I recommend you check your chain for stretch. Mine was done at 8k miles. It had stretched beyond its service life. I am working on a video that will show how to check it and change everything out. I rode my 390 Adv to LA Paz Baja with camping gear. It's a perfect bike for this type of travel for me. I do a lot offroad adventure riding on this bike and it has been great for that too. I need to look at your other videos to see what issues you have experienced. I haven't had any major issues, just a few small things.
Hello Matt, Solid advice. I replaced the chain, and both sprockets after this trip. (I did not film it) Just over 7500 miles on them. I found the front sprocket well made and in OK shape. The rear was noticeably worn. Of possible interest to owners, none of the rear sprocket bolts were torqued down! I followed your Baja trip, it looked like a blast. I am enjoying the 390, and its meeting my needs. The chain is my only major issue so far, it been treating me well as long as I am super careful with the threads when removing and replacing bolts. I also did replace the front springs. The stock were fine until I loaded up with camping gear! Thank you, Frank
Hello Matt, update on the new chain and sprockets: About 2500 miles and I have had to adjust only three times. 1200 of those miles were high speed on pavement. Very satisfied. - Frank
I rode 1500 km's in one shot last summer on my 390. Fully loaded with camping gear, tools, and extra fuel. Had cushioned bike shorts on under my riding pants and added a seat cushion. Was more tired than sore at the end of the ride... Absolutely love this bike...
I also just completed the continental divide trail about two months ago on this fantastic adventure bike it was flawless and brought me back home to Texas with a smile. I have no problem with the factory seat after 8 to 10 hours in the saddle . In a pick up truck I’m ready to get out of it in 8 to 10 hours. While riding the continental divide trail there are hundreds and hundreds of miles with bad washboard roads. It will finish off a good chain in no time. Camping off this bike depends entirely on how much camping gear you pile on top of it just like any other bike. People have said this is a low budget bike but this low budget bike absolutely proved itself on the continental divide trail. You can easily spend a whole lot more money for another bike but at the end of the day it’s all about the smiles. HAPPY TRAILS
Congratulations on completing the continental divide! Honestly, my bike has 9600 miles in it and literally the chain is the only part that has not met my expectations. And every other bike I have owned are Japanese and reliable. So my expectations are high. I did snap my skidplate bracket in the front, but that was abuse due to how I was riding it, not a failure. I will be in line when the 490 Adventure is released. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I also rate Japanese bikes as number one, also I’ll have my name on the first 490 that comes in at my local dealership if it remains to be as light or lighter in weight then my 390. This is my first KTM and so far so good. It has meet and surpassed my expectations. My other bike is a CRF450L I don’t try to ride my KTM like my CRF and I don’t try to ride my CRF like my 390 ADV
@@michaelh6002 Hello Michael, I found keeping the 390 Aventure in the lane on the SOuth Dakota plaines a chore. If the 490 is say, #425 I will be very pleased. A little more weight for those high crosswinds will help. I was riding with guys that were #500 and up, and the winds were much less of an issue with more weight to the bike. - Frank
I just returned from a 3,400 mile trip on my 390 ADV that included the COBDR. Knobby tires, 14t front sprocket, new DID chain, stiff suspension settings, and full camping gear. The bike handled all the off road stuff magnificently. I couldn’t be happier. No mechanical troubles at all but I prepped the bike thoroughly beforehand. The 1,000 miles of blacktop to Colorado and the 1,400 miles home, not so much. I do not enjoy this bike much over 70mph. It’s too susceptible to turbulence, even from passenger cars. I’ve owned several other small bikes and none of them had the handlebar oscillation this bike has at 75mph with just the slightest traffic turbulence. And I’ve experienced it regardless of luggage, tires, and suspension settings. In Wyoming I fought 30mph crosswinds and it was exhausting on this little machine. In Utah I battled 45mph crosswinds for over 100 miles on I-80 and it was harrowing on this bike, to say the least. The KTM 390 ADV is far better for true adventure riding than my WR250R was but it’s still not the Goldilocks bike I was hoping for.
Hello Battle, that sounds like an amazing trip. I hear you about the crosswinds. I recently went to South Dakota to meet four other riders. I chose to bring the 390on a carrier due to the plans states. I made two trips from the Black Hills to the Badlands and the crosswinds were brutal. I had to slow the group down as I just id not feel safe going over 65 MPH in them. Perhaps the 490 Adventure will have enough weight to keep the bike comfortable in higher winds. My KLR650 was about 450 lbs. and it was significantly more stable. That's what I am hoping for with the 490. 450 when loaded. Right now KTM cannot be beat (IMHO) with ADV bike for the buck - Frank
@@Frikzter Interesting. I wouldn’t have predicted that. I just ordered a steering damper kit for (from Best Dual Sport Bikes), which I will install this weekend. I’m hoping that corrects the issue.
Most riders say to replace the chain before you start riding it. Otherwise the origianl cheap chain stretches super fast and then a new rear sprocket will be required and possibly a new front sprocket also. A good aftermarket chain will last at least 3 times longer as will the sprockets. Also many riders say to check every nut and bolt on the bike before ever riding the 390 as the factory seems to miss tightening many bolts. Even frame bolts.
Hello Human, I have to agree with most or not all of that while my bikes bolts were originally tight, by 5K miles, I was rmeocing and applying loctite to many of them. And the new chain has performed well! - Frank
I just found your channel, Age is almost the same and I just bought the 2020 model. So far I love and just started Rideing again. Cool channel thank's for the video
a couple things about the chain. 1) New chains break in...even "pre-stretched" chains. Having to adjust it mid trip is not out of the norm. 2) I wonder if you accidentally set the chain too tight to begin with. Doing so greatly increases chain sprocket wear and can even lead to chain, bearing, or output shaft failure.
Hello, This was the factory chain with almost 6K on it. Its very possible I had it a little too tight after the first tightening. The manual states you need to have the rear wheel on a wheel stand and then measure 5-7mm from the swing arm. This does lead to a "loose" looking chain, compared to my other bikes. And as I only have a trail stand when on trips, I cannot be truly sure its 100% within that 5.7mm window. Excellent point about the chain stretch. I put a new DID chain on, with a new 47T rear, and new standard front sprocket last night and then rode 75 miles. Sure enough at the end of the ride, I am out of the 5-7mm spec, and will adjust before the next ride.
@@OneOldManRiding yeah these ktms have a rather finicky chain tension. My 1090 has a very thick chain guide which makes it very difficult to get a proper measurement. A good tip is to remove the bottom shock bolt, then cycle the rear through its travel. Tightest point should be when outputshaft, swingarm pivot, and rear axle are all In a straight line. You will be able to tell instantly if your settings are too tight or not. Then, when you put the bike back on the ground you can take thay measurement and be 100% sure it's correct for next time.
Just an update for ya. New chain and sprockets went on this week, and I took the bike on a 460 mile Motocamping trip, chain was still in spec when I returned. Very pleased!
@Paul B Hello Paul, It seems KTM India does not use a quality chain. The number of users under 8-8K miles who report needing a new chain on the 390 FB groups is alarming. IMHO, if you buy a 390 bike, buy a chain as well! -Frank
I really like the footage that you used in this video. I was very interested in the 390 Adventure, but when it came time to pull the plug, I bought a Himalayan. I sold my Africa Twin to buy this. I'd be curious to see how you loaded your bike, as this was one of my concerns about the KTM. I seldom camp any more. I'm 67 years old, and I've done enough camping. I like hotels and motels.
Hello Gerald, I enjoy the 390, but the Himalayan does the exact same job, and probably has more torque for heavier loads. I do need to do a packing video. Nothing wrong with a nice hotel room! I am going south later this year for some riding, and while I will camp when on the ride, I will be staying in hotels on the way up and back! - Frank
Hello ROTW, IMHO it's a lot better than the stats (Single cylinder, only 43HP) would suggest. Just truly NEEDS an aftermarket seat! Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
Super bike I just completed the Continual Divide Trail on mine and then took a long route back home to TX from Canada covering 7000 miles on this trip and the bike performed flawlessly. But yes the seat sucks I have an airhawk seat pad.
Hello Lane, I am very glad to hear about your 7K mile trip. I am leaving on the 15th for a 5K mile trip and had not really heard of anyone making a long journey on the bike. - Frank
@@tylerclayburn8688 Hello Tyler, that must have been a beautiful ride. I did an 1100 mile trip through Pennsylvania last week. It's a great time of year for longer trips! - Frank
Oh and by the way if you look under your seat KTM has put a great tool kit there for you to do things such as adjusting your chain. Not only is the tool kit sufficient but I did not take any additional tools or need them on my continental divide ride.
Hello Michael, I have never opened the tool kit! Doh! I religiously carry my tools now. I recently did 1200+ miles in South Dakota. I checked my chain daily, and only had to adjust it once. So pretty pleased with the new chain and sprockets. They have almost 2500 miles on them now. - Frank
Thanks for the video and the tips are absolute necessary for a long trip drive. Anything you want to suggest for the maintenance of KTM 2020 model as I bought 2nd hand? Thankss~
Hello Jijosan, the main thing to keep an eye on is the chain and rear sprocket. I feel both are no great quality. And do change the oil every 4.5K, it gets BLACK. Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
Thanks for the video. I also fell for all the hype about this bike. I only have 500 miles on mine and I am thinking really seriously about just getting out now so I don't take to big of a $ hit. My other bike is a WR250R and I got the 390 thinking it would be a better bike for the freeway sections. It is definitely better than the WR on freeway but my feeling is the bike is unreliable junk. I think a large number of KTM fan boys have never owned a Yamaha or Honda and don't realize what a quality bike is. Once I get this out of the garage I will NEVER own another KTM. IMHO KTM is the Range Rover of motorcycles.
Hello John, Thanks for the input. I do enjoy the virtually maintenance experience I get from my Yamaha FZ1, and Honda CRF250L. That said, The 390 Adventure is a budget bike and I have been able to have a great deal of fun with it.
@@billh4301 Hello Bill, OTD varies by area of course. It was 7.1K OTD in mine. (Upstate NY) The only bike I could have spent less on that would about the same would be the Royal Enfield Himalayan. And its power is considerably lower, so its on road would suffer. Comparably priced in my area would be a CB500X, which would be superior on road, but the weight and suspension would be lesser off-road. Sadly the days of inexpensive bikes is behind us.- Frank
@@OneOldManRiding good price! In CALIFORNIA 8k is it. I have 2013 Triumph 1200 explorer XC with 10k miles I paid 9300 for. Could not pay almost as much for 390.
@@billh4301 Hello Bill, I can certainly understand that! There has to be value, and part of that is certainly looking at what you can get for approx. the same cost. - Frank
That trip to Acadia was quite an accomplishment. It’s interesting that the bike motor is such good quality and paired to poor quality elsewhere. You are braver than me for sure on using it for long trips. Have you considered a change to either a CB500X or VStrom 650XT? Both are reported to be more durable. Nice video with useful information for anyone considering a KTM390 Adventure.
@John Currie Was that your bike in the video? I have no doubt the small bike is a fun ride as evidenced by other videos on this channel. Long high speed runs may push it to or past it’s limit. A chain failure could lead to a serious injury or fatality. I have no doubts that the video creator maintains his bikes well. Maybe it’s just this one bike with that issue, maybe not. Both the CB500X and VStrom 650 are notoriously reliable, although I’m sure there are some of those with an occasional issue too. Admittedly, both those bikes are more expensive and heavier. 🤣
Hello VTrack. The motor seems to be a rock. I think I would pass on the 500X, while I am a fan on Honda, It does not offer as many features as the VStrom 650. I really like the weight of my 390 Adventure, and am hoping the upcoming KTM 490 will still be a relatively lite bike.
Hello E4, I agree, at least most of the times that's a good temp. I am a wimp when to comes to cold AND rain though. Once I am getting rained in, anything below 65 irks me 😁 Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
Hello Bike Life, I cannot agree more. When I get questions about buying a 390 Adventure, as in what to look out for, I recomend replacing the chain if buying new, and sprockets and chain if it is used. I did find that my front sprocket was in very good shape, but the rear was toast along with the chain. - Frank
The problem with the westerners is you guys are spoilt with money and comfort. I have done 500 miles with my NS200, which is half of KTM 390 and now I am upgrading to 390 ADV. You are complaining of 390 adv quality...just hold there. N200 is Indian manufactured 200cc, 24 bhp, 19 NM torque, no ABS, no slip assist clutch, no, quick shifter, sporty seating position, no adjustable suspension, about 230 kms range tank, crusing speed 60 MPH and everything much lesser than KTM 390 ADV. It's all about the rider skills. That said, I appreciate that you guys still love 390 ADV. Love your channel ❤️
Hello Santosh, you are not wrong sir. As they say "first works problems" I have been to South America where folks are doing everything on 125 cc bikes. We are very fortunate to ve able to complain! I love my 390 and hope you love your new bike! - Frank
Good candid review, thanks. What other reliability issues have you had with this bike? This my number one obstacle to replacing a Japanese bike with this.
Hello Lou, at this point in time (About a year, bike has almost 8K miles), the chain and rear sprocket are the only parts I have had an issue with. - Frank
Hey man question for you. How would you compare the 390 vs the klr that you had on comfort and vibration at speeds from 55 to 70. Also do you think your happy with the ktm overall compared to the klr that you had? I have watched several 390 adventure videos lately and of course adv Matt's channel also.
Hello Marshall, I owned a 2006 KLR650 a few years ago. The 390 vibration is less than the older ones. I feel its slightly less than your Gen3, due to your rubber mounted footpegs and bars. If you removed those, I expect the engine, which is mostly unchanged, would vibrate much more than the 390. That said, I rode my KLR650 and loved it, the vibration IMHO is overblown for single cylinder engines. Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding o ok thank you man. I haven't removed any of the rubber mounted parts on my gene 3 but I did put a Kawasaki low seat on mine. I wonder if the seat is making worse because of it having less padding? And none of my local dealerships have a demo 390 adventure available and there isnt any for on rider share or twisted road either. How do you like your 390 compared to to your 06 klr?
@@marshall3498 Hello Marshall, I prefer the 390. I did not have the fairing your version has, that's a big factor. Overall, I like having the ABS and traction control, both lean sensitive, as well as the lower weight. From picking it up, to just moving it around when on an incline... being 70# lighter is a great. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding so in your opinion if I traded my klr in a ktm 390 adventure do you think I would be happy with ktm instead? I have really been watching alot of ktm 390 adventure reviews lately after watching big rock moto review of the ktm 390 adventure he just uploaded it on Monday lol.
Sounds like you camp off of your adventure just like I camp off my 390 Duke, another old man, same distances and loading. Am always checking the chain and have had it loosen on me a few times but not excessively and just have to ask that your adjusting your chain tension when the rear wheel is suspended off the ground? Also, coming from a KLR650 to my Duke 390 and making the switch based on asking myself the question of weather I spent the most time on pavement or dirt. The answer for me was by far pavement and doing the switch made the enjoyment of my ride advance by a quantum leap.
Hello Raven. Glad to hear from a moto camper! I imagine your bike is the same as mine, correct me if I am wrong, but KTM wants the slack set with the bike on a stand. Not really an option most of the time! So I set my slack properly on the stand, then put the bike on my emergency stand and the kickstand. Measured and marked a paint stick and I use that to check the chain. The mm is not identical, but it should be accurate enough. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I just have a regular street 390 Duke, but have the best fun moto camping like you!! Sounds like you have the adjustment process down, I can't figure out why that would be occurring to you. Dave
@@hank4787 Hello Raven, I forgot to mention, the replacement chain has not been a problem. It may have been my initial tensioning was loose, and I damaged the sprocket... or it was just a bad chain. Either way, new chain is treating me well. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding You know I don't miss any aspect of my old KLR650 and unlike yours mine was a 2013 year. My thing is back country twisty roads and it's where this Duke 390 comes alive. Used to have to coax the KLR through the turns but the Duke sets them up almost automatically. Ideal speed range sweet spot seems to be between 25 and 40 MPH. I haul the Duke around on the back of my 17' trailer and try and satisfy my twisted addiction where ever I go, my wife just shakes her head. it's amazing how many beautiful seldom traveled roads there are in America. What's your comparison of your old KLR and your Duke?
I put a chain oiler on my bike from new and after watching the ADV Matt video decided to change my chain at about 3500 miles. It hadn't stretched that much and I wonder if the chain oiler helped? Anyway did a 400 mile journey after fitting the chain and only it only needed a slight adjustment afterwards which is expected with a new chain anyway. I think a good quality chain is essential on any chain driven bike being an engineer I deal with a lot of chain driven machinery. The spanner for undiong the back wheel in the KTM tool kit is made of 'cheese' and I intend to carry a decent spanner when I go on my next continental tour.
Hello Mooky, I imagine the oiler is going to extend the life. I had a chain oiler on my VSTrom when traveling 5000 miles from Oregon to New York. It was great never having to maintain the chain, and I never had to adjust it either. - Frank
I thought I was subscribed to you but apparently not! Fixed that. Kinda disappointed to hear another negative report on build quality. The engine and tech on the 390 seems way ahead of similar sized (and priced) competitors’ offerings, but reliability is still king when you are adventuring.
Lock tight.. Chains, how to lube.. Best axle grease you can get. Mix with gasoline, put chain into gas grease mix. Soak for 5-10 minutes. Let dry. Job done, chain has been greased. Save the mix for next time. Old school but that is how it is done. O-ring BS. The gas wont hurt o-rings. So what. Your getting grease inside and you know it. Have you ever opened a new sealed bearing? The grease you find is crap and very little of it. I repack all my sealed bearings with mobil 1 grease. Thy just work after that.
@@OneOldManRiding So far soo good! Ive put just under 1000 miles on it so far with no issues outside of the commonly known ones. Ive been building it up with panniers and a back rack to do some camping trips. Ill be following you for some ideas!
@@mattycampos4412 Hello Matty, glad to hear you will be getting some camping in. Its a great bike for camping. Enough power, and relatively low weight for getting up into the woods. I have helped two Africa Twin owners lift their bikes in the woods camping this year! - Frank
Hello Jonas, Primarily the quality of the metal. Parts bend more easily than you would expect, several of the threads on my bike were crossthreaded from the factory, and bolts seem to be of poor quality. The bike is great and its holding up well overall, however, if you are coming from Japanese, or European made KTMs, there is a difference in quality that is noticeable. For the money though, I do not think you can do better. - Frank
Hello Wijaya, overall I am very impressed. It's just heavy enough to handle high winds on the highway, and with the Powerparts seat, pretty capable. It does vibrate enough that I would say 400 miles is the max for a comfortable ride. It started to get to me after that. - Frank
Hello Cirian, it certainly seems so. I spend some time in the 390 Adventure FB Group, and replacing the chain at 7-8K is a common commonly. Which is certainly too soon to be replacing a well made chain! Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
Hello Mike, this is the Givi 7710D. It requires a mount (D7711KIT.) Thats a good thing, as it's what keeps it from vibrating like many of the screens that just use the two factory bolts. - Frank amzn.to/3wP8cH1
Hello Ramesh, I have read of some folks running past 10K on the 390 Adventure Facebook group. But they seem to be the exception! Fortunately chains are not expensive. Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
Hello Roland, do you mean movement? As in you can shift it around a bit? The bike has a cush drive, that could be the normal play from that. Essentially the sprocket has rubber spacers being it. It allows it to move. - Frank
Hello! I am using the KTM Powerparts seat. I have 5K miles on it and I am quite satisfied with it. It does add over an inch to the seat height though, just something to be aware of. www.ktmperformance.com/seat-en-41.html
@@OneOldManRiding Nice, thank you for the link! Yeah I got the 390 back in May and definitely notice the seat being pretty stiff and rough like you mentioned. I get the balls of my feet down but I’d sacrifice an inch for some extra comfort I believe bc I’d like to take it on longer trips eventually. Thanks for the quick reply :)
@@crayb89 Hello Cray, In my ADV boots I am just on the balls of my feet with the Powerparts seat, If I am in my street boots I am on my ties. But its worth it to have a comfortable seat!
Worst build quality I have encountered of any motorcycle I have owned. Nine months of ownership I've just sold it and felt no regret at seeing it go. KTM Philippines big fail, you just lost a prospective 1290R owner.
Hello Cliff, the bike is made of questionable metals to be sure. I have friends with the 1090, and the build quality is impressive. I imagine the truly expensive ones all do. Its more work to own a 390, but I did get to keep a lot of my $$$$ the other KTM bike would have needed! - Frank
I really lose faith with Americans. This bike is a giant bike in most of the world just because Americans think anything under 1000cc is a toy. I have ridden two hundred miles on mine between fuel stops on the original seat never had any problems. Never had anything fall of the bike, probably because I actually check the bike properly before I do any distance like I would with any bike. I will agree the chain isn't the best but the first thing I fitted as I do with all chain driven bikes is fit a chain oiler. 900mile is not really that far I normally do three or four thousand miles on a tour each summer in Europe and never had any real problems. I have done similar trips each year on a series of much larger bikes of European and Japanese make and it works just as well. Much cheaper to run, much lighter and can easily top the legal speed limits if necessary. Got all the luggage on it that I used to have on my bigger bikes and is much better on fire roads and other light off road tracks.
Hello Mark, obviously I can onky speak from my personal experience, and you yours. My favorite bike is my 250cc, which as an American I realize is 125cc more than most motorcycles in Central and South America, and most European countries I have been to. I have no experience with a chain oiler, as all of my previous bikes ha e been Japanese manufacturers, cleaning and oiling has never been an issue and the chains last 32K kilometers before needing to be replaced. Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comment. - Frank
I recommend you check your chain for stretch. Mine was done at 8k miles. It had stretched beyond its service life. I am working on a video that will show how to check it and change everything out. I rode my 390 Adv to LA Paz Baja with camping gear. It's a perfect bike for this type of travel for me. I do a lot offroad adventure riding on this bike and it has been great for that too. I need to look at your other videos to see what issues you have experienced. I haven't had any major issues, just a few small things.
Hello Matt,
Solid advice. I replaced the chain, and both sprockets after this trip. (I did not film it) Just over 7500 miles on them. I found the front sprocket well made and in OK shape. The rear was noticeably worn. Of possible interest to owners, none of the rear sprocket bolts were torqued down!
I followed your Baja trip, it looked like a blast. I am enjoying the 390, and its meeting my needs. The chain is my only major issue so far, it been treating me well as long as I am super careful with the threads when removing and replacing bolts. I also did replace the front springs. The stock were fine until I loaded up with camping gear!
Thank you,
Frank
Hello Matt, update on the new chain and sprockets: About 2500 miles and I have had to adjust only three times. 1200 of those miles were high speed on pavement. Very satisfied. - Frank
Well, see whom I see here. Hello Matt, I have watched 4 episodes of your Baja videos.
Lots of love from India to both of you good guys.
I rode 1500 km's in one shot last summer on my 390. Fully loaded with camping gear, tools, and extra fuel. Had cushioned bike shorts on under my riding pants and added a seat cushion. Was more tired than sore at the end of the ride... Absolutely love this bike...
Thanks for posting. Best wishes Steve.
I also just completed the continental divide trail about two months ago on this fantastic adventure bike it was flawless and brought me back home to Texas with a smile. I have no problem with the factory seat after 8 to 10 hours in the saddle . In a pick up truck I’m ready to get out of it in 8 to 10 hours. While riding the continental divide trail there are hundreds and hundreds of miles with bad washboard roads. It will finish off a good chain in no time. Camping off this bike depends entirely on how much camping gear you pile on top of it just like any other bike. People have said this is a low budget bike but this low budget bike absolutely proved itself on the continental divide trail. You can easily spend a whole lot more money for another bike but at the end of the day it’s all about the smiles. HAPPY TRAILS
Congratulations on completing the continental divide! Honestly, my bike has 9600 miles in it and literally the chain is the only part that has not met my expectations. And every other bike I have owned are Japanese and reliable. So my expectations are high.
I did snap my skidplate bracket in the front, but that was abuse due to how I was riding it, not a failure.
I will be in line when the 490 Adventure is released. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I also rate Japanese bikes as number one, also I’ll have my name on the first 490 that comes in at my local dealership if it remains to be as light or lighter in weight then my 390. This is my first KTM and so far so good. It has meet and surpassed my expectations. My other bike is a CRF450L I don’t try to ride my KTM like my CRF and I don’t try to ride my CRF like my 390 ADV
@@michaelh6002 Hello Michael, I found keeping the 390 Aventure in the lane on the SOuth Dakota plaines a chore. If the 490 is say, #425 I will be very pleased. A little more weight for those high crosswinds will help. I was riding with guys that were #500 and up, and the winds were much less of an issue with more weight to the bike. - Frank
I just returned from a 3,400 mile trip on my 390 ADV that included the COBDR. Knobby tires, 14t front sprocket, new DID chain, stiff suspension settings, and full camping gear. The bike handled all the off road stuff magnificently. I couldn’t be happier. No mechanical troubles at all but I prepped the bike thoroughly beforehand. The 1,000 miles of blacktop to Colorado and the 1,400 miles home, not so much. I do not enjoy this bike much over 70mph. It’s too susceptible to turbulence, even from passenger cars. I’ve owned several other small bikes and none of them had the handlebar oscillation this bike has at 75mph with just the slightest traffic turbulence. And I’ve experienced it regardless of luggage, tires, and suspension settings. In Wyoming I fought 30mph crosswinds and it was exhausting on this little machine. In Utah I battled 45mph crosswinds for over 100 miles on I-80 and it was harrowing on this bike, to say the least. The KTM 390 ADV is far better for true adventure riding than my WR250R was but it’s still not the Goldilocks bike I was hoping for.
Hello Battle, that sounds like an amazing trip. I hear you about the crosswinds. I recently went to South Dakota to meet four other riders. I chose to bring the 390on a carrier due to the plans states. I made two trips from the Black Hills to the Badlands and the crosswinds were brutal. I had to slow the group down as I just id not feel safe going over 65 MPH in them.
Perhaps the 490 Adventure will have enough weight to keep the bike comfortable in higher winds. My KLR650 was about 450 lbs. and it was significantly more stable. That's what I am hoping for with the 490. 450 when loaded. Right now KTM cannot be beat (IMHO) with ADV bike for the buck - Frank
Apparently the steering is more stable with spoked wheels. Might be partially weight, but I think there is an aerodynamic factor as well.
@@Frikzter Interesting. I wouldn’t have predicted that. I just ordered a steering damper kit for (from Best Dual Sport Bikes), which I will install this weekend. I’m hoping that corrects the issue.
Most riders say to replace the chain before you start riding it. Otherwise the origianl cheap chain stretches super fast and then a new rear sprocket will be required and possibly a new front sprocket also. A good aftermarket chain will last at least 3 times longer as will the sprockets.
Also many riders say to check every nut and bolt on the bike before ever riding the 390 as the factory seems to miss tightening many bolts. Even frame bolts.
Hello Human, I have to agree with most or not all of that while my bikes bolts were originally tight, by 5K miles, I was rmeocing and applying loctite to many of them. And the new chain has performed well! - Frank
What Brand Chain do you use? a lot of chains a China crap!! soft Metal
I just found your channel,
Age is almost the same and I just bought the 2020 model.
So far I love and just started Rideing again.
Cool channel thank's for the video
Hello DMC, I am very glad you found the channel! Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
If your ever by orange county N.Y.
Let's get together and ride
Thank you for making this video and your review. I enjoyed it!
Hello Uthe54, thank you for stopping by and I am glad you enjoyed the video! - Frank
a couple things about the chain. 1) New chains break in...even "pre-stretched" chains. Having to adjust it mid trip is not out of the norm. 2) I wonder if you accidentally set the chain too tight to begin with. Doing so greatly increases chain sprocket wear and can even lead to chain, bearing, or output shaft failure.
Hello, This was the factory chain with almost 6K on it. Its very possible I had it a little too tight after the first tightening. The manual states you need to have the rear wheel on a wheel stand and then measure 5-7mm from the swing arm. This does lead to a "loose" looking chain, compared to my other bikes. And as I only have a trail stand when on trips, I cannot be truly sure its 100% within that 5.7mm window.
Excellent point about the chain stretch. I put a new DID chain on, with a new 47T rear, and new standard front sprocket last night and then rode 75 miles. Sure enough at the end of the ride, I am out of the 5-7mm spec, and will adjust before the next ride.
@@OneOldManRiding yeah these ktms have a rather finicky chain tension. My 1090 has a very thick chain guide which makes it very difficult to get a proper measurement. A good tip is to remove the bottom shock bolt, then cycle the rear through its travel. Tightest point should be when outputshaft, swingarm pivot, and rear axle are all In a straight line. You will be able to tell instantly if your settings are too tight or not. Then, when you put the bike back on the ground you can take thay measurement and be 100% sure it's correct for next time.
Just an update for ya. New chain and sprockets went on this week, and I took the bike on a 460 mile Motocamping trip, chain was still in spec when I returned. Very pleased!
@Paul B Hello Paul, It seems KTM India does not use a quality chain. The number of users under 8-8K miles who report needing a new chain on the 390 FB groups is alarming. IMHO, if you buy a 390 bike, buy a chain as well! -Frank
I really like the footage that you used in this video. I was very interested in the 390 Adventure, but when it came time to pull the plug, I bought a Himalayan. I sold my Africa Twin to buy this. I'd be curious to see how you loaded your bike, as this was one of my concerns about the KTM. I seldom camp any more. I'm 67 years old, and I've done enough camping. I like hotels and motels.
Hello Gerald, I enjoy the 390, but the Himalayan does the exact same job, and probably has more torque for heavier loads. I do need to do a packing video. Nothing wrong with a nice hotel room! I am going south later this year for some riding, and while I will camp when on the ride, I will be staying in hotels on the way up and back! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding The himalayan 411 has more torque than a KTM 390 adventure?
Well done, good to know that ithandles the long trips
Hello ROTW, IMHO it's a lot better than the stats (Single cylinder, only 43HP) would suggest. Just truly NEEDS an aftermarket seat! Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
I did a 1000 km ride on a 150 cc MT motorcycle of Yamaha and it handled it perfectly..it included 100 km full of road...
Thats an incredible distance for so few cc! We are spoiled here in the USA by bigger bikes. - Frank
Super bike I just completed the Continual Divide Trail on mine and then took a long route back home to TX from Canada covering 7000 miles on this trip and the bike performed flawlessly. But yes the seat sucks I have an airhawk seat pad.
Hello Lane, I am very glad to hear about your 7K mile trip. I am leaving on the 15th for a 5K mile trip and had not really heard of anyone making a long journey on the bike. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding no 5k miles but I did 1400 california to salt lake and back
@@tylerclayburn8688 Hello Tyler, that must have been a beautiful ride. I did an 1100 mile trip through Pennsylvania last week. It's a great time of year for longer trips! - Frank
The stock seat does suck but you kinda get used to it after a day. Did 1450 miles in 4 days in it. The bike did it fine
Hello Jason, glad to hear that. This month I am riding 1800 miles to SD.
I’ve got both seats for mine and find the stock seat to be more comfortable. 🤷♂️
Hello Nobody, I can see that. The KTM Ergo is a more comfy (IMHO) version of the stock one. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Oh and by the way if you look under your seat KTM has put a great tool kit there for you to do things such as adjusting your chain. Not only is the tool kit sufficient but I did not take any additional tools or need them on my continental divide ride.
Hello Michael, I have never opened the tool kit! Doh! I religiously carry my tools now.
I recently did 1200+ miles in South Dakota. I checked my chain daily, and only had to adjust it once. So pretty pleased with the new chain and sprockets. They have almost 2500 miles on them now. - Frank
Thanks for the video and the tips are absolute necessary for a long trip drive. Anything you want to suggest for the maintenance of KTM 2020 model as I bought 2nd hand? Thankss~
Hello Jijosan, the main thing to keep an eye on is the chain and rear sprocket. I feel both are no great quality. And do change the oil every 4.5K, it gets BLACK. Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
Thanks for the video. I also fell for all the hype about this bike. I only have 500 miles on mine and I am thinking really seriously about just getting out now so I don't take to big of a $ hit. My other bike is a WR250R and I got the 390 thinking it would be a better bike for the freeway sections. It is definitely better than the WR on freeway but my feeling is the bike is unreliable junk. I think a large number of KTM fan boys have never owned a Yamaha or Honda and don't realize what a quality bike is.
Once I get this out of the garage I will NEVER own another KTM. IMHO KTM is the Range Rover of motorcycles.
Hello John, Thanks for the input. I do enjoy the virtually maintenance experience I get from my Yamaha FZ1, and Honda CRF250L. That said, The 390 Adventure is a budget bike and I have been able to have a great deal of fun with it.
I don't know that you can call a 390cc bike that costs $8000 otd a budget bike?
@@billh4301 Hello Bill, OTD varies by area of course. It was 7.1K OTD in mine. (Upstate NY) The only bike I could have spent less on that would about the same would be the Royal Enfield Himalayan. And its power is considerably lower, so its on road would suffer. Comparably priced in my area would be a CB500X, which would be superior on road, but the weight and suspension would be lesser off-road. Sadly the days of inexpensive bikes is behind us.- Frank
@@OneOldManRiding good price! In CALIFORNIA 8k is it. I have 2013 Triumph 1200 explorer XC with 10k miles I paid 9300 for. Could not pay almost as much for 390.
@@billh4301 Hello Bill, I can certainly understand that! There has to be value, and part of that is certainly looking at what you can get for approx. the same cost. - Frank
That trip to Acadia was quite an accomplishment. It’s interesting that the bike motor is such good quality and paired to poor quality elsewhere. You are braver than me for sure on using it for long trips. Have you considered a change to either a CB500X or VStrom 650XT? Both are reported to be more durable. Nice video with useful information for anyone considering a KTM390 Adventure.
@John Currie Was that your bike in the video? I have no doubt the small bike is a fun ride as evidenced by other videos on this channel. Long high speed runs may push it to or past it’s limit. A chain failure could lead to a serious injury or fatality. I have no doubts that the video creator maintains his bikes well. Maybe it’s just this one bike with that issue, maybe not. Both the CB500X and VStrom 650 are notoriously reliable, although I’m sure there are some of those with an occasional issue too. Admittedly, both those bikes are more expensive and heavier. 🤣
Hello VTrack. The motor seems to be a rock. I think I would pass on the 500X, while I am a fan on Honda, It does not offer as many features as the VStrom 650. I really like the weight of my 390 Adventure, and am hoping the upcoming KTM 490 will still be a relatively lite bike.
53° is awesome riding weather and camping weather, don’t know where you’re coming from on that one.
Hello E4, I agree, at least most of the times that's a good temp. I am a wimp when to comes to cold AND rain though. Once I am getting rained in, anything below 65 irks me 😁 Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
Those factory chains are shot at 6k. It’s better to replace it day one if you know.
Hello Bike Life, I cannot agree more. When I get questions about buying a 390 Adventure, as in what to look out for, I recomend replacing the chain if buying new, and sprockets and chain if it is used.
I did find that my front sprocket was in very good shape, but the rear was toast along with the chain. - Frank
The problem with the westerners is you guys are spoilt with money and comfort. I have done 500 miles with my NS200, which is half of KTM 390 and now I am upgrading to 390 ADV.
You are complaining of 390 adv quality...just hold there. N200 is Indian manufactured 200cc, 24 bhp, 19 NM torque, no ABS, no slip assist clutch, no, quick shifter, sporty seating position, no adjustable suspension, about 230 kms range tank, crusing speed 60 MPH and everything much lesser than KTM 390 ADV.
It's all about the rider skills.
That said, I appreciate that you guys still love 390 ADV.
Love your channel ❤️
Hello Santosh, you are not wrong sir. As they say "first works problems" I have been to South America where folks are doing everything on 125 cc bikes. We are very fortunate to ve able to complain! I love my 390 and hope you love your new bike! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding Thanks Frank replying ❤️
Hello. May I ask how tall are you? I am 6'3" (not overweight) and considering 390 ADV SW edition. Do you think it will be small for me?
Hello Hasan, I am 5'10". I believe you would get buffeting at your height. I know a 6'4" guy who rides on, so size is not the issue overall. - Frank
Good candid review, thanks. What other reliability issues have you had with this bike? This my number one obstacle to replacing a Japanese bike with this.
Hello Lou, at this point in time (About a year, bike has almost 8K miles), the chain and rear sprocket are the only parts I have had an issue with. - Frank
Hey man question for you. How would you compare the 390 vs the klr that you had on comfort and vibration at speeds from 55 to 70. Also do you think your happy with the ktm overall compared to the klr that you had? I have watched several 390 adventure videos lately and of course adv Matt's channel also.
Hello Marshall, I owned a 2006 KLR650 a few years ago. The 390 vibration is less than the older ones. I feel its slightly less than your Gen3, due to your rubber mounted footpegs and bars. If you removed those, I expect the engine, which is mostly unchanged, would vibrate much more than the 390. That said, I rode my KLR650 and loved it, the vibration IMHO is overblown for single cylinder engines. Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding o ok thank you man. I haven't removed any of the rubber mounted parts on my gene 3 but I did put a Kawasaki low seat on mine. I wonder if the seat is making worse because of it having less padding? And none of my local dealerships have a demo 390 adventure available and there isnt any for on rider share or twisted road either. How do you like your 390 compared to to your 06 klr?
@@marshall3498 Hello Marshall, I prefer the 390. I did not have the fairing your version has, that's a big factor. Overall, I like having the ABS and traction control, both lean sensitive, as well as the lower weight. From picking it up, to just moving it around when on an incline... being 70# lighter is a great. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding so in your opinion if I traded my klr in a ktm 390 adventure do you think I would be happy with ktm instead? I have really been watching alot of ktm 390 adventure reviews lately after watching big rock moto review of the ktm 390 adventure he just uploaded it on Monday lol.
Sounds like you camp off of your adventure just like I camp off my 390 Duke, another old man, same distances and loading. Am always checking the chain and have had it loosen on me a few times but not excessively and just have to ask that your adjusting your chain tension when the rear wheel is suspended off the ground?
Also, coming from a KLR650 to my Duke 390 and making the switch based on asking myself the question of weather I spent the most time on pavement or dirt. The answer for me was by far pavement and doing the switch made the enjoyment of my ride advance by a quantum leap.
Hello Raven. Glad to hear from a moto camper! I imagine your bike is the same as mine, correct me if I am wrong, but KTM wants the slack set with the bike on a stand. Not really an option most of the time! So I set my slack properly on the stand, then put the bike on my emergency stand and the kickstand. Measured and marked a paint stick and I use that to check the chain. The mm is not identical, but it should be accurate enough. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I just have a regular street 390 Duke, but have the best fun moto camping like you!! Sounds like you have the adjustment process down, I can't figure out why that would be occurring to you. Dave
Hello Raven, do you miss the KLR650? I had a Gen 1 and I do still miss riding it. - Frank
@@hank4787 Hello Raven, I forgot to mention, the replacement chain has not been a problem. It may have been my initial tensioning was loose, and I damaged the sprocket... or it was just a bad chain. Either way, new chain is treating me well. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding You know I don't miss any aspect of my old KLR650 and unlike yours mine was a 2013 year. My thing is back country twisty roads and it's where this Duke 390 comes alive. Used to have to coax the KLR through the turns but the Duke sets them up almost automatically. Ideal speed range sweet spot seems to be between 25 and 40 MPH. I haul the Duke around on the back of my 17' trailer and try and satisfy my twisted addiction where ever I go, my wife just shakes her head. it's amazing how many beautiful seldom traveled roads there are in America. What's your comparison of your old KLR and your Duke?
I put a chain oiler on my bike from new and after watching the ADV Matt video decided to change my chain at about 3500 miles. It hadn't stretched that much and I wonder if the chain oiler helped? Anyway did a 400 mile journey after fitting the chain and only it only needed a slight adjustment afterwards which is expected with a new chain anyway. I think a good quality chain is essential on any chain driven bike being an engineer I deal with a lot of chain driven machinery. The spanner for undiong the back wheel in the KTM tool kit is made of 'cheese' and I intend to carry a decent spanner when I go on my next continental tour.
Hello Mooky, I imagine the oiler is going to extend the life. I had a chain oiler on my VSTrom when traveling 5000 miles from Oregon to New York. It was great never having to maintain the chain, and I never had to adjust it either. - Frank
I am 58 years old. I didnot find any discomfort for 600 km ride at a stretch.
Hello JD, I gave made quite a few adjustments and ha e gone on much longer trips now. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
OMR - I missed what seat you are using, could you please link it? Thank you!
Hello JC. I am using the Powerparts bench seat - Frank
www.ktmperformance.com/seat-en-41.html
@@OneOldManRiding Thank you so much!
Happy to assist. It really changed the bike for me.
I thought I was subscribed to you but apparently not! Fixed that. Kinda disappointed to hear another negative report on build quality. The engine and tech on the 390 seems way ahead of similar sized (and priced) competitors’ offerings, but reliability is still king when you are adventuring.
Hello RT! Thank you for subscribing, I appreciate it. I agree, reliability is important for a bike you plan to be traveling on.
Lock tight..
Chains, how to lube..
Best axle grease you can get.
Mix with gasoline, put chain into gas grease mix. Soak for 5-10 minutes.
Let dry.
Job done, chain has been greased.
Save the mix for next time.
Old school but that is how it is done.
O-ring BS. The gas wont hurt o-rings.
So what. Your getting grease inside and you know it.
Have you ever opened a new sealed bearing? The grease you find is crap and very little of it. I repack all my sealed bearings with mobil 1 grease. Thy just work after that.
Hello Tom, I replaced the chain, the new one is at 9K and doing well. I use gear oil on it. - Frank
What part of Upstate NY are you? New KTM 390 Adventure owner from Rome, NY here.
Hello Matty, I am in Rensselaer County, just outside of Albany.
How do you like your 390 Adventure? - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding So far soo good! Ive put just under 1000 miles on it so far with no issues outside of the commonly known ones. Ive been building it up with panniers and a back rack to do some camping trips. Ill be following you for some ideas!
@@mattycampos4412 Hello Matty, glad to hear you will be getting some camping in. Its a great bike for camping. Enough power, and relatively low weight for getting up into the woods. I have helped two Africa Twin owners lift their bikes in the woods camping this year! - Frank
What exactly is poor quality on the bike? Considering trading from my 14 1190...
Hello Jonas, Primarily the quality of the metal. Parts bend more easily than you would expect, several of the threads on my bike were crossthreaded from the factory, and bolts seem to be of poor quality. The bike is great and its holding up well overall, however, if you are coming from Japanese, or European made KTMs, there is a difference in quality that is noticeable. For the money though, I do not think you can do better. - Frank
How do you find long distance ride with KTM 390 Adv?
Hello Wijaya, overall I am very impressed. It's just heavy enough to handle high winds on the highway, and with the Powerparts seat, pretty capable. It does vibrate enough that I would say 400 miles is the max for a comfortable ride. It started to get to me after that. - Frank
sounds like the stock chain is ultra cheap?
Hello Cirian, it certainly seems so. I spend some time in the 390 Adventure FB Group, and replacing the chain at 7-8K is a common commonly. Which is certainly too soon to be replacing a well made chain! Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding yeah, I'm looking at the Duke 390 or Adventure 390 as my 1st bike, the chain issue will be the same on both as 80% the same bike.
@@cirian75 Hello Cirian, indeed it will. You cannot go wrong with either. The engine is rock solid! And they are fun bikes (IMHO) to ride!- Frank
What is the type of the windshield?
Hello Mike, this is the Givi 7710D. It requires a mount (D7711KIT.) Thats a good thing, as it's what keeps it from vibrating like many of the screens that just use the two factory bolts. - Frank
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@@OneOldManRiding Thanks a lot for the response!
@@Mikpap Happy to help when I can Mikpap! - Frank
All budget bikes in india comes in low quality chain it lasts 7 to 8 k
Hello Ramesh, I have read of some folks running past 10K on the 390 Adventure Facebook group. But they seem to be the exception! Fortunately chains are not expensive. Thank you for stopping by! - Frank
My rear sprocket has play with 2K mileage 🤦🏻♂️
Hello Roland, do you mean movement? As in you can shift it around a bit? The bike has a cush drive, that could be the normal play from that. Essentially the sprocket has rubber spacers being it. It allows it to move. - Frank
Nice video. What’s the exact seat you recommend??
Hello! I am using the KTM Powerparts seat. I have 5K miles on it and I am quite satisfied with it. It does add over an inch to the seat height though, just something to be aware of.
www.ktmperformance.com/seat-en-41.html
@@OneOldManRiding Nice, thank you for the link! Yeah I got the 390 back in May and definitely notice the seat being pretty stiff and rough like you mentioned. I get the balls of my feet down but I’d sacrifice an inch for some extra comfort I believe bc I’d like to take it on longer trips eventually. Thanks for the quick reply :)
@@crayb89 Hello Cray, In my ADV boots I am just on the balls of my feet with the Powerparts seat, If I am in my street boots I am on my ties. But its worth it to have a comfortable seat!
Worst build quality I have encountered of any motorcycle I have owned. Nine months of ownership I've just sold it and felt no regret at seeing it go. KTM Philippines big fail, you just lost a prospective 1290R owner.
Hello Cliff, the bike is made of questionable metals to be sure. I have friends with the 1090, and the build quality is impressive. I imagine the truly expensive ones all do. Its more work to own a 390, but I did get to keep a lot of my $$$$ the other KTM bike would have needed! - Frank
I really lose faith with Americans. This bike is a giant bike in most of the world just because Americans think anything under 1000cc is a toy. I have ridden two hundred miles on mine between fuel stops on the original seat never had any problems. Never had anything fall of the bike, probably because I actually check the bike properly before I do any distance like I would with any bike. I will agree the chain isn't the best but the first thing I fitted as I do with all chain driven bikes is fit a chain oiler. 900mile is not really that far I normally do three or four thousand miles on a tour each summer in Europe and never had any real problems. I have done similar trips each year on a series of much larger bikes of European and Japanese make and it works just as well. Much cheaper to run, much lighter and can easily top the legal speed limits if necessary. Got all the luggage on it that I used to have on my bigger bikes and is much better on fire roads and other light off road tracks.
Hello Mark, obviously I can onky speak from my personal experience, and you yours. My favorite bike is my 250cc, which as an American I realize is 125cc more than most motorcycles in Central and South America, and most European countries I have been to.
I have no experience with a chain oiler, as all of my previous bikes ha e been Japanese manufacturers, cleaning and oiling has never been an issue and the chains last 32K kilometers before needing to be replaced.
Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comment. - Frank
if he never changed seat very bad ,
This was using the Powerparts bench seat. I could tolerate the stock seat for about 90 minutes 😁 - Frank