The Weakening Imperial State | Setting the Stage (UPDATED) Episode 2

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

Комментарии • 48

  • @mikeddh2018
    @mikeddh2018 Месяц назад +32

    It's funny... I was thinking about revisiting your videos from the beginning then this showed up in my notifications. I admit that I do miss the old intro music, but I understand why the change was made.

    • @TheShogunate
      @TheShogunate  Месяц назад +18

      I will always keep that the theme of the Sengoku Jidai series!

    • @teuton215
      @teuton215 12 дней назад

      Why was it changed? But I'm in the same boat I was revisiting all the old series

  • @LuisLopez-zh9kh
    @LuisLopez-zh9kh Месяц назад +10

    Really brings into question many of our previously established concepts of what a "Samurai" was in those early days.

  • @kilday33
    @kilday33 21 день назад +1

    What a treat , I went back to listen to the whole series again and now it’s the special edition!

  • @darkmattergamesofficial
    @darkmattergamesofficial Месяц назад +16

    Wake up everyone, here we go!

  • @TalesofDawnandDusk
    @TalesofDawnandDusk Месяц назад +6

    If I didn't know any better, I'd say we timed this to coincide with me finishing up the section of folktales centering on warriors from the early and middle Heian Period, including the story of Taira no Masakado. What serendipity.
    I am gonna respectfully offer a bit of pushback on the phrase "all samurai were bushi." In the Heian period, there were people who were "samurai" that had nothing to do with the warriors. There are a few instances of such people occurring in The Tale of Genji and I've run into non warrior "samurai," aka, servants to the aristocracy, on a few occasions in the Konjaku Monogatari Shu, though ultimately it all comes back to the larger point you were making where the term has a complicated history and is hard to pin down.
    Great video by the way. Always a treat to hear from you.

  • @darkmattergamesofficial
    @darkmattergamesofficial Месяц назад +7

    Great production value with the effects, images, and music. This is awesome!

  • @dcanedemboyz7431
    @dcanedemboyz7431 Месяц назад +14

    The Shogunate, Ultimate Edition

    • @momopolo
      @momopolo Месяц назад +3

      DLC incoming

    • @dcanedemboyz7431
      @dcanedemboyz7431 Месяц назад +4

      @@momopolo Master Collection when?

    • @deiansalazar140
      @deiansalazar140 Месяц назад

      ​@@dcanedemboyz7431Plus a remake with a expansion pack and customization of scenarios.
      (plz ROTK8 remake)

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for the revisit, the long preamble to the Samurai era and it's first half before the Sengoku Jidai are my favourite time periods to follow. Not to be different as all Japanese history is fascinating, I've just always been as interested in the cause as the eventual effect.

  • @sukitron5415
    @sukitron5415 Месяц назад +7

    If you ever plan on using Nobunaga's ambition portraits in these remake videos, there are some unlockablr officers like Minamoto no Yoshitsune and Hojo Soun

  • @samweirich5973
    @samweirich5973 Месяц назад +3

    Absolutely love the work you do on this channel. Please keep it up.

  • @Moonslayer01
    @Moonslayer01 Месяц назад +2

    I love the history of Japan, i was always interested in it and been a fan of your videos. Keep up the great content.

  • @jedisith85
    @jedisith85 Месяц назад

    Thank you! I’ve been waiting for this! 👍

  • @ahumpierrogue137
    @ahumpierrogue137 Месяц назад

    Not sure how detailed you plan on making this series, but I hope you go into more detail with the Nanboku-cho period in this series. It was covered a bit shortly IMO in your og series. Either way, awesome vid!

  • @jimross7648
    @jimross7648 Месяц назад +2

    This seems to be the most Japanese of traits. Learn to do something well, then modify it slightly over a period of time, until something new emerges. Then give it a different name, and ascribing traits of previous groups to this newly named entity. A very interesting video.

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for the video

  • @momopolo
    @momopolo Месяц назад +4

    Been your fan since the first season of warring states, but slacking on some of the recent vids🥹
    Just started watching shogun, and been rewatching everything, this great quality needs time, so I'm so happy you putting such effort to rediscuss this fascinating part before the civil war. All love and support from Austria!!

  • @jonathanvillanueva9206
    @jonathanvillanueva9206 Месяц назад

    He's back!

  • @NintendanGX
    @NintendanGX Месяц назад

    A lot of natural disasters were said to have occured while Masakado's head was on display, which prompted a change in how the warrior class handled the heads of their enemy from that moment on. Masakado's head was buried in an attempt to appease his soul, and it's said when finally put to rest, the disasters lessened. He'd then become reveared as an earth-god who protected the land, hence why we see some depictions of him as a giant earthy spirit or holy warrior.
    Apparently when his gravesite was bulldozed after WWII, disaster befell all involved, further discouraging people from messing with the place and tempting the supserstition any further.

  • @Ren_Brands
    @Ren_Brands Месяц назад

    Great Video.

  • @kevindong9999
    @kevindong9999 Месяц назад

    Excited for this retread, I do want to know about the books you use for sources. Are they new research?

  • @siomaireice
    @siomaireice Месяц назад

    i love your vids vro..❤

  • @FinnishDragon
    @FinnishDragon Месяц назад +2

    It sounds like Taira no Masakado was the Japanese version of Chinese warlord Yuan Shu who established the short-lived Zhong dynasty during the very late years of the Han dynasty in China. It seems to be that history is rhyming in this matter.

    • @sukitron5415
      @sukitron5415 Месяц назад

      Masakado never wanted to rebel and overthrow the Emperor like Yuan Shu though, he simply wanted to rule over Kanto independently but still under the Imperial government

    • @deiansalazar140
      @deiansalazar140 Месяц назад

      ​@@sukitron5415 But he declared himself Emperor.

    • @deiansalazar140
      @deiansalazar140 Месяц назад

      That said I think that comparing Taira no Masakado to Yuan Shu is highly reductionist and ultimately not a good idea as each had vastly different effects on each other's nations.

    • @james-97209
      @james-97209 Месяц назад

      I think based on his actions he is more comparable to Ma teng and han sui than yuan shu

  • @yomuzel
    @yomuzel Месяц назад +4

    Is this remake going to be 7 episodes as well?

    • @TheShogunate
      @TheShogunate  Месяц назад +2

      Most likely but there might be wiggle room

    • @yomuzel
      @yomuzel Месяц назад

      @@TheShogunate good to know, I appreciate the super quick reply!

  • @iivin4233
    @iivin4233 Месяц назад

    I'm a little unclear on what those early power gathering efforts and later fights would have looked like in a practical sense. Is it lawfare? Warfare? Both?
    I can picture the literal steps that might have been taken in the coup that happens at the end of this episode.

  • @ryanwingfield6092
    @ryanwingfield6092 Месяц назад

    Great video as always, but I do have a question: have you ever considered learning Japanese? I know its a massive commitment, but I feel like your videos would be greatly enriched if you also had access to Japanese sources.

  • @koicc1192
    @koicc1192 9 дней назад

    It's more curious when Minamoto and Taira clans were descendents of Imperial family

  • @joaomanoel3197
    @joaomanoel3197 Месяц назад +2

    Top

  • @5555petros
    @5555petros Месяц назад

    A bit OT, but what were the sources that the Ritsuryou armies were quite effective against the Emishi and it wasn't the mounted archer curbstorm that until recent history was saying?

    • @TheShogunate
      @TheShogunate  Месяц назад +1

      Karl Friday discuss this is most of his books about early Japanese warriors

    • @5555petros
      @5555petros Месяц назад

      @@TheShogunate Thanks for answering, I'll check it out.

  • @jimmyzbike
    @jimmyzbike Месяц назад

    apologies for just getting to this

  • @Sungseon
    @Sungseon Месяц назад

    what is the difference between udpated version and original version

    • @TheShogunate
      @TheShogunate  Месяц назад

      Quite a lot! Check out the original if you want to see. It is still up on the channel.

  • @deiansalazar140
    @deiansalazar140 Месяц назад +1

    So you're telling me that American Private Security Companies can be technically considered American Samurai and could take over the government 😂

    • @pradyumn2692
      @pradyumn2692 Месяц назад

      American Shogun Season 1, episode 1

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview Месяц назад

    The opening song sounds like Batman 😂madness try to become emperor like Chinese usurpers. No wonder they only became shogun rather than emperor. 😊