Also this is where I got my white forest sleeves! item.taobao.com/item.htm?abbucket=5&id=784567667808&ns=1&priceTId=2100c80417278264175026326e0bf0&skuId=5529234675992&spm=a21n57.1.item.2.5aa6523c87Vj9o&utparam=%7B%22aplus_abtest%22%3A%22a0c06ba7bd19aff1e73c502aad7a8148%22%7D&xxc=taobaoSearch
@@KamonYGO bc the white forest are effects that start chains. Diabellstar is just an inherent summon that doesn’t start a chain. Now if you run something like dragoon and send a white forest spell from hand to negate something, it would trigger them for that bc it was to activate a monster effect.
@@supskyalr as sups explained its an inherent summon this means the discard is not a cost to activate an effect it is rather a summoning condition; other examples to think of are the kaijus tributing an unaffected monster in this case the summoning condition is to tribute your opponents monster and considering this is not an effect but rather a condition that needs to be met you can get rid of unaffected monsters; hope this furthe clarifies the confusion; yugioh has a lot of weird small interaction that can be very confusing at times Been looking into this deck looks like a blast now that my beloved azamina snakeeyes got killed just on the fence whether to wait for the SUDA support as I might cut astellar to 1 so looking up all kinds of deck profiles :D
i recommend scarlight as an extra option. helps break boards, burn dmg in time, and is also a dark. can let you hard make chaos angel on your turn using both light and dark if you need to
I took a step back form this deck to focus on other things, it’s scary taking the centurion cards out but this was a good primer to experiment and find out what the deck can do
I see you on the list, mane! This is similar to mine, but I put the one Diabellze in the list precisely for the Runick Match-up and she's basically free
@KamonYGO She's searchable with Subdual and it can be used to bounce White Woods cards or Deception when they get re-set to protect them. It's ALSO a sinful spoils card that can be used as material. It's somewhat of a brick but rounds out the recovery of the deck
Loving the Azamina package. I was on centurion but it feels win more and after playing it, all it did in actual play was make Chaos Angel as a wall for Tenpai. Played Azamina-WF-Toy at locals this weekend and it's so solid. I got cracked pulls at Sneak and got my two Decpetion out of the entry packs and 2nd place packs
Rcielago is really good. being able to search debtors or wanted, then sync right into Chaos Angel is nice. if find myself summoning Rcielago way more than Ilia.
You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for you to upload this version of WH!! Question, do you believe using Nib or Fuwalos going second? Or even the one Pros? 🤘🐺
@@wolvgeekpod I think it could work yes! I’m still on the board breaker build as you can see but if I swap to hand traps those would be the main ones I use but white forest gets more advantages if you have more spells/traps!
This may be a dumb question but since ive not really ran into wf how would one even get into zapper shrimp. I really want to try this combo but whats up with the lvl 2 shrimp
Really torn on board breakers or hand traps. Tested Ghost Ogre and was seriously good in general vs rogue, and game winning vs Tenpai popping their field spell and the level 7 synchro. Ghost Mourner is also nice in the meta simply because Fire King/Snake Eye is still relevant. Feels as though there isn’t really a wrong way of playing the deck, just event/locals dependent..
I think The Mu Azamina is best with two deception IF you are playing FS. She can be used to get into moon/requiem/caesar before you get the Omni on the field. But if you aren’t playing FS it’s not as important I’m my opinion.
i'd suggest maybe dharc over lyna for the charmers if you are gonna play selene-access and since you have 3 diabellstars, gives 1 extra attribute for access to pop cuz otherwise you only have lights and must banish acces if you want a 2nd attribute. Lyna might be better on builds that play fiendsmith in order to steal your opponent's and do the combo yourself.
@@taylernoise6942 does he? I thought that but someone said the fusion has to name a specific monster for muddy to work. I.e dragoon says “dark magician”. The azaminas say “1 illusion” Or do you mean banish the 1 illusion and 1 spell caster
@@KamonYGOtry cartesia. She can also help you bridge into murciélago using rabbit(illusion) and any other spellcaster to start your Azamina plays if you didn’t open up with any.
@@RadSkeeDadYGOi thought Muddy dragon just replace a material that was declared name, example “DarkMagician” is the name of mons but Illusion is the name of architype
@@LostInfernoFireDragon if you run the trap card to get to her yea because other than that we have no real way to search her lol but I think she is super good in the ruick match up
@@KamonYGO Ive getting into WF lately, really like this profile (the quality of the camera is good imho) just started getting these cards in anticipation of SUDA with the crazy new l2 that bridges Azamina and WF directly, very excited for that set
@@MrWelsz sooooo you want me to run more toy solider when it does nothing on its own? the cards you just named have major value also you didn't hear me in the video when I said "im only running susurrus until my other deception gets here"
@@KamonYGO none of those cards i named do anything on their own lol if you're high rolling on drawing diabelstar you should run the perfect cost for it or you're just negging I recommend you to check BimYGO's videos on azamina white forest
@@MrWelsz I watch his vids all the time actually. Your argument for running more toy solider's just to get more value from black witch isn't enough for me yes toy solider is the best card to send off of black witch but again I don't want to run more bricks in the deck just to try and get that value. The cards you mentioned are still spell cards and like I said many of times in my videos(if you even watch them) any and every spell card with any white forest monster is still full combo/value again I understand WHY you want to run more toy solider but believe it or not in this NEW build with the NEW azamina cards it's not needed at more than 1
Also this is where I got my white forest sleeves! item.taobao.com/item.htm?abbucket=5&id=784567667808&ns=1&priceTId=2100c80417278264175026326e0bf0&skuId=5529234675992&spm=a21n57.1.item.2.5aa6523c87Vj9o&utparam=%7B%22aplus_abtest%22%3A%22a0c06ba7bd19aff1e73c502aad7a8148%22%7D&xxc=taobaoSearch
3:56 diabellstar would not trigger the white forest spells in gy bc sending them to grave is part of her summoning condition not her effect.
@@supskyalr that has always been confusing to me because the spell cards trigger with the white forest monsters and they’re all costs
@@KamonYGO bc the white forest are effects that start chains. Diabellstar is just an inherent summon that doesn’t start a chain. Now if you run something like dragoon and send a white forest spell from hand to negate something, it would trigger them for that bc it was to activate a monster effect.
Now diabellstar with toy soldier😮💨👌🏼
It's extremely frustrating but I understand why the cards work that way lore-wise lol
@@supskyalr as sups explained its an inherent summon this means the discard is not a cost to activate an effect it is rather a summoning condition; other examples to think of are the kaijus tributing an unaffected monster in this case the summoning condition is to tribute your opponents monster and considering this is not an effect but rather a condition that needs to be met you can get rid of unaffected monsters; hope this furthe clarifies the confusion; yugioh has a lot of weird small interaction that can be very confusing at times
Been looking into this deck looks like a blast now that my beloved azamina snakeeyes got killed just on the fence whether to wait for the SUDA support as I might cut astellar to 1 so looking up all kinds of deck profiles :D
I personally think one or two deception is correct. Three can be cloggy.
i recommend scarlight as an extra option. helps break boards, burn dmg in time, and is also a dark. can let you hard make chaos angel on your turn using both light and dark if you need to
yea when I post my updated list ill make some changes!
I took a step back form this deck to focus on other things, it’s scary taking the centurion cards out but this was a good primer to experiment and find out what the deck can do
it's never a bad thing to step out of your comfort zone!
Background music is lovely🎉
I see you on the list, mane! This is similar to mine, but I put the one Diabellze in the list precisely for the Runick Match-up and she's basically free
@@anthill350 I want to play her but I have no way to like search her lol
@KamonYGO She's searchable with Subdual and it can be used to bounce White Woods cards or Deception when they get re-set to protect them. It's ALSO a sinful spoils card that can be used as material. It's somewhat of a brick but rounds out the recovery of the deck
@@anthill350 oooo I’ll look into it!
This deck list clean I’m try it out
Loving the Azamina package. I was on centurion but it feels win more and after playing it, all it did in actual play was make Chaos Angel as a wall for Tenpai.
Played Azamina-WF-Toy at locals this weekend and it's so solid. I got cracked pulls at Sneak and got my two Decpetion out of the entry packs and 2nd place packs
I really think 2 toy soldier is the way because opening it with Diabell gets your rolling fast.
I can see it being played at 2 but I really like the 1 because I hate opening up with it lol
@@KamonYGO do you feel like the low monster count prevents you from seeing any of your starters?
@@hanzothephantom2784 not really no but if you want to run a bit more you can but it may conflict
Black witch is an inherrent special summon, so you cant chain block the s/t white forest cards
yup just found out!
Rcielago is really good. being able to search debtors or wanted, then sync right into Chaos Angel is nice. if find myself summoning Rcielago way more than Ilia.
Susurruss does not re-set itself if you pitch it to fuse with deception. it only does that if it was pitched for a MONSTER effect.
like I said it's only in here until my 2nd deception gets here
You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for you to upload this version of WH!! Question, do you believe using Nib or Fuwalos going second? Or even the one Pros? 🤘🐺
@@wolvgeekpod I think it could work yes! I’m still on the board breaker build as you can see but if I swap to hand traps those would be the main ones I use but white forest gets more advantages if you have more spells/traps!
@@KamonYGO I appreciate the response, thank you 🙏 keep it up man 🦾🐺
Camera looks good
This may be a dumb question but since ive not really ran into wf how would one even get into zapper shrimp. I really want to try this combo but whats up with the lvl 2 shrimp
you summon it from your diablez
Ah thank you ive had the cards just never really read them since i put wf on the back burner till now.@KamonYGO
Really torn on board breakers or hand traps.
Tested Ghost Ogre and was seriously good in general vs rogue, and game winning vs Tenpai popping their field spell and the level 7 synchro. Ghost Mourner is also nice in the meta simply because Fire King/Snake Eye is still relevant.
Feels as though there isn’t really a wrong way of playing the deck, just event/locals dependent..
ether or can work but I really like the board breaker build because I hate opening up with so many monsters lol
Nice video❤
I think The Mu Azamina is best with two deception IF you are playing FS. She can be used to get into moon/requiem/caesar before you get the Omni on the field. But if you aren’t playing FS it’s not as important I’m my opinion.
Even if you don't have a whole FS package, you can use her to make I:P, which only takes up one ED slot.
i'd suggest maybe dharc over lyna for the charmers if you are gonna play selene-access and since you have 3 diabellstars, gives 1 extra attribute for access to pop cuz otherwise you only have lights and must banish acces if you want a 2nd attribute. Lyna might be better on builds that play fiendsmith in order to steal your opponent's and do the combo yourself.
9:50 Not “Deb tors”, it’s debtors like somebody who owes a debt
Muddy mudragon to albion, albion gets you to azamina through 1 other spellcaster
yea i think id need a quem?
@@taylernoise6942 does he? I thought that but someone said the fusion has to name a specific monster for muddy to work. I.e dragoon says “dark magician”. The azaminas say “1 illusion”
Or do you mean banish the 1 illusion and 1 spell caster
@@taylernoise6942 I mean you could just dragoon at that point using exactly Muddy Dragon + Albion and nothing else
@@KamonYGOtry cartesia. She can also help you bridge into murciélago using rabbit(illusion) and any other spellcaster to start your Azamina plays if you didn’t open up with any.
@@RadSkeeDadYGOi thought Muddy dragon just replace a material that was declared name, example “DarkMagician” is the name of mons but Illusion is the name of architype
Combo video?
soon soon
@@KamonYGO thanks cuz im buying this and need to know the lines. This looks fun asf
@@jarenvince8905 will post soon!
Bro where did you get White Forest sleeves??! They ate FIRE
@@LukaBrčić-c1w someone at Philly regional gave them to me :)
@@KamonYGO Nooo I need to buy em haha do you know where I can buy some?
@@LukaBrčić-c1w item.taobao.com/item.htm?abbucket=5&id=784567667808&ns=1&priceTId=2100c80417278264175026326e0bf0&skuId=5529234675992&spm=a21n57.1.item.2.5aa6523c87Vj9o&utparam=%7B%22aplus_abtest%22%3A%22a0c06ba7bd19aff1e73c502aad7a8148%22%7D&xxc=taobaoSearch
Confused what Zapper Shrimp does for the deck and how you would even summon it. Is it just for Synchro Diabell to summon from ED?
ya you summon it with diabell and you use it to go into chaos angel on your opponents turn!
Go back to the old camera set up it was clear and quality! But in this video it’s blurry and feels like a 2010 RUclips video.
Can you run the sinful spoils engine in this
it's already in it! unless you mean original sinful spoils lol
@@KamonYGO that but can you also run Diabell The Original Sinkeeper in the deck
@@LostInfernoFireDragon if you run the trap card to get to her yea because other than that we have no real way to search her lol but I think she is super good in the ruick match up
@@KamonYGO thank you mostly everyone at my locals knows me as the sword soul Horus player.
Hey bro, you mind also showing combos whenever you update it please?🙏 I just got back into yugioh and still need some help 😅
@@kylevargas9856 of course! I got y’all
@@KamonYGO thank you so much!!
How do you get into the level 2 synchro in this deck ?
diabelze effect!
@@KamonYGO ahhhhhh
link for extra deck oversleeves?
@@ogtoxic5610 I’m pretty sure they’re from manna moon
@@KamonYGO thanks man
When do we can expect some white forest reprints?
@@florianschmidt5869 not too sure! The deck is super new
With ROTA Out, has White Forest outgrown Runick variants as the objectively superior build?
I think we still need more time to tell! runick MIGHT be the best version still but I realllly like the azamina stuff lol
@@KamonYGO Ive getting into WF lately, really like this profile (the quality of the camera is good imho) just started getting these cards in anticipation of SUDA with the crazy new l2 that bridges Azamina and WF directly, very excited for that set
What up though
PR 🇵🇷 🔥🔥🐺
@@lonewolvpod yooo your from PR?
@@teamrogueprborn & raised 25 years and then moved to Miami 10 years ago! Desde Guaynabo y Humacao, & you? 🐺🇵🇷🔥
@@teamroguepr yerrrrrr
@@wolvgeekpod was born and raised in Chicago but been living in pr since 17 years old
I disagree with the ratio of Toy Soldier. It is the perfect and only worthy cost for Diabelstar
nah because you can brick on it lol it's perfecttttttttttttttt at 1
@@KamonYGO my man you're running Debtors and Hallowed and Susurrus together and you talking about bricking?
@@MrWelsz sooooo you want me to run more toy solider when it does nothing on its own? the cards you just named have major value also you didn't hear me in the video when I said "im only running susurrus until my other deception gets here"
@@KamonYGO none of those cards i named do anything on their own lol if you're high rolling on drawing diabelstar you should run the perfect cost for it or you're just negging I recommend you to check BimYGO's videos on azamina white forest
@@MrWelsz I watch his vids all the time actually.
Your argument for running more toy solider's just to get more value from black witch isn't enough for me
yes toy solider is the best card to send off of black witch but again I don't want to run more bricks in the deck just to try and get that value.
The cards you mentioned are still spell cards and like I said many of times in my videos(if you even watch them) any and every spell card with any white forest monster is still full combo/value
again I understand WHY you want to run more toy solider but believe it or not in this NEW build with the NEW azamina cards it's not needed at more than 1