Does your horse accept the bit? Teddy and "Jeremiah of the Paisley Desert" a 4 year old BLM Mustang demo how to introduce the bit in a way that is palatable.
It’s less cumbersome or likely to get caught on stuff. Horses at this stage are somewhat irresponsible with their heads and this keeps them out of trouble while they learn while they learn to pack a bit.
I have a question, I’m a young and lightweight female and while I am strong I can be thrown around easily when my horses throw fits. I almost never fall off but it happens to everyone if you ride horses enough. I don’t know if I could handle a full on bucking session from my girl (12yr old wild horse) and if I couldn’t I would hate to teach her that bucking will stop the ride whenever she wants. So would it be a good idea to put a weight in the stirrup and possibly saddle to get her used to that feeling before I personally get on her?
@@Deej496 Oh yes! I know that, I just use break as the general term. The way I put it is “Breaking the bad habits” but never ever breaking their spirit and body
@@LiveEquestrian1 and FWIW if I had put up enough hay for a 4th horse this year I would be buying him at this auction but hay was in short supply over here this year so unfortunately I can't buy any more horses this year.
A lot of people do that, and I have done that as well. Since the bitting rig is thin, it can be done at the same time as riding in a halter so they are better prepared for the bit. I personally prefer to start horses in the jaquima over the halter because it is a more precise tool with a specific release point, and nerve knots designed to work against the infraorbital nerve rather than kind of slide around the face.
@@LiveEquestrian1 I find I can give precise cues through the knots with subtle movement from the reins. Of course this assumes the rope halter fits well and the reins have good feel, like good quality sail line.
Not sure I follow the logic in that. Lots more moving pieces and potential issues with a gag. The likelihood of a tooth chipping is almost zero in this, but even if it did it would be on a premolar that is constantly growing so probably not an issue.
That's *HORRIBLE* leaving the horse for that f'ing long. 6 hours is ridiculous. Do it in small sessions at a time over the course of a few WEEKS. Not just a few hours. So stupid.
Oh, Hi ignorant anonymous person on the internet. What if we have to spend the night on the trail, work a branding, stand at a trailer, stand on a high line. My horses are WITH ME! They do what I do. If that requires them to wait and be patient so be it. They get fed and watered as needed and they move as needed. That’s part of a working partnership with an animal that IS NOT A PET.
@@equest3072 Horses literally are pets and they should be treated with respect, and not stand with something foreign in their mouth for hours upon hours the first time you do it with them. I'm not saying your.. culture.. can't tie the horses for x hours if you're doing an overnight at some place, but when it comes to training, you can't force a horse into doing something. When you put a bit in a horses mouth, you trigger their body into thinking they're going to consume food, so their body naturally produces alot more saliva during this time, which causes the horse to foam at its mouth as it can't swallow properly with a bit, which then in return can choke the horse to death. Same with their teeth, they have a habit to put the bit up on their back teeth (as we can clearly hear in the video) and trying to chew on it, this can cause their back teeth to shatter and break, which obviously is a problem. These are just some main factors to why you shouldn't leave the poor horse with a bit in his mouth the first time for hours. It's just cruel and dangerous.
@@equest3072 Because it's animal abuse. But sure! Go on and abuse animals, not like an equie and cattle veterinaries opinion should matter anyways, cause you know sooooo well what you're doing with the horse.
@@user-sy7ed7ke3d As a professional horseman, farrier, instructor, carded judge etc (with credentials) who works routinely with vets in a professional capacity, I am telling you that you need to educate yourself. You draw the term “abuse” like a gun, but have no real clue about animal welfare.
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Some very helpful tips here. Thank you!
This is a really great video with a lot of good tips. I was just wondering where did you get that set up you used?
I made it. Just cut the rings off an old snaffle and ran leather strips through
@@equest3072 thank you!
Why do you remove the rings and just have the mouthpiece for this set up?
It’s less cumbersome or likely to get caught on stuff. Horses at this stage are somewhat irresponsible with their heads and this keeps them out of trouble while they learn while they learn to pack a bit.
@@LiveEquestrian1 makes sense! Thank you for your reply!
I have a question, I’m a young and lightweight female and while I am strong I can be thrown around easily when my horses throw fits. I almost never fall off but it happens to everyone if you ride horses enough. I don’t know if I could handle a full on bucking session from my girl (12yr old wild horse) and if I couldn’t I would hate to teach her that bucking will stop the ride whenever she wants. So would it be a good idea to put a weight in the stirrup and possibly saddle to get her used to that feeling before I personally get on her?
I apologize if this is a weird or bad question, it’s my first time breaking a horse and the last thing I want to do is do it wrong
@@GoldenRoseSkies Don't .... BREAK.... your horse..... TRAIN .... your horse. Big difference. Good luck.
@@Deej496 Oh yes! I know that, I just use break as the general term. The way I put it is “Breaking the bad habits” but never ever breaking their spirit and body
Comments are disabled on your sale video so I was wondering, how tall is he?
Oh, my bad! I’ll turn them on. He is right at 15
@@LiveEquestrian1 Thank you. For some reason youtube has been defaulting to comments off on all new video uploads.
@@LiveEquestrian1 and FWIW if I had put up enough hay for a 4th horse this year I would be buying him at this auction but hay was in short supply over here this year so unfortunately I can't buy any more horses this year.
Why not ride in a rope halter and lead line converted to reins? It is effective and very good for the horse and rider.
A lot of people do that, and I have done that as well. Since the bitting rig is thin, it can be done at the same time as riding in a halter so they are better prepared for the bit. I personally prefer to start horses in the jaquima over the halter because it is a more precise tool with a specific release point, and nerve knots designed to work against the infraorbital nerve rather than kind of slide around the face.
@@LiveEquestrian1 I find I can give precise cues through the knots with subtle movement from the reins. Of course this assumes the rope halter fits well and the reins have good feel, like good quality sail line.
@@gerrycoleman7290 you bet! It's a good way.
A gag bit would be safer with cheek peace’s and save chipping a tooth
Not sure I follow the logic in that. Lots more moving pieces and potential issues with a gag. The likelihood of a tooth chipping is almost zero in this, but even if it did it would be on a premolar that is constantly growing so probably not an issue.
well if you had a tripod maybe I could have seen what I was looking for--how do you get it in their mouth--this was pretty useless
That's *HORRIBLE* leaving the horse for that f'ing long. 6 hours is ridiculous. Do it in small sessions at a time over the course of a few WEEKS. Not just a few hours. So stupid.
Oh, Hi ignorant anonymous person on the internet. What if we have to spend the night on the trail, work a branding, stand at a trailer, stand on a high line. My horses are WITH ME! They do what I do. If that requires them to wait and be patient so be it. They get fed and watered as needed and they move as needed. That’s part of a working partnership with an animal that IS NOT A PET.
@@equest3072 Horses literally are pets and they should be treated with respect, and not stand with something foreign in their mouth for hours upon hours the first time you do it with them. I'm not saying your.. culture.. can't tie the horses for x hours if you're doing an overnight at some place, but when it comes to training, you can't force a horse into doing something.
When you put a bit in a horses mouth, you trigger their body into thinking they're going to consume food, so their body naturally produces alot more saliva during this time, which causes the horse to foam at its mouth as it can't swallow properly with a bit, which then in return can choke the horse to death.
Same with their teeth, they have a habit to put the bit up on their back teeth (as we can clearly hear in the video) and trying to chew on it, this can cause their back teeth to shatter and break, which obviously is a problem.
These are just some main factors to why you shouldn't leave the poor horse with a bit in his mouth the first time for hours. It's just cruel and dangerous.
Please tell me why your opinion should matter to me.
@@equest3072 Because it's animal abuse. But sure! Go on and abuse animals, not like an equie and cattle veterinaries opinion should matter anyways, cause you know sooooo well what you're doing with the horse.
@@user-sy7ed7ke3d As a professional horseman, farrier, instructor, carded judge etc (with credentials) who works routinely with vets in a professional capacity, I am telling you that you need to educate yourself. You draw the term “abuse” like a gun, but have no real clue about animal welfare.