Pocket size fountain pens - yay 👍🏻 or nay 👎🏻
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The topic of "Pocket size fountain pens" is been overlooked for too long on our channel, here is a little taste of what are my thoughts on this topic and what are my plans. I would love to have your thoughts on everything in the comment section.
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Ben Walsh is a genius! All the time he is working on innovation. And that nib is stupendous!
:D he is truly a maverick , cant wait to get a taste of his proprietary gold nibs that he designed and manufactured himself with a producer of nibs outside of Bock/Jowo that is what most of the pens from today come equipped with
Hi Emy. Thanks again for this great video. I love Gravitas Pens. I do own the Sentry in Raw Copper, the Pocket "Skull" in Brass and the Quark UP in Zirconium which is an amazing pocket pen -extremely small but full size when posted. I bought it at the Dutch Pen Show in Utrecht this year from Ben Walsh. He is an amazing guy - so nice!
hehe :D thank you :D Those raw pens are so appealing ... cant wait to see how a copper would behave and age :D
Congratulations Emy and Ben on your partnership!
A few months ago I bought a Gravitas, the Ultemate Vac. Ben used his unique combination of engineering and design is nothing short of amazing.
I do love pocket pens for all the reasons you mention, Emy. I do not yet own a Gravitas pocket pen but am very happy with my ensso titanium. Gravitas also makes many models from Ti and that's exciting to see. It's my favorite material for pens, especially ones that live in a pocket rattling around with other things all day.
Thank you so so much David :D
We are in the process of launching the Ultimate Vac on our website, been testing a pair of them for the past 2 months, brilliant pen, very resilient and I would like to make a video to compare it to the 823 :D
Cant wait to show you our line up of pocket pens... and maybe its time to make a color and finish exclusive to PV from gravitas
In my EDC fountain pens there are always 2 Pocket pens ( 2 Montblanc Boheme ( Black Roby and the Doué Ligne) ). And I love them and use them at meetings at work. But also when I am writing at home. I also have the Kaweco Al Sport, Liliput and the Supra. I use them not often but the Montblanc Boheme are always with me. Greetings from the Netherlands.
:D those fund MB pens with the retractable nib ? on the go you must have something more practical more "disposable" because lets be serious, in use these pocket pens sometime take a dive or we just cant keep them 100% safe :D Greetings from Romania :D
@@pen.ventureI agree but the beauty of the fountain pen is that there is one for everyone. I carry them in a pen pouch. And knock on wood I never dropped a fountain pen. But if it will fall it is to bad but that will not make me use them as pocket pen. I get more pleasure using them. Love you channel keep up the great job.
As long as it is able to be posted so that when it is in use it is normal size I love them. The pen can be with me at all times. It is the "grab and go" pen. Pens like the Kaweco Liliput or the Pilot e95 just speak to me "carry me everywhere, I am ready when you need me". The Schon Design Pocket Ultem is light and indestructible is another favorite. The Gravitas looks nice as well. Great post!
Yes that is the whole point that a small pen when you carry it ... becomes a normal size pen when its posted for writing :D Its one of those things that its like I take my wallet / my pocket knife and this has become my 3rd option of EDC
I use pocket pens. My favorite is my Kaweco Bronze. It is heavy enough that I know it’s in my purse. I have a n aluminum Lilliput, which writes beautifulLY, but it is too lightweight, and it has no rollstop. I also have a Japanese Traveler. That one is brass, and it’s also a lovely pen. With clip. It’s great, too.
That is awesome! Pocket pens are wonderful in use and in the whole practicality aspect
I am so glad Gravitas teamed up with you. I love his products, but ...he is not responsive with questions or issues that kept me from purchasing again. For this reason, I am super happy he has chosen you as a retailer. 😊😊
Thank you so much for the insight :D Ben is a brilliant person and im sure in this partnership we can put our work into covering all those weak links in this chain and make it so ... Gravitas has good points no matter how you look at it :D
@pen.venture have you received Gravitas pens yet? Let us know so we can purchase from you.
@@pen.venture So you sell Gravitas? I heard there were issues with getting pens sent to people who paid for them-perhaps he was overwhelmed with a world-wide market, and you’ve perhaps solved those issues for him? If so, YES PLEASE! I would love to own a Gravitas pen! Please let us know when you have them on hand!
@@kjmav10135 we sell Gravitas at this moment, from stock - meaning any displayed pen we do have physical in our inventory and its getting processed and shipped in 24h - yes Gravitas its been processing orders with delays due to high volume but we are aiming to offer our fulfilment system and team to processing their orders on a new platform that we currently build for them. At this moment the gravitas.com website is not taking any orders - its just processing anything from past and sometime around mid-end August we plan to switch the domain on the new website and with the stock in reach to fulfil their orders. Till then you can get Gravitas items from Pen Venture
@@pen.venture I know he is an excellent pen maker and was no doubt experiencing growing pains due to the excellence of his product and the sudden demand for it. Sounds like things are getting better for him and for you! Glad to hear it. I’ll be checking in at Pen Venture. Thank you.
Despite the fact that I crave big and oversized pens (At least in the future, I have none right now) pocket fountain pens are amazing.
- Biochemistry Student
- So a lot of time is spent at the clinical lab
- My pocket pen is made out of Ultem plastic (Thanks Schon DSGN)
- No worries if I spill blood or chemicals on it, and it is easy to clean
- Also fits my small pocket perfectly and allows me to take notes or sign stuff faster
I can't remark enough the fact that the plastic is amazing because if I drop blood or any other potentially pathological fluid on it, I can pretty much dip it in bleach to prevent any further contamination / clean it up
It is very interesting to see how different all of us are using their pens ... really happy to open up to a different type of a pen (at least to what we have now on our website) - I really enjoy the easy to carry factor of these and how robust are vs a very fancy pen that I like to collect and use as well ... but im limited to a degree since is so expensive and relative fragile vs a gravitas pen
I love pocket pens. Currently have several Kaweco Sport and Traveller's Brass fountain pen. Do not like how brass makes my hands stink. However the Gravitas pocket pens are looking way better, with #6 size nibs.
That is awesome! One of the key aspects in our interest for Gravitas items was only because of the fact that for a short pocket pen - you get the size 6 steel nib
12:45 I heard that pens with metal parts should not be eyedroppered because the inks could cause corrosion. However, Gravitas pocket Ultem and Quart appear to have metal nib sections.
think logic... if a metal pen is not allowed to be eyedropper converted - how come a pen with a metal (not gold) suppose to work being submerged and always in contact with ink ?
Let me give what I know from experience - this rule with inks being corrosive it has to do with vintage times where iron gall inks where very corrosive and very permanent while being in use with cheap steel nibs, in our days we are having less use if not none iron gall inks and modern coatings like rhodium plating, ruthenium and may others that simply protect the nib from the corrosive nature of inks that are not iron gall. While Im not a huge fan of eyedropper conversion other than when it comes from ebonite pens that are meant to be eyedropper like the Emperor / Danitrio and many others... im not a huge fan because of how temperamental they get in use, but as far as pens of ben made from stainless steel and aluminium with good quality coatings... you can go to town and eyedropper convert all of them, it may work a bit inconsistent (sometime wet, sometime dry ... sometime just perfect and sometime not at all) but ill be safe to eyedropper convert them
@@pen.venture thanks, good point.
Kaweco are very comfortable but ink capacity is effectively an issue, I tried using it at uni, first with a converter (which lasted exactly 2 hours before needing a refill) and then with cartridges (one cartridge got me through a day, two on a slow one with little notetaking), this pen will leave you hanging when you need it most.
The piston version was a very decent alternative but the price was excessive, especially when there is so much competition for half of it, heard Kaweco is planning more piston models, if they manage to keep it in the 40-60 euros price range, it might be an hit.
Yes pocket pens have this small ink volume that they come with them - there are ways to make up more ink volume but most of the times it involves eyedropper conversions
@@pen.venture There are pocket piston pens like the Twsbi mini and the Pelikan m200 that hold 1.3ml of ink, that is a pretty respectable amount even for a full size pen, I guess that there isn't much of a market for them, a shame because pocket pens are my favorites.
I absolutely love pocket pens! In particular, I am collecting pens shorter than 120mm capped with #6 nibs. They open a whole new world of pens and writing. As it happens, my favourite pen of all is one of my Kaweco Sports.
That is awesome! :D I started to enjoy them more and more lately :D and when I seen the gravitas small things with a size 6 nib ... I took it as a sign :))
Despite my disappointment with my Ultemate Vac, I have been looking at the Gravitas pocket pen in titanium (my favourite metal, and currently out of stock). However, one thing concerns me is that reviews say posting this pocket pen will mark the body as the cap will be metal on metal.
Well - in this case you can go with titanium because I'll be the one more resistant to this marks that develop. Anyway I can tell you from experience with my stainless steel one, its not as evident as it may sound, while being carried the pen itself gets scratched and scuffed all over, at least mine did and how I use it, so it would not look any different if it would be not touched by the cap... when you hear it or see it being mentioned "metal on metal" it sounds actually serious but in person its not that relevant, the inner part of the cap is machined to a even finish and the threads are further in the cap so its not that relevant
@@pen.venture thanks for the clarification.
Hello Emy,
Thank you for another great video. Like you, my pocket pens are in a category of their own. They can’t compare to my very high end fountain pens, but what they might lack in some department they make up in practicality and functionality so definitly a YAY!
I only use my pocket pens when I am on the go. It means that my pocket pens need to be able to address multiple scenarios and be a all in one kind of pen. I use them from journaling to signatures whenever required and they serve as a backup pen when I am at the office if I run out of ink.
I mostly revolve around the Kaweco realm, owning an AL Sport raw in medium, a fireblue Supra in Fine (with the middle section removed) and a 1970 vintage Sport with a 14k Fine, but I also have a Pilot E95s in Fine.
As a general rule, I don’t like to post my pens and since it is a must when it comes to pocket pens, I definitely prefer friction cap to screw cap. Screw caps take longer to post/unpost, you can mess up the threads and the metal ones often squeal.
Considering all that, I need my pocket pens to be very reliable, robust, inktight and relatively affordable if the worst should happens and I lose it somewhere. Once, I forgot my AL Sport in my jeans pocket when doing the laundry. The seal is so well made that apart from the nib hosing ink inside the cap during the cycle, nothing got stained and I ended up with a super clean pen ;-).
As you said, the roll stop is very important on those pens. I did purchase the optional clips for my modern days Kawecos, but in the end they don’t really add much to the pen except unnecessary volume and weight. The Supra being a round pen I dare not remove the clip for fear of an accident.
I am looking forward to see what that new collaboration with Gravitas will bring!!!!
:D thank you for the feedback :D cant wait to get the second parcel delivered from Gravitas and start working on these to be put in the market :D
Just came across your channel for the first time. Thanks for this video and nice display of Gravitas pocket pens. I like the flex nib. You don’t see that very often on a pocket pen.
For me a fountain pen needs to be a good sturdy and practical work horse that comforts in writing. They may look used.
For over 10 years I used an Ohto Tasche but that has become too slim for me.
I have a Kaweco sport AL Raw, a couple of Opus 88 Fantasia with great ink capacity and a TWSBI mini.
A size 6 nib is not a must have on a pocket pen for me.
Being work horses in an industrial environment I don’t tend to spend too much on the pens either. €100 would be to steep for me.
:D not only that flex nibs are not that comun on pocket pens - but size 6 nibs on pocket pens is super super rare :D
I think that 100 mark price point is one where at Gravitas there is a lot of value in what they offer - thank you for the feedback :D
I have a couple of SCHON DSGN Pocket 6 and a Kaweco Liliput. They all write wonderfully, with juicy broad nibs! I love them!
Thanks for sharing! It is wonderful to know that pocket pens are so popular :D
I'm very fond of the Kaweco Sport pocket pens. I have two and would happily buy more.
that is wonderful to see that pocket pens have such a crowd of ppl :D cant wait to have them on our website :D
This is great news and is bound to be a very successful partnership, Emy. I have one Gravitas -a Sentry and really like it. I do have my eye on a some additional models someday, including a pocket something or other. I have an AL Sport that I use a lot when traveling or just going out to some place where I may need to sign something (like you do). I have two Pilot pockets, an Elite 95 and a Prera. The Elite 95 is very nice; the Prera is just a nice, cheap small, pen, but both of them, like the Kaweco, never dry out and are always ready when I need them (unless they're out of ink!). :) I could let the Prera go, but I'm keeping the E95 and the AL Sport.
Thank you Scot :D how are you my dear friend ? - looking forward to start this partnership and we are for sure close to start. I heard so many good things about the E95 that is a very close scenario like the custom823 that again I wanted it after hearing so many good feedback about it :D - we need to see it in person
Just bought a Kaweco Brass Sport. 👍
I love Kaweko pens and have a quite a few including both plastic and metal versions. I also love my Liliput pen for my travelers passport journal which brings me to the other pen I like which is the pocket sized brass Traveler's pen. I have been eyeing off Gravitas pens for a while but had to save up for Leonardo's and Visconti pens as well as Pilot (which includes both colors of the e95s - also pocket sized pens with gorgeous nibs). I'm now really looking forward to the partnership between Ben and yourself. A special limited edition Gravitas/Pen Venture model with your logo and number on it would be awesome! Count me in!
:D thank you for the feedback :D For me is very important to have a better view point on these pens since we decided to stand behind such a brand and type of a pen, not only as content but to invest and to facilitate their launch on our platform :D We already talk about having a PV gravitas edition.... soon soon :D
I haven’t developed any feeling for a pocket sized fountain pen yet. I am trying to. Unfortunately I didn’t order the one I’m waiting for from you. I ordered from the company. If I’d have ordered from you instead of that company I might have it already. But there was another pen I wanted to order with it and you don’t have it on your site. I don’t want a Koweco. If so I could get that locally.
well... as soon as you get them start to digest and see how cool is to have one of these pocket rockets everywhere with you and how convenient is this.
Warning: My comment has become outrageously long; SORRY
There are coincidences...
I came across your YT channel because I was very hesitant about converting my POCKET PEN. When I bought my first pocket pen through a Kickstarter campaign, I felt about the same as you did here (at least that's how I interpret it): I was thrilled! I especially like the fact that all sorts of pockets are different from many other fountain pens. From my perspective, it makes them unique. I consider them exclusive, even though I can't afford the luxurious, exclusive writing instruments. I really like the Namisu company.
The story of Namisu seems to me to be the exact opposite of the story of Gravitas. Instead of Ireland they produce in Scotland. I've been to both countries and Ireland can be compared to Scotland in terms of landscape. They also speak a Celtic language in both countries, which I like...
As far as I know, Namisu writing instruments were created by machine operators who initially (my personal opinion) didn't have that much design or rather a rough design in the form of a metal tube.
Why not, metal fountain pens are always somehow metal tubes. Or?
The design of the N1 really appealed to me. At first I was a little skeptical as to whether posting with the O-rings wouldn't lead to a wear problem over time. So far this has never been a problem and it always closes very reliably like it did in the beginning. They no longer produce the N1, but the N2 was brought onto the market. The only difference between the N1 and the N2 is that the N2 writes with a size 6 Bock nib. In contrast to the N1, which requires a size 5 nib. At best you can also use a size 6 there.
They also work with a small converter; The one for the Kaweco Sport.
Since I am so impressed with the pocket size pens, I couldn't hold back and absolutely had to buy the Namisu Nova Pocket. In terms of design, it is very similar to the Gravitas. Almost too much.... It has a screw mechanism for posting. I almost fell in love with this one, it's so beautiful... I have it in Titanium with the Petrol finish. As an option I have a size 6 Bock spring, also made of titanium.
What I really like about both Namisu Pockets: It doesn't always make sense to use a fountain pen. I've also heard that fountain pens are not very popular at work, for example for taking notes for a protocol. The N1, N2 and the Nova Pocket can be converted into a ballpoint. To do this, simply unscrew the front tip and purchase the associated accessories. This means I can also use my fountain pens as a ballpoint and there is no need to change cartridges.
I am completely convinced of the Nova Pocket and that's why a Gravitas also has a hard time with me. Although after visiting the homepage I almost fell into the state of being unable to resist anyway...
The only criticism I have with the Nova Pocket is the fact that the small Kaweco converter doesn't fit either because it is too long. Only a small cartridge remains. Or a conversion as an eyedropper. As mentioned, I'm still a little hesitant because the space available for the ink isn't really that big, even as an eyedropper. I imagine refilling would be inconvenient. This despite the fact that I am absolutely not afraid of inky fingers.
Pocket pens are great tools regardless how one is judging them - btw :D no problem at all with a long comment :)) after all - we are here to talk pens
We love pocket pens, they come with some advantages and disadvantages but in the end - the sheer joy of having something small everywhere with you, inked and ready to go - is weighing more than having it writing for 10 pages + / so like with all things in life - its about trades, you trade the ink volume for the portability aspect.
@@pen.venture I just realised a important fact in regards of pen owners. A luxury fountain pen is meant for a duration of „rest-of-life-long“. No need of another fountain pen, no need to change after a certain while.
I’m more the owner who collects pens throughout different brands. No problem to change them, no problem to carry them. My personal aim is it to own pens who are different from each other. In this area a capless or a pocket or a eyedropper-piston (idk if „piston“ is the correct English word, but you probably know what I mean), are different from „only“ different in materials and design. It gives them a certain „one more“ feature in need to jump into all pen collections.
BUT it’s all about money. The price tag is in need to be let’s say under EUR 200. That’s another market and I would pretend it’s an exiting market with a lot of room for new creations.
Hi, nice video, thanks ! KAWECO Sport is a nice and handy pocket pen especially the AL line. I'd never use a plastic one as an EDC. However in my view the Sport is a sub-optimal design. If the body was cc 15 mm longer than it could accommodate the long, double capacity cartridges from Pelikan/Herbin/Online, and it would be also way more comfortable to use unposted. The size increase from 105mm to 120mm doesn't matter in my pocket/bag. I think if size really matters than the KAWECO Lilliput line is a better choice.
I never used Gravitas, but from the video I think it is very similar to KAWECO, so the same notes apply.
Maybe I'm too utilitarian on the go, but I don't need size 6 flex nib in an EDC. I rarely sign documents, but when I do I use ballpoint pen due to the durability of the ink. The same for postcards. On the go I mostly write into my own spiral notebook and I prefer if the pen or mech. pencil can be inserted into the spiral.
Of course in the office I can afford and demand more comfort/luxury but that area is above the compromised EDC world :)
Thank you so much :D Gravitas is a pocket pen focused line also with a focus on quality of the materials and the manufacturing of them into finite products that offers a very diverse array of colors / materials and why not - shapes as well.
Excellent news Emy! I was looking to buy a Quark from Gravitas, but I'll wait a bit for you to get them. I like a lot pocket pens and I've been using, for the last 4 years, an Ohto Tasche. Some times, I switch it for a Filcao Mini.
Do you think the Ultem version will stand everyday use inside a pocket with a couple of keys?
Thank you so much :D - the parcel with the pocket pens are traveling already towards us - the ultem and the clear vacs are in stock already, after testing the ultem for the past 2 weeks I think it will survive, although it will look a bit scratched and "MadMax"-ed ... it will hold and have personality
@@pen.venture thanks for your help! The ultem really is something...
Pilot E(lite)95S is also very exquisite pocket fountain pen. I bought one a week ago.
this is the 3rd or 4th time hearing this so ... I take notes and we need to get one of those and to see how it is, since we have pilot pens on our website, maybe is time to add it to our line up :D
Yes, the Pilot Elite is the OG pocket pen (I had one at school in the 70s). The E95S pens are a worthy update, and the nibs are brilliant. The E95S F nib has a very similar feel to the SF Custom 74. The old Pilot MYUs are worth looking out for on the vintage market, too. They’re nails, though very smooth with it.
18:24 wow this Flex nib is gushing ink when writing too fast.
Yup it does - comes with some downsides in that if you shake the pen it has ink droplets making their way in the cap but with such a nib/feeder you cannot have them all in one
Ben is a genius BUT he is a mess at the same time when it comes to delivery and replacements. I love his products but hate to wait for them. As quick as he answers customer requests by social media as slow he sends stuff around within Europa. I am very much looking forward that your will be taking care of his logistics. I bill be able to be buy more stuff from his workshops than.
:D being a genius comes with its pros and cons :D nevertheless I think if we team up, pen venture can offer a very stable and quick to act platform when it comes to gravitas being sold to everyone, this way Ben can focus on making the very best pens and the most crazy designed ever :D
I agree by 200%. I guess he passed the phase of starting a one man business and needs logistics. I am quite sure that he will come up with even more innovative stuff as soon he doesn‘t have to spend his time by printing labels and preparing packaging
I wish you guess all the best and a great success
@@pen.venture i will order my gravitas pens from you since the last pen i got from gravitas was 8 weeks between website experience and delivery. can't complain,though: love love love the pens, and ben's vibe :) FAST GOOD CHEAP pick two
Hi!
Is there a clip that fits the gravitas model quark pocket pen up ultem?
there is no clips on any Gravitas pen available
What is the ink you used in the Quark? It's very pretty!
hmmmm in the clear quark it was poppy red form Diamine, in the metal one I had a cartridge with Writers blood from Diamine :D
@@pen.venture Thanks! I like Diamine inks and should try Poppy Red, definitely.
...any link to EU-based reseller of gravitaspens ?? Best Martin
Yes - our store www.pen-venture.com