How I Escaped From a Survivalist Family
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2018
- Tara Westover’s father didn’t trust the government - in fact, he thought they had been infiltrated by the Illuminati. A survivalist, he believed the end of the world was imminent. Legally speaking, she didn’t exist until she was nine years old. And she didn’t step foot in a classroom until she was 17 - but by 27, she had a PhD from Cambridge.
Now 31, she has written a memoir called Educated about her life as a survivalist’s daughter, and how her path to education, from a religious college in Idaho, to Harvard and eventually Cambridge, led to a split between her and her family.
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You can really tell the difference in this comment section between who has read the book and who hasn't...
Dulce Rubio took the words right out of my mouth.
I chose this book for my English 12 class, my students were mesmerized! Thank you for sharing your story!
I have so much respect for her. She never BLAMES. She's a true hero of the mind.
FrancisBowieBeans indeed i think she is very sane, she's got her head on straight, and quite lovely as well.
Brilliant girl! Her parents and brother should be in jail for neglect and abuse.
What a fascinating story. This young woman is a testament to the strength of human character. I hope that her story is shared around the world.
+Brian , i agree, a very touching story indeed.
Brian Garrow yha my bullshit detector is going off.
+Patrick Levens , your rudeness/abusive language is unnecessary and misplaced. Maybe watch the video again?
Indeed. Great foil for the poor work that Cathy Newman did on her interview with Jordan Peterson.
David Robot no it's placed exactly where I want it. And her story is bullshit
My experience in no way compares in severity to Ms Westover’s. I went to a doctor/hospital when injury/illness was severe. I went to public school because home school was unheard of at that time, and my parents did not want to be jailed. However, I easily believe her story.
My father was not nearly so much a survivalist, as a paranoid, isolationist, victim of PTSD, with anger management issues that probably predated his military service. My father’s issues had little, if anything to do with religion, he was not a scripture reader, or regular attendee at religious services.
Outsiders knew something was wrong. A few tried to help, but were shut down by my Dad. One offered to get my mother and us out, but Mama, ever the enabler, acted as if she did not know what that person was talking about.
Her book was amazing . I hope she doesn't go back to twisted family
This book was hard to read and hard to put down. Ultimately an inspiring story that's also a great example of how you can only change yourself and accept other people as they are instead of wasting time trying to change people who'd rather remain ignorant and scared/ angry. You can miss someone every day and still be glad they are no longer in your life. Expand your horizons. Set some fucking boundaries.
What an amazing and brilliant individual. Her story gives me hope. If anyone watching this has not read her book, ”Educated,” do your self a favor and read it twice.
i'm a third of the way through the book,it is quite fantastic ,every person who looks after children should read it,to understand how a child becomes so emersed in their families view of theselves and the world,I really haven't got the words to express how wonderfully she reveals the workings of her mind.Above all it's a good read, some bits are hard to read, BUT here she is surving well,so you don't have to worry about her.
Tara Roberts No one was worried about her sweety. The book you are reading is fiction as is the story you just heard.
WAKE UP.
The speech that got Kennedy killed
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Err, yes, well, threads like this do attract people of similar mindset to this young woman's family, who have been thoroughly persuaded by various charismatic 'visionaries', 'channellers', Biblical interpreters, political extremists and other assorted narrative creators, that they live in the middle of (take your pick of various versions of) an enormous Satanic government /Illuminati/ extraterrestrial lizard beings illusion/conspiracy, from which they seek to free themselves by the power of arsenals of guns and clarified butter (well, that seemed to be the gist one delightful YT video I watched, anyway..).
All great fun and it seems to keep them busy creating and buying vast amounts of products, so I guess someone's profiting... and we mere 'sheeple' can at least take comfort that if they're mostly buried deep in the wilds of Idaho or the like, they're less likely to be roaming around our cities with their assault weapons, looking for trouble/ lizard people/ government agents or on-the-whole law-abiding sheeple like us on whom to vent their anger... (My apologies to any perfectly peaceful, resourceful folk who simply prefer to eschew modern consumerism for an alternative, more natural way of life, if I appear to have lumped them in with the more dangerous and/or delusionary aficionados of such lifestyles.)
PaperCup am a CWI working for a construction firm as a QC. Do not own a single gun, and live in a major city. Guess what there are people incharge who wish to stay incharge, the government and the people in it are corrupt ( not all but most power corrupts). The US justice system is not about justice it's about money. Don't believe me try going in front of a judge with a public defender and see if your not in jail. So yes the government is satin.
Papercup
Such a generalized convoluted statement, are you really that naive?
Incredible! I remember the same process that I came to realize what my family has done to me. It pains me but it made me grow so much stronger
knowledge is wisdom!!!
Amazing book !! Fascinating story !! Thank you for sharing!!
she's a beautiful person inside and out. Her book was absolutely amazing and hard to put down.
Beautifully written book by an inspiring woman
Loved her book even though i was still almost finishing it. Truly an inspiration.
It seems to me that few commenting here have even read the book! Many of the questions posed are answered in this astonishing book.
I know seriously!! I wouldn't have thought to even look her up if I hadn't of been reading the book. I swear half of the people come on her to make troll comments. It's disgusting. Or the comment above you whose a family friend came on to say she's a horrible person while her family are saints. Probably a mix of both who come on here, while only a few of us who read the book.
Frightening how many people discount her life experiences. Education over ignorance.
She is simply beautiful!
her story is more common than it sounds like. Most of families in the Middle East go through the same troubles
I want to read her book, so much!
Pretty opens doors. Education opens doors. Her unique story opens doors. As the sapling is bent, so the tree grows. DNA, environment, and experience. Sums it up?
I wonder what kind of wife and mother she will make or what kind of person living alone Tara becomes. Adjustment is not an easy thing. Estrangement is a valuable theme that will help many people.
Wow amazing
I'm reading your book ot's just amazing
Living off grid and survivalism really appeals to me. I should probably move from London Zone 1 then.
Baby steps, maybe? I'm sure there must be places within reach you could go to learn some of the skills and try out elements of the lifestyle, just for the weekend... :-)
yea bro i would love to live where the government is away from me, just how it was during the early 13 colonies before the revolution, most people self governed.
Does BYU accept the ACT instead of the SAT's? She never takes the SAT's does she? That was the only part of the book that kind of confused me.
That's what I'm saying... They would normally pull a degree for lying on their application
@@kennethmoore461 I think she says in the book she does get a GED. I just don't recall her mentioning the SAT and I'd never heard of the ACT before but I've been out of college for 10 years so I guess colleges accept it instead of SAT's.
@@laighttribecca6403 ACT is a standardized test much like SAT. You see ACT more West of the Mississippi.
thats crazy fam
id say go back if you look at the government now.
Where's Cathy Newman ???? Make a story on her gone missing after the Dr JP interview.......
Yeah, I think a couple of threads have got mixed up here.
Cathy Newman is a very poor interviewer: She continuously asked leading questions that distorted the interviewee’s views, she can’t think quickly enough on the spot, and she moves from one topic to another in an abrupt fashion which makes it difficult to follow. Cathy Newman is a failure on her job, and Channel 4 News can do much better than her.
funny enough that's exactly what the news want so she's perfect for the job
Traiu o movimento
_"Don't trust your parents or your family. Only trust the media and the government."_
-- Channel 4
Michael Black "Don't trust your parents or your family. Only trust the media and the government."
That must be the most insane quote I have ever read. Media and government are the most powerful propaganda machines Satan has ever devised. This young woman's family was suffering from extreme mental illness, and she herself seems not able to understand this. The fact that 22 people at this moment have clicked like to this quote only points out how much mental illness rules in modern America. So sad the Darkness that obviously exists in many families in modern America.
Kurt Homan this young woman as in miss. Westover..? She acknowledges that her father specifically may suffer from a mental illness in her book somewhere in the first 5 chapters, and that SHE DIDN’T KNOW THAT MENTAL ILLNESS EVEN EXISTED UNTIL SHE GOT TO COLLEGE. Read her book. It’s a great book. Read her book.
I have to ask - why does she say her A's like O's. What accent is this? I listened to her on the radio and it began to really irk me - Hond, ond, exom- and listening to her on the radio they kept mentioning different siblings and immediately I was thinking I bet this girl is coming from some kind of weird Mormon family and it doesn't sound like I was too far off.
So?
Her accent is unusual. I think it's a mix of ''Mormon Idaho'' and ''Cambridge Snob''. It almost sounds fake but, as an armchair psycho-analyzer, I would bet she grew into it as a way to symbolically reject that culture so unkind to her as a child.
I think it might be a bit of vocal fry.
Kris McCauley i think because this interview is taking place in the UK and she is immersed in their dialect, if you hang around long enough you begin to take on their accents
I'm wondering if Channel 4 even made an effort to request an interview with this woman's Family together their side of the story. Probably not.
2:52 "I thought Europe was a County" She's just a regular USA citizen who loves to get *On Camara* lol. She could _nearly_ get to White House thinking Europe's just a country!! Lol
All need needs now is to suddenly believe she is American Indian like Elizabeth Warren, or a double naught spy like Jethro Bodine, and she's ready to be elected to high political office like so many other nuts in modern government.
Read her book. Read her book. READ HER BOOK!
And the trolls emerge.
To each his own. But what's the point of this?
There's nothing wrong w/prepping or having survival skills. One day you might just need it.
The gist of the book (and the title does provide a rather large clue) seems to be about this young woman's efforts to acquire a conventional education, which her particular 'prepper' family apparently didn't allow. I didn't hear anything that was anti- having survival skills. Did you?
Although it could well be accused of existing mainly to feed the 'machine' of modern life, with which one might have a major disconnect, there's still much to be said for a conventional, higher level education, especially if you're lucky enough to have really great teachers. Apart from the tremendous amount of knowledge and analytical, etc, skills gained, it's helpful to really understand from the inside, how they think, and to be able to 'speak their language', if you really want to change this world for the better. As with survival skills, you never know when such an education might come in handy, depending on what sort of things you would like to do with your life. I think children should be given that choice.
Her father went to extremes. He spent the majority of their savings on survival gear At times. One Christmas, they spent skinning and canning thousands of peaches. It was never enough. “The end” was always coming on a day he prophesied from reading the Bible and he really believed it, but it never has. It’s not preparing its delusion.
Mblaze Kay: Agreed! It was delusional. I just finished the book and the Christmas they basically skipped due to canning peaches was in 1999. He proclaimed that the world was going to end on January 1, 2000 as soon as the clock hit mid night. He became depressed when it really didn't end. More likely because he appeared delusional to everyone in town. He was going around telling people in town that they had better stock up because the world was going to end. But no one took him seriously, except his family and that's because he'd brain washed them. Out here in the western states we had all heard that the world was going to end on January 1, 2000 because the computers weren't programmed to go from 1999 to 2000. Of course if you think about it the world wouldn't have ended, the computers would have crashed is all if it had happened. But it really did not happen, the computers just switched to 2000 at mid night on January 1, 2000. He was ridiculously extreme about it while the rest of us just wondered if the computers would really crash. We weren't terribly surprised when they didn't crash.
You seem like a sweet kid, this is because of your family. You will understand this one day. Sorry for your brother. Peace
Many children turn out fine in spite of coming from dysfunctional families, though many do not. Children are not blank slates to be shaped by their parents, and parents can not take all the credit or blame for how a child turns out. Hopefully her brother decides to fix his problems on day.
You two realize that this is fake right?
You realise it may also be just as it appears, right? No, I thought not. Such is the the power of the stories we (humans) tell ourselves.. and it's not just the government et al telling tales, you know, James.
Her brother murdered a dog with a knife in a fit of rage and her family still refuses to accept that he has an anger problem
Wait!!!! My bullshit detector is going off.......
Bob smith and how do you know..oh I get it you feel that it's true, but a person just doesn't walk up to Cambridge and without a transcript from some recognized educational institution and get in. IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.
Her facial expressions are indicative of lying and attention seeking, but it can be inaccurate.
Zayd Depaor short and long of it is her story is way less then plausible
Patrick Levens - FYI, If you read the introductory segment, it clarifies that she worked her way up to Cambridge via a local religious college and then Harvard, which I think would count as a recognised educational institution. So, you're right, that scenario you imagined, that maybe her (edited) spoken narrative suggested, didn't happen.
What exactly do you feel is implausible about her story? I'm curious.
how does someone raised in isolated idaho sound like a valley girl?
It's an interesting accent, isn't it? There's a discussion elsewhere on this thread about it - someone I think said it was a (possibly unique) mix of Idaho Mormon and educated/upper class British/Cambridge University. Lots of that growly vocal thing too, whose name I can never remember, that seems to be associated with parts of California and 'Valley Girls' - but I've also heard it in New York; not sure if the speaker was a native though.
They call it "vocal fry".
She sounds like an educated Midwesterner.
Correct ,only go to hospital if you are diverse from society if you want to come out mostly a machine, numbers are reduced without any other reason, own idea is a threat.
Her dad survived the fire, but he can't use one of his hands now. Obviously because he didn't do physical therapy to gain mobility in that hand. I read a story about a lady who was in a small air plain crash 10 years ago. It was as serious as his burns, but she can walk and function fine because she did physical therapy.
I don't understand how you were able to go to college without at least a GED... If you lied on your application to BYU how did you get in???
In her book, she says that BYU accepted homeschooled students, so she put that she was homeschooled on her application (even though there wasn't any direct teaching of traditional school subjects in her home). She passed the ACT with a 28 (a very high score) which she earned by studying for on her own. Her brother tutored her for the more difficult math sections. With a high score on the ACT I guess the admissions office at BYU assumed she must have had a pretty rigorous homeschool education. She struggled at BYU in the beginning simply because she didn't know a lot of basics, but she persevered and ended up doing really well. She's obviously naturally brilliant. Two of her brothers also have P.H.D.s.
Read the damn book.
And she looks healthy, smart and capable and she is still alive, it's a miracle! Even though her father didn't believe the government. Bullshit, channel four propaganda piece on free thinkers. Thumbs down.
I actually agree with her dad 🤣🤣🤣 about the government
Sounds like your Dad had a positive impact. You may be able to credit your success on not being brought up in public schools.
No her success came from buying her own books and educating herself and then becoming educated in public universities.
Her dad was an abuser and a bully. He insisted his views on her, and did not allow her to critically think for herself. He was NOT a positive impact in any way.
As she said in her book, she ISNT the child her dad raised, but he did raise her. She built her own future. The ones with the PHD in the family have strained relationships with the ones that stayed, bc they choose her not accepting the abuse her brother gave.
This is the exact line her family's attorney is trying to push, and it's just an extension of the gaslighting she suffered at their hands. Whatever good things she learned from her home life are for her to decide, not her family and not any of us, and they do not override the fact that her brother abused her to the point of threatening to kill her and half of her family is knowingly complicit.
1:28 she says her Mother was a MIDWIFE which screams HEALTH CARE. So her father being so opposed makes it hard to believe. And she doesn't explain that part. Js I question people. That was a very important comment
She doesn´t need to explain anything. She also said that her father was against everything connected with government. But why comment like this? You can just read the book, it´s that easy.
If you had actually read her book you would know her mother was not formally trained or qualified as a midwife. She was a self-trained herbalist/natural medicine maker and began working as a midwife's assistant, eventually taking over when the midwife moved away and other women where they lived had no one else available to them. Hence her references to her mother "treating" the family's injuries or other health issues at home.
Your parents gave you a world class education. You made it, and you may disagree with many people including your family. Now you will have one more realization in a few years....why your family has insights others didn't and how much you benefited from the experience growing up. Next book. The return to my roots. After that, Thank you Mom and Dad.
We'll see about that, OBVIOUSLY they didn't give those kids an education. They kept them at home claiming it was home school, but just made them work in a junk yard. If you ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK you'd see that she was working in that junk yard by the age of 10. Obviously only got to college through her own determination to take the ACT and get the college. If it were up to the parents NONE of them would have gone to college. Her brother had to just walk out and leave to get to college, while the dad ranted about professors being horrible.
Read the book, you will have a VERY different opinion of the psychos who try to call themselves her parents. They tried to raise her in ignorance and darkness thanks to her father’s religious delusions, and she rose above that. Read the book. Read the book. Read. The. Book.
She mentioned that she taught her self basic math, grammar, etc. And yes, READ HER BOOK!
I actually don't believe this story completely. There is nothing colloquial about her, is that the term? Usually not being educated for that long and in a specific community, usually something is not so standard or conventional. I may be wrong, but my experience with uneducated adults who have taught themselves says there is something not completely true in this story.
Your Daddy was right !!!
I don't know who you are. I just don't trust you at all because I shouldn't and i dont
Bah! Propaganda. You can fool some of the people...
What a Prima Donna! I know her family and this is a bunch of millennial nonsense.