You’re very welcome. If you are binge watching some of my videos, I apologize for the unstable camera movement and audio clarity issues with some of my previous videos. Since then, I have made great improvements to ensuring the camera movements are as smooth as can be as well as the audio coming in clearly.
Amazing to see how well little damage your tropicals are showing despite your low temperatures. The wind is definitely a big factor in my winter damage this season
Thank you. Although the wind is a major factor, almost all of my exposed/unsheltered trees in my yard have been through numerous winters. I suspect these experiences gives them an edge over other trees that may encounter the cold every once in a while.
I use the Kellogg Palm, Cactus and Citrus potting for my container tropicals and it works well. It has peat, sand, pumice and some organic fertilizer in there.
That’s awesome. I’ve been avoiding the use of any wood products as a growing medium. One of the issues with the use of any wood products is their quick decomposition, in that they almost act like compost over a period of a few years. Sadly, almost all nurseries use wood products as the primary growing medium, resulting in the decline of the tree after several years as the wooden product breaks down.
Decomposition of organic material, also known as compost is perhaps one of the worst growing medium for any tree. As the compost continues to decompose/rot, it robs the oxygen from the roots. This process also generates unnecessary heat, in the winter time, it’s not a big deal, however, come summer, you’ll want the roots as cool as possible.
We're on track to have over a 1000 chilling hours here in the Sacramento area so in the future I may have my apple, peach star fruit, mango and avocado trees all producing fruit in the same backyard. So far it's been cold enough to meet stone fruit chilling requirements but not too cold it kills tropicals. Just hovers around 30-34 overnight.
That’s awesome. I know your region is typically a few degrees warmer in the winter than mine, but it’s great that we’re able to grow all sorts of trees, including ones that absolutely require a certain amount of chill hours next to heat loving tropical fruit trees.
Wonderful Video! Great tips and your fruit forest is looking great as usual. The frost and freezes really hit the hardest towards the end of the winter it's like the trees hadn't had enough already. It's like this is their boss fight and the others were just mini bosses. Fortunately if the trees made it through most of the winter their chances of survival are pretty good but not guaranteed. My fruit forest of containerized trees looks great and seems to build resistance as time passes and the quantity of trees sort of microclimate each other. I mainly lost some seedlings since the beginning of the winter but since then the rest of the plants are just a bit defoliated or burnt but they should make a comeback.
Do u change out the soil from containers after you purschase it from a nursery? I recently bought some trees from Mimosa, the soil doesnt look very sandy. Should i change it out after a few weeks with my sandy mix for my containers.? I only do container gardening .
I should, but I do not. I find the proper changing of the soil to be too tedious and time consuming. In my case, I chance it by simply amend the soil when upsizing the container tree purchased from nurseries. Some of my tropicals in their original nursery containers have died over time due to poor soil. I have yet to find a nursery that uses good soil. The best method to changing of soil would be to only change 1/3 of the soil, wait 2-3 months, change another 1/3, wait another 2-3 month before ultimately changing the past 1/3. This puts less stress on trees and allows them to acclimate to the new soil slowly.
Looks like we have similar houses with yours a little newer . My gas bill for a 2,200 sq ft. was $25 in December. January $309 . February $500 . There were articles on February prices dropping 68% . Mine went up . These prices are 20 times higher but therm unit only went up 4.5% ? Was your gas bill this high ? Our gas is for heating , laundry dryer and stove oven/burners. With your newer house it may be solar or electric ? Still im curious on your gas bill increases ?
Specific to my gas bill, it was “typical” for February, at $309.52, and the month prior at $92.33. This was because we practically had the centralized heater on 24/7 for January-February. Beyond that, my gas is typically $20 as its only used to cook and heat my water.
Great info as always. Do you get snow in your location? I'm in the same zone (9b) and we typically get one big snowfall, maybe two that last about a day or two (I'm in socal).
Thank you. We do not routinely get snow. Every once in a couple of decades, we do get a light snow, when the conditions are right. That said, we get a few hail which is more destructive than snow.
Those two types of trees are on the opposite end of the spectrum. Figs practically thrive on neglect, and therefore, are more forgiving. Fig trees prefer a more neutral pH, while guava wants more acidic soil.
My shed and laundry room are filled to capacity with seedlings 😅 I’m waiting on my green house panels and it’s supposed to actually be fall this week supposedly haha
That’s awesome. It’s going to be great once you get your greenhouse structure setup. Although not as warm as the interiors of our homes, I find the tropicals, including seedlings do so much better outside, in a heated greenhouse where there is plenty of humidity.
@@TropicalCentralValley the humidity factor will be a game changer for me here since it’s so dry most of the time. Other than that we have pretty good growing conditions.
It really depends on the age and state of your tropical. For instance, if container growing a seedling sized tree, I would go with something like a 60% peat moss, 30% sand and 10% perlite. If the tree is more mature, you can get away with 40% peat moss, 40% sand and 20% perlite. Bear in mind too, some trees like higher concentrations of water such as jaboticoba and guavas while others prefer a drier period in between watering, such as citrus. For this, you can adjust your ratios accordingly.
Would you be able to show how u made your green house? I do have some fruit trees that are cold sensitive and I grow them in containers too but need something to protect them during cold temps
Although I do not have a video that covers the construction process, I made a video which goes into details surrounding the use of the greenhouse: ruclips.net/video/ZsA0VQk5mr8/видео.html Concerning the actual construction process, it’s simply metal 10 - 12 feet long pipe/tubings connected with angle joints for the frame. The box frame is then wrapped in a thick painter’s clear plastic.
Thank you for the response, will check the link and do u keep that setup forever or do u remove it every year? Ours is a very small backyard and I don’t have that much space to keep that setup. Although I just move the plants to covered patio but I need something to cover like a small greenhouse to keep them warm during freezing temp. I might have lost my sapodilla plant this winter, last winter I protected it well.
How do you make sure trees in the ground don't have wet feet? I mean how deep can you possibly dig and replace the soil until a tree reaches the original clay? Or is the rainfall there so little that it doesn't get far down?
For my in-ground trees, I perform heavy amendments to the soil when initially planting it in the ground. Many of my holes are about 1.5 times the depth of the container tree that I am putting in the ground. For instance, if the container is 1 foot tall, my hole will be 1.5 feet deep. It’s not the depth that you want, it’s the width of the hole as you want the roots to spread wide. Not sure if you’ve seen my DO NOT DEEP WATER video, but the feeder roots of most tropical fruit trees do not go deep. The whole idea is to provide the new tree with a solid foundation and encourage it’s roots to spread far and wide, into the native clay soil.
Hi in August I started 20 red lady papaya seedlings . They grew 6" and then slowly died off in fall/winter. Its been a cold winter here in 10b Cerritos. I have only 2 left . I tried bringing them indoors but not much success. I will have to try them again when it warms up. It was 39°F last night
That’s a bummer. I’d try again in April/May. The trick with papaya is to fatten them up as fast as possible (lots of fertilizer as they are heavy feeders). This technique has served me well.
Practically any sand will do, but see if you can get the beach style sand which contains rounded particles. You can find them in your local home improvement store (Lowe’s, Home Depot, etc) typically in the garden/nursery section. They’re typically labeled “play sand”.
In visalia- My bananas look completely dead. Im hoping they bounce back cause i went to LA to get a blue java 😭. I think for one of them, i didnt amend the soil as deeply as i should have. The meaves have brown splotches qhich im assuming is root rot...
That’s a bummer. From the description of it, it sounds just like my Cavendish banana that was shown in the video. If so, mine has always bounced back. I’d leave your banana alone u til the threat of frost is gone, then start cutting back the dead parts. Banana plants are surprisingly hardy and will likely bounce back from the roots.
Yes, I do have a Malay Apple tree in the ground, enclosed in a heated greenhouse. I believe this was the last video which showed the Malay Apple: ruclips.net/video/77UclhvBZZA/видео.html
I’m not sure about your region, but I would imagine you should have no issues obtaining one as you are virtually in an all tropical climate. In my case, there are a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in Los Angeles which carries them.
Totally agree. Just about anything that holds soils works, though I’ve not experimented with grow bags as they seem like they would hold the weight of trees.
That’s a bummer. I’m surprised it suffered that much damage. Luckily, all of my mango trees, including the in-ground seedlings (1-2 years old) are taking it like champs.
@@TropicalCentralValley I normally only get down to 32 for an hour or 2 but not much colder. This year is a cold one. The giant mango tree in downtown Marysville somehow always seems to get very little damage even when mine are damaged badly. It’s all about that special location with mangoes 🥭
Excellent lesson on the soil. I couldn't agree more.
Thank you.
Excellent. Thank you!
You’re very welcome. If you are binge watching some of my videos, I apologize for the unstable camera movement and audio clarity issues with some of my previous videos.
Since then, I have made great improvements to ensuring the camera movements are as smooth as can be as well as the audio coming in clearly.
@@TropicalCentralValley It is the excellent content that I watch your videos for.
Thank you.
Amazing to see how well little damage your tropicals are showing despite your low temperatures. The wind is definitely a big factor in my winter damage this season
Thank you.
Although the wind is a major factor, almost all of my exposed/unsheltered trees in my yard have been through numerous winters. I suspect these experiences gives them an edge over other trees that may encounter the cold every once in a while.
Great video!
Thank you .
Thank you. Apologies on the video being a bit lengthy; there’s just so much consideration when growing tropical fruit trees in containers.
I use the Kellogg Palm, Cactus and Citrus potting for my container tropicals and it works well. It has peat, sand, pumice and some organic fertilizer in there.
That’s awesome. I’ve been avoiding the use of any wood products as a growing medium.
One of the issues with the use of any wood products is their quick decomposition, in that they almost act like compost over a period of a few years.
Sadly, almost all nurseries use wood products as the primary growing medium, resulting in the decline of the tree after several years as the wooden product breaks down.
@@TropicalCentralValley Why is decomposition of the wood bad?
Decomposition of organic material, also known as compost is perhaps one of the worst growing medium for any tree.
As the compost continues to decompose/rot, it robs the oxygen from the roots. This process also generates unnecessary heat, in the winter time, it’s not a big deal, however, come summer, you’ll want the roots as cool as possible.
I have sometime an lemon to grow in containers bro in the Caribbean small space
That’s awesome. Citrus do really well in containers.
We're on track to have over a 1000 chilling hours here in the Sacramento area so in the future I may have my apple, peach star fruit, mango and avocado trees all producing fruit in the same backyard. So far it's been cold enough to meet stone fruit chilling requirements but not too cold it kills tropicals. Just hovers around 30-34 overnight.
That’s awesome. I know your region is typically a few degrees warmer in the winter than mine, but it’s great that we’re able to grow all sorts of trees, including ones that absolutely require a certain amount of chill hours next to heat loving tropical fruit trees.
Very informative video. Thank you!
Thank you.
Wonderful Video! Great tips and your fruit forest is looking great as usual. The frost and freezes really hit the hardest towards the end of the winter it's like the trees hadn't had enough already. It's like this is their boss fight and the others were just mini bosses. Fortunately if the trees made it through most of the winter their chances of survival are pretty good but not guaranteed. My fruit forest of containerized trees looks great and seems to build resistance as time passes and the quantity of trees sort of microclimate each other. I mainly lost some seedlings since the beginning of the winter but since then the rest of the plants are just a bit defoliated or burnt but they should make a comeback.
Thank you.
That’s awesome to hear yours is doing very well.
I really like how you include the fahrenheit to celcius conversions. Another good video 👍
Thank you.
It’s to help out the rest of the world who uses the metric system. We’ll get there someday.
Do u change out the soil from containers after you purschase it from a nursery? I recently bought some trees from Mimosa, the soil doesnt look very sandy. Should i change it out after a few weeks with my sandy mix for my containers.? I only do container gardening .
I should, but I do not. I find the proper changing of the soil to be too tedious and time consuming. In my case, I chance it by simply amend the soil when upsizing the container tree purchased from nurseries. Some of my tropicals in their original nursery containers have died over time due to poor soil. I have yet to find a nursery that uses good soil.
The best method to changing of soil would be to only change 1/3 of the soil, wait 2-3 months, change another 1/3, wait another 2-3 month before ultimately changing the past 1/3. This puts less stress on trees and allows them to acclimate to the new soil slowly.
Thank God we in the Caribbean has sun an rain only
Luckily for us, we’re able to grow just about everything, from trees that require hundreds of chill hours to tropical fruit trees.
Looks like we have similar houses with yours a little newer . My gas bill for a 2,200 sq ft. was $25 in December. January $309 . February $500 . There were articles on February prices dropping 68% . Mine went up . These prices are 20 times higher but therm unit only went up 4.5% ? Was your gas bill this high ? Our gas is for heating , laundry dryer and stove oven/burners. With your newer house it may be solar or electric ? Still im curious on your gas bill increases ?
Specific to my gas bill, it was “typical” for February, at $309.52, and the month prior at $92.33. This was because we practically had the centralized heater on 24/7 for January-February.
Beyond that, my gas is typically $20 as its only used to cook and heat my water.
Great info as always. Do you get snow in your location? I'm in the same zone (9b) and we typically get one big snowfall, maybe two that last about a day or two (I'm in socal).
Thank you. We do not routinely get snow. Every once in a couple of decades, we do get a light snow, when the conditions are right. That said, we get a few hail which is more destructive than snow.
What potting mix would you use for fig trees and guava trees?
Those two types of trees are on the opposite end of the spectrum. Figs practically thrive on neglect, and therefore, are more forgiving. Fig trees prefer a more neutral pH, while guava wants more acidic soil.
My shed and laundry room are filled to capacity with seedlings 😅
I’m waiting on my green house panels and it’s supposed to actually be fall this week supposedly haha
That’s awesome. It’s going to be great once you get your greenhouse structure setup. Although not as warm as the interiors of our homes, I find the tropicals, including seedlings do so much better outside, in a heated greenhouse where there is plenty of humidity.
@@TropicalCentralValley the humidity factor will be a game changer for me here since it’s so dry most of the time. Other than that we have pretty good growing conditions.
That is very true.
Wat type of fungis fertilizer was that bag u were holding???
It’s an endomycorrhizae inoculate variety. Amazon has them. The link to the one I bought is in the video description.
So just sand perlite and peat moss got it. Wat is the ratio???
It really depends on the age and state of your tropical. For instance, if container growing a seedling sized tree, I would go with something like a 60% peat moss, 30% sand and 10% perlite.
If the tree is more mature, you can get away with 40% peat moss, 40% sand and 20% perlite.
Bear in mind too, some trees like higher concentrations of water such as jaboticoba and guavas while others prefer a drier period in between watering, such as citrus.
For this, you can adjust your ratios accordingly.
@Tropical Central Valley thank you so much I will continue to experiment and take tips thanks
You’re very welcome.
Would you be able to show how u made your green house? I do have some fruit trees that are cold sensitive and I grow them in containers too but need something to protect them during cold temps
Although I do not have a video that covers the construction process, I made a video which goes into details surrounding the use of the greenhouse: ruclips.net/video/ZsA0VQk5mr8/видео.html
Concerning the actual construction process, it’s simply metal 10 - 12 feet long pipe/tubings connected with angle joints for the frame. The box frame is then wrapped in a thick painter’s clear plastic.
Thank you for the response, will check the link and do u keep that setup forever or do u remove it every year? Ours is a very small backyard and I don’t have that much space to keep that setup. Although I just move the plants to covered patio but I need something to cover like a small greenhouse to keep them warm during freezing temp. I might have lost my sapodilla plant this winter, last winter I protected it well.
All of my greenhouses are temporary structures that get setup and torn down when needed.
How do you make sure trees in the ground don't have wet feet? I mean how deep can you possibly dig and replace the soil until a tree reaches the original clay? Or is the rainfall there so little that it doesn't get far down?
For my in-ground trees, I perform heavy amendments to the soil when initially planting it in the ground.
Many of my holes are about 1.5 times the depth of the container tree that I am putting in the ground. For instance, if the container is 1 foot tall, my hole will be 1.5 feet deep. It’s not the depth that you want, it’s the width of the hole as you want the roots to spread wide. Not sure if you’ve seen my DO NOT DEEP WATER video, but the feeder roots of most tropical fruit trees do not go deep.
The whole idea is to provide the new tree with a solid foundation and encourage it’s roots to spread far and wide, into the native clay soil.
Now growing my grafted lime avocados an lemin in half of barrels
That’s awesome. One of the many benefits of using the wooden barrels is that they’re breathable, great for the trees.
Hi in August I started 20 red lady papaya seedlings . They grew 6" and then slowly died off in fall/winter. Its been a cold winter here in 10b Cerritos. I have only 2 left . I tried bringing them indoors but not much success. I will have to try them again when it warms up. It was 39°F last night
That’s a bummer. I’d try again in April/May. The trick with papaya is to fatten them up as fast as possible (lots of fertilizer as they are heavy feeders). This technique has served me well.
What kind of sand do you use and where do you get it?
Practically any sand will do, but see if you can get the beach style sand which contains rounded particles.
You can find them in your local home improvement store (Lowe’s, Home Depot, etc) typically in the garden/nursery section. They’re typically labeled “play sand”.
Do you grow berries strawberries, blackberries, raspberries and blueberries in that climate?
I would love to, but lack the space. I do have a few blueberries in the ground, but prefer to grow trees as they’re evergreen.
In visalia- My bananas look completely dead. Im hoping they bounce back cause i went to LA to get a blue java 😭. I think for one of them, i didnt amend the soil as deeply as i should have. The meaves have brown splotches qhich im assuming is root rot...
That’s a bummer. From the description of it, it sounds just like my Cavendish banana that was shown in the video. If so, mine has always bounced back. I’d leave your banana alone u til the threat of frost is gone, then start cutting back the dead parts.
Banana plants are surprisingly hardy and will likely bounce back from the roots.
Do you grow malay apples?! It's a red fruit that produces pink flowers! If so could you please show me the tree?!
Yes, I do have a Malay Apple tree in the ground, enclosed in a heated greenhouse. I believe this was the last video which showed the Malay Apple: ruclips.net/video/77UclhvBZZA/видео.html
@@TropicalCentralValley omg I love that fruit can you update more videos about it
Absolutely, just as soon as the weather want up though.
@@TropicalCentralValley ah ok! One question, do you know where i can find a malay apple tree here in miami?!
I’m not sure about your region, but I would imagine you should have no issues obtaining one as you are virtually in an all tropical climate.
In my case, there are a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in Los Angeles which carries them.
One option for plant containers are half wine barrels!
Totally agree. Just about anything that holds soils works, though I’ve not experimented with grow bags as they seem like they would hold the weight of trees.
At 29 my big mango trees lots 3-5 feet of canopy. I will end up practically cutting back to main trunks and 2” caliber branches
That’s a bummer. I’m surprised it suffered that much damage. Luckily, all of my mango trees, including the in-ground seedlings (1-2 years old) are taking it like champs.
@@TropicalCentralValley I normally only get down to 32 for an hour or 2 but not much colder. This year is a cold one. The giant mango tree in downtown Marysville somehow always seems to get very little damage even when mine are damaged badly. It’s all about that special location with mangoes 🥭
Totally true about the location. In my case, it does help (even if just a little) that all of my mango trees have had prior frost/cold exposure