This is great and all But companies need to follow Suit with the offroad capabilities of the Tern orox cargo. We can all agree tho that the tern orox could be made much cheaper I the $2000.00 range with a longer rack like the rad wagon 4. Also a bike like this that has 100 miles range should be capable of throttle only like the anokii A8 and similar Walkee long range bikes. I believe it only makes sense to sell folding 100 watt solar pannels with a efficient mppt charger included to keep charged while camping. Thiers over 1000 videos of people charging with pannels and mppt controller. If you haven't checked out the capabilites of the Tern Orox take the time to watch the videos off its offroad capabilities range and massive weight and storage capacities. I believe all ebike channels need to start speaking about this as it wouldn't take long to manifest the ultimate offroad all terrain adventure cargo bike for around $2000 - $3000 Every company needs to start making what the Tern Orax is capable of but better and cheaper! Also fat tires for beach sand is a must! Campers and off trail riders will love those who makes these for eternity! Lets go!!!! 😊
The Arctic Leopard in the background is a 37Kw beast with a bigger battery than the Varg. But comparing a $14k full sized dirt bike to the SS is apples to oranges.
I'd say it offers more than a Sur Ron out of the box. Idk why so many people fan boy Sur Ron. Not a company that has ever supported its customers or listened to them.
@72voltZ1 For starters I've worked with PDS suspensions on dirt bikes for many years. A lot of reasons why they are better or worse but the truth is most riders never notice. We've also beat the hell out of the Mantis single pivot and I find it's held up and been better than most of these ebike things. The E Ride Pro is far stiffer and built for adult weight over the light bee x.
@@pharettface I’ll lay it out for you and anybody looking. The only benefit is cost. A single pivot dirt bike suspension system is considered less ideal compared to modern designs like linkage suspensions for a few reasons: Suspension Performance: Single pivot designs tend to have limitations in terms of suspension performance, especially when it comes to controlling squat and dive under braking and acceleration. This can affect the overall handling and comfort of the bike. Progressivity: Single pivot suspensions often lack the progressive feel that riders desire. Progressive suspension helps the bike handle bigger hits and impacts more effectively. Tuning Flexibility: With single pivot designs, it can be more challenging to fine-tune the suspension to suit different riding styles and terrain. Linkage suspensions offer more adjustability in this regard. Brake Jack: Single pivot designs may suffer from a phenomenon known as "brake jack," where braking forces can affect the suspension's ability to function optimally. This can lead to a harsh ride experience. Anti-Squat and Pedal Feedback: Single pivot designs may not offer as efficient anti-squat characteristics, affecting pedal feedback and traction under acceleration. While single pivot suspensions can still perform adequately, modern dirt bikes often utilize more advanced suspension designs like linkage systems to provide better overall performance, tunability, and control over various riding conditions. Working with and riding are 2 different things. If you worked on real dirt bikes you wouldn’t be riding this piece of crap. No offense.
Infinitely not so much. I've worked on several Surrons at our shop with failed just about everything at some point. E ride Pro SS is new, there will be growing pains. However their customer service has be awesome and they go above what we expected as a dealer to fix issues. It's not a matter if stuff has issues, I have 13k Beta Dirt bikes that come with defects, it's how a company fixes those issues and treats customers. Surron has no customer service beyond dealers. If your friend would like to reach out to us A&M Moto Toys and work on getting some replacement parts I'd be happy to help.
What an infinitely goofy comment. As a rule of thumb, you don’t make a definitive conclusion when considering anything if it’s based only on a single person’s experience. If there were 1000 Pro SS’s sold that month, and your friend’s was the only to have an issue, would that make it “infinitely” less reliable…? Need more data.
@@aaronscheuman Take it easy ashki. It’s pretty simple, a product that’s been out and tested for 7 years is gonna be more reliable than a new one. Also there already plenty of posts on the forum about people having electric issues with the eride pro never seen that with the surron or even talaria
Is it crazy that they cost over 8 grand here in canada might as well just get a dirt bike for half the cost
Sounds like you need yo take a trip to Colorado to get one from us haha
@@pharettface it still will cost almost double for me to convert canadian dollars to usd 🥲
This is great and all But companies need to follow Suit with the offroad capabilities of the Tern orox cargo. We can all agree tho that the tern orox could be made much cheaper I the $2000.00 range with a longer rack like the rad wagon 4. Also a bike like this that has 100 miles range should be capable of throttle only like the anokii A8 and similar Walkee long range bikes. I believe it only makes sense to sell folding 100 watt solar pannels with a efficient mppt charger included to keep charged while camping. Thiers over 1000 videos of people charging with pannels and mppt controller. If you haven't checked out the capabilites of the Tern Orox take the time to watch the videos off its offroad capabilities range and massive weight and storage capacities. I believe all ebike channels need to start speaking about this as it wouldn't take long to manifest the ultimate offroad all terrain adventure cargo bike for around $2000 - $3000 Every company needs to start making what the Tern Orax is capable of but better and cheaper! Also fat tires for beach sand is a must! Campers and off trail riders will love those who makes these for eternity! Lets go!!!! 😊
Eride absolutely destroys the Tern in every category lmao
@@googlestoleyoutube SO the evidence had a offroad cargo bike? That's what I need. Link the bike.
Two totally different bikes for different uses.
try the stark varg hahahaha
The Arctic Leopard in the background is a 37Kw beast with a bigger battery than the Varg. But comparing a $14k full sized dirt bike to the SS is apples to oranges.
You are comparing a 13k bike to a 5k bike... 🤦♂
This bike keeps getting promoted but it’s a terrible bike and a rip off. I’d take a stock Surron over 2 of these.
I'd say it offers more than a Sur Ron out of the box. Idk why so many people fan boy Sur Ron. Not a company that has ever supported its customers or listened to them.
@@pharettface because it doesn’t have a shitty rear suspension. Look into the drawbacks of a single pivot rear suspension.
@72voltZ1 For starters I've worked with PDS suspensions on dirt bikes for many years. A lot of reasons why they are better or worse but the truth is most riders never notice. We've also beat the hell out of the Mantis single pivot and I find it's held up and been better than most of these ebike things. The E Ride Pro is far stiffer and built for adult weight over the light bee x.
@@pharettface I’ll lay it out for you and anybody looking. The only benefit is cost. A single pivot dirt bike suspension system is considered less ideal compared to modern designs like linkage suspensions for a few reasons:
Suspension Performance: Single pivot designs tend to have limitations in terms of suspension performance, especially when it comes to controlling squat and dive under braking and acceleration. This can affect the overall handling and comfort of the bike.
Progressivity: Single pivot suspensions often lack the progressive feel that riders desire. Progressive suspension helps the bike handle bigger hits and impacts more effectively.
Tuning Flexibility: With single pivot designs, it can be more challenging to fine-tune the suspension to suit different riding styles and terrain. Linkage suspensions offer more adjustability in this regard.
Brake Jack: Single pivot designs may suffer from a phenomenon known as "brake jack," where braking forces can affect the suspension's ability to function optimally. This can lead to a harsh ride experience.
Anti-Squat and Pedal Feedback: Single pivot designs may not offer as efficient anti-squat characteristics, affecting pedal feedback and traction under acceleration.
While single pivot suspensions can still perform adequately, modern dirt bikes often utilize more advanced suspension designs like linkage systems to provide better overall performance, tunability, and control over various riding conditions. Working with and riding are 2 different things. If you worked on real dirt bikes you wouldn’t be riding this piece of crap. No offense.
I love me Eride pro SS and I’m extremely satisfied with my purchase! To each it’s own but Eride doing it’s thing
Surron has been out since 2017 and is infinitely more reliable than an eride pro ss. My friend plug melted 200 miles in
Infinitely not so much. I've worked on several Surrons at our shop with failed just about everything at some point. E ride Pro SS is new, there will be growing pains. However their customer service has be awesome and they go above what we expected as a dealer to fix issues. It's not a matter if stuff has issues, I have 13k Beta Dirt bikes that come with defects, it's how a company fixes those issues and treats customers. Surron has no customer service beyond dealers. If your friend would like to reach out to us A&M Moto Toys and work on getting some replacement parts I'd be happy to help.
What an infinitely goofy comment. As a rule of thumb, you don’t make a definitive conclusion when considering anything if it’s based only on a single person’s experience. If there were 1000 Pro SS’s sold that month, and your friend’s was the only to have an issue, would that make it “infinitely” less reliable…? Need more data.
@@aaronscheuman Take it easy ashki. It’s pretty simple, a product that’s been out and tested for 7 years is gonna be more reliable than a new one. Also there already plenty of posts on the forum about people having electric issues with the eride pro never seen that with the surron or even talaria