I think we all forgot a few things. We are not sure if Martin left because he thought Marc was getting the seat or Ducati didn't pay him what he asked. If it was the former then Martin did the right thing. He has to make money too. But if it was the latter then Ducati had the easiest option, getting the almost best on grid, for lesser than what Martin asked, who can also sell your merchandise, one of the strongest team in MotoGP history, may be clench the remaining 1000cc titles, whether Marc or Pecco, they still win. Whether you like Marc or not, he's money, he's the entertainment, he's the attraction for now. Just like Rossi was, Pedro is going to be. Although Martin ethically deserved it, the world lives on Survival of the fittest. If Marc/Pecco do not perform well, they'll sack them too. It's a hard pill to digest.
Nothing to do with money, Ducati decided after the Mugello race it was Marquez According to Dall’Igna nothing to do with marketing, “there’s as many fans hate Marc as love him” It was purely a sporting decision for our aim of winning the world championship
you can't tell this to the yellow clowns. marc lives rent-free in their heads since 2015, but they forgot, that since then marc changed a lot. You can clearly see in this year that Marc entertains regularly every weekend and not just during the races.
Marc Marquez has all the cards. Not only did he get the factory seat but all of the riders got purged except Pecco. It looks like it will be either him or Pecco unless some other manufacturer step up the game for next season. A lot of talent and not enough seats. Martin just got unlucky circumstances. I wish him success with aprilia.
Ducati have the data and they chose Marc, they are confirming what those of us without yellow tinted glases know..that hes still the best rider on the grid. Then theres his popularity and marketing strength...when i saw Audi giving Marc a new RS6 it looked like it was always going to be Marc. Love him or hate him its definitely more spicy with Marc at the top end mising it with the 24 Ducatis
In 2019, Álvaro Bautista while comfortably leading the WSBK Championship, signed with Honda. He was hoping to take the No 1 plate with him to Honda. Ducati made sure that never happened.
Would you mind telling me what they did? I didn't follow WSBK then, but I got curious since Bautista drives for them again? Personally if I got fucked over i wouldn't go back to the team that made sure I'm not winning. Thanks!
He knew Ducati wanted him, knew the plan was to put him with Pramac and keep Martin in the Factory team He called their bluff refused to ride for Pramac Ducati now had to give him the Factory seat or lose him, it worked Remember this is a very calculated man, he said before all this played out he had a plan Why would Ducati put him to Pramac if they thought Pramac was going to Yamaha Makes absolutely no sense their main aim was to get him on their bike in 2025
Doesn't Pramac riders are signed directly to Ducati? Hypothetically speaking, even if Pramac decided to go with Yamaha. Marc would still be with Ducati. And probably, Pramac wouldn't go there because they have Marc on-board.
@@jhonvincentdayson929 If Marc agreed to ride for Pramac then Martin could have still got the Factory ride, Ducati wanted to keep both of them but they both wanted the Factory seat Marc knew exactly what he was doing stating he wouldn’t join Pramac
Marc didn't want to go to Pramac mainly for personal reasons I reckon. I wouldn't like to go to a team where I know I won't be comfortable and it will be tension 24/7, so it's clearly that Pramac is not an option for him, and like he said "To go to a satelite team, I stay in the one I'm in" 😊
thinking Maverick might be leaving, dont know , you're right a lot will depend on what Pramac does... so many riders left to sign contract, i expect things will happen soon for most, Enea next yeah. Re Honda, makes you think they've prob been in trouble for a long time, but with Marc "riding around the problems" it seems as thought all their problems are new, they arent. as always cheers guys for your pods!
I'm a huge MM93 fan but it really was sad to hear Ducati chose against The Martinator. He really deserved the seat. I hope everything goes very very well at Aprillia for him. Poor guy.
The coverage was excellent. The teams and riders were covered. The VR46 getting the latest spec bike sounds good. Maverick going to Honda. Mm yeh. But the money sounds good.
@@sburns2421you know most Italians don't ride superbikes. If he one a world championship on a KTM they'd sell a shit ton of smaller spec bikes with race livery. When Max was winning all those 250cc world championships Aprilia (Piaggio) were selling a race livery scooter which was extremely popular.
I've read that Campinotti isn't happy on what's happening around. That there is sporting and personal disappointment towards Ducati. So it's possible that they would jumpship to Yamaha next year. And I think that would be great to see less Ducati bikes and Yamaha have a satellite team again to at least even out the grid and help Yamaha to sort their bike faster for having 2 extra database.
The championship number belongs to the rider. If he wins he'll go into next year as the number one rider. It's then up to him if he uses it like Pecco or puts it on his leathers, or doesn't use it at all.
Lots of interesting things happening. Me, I don't see Martin ever winning a MotoGP title as he is too mentally weak under pressure. This showed in Moto2 as well as 2022 with the Bastianini decision - Basta 3rd, earning the title and Martin 9th (?). Last year was Martins best chance of a title and without doubt he blew it all on his own. I am not too sure if Ducati would have moved Martin if he won last year as they made a committment to Bastianini shortly after he was taken out that all he had to do was to get well and back to form for this year. With Martin jumping ship he will not get the new parts so will not get any new upgrades that Pecco and Basta will. It is even possible since Pramac is rumored to be going to Yamaha for 2025 even though they confirmed their deal with Ducati that Franki will not get anything new either.
As you have pointed out - interesting times. Here's what I think might be possible: Pramac - seeing that Yamaha seem to be moving in the right direction take the big payday and bank on that seeming improvement being continued. Vinales to Honda is career suicide given he needs a friendly environment and a bike he feels confident on to perform at his best. However Vinales on a year old Ducati at Gresini or Pramac (if they don't sign with Yamaha) seems more realistic. He might not like the feeling he will have to play 2nd fiddle to Martin next year - but if he is reassured he will get even treatment (which makes sense for Aprilia given he now knows the bike and is performing on it) I think he will stay. Ennea to Gas Gas makes sense for him since he will get works rider status there (KTM have more or less implied that will be how the 4 bikes will be equally supported). Miller does not want to be anywhere not giving him the potential to be fighting up at the front - he won't want to be playing with the tail-senders even for a massive payday; so it makes sense to go to Gas Gas if offered the chance. That would give KTM a 4 bike team of proven fast riders. That leaves Aprilia's second team - Trackhouse. It seems that Fernandez is started to find some form on the old spec bike and he is still young. The other seat is also a question mark. Here's a out of left field suggestion you guys didn't consider - Iannone. Andrea has demonstrated he is still a fast rider in WSBK and has suggested there are possibly Moto GP options open for him. Could Trackhouse be one of them? Personally I would like to see Pramac go to Yamaha; Ennea and Miller to Gas Gas; Vinales stay with Aprilia; and Joe Roberts to Trackhouse IF he keeps winning or at least making the podium; Iannone if he doesn't. Wouldn't that make for a great 2025!
You guys act like Martin must be given the same upgrades as Pecco because Pramac has a factory bike. I would just like to remind you all that last year once Zarco announced his move to Honda, he was not given the updates that Martin, Pecco and Bastinini got in 2H even though he was supposed to have a factory bike. Also the year before Martin and zarco had a different spec bike which was a 2022 bike and pecco/Jack had in-between spec between 21 and 22
because Marc can adapt to GP 23 very quickly, and we have to know that the GP 23 that Marc uses is last year's GP 23 on Zarco's motorbike, not the GP 23 on Pecco's motorbike which has won the 2023 title. Not only that, Marc have big value than Martin on market. Ducati know this person is different. Martin and Enea is very good rider but Marc is on another level.
I'm thinking that once Iannone gets a few more races in (hasn't raced in 4 years and never on those tires) he could again prove that he's still GP material and or a candidate for Bautista's seat. If Ducati had kept him instead of Dovi he might have given Marquez a harder time. You're right, he is 34 but Bautista turns 40 in November and it sounds like he may be ready to spend more time with his family. Just thought that Ducati/Pramac could get him for a relatively low salary and that he'd bring sponsors and Ducati experience to the team.
The Iannone back to MotoGP smells of a rumor started by his manager with no basis in reality. But who knows? Give him a day on a Trackhouse Ape and see if he is better than Fernandez.
Being a "factory rider" must have a huge allure that I don't really understand. A Ducati under Bastianini would give him the best chance at wins over the second KTM factory team. Maybe the money is vastly different.
Maybe its a statistical thing, how many riders in the modern era won on a satelite bike? Only Rossi (nastru azurro). Being on a factory ride will always be a bit better, even if just 1% i guess
Money is bound to be better, but I think it's more a case of "giving yourself the best chance" thinking. Being with a factory will mean all the best parts, support and research, giving you the best chance of winning on that particular machine...as well as you ride it, I suppose
@@LanoLourenco Rossi’s bike was Full Factory Honda with Full Factory backing, they had to set up a one man team for Rossi as both Repsol seats were already taken Every man and his dog accepts it wasn’t a satellite team
@@martinboodukofi3 Bastianini and Martin’ contacts were the same, when Bastianini got the Factory ride over Martin, Paolo Ciabatti confirmed in an interview they had the same contract same salary, so Martin shouldn’t be too annoyed
I think Ducati took Mark the older great rider to get what they can out of his last few years, then they think they can throw enough money at Jorge down the road to entice him back. Indeed the Beast needs some love and KTM is where he can find it. You gentlemen are great!!!
My opinion is that Ducati leadership absolutely will be "guarded" with upgrades for Jorge. I don't put it past them to do whatever is required for Jorge not to win this year's championship. Pecco is the corporate golden boy. Cast your mind back to Jorge's tire debacle from last year, or Bastianini suddenly " loosing grip " and dropping back to let Pecco through.. Just my opinion.
You have to bear in mind that a big part of the decision is how dangerous the rider is that you're letting go. Marc would be dangerous on any top level bike, whether it be Ducati, KTM or Aprilia. He has demonstrated that he can make a difference so long as he isn't on a complete dog, Martin has not done this. For all we know Martin on an Aprilia could just be marginally better than Maverick. He's already shown a tendency to criticise the bike, the tyres etc if things don't go his way and we've only ever seen him on THE bike to have. Plus Marc is just more marketable, love him or hate him, he's the man that is making MotoGP worth watching.
Been watching MotoGp since 2006, after so many years it finally clicked its Tech Trois, because they are a 🇫🇷 team & 3 is trois. For 18 years I thought is Tech Touarr. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Absolutely the right decision. Marc is clearly still the best and quickest rider out there, and the most marketable without a doubt. Look at how Marc is able to compete with Bagnaia and Martin despite riding the basic GP23, not the one that Bagnaia or Martin fought for the title with. He also keeps finishing around 8s ahead of the next best GP23. Also, this is Marc's first year on a Ducati, so imagine him on the latest Ducati next year, pure domination. You simply cannot ignore all of that, especially when you have Aprilia and KTM snapping at their heels. Martin has had his chances in 2022, but he lost to Bastianini in the championship, then lost again to Bagnaia in 2023 despite riding the same bike. So he has had his chances, not to mention Martin's tantrums and ultimatums haven't helped his cause. Marc without a doubt deserves the factory ride, and with Bastianini and Martin on their way out, Bagnaia won't have other GP25s getting in between him and Marc, so it will be even easier for Marc to beat him. Marc will be cheaper cause he doesn't need money, he'll bring in more money and sponsors, and he has more potential than Martin with a year old bike and less support than Martin gets, Marc is on his pace. Absolutely no brainer, just announce it already! If and when Marc is announced, just wait and see the tantrums that Martin will throw at Ducati.
Dukati knows Martin and Enea can be replaced they are great rider but not a the level of marq, yes marq is old but they know if they can still have the best bike after M marq retired they know itis not impossible to get pedro if KTM can't give him the winning bike. If pecco can't beat martin in championship soon and marq can keep that gap small Ducati might don something to marq so that he cna have the best bike this year only just to get the NO 1
I think the difference between GP25 and GP24 will be not that big and in 2025 riders with old bike (GP24 )will be in good position again like in 2022 and 2023
@@johnnycajon4858 Not sure why so many assume Aldeguer will get a GP25 bike. At this point in the Moto2 season it doesn't seem warranted TBH. He may struggle to finish in the top 3 in points!
People don't give marc the respect he deserves. The horrendous injuries he has suffered, could have just walked away or went for the paycheck, yet he has sacrificed tens of millions for the opportunity to win.
Marc beat him on a year older bike which he had just cocked his leg over starting from way back the grid. He brings with him millions in sponsorship money and TV time. It was a no brainer for Ducati. One thing is for sure Matin won't win the Championship, he will now be riding a parts bin special, no new parts for him. No shared data. Marc's bike on the other hand will being getting better.
“No shared data” utter nonsense Most of his sponsors clash with Ducati’s As Ducati management stated Marc has as many fans that hate him as love him, it’s his ability to win us the WC not commercial reasons
Ducati had a chance to put Marc in gresini on gp25 but they didn't which means only one thing Ducati thinks Martin has no chance against Marc on Gp 25 let alone in Aprilia or Ktm 😂
I would go even further... Would Ducati rather lose marc ou martin to another brand? They see marcs data and they know he would be a threat on a ktm. So they choose Marc so that other teams cant have Him.
They didn’t have a Factory bike for Gresini, Claudio Domenicali was asked at Mugello would Ducati supply an extra Factory bike for Marc at Gresini, That wasn’t possible was his reply
@@LanoLourenco If I were Ducati boss I would think like this "Marc is better than Martin and he will be better than Martin for next 2/3 years (2025,2026,2027). After that period with Marc we can sign better guys than Martin, Acosta or Fabio Q., we don't need Martin".
I'm really curious to see if Ducati drops Monster Energy to get Marc or Marc drops his personal sponsors to ride a Ducati. I just saw his story, he's still rocking Red Bull on his helmet despite of being signed with Ducati.
Ducati had to sign Marquez, he has clearly recovered from the injuries, and is nowhere near his ceiling, yet battling with a old spec GP23 with these great GP24's Any team would sign him. This isnt a 40 yar old lewis they are signing. Marc is clearly still in his peak/prime window, he still has a good few years barring injuries
Haha... 2018 and 2019 Ducati had better bike than Honda and Marc destroyed him. And you think that 35+ years old who retired 3 years ago can beat Marc on same bike in 2025 😂 Come on...
Eight Ducati on the grid is the main ingredient of Ducati's success. Get rid of at least one Ducati satellite team or give the others six teams. Things would change in a hurry that way.
There are other Jorge Martins. The only other potential Marc Marquez rides a KTM. I know Jorge fans don't like to hear this. If he was as good as Marc, he would've won the championship last year. Remember 2016? You should go back and watch some GPs. Especially Argentina. Out of corners on the straights, the Honda was being swallowed up by Yamaha. Jorge Martin would never have won that year. It took Marc Marquez to win it.
Sociopathic traits consistent with Muck Muckez: 1) sociopathic deadpan stare / dead eyes 2) put-on personality / fake attempts to impersonate likeability 3) total disregard for others and lack of real empathy / enjoyment regarding dangerous activity that could harm others 4) enjoyment at attention / chaos / disrupting other riders (lip licking, laughing at inopportune moments at the demise of someone else) 5) inability to stop competing even for non-competitive events or situations 6) ease of lying / lying to derive benefit 7) refusal to verbalise an apology when required 8) lack of facial expression and inability to feel or express real emotions 9) lacks sense to apply or interpret morality or morally acceptable behaviour 10) moulds public behaviours to avoid negative attention
The simple truth is MM sells more bikes than Martin. Even if Martin was champion 2 times in a row and MM was 3rd place each yr as the ducati man, they sell more bikes.
The days of winning on Sunday and selling on Monday are long gone If you’re spreading £40k on a bike it’s got nothing to do with who rides it in Motogp
When marq to Gresini gigi already decide whos got the seat, cmon, only dumb people Will let marq go and gigi's not dumb. My question now, since Martin and enea gone, Will they help marq with full factory support to win this season if peco cant rather then let Martin or enea win
I hope Martin takes the #1 plate to Aprilia and destroys Ducati in 2025. The disrespect Ducati has shown Martin is unbelievable. Let's Go Martin!!! And I hope Maverick leaves and Enea is next to Martin on the Aprilia. Let's go Enea!!! Mir and Miller to GasGas, just don't mix up the monogrammed gear 😅 If Olivera wants to leave then I hope Trackhouse finds a way to get Fabio Digi or Bezz, that would be awesome.
Why do you guys have to make a news of everything? It is logical and obvious Pramac will stay with Ducati. Everything else including the podcast doesn't add any more value.
We’ve literally talked about the things in the news. When the general manager of Ducati (Gigi) says that it’s a risk that Pramac might leave, surely that’s news worthy? It’s hardly fabricated when he’s actually said it.
Surely Ducati will play dirty now with Martin because they do not want the #1 to go to another company. Like the last year the spoke to Pramac to keep Martin behind Bagnia. Ducati are a cheap company where they took advantage of all the concessions and now don't want the Japanese rivals to get concessions. Gigi and Tardosi are bad sportsmen. I truly hope Martin takes the #1 to another company.
Simple answer. They want his fame, marketability...and...they want trouble haha! Possible bs between Pecco and MM, and def Pecco's teacher Rossi won't be exactly excited for next year. Hopefully MM doesn't have another mind blowing crash and destroys any of his previous surgeries, or that could also be an issue.
I think we all forgot a few things. We are not sure if Martin left because he thought Marc was getting the seat or Ducati didn't pay him what he asked.
If it was the former then Martin did the right thing. He has to make money too.
But if it was the latter then Ducati had the easiest option, getting the almost best on grid, for lesser than what Martin asked, who can also sell your merchandise, one of the strongest team in MotoGP history, may be clench the remaining 1000cc titles, whether Marc or Pecco, they still win.
Whether you like Marc or not, he's money, he's the entertainment, he's the attraction for now. Just like Rossi was, Pedro is going to be.
Although Martin ethically deserved it, the world lives on Survival of the fittest.
If Marc/Pecco do not perform well, they'll sack them too. It's a hard pill to digest.
Nothing to do with money, Ducati decided after the Mugello race it was Marquez
According to Dall’Igna nothing to do with marketing, “there’s as many fans hate Marc as love him”
It was purely a sporting decision for our aim of winning the world championship
you can't tell this to the yellow clowns. marc lives rent-free in their heads since 2015, but they forgot, that since then marc changed a lot.
You can clearly see in this year that Marc entertains regularly every weekend and not just during the races.
You are 1000% correct
Best MotoGP panel yet again!
Too kind! Thanks
Marc Marquez has all the cards. Not only did he get the factory seat but all of the riders got purged except Pecco. It looks like it will be either him or Pecco unless some other manufacturer step up the game for next season.
A lot of talent and not enough seats. Martin just got unlucky circumstances. I wish him success with aprilia.
Ducati have the data and they chose Marc, they are confirming what those of us without yellow tinted glases know..that hes still the best rider on the grid. Then theres his popularity and marketing strength...when i saw Audi giving Marc a new RS6 it looked like it was always going to be Marc. Love him or hate him its definitely more spicy with Marc at the top end mising it with the 24 Ducatis
In 2019, Álvaro Bautista while comfortably leading the WSBK Championship, signed with Honda. He was hoping to take the No 1 plate with him to Honda. Ducati made sure that never happened.
Conspiracies Conspiracies everywhere!!
Would you mind telling me what they did? I didn't follow WSBK then, but I got curious since Bautista drives for them again? Personally if I got fucked over i wouldn't go back to the team that made sure I'm not winning. Thanks!
@@bennys13
Nothing he crashed too many times and the Ducati had its rev limit lowered by the FIM
I wonder if Marc smelled Yamaha going to Pramac, and that's the reason he flat out refused to go there.
He knew Ducati wanted him, knew the plan was to put him with Pramac and keep Martin in the Factory team
He called their bluff refused to ride for Pramac
Ducati now had to give him the Factory seat or lose him, it worked
Remember this is a very calculated man, he said before all this played out he had a plan
Why would Ducati put him to Pramac if they thought Pramac was going to Yamaha
Makes absolutely no sense their main aim was to get him on their bike in 2025
Doesn't Pramac riders are signed directly to Ducati? Hypothetically speaking, even if Pramac decided to go with Yamaha. Marc would still be with Ducati.
And probably, Pramac wouldn't go there because they have Marc on-board.
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If Marc agreed to ride for Pramac then Martin could have still got the Factory ride, Ducati wanted to keep both of them but they both wanted the Factory seat
Marc knew exactly what he was doing stating he wouldn’t join Pramac
Marc didn't want to go to Pramac mainly for personal reasons I reckon. I wouldn't like to go to a team where I know I won't be comfortable and it will be tension 24/7, so it's clearly that Pramac is not an option for him, and like he said "To go to a satelite team, I stay in the one I'm in" 😊
thinking Maverick might be leaving, dont know , you're right a lot will depend on what Pramac does... so many riders left to sign contract, i expect things will happen soon for most, Enea next yeah. Re Honda, makes you think they've prob been in trouble for a long time, but with Marc "riding around the problems" it seems as thought all their problems are new, they arent. as always cheers guys for your pods!
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I'm a huge MM93 fan but it really was sad to hear Ducati chose against The Martinator. He really deserved the seat. I hope everything goes very very well at Aprillia for him. Poor guy.
The coverage was excellent. The teams and riders were covered. The VR46 getting the latest spec bike sounds good. Maverick going to Honda. Mm yeh. But the money sounds good.
Thanks George!
I think I have the same wallpaper as the guy on the right haha 😛. Don’t know everyone’s names. Great podcast though. These are my go too guys.
Hahaha, I’ll pass that on to Rob 😂
Enea is loved in italy 🇮🇹 be very good for any non Italian manufacturer to have him on their bike 💯
I'm sure he will help to sell a ton of those KTM superbikes...
Oh wait...
@@sburns2421you know most Italians don't ride superbikes. If he one a world championship on a KTM they'd sell a shit ton of smaller spec bikes with race livery.
When Max was winning all those 250cc world championships Aprilia (Piaggio) were selling a race livery scooter which was extremely popular.
@@sburns2421
That’s you told🤫🤫🤫
Superbikes don’t sell anywhere anymore all naked’s and adventure bikes, now who sells shedloads of them?
Why is no one linked with Pramac? they still have the factory bike..is it because of the Yamaha rumors
I've read that Campinotti isn't happy on what's happening around. That there is sporting and personal disappointment towards Ducati. So it's possible that they would jumpship to Yamaha next year. And I think that would be great to see less Ducati bikes and Yamaha have a satellite team again to at least even out the grid and help Yamaha to sort their bike faster for having 2 extra database.
Martin got told on the Sunday night I understand... I think Marc said it
Good upload guys!! Keep it up
Thank you! Will do!
Great work guys
Thank you!
So if Jorge wins the championship does the #1 go to Appriia, I think it does?
It’s the rider’s preference for number choice. So if wanted to run number 1 (if he wins the title) he can use it at Aprilia next season.
He should run the #1 if he earns it. Might be his only chance for a few years.
He isn't winning shit 😂
This talk about consistency, Who does it will win the championship. Marquez,Pecco or Martin
The championship number belongs to the rider. If he wins he'll go into next year as the number one rider. It's then up to him if he uses it like Pecco or puts it on his leathers, or doesn't use it at all.
Lots of interesting things happening. Me, I don't see Martin ever winning a MotoGP title as he is too mentally weak under pressure. This showed in Moto2 as well as 2022 with the Bastianini decision - Basta 3rd, earning the title and Martin 9th (?). Last year was Martins best chance of a title and without doubt he blew it all on his own. I am not too sure if Ducati would have moved Martin if he won last year as they made a committment to Bastianini shortly after he was taken out that all he had to do was to get well and back to form for this year. With Martin jumping ship he will not get the new parts so will not get any new upgrades that Pecco and Basta will. It is even possible since Pramac is rumored to be going to Yamaha for 2025 even though they confirmed their deal with Ducati that Franki will not get anything new either.
Will going down to 850cc engines be good for the current moto 2 riders?
As you have pointed out - interesting times. Here's what I think might be possible: Pramac - seeing that Yamaha seem to be moving in the right direction take the big payday and bank on that seeming improvement being continued. Vinales to Honda is career suicide given he needs a friendly environment and a bike he feels confident on to perform at his best. However Vinales on a year old Ducati at Gresini or Pramac (if they don't sign with Yamaha) seems more realistic. He might not like the feeling he will have to play 2nd fiddle to Martin next year - but if he is reassured he will get even treatment (which makes sense for Aprilia given he now knows the bike and is performing on it) I think he will stay. Ennea to Gas Gas makes sense for him since he will get works rider status there (KTM have more or less implied that will be how the 4 bikes will be equally supported). Miller does not want to be anywhere not giving him the potential to be fighting up at the front - he won't want to be playing with the tail-senders even for a massive payday; so it makes sense to go to Gas Gas if offered the chance. That would give KTM a 4 bike team of proven fast riders. That leaves Aprilia's second team - Trackhouse. It seems that Fernandez is started to find some form on the old spec bike and he is still young. The other seat is also a question mark. Here's a out of left field suggestion you guys didn't consider - Iannone. Andrea has demonstrated he is still a fast rider in WSBK and has suggested there are possibly Moto GP options open for him. Could Trackhouse be one of them? Personally I would like to see Pramac go to Yamaha; Ennea and Miller to Gas Gas; Vinales stay with Aprilia; and Joe Roberts to Trackhouse IF he keeps winning or at least making the podium; Iannone if he doesn't. Wouldn't that make for a great 2025!
Will Dorna want a banned drug cheat back in the Motogp paddock
Highly unlikely, more than enough good riders looking for seats
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You guys act like Martin must be given the same upgrades as Pecco because Pramac has a factory bike. I would just like to remind you all that last year once Zarco announced his move to Honda, he was not given the updates that Martin, Pecco and Bastinini got in 2H even though he was supposed to have a factory bike. Also the year before Martin and zarco had a different spec bike which was a 2022 bike and pecco/Jack had in-between spec between 21 and 22
Even without upgrades the bike is still good enough to win
It will be no holds barred racing the test of the season
The bike will still be good enough to win
For a change - what are your thoughts regarding Gressini feelings?
Great upload
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I have a feeling Marc will be ahead of Jorge by the end of the year
because Marc can adapt to GP 23 very quickly, and we have to know that the GP 23 that Marc uses is last year's GP 23 on Zarco's motorbike, not the GP 23 on Pecco's motorbike which has won the 2023 title. Not only that, Marc have big value than Martin on market. Ducati know this person is different. Martin and Enea is very good rider but Marc is on another level.
Great podcast, covered everything
Thank you!
How about Iannone to Pramac with Fermin Aldeguer?
Why Iannone and not Alvaro Bautista? Bro, Iannone is 35 years old 😂
I'm thinking that once Iannone gets a few more races in (hasn't raced in 4 years and never on those tires) he could again prove that he's still GP material and or a candidate for Bautista's seat. If Ducati had kept him instead of Dovi he might have given Marquez a harder time. You're right, he is 34 but Bautista turns 40 in November and it sounds like he may be ready to spend more time with his family. Just thought that Ducati/Pramac could get him for a relatively low salary and that he'd bring sponsors and Ducati experience to the team.
The Iannone back to MotoGP smells of a rumor started by his manager with no basis in reality.
But who knows? Give him a day on a Trackhouse Ape and see if he is better than Fernandez.
A drug cheat will never race in Motogp again
Plenty more eligible guys waiting to move up from the lower classes
MM is the Right choice
Being a "factory rider" must have a huge allure that I don't really understand. A Ducati under Bastianini would give him the best chance at wins over the second KTM factory team. Maybe the money is vastly different.
Perhaps he just wants a change of scenery etc. KTM is a great option still
Maybe its a statistical thing, how many riders in the modern era won on a satelite bike? Only Rossi (nastru azurro).
Being on a factory ride will always be a bit better, even if just 1% i guess
Money is bound to be better, but I think it's more a case of "giving yourself the best chance" thinking.
Being with a factory will mean all the best parts, support and research, giving you the best chance of winning on that particular machine...as well as you ride it, I suppose
@@LanoLourenco
Rossi’s bike was Full Factory Honda with Full Factory backing, they had to set up a one man team for Rossi as both Repsol seats were already taken
Every man and his dog accepts it wasn’t a satellite team
@@martinboodukofi3
Bastianini and Martin’ contacts were the same, when Bastianini got the Factory ride over Martin, Paolo Ciabatti confirmed in an interview they had the same contract same salary, so Martin shouldn’t be too annoyed
Hi you guys should discuss the implications for RED BULL with marquez going to the Ducati factory team.
I think Ducati took Mark the older great rider to get what they can out of his last few years, then they think they can throw enough money at Jorge down the road to entice him back. Indeed the Beast needs some love and KTM is where he can find it.
You gentlemen are great!!!
My opinion is that Ducati leadership absolutely will be "guarded" with upgrades for Jorge. I don't put it past them to do whatever is required for Jorge not to win this year's championship. Pecco is the corporate golden boy. Cast your mind back to Jorge's tire debacle from last year, or Bastianini suddenly " loosing grip " and dropping back to let Pecco through..
Just my opinion.
Chaos - good news.
You have to bear in mind that a big part of the decision is how dangerous the rider is that you're letting go.
Marc would be dangerous on any top level bike, whether it be Ducati, KTM or Aprilia. He has demonstrated that he can make a difference so long as he isn't on a complete dog, Martin has not done this.
For all we know Martin on an Aprilia could just be marginally better than Maverick. He's already shown a tendency to criticise the bike, the tyres etc if things don't go his way and we've only ever seen him on THE bike to have.
Plus Marc is just more marketable, love him or hate him, he's the man that is making MotoGP worth watching.
Forza Marc
Marc is worth 0.5 Sec. Nuff said.
Been watching MotoGp since 2006, after so many years it finally clicked its Tech Trois, because they are a 🇫🇷 team & 3 is trois. For 18 years I thought is Tech Touarr. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Absolutely the right decision. Marc is clearly still the best and quickest rider out there, and the most marketable without a doubt. Look at how Marc is able to compete with Bagnaia and Martin despite riding the basic GP23, not the one that Bagnaia or Martin fought for the title with. He also keeps finishing around 8s ahead of the next best GP23. Also, this is Marc's first year on a Ducati, so imagine him on the latest Ducati next year, pure domination. You simply cannot ignore all of that, especially when you have Aprilia and KTM snapping at their heels. Martin has had his chances in 2022, but he lost to Bastianini in the championship, then lost again to Bagnaia in 2023 despite riding the same bike. So he has had his chances, not to mention Martin's tantrums and ultimatums haven't helped his cause. Marc without a doubt deserves the factory ride, and with Bastianini and Martin on their way out, Bagnaia won't have other GP25s getting in between him and Marc, so it will be even easier for Marc to beat him. Marc will be cheaper cause he doesn't need money, he'll bring in more money and sponsors, and he has more potential than Martin with a year old bike and less support than Martin gets, Marc is on his pace. Absolutely no brainer, just announce it already! If and when Marc is announced, just wait and see the tantrums that Martin will throw at Ducati.
Dukati knows Martin and Enea can be replaced they are great rider but not a the level of marq, yes marq is old but they know if they can still have the best bike after M marq retired they know itis not impossible to get pedro if KTM can't give him the winning bike.
If pecco can't beat martin in championship soon and marq can keep that gap small Ducati might don something to marq so that he cna have the best bike this year only just to get the NO 1
I think the difference between GP25 and GP24 will be not that big and in 2025 riders with old bike (GP24 )will be in good position again like in 2022 and 2023
Fermín Aldeguer to Gresini or Pramac?
@@johnnycajon4858 Not sure why so many assume Aldeguer will get a GP25 bike. At this point in the Moto2 season it doesn't seem warranted TBH. He may struggle to finish in the top 3 in points!
@@sburns2421
He and his team are having trouble adapting to the new Pirelli tyres
@@johnnycajon4858
Yea lots of people said the same thing about Fabio Quartararo
People don't give marc the respect he deserves. The horrendous injuries he has suffered, could have just walked away or went for the paycheck, yet he has sacrificed tens of millions for the opportunity to win.
Marc beat him on a year older bike which he had just cocked his leg over starting from way back the grid. He brings with him millions in sponsorship money and TV time. It was a no brainer for Ducati. One thing is for sure Matin won't win the Championship, he will now be riding a parts bin special, no new parts for him. No shared data. Marc's bike on the other hand will being getting better.
“No shared data” utter nonsense
Most of his sponsors clash with Ducati’s
As Ducati management stated Marc has as many fans that hate him as love him, it’s his ability to win us the WC not commercial reasons
Id like to see Marquez get the upgrade and then see him start interfering with Bagnaias results.
Ducati had a chance to put Marc in gresini on gp25 but they didn't which means only one thing Ducati thinks Martin has no chance against Marc on Gp 25 let alone in Aprilia or Ktm 😂
I agree with you 100%
I would go even further...
Would Ducati rather lose marc ou martin to another brand? They see marcs data and they know he would be a threat on a ktm.
So they choose Marc so that other teams cant have Him.
They didn’t have a Factory bike for Gresini, Claudio Domenicali was asked at Mugello would Ducati supply an extra Factory bike for Marc at Gresini, That wasn’t possible was his reply
@@LanoLourenco
If I were Ducati boss I would think like this "Marc is better than Martin and he will be better than Martin for next 2/3 years (2025,2026,2027). After that period with Marc we can sign better guys than Martin, Acosta or Fabio Q., we don't need Martin".
@@LanoLourenco What does it cost to keep Marc vs what does it cost to beat Marc.
By the time next year comes around, well lets just say Pedro Acosta if KTM has a decent bike- the rest will be chasing 2nd.
An hour podcasts?? Ugh!
I cant afford to pay that much attention! 😅
You can always just download our audio version on Spotify or Apple Podcasts and listen to it in the background 😉
Here's a wildcard. Ya one comes back to Motogp grad and signs with HRC!!
that's supposed to be Andra Iannone
I'm really curious to see if Ducati drops Monster Energy to get Marc or Marc drops his personal sponsors to ride a Ducati. I just saw his story, he's still rocking Red Bull on his helmet despite of being signed with Ducati.
Just have to wait and see!
He’s signed with Gresini until the end of this year so nothing will change this year
So has Bastianini signed for KTM it was reported last week his manger had confirmed it
Nothing official yet, but it’s pretty much done.
@@CrashMotoGP
Ok, so just not from KTM
Are they trying to change the lineup? Now with the rumoured 4 KTMs next year
Ducati had to sign Marquez, he has clearly recovered from the injuries, and is nowhere near his ceiling, yet battling with a old spec GP23 with these great GP24's
Any team would sign him. This isnt a 40 yar old lewis they are signing. Marc is clearly still in his peak/prime window, he still has a good few years barring injuries
Miller could do for HRC what Pedrosa did for KTM.
They have made huge steps since Jack came on board, I kinda wish Martin signed with them!
Would Ducati use Marquez to foil Martin's Championship run to benefit Bagnaia? You know Marquez would be happy to follow that team order.
Franco Morbidelli to WSBK and Dovi comes back to Pramac on a 2025 bike and crushes all of Marc Marquez's hopes and dreams.
Delusions. Maybe 5 years ago. Dovi rode the Yamaha in '21 or'22 and reiterated that he retired at the right time.
Prikki = Prick
Haha... 2018 and 2019 Ducati had better bike than Honda and Marc destroyed him. And you think that 35+ years old who retired 3 years ago can beat Marc on same bike in 2025 😂 Come on...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Only Stoner can stop MM....
Eight Ducati on the grid is the main ingredient of Ducati's success. Get rid of at least one Ducati satellite team or give the others six teams. Things would change in a hurry that way.
There are other Jorge Martins. The only other potential Marc Marquez rides a KTM. I know Jorge fans don't like to hear this. If he was as good as Marc, he would've won the championship last year. Remember 2016? You should go back and watch some GPs. Especially Argentina. Out of corners on the straights, the Honda was being swallowed up by Yamaha. Jorge Martin would never have won that year. It took Marc Marquez to win it.
Surtees to MZ and Agostini to Bimota!
Ducati will be sick if Martin takes the number 1 to !
Sociopathic traits consistent with Muck Muckez:
1) sociopathic deadpan stare / dead eyes
2) put-on personality / fake attempts to impersonate likeability
3) total disregard for others and lack of real empathy / enjoyment regarding dangerous activity that could harm others
4) enjoyment at attention / chaos / disrupting other riders (lip licking, laughing at inopportune moments at the demise of someone else)
5) inability to stop competing even for non-competitive events or situations
6) ease of lying / lying to derive benefit
7) refusal to verbalise an apology when required
8) lack of facial expression and inability to feel or express real emotions
9) lacks sense to apply or interpret morality or morally acceptable behaviour
10) moulds public behaviours to avoid negative attention
It would be a disasters for Ducati if marc goes to other manufacturer.
The simple truth is MM sells more bikes than Martin. Even if Martin was champion 2 times in a row and MM was 3rd place each yr as the ducati man, they sell more bikes.
The days of winning on Sunday and selling on Monday are long gone
If you’re spreading £40k on a bike it’s got nothing to do with who rides it in Motogp
When marq to Gresini gigi already decide whos got the seat, cmon, only dumb people Will let marq go and gigi's not dumb. My question now, since Martin and enea gone, Will they help marq with full factory support to win this season if peco cant rather then let Martin or enea win
Anyone knows how much money Marc will be getting from Ducati factory team next year.??
Ducati doing what DORNA told them to do !
Brcause they treat people badly.
I hope Martin takes the #1 plate to Aprilia and destroys Ducati in 2025. The disrespect Ducati has shown Martin is unbelievable. Let's Go Martin!!! And I hope Maverick leaves and Enea is next to Martin on the Aprilia. Let's go Enea!!!
Mir and Miller to GasGas, just don't mix up the monogrammed gear 😅
If Olivera wants to leave then I hope Trackhouse finds a way to get Fabio Digi or Bezz, that would be awesome.
Haha salty ✊🏻💦😂😂😂😂
Fan of the Grooming Gang Gravel Boys 😂😂😂😂
Jorge Martin MotoGP career:
-2021, newest Ducati, 1 win
-2022,newest Ducati, 0 wins
-2023,newest Ducati, 4 wins
-2024,newest Ducati, won 2/7
-2025,factory Aprilia, 0 wins
Marc Marquez 2025 Ducati:
-more wins in 2025 than Martin from 2021-2024
@@damirdamir1180 Crystal Ball from Amazon ??? (and Sprints are a race)
56:51 Nope. Haven't covered everything. No mention of the other unsigned dark horse - Alex Rins!
Alex is finished
Why didn't Marc want to go to Pramac............2025 Yamaha.
It was a calculated gamble, he knew by refusing to ride for Pramac there was only one option left for Ducati
He won
Why do you guys have to make a news of everything? It is logical and obvious Pramac will stay with Ducati. Everything else including the podcast doesn't add any more value.
We’ve literally talked about the things in the news. When the general manager of Ducati (Gigi) says that it’s a risk that Pramac might leave, surely that’s news worthy? It’s hardly fabricated when he’s actually said it.
Surely Ducati will play dirty now with Martin because they do not want the #1 to go to another company. Like the last year the spoke to Pramac to keep Martin behind Bagnia. Ducati are a cheap company where they took advantage of all the concessions and now don't want the Japanese rivals to get concessions. Gigi and Tardosi are bad sportsmen. I truly hope Martin takes the #1 to another company.
Simple answer. They want his fame, marketability...and...they want trouble haha! Possible bs between Pecco and MM, and def Pecco's teacher Rossi won't be exactly excited for next year. Hopefully MM doesn't have another mind blowing crash and destroys any of his previous surgeries, or that could also be an issue.
Aprilia is a good bike. Martin going to give the Dukes a hard time. The fact he tested the signed says it all.
A wouldn't let Vinales ride ma boys scooter
Vinales is the pre season winner and always goes quick when he has no contract 😂
Jimmy saville would ride yer boy
Garry Glitter would ride yer boy
One word...GREED!
'aGREED!!