ruclips.net/video/AxN27F7yN-c/видео.html She updated the video, and explains it as to why. Basic is, Solid white line, you stop if red. if not you have right of way or you crash, the pedestrian would have and should have stopped. and even then she had plenty of time to pass the light even before the pedestrian entered the lane as she was slowing as she approached the light.
Sorry but no. A pedestrian is already crossing the road. As people we risk assess, whatever rules you think the instructor was right about she was completely wrong to tell the student to keep going. It’s being that kind of instructor that causes accidents. Where there is ambiguity always opt for the safest option.
@@dannyfeller7034 do you stop on the red light for the crossing traffic? Or do you keep going on your own green light as you should? The red light was for cross traffic. The driver is not cross traffic, she was turning on a green light.
Folks the pedestrian is not the point I was making. The student saw a red light and a pedestrian so decided to stop. Most folk would do exactly the same thing. The instructor then started telling the student to keep going when the vehicle was almost at a stop. Vehicles from behind, if reading the road ahead would have already slowed, so getting the student to then drive again adds confusion. It also creates confusion for the pedestrian already on the road when the instructor is telling the student to go, assuming that pedestrian is paying attention to the traffic. As motorists we have a responsibility to everything around us as what we are driving is ultimately a very dangerous machine. Rule number one, never assume. The time to raise this junction with the student was after the junction had passed and maybe have a go again. The rules here do not matter, driver risk assessment does. If you cannot risk assess the road, don’t drive.
Worse not driving if car behind expects you to, and it keeps driving as that is what makes sense to them knowing the traffic laws. At least its low speed here, so a crash wouldn’t be too hard but its the same as letting someone onto the highway or a road when you have right of way, just to be nice. You are causing an unexpected behaviour, which can lead to car collisions.
Or better yet, learn the rules in the country you’re driving in. Ignorance can be corrected with effort of learning and then no one is put out by your failure to educate yourself.
"No, that red light's not for you. That red light only applies on _Run An Old Man Down_ days. Today isn't a _Run An Old Man Down_ day, so you need to keep moving and run that old man down."
@@jolenethellama I saw somewhere that, that light was for side merging or something, well if the LIGHT IS STRAIGHT UP facing your way, it is for you, if it was sideways facing the incoming traffic it would be for them, but that light was not facing them it was facing her, so the light was for her. Also, I don't see a pedestrian light for that crossing, so ANY PEDESTRIAN crossing has the PRIORITY, then any vehicle must stop and let them cross.
Those are repeater traffic lights for the traffic waiting on the other side of the junction directly opposite the traffic lights. The lights don't apply to the learner driver because she has a green light to turn right. All you need to know is, if there isn't a stop line then you are not supposed to stop at those lights.
I am not concerned about the test what about regular driving and accidents there. Brutal design much easier in a Philippines 🇵🇭 province where they have no lights or stop signs!!
Here in NY USA even if a pedestrian is in the wrong, it does not matter. Unfortunately figured that out the hard way. They paid the bicyclist clearly in the wrong based on cameras and witnesses 100k for his stupidity lol
Never come in canada... no lights and you are supposed to stop if the line are yellow... doesn't matter if he did start to cross or not... if they are lights... you always have to stop if it's red... @hiddencabbage559
She didn't stop at a red light not really she stopped for a repeater light that doesn't apply to her also the pedestrian would not have been in the road if she kept driving as she should
@@royalgilpin4922 its because its a repeat/secondary light, at first i didnt even know why the heck it was there but its there incase the primary light doesnt work, basically just insurance. btw if theres a solid white line you have to stop at the light but if theres no white line you can pass it as if theres no light there since it wouldnt apply to you.
@@goldengames9338 a lot of the time we have fold out stop signs on our traffic lights in case the light stops working. Either that or it blinks red and acts just like a stop sign basically.
People don't realize there's only like 60 million people in England. Meanwhile America has a half billion and India has double that. All these rules feel silly until you realize England is smaller than most US states.
As a licensed driver of Texas (to Americans that’s significant (I learned to drive in Waco ifykyk)) the thought of driving in the UK is terrifying. I’ve looked at their road structure and it confuses the ever loving Jesus outta me. I’d rather drive the entirety of I-35 twice then have to figure what is happening over there with their roads
@jay340 right becwuse you grew up and learnt it, its much more complicated then Americas system and doesnt makes sense to us from what we know about our own
@@animegoodanime8125judging by the video my assumption is that the law is that you can run a red light and just send it through an intersection with wild abandon. Great job UK.
@Benjamin_Counter but from the outside looking in, it sure seems that way. Hence the sarcastic comment... which you took for a genuine assumtion (?) Now I'm making assumptions haha
@@unexpectediteminbaggingare8074 if someone rear ends you they’re almost always at fault. If they rear end you, it’s because they weren’t paying attention. The fault is on them for not paying attention to the car in front of them.
@@unexpectediteminbaggingare8074 Then they are driving incorrectly either following two closely or not paying attention. Regardless, with a light intersection like this one not having the context of the rest of the intersection, this is an easily misunderstood light, and traffic engineers should be fixing it.
@@fallenneutron2740absolutely agreed. I do have a genuine question tho. I heard that in America it’s ok to turn right on a red. If you have time please can you explain why?
@kathrynsmart1639 The reason why is to help keep traffic flowing. We have to yield to the opposite flow of traffic and watch for any pedestrians in the walkway.
The end of her junction would have gave a green light which meant she could join this road. This red light applies to the traffic behind her. Essentially stopping the busy traffic so people joining th road can go without waiting ages.
@@etherealcat6521 Ur daft, the Royal Corgi exception is only applicable if that event was preceded by a black mare rearing and neighing in a grandiose gesture.
@@D4ng404 you're a snobhead aren't you? The royal corgi exception actually trumps the black mare rearing gesture under the Steed Wagon Act of 1689, put into place after the Glorious Revolution. The black mare rearing gesture only applies during the birth-month of the king or queen.
The red light was for traffic to her left from the street she’s turning onto. It’s a T intersection, she had the green light to turn right and continue the crosswalk. Quite common in the UK
@@vfraddict Honestly I'm of the opinion that these "far side" traffic lights (like they have in the USA) are really dumb. It allows drivers to pass the stop line or cycle box, which means that pedestrians can't cross as easily. It's also really confusing to everyone, as this video shows! To explain the laws behind this incident: - If the lights are on BOTH sides of the road / lane, the light applies to EVERYONE (no matter which road you came from) - If there is only ONE traffic light (on one side of the road), that light ONLY applies to the traffic coming from where it is facing (currently waiting at the lights behind the student when they stopped). In short: multiple lights = always stop; one light = far side light applying only to oncoming cars.
In this instance the red light was just set rather far back from the intersection. It is meant for the straight thru traffic not for the traffic turning into the lane. They came into the lane from a side street.
The video is too short to show how obvious a mistake this is. She's come from the side road and turned into it. Ie the red light is for people on the road she is entering. I initially thought I'd stop as well and then I realised she was turning. I've seen someone do this in real life and the people behind were beeping heavily 😅
It is a fail, if the instructor never told her she would've waited for the light to turn green to move. And no not almost everyone, almost no one would stop there.
Lol nah only retards tbf. If there isn’t a traffic light on the left hand side and only the right (middle), it’s for oncoming traffic opposite the junction
Regardless of whether there was a red light there or not, there was a cross walk, and pedestrians were crossing so she had every right to stop? Instructor low key sucks
i dont think she did anything wrong. the man was crossing and the light on road was red?? do the people crossing know that some cars can still go through a red light even if pedestrian light is green? she can filter into that lane in front of lights from where she turned from, but still has to stop at the red light surely, ESPECIALLY while someone is actually about to cross. no wonder so many new drivers are having accidents today if rules say some cars can go through red lights on a pedestrian crossing
Love how she stopped and didn't listen to the teacher. It shows that even if she's relying on someone she's still gonna trust herself first. It's better to stop when your not supposed to than to go when your not supposed to
@@FirearmsGunGear I'd rather have 2 cars sitting behind me than an injured/dead pedestrian. Stopping on asphalt for 2 seconds is preferable to risking some retard running over the road to hit your car.
@@EnderShot why hurt one person when you can hurt several eh that aside pedestrians need to watch out and be sensible also, I've worked in the law, dealing with traffic incidents many times, for years, it amazes me how stupid drivers and pedestrians are
Americans, 99% of the time you will have to stop for pedestrians. I know it, along with basic merging, is a hard concept, but you’re supposed to follow the laws, not make up your own rules.
I was confused, briefly, but then I watched the other video which shows the path the car took. It's linked in one of the top comments. But even without that, you should be able to figure it out.
@@SC-hi6tp Why would it not be more useful closer to the junction if it's for the people coming straight on anyway. It's facing them so it's not like it would confuse her if it was at the tip of the spot where she started making the turn instead of further down where a crosswalk is. Lmfao. Seems like a pretty faulty system.
@@seand.3085 they have a light closer to the junction (just before it) but it is difficult to see that if you are right at the white line so they have the second light a little later on, after the junction... im not saying its not a faulty system but i didnt make it and there is some logic behind it, even if its not the most perfect solution
There is no solid white line by the light, so the red light doesn't apply as there isn't a stop area. If this isn't directly obvious to you then go re do your test and allow those who do know how to drive more space, thanks.
@@DrKendall1990 maybe you’re are right according to the highway code. But i’d still rather stop at the “red light” and risk a small collision, then sit in court trying to prove it wasn’t my fault when i hit an unsuspecting pedestrian at a red light that was crossing coz THEY thought it was a red light or quite possibly have never studied the highway code or acquired a licence to drive. 🤷♂️ Red means stop always has done in the highway code, otherwise, why spend thousands of pounds putting a traffic light in anyway? Sometimes you have to have common sense, or just patience and common courtesy to other people.
In my country, we would have to stop in this situation, according to the rules. I kind of get why it may not apply in UK but I think it applying makes more sense, unless it's before the intersection you're turning onto the new lane from.
Dont drive defensivley just drive with ur brain, defensivly means something diffrent and is way too extreme but in this scenario i agree with u, stopping was the right thing to do
@@snoxh2187 defensively is a good tip as you defensively in this case means you assume people will do stupid things which most the time drivers do. Nothing wrong with driving defensively.
She took literally every contextual clue available to her: Red light✅️ Pedestrian crossing the road✅️ Other lane was at a standstill✅️ Roadworks ahead of her✅️ Even if she technically shouldn't have stopped, it's not worthy of a fail, and I doubt anyone on the road would be mad at her for having stopped in that situation.
The way she says 'no it's not' and 'keep going' when the light is literally red and there's a pedestrian in the road. Failing someone for being extra cautious is madness, a minor at most.
Lol, British people would honk anyway, because they have to wait for her mistake to realize, but i am 100% on your side, I don't understand this nonsense, why is the light turned to her if it's not for her??? Why is there an intersection for walkers if they aren't supposed to go there? I'm so confused
In Norway you're required to stop at ANY pedestrians waiting to cross, be it 8 lanes or 2, you are to halt your lane since YOU know there's pedestrians crossing, the drivers behind you doesn't. It is for this reason that of she had NOT stopped she would be instantly failed here and if a driving instructor had this attitude they would be back on the school bench immediately. Instructor cause a stressful situation and the pedestrian would assume the driver intended to stop due to slowing down, hence "keep driving" would be a "run him over as he thinks it's safe" A instructor should act like a finnish rally driver when going off a cliff, calm and cool until the car stops rolling. Only interact when they're about to do something that puts lives at risk. She was not and I wouldn't have her in my car as a passenger
It's the red light for the, let's just say the lane going from west to east, and you're coming from the south lane that is green now, so it doesn't apply. The light placement is the thing that makes it easy to be confused of.
The video is cut in a way that dosnt help to explain. The junction is a ‘T Junction, that controlled by traffic lights, with the learner joining from thr side road. The main road was set to red with the side road at green so that the learner could proceed. The worse thing here is the pedestrian not saying thanks for allowing to cross the road!
The rear view camera at the bottom of the video shows the stopped traffic to which the red light applies. But the relatively big distance of the light after her right turn would have confused many.
@@joshpotts7640 And the explanation was wrong, if you view the video again you will see the studs across the road and the island in the middle of the pedestrian crossing!
@@WeeShoeyDugless First...calm tf down. Second, their point was the light wasn't intended for that lane. Whoever uploaded this cut it off before her explanation and gave some broken down quick summary. We only see a few seconds worth and barely anything but the one single lane. I suspect there's more to what we see here. Basically not enough to come to a firm conclusion as one who's actually there. Especially not enough to be flipping tf out.
@joshpotts7640 Don't lose your hair matey, I stand by what I have said and, only today, I drove through town and went through quite a few pedestrian crossings, exactly the same as in the video. Which part of the pedestrian crossing in the video are you disputing?
@@milipili9760 Youre right. All I know is they come to other countries to work hard at being their own boss and owning gas station chains only for certain Americans to rob them. And certain people from the UK.
Most of the time it's obvious - these are the advanced lights for people on the main route so they don't need to peer upwards through the corner of their windscreens. Usually when turning right you wouldn't notice them as you wouldn't be approaching them head-on. In this case they are particularly advanced for some reason, so when turning right you do approach them head on. This is very unusual hence all the confused comments.
And it wasn’t a very good answer… she should have led with “the red light isn’t for you” rather than “no it’s not!” When it clearly was. That just added to the student’s confusion unfortunately.
She was driving north and turning right into an eastbound lane. The light (out of view) was green for those turning out of the northbound lane. The red light shown here was for cars going straight in the eastbound lane. It would have made zero sense for her to stop.
Hence the confusion. There has to be a line across the road at the lights in front of you for them to apply to you. But remember let the pedestrians go.
Brit here. At junctions there will be a solid white line between two sets of traffic lights. That's where you need to stop if it's red. There's also a third set of lights on the right-hand side of the exit of the junction that I think are there so you can see when the lights change. The junction in this clip has the third set placed way too far from the junction and in the middle of the road making it very confusing. The instructor was right that the light wasn't for the driver, but the driver was right to be cautious. The drivers behind can mind their own business.
In Australia where I’m from , if she continues on she could be fined. It is very confusing rule. Also there was someone on the crossing which means you must stop.
@@riccirich7240 aay, if a light points at you and is red, then doesn't that mean it's for you? Or, there should be instructions written like - "Doesn't apply to straight people (i mean, the ones driving straight)" It's complicated brother
@@DrVeryStrangeI get what you’re trying to say however there is no solid stop line so that’s all the instructions she needs. She has just turning onto that road from a green light. The light for the pedestrian would have also been red (if there was one)
Yeah, fucking terrible instructor. When driver is making a minor mistake like this you take it up after they've gone through it not when they are still in the situation. Also acting like she does is just not helping at all, its like she is showcasing "look how dumb she is" all over her face. Man i hate how this went down.
The video is too short to show how obvious a mistake this is. She's come from the side road and turned into it. Ie the red light is for people on the road she is entering. I initially thought I'd stop as well and then I realised she was turning. I've seen someone do this in real life and the people behind were beeping heavily 😅
And to not feel the constant guilt of committing a crime, I prefer driving with my eyes closed and turning a blind eye to the lights and everything else.
@Kylie Lynn to be fair I think they've even made robbing Walgreens legal in Cali. Seems like quite the free for all out there but that's just me going off the news. I know negativity gets more attention, so that's what all news focus on.
Especially if you're in a red sports car, with spiked skoops on front and a spiked rack up top... and your name is SPIKE! IF YOU GET THIS, YOURE AN OLD FCK, JUS LIKE ME!
@MussNdSchmeckeMussWirkeKollege so you would have run the old man over and passed? The girl driving 100% did the right thing. That driving instructor (if that's even what they are) is a joke. Regardless if the light is for her or not, you give pedestrians right of way when they are about to walk out in front of you.
@@Jazz__________ The only thing that made her confused was the idiot telling her not to stop. She WAS focused on the road, she saw a red light and an elderly man crossing and did what any normal person would do and came to a stop. If you can't see that, then I wouldn't be throwing stones from my glass house if I were you. She has far more focus than you do.
I think it's when you turn right and the red light isn't actually for you but for those that were coming from your left. There is no solid white line either so the place to stop for this red light is further behind you. Still a crap design though as most people would stop here
@@Ahmad-rc6vuso in other words, it's like if at a cross intersection, you got a green light to turn into the intersection, but see the red light of the lane you went into and stop in the middle of the intersection?
Me neither, not on any road looking like this in my life (of 43yrs) in the UK...they're usually set out better than that, where certain traffic lights are for ppl coming from different directions/turnings.
In our country every red light applies to you unless it is shown underwise. If it's for bikes it shows a red bike, if for pedestrians it shows a pedestrian. The system is flawed if there isn't any other indicator to whom the red light is supposed to be.
I want the people who put the signs at the airport to return to parking by just following the signs they put up, not knowing anything about the road setup. The sign for which exit to take is about 50 feet before the turn after coming around a corner. If you are in the wrong lane you have to take a much longer detour.
Coming off onto a large roundabout I saw the confusion of the driver in front who stopped because he was looking at the red light for the drivers on the roundabout to the right. Then proceeded when the lights changed. Thankfully he drove off quickly so wasn't hit. Then I had to wait for the lights to change again. It's not always clear, especially when you're in unfamiliar territory. I find the same sometimes where a no entry sign is at a fork and it's clear where you can't go but not so clear where you can go
@JoCosGame you know when you turn right at lights (UK) and there are red lights when you turn for the traffic that have stopped while you go? That's what that red light is. But to me the confusion is that it's set so far back. Maybe it's right to stop if you're uncertain, but the point is, she is going to take a test soon, and being uncertain of the rules would be a fail.
For all the people who don't understand whats going on. She basically made the equivelant of a left hand turn on her green light, her stopping for this red is like if she stopped for the crossing traffic red which would/should be above you to prevent this type of confusion. The red light is for cars that are going straight on the road she just turned onto. It's a poor design and the traffic light is too far away.
@@jonrogan2443 Over here in America we have our traffic lights and crosswalks in a nice uniform square along the edges of the intersection. Not fucking 20+ meters behind it for no discernible reason.
It's a repeater light for the junction behind them. The lack of solid white line show's that. You only stop at a red light if there is a solid white line or temp lights with a red sign.
This is literally retarded British logic, lighted crosswalks like in my town act similar to this. But the red light doesn’t magically not apply to you because of some random traffic rule for a junction. This makes no sense
it's not just confusing. Because lights are so far away from the junction they have to be red for longer to ensure all cars passed the junction safely.
@@cd9475 that’s not the new Highway Code, that’s just how it always was. If a pedestrian is on the road, you have to wait for them. The new thing is that an uncontrolled junction (a turning with no lights or other crossings), you must stop and let a pedestrian who is waiting to cross go.
@@vansshliftss no. If it were a car stopped in the road, and you had ample time to stop, you’d be at fault if you hit them. Pedestrians are road users, just like cars, so if a pedestrian is on the road, and you have ample time to stop, and you hit them, you’re at fault.
Honestly I'm of the opinion that these "far side" traffic lights (like they have in the USA) are really dumb. It allows drivers to pass the stop line or cycle box, which means that pedestrians can't cross as easily. It's also really confusing to everyone, as this video shows! To explain the laws behind this incident: - If the lights are on BOTH sides of the road / lane, the light applies to EVERYONE (no matter which road you came from) - If there is only ONE traffic light (on one side of the road), that light ONLY applies to the traffic coming from where it is facing (currently waiting at the lights behind the student when they stopped). In short: multiple lights = always stop; one light = far side light applying only to oncoming cars.
The explanation is pointless because the infinite amount of brain damage this infrastructure causes outweighs any explanation instead of just fucking fixing this 😂
I think it would have helped if you had started the video before making the turn....not mid-turn. I've been driving for 35yrs and I was confused also, but once I saw the whoie video it made perfect sense, what you said.
the trouble is that the examiner is looking for more than just taking the "safe" option. She must be convinced that the applicant knows all the road rules, including this one, and also that she is competent to let loose on her own. You will fail for not demonstrating confidence and capability, as you should. Imagine how you feel if you pass a learner who promptly kills themselves or others for some silly failure behind the wheel.
@tonycook7679 of course but I'd rather someone only be confident if they truly know what's the right and wrong thing to be doing. Confidence while driving is 100% very important. Hesitation can cause an accident as much as ignorance, but making confident mistakes is way worse. Way easier to avoid accidents with a driver that won't take the right of way when it should vs a driver that will take the right of way when it shouldn't. Even if they're stopping at a green light, that's safer and easier for everyone around them to handle than running a red light. It's still Incredibly dangerous to do but if you have safe stopping distance then you'll have plenty of time to see the car ahead and stop before you crash even if it's just sitting still. I'm not saying this deserves a pass on the test but as far as mentality and how that driver driver defaults to not make rushed decisions and would rather take thinfs slow is a sign that they're thinking safely and won't make a knee jerk reaction when things get confusing or stressful. Half of driving safely is knowing the rules, the other half is just paying attention and having a good reaction to when other people don't follow the rules
I have been driving for 42 years and have ALWAYS stopped at ALL red lights! I live in the U.S., but THIS apparently is in BRITIAN, where they drive like idiots and drive through red lights!!! Lol!!!
She had come from the right. That red light is for the cars going straight it's like kind of like how in America you can turn right even if the lights are red...
@@demisavage8882Except she's not turning. She's going straight when she comes to the red light, and the red light is clearly for a pedestrian walk. UK has shitty road laws lmao.
Right?! Terrible communication. If I see something I’m not going to hit it, how do I know if she sees the old man coming for us unless she said, “don’t worry about him keep going.”
The pedestrian is not blind either bro , she she could've easily went before the pedestrian could even reach that side of the road and pedestrians need to be responsible as well
That light isn't for the learner car. The reason for that is because there are no road markings to indicate a stop line from where the learner has come from. It is, in fact, an "advanced signal" for the traffic already at a red light prior to where the learner joins. So rather than straining your neck to see what the traffic light is doing when next to it, there's a light further on to reference. Look up advanced traffic signals, UK.
@hypotheticalsinglewoody it's not advanced rules, it's advanced traffic signals, so cars can get right up to stop line and not have to strain themselves to see when their light turns green.
Amazing!! In Perth, Western Australia, we have many people who are newly settled from the UK. Our road rules are different from the rules shown in the video clip and can explain why many pedestrians & tourists are nearly killed or have experienced driver's rage here in Perth, Australia. When crossing the road in Australia, pedestrians press the button, wait until the green man appears, and then walk. If you are still walking across the road & the red man begins to flick on & off, the pedestrian still has the right to proceed until they finish crossing. A pedestrian can not enter the crossing if the red man is already flickering. A driver turning left always gives way to the pedestrian already on the road. However, if there's a set of pedestrian registration buttons on traffic lights in the middle on the road, then the pedestrian begins the procedure of crossing the road anew. I can't tell you how many born & bred aussie pedestrians I've had to 'save' from cars that proceed to turn or don't give way to pedestrians. Now, I know where it comes from. Wow!
It's an awkward road in Park Royal next Asda. Yh she's defo meant to go thru the light but she probably didn't know the area why she didn't. That light ain't for turning cars
no you wouldn't, unless you have never driven in a t junction with traffic lights before, this video just misses the initial part where she enters the junction
Same trying to understand how the fuck you wouldn't stop at this light what in the Failing Economy is going on here, we train drivers to run red and crush pedestrians
These are junction exit lights however a crossing has been added which makes them look like part of a light controlled crossing. Whoever designed this needs to be fired, it is at best confusing and at worst dangerous for pedestrians.
Yup you are right. there is a difference tho light controlled crossings have lights at the side of the road not the Center that’s usually reserved for exit junction lights
@@harleymoore441 I actually have a junction near me where the exit lights were repurposed as a crossing so it isn't unheard of. That junction is really dangerous too as the pedestrians and drivers have no clue what is going on and I have seen a couple of near misses.
@@baschoen23 A little bit farther back from where the driver stopped is another path that just goes straight to the light instead of turning, but they have a solid line so they have to abide by the red light. The driver already drove through a green light before making the turn, and this repeating red light isn't for her. It's kind of like a 3 way intersection but both the left and right lights are on the right side.
What seems common in Japan but weird in many other countries is that Japan has crossroads with green lights active for both pedestrians and drivers turning. Pedestrians always have the right of way and drivers must stop in front of the zebra lines even when it's green light.
@@apocalypsenow1871 in Japan if you rape someone and they go on social media and talk about you can sue them. The people in Japan aren’t that good dude
It's a red light but it's for traffic from the other direction. It's to stop them and give her the right of way. Because with busy T Junctions and things it would be like trying to turn into a constant traffic flow. There wouldn't be a gap to safely go into and you would have to litteraly push your way into the flow and force other cars to stop, if there wasn't the traffic lights.
she's delusional lol First she claims the red light isn't red when it clearly is but then all of a sudden she claims the non red, red light does not apply to her She prolly took shrooms one day but remained stuck in her trip ever since -_-
Nah its really obvious when you're not micro focusing 3 inches in front of yourself (as learners tend to do naturally) and you are aware of the junction from an earlier stage.
@@CoyoteBoyUKTheres no logical reason the red light should be placed there instead of the forefront of an intersection. Sure, if you've grown up around roads like this, then its obvious. But just because something works doesn't mean it should. The only reason I can see them placing the red light far foward is because of the crosswalk, but apparently the light has no effect to that crosswalk, so what the fuck UK.
@@SmithenJW04k Couple of points you don't see from the video (of course, edited to get best reaction), which probably drives your mis-understanding of the layout. This red light is a repeater signal for a primary red light behind the camera car (while it waits for the pedestrian). You can't see this red from the car's starting position, only once you turn into the junction, at which point you're not meant to stop - you only ENTER a junction when it's clear for you to exit. You only stop if the red light shows toward you when there's a solid white line in your lane, as you can see - there isn't one. The crosswalk has its own control over the lights, and only stops traffic if someone presses the button, at which point it would stop ALL lanes that could allow traffic to cross that crosswalk. It's all very logical and functions just fine. This junction is quite long, which means that the learner has dropped out of "junction" mode in their head and gone back into "driving along the road" mode, and sees the repeater as a new signal, not part of the original that they entered, most aren't like this, but the rules still cover this - there's no white line in the road so this light does not relate to you at this point. Of course you'd always stop for the pedestrian crossing anyway, so this "fail" isn't really justified, especially not under the new UK laws where pedestrians crossing normal roads always have priority.
@@CoyoteBoyUKI'm sorry, but shouldn't the repeater light still be placed closer to the start of the road markings? As in closer to the traffic it applies to, like the opposite lane of the dashcam vehicle. I understand that it's supposed to make it easier for the person at the front of the red lights, but placing it this far back seems like it would create unnecessary confusion.
@@SmithenJW04k That's what I meant by it being a long junction and a little unusual, but still covered by the "no solid line, so this light doesn't apply to you" rule, it can't be placed closer because that would be in the middle of the junction and would be inhibiting larger traffic which needs the space to turn (you'd have to put an island and a bollard etc, we don't have hanging repeaters here really and you can't just whap a pole in the roadway because of impact risks). If you're not a new driver, it's intuitive to know where to stop because you're not in an unfamiliar environment - the line-before-lights rule doesn't need to be thought about, because it's second nature once you've driven for a few weeks. I have absolutely made this mistake as a seasoned driver here, but not come to a full stop - just had a moment of "oops...oh, not my lights, carry on".
It's a T-Junction. The street that the driver comes out of at the start of the video has it's own set of lights and by the point in the video, they would've been green. The lights that we see in the video are repeated lights for the cars that are to the left (or behind the driver after she comes into the road fully). The driver in this instance has right of way, but because she stopped, the pedestrian continued to cross.
The rule that catches us out is a solid line across at the lights means stop if light is red but if no line at lights then ignore them, seems it is not taught.but only at these repeater lights, all other traffic lights must be obeyed. See the follow up video.
Something really interesting thats different between england and my country is, we have to stop when a pedestrian as 2 meters from the crossing. But it isnt like that in england
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She updated the video, and explains it as to why. Basic is, Solid white line, you stop if red. if not you have right of way or you crash, the pedestrian would have and should have stopped. and even then she had plenty of time to pass the light even before the pedestrian entered the lane as she was slowing as she approached the light.
Sorry but no. A pedestrian is already crossing the road. As people we risk assess, whatever rules you think the instructor was right about she was completely wrong to tell the student to keep going. It’s being that kind of instructor that causes accidents. Where there is ambiguity always opt for the safest option.
@@dannyfeller7034 watch the video before commenting u muppet
@@dannyfeller7034 do you stop on the red light for the crossing traffic? Or do you keep going on your own green light as you should? The red light was for cross traffic. The driver is not cross traffic, she was turning on a green light.
@@dannyfeller7034 If you want a dump truck to slam into you then by all means...
Folks the pedestrian is not the point I was making. The student saw a red light and a pedestrian so decided to stop. Most folk would do exactly the same thing. The instructor then started telling the student to keep going when the vehicle was almost at a stop. Vehicles from behind, if reading the road ahead would have already slowed, so getting the student to then drive again adds confusion. It also creates confusion for the pedestrian already on the road when the instructor is telling the student to go, assuming that pedestrian is paying attention to the traffic. As motorists we have a responsibility to everything around us as what we are driving is ultimately a very dangerous machine. Rule number one, never assume. The time to raise this junction with the student was after the junction had passed and maybe have a go again. The rules here do not matter, driver risk assessment does. If you cannot risk assess the road, don’t drive.
It should be the right thing to do to stop there, because the pedestrian is likely unaware of what's going on either
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She did the right thing, that's a safe driver reaction when in confusion it's better to stop, better getting honked by the cars behind than crashing.
or worse hitting a pedestrian due to indecisiveness
Worse not driving if car behind expects you to, and it keeps driving as that is what makes sense to them knowing the traffic laws.
At least its low speed here, so a crash wouldn’t be too hard but its the same as letting someone onto the highway or a road when you have right of way, just to be nice. You are causing an unexpected behaviour, which can lead to car collisions.
@@EricMichaelLP cars behind you are obligated to drive at a safe distance allowing for emergencies or accidents.
@@EricMichaelLPworse not driving?
Worse than running over a pedestrian?
Darling, go home, you are drunk.
Or better yet, learn the rules in the country you’re driving in. Ignorance can be corrected with effort of learning and then no one is put out by your failure to educate yourself.
That's the most horrendous light placement for the other traffic
Ok
"No, that red light's not for you. That red light only applies on _Run An Old Man Down_ days. Today isn't a _Run An Old Man Down_ day, so you need to keep moving and run that old man down."
Welcome to UK
I had a light placement like this outside my old place, in the city centre. There were a lot of honking.
Every day.
@@jolenethellama I saw somewhere that, that light was for side merging or something, well if the LIGHT IS STRAIGHT UP facing your way, it is for you, if it was sideways facing the incoming traffic it would be for them, but that light was not facing them it was facing her, so the light was for her.
Also, I don't see a pedestrian light for that crossing, so ANY PEDESTRIAN crossing has the PRIORITY, then any vehicle must stop and let them cross.
If it doesn't apply then it's not only contradictory, but it's flat out dangerous...
Exactly and if she failed them for being safe all respect for her is now lost for me lol
Those are repeater traffic lights for the traffic waiting on the other side of the junction directly opposite the traffic lights. The lights don't apply to the learner driver because she has a green light to turn right. All you need to know is, if there isn't a stop line then you are not supposed to stop at those lights.
@@airportdocumentariesThanks for the info, I'm glad my country has managed to get on without such a confusing light.
That whole road looks like a setup for failure on a test 💀
Welcome to England 😂
@@weirdgirl5555Like zebra crossing with traffic lights coming off a large roundabout
I am not concerned about the test what about regular driving and accidents there. Brutal design much easier in a Philippines 🇵🇭 province where they have no lights or stop signs!!
the amount of signs cones and parked vehicles 😂
Here in NY USA even if a pedestrian is in the wrong, it does not matter. Unfortunately figured that out the hard way. They paid the bicyclist clearly in the wrong based on cameras and witnesses 100k for his stupidity lol
If you’re unsure, play it safe. I’d rather hear a honk than a siren
right
Truth
Yeah. Play it safe is much better than be in jail.
The honk can cause a siren tho.
The siren has a nice rhythm, though.
If I failed my test for stopping at a red light and letting a pedestrian cross at a crossing I'd be so mad at the DVLA
If the pedestrian is on your section of the crossing you have to stop but he wasn't and this would be a fail.
2 red lights are needed to require you to stop. One on each side. It drives me nuts seeing people stop at these single reds after turning a corner.
Never come in canada... no lights and you are supposed to stop if the line are yellow... doesn't matter if he did start to cross or not... if they are lights... you always have to stop if it's red... @hiddencabbage559
She didn't stop at a red light not really she stopped for a repeater light that doesn't apply to her also the pedestrian would not have been in the road if she kept driving as she should
@@MrKryss2kmakes no sense
If that light is not for the driver, it shouldn't be positioned RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DRIVER. Bad planning!😂
When you see a red light and people are crossing make sure to floor it in the UK. Those red lights do not apply to you.❤
Neanderthal
@@sstar3173 it’s not always green. You stop for pedestrians
@@deanslater5584 why wasn't she supposed to stop? I've never been to the UK so I'm not familiar with the traffic laws and this is very confusing.
@@royalgilpin4922 its because its a repeat/secondary light, at first i didnt even know why the heck it was there but its there incase the primary light doesnt work, basically just insurance. btw if theres a solid white line you have to stop at the light but if theres no white line you can pass it as if theres no light there since it wouldnt apply to you.
@@goldengames9338 a lot of the time we have fold out stop signs on our traffic lights in case the light stops working. Either that or it blinks red and acts just like a stop sign basically.
In my country , whenever a red light doesnt apply to me , im getting a massive juicy ticket 15 days after it.
America right?🥲
@@chel.sea_3326New Zealand
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😂 wait a minute
Was it because the red was for oncoming traffic from the lane she was turning into? And she was turning with a green? I wish she explained it
All I've learned from this channel as a Canadian is that British roads are so confusing and I should be greatful for my simple roads.
FACTS
Same goes for us Indians, there are only 2 rules here:
1. Dont die while driving
2. Dont kill someone while driving
People don't realize there's only like 60 million people in England. Meanwhile America has a half billion and India has double that. All these rules feel silly until you realize England is smaller than most US states.
The multi lane roundabout are so annoying
Just gimme multiple junctions or summink man
Our road rules are a simple set completely ruined by several dozen different conditions that change these rules for the most arbitrary of reasons
As a licensed driver of Texas (to Americans that’s significant (I learned to drive in Waco ifykyk)) the thought of driving in the UK is terrifying. I’ve looked at their road structure and it confuses the ever loving Jesus outta me. I’d rather drive the entirety of I-35 twice then have to figure what is happening over there with their roads
Yeah it’s hard enough understanding all their accents, understanding their roads is a whole nother language.
40 odd million people manage it every day so must be an American thing
@@jay340 brother your roads are designed bad. Our country is designed for roads. We have the upper hand when it comes to how we are supposed to drive
I was gonna say I’m from New Jersey and my hometown has a light like this
@jay340 right becwuse you grew up and learnt it, its much more complicated then Americas system and doesnt makes sense to us from what we know about our own
Ive been driving in the UK since 1989 and that confused the hell out of me.
What is this law?
@@animegoodanime8125judging by the video my assumption is that the law is that you can run a red light and just send it through an intersection with wild abandon. Great job UK.
@@QbertTehKiller That’s not how it works
@Benjamin_Counter but from the outside looking in, it sure seems that way.
Hence the sarcastic comment... which you took for a genuine assumtion (?)
Now I'm making assumptions haha
Why it's a woman driving instructor I stopped listening instantly I don't need tips on how not to park
Better to stop at a red light not meant for you, than to accidentally drive through one you were meant to stop at.
no, cars behind you are not expecting you to stop and you’ll get rear ended
@@unexpectediteminbaggingare8074 if someone rear ends you they’re almost always at fault. If they rear end you, it’s because they weren’t paying attention. The fault is on them for not paying attention to the car in front of them.
@@unexpectediteminbaggingare8074 Then they are driving incorrectly either following two closely or not paying attention. Regardless, with a light intersection like this one not having the context of the rest of the intersection, this is an easily misunderstood light, and traffic engineers should be fixing it.
It like explaining a red light don't mean to stop
@@tired9398 not if you stop on randomly
When she said “But whyyyyyy?” I felt that
Fr
I'm in America and this seems like some fucked up bullshit that city planners shoulda fixed yesterday lul
@@fallenneutron2740 im English, been driving 39 yrs and ive no idea either
@@fallenneutron2740absolutely agreed. I do have a genuine question tho. I heard that in America it’s ok to turn right on a red. If you have time please can you explain why?
@kathrynsmart1639 The reason why is to help keep traffic flowing. We have to yield to the opposite flow of traffic and watch for any pedestrians in the walkway.
UK driving laws are weird AF. "You can't pass here after 3pm on a Friday unless there's a Jabberwocky sign flapping it's wings."
That's 2pm on a Tuesday you poppycock talking spiv😅
You are wrong though, you still can't pass there, because Royal Corgi has peed on the wrong side of his favorite tree. Learn your traffic laws smh
The end of her junction would have gave a green light which meant she could join this road. This red light applies to the traffic behind her. Essentially stopping the busy traffic so people joining th road can go without waiting ages.
@@etherealcat6521 Ur daft, the Royal Corgi exception is only applicable if that event was preceded by a black mare rearing and neighing in a grandiose gesture.
@@D4ng404 you're a snobhead aren't you? The royal corgi exception actually trumps the black mare rearing gesture under the Steed Wagon Act of 1689, put into place after the Glorious Revolution. The black mare rearing gesture only applies during the birth-month of the king or queen.
*woman crushes pedestrian and keeps driving*
instructor: impressive
This comment is gold
now let's see Paul Allen's license
This comment needs more likes 😂
Am picturing mortal kombat voice line impressive
Wait thats not the point of driving? I thought you were supposed to hit as much pedestrians as possible
I’m not a traffic engineer, just a technician, but that seems like one of the dumbest things ever if that instructor is correct.
The red light was for traffic to her left from the street she’s turning onto. It’s a T intersection, she had the green light to turn right and continue the crosswalk. Quite common in the UK
@@vfraddict Thanks for the response but I have to concur with the response of the student.
@@garymountcastle6657
Me too. Can't see who else the light could apply to.
Can't be those on the other side of the road, coming the other way.
@@vfraddict Honestly I'm of the opinion that these "far side" traffic lights (like they have in the USA) are really dumb.
It allows drivers to pass the stop line or cycle box, which means that pedestrians can't cross as easily.
It's also really confusing to everyone, as this video shows!
To explain the laws behind this incident:
- If the lights are on BOTH sides of the road / lane, the light applies to EVERYONE (no matter which road you came from)
- If there is only ONE traffic light (on one side of the road), that light ONLY applies to the traffic coming from where it is facing (currently waiting at the lights behind the student when they stopped).
In short: multiple lights = always stop; one light = far side light applying only to oncoming cars.
@@vfraddictthe fact this is common doesn't make it any better 😂😂
The contrary, what a fked up country 😅
As an ex instructor, this is the best way of making them come back and pay you for more lessons.
“Officer, that red light doesn’t apply to me.” Gonna try this next time
In this instance the red light was just set rather far back from the intersection. It is meant for the straight thru traffic not for the traffic turning into the lane. They came into the lane from a side street.
And if the officer asks why it doesn't apply, just say "I'll get to that in a second, okay?" and then leave.
@@williameleno naturally 😄
Where is this traffic light 🙋🏻♂️
Let us know how it went please 😂
Almost everyone would've stopped there. It's wrong to fail someone for that.
The video is too short to show how obvious a mistake this is. She's come from the side road and turned into it. Ie the red light is for people on the road she is entering. I initially thought I'd stop as well and then I realised she was turning. I've seen someone do this in real life and the people behind were beeping heavily 😅
It is a fail, if the instructor never told her she would've waited for the light to turn green to move. And no not almost everyone, almost no one would stop there.
Who failed her 😂
Lol nah only retards tbf. If there isn’t a traffic light on the left hand side and only the right (middle), it’s for oncoming traffic opposite the junction
That's why you shouldn't have the traffic lights across the intersection
That's not a driver failure, that's a design failure.
exactly
100%
Regardless of whether there was a red light there or not, there was a cross walk, and pedestrians were crossing so she had every right to stop? Instructor low key sucks
@@kaibukacek7631 99% of women can't drive, I wouldn't expect them to be able to teach driving 🤦♂
@@kaibukacek7631 it’s not a zebra crossing so if you stop on your test to let them cross there it would still result in a fail
Student: *Drives through a red light, plowing through a pedestrian*
Instructor: "Finally, someone who knows how to drive!"
Do you think the instructor knows more or the confused learner?
The pedestrian can stop btw. This isn't a video game where the pedestrians will walk out into the middle of the street no matter what lol.
😂
@@walter_3987 you drastically overestimate the intelligence and situational awareness of the average person
@@walter_3987 do you really drive?
Thank you for this important information I will be no longer stopping at RED lights 👍🏼
Brilliant. 🤣🤣
Yeah you're right, you should stop at green, everyone will be so grateful that they will honk at you so bad
😂😂😂
I think she was turning into the road, meaning it is for the cars on the road already.
@@brendakabanda2181 This was sarcasm, they're not being serious. It was just a funny comment!
British driving be like: there's a red light and pedestrian crossing in front of you, speed up
Paki driving not British
American driving be like: There's a pedestrian crossing let's shoot them
🇺🇸 vs 🇬🇧
Americans are scared of roundabouts of all things
@@laytonbyou know y’all in the uk have shootings everyday right? They just are never covered because it involves gangs
this instructor is so calm and doesn't rush to overwhelm with explanation when we feel we've done something wrong, i like it
i dont think she did anything wrong. the man was crossing and the light on road was red?? do the people crossing know that some cars can still go through a red light even if pedestrian light is green? she can filter into that lane in front of lights from where she turned from, but still has to stop at the red light surely, ESPECIALLY while someone is actually about to cross. no wonder so many new drivers are having accidents today if rules say some cars can go through red lights on a pedestrian crossing
Be aware guys, don’t stop at red lights, especially if there’s a pedestrian crossing the crosswalk
Forgot to add that when a pedestrian crosses, you speed up on top of it
So you're telling me to drive like I do in GTA for a driver's test? Sounds good.
@@thevoicelesswriterhat's what she said right?😂
I love running over- I mean, driving with safety in mind
It's a pavement it's in England, it wasn't a crossing those lights are for the cars behind them
I felt that "but why" in my soul.
Ikr
It was adorable
Love how she stopped and didn't listen to the teacher. It shows that even if she's relying on someone she's still gonna trust herself first. It's better to stop when your not supposed to than to go when your not supposed to
And cause a pile up!
@@FirearmsGunGear I'd rather have 2 cars sitting behind me than an injured/dead pedestrian. Stopping on asphalt for 2 seconds is preferable to risking some retard running over the road to hit your car.
@@FirearmsGunGear better than a crash with a human
@@EnderShot why hurt one person when you can hurt several eh that aside pedestrians need to watch out and be sensible also, I've worked in the law, dealing with traffic incidents many times, for years, it amazes me how stupid drivers and pedestrians are
Except on a ramp for an HW or Interstate. Ive had it happen infront of me.
Glad i did driving lincense back when we had one traffic light and 2 crossroads in the town
This driving instructors voice is heaven she's stunning plz come teach me all over again
The sincerity in the “but why!?” Kills me
when the legit common sense asks a question..
Americans, 99% of the time you will have to stop for pedestrians. I know it, along with basic merging, is a hard concept, but you’re supposed to follow the laws, not make up your own rules.
Is this UK? Every time I see this channel they show the most retarded roads I've ever seen
Is this UK? Every time I see this channel they show the most autistic road designs I've ever seen
@@yourlifeisagreatstory that’s so out of context bruh, also I am thankful not to be American.
"but why?"
don't worry girl, we're all here with you
Speak for urself
unbelievable, 550 likes from dunb@sses who doesn't know how to drive
@@instinct7692speak for 568, you can speak for yourself.
I was confused, briefly, but then I watched the other video which shows the path the car took. It's linked in one of the top comments. But even without that, you should be able to figure it out.
@@nimroderycan you just explain it then like tf
"Always be on the right side of wrong."
One of the many pieces of ambiguous advice handed down by my Dad.
Best advice I got was from a friend she said assume that everyone is shit at driving 😂
Wise, your Dad is.
Absolutely @@Jack-lk7wk
Left a good impression.
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In Belgium we have this issue all the time, it’s very dangerous for everyone 😬
“That red light doesn’t apply to me officer.”
I’m gonna use that from now on.
LMFAOOOO 😭🤣🤣🤣
Officer: “whys that?”
Me: “ill get to that in a second, okay?”
😂😂😂😂
😂😂💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Yea let’s place a light here but don’t make it useful just place it here”
the light is useful for people going straight, she right turned into the road so her own lights were earlier at the start of the junction
@@SC-hi6tpand this somehow makes sense to you? …..fucking England, driving from the passenger seat to begin with
@@SC-hi6tp Why would it not be more useful closer to the junction if it's for the people coming straight on anyway. It's facing them so it's not like it would confuse her if it was at the tip of the spot where she started making the turn instead of further down where a crosswalk is. Lmfao. Seems like a pretty faulty system.
@@seand.3085 they have a light closer to the junction (just before it) but it is difficult to see that if you are right at the white line so they have the second light a little later on, after the junction... im not saying its not a faulty system but i didnt make it and there is some logic behind it, even if its not the most perfect solution
@@BigDigRock why are you so angry lol
Student: “But why?”
Instructor: “I’ll get to that in a second, once i’ve thought of something”
Hahahaha… Exactly my thoughts. “We will get that on a second while I'm rapidly thinking some BS”
There is no solid white line by the light, so the red light doesn't apply as there isn't a stop area. If this isn't directly obvious to you then go re do your test and allow those who do know how to drive more space, thanks.
@@DrKendall1990 maybe you’re are right according to the highway code. But i’d still rather stop at the “red light” and risk a small collision, then sit in court trying to prove it wasn’t my fault when i hit an unsuspecting pedestrian at a red light that was crossing coz THEY thought it was a red light or quite possibly have never studied the highway code or acquired a licence to drive. 🤷♂️ Red means stop always has done in the highway code, otherwise, why spend thousands of pounds putting a traffic light in anyway? Sometimes you have to have common sense, or just patience and common courtesy to other people.
@@DrKendall1990whats the point of the traffic light if its not for the drivers? im from america so is a bit confusing.
"ill get to that in a second so i dont have to teach on camera"
In my country, we would have to stop in this situation, according to the rules. I kind of get why it may not apply in UK but I think it applying makes more sense, unless it's before the intersection you're turning onto the new lane from.
Rule Number 1: Drive defensively. That was 100% the correct thing to do.
Dont drive defensivley just drive with ur brain, defensivly means something diffrent and is way too extreme but in this scenario i agree with u, stopping was the right thing to do
@@snoxh2187 defensively is a good tip as you defensively in this case means you assume people will do stupid things which most the time drivers do. Nothing wrong with driving defensively.
@@brianburke2760Defensive driving keeps you (mostly) safe. My dad is a very offensive driver and it can get dangerous sometimes
It’s not a “good idea” to stop at red lights that aren’t for your lane. This video isn’t in America.
@@snoxh2187defensively is how you pass the test. Showing your careful and taking it slow.
She took literally every contextual clue available to her:
Red light✅️
Pedestrian crossing the road✅️
Other lane was at a standstill✅️
Roadworks ahead of her✅️
Even if she technically shouldn't have stopped, it's not worthy of a fail, and I doubt anyone on the road would be mad at her for having stopped in that situation.
The way she says 'no it's not' and 'keep going' when the light is literally red and there's a pedestrian in the road. Failing someone for being extra cautious is madness, a minor at most.
Lol, British people would honk anyway, because they have to wait for her mistake to realize, but i am 100% on your side, I don't understand this nonsense, why is the light turned to her if it's not for her??? Why is there an intersection for walkers if they aren't supposed to go there? I'm so confused
Bc the line isn’t solid
In Norway you're required to stop at ANY pedestrians waiting to cross, be it 8 lanes or 2, you are to halt your lane since YOU know there's pedestrians crossing, the drivers behind you doesn't.
It is for this reason that of she had NOT stopped she would be instantly failed here and if a driving instructor had this attitude they would be back on the school bench immediately.
Instructor cause a stressful situation and the pedestrian would assume the driver intended to stop due to slowing down, hence "keep driving" would be a "run him over as he thinks it's safe"
A instructor should act like a finnish rally driver when going off a cliff, calm and cool until the car stops rolling. Only interact when they're about to do something that puts lives at risk.
She was not and I wouldn't have her in my car as a passenger
Not every driving lesson is a test lol
As an American… WHY. That’s extremely confusing.
Bro as a British person I don’t know why either 😂 instructor is a crack head
It's the red light for the, let's just say the lane going from west to east, and you're coming from the south lane that is green now, so it doesn't apply. The light placement is the thing that makes it easy to be confused of.
As an Australian I am confused. Pedestrians have right of way even when you are turning.
Oh my fucking god its a left turn light.
The video is cut in a way that dosnt help to explain. The junction is a ‘T Junction, that controlled by traffic lights, with the learner joining from thr side road. The main road was set to red with the side road at green so that the learner could proceed. The worse thing here is the pedestrian not saying thanks for allowing to cross the road!
The rear view camera at the bottom of the video shows the stopped traffic to which the red light applies. But the relatively big distance of the light after her right turn would have confused many.
If most people agree that they would stop at this red light then whoever designed it should be sacked instantly
Thats not how the rules of the road work
@@FirearmsGunGear If your design is so shit that no one understands how it works, you have failed as a designer.
@@lemons1559 simple, if there's a solid stop sign you stop for a red, if not then you don't
@@FirearmsGunGear As said previously, you're one of few who gets that. Most don't get that. The design is shit.
@@lemons1559 people's understanding is shit, and it's not most that don't get it, if it was most we'd have more rear ender crashes than we do
There are about 5 car lengths between the turn and the traffic light. I don't blame her for thinking that red light applied to her! At all.
It DOES apply to her, its a pedestrian crossing FFS!!!
She (the driver) was 100% correct to stop.
Who gave the instructor her pass??
@@WeeShoeyDuglessThe explanation was pinned at the top.
@@joshpotts7640
And the explanation was wrong, if you view the video again you will see the studs across the road and the island in the middle of the pedestrian crossing!
@@WeeShoeyDugless First...calm tf down. Second, their point was the light wasn't intended for that lane. Whoever uploaded this cut it off before her explanation and gave some broken down quick summary. We only see a few seconds worth and barely anything but the one single lane. I suspect there's more to what we see here. Basically not enough to come to a firm conclusion as one who's actually there. Especially not enough to be flipping tf out.
@joshpotts7640
Don't lose your hair matey, I stand by what I have said and, only today, I drove through town and went through quite a few pedestrian crossings, exactly the same as in the video.
Which part of the pedestrian crossing in the video are you disputing?
she has the teaching ability of a gas lighting mother in law.
Well she is indian
@@milipili9760Indians don't have a stereotype for gas lighting so whats your point in bringing that up?
@@matt59fire you have no clue
@@milipili9760 Youre right. All I know is they come to other countries to work hard at being their own boss and owning gas station chains only for certain Americans to rob them. And certain people from the UK.
“we’ll get to that”
The stupidity of having red lights that “dont apply to you” is just next level
Most of the time it's obvious - these are the advanced lights for people on the main route so they don't need to peer upwards through the corner of their windscreens. Usually when turning right you wouldn't notice them as you wouldn't be approaching them head-on.
In this case they are particularly advanced for some reason, so when turning right you do approach them head on. This is very unusual hence all the confused comments.
@@Orion3Tproving that the roads are designed poorly lol
@@kurtwoyma7781 And proving that Brits are bonkers. 😂
@@Orion3Ttry explaining that one to an insurance company. Or court if you hitv the pedestrian. See how it goes down
This is why they're relegated to being a tiny garbage island nation. Why nobody invades them is beyond me...
I don't blame her asking why. That doesn't make sense at all.
And it wasn’t a very good answer… she should have led with “the red light isn’t for you” rather than “no it’s not!” When it clearly was. That just added to the student’s confusion unfortunately.
@@josiahjray I'd be seeking a new instructor
She was driving north and turning right into an eastbound lane. The light (out of view) was green for those turning out of the northbound lane. The red light shown here was for cars going straight in the eastbound lane. It would have made zero sense for her to stop.
Yeah how the fuck signage works in the UK bro??! 🤨🤨
Yeah
Ffs, it's a red light pointing directly at you.
Hence the confusion. There has to be a line across the road at the lights in front of you for them to apply to you. But remember let the pedestrians go.
@@keithdenyer3937?? what huh what so WHO ARE THEY FOR
@@qaze000 That's a good question, my friend. According to what I've seen, it's just a pure torture to pass the exam in the UK.
@@ImJuDI fecks sake
Brit here. At junctions there will be a solid white line between two sets of traffic lights. That's where you need to stop if it's red. There's also a third set of lights on the right-hand side of the exit of the junction that I think are there so you can see when the lights change. The junction in this clip has the third set placed way too far from the junction and in the middle of the road making it very confusing. The instructor was right that the light wasn't for the driver, but the driver was right to be cautious. The drivers behind can mind their own business.
In Australia where I’m from , if she continues on she could be fined.
It is very confusing rule.
Also there was someone on the crossing which means you must stop.
“Your honor, the instructor gave me immunity from red lights.”
😂
It’s not her light. She was turning right that was the light for those already on the road. Please learn to drive people
@@riccirich7240 aay, if a light points at you and is red, then doesn't that mean it's for you? Or, there should be instructions written like - "Doesn't apply to straight people (i mean, the ones driving straight)"
It's complicated brother
@@DrVeryStrangeI get what you’re trying to say however there is no solid stop line so that’s all the instructions she needs. She has just turning onto that road from a green light. The light for the pedestrian would have also been red (if there was one)
The instructor was correct. However, the lights were begging errors.
That's just crazy. I'd have stopped too and I've been driving for over 20 years.
Me to, I was taught if in doubt DONT AND THE NEW LAW STATES pedestrians have the right of way
I think she is turning into the road. You can hear the indicator.
I'd have stopped too. I see no reason why it wouldn't apply??
It doesn't apply because there's no solid white line by this red light that's the quickest and easiest way to recognise it 😂
@@cloudstrife_255that's really weird, but thanks for sharing. I'll try to remember that for if/when I visit.
Driver looked ready to cry, poor girl was probably stressed af and that nonsense light threw her in a tizzy.
Yeah, fucking terrible instructor. When driver is making a minor mistake like this you take it up after they've gone through it not when they are still in the situation. Also acting like she does is just not helping at all, its like she is showcasing "look how dumb she is" all over her face. Man i hate how this went down.
As soon as I ever failed a test I juat stoped the car and left
@@jakemann2249Is that possible?
The teachers voice didnt help either
Yeah sounds like someone you don't want driving. Distractions make her forget traffic lights and road rules, that's not great.
It's in England and there the lights that apply to you are on the left side of the road in normal conditions.
I would lose my mind if I failed for this 😭
You would?
Would you now?
Welcomed to my world
The video is too short to show how obvious a mistake this is. She's come from the side road and turned into it. Ie the red light is for people on the road she is entering. I initially thought I'd stop as well and then I realised she was turning. I've seen someone do this in real life and the people behind were beeping heavily 😅
I did!!!!!!! I stopped at the light and there was a car behind. It killed me
@@benwakefield93 i turned into a lane with a red light directly infront and i got a fine😢
My first test I stopped at a right merging lane because I thought the red light was for me and they failed me, it was so aggravating 😭
This is why just to be safe i don’t stop at any red lights
💀
Lmfao
😂
And to not feel the constant guilt of committing a crime, I prefer driving with my eyes closed and turning a blind eye to the lights and everything else.
😂
She summed up other country's roads for me quite well 💀 "but why"
😂😂😂😂😂😂same
And Washington DC. There’s many an intersection where I’m just like (hands up) “Jesus take the wheel.” 🥴
It’s bad here in California as well where jay walking is now legal
@Kylie Lynn to be fair I think they've even made robbing Walgreens legal in Cali. Seems like quite the free for all out there but that's just me going off the news. I know negativity gets more attention, so that's what all news focus on.
@@devongee1776 precisely!!! and ur talking about Dino during the riots that wasn’t pretty for anybody out here
In the UK pedestrians yield at traffic when already half way crossing. Red light means go and driver is on the left side 😵💫
Apparently that pedestrian was worth 50+ bonus points 😂
🎉 😂 apparently!
Haah underrated comment. She would have passed with that amount of points.
Especially if you're in a red sports car, with spiked skoops on front and a spiked rack up top... and your name is SPIKE!
IF YOU GET THIS, YOURE AN OLD FCK, JUS LIKE ME!
Well duh
Lol! And she stopped so she didn't get the bonus points! Dang!!!
She did the right thing, given the road layout I would've stopped.
Then you would have failed
@@MussNdSchmeckeMussWirkeKollege - The lights were miles away from the junction, I would've failed people who didn't stop.
@MussNdSchmeckeMussWirkeKollege so you would have run the old man over and passed? The girl driving 100% did the right thing. That driving instructor (if that's even what they are) is a joke. Regardless if the light is for her or not, you give pedestrians right of way when they are about to walk out in front of you.
Nope. If you are a driver and this confused you then your attention is not on the road.
@@Jazz__________ The only thing that made her confused was the idiot telling her not to stop. She WAS focused on the road, she saw a red light and an elderly man crossing and did what any normal person would do and came to a stop. If you can't see that, then I wouldn't be throwing stones from my glass house if I were you. She has far more focus than you do.
Never in my 12 years of living in the UK have I seen a traffic light like that
I think it's when you turn right and the red light isn't actually for you but for those that were coming from your left. There is no solid white line either so the place to stop for this red light is further behind you.
Still a crap design though as most people would stop here
@@Ahmad-rc6vuso in other words, it's like if at a cross intersection, you got a green light to turn into the intersection, but see the red light of the lane you went into and stop in the middle of the intersection?
Me neither, not on any road looking like this in my life (of 43yrs) in the UK...they're usually set out better than that, where certain traffic lights are for ppl coming from different directions/turnings.
@@Selendryle thats a good example wich cleared it up for me 👍
Okay cool I thought I was an ignorant American again
They teach you to be prepared to stop fact she did is safe driver we need more safe drivers on the road.❤
In our country every red light applies to you unless it is shown underwise. If it's for bikes it shows a red bike, if for pedestrians it shows a pedestrian. The system is flawed if there isn't any other indicator to whom the red light is supposed to be.
Good example of how traffic engineers make roads and signals that are too difficult for normal people to discern
I want the people who put the signs at the airport to return to parking by just following the signs they put up, not knowing anything about the road setup. The sign for which exit to take is about 50 feet before the turn after coming around a corner. If you are in the wrong lane you have to take a much longer detour.
Coming off onto a large roundabout I saw the confusion of the driver in front who stopped because he was looking at the red light for the drivers on the roundabout to the right. Then proceeded when the lights changed. Thankfully he drove off quickly so wasn't hit.
Then I had to wait for the lights to change again.
It's not always clear, especially when you're in unfamiliar territory. I find the same sometimes where a no entry sign is at a fork and it's clear where you can't go but not so clear where you can go
Maybe in GB
@JoCosGame you know when you turn right at lights (UK) and there are red lights when you turn for the traffic that have stopped while you go? That's what that red light is. But to me the confusion is that it's set so far back. Maybe it's right to stop if you're uncertain, but the point is, she is going to take a test soon, and being uncertain of the rules would be a fail.
easy brother, learn the book
For all the people who don't understand whats going on. She basically made the equivelant of a left hand turn on her green light, her stopping for this red is like if she stopped for the crossing traffic red which would/should be above you to prevent this type of confusion. The red light is for cars that are going straight on the road she just turned onto. It's a poor design and the traffic light is too far away.
The amount of people who can't understand this is scary
@@jonrogan2443 It's not. We simply don't have such dogshit ridiculous roads
@@jonrogan2443 Over here in America we have our traffic lights and crosswalks in a nice uniform square along the edges of the intersection. Not fucking 20+ meters behind it for no discernible reason.
@@gridlock2958the UK road markings, lights, rules are way too complicated and different to the rest of the world.
Thanks!
"This red light doesnt apply to you.. ill get to it in a second.."
I am still waiting...
There's another set of lights and a stop line from behind where she turned in. The red light was for them.
It's a repeater light for the junction behind them. The lack of solid white line show's that. You only stop at a red light if there is a solid white line or temp lights with a red sign.
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@@rbolwellunnecessary light.. bewn driving for 21 years and I've never seen one like it before.
@@cjmillsnunthe UK needs to stop existing if they have brain dead lights like this
We got one in Newquay, top of St George's road and I've seen many people stop in the middle of the junction making the same mistake.
"Officer, you don't understand, that red light doesn't apply to me"
😂😂😂😂
Officer: but why????
Me: ill get to that in a second...
@@jeffreyjuliano2835and then proceeds to fuk off with no explanation 🤔😆😆😆😆😆
@@jeffreyjuliano2835but really tho, when you gonna get to it 😭😭
@@lunalingo4461 In. A. SECOND!!!
Four months later:
“Why did you run that red light and plow through an entire class of fifth graders?”
“The red light didn’t apply to me”
Fr man 💀
Wait your not supposed to do that?
😭😭😭😭😭
Ooo! WOKE my mind up 😉
This is literally retarded British logic, lighted crosswalks like in my town act similar to this. But the red light doesn’t magically not apply to you because of some random traffic rule for a junction. This makes no sense
Whoever designed that road is a joke!
Uk roads are horrendous
@@808.sfx_ also some of the safest in Europe and the world
it's not just confusing. Because lights are so far away from the junction they have to be red for longer to ensure all cars passed the junction safely.
@@leonardochapman4736 Gonna be the safest if no one ain’t moving because they stopping at the wrong lights
Yeah why tf is that light so far away?
Oohhh i do that in my class😂
You were so chill about it. Love that❤
That is the sypport she needed.
She can just defend herself by saying "I was letting that man cross the road"
She can’t cuz it’s not a zebra crossing that only applies on zebra crossings
@@vansshliftss not according to the new Highway Code you can cross where you want and have priority
@@cd9475 that’s not the new Highway Code, that’s just how it always was. If a pedestrian is on the road, you have to wait for them. The new thing is that an uncontrolled junction (a turning with no lights or other crossings), you must stop and let a pedestrian who is waiting to cross go.
@@vansshliftss no. If it were a car stopped in the road, and you had ample time to stop, you’d be at fault if you hit them. Pedestrians are road users, just like cars, so if a pedestrian is on the road, and you have ample time to stop, and you hit them, you’re at fault.
@@vansshliftss yeah that's the same thing I told the person who was crossing the road not on a zebra line ,so I ran over him
I'm so glad I live and drive in a country that doesn't have such confusing roads
Which is?
@@pawemadej94not Great Britain.
Traffic light does not have a stop line...= does not apply to you..
@@suegregory9794I get it now but over here you don’t have to look for other ambiguous clues to see if the lights are meant for you.
Solving a fucking scooby doo mystery every time you encounter an intersection 😂 damn these quick time events
"this red light doesn't apply to you"
"But why?"
"I'll get to that in a second."
Surely you should've got to that before
nah, this was a test, not a lesson.
@@DaveYognauttests are nothing but lessons
@@brianbyers864 my examiners have been holding out on my mid-test answers then 😂
Honestly I'm of the opinion that these "far side" traffic lights (like they have in the USA) are really dumb.
It allows drivers to pass the stop line or cycle box, which means that pedestrians can't cross as easily.
It's also really confusing to everyone, as this video shows!
To explain the laws behind this incident:
- If the lights are on BOTH sides of the road / lane, the light applies to EVERYONE (no matter which road you came from)
- If there is only ONE traffic light (on one side of the road), that light ONLY applies to the traffic coming from where it is facing (currently waiting at the lights behind the student when they stopped).
In short: multiple lights = always stop; one light = far side light applying only to oncoming cars.
The explanation is pointless because the infinite amount of brain damage this infrastructure causes outweighs any explanation instead of just fucking fixing this 😂
I think it would have helped if you had started the video before making the turn....not mid-turn. I've been driving for 35yrs and I was confused also, but once I saw the whoie video it made perfect sense, what you said.
“Keep going, keep going”
“But it’s a red light”
“No, it’s not”
Gg you’re not deaf 👏🏾
The Driving Teacher, teached me that I'm colour blind. And i didn't know it
@@DarkSoulKing007 « teached »???
@@mouhameduzi667 Like Said she teached me that I'm colour blind. And Not to speak/write my third language perfect
"There are four lights!", Captian Picard
she was unsure and made the safe decision rather than assuming. imo that’s the correct response in to this situation
Agreed
Yup, better safe than sorry.
There's literally a hobbling man crossing the road.
the trouble is that the examiner is looking for more than just taking the "safe" option. She must be convinced that the applicant knows all the road rules, including this one, and also that she is competent to let loose on her own. You will fail for not demonstrating confidence and capability, as you should. Imagine how you feel if you pass a learner who promptly kills themselves or others for some silly failure behind the wheel.
@tonycook7679 of course but I'd rather someone only be confident if they truly know what's the right and wrong thing to be doing. Confidence while driving is 100% very important. Hesitation can cause an accident as much as ignorance, but making confident mistakes is way worse.
Way easier to avoid accidents with a driver that won't take the right of way when it should vs a driver that will take the right of way when it shouldn't. Even if they're stopping at a green light, that's safer and easier for everyone around them to handle than running a red light. It's still Incredibly dangerous to do but if you have safe stopping distance then you'll have plenty of time to see the car ahead and stop before you crash even if it's just sitting still.
I'm not saying this deserves a pass on the test but as far as mentality and how that driver driver defaults to not make rushed decisions and would rather take thinfs slow is a sign that they're thinking safely and won't make a knee jerk reaction when things get confusing or stressful. Half of driving safely is knowing the rules, the other half is just paying attention and having a good reaction to when other people don't follow the rules
If you do not pass her I will throw more tea on that goddamn Harbor
Hahahah
BAHAHHA ACTUAL FUNNY COMMENT
W comment
Boston Tea Party, nice
HAHAHA
How do you have so many different camera cues. Views? Very impressive insight into the level of concentration needed when driving
I've been driving for 13 years and have never seen one of those. How utterly stupid! I'd have stopped, too.
13 yrs ain’t long bro
I have been driving for 42 years and have ALWAYS stopped at ALL red lights! I live in the U.S., but THIS apparently is in BRITIAN, where they drive like idiots and drive through red lights!!! Lol!!!
@@Serena22245have a kid and see how far a kid comes in 13 years and try say that again
She had come from the right. That red light is for the cars going straight it's like kind of like how in America you can turn right even if the lights are red...
@@demisavage8882Except she's not turning. She's going straight when she comes to the red light, and the red light is clearly for a pedestrian walk. UK has shitty road laws lmao.
Keep going, keep going, keep going… As a very clear and obvious pedestrian approaches to cross.
Right?! Terrible communication. If I see something I’m not going to hit it, how do I know if she sees the old man coming for us unless she said, “don’t worry about him keep going.”
She had five full seconds to go before he even was at half of the crossing
The pedestrian is not blind either bro , she she could've easily went before the pedestrian could even reach that side of the road and pedestrians need to be responsible as well
@@Caspian_Xx in the EU cars must stop when a pedestrian starts crossing the street.
@@Loremila no she didn't
I love that part where she explains how that light doesn’t apply
That light isn't for the learner car. The reason for that is because there are no road markings to indicate a stop line from where the learner has come from. It is, in fact, an "advanced signal" for the traffic already at a red light prior to where the learner joins. So rather than straining your neck to see what the traffic light is doing when next to it, there's a light further on to reference.
Look up advanced traffic signals, UK.
@@haggishunter893 Man y’all’s countries are backwards and upside down lol
@@haggishunter893but why have advanced driving rules 😂
It's shows the city centers with less death for rules. Have way less vehicle death
@hypotheticalsinglewoody it's not advanced rules, it's advanced traffic signals, so cars can get right up to stop line and not have to strain themselves to see when their light turns green.
@@haggishunter893you can’t assume someone who’s crossing a street and not even looking left or right is going to stop lol
Amazing!! In Perth, Western Australia, we have many people who are newly settled from the UK. Our road rules are different from the rules shown in the video clip and can explain why many pedestrians & tourists are nearly killed or have experienced driver's rage here in Perth, Australia. When crossing the road in Australia, pedestrians press the button, wait until the green man appears, and then walk. If you are still walking across the road & the red man begins to flick on & off, the pedestrian still has the right to proceed until they finish crossing. A pedestrian can not enter the crossing if the red man is already flickering. A driver turning left always gives way to the pedestrian already on the road. However, if there's a set of pedestrian registration buttons on traffic lights in the middle on the road, then the pedestrian begins the procedure of crossing the road anew. I can't tell you how many born & bred aussie pedestrians I've had to 'save' from cars that proceed to turn or don't give way to pedestrians. Now, I know where it comes from. Wow!
"This red light doesn't apply to you."
That's what my instructor told me officer.
Officer: "yea thats what they all say"
Same officer, down at the station: "that's the 9th one this week who said that!"
“But why” I felt that
But why
It's an awkward road in Park Royal next Asda. Yh she's defo meant to go thru the light but she probably didn't know the area why she didn't. That light ain't for turning cars
I have watched this video 10 times and I honestly honestly have been Driveing in the UK for many years would’ve stopped at that red light
there is no solid white line. The solid white line indicates where you are supposed to stop if there isn't one you don't need to stop
How long you been spelling for?
no you wouldn't, unless you have never driven in a t junction with traffic lights before, this video just misses the initial part where she enters the junction
Same trying to understand how the fuck you wouldn't stop at this light what in the Failing Economy is going on here, we train drivers to run red and crush pedestrians
@@michaelmcilhone1452 what a small minded little person you genuinely are
I saw the full video and damn UK roads is crazy lmao
These are junction exit lights however a crossing has been added which makes them look like part of a light controlled crossing. Whoever designed this needs to be fired, it is at best confusing and at worst dangerous for pedestrians.
Yup you are right. there is a difference tho light controlled crossings have lights at the side of the road not the Center that’s usually reserved for exit junction lights
Forgive me, I'm not british, but what purpose do junction exit lights serve and why are they in the center of this two lane road?
@@harleymoore441 I actually have a junction near me where the exit lights were repurposed as a crossing so it isn't unheard of. That junction is really dangerous too as the pedestrians and drivers have no clue what is going on and I have seen a couple of near misses.
@@schrodingerscat1863 oh cool I hadn’t even thought about repurposed lights that’s a good shout
@@baschoen23 A little bit farther back from where the driver stopped is another path that just goes straight to the light instead of turning, but they have a solid line so they have to abide by the red light. The driver already drove through a green light before making the turn, and this repeating red light isn't for her. It's kind of like a 3 way intersection but both the left and right lights are on the right side.
In Japan, whether there is red light or not, for as long as there's a pedestrian, drivers always stopped to check. It's always about safety 😅
What seems common in Japan but weird in many other countries is that Japan has crossroads with green lights active for both pedestrians and drivers turning. Pedestrians always have the right of way and drivers must stop in front of the zebra lines even when it's green light.
@@SPJ-88 Im pretty sure that those same rules apply to most European countries as well
That’s some cap lmao
@@thomasmcdevitt253nah bruv. Maybe in another country. But in Japan, 101% believable!! If you been, then you'll understand why
@@apocalypsenow1871 in Japan if you rape someone and they go on social media and talk about you can sue them. The people in Japan aren’t that good dude
Red Light: 🔴
Instructor: It's not a red light 💀
It's a red light but it's for traffic from the other direction. It's to stop them and give her the right of way. Because with busy T Junctions and things it would be like trying to turn into a constant traffic flow. There wouldn't be a gap to safely go into and you would have to litteraly push your way into the flow and force other cars to stop, if there wasn't the traffic lights.
@@sillyface6950It should be angled so the people who it doesn't apply to aren't directly faced.
she's delusional lol
First she claims the red light isn't red when it clearly is but then all of a sudden she claims the non red, red light does not apply to her
She prolly took shrooms one day but remained stuck in her trip ever since -_-
The lights are for oncoming traffic opposite the light, the junction she just turned in from had it's own light which was green at the turning.
“This red light doesn’t apply to you”
Sounds like something your attorney would try and convince people of in court.
sounds more like Obi Wan "these are not the droids you are looking for"
Now that isn't even her fault. That looks super confusing
No, it does _not_ look confusing. It looks downright deceitful.
@@cisium1184 😂
Light after a light, crosswalk, and the massive amount of red construction warnings, just asking for an accident to happen.
Whoever placed the traffic lights in the UK must've been high as fuck.
Nah its really obvious when you're not micro focusing 3 inches in front of yourself (as learners tend to do naturally) and you are aware of the junction from an earlier stage.
@@CoyoteBoyUKTheres no logical reason the red light should be placed there instead of the forefront of an intersection. Sure, if you've grown up around roads like this, then its obvious. But just because something works doesn't mean it should. The only reason I can see them placing the red light far foward is because of the crosswalk, but apparently the light has no effect to that crosswalk, so what the fuck UK.
@@SmithenJW04k Couple of points you don't see from the video (of course, edited to get best reaction), which probably drives your mis-understanding of the layout. This red light is a repeater signal for a primary red light behind the camera car (while it waits for the pedestrian). You can't see this red from the car's starting position, only once you turn into the junction, at which point you're not meant to stop - you only ENTER a junction when it's clear for you to exit. You only stop if the red light shows toward you when there's a solid white line in your lane, as you can see - there isn't one. The crosswalk has its own control over the lights, and only stops traffic if someone presses the button, at which point it would stop ALL lanes that could allow traffic to cross that crosswalk. It's all very logical and functions just fine. This junction is quite long, which means that the learner has dropped out of "junction" mode in their head and gone back into "driving along the road" mode, and sees the repeater as a new signal, not part of the original that they entered, most aren't like this, but the rules still cover this - there's no white line in the road so this light does not relate to you at this point. Of course you'd always stop for the pedestrian crossing anyway, so this "fail" isn't really justified, especially not under the new UK laws where pedestrians crossing normal roads always have priority.
@@CoyoteBoyUKI'm sorry, but shouldn't the repeater light still be placed closer to the start of the road markings? As in closer to the traffic it applies to, like the opposite lane of the dashcam vehicle. I understand that it's supposed to make it easier for the person at the front of the red lights, but placing it this far back seems like it would create unnecessary confusion.
@@SmithenJW04k That's what I meant by it being a long junction and a little unusual, but still covered by the "no solid line, so this light doesn't apply to you" rule, it can't be placed closer because that would be in the middle of the junction and would be inhibiting larger traffic which needs the space to turn (you'd have to put an island and a bollard etc, we don't have hanging repeaters here really and you can't just whap a pole in the roadway because of impact risks). If you're not a new driver, it's intuitive to know where to stop because you're not in an unfamiliar environment - the line-before-lights rule doesn't need to be thought about, because it's second nature once you've driven for a few weeks. I have absolutely made this mistake as a seasoned driver here, but not come to a full stop - just had a moment of "oops...oh, not my lights, carry on".
"I'll get to that in a second, ok". I'm still holding my breath.
It's a T-Junction.
The street that the driver comes out of at the start of the video has it's own set of lights and by the point in the video, they would've been green.
The lights that we see in the video are repeated lights for the cars that are to the left (or behind the driver after she comes into the road fully).
The driver in this instance has right of way, but because she stopped, the pedestrian continued to cross.
The rule that catches us out is a solid line across at the lights means stop if light is red but if no line at lights then ignore them, seems it is not taught.but only at these repeater lights, all other traffic lights must be obeyed. See the follow up video.
loved the part where you tell us why
Lol
True!
But she promised to get to that in a second.
Guessing it was a lighted t junction and the red light was the duplicate light for the cars that would be waiting to the left of them
She just turned at a T junction, that light is for the traffic that is going straight along the road she turned onto.
If you fail someone for that, and the driver doesn’t even know, it’s not wrong with them. It’s with the learning system and it’s employees.
Not thee actual Amber couldn't be could it Johnny 😂
And your lawyer and your shallowness
Bruh never thought I’d see amber herd with the W take😂
It’s a test… not a class
From what I’ve seen from these RUclips instructors they love failing people and causing anxiety
Something really interesting thats different between england and my country is, we have to stop when a pedestrian as 2 meters from the crossing. But it isnt like that in england
Failing somebody for being safe is wild.
And unnecessary. Should of been classed as a "Minor" mistake especially because of the confusing layout.
No, randomly stopping too cautiously causes collisions.
@yegventures pretty sure it's not your fault if someone rams into you for stopping at a red light
Please stop believing everything in videos, realise that it's 95 % griftning and ragebait now adays. She's not 'failing', it's a driving lesson.
@@yegventures Too cautiously? There's a red light