Sonic and the Black Knight: Swords Aren’t Cool Anymore | The Completionist
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Sonic and the Black Knight came out during a time where the Sonic games were trying just about everything. We saw some really weird directions, and at that point it seemed like they were throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. This time we got a direct sequel to Sonic and the Secret Rings, and it would be the last of the Sonic storybook franchise. Summoned by Merlin's grand-daughter: Merlina, as her champion to fight against the Black Knight. With a talking sword named Caliburn in hand, Sonic will run, jump, and slash his way through this medieval tale. But does slapping a sword on Sonic and Knuckles make them cooler? Or does it lead to some very weird, almost fanfiction moments?
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Are there any games you didn't plan to complete but got close enough by the end and decided why not?
Sonic 06 because its Sonic 06
I wasn't gonna 100 Spiderman PS4 but I got so close I was like truck it and beat it. Usually if I don't like a game after a couple of hours I quit so no in terms of just beating the story :(
I Am Setsuna,its was head by I learned through trial and error
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night! I went in and had a great time beating the game, and then I checked the trophy list and saw how everything was super obtainable if I just put the work in. Gotta say, the grind was its own thrill.
Yeah.
Ever heard of "Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight"? I did it with that one.
Fun fact: Caliburn was the original name of Excalibur in the old texts of Aurthorian legend.
Funner fact: Arthurian legend is basically an extended list of fanfiction. Lancelot was a fanfic character made to cuck Arthur.
@Wakka: Made in Yevon Nice
Wakka: Made in Yevon yeah he was the creation of a French writer who was like, you what screw Arthur I’m going to make a better character than him, he also FUCKS Arthur’s wife and is apparently the better person.
@@WakkaMadeInYevon and then somebody else made Gallahad to make Lancelot look like the douche he is.
Caliburn and Excalibure weren't even the same blade, excalibur is the sword in the stone, caliburn was the blade given by the lady of the lake
Despite the different tastes all of us have for this game, this was the last game where Sonic's developed personality was portrayed correctly.
And the last appearance of Sonics theme
And the last time Jason Griffith ever voiced Sonic to.
No?
@@Soniman001 Yes
@@EdgyQueen no
Jirard wielding 2 swords: "I have a problem...but a fun problem."
Never change Jirard.
Who needs voice in swords!? Assist characters in medieval ages ALWAYS are annoying in video games, tnx NAVY & Caliburn (actually worse since you can hear a shrieking "well done" from the wiimote if you do something "good")
Just cut the game down to size
Pikastorm what are you guys talking about that has nothing to do with the original comment
@@joostine3720 **no nO NO NO WHO THE GODDAMN WAS PIKASTORM**
@@toxenzz haha i don’t remember anymore that was 10 months ago, i just remember they said something completely random and i had no idea why they replied to this comment
Such an underrated game. It has its problems but still a lot of fun. Phenomenal soundtrack as well but thats expected for Sonic
To be honest I feel like Black Kngiht has one of the best soundtracks of the series. Maybe not the best but at least in the top three.
Joey 64 the best would have to go to sonic adventure 2 for me
@@goreman7160 That is also an excellent soundtrack. Not a fan of some of the mech and some of rouge's songs thoguh.
Joey 64 the best part of the whole soundtrack are the sonic/shadow songs in my opinion. Especially live and learn which I use for powering up in dnd campaigns
@@goreman7160 I can 100% agree with that! Live and learn is still one of my favorte final books theme of all time.
So youre telling me there's a Sonic game where he gets summoned into a Holy Grail War?
Fate: Run/Fast?
Ok that's funny
Weird, my saber Lily is a hedgehog...
Perfect comment
Dude... Shadow as Berserkerlot... now having Lancelot hold a fucking minigun sounds even better.
honestly theres so many spin offs i actaully thought tht was one of them
Sonic of mice and men.
Big: "Sonic tell me about the Froggys again.
Arin hanson: *vietnam flash backs*
The froggies are dead Big. They're all dead. Blame Chytridiomycosis.
Big: “And I’m gonna tend the Froggys”
Sonic: 🔫😔
I read this in English this year so I get the reference.
I actually thought that the story had managed to do SOMETHING good here. Most stories forget about the scabbard entirely, and I was genuinely surprised by the later betrayal.
Scabbard? That's actually important?
Damn, bravo Nasu.
@@r.k845Ikr? I think Nasu has singlehandedly managed to raise awareness of that artifact. I know that I never even knew it was until Fate.
@@4ncientGu150 as far as I was aware the scabbard wasn't important. It's not called Avalon, that's the Island afterall.
Does it actually have importance to the mythos?
@@r.k845 Depending on how far back/which version its either the scabbard or the belt. But yes, it does basically what we know it to, makes you immortal and youthful.
@@r.k845 (This is based off of my British Literature class) According to Sir Malory, the one who is the most closely related to have the "Arthurian legend" be what it is known for today, such as the characters Lancelot and Gawain, the scabbard was originally only meant to keep you from harm in battle. Basically, you can't get hurt. Idk which legend made the scabbard even more useful, but I'm just telling you what the original power of the Excalibur scabbard was.
Jirard: "Swords aren't cool anymore"
Then why Are you holding the Buster Sword close to your chest?
I'm actually more surprised at the number of comments who really enjoyed this game along with myself... I definitely feel we should voice the games we really enjoyed, because it seems like the scales are tipping in terms of what people liked in Sonic's history. Especially regarding some mid to late 2000's games.
It's not that bad. I kinda wish Sega could just remake this and Secret Rings. I think if they had made an adventure game for both of them, they could've been fun games that are replayable.
I think that's because a lot of the kids who grew up playing these games (Like us) are being more vocal about it.
@@sonicthehedgehog1416 That wouldn't be a remake then, now would it? And honestly, I'm sick of people heralding the Adventure formula as the perfect end all be all Sonic gameplay style like it has no faults. And whenever a game doesn't do that formula, they immediately call it garbage.
Was I the only one that hated the quick time events against the King Arthur boss?
@@johnathonturner2279 I'm not saying that it should be like the Adventure game. I'm saying that should have made it like a Zelda game but still incorporate Sonic's main focus. I never played the Adventure games but I can tell that they are overpraised, especially 2 since it could be way better than it is.
Edit: And I meant to have said reimagine not remake. My bad.
Jirard: Swords aren't cool anymore
*Sephiroth would like to know your location*
sephiroth isn't cool. Sue me.
*Noble Knights would like to honorably.... "discuss" with you*
Number 15
GoldenXP Separi-ath
Jirard: *swords aren't cool anymore* Sora: *HAH* *A-HUH* TAKE THIS!! BACK OFF! ITS OVER!
Half of the comments: Bad title/ ____ would like a word with you.
Other half: I like this game/I think this is a good game.
JayStack5 bro i LOVED this game
The 1 percent shitposting
I hyped for this game when i was a lil boi
@@rainstiger9994 same
@@rainstiger9994 same
To be honest this game is actually one of my favorites. You can hack and slash and still keep momentum really fast if you actually know how the game works. And sonic is supposed to fast soooo. Its also sad that the story book series stopped after this one because as you stated, they seemed to actually be improving. Plus Sonic helped me get interested in certain books I wouldn't have normally as a kid.
@ace's wrld Yeah I was hella interested on whut the next one would be. So many great books have been written over the years
I'd love to see a 3rd storybook game on the switch about greek mithology
But since SEGA cares about what critics say and not what everyone says, that's never gonna happen.
The Sonic Storybook Series: Exist
Anime fan: So basically Sonic gets Isekai'd and is given an overpowered ability.
like every other isekai
Look up Konosuba rock paper scissors.
Nah caliburn is actually pretty bad.There is a reason the lady of the lake gave Arthur the excalibur, caliburn fucking broke.
I almost choked on my spit from this comment.
He got Isekai’d before Isekai was a thing.
"Swords arent cool anymore"
Devil May Cry would like a word sir.
I'm a dmc fan and I think dmc5 has outdated features.
@@AnonYmouSchris19 Okay but is one of those features having sick ass swords?
@@AnonYmouSchris19 Could you be specific?
@@AnonYmouSchris19 I think the addition to Nero's arm stuff is super fun, and the returning gameplay elements are toned and fun
@@sinklar7946 the is fun just the online features, I was disappointed that there was no co-op in the game.
As someone who also completed this game while I was young and bored gaining the followers in game actually unlock special skills in your swordsmanship trees. There were 3 1 based on speed, another power, and one balanced while completing the speed and balanced happened very quickly the power tree required every single follower to max out which gave you the ability to turn into an auto attacking lightning bolt for those curious. Kinda surprised it wasn't mentioned at all.
NGL, i like this game, mostly for the interesting story and ideas, and the ost being great
That’s definitely where we give this game credit. Even if there are people that don’t really like it, they have to admit, it’s definitely an improvement from its only predecessor.
I actually really enjoyed the boss fights. Timing the swings for the strong counters was so satisfying to me
Jirard: swords aren't cool
Ganondorf: DORIYAH!!!
SIT!
TET!
HUYAHHH!
I think I know who's been destroyed lately by gannondwarf, because why else would he complain about the sword?
Sasuke would like to have a word with you.
Sonic's sword being Caliburn does make sense for a King Arthur story: Caliburn is another name for the sword most people recognize as "Excalibur."
Yeah. It's actually the LEGEND that pulls the "well that's a weirdly barely-changed version of a name you already used" trope, not the game.
Neat. I thought it was two different swords
I think that varies from legend to legend.
Well it works considering when Sonic goes Super Sonic, Caliburn becomes Excalibur so yea.
@@blazinginferno15 they have different origins but are both King Arthur's divine sword, they're just different versions of one another. I believe Caliburn was granted to Arthur by the lady of the lake and Excalibur was drawn from the stone
"There's no imagination in the environments. Its just generic fields and castles"
Immediately shows massive seige engines being pulled by giants
Dont forget the preceeding clip where Sonic is grinding on a crossbow-fired tightrope toward a massive statue that's crumbled into the castle sewage
Yeahhhhh for real
Yeah like, wtf.
These graphics are sweet for wii game, while yes, mostly you see are castles and tress, they still look interesting because of sky, lighting, and the use of colors.
And the Storybook presentation looks nice and does the models
@@SantiagoMonroy5 How did he not even bring up Molten Mine or Shrouded Forest when talking about visuals??
The double standards of basement dwelling mainstream nerd. He said the Wisps compliment Sonic's gameplay, when they're nothing but annoying, pace-breaking, timed minigames, put in order to pad the shallow Boost gameplay. So there is a precedent to his hypocrisy.
"This game deserves to be a lost footnote"
I'm gonna stop you there. This is legit still one of my favorites. Controls terribly at times, but still really fun to get into.
Same while I know it’s not the greatest game out there but there was a surprising amount of heart put into this game.
I agree. I loved this game. As a kid I would play levels over and over again. Still one of my favorites.
I agree
got that right
Both Secret Rings and Black Night didn't need to be on the wii, remakes or remasters of these games that could give them redefined controls would make them such better games. I still loved both of them though secret rings was my childhood and finding out about black knight made me so happy
I can't be the only one who enjoys this game. It was pretty cool going fast and slashing through monsters. Also shadow holding his sword backwards was interesting.
Judging by all these comments, your aren’t the only one who likes this game, not by a long shot. It seems the majority disagrees with Jirad which is a first
Black Knight is a fantastic example of merging combat with high speed, with similar flow to that of Mega Man Zero. I have no idea what happened in this video for Jirard to completely overlook how the combat is designed.
@@youmeltube probably just a different mindset since he is completing the whole game, but the game to me was still amazing.
I liked this game, as well. Music and final boss was awesome. I think each person's experience with this series will vastly differ depending on how seriously they approach it and how well the wiimote decides to behave.
@Sunset's Channel yeah you're right, I remember doing most of the stuff like collecting all the weapons for everyone and this made me love the game more.
Honestly(in my opinion)this is a great game. It has a cool unique story, amazing music and fun mechanics including classes leveling up and multiple playable characters. One of the most unique sonic games, no doubt.
I feel like I'm the one guy who loves this game for being different? I liked the swordplay because I could still go fast, but slow down time and slash through everyone with precision. Experimenting with other characters was fun too!
Am I the anomaly here?
ShinyGaara65 nope I feel the same way! Plus the story is awesome. Or I may just really like the stories of King Arthur idfk
ITS A MIRACLE THERES ANOTHER ONE FINALLY
You're not alone there, altho i like this game for what it could have been. I mean... they had a lot they could use from Arthurian legends... but they just decided to not use any of it... which is th sad part... but still, like i said before in another video where this game was mentioned... i still love the idea of thinking about how a sonic version of the round table would be... still as fucked up as the original, yet funny to imagine.
YOU NOT ALONE GUY!!!!
Not just you, I adore this game! I played it so much that I completed it, and I still love to go back to it even after. It's truthfully one of my favorites.
To be honest, I really like this game, it is one of the first Sonic games I ever completed, I still replay it till this day
i luv black knight. I just with the others were playable in the main story, too (and amy)
I also really like this game as well and i disagree with the title the swords are awesome and I wish they would make return
Honestly I like sonic and the black knight cause it felt unique from everything else sonic does on a day to day basis..... I'd rank it in the top 3 out of every game I've played for his series with the other 2 spots being taken by the first 2 in the sonic riders series
Sonic and the black knight has the best sonic soundtrack, you can’t change my mind
Black Knight has the best final boss theme ever.
Reach for the Stars...
Rooftop run
Right shrouded forest has such a good song it gives the feeling of going as fast as you can to reach the goal it's my favorite song in the game
@@chowderdx don't compare that auto-tune theme with crush 40s god-ness
Honestly I find this game to be a underrated gem.
I do as well.
Same. It's a genuinely fun game ngl.
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi Fair if you don't like it that's fine
Underrated game. The story in this game shits all over Forces too.
Soundtrack also.
Shitting over Forces story isn't hard
Oh yeah! I really miss this game. It was one of the first games I ever completed 100% as a young kid at 9 years old. I know there are others who completed games at younger ages, but everyone’s different. I’m proud of this game for making me feel happy.
You my friend, are a man of culture.😁
Thank you, man. You too.
I mostly remember this game for its beautiful ending. Even though the gameplay had its hiccups here and there, I really enjoyed the presentation. At the end, when Sonic consoles an anxious girl scared of dying, his words really resonated and taught me the intrinsic value of life, while also helping my 6 year-old self accept loss as a natural part of living.
I completed it at 24, and it still gave me chills. This game was my entry in the Sonic fan club
It may not be perfect for everyone, but the game was fun enough for me, the story beautiful, and the caractérisation a good blend of cartoon and réalisme
All and all, a good game
I’m gonna be honest, I don’t like the title, LOOK AT GUNDAM AND SAY SWORDS ARENT AWESOME ANYMORE,
ninten dash I guess Zoro (One Piece) and Demon Slayer people aren’t cool characters.
Gundam 00 and Blue frame Astray: we got the Power.
Axes are cooler
Barry Bend I was thinking sengoku astray and Exia, but that works too.
Forget Gundam, Rwby makes A TUBA INTO GUN!!!
10:20 Okay, I'm not saying some settings couldn't be more interesting when I point this out, but you really chose a weird time to show footage of a convoy of massive (prison?) wagons being pulled by giants
Prison wagons, yup. You even get bonus points for rescuing the villagers.
I'll be honest, Sonic & the Black Knight is my favorite Sonic game on the Wii. The soundtrack is the best part in the game imo.
The Completionist: Swords aren't cool anymore.
Also The Completionist: I love swords, I have about 30 of them laying around.
All I could think of as this video started was "Unavoidable chin move!"
I still really like the story and music of this game even if gameplay isnt that great
Justin Arney I agree with you on that! This was one of the first few sonic games I owned/played. I played it with my cousins and we had such a great time playing. My only reason for not finishing it was because I couldn’t get passed the last Arthur fight and decided to quit. But even then I still love the game.
@@danteallstar826 I remember having such a hard time with that fight because I think there was a move in the air your had to perform without any prompt to do so.
Justin Arney same!
Same.
Justin Arney, I mean it’s good in Sonic standards but for King Arthur legends it looks like a first grader wrote it. No offense of course. And if they really polished the story of King Arthur’s kingdom falling apart due to the knights and this new character who manages to mend the rifts. Then they really should’ve read more King Arthur material or make it a different title.
Honestly I completed this game as well, but I actually had fun doing it
I actually think this game’s pretty good I have lots of fun playing and the music is just awesome
The music thing is pretty much every Sonic game, though. BUT! I must agree that the game is better than most give it credit for, plus YES, Crush 40 did a great job on the theme and the level music is just 👌
God I love this game. It's not the best but I would argue that it isn't bad either. This was always a 6.5 out of 10 for me.
I think it would have been better if this game was a hack and slash. You give someone a sword, they better Devil May Cry when using it!
I feel the same way.
Jirard was complaining about the controls, and all I have to say about that is "Use the gosh darn WII MOTION PLUS, you idiot!"
Also if you are into the Hack and Slash genre, this game is actually pretty fun.
I feel Jirard thought people still hated this game so he based his opinions around what he thought the internet still felt when in reality, people are starting to appreciate these games more now since recent sonic games have been a bit meh.
Any other sonic games you guys think are pretty underrated?
Sonic and SEGA'S All Star Racing?
Got carried over? Are we... Are we playing the same game? Sega got rid of "tilt mote left and right to turn" and all that in Black Knight. Basically the only motion command now is to swing a sword
Sounds nitpicky, but I feel that's just unfair. Black Knight is definitely not the greatest Sonic games, but it was still enjoyable enough. The only gripe I have is farming followers. Also spear enemies... Other than that it was actually quite a pleasant little adventure
Also, Blaze as a knight is pure waifu material
Blaze is already pure waifu material. She is undisputed best girl.
@@polkadi
It also gives Blaze an (official???) theme instead of just vela-nova , which while i enjoy, is shared with sonic which kinda ruins the original feel for me.
@@geistgrace6452 does it through? There were some generic zoro-type music before her boss fight. And equipping Percival medal changes level music to vela-nova
@@nolanstrife7350
that's why I said "(official???)"
I don't think its her theme per-say, but it kinda fits her in a way.
btw,
what is sonics theme? i keep forgetting.
@@geistgrace6452 Sonic's (official?) theme is "Knight of the Wind", but the Sonic Medal changes the music to "What I'm Made Of".
Personally I enjoyed this game a lot when I played it, and it is a major step up from Secret Rings. Though I can see why completing it would be a bit of a drag.
Damn, it's sad that Jirard didn't see the effort put into this game. I mean yeah the game has its clunky parts but for being a sequel to Secret Rings, this game improved in almost every aspect (gameplay, story, soundtrack, mechanics). Even the complains Jirard had in the review (when he talked about sonic needing to stop to do qte prompts for the missions, or how when sonic needed to stop to slash enemies, making the game pretty stop-n-go) had solutions in the Blacksmith system. There you can use all (yes all of the items. Believe me, Every item works) to upgrade the style you're playing. You can get perks like slashing while running (without interupting the flow of speed), doing the villager quests without qte's (just having Sonic running past by them) and finally a style that is more focused on speed.
By gaining followers, you can improve the style of "knight" that you're playing. This, I think, adds a good amount of replay value in this game. Trying out different styles changes the pace of this a bit. Also the extra "legacy" missions served as an homaje to the series. I really see this game as a better sequel to secret rings and actually see this as a decent sonic game, because of the amount o "fan service" and call outs to the series this has. To me, this game is an underrated decent Sonic game, too bad that Jirard didn't see this though😢
great summery. to me it deserved at least a "finish it" rating.
You played this game when you were a kid. He isnt being blinded by that sort of nostalgia. He judged it immensely fairly
@@zeroescape I guess you could say that. But if you ask me someone who has also 100 percented this game three times now. I think it warrants at least a playthrough.
@@zeroescape Dude, l've only played this game since last year (and I'm 20). The one I played when I was a kid was Secret Rings. And I completely agree that that game is trash😂. For Black Knight, I wasn't talking about nostalgia, just some callbacks to the series in general. Yes, the review was somewhat fair, but like I said, some of Jirard's complains had their solutions within the game. It's just that he didn't bother trying them out (making his completion of the game all the more boring). Still, I can see why the comtrol hinders the accesibility of this game to fans. But on the other hand, since I'm not as hardcore sonic fan as he is, maybe that's why he is more critical about the game
@@paxo000 yeah. But still, I see why it's hard to see the highs in this game. Still think it's decent enough for even Hardcore fans
I like how people think this is a main series game.
The storybook games are pretty clearly spin offs.
They are still a part of canon though
I love this game and I always get upset when I see people missing what I love. I'm not mad at Jirad, he's entitled to his opinion, but a lot of people on the internet seem to miss everything I love and it seems they just... This is gonna sound really bad, but it seems a lot of people either just don't get it, despite the tutorials that make it all clear and easy, or intentionally play badly to make fun of the series.
This deserved at least a Play it. It isn't nearly as bad as Secret Rings.
honestly, I liked this game enough that I wouldn't mind if Sonic Team would try to revisit this concept, maybe using the Adventure formula as a base instead of the Auto-runner Boost Formula hybrid they used
Agreed
When you have an addiction to completing games: "I have a problem, but a fun problem."
"Lost footnote." Lost footnote? LOST FOOTNOTE?! Good sir, that is a statement most false! There are FAR worse sonic games out there that deserve such a title!
He's a mainstream "game reviewer" nerd (better now, my easily triggered lovelies ?). Do you honestly expect someone like him to delve deeper and look at the merits ?
Daniele Mulas damn dude chill the hell out
@@rtycoffee5288 I am chill. Why are you getting so worked up over the truth ?
“He’s a mainstream fatass nerd” - someone chill apparently
Im saying chill out no need to be a douche if someone doesn’t like a game as much as you do
People remember good games, people remember bad games.
Sonic and the Black Knight was neither.
This game was always so fun when I was younger. It isn’t so much now days, and it is quite hard to get good at it, but I love it so.
This was the first game i saw about Sonic.....and i love it even today.
It's a shame you didn't enjoy this game, Jirard. When I played it, I loved it. I thought it was a short but sweet spin-off, with a surprisingly good story and writing, not to mention a killer soundtrack. If nothing else, it's an improvement of the Secret Rings gameplay style
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS GAME WAS GREAT (I’m the one guy I guess)
AGREEDD
I liked this game as well
I like this game too. It's my favorite Sonic game on the Wii.
There are at least 5 of us! I loved this game!
Favourite 3D Sonic
Tbh. I actually really liked The Black Knight. I thought it was really fun.
Honestly I really loved this game, i just wish that the mechanics were a bit more polished
That’s pretty much my big thing. I do think the use of the Wii motion controls hampered the game in a number of ways since you can’t really be all that precise with it. Plus the game could stand to have a combo system instead of “swinging your sword”.
@@Neo232100 It does have a combo system, though. There's about a dozen different attacks that all string into each other based on how you hold the stick or move as you swing.
Yeah this game was hurt really bad by the motion controls same for the Secret Rings. Both are great games but suffered due to the choice of console. It had a good combat system but the Wii was not a good choice for them to be released on.
@@Zeromaru42 Wouldnt say motion controls hurt Secret Rings, if anything it helped it thanks to the degree of precision possible in left/right turning. The games wouldnt have been the same without the Wii's limitations both for better and worse
"Swords aren't cool anymore
The fire emblem lords would like to speak to you other than Micaiah, Edelgard, Claude, and Dimitri
santazombieslayer * and Ephraim, hector and probably a few more :p
@@aleisshiki3649 oh yeah them too, that's all the lords with other weapons types
I am disappointed in this review and that was due to the fact that I OWN THIS GAME ON THE Wii and I had fun with it both story and gameplay wise. It was tough, but at least it had some twist to what the previous game had.
I actually liked this game last time I played it...
Same, though it's admittedly been a long time.
This is actually my favorite Sonic game on the Wii, also I thought you like Sonic Unleashed, also why are Sonic Riders zero Gravity, Sonic Rush Adventure and Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed on that list of "tossing things at the wall to see what sticks"
And you my friend are my favourite person. Have an awesome day!
Me too, on the wii
My favorite is sonic colors, but this is pretty good as well
@@EternalAsh20 I thought Sonic Colors was good but over praised
That's effectively what they were. Throwing things at the wall.
It just so happens that those are some of the games that "stuck."
"Throwing things at the wall" doesn't always mean "all of these things are bad," it can sometimes mean "all of these things are weird."
Gosh dang, every time I get a Completionist video recommended to me, the intro is different, and looks even more high quality-- I freakin love your intros, my dude. Keep up the good work!
Sonic and the Black Knight is the most underrated Sonic game of all time.
Once you get Lancelot’s final weapon, the game becomes so much easier
Isn't it funny that I, as a 9 year old when this game out, was able to precisely control both Black Knight and Secret Rings better than a full grown adult? Hell, I'm still able to control it well.
I had the same feeling while watching this video
He really is bad at controlling this game and I got it right as a 13 year old boy
Same bud. Same. And I LOVED IT
Same lol
White-Van Helsing I played through the game for the first time last month and I controlled it almost perfectly. He has no excuse. This whole review is just “Sonic bad”
This is my favourite Sonic game....I don’t care what anyone says about this game, I love it! It’s so underrated!
This is my favorite Sonic game.
I'm not joking.
Probably in my Top 10 Sonic games, for me.
I applaud you for having an opinion because half of these comments never touched the game and say it's bad because a RUclipsr says so
It's a favorite of mine too, glad I'm not the only one
@@TheDrummer1234321 Preach. Sick as hell of bandwagoning sheep mentality.
I love the game
This was my favorite wii game as a child i could beat the final boss in under 30 seconds i have no clue how but the record is there
Fastest click in the west. This game was my childhood!
I feel like the weapon crafting for knuckles shadow and blaze is at least worth a mention, since its fairly well implemented and unlocks new abilities for them.
For instance, turning shadows super into chaos control is very satisfying, and I will always have fond memories of this game.
Oh boy, another “Sonic is bad because it’s different from the other games” review
Stupid, right?
Wigglytuff
Sonic “fans” : We need something new, something fresh
Sonic team: Oh no problem
“Fandom”: Why are you trying something new we should go back to the classic style
Sonic team: sonic rush
“Fandom”: we need the adventure style
Good part of the fandom and sonic team: WHAT DO YOU WANT?!
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi nobody knows what they want him to be.
I really like this game, honestly one of the most underated in the franchise
Agreed.
Same here
I agree
Yep the music and cutscenes are sick
The game sucks. Sonic fans are dumb asf.
I actualy remember liking this game quite a bit. Combination of sonic and the knights of the round table was so cool to me.
not just to you
This game was cool
will marsden, the CONCEPT is cool. But in Sonic Team fashion they executed kinda poorly. Especially when you read the Arthurian legends for yourself.
No matter how old we get, we can all agree that sword will always be cool.
"Swords aren't cool anymore."
Dante with his big damn sword and motorcycle chainsaw greatswords: *S W O R D M A S T E R*
TRICKSWORDTRICKSWORDROYALSWORDMASTER
"Swords aren't cool anymore"
Bleach has opinions on that statement.
haha bleach sucks
Salad-in
>Little witch academia
>Bleach sucks
okay
Demon slayer
@@Needwagon4Speedwagon thanks for taking the bait.
At least he Little Witch Academia author didn't give up on their creation and get the manga prematurely cancelled.
JJBA sucks as well by the way.
@@Salad-in using the same trick against me, clever and unpredictable, bait was delicious btw
Jirard: Swords aren’t cool anymore.
Bleach would like to have a word with you.
Its just now that I realized how high quality this channel is. The audio, the intro, the scripting, the video itself. Thank you.
"Swords aren't cool anymore"
*furiously praises the Sun*
I'm kind of surprised with the "Look At It" rating. Sure the game may not be fun to complete 100%, but I think the gameplay itself at least warrants giving the game a try. Barely mentioned how this game improves on the issues Secret Rings had too.
Then again, he barely mentions any of the similarities between the two beyond a surface level. Lots of this video just felt like empty words more than actual review, tis rather strange.
Mellon, in a way it can be. He does complain about the sluggishness a bit too much.
But if you pay attention he does say the world and the story could’ve been better and bigger like an event (something SEGA used to treat every Sonic game). He also says how going fast and doing the swordplay in this game feels not polished enough. It doesn’t exactly have the synergy it needed to have and the levels sure aren’t built for it either. And I thought that’s what the all the Sonic games do. In here, it’s binary: “you’re either [going fast] or you’re not. You’re either [swinging the sword] or you’re not.” It tries to satisfy swordplay with speed but it fails both. It’s OK in the Boost games or the racing games, but this one really needed more time in the oven to make everything flow better because this game needed that “Classic mentality” the most.
@@jasonnguyen1072 The swordplay and speed flow seamlessly if you actually know how the combat works. You can homing attack + sword swing to barrel through series of enemies while slicing them all, do backflips and slash at once, fall down on foes with a spinning cutter and then blast off at full speed, etc. Theres a lot more to the combat than just mindless swinging or stopping in place.
Mellon, yes and I know what you’re talking about when you’re referring to that. And if you use those things then yes you can enjoy the game. But there are other stuff the game puts out that completely kill the synergy of it. Especially for the times you are going slow on foot. Such as sword itself (especially for Sonic), is especially not that fun. It needed more attacks than three slashes and jumping (both separate mechanics btw). Maybe a combo or completely new mechanic even that can be more complicated but satisfying to pull off on the land other than a block and three sword slashes. Back flipping and slashing can be cool (especially when dodging enemies) but it can only satisfy you for so long. Same with the platforming, it is stuff like these that are bringing the franchise down due to it being like a generic platformer like the 2D sections and to an extent Generation’s 3D sections (Forces and HD/7th Gen Unleashed too).
The main attacks are cool yes and you can have fun with them and they flow well, but they are what also kill the game and the attacks you do on land and foot don’t work well with these attacks at all. The Spin Attack is the only real satisfying way to get work done in base as like you said it blasts you off when you land. But it also encourages people to spam it instead of actually using the other moves. Same with the Jump Dash (“Homing Attack”). The Soul Surge is also an excellent way of doing things but it is what also killed the game in terms of level design and gameplay as well. It’s basically like the Boost + Homing Attack but with perhaps more skill and finesse. And like the Boost games, the whole of the gameplay is only subsidiary compared to that except for platforming where you can use the backflip and the sword slash but can’t exactly go faster due to the large gaps unless you have the Soul Surge or Jump Dash.
@@jasonnguyen1072 Agree to disagree.
Swords aren't cool.
Dark Souls: am I a joke to you?
*wields demon axe with malicious intent*
@White-Van Helsing just hit the 30 faith for Grant
I love pretty much everything about the Storybook games, except for the motion controls. I would love to see remakes using either the normal Adventure/Boost mechanics, or even just hand it off to someone like Platinum Games or Nihon Falcom to make them into full out Action RPGs.
Hell, imagine a sequel with Sonic in mythological Feudal Japan made by the folk behind Okami. I dunno, maybe Lyric could be Orochi.
It would be cool to see this idea of Sonic going to fictional worlds come back.
Sonic and the Seven Deadly Sins maybe? (Or is that just Lost World...)
The Good, The Bad, and The Sonic?
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@White-Van Helsing I took a screenshot from the YT page and just zoomed in so I can draw the smile and glasses so yeah😂
"Swords aren't cool anymore."
*Shadiversity has entered the chat*
But what about dragons?!
Shad- swords are actually still pretty cool ny-ok
Watching this show has shown me that there are so many Sonic games I’ve never heard of
I remember playing this game a lot with a friend an loving it. We talked recently about replaying it because we found it so cool.
I'd love to see the Storybook games come back. The story and themes of the games were not bad, and they were something different! Just the controls for me were.. my god
Considering the story writer, Shiro Maekawa (also wrote SA2, Heroes, Secret Rings, part of 06 and Zero Gravity), has left SEGA years ago, it's not gonna happen soon. However, the irony is, most of the devs who worked on this game also worked on Lost World and partly Forces. Let that sink in.
The idea was good, the execution. Dear god the execution
@@DanieleMulas-up7np The lead game designer for both Storybook games would end up being the director for those two mentioned and Colors, all three of which I will fully argue are worse than the Storybook duo
Actually, I don't even feel like the controls were bad at all. I think the Wii controls in general were inconsistent depending on a variety of factors, including how the gamer holds the wiimote. I never struggled with the controls for this series of games.
@@youmeltube Yeah, Morio Kishimoto is a horrible game director. And the lead level designer of Lost World and Forces (whose name escapes me now) also worked on Secret Rings. Considering all three tend to have on-rail running on straight lines sections, I can totally tell how talented this guy is.
Uh.....yeah.
Kinda missing the crafting feature aren't we? Crafting swords for the Round Table Knights is technically a reward. Also there are medals to change up sounds which is kinda dope. Also the 1 on 1 fights are pretty dope, especially the rematch vs Shadow's Knightsona.
Why is that not included in the review? Along with that, aren't usually final fights and the story included in these reviews or am I missing something?
The game's referencing a pretty nice story and even goes somewhat deeper with references like using the alternative name of Excalibur; Caliburn.
The game surely is short and some of the challenges are god-awful but if you play properly, you got potential to rush through levels (for the most part) like never before.
They also included some gameplay mechanics like perfect shielding which gave you meter which is a crucial feature to use in the rematch against Shadow.
Also how can you not talk about the later part of the game? The writing is so good, you feel like you got time against you, the plottwist was not one you would expect easily and this game probably has the absolute best transformation and the most epic transformation cutscene to go with it (except maybe the butt cape but that at least has comedic value).
The audio is one of the best ones as well and it doesn't use the cringe writing they have done in the newer cames following this one.
I'm kinda sorry but I do not get behind this review at all. A lot of the positive things are overlooked/ignored while only negativity got showcased. Considering that Sonic and a storybook should not go together, it's a pretty fun story.
I know this is a seven-month-old comment, but agreed. This review in general feels off.
And for whatever reason, there feels to be a bit of hypocrisy? Like he says the environments and such looks unoriginal and dull, yet show the giant trolls dragging wagons filled with people and then Sonic grinding on a string from a giant crossbow into a wreaked castle. The environments here look amazing for what they were going for. And like you said, he states that the items don't do anything... yet you use them to craft better weapons.
He also continuously states that this game had no love put into it and was made lazily with a "why not" mentality thrown in, which is a statement with no support and one I strongly disagree with. The improved gameplay, the different gameplay styles, the unlockables with multitudes of references to Sonic and King Arthur lore respectively, the inclusion of fanart, the new characters in multiplayer mode, the overall style of this game, the ambition; this game feels and looks like it has more love put into it than any Sonic since Generations.
And this isn't even my favorite nor one of my favorite games! I'm not a fan of the gameplay on the Wii (which is really my biggest issue with the game) and I know there are flaws in this game, but there is a lot this game does that deserves more credit. Like you said, it seems like he just overlooked/ignored the positives while amplifying/showcasing the negatives, having the mentality that "Sonic games were rough until Colors" as fact. It just felt really off, since I usually enjoy his reviews of games in the past.
I don't care what anyone says, Sonic and the Black Knight is definitely top 3 of my Sonic games, first is Colors and second is Generations. It was honestly thanks to Black Knight that caused me to fall in love with the King Arthur storyline. So it was like, adding an amazing character to an amazing universe.
Picked up this game in a bargain bin in a store that normally doesn't sell games. From a completion standpoint, it's a chore. But I personally think this game doesn't deserve the negativity it has gotten. It's by no means a master piece, but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. It's the concept of Sonic with a sword. And that's about it.
Personally, I think this game was pretty good. Not as good as other sonic games but good enough that I would want to come back and play more. If you know how to play the game right, it is really fun and fast paced, especially if you abuse the buzzsaw attack.
I actually enjoyed this game alot
Same , fully acknowledged its shit , but tell that to 12 year old me
Props for using Caliburn, the sword in the stone, rather than Excalibur...since Arthur had two special swords that were totally different.
This game is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know It's not good, but I found something for me to enjoy with it.
Oh look, another “Sonic bad” review. How original
Benjamin Oakden 06, Secret Rings, Free Riders, Boom, Forces. Laughable. Of course. Just because there’s been a few doesn’t mean every game is bad. This review is one of the most biased things I’ve ever heard
Benjamin Oakden You’re definition of “bad” is is what’s laughable. The only bad Sonic Boom game was Rise of Lyric. Shattered Crystal was boring, but not bad. Fire and Ice was actually pretty good. Sonic Lost World was great. People just didn’t like it because it was different. 1/2 of Sonic Unleashed wasn’t bad gameplay-wise, just length-wise, Shadow the Hedgehog was only bad story-wise, sure Sonic R, Triple Trouble was fine. It seems all you’re doing is looking at the controversial stuff and calling it “terrible” even when it’s not. And no I’m not defending this game out of nostalgia. I just played this for the first time LAST MONTH. I can’t GET nostalgic for this game yet. Multiple points he had in this video are just plain and simply WRONG. “I wish the Wii Remote was only used for swordplay.” Uh, IT IS! There IS nothing else it does! “All the different stage themes are generic.” Ah yes, I remember those other Sonic games where you fired a ballista into a castle wall then proceeded to grind on the rope. Heck, I remember there being a medieval castle level PERIOD. I also remember that OTHER game where giants are pulling enormous prison wagons. Or that OTHER Sonic game with a mining town inside of a volcano. Or that OTHER Sonic game with a magical snowy forest where the trees come alive and try to kill you. Or that OTHER Sonic game where you go through a dragon’s lair. And of COURSE he wasn’t enjoying the game, just look at how he plays! He used the Soul Gauge correctly maybe ONCE. He kept slamming into enemies to halt all momentum, then proceeded to slash at them instead of either slashing from the get-go or using the chaining buzzsaw homing attack. “I can’t get five stars immediately.” It’s a game with an RPG-style LEVEL UP SYSTEM. Of COURSE you’re not gonna be as good as you can be at the beginning of the game. “This system probably wouldn’t even be better if they added more swords.” This is just making me think he didn’t actually play the game and just watched the Game Grumps. THERE ARE MORE SWORDS! And they add a lot of customization to the game! This “review” is nothing but biased crap
Only games i find "Real Bad" are 06,Boom ROL, Jam for game.com and free riders.
Heroes is great
Shadow is just average, get over it.
Secret Rings is fun at times
Unleashed is phenomenal
Black Knight is great
Lost world is great
Forces is just average
@@ForestDa1865 bye you patronizing prick
@@ForestDa1865 Y'know, it's hilarious that you complain about him calling this guy out on his opinion, but you also try to tell him that his opinion is wrong by saying that he is just filled with nostalgia. You get on him for acting like his opinion is factual, yet you try to give your own opinion that you pass off as factual. Thank you for that. Made my day.
This was one of my favorite Sonic games.
"They don't do each other any favors like Putting Ice Cream on Pizza"
Dairy Queen: Hold my Ice Cream Pizza!
Honestly, the follower mechanic, in theory, kind of feels like a reasonable evolution of Sonic in the You-tube/selfie age. Getting followers for doing cool things, finding secrets, and taking alternate routes through a level, and getting some sort of completionist reward like artwork, music, extra enemies, big head mode, etc. for number of followers could be a cool thing. it just sounds like it wasn't well implemented.
"Swords arent cool anymore"
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I love this game.
The final truly great Sonic game, and at the end of his best era.
That's my honest, unironic opinion.
Tho I notice youre not using the homing attack and slash at the same time. It barrels through rows of enemies.
The best part about this game is I think it's the only Sonic game to have any sort of reference to his favorite food... the Chili Dogs he's holding at the very beginning
Jazwares was obsessed with this particular series for some reason.
To this day they're some of the best Sonic figurines though.