I increasingly use Lumenzia for luminosity masking. Just today I rescued an image from a few years ago by adding Orton effect but masking out the foreground element I wanted to keep sharp. My current process is to adjust exposure, white balance, color adjustments, and lens corrections in LR. Then Photoshop to dodge and burn via luminosity masks, sharpening if warranted, edge patrol and distraction removal; then Orton effect if desired. Then back to LR to crop and vignette. Until two months ago I only used PS for focus/exposure stacking and cleanup. Now I'm a blended processor. I just bought Topaz DeNoise, also. That will be my program for noise removal before I do anything else, if needed. I'm a former painter, so doing all this adjustment may sound like work to some but I find it fun.
I use PS for exactly the same things, plus special effects. I also used it for sky replacement but I now use Luminar 4 which usually does a better job in a fraction of the time and effort (Luminar's masking is impeccable). Nigel, there is nothing wrong with replacing a sky or otherwise manipulating a photo -- as long as you make it clear that the result is such, that it is a composite and not a single-shot photograph. I travel frequently with my sons' Scout troop and see many wonderful locations mid-day with horrible lighting. I still photograph them because I'll not have another chance. Some of these I manipulate with sky replacement and more to create beautiful art. Just recently, one of my best-ever works was a stunner I made from boring mid-day photo of a popular waterfall that I turned into a truly jaw-dropping image. I've disclosed to everyone what I've done and I've gotten no complaints, but only inquiries about the software and techniques I used. Honestly, I think I get more respect and compliments for my manipulations than I do for my photography.
I guess I'm one of the few who hadn't heard of the Orten effect. Would enjoy seeing more, especially any details about how you control the range of highlights selected for your mask. Very nice video. Thank you for doing it.
I really like your pragmatic approach, which seems to be driven more by the ends than the means. Which is to say that you use the tools your are comfortable with to get the results you want. Sure, there are plenty of other great tools available that can achieve similar results in different ways, but their selection is a technical (or sometimes financial) choice, not artistic. I haven’t found another tool that has a feature as powerful as content aware fill, but it’s just a matter of time before others copy it, although there is a LOT of engineering magic behind it.
Superb........ Interesting video as always Nigel. I use ACR and PS much more than Lr because I feel I have more fine control and can make more fine adjustment layers and I have options with blending methods/layer masks etc.
Nigel, you consistently produce videos that I find inspiring and informative. Thanks for all the hard work and thought you put into them. Yes please more on achieving the Orton Effect!
I believe NIK is underrated. I’ve been a user for 8-10 years. Most of my work is design and layout. I work a lot with stock photos and/or the occasional photo shoot. NIK plug-ins give me the extra boost I need and what I love about it is I can preview what I’m getting and save it to separate composited layer. Thanks for mentioning NIK in this video.
Nik Collection, at least in its old an free of charge version, integrates as well with Lightroom as it does with Photoshop. The only advantage of PS comes into play if you need layers to soften or blend the effect that Nik has created. As for the balance LR/PS, in my case it's even as high as about 99/1. But the reasons for taking the extra steps in PS are exactly those you've pointed out in your video, except for the Nik filters as I've mentioned.
I appreciate your honesty about only 5-10% going to Photoshop (of course, it can very effective there), but for me it's all Lightroom for all the rest, too. Big thanks!
I've watched bits and pieces on youtube for years but never bothered creating an account. Your vids are so good that I created one just to subscribe to watch tips and tricks/advice of yours! thanks and keep em coming
Good to know that you're using Photoshop for the same kind of things that I do. I just did a work through on your Orton effect process and it worked 😁 I've been finding these tutorials of yours very useful. Lots of videos doing similar things on RUclips but I prefer to see the Danson versions because I follow you anyway. Would also love see a closer look at Orton. Thanks for keeping me sane during lockdown.
That actually was a very good vlog Nigel. Not sure on 4 and 5 , but first 3 excellent viewing. Looking forward to seeing you out an about, hopefully soon. Thanks for sharing again Nigel.
I’ve been wanting to ask you for ages whether you use photoshop or not, and now I know! I would definitely be interested in a separate video on the Orton effect - looks like it might be good for waterfalls! Love your work as always Nigel.
I'm an avid viewer and working my way through your Masterclass. I find Lightroom pretty intuitive and with reading and watching guides (you at the top of the list) my knowledge of LR is growing - and I see improvements in my photos. But PS, I find it really hard work, not something that is easily self taught. You make it look easy, but when I open PS its like being lost in a wash of icon trays and widgets! I know that I am running out of time because I will need to use it eventually for focus stacking and the content aware feature does look cool compared to LR's rather lumpy effort. Great video. Would be interesting to know if you would consider a PS focused course?
Just found your series of videos. I find them helpful and easy to follow. Trying out your techniques to help improve mine. Interesting LR vs PS video too. Cheers
Fascinating to see your approach to creating the Orton Effect. Never seen that method before. Seems to create a more natural result. Would love to see a separate video on this as you suggest.
For your focus stacking I'm sure you can edit the mask layer to remove those areas that photoshop has mistaken for foreground/background. Selecting the mask within the layer should allow this to my understanding as it does for other masks, should speed things up!
Never heard of the Orton effect before this video so thank you, and yes more on that please. Also, I use Nik FX a lot, mostly the tone mapping and silver FX to add a little punch to my images. Loving your vids, you have really nice calm way of explaining things👍
I guess the % of usage depends on how well you know the software, and how well you take your shots. PS can do way more than LR, but not every image needs it. I noticed that the better your capture is, the less PS is needed, unless you really want to go artistic. But if your image isn't perfect, well, PS can be way more helpful. Sharpening, luminosity masks, color grading, dodging and burning, correcting fringes, merging images, correcting panoramas, artistic effects, oorton, noise reduction... The list could continue in favor of PS. But at the end of the day, it's everybody's individual preference. And if the image will have crappy composition, no software will help.
The spot removal tool in Lightroom is really only useful for removing dust spots. Being a mirrorless shooter, it’s very useful for me. I’d like to see an expanded Orton Effect video. Sounds interesting.
I regularly watch your programmes. Regarding the current video - Photoshop over Lightroom - regarding cloning in Photoshop. I use a vey simple three step method on a Mac in Photoshop to clone out an object is - Lasso tool - Shift + F5 and in one click it will disappear.
Very interesting! Thank you, Nigel. Since a lot of time i use the Orton Effects in combination with TK Actions. But next time I‘ll try some photos using your way to give the Orton-glamour.
Great video, always good to see how someone else uses a piece of software. Might have to have ago at using these techniques, normally I'm a straight into lightroom and that's it. Thanks for the time explaining it.
Any chance you can do a couple of videos covering 1) the best in camera setting to produce the best image sizes to print 2) the setting in camera & Lightroom to produce best pano prints? Please!!
Hello Nigel. Great video once again. I use Lightroom 99.5% of the time and yet, your video convinced me that I should start using Photoshop a lot more. I was wondering if, one day, you can do a video on how to get rid of those obnoxious halos that we get when the light source is behind the subject. There are times where I can get rid of them by tweaking the image using Lightroom Classic's detail panel and the brush tool, but for the most part it is time consuming and the final outcome is usually unacceptable.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise, Nigel. I love taking pictures of landscapes too, this video fits like a glove. By the way, is that a piano behind you in the video? You're quite a complete artist, mate!
I like the Orton effect. I can’t recall which you tuber method I chose but it works. If I am honest I probably use it in a rather heavy handed way for most people’s taste. Net, yes a video would be nice, Nigel
About the only few things I find that I need PS for is spot removal (anything more than dust spots, which LR handles reasonably well but not always), exposure blending and focus stacking. Most other stuff can be be done in modern versions of Lightroom. The one thing about the color space is that you can configure Camera RAW for a specific color space (say ProPhoto RGB or Adobe RGB) and it can be told to use that specific color space / settings each time you launch it, so I don't think that that is a critical component -- although I think it does default to just Adobe RGB and not ProPhoto RGB like LR does, out of the box).
I agree that Lightroom offers much of the image editing capability of Photoshop for single-layer edits and, in many cases provides a superior user interface. But, while others find Lightroom's masking tools useful, they've always felt awkward, slow, & imprecise in my hand. (Definitely a subjective assessment.) So the workflow I use divides the image edits into two classes: Global manipulations that apply across the entirety of the original raw dataset I perform in Lightroom. Local manipulations that apply only to specific regions of an image I execute in Photoshop. Like you do with the Nik filter set, I access the Topaz suite through Photoshop as well, always to a separate layer so I can blend, mask, or revise those functions' outputs in forming the final image. Thanks for your presentation. Though I lean on Photoshop more than do you, it's educational to hear about how other photographers come to engage the workflows they've chosen. It also serves to occasionally challenge the rationale behind my own stylistic choices least the answer one day be the awful "because that's how I always do it." Cheers.
Love the oak tree picture! I find the spot healing brush tool often (not always) very handy for removing small things like the water trough and the poles. Most of the times, it does the same thing as when I would select it with the lasso tool and then use content-aware fill. I have seen videos about the Orton Effect before, but I'm still not really sure how to do this. Would you make a video about this someday, where you explain step by step how to do this?
Nigel, a question, if I may : don't you wish Adobe would add layers and other select tools to Lightroom ? Many of us asked for these features during the alpha/beta testing phase for LR ; Adobe's response was always, "soon". But here we are years later still requiring to bounce back and forth between PS and LR.
Yes please to video on the Orton effect. You seem to do it differently from what I've seen before. Also, I had difficulty seeing what you were doing (especially text) in this episode. Was this in 4k? Or perhaps if you temporarily reduce the screen resolution on your screen so that the text is bigger? Cheers.
Thanks Nigel. I'd like to hear more of your details on creating the orton effect too. LM looks like an interesting way to do it, do you also modify the mask to apply only on specific features of the scene? e.g. only on the leaves or grass or include everything including tree trunks, foreground grass, mountains?
Just got lightroom and I'm actually shocked at how bad the clone/heal for spot removal is. I scan my dad's old slides and fly through the touching up with Canon DPP in no time, and it does a really good job at healing and removing cables, and so simple to use. Not tried photoshop yet but will have to give that a go.
Great Video, some more insights about the orten effect would be really nice. I haven't used for now. Also I personally use PS for sharping sometime. It's just through a highpass filter and really can add some crispness into to the final image.
This was again a really helpful video: I also do use PS only with a few recipes e.g. stacking. I saw several videos about the Orton effect but they seemed to be more simple (Thomas Heaton an Nick Page). I would love to see a comparison between the methods.
Great video again, many thanks. I find if my image is more simple with less distractions I can manually stack my images, however I took some in my local forest yesterday with firns everywhere and had to use auto blend. Like you say it worked but there were areas of blur... I think if it's for insta you can get away with it but for prints not so.
I prefer Affinity Photo over Photoshop, is cheap and powerful. I use it for your same reasons, a lot for bracketing due to the "not so wide" dynamic range (before the EOS 70D now EOS 6DmkII) . Interesting the use of the gradient as alternative to brush in layer mask. Thanks Nigel.
Nice and honest work as always. Everybody in the photography world is talking about the famous Orton Effect. It almost means that you arent a real photographer if you dont use the effect. Its becoming too much. By the way, dodge and burn is another task for me in Photoshop. Better controls.
Informative video. For panoramic pictures do you use Lightroom or Photoshop to merge them? I have traditionally just used Lightroom and was wondering if Photoshop is better or the same.?
Very helpful and informative video Nigel and confirms my current practice (95%LR, 5%PS). I guess question in the back of my mind is "am I missing something by not dedicated more time to PS?". I see other well-known landscape photographers swear by PS as their main editing software and lots of discussion of luminosity masks (which seem particularly complicated). But it's not clear to me the results from all the extra time and effort in PS are actually worth it?
My usage is pretty much the same as yours - mostly just for content-aware fill or cloning, and for focus stacking. I've found it's sometimes faster at producing panoramas than lightroom is on my computer, but I still prefer Lightroom because of the preview option. I have started experimenting with luminosity masks (using a free plugin version created by the person behind Lumenzia) too. I don't do big edits like sky replacements, but I do occasionally use photoshop to add in a bird or person from another frame, if I feel it tells the story better. I always declare that kind of editing, though.
Would you say that LR is better than Ps for portraits as well? Just wondering if it's not views, if you prefer a different software to work with (I'm completely new to photo editing!) Thank you. Really enjoyed the video :)
I select the photo I want to edit in in Bridge then open it up in raw to that essentially has everything that Lightroom has, then I'll open my image as a smart object into Photoshop to do further editing. Having opened my image as a smart object I'm able to back into ACR and work on the raw file.
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Yes I would like to see more on the Orton Effect.
This was a different way then how I learned .... can't wait to try!
This was never done, am I wrong?
@@ianhawke Not that I am aware of.
Orten effect video--yes please!
I increasingly use Lumenzia for luminosity masking. Just today I rescued an image from a few years ago by adding Orton effect but masking out the foreground element I wanted to keep sharp. My current process is to adjust exposure, white balance, color adjustments, and lens corrections in LR. Then Photoshop to dodge and burn via luminosity masks, sharpening if warranted, edge patrol and distraction removal; then Orton effect if desired. Then back to LR to crop and vignette. Until two months ago I only used PS for focus/exposure stacking and cleanup. Now I'm a blended processor. I just bought Topaz DeNoise, also. That will be my program for noise removal before I do anything else, if needed. I'm a former painter, so doing all this adjustment may sound like work to some but I find it fun.
Interesting, did you try any other Luminosity masking panels before deciding on Lumenzia?
I use PS for exactly the same things, plus special effects. I also used it for sky replacement but I now use Luminar 4 which usually does a better job in a fraction of the time and effort (Luminar's masking is impeccable).
Nigel, there is nothing wrong with replacing a sky or otherwise manipulating a photo -- as long as you make it clear that the result is such, that it is a composite and not a single-shot photograph. I travel frequently with my sons' Scout troop and see many wonderful locations mid-day with horrible lighting. I still photograph them because I'll not have another chance. Some of these I manipulate with sky replacement and more to create beautiful art.
Just recently, one of my best-ever works was a stunner I made from boring mid-day photo of a popular waterfall that I turned into a truly jaw-dropping image. I've disclosed to everyone what I've done and I've gotten no complaints, but only inquiries about the software and techniques I used. Honestly, I think I get more respect and compliments for my manipulations than I do for my photography.
I guess I'm one of the few who hadn't heard of the Orten effect. Would enjoy seeing more, especially any details about how you control the range of highlights selected for your mask. Very nice video. Thank you for doing it.
I really like your pragmatic approach, which seems to be driven more by the ends than the means. Which is to say that you use the tools your are comfortable with to get the results you want. Sure, there are plenty of other great tools available that can achieve similar results in different ways, but their selection is a technical (or sometimes financial) choice, not artistic. I haven’t found another tool that has a feature as powerful as content aware fill, but it’s just a matter of time before others copy it, although there is a LOT of engineering magic behind it.
Nigel... I love the borders on your photos. Will you please do a video on your process for adding them?
Superb........ Interesting video as always Nigel. I use ACR and PS much more than Lr because I feel I have more fine control and can make more fine adjustment layers and I have options with blending methods/layer masks etc.
Nigel, you consistently produce videos that I find inspiring and informative. Thanks for all the hard work and thought you put into them. Yes please more on achieving the Orton Effect!
Yes, love to see a video on the Orton effect. Right after the video on panoramics.
I believe NIK is underrated. I’ve been a user for 8-10 years. Most of my work is design and layout. I work a lot with stock photos and/or the occasional photo shoot. NIK plug-ins give me the extra boost I need and what I love about it is I can preview what I’m getting and save it to separate composited layer. Thanks for mentioning NIK in this video.
Thanks, very helpful. The toughest thing is sometimes not the mechanics, but knowing when to use it.
Photoshop is definitely something I need to learn more about and would definitely like to see a video on the Orten effect
Nik Collection, at least in its old an free of charge version, integrates as well with Lightroom as it does with Photoshop. The only advantage of PS comes into play if you need layers to soften or blend the effect that Nik has created.
As for the balance LR/PS, in my case it's even as high as about 99/1. But the reasons for taking the extra steps in PS are exactly those you've pointed out in your video, except for the Nik filters as I've mentioned.
I would love to see different ways to use the Orton Effect!
Your photography skills are awesome. I also really appreciate how informative you are when teaching!!! So easy to understand and follow.
I appreciate your honesty about only 5-10% going to Photoshop (of course, it can very effective there), but for me it's all Lightroom for all the rest, too. Big thanks!
I've watched bits and pieces on youtube for years but never bothered creating an account. Your vids are so good that I created one just to subscribe to watch tips and tricks/advice of yours! thanks and keep em coming
Good to know that you're using Photoshop for the same kind of things that I do. I just did a work through on your Orton effect process and it worked 😁 I've been finding these tutorials of yours very useful. Lots of videos doing similar things on RUclips but I prefer to see the Danson versions because I follow you anyway. Would also love see a closer look at Orton. Thanks for keeping me sane during lockdown.
That actually was a very good vlog Nigel. Not sure on 4 and 5 , but first 3 excellent viewing.
Looking forward to seeing you out an about, hopefully soon.
Thanks for sharing again Nigel.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks so much Nigel!! I'd like to hear more of your details on creating the orton effect too. Thanks so much! Greetings from Argentina
kinda heartwarming for me to see 2020 videos as kind miss previous times btw perfect thumbnail that was
I’ve been wanting to ask you for ages whether you use photoshop or not, and now I know! I would definitely be interested in a separate video on the Orton effect - looks like it might be good for waterfalls! Love your work as always Nigel.
thanks so much
Great job! Really nice that you shared the edit with us.
I'm an avid viewer and working my way through your Masterclass. I find Lightroom pretty intuitive and with reading and watching guides (you at the top of the list) my knowledge of LR is growing - and I see improvements in my photos. But PS, I find it really hard work, not something that is easily self taught. You make it look easy, but when I open PS its like being lost in a wash of icon trays and widgets! I know that I am running out of time because I will need to use it eventually for focus stacking and the content aware feature does look cool compared to LR's rather lumpy effort. Great video. Would be interesting to know if you would consider a PS focused course?
Just found your series of videos. I find them helpful and easy to follow. Trying out your techniques to help improve mine. Interesting LR vs PS video too. Cheers
Great Information Nigel. THank you so much.
Fascinating to see your approach to creating the Orton Effect. Never seen that method before. Seems to create a more natural result. Would love to see a separate video on this as you suggest.
Thank you so much for all your great tutorials......
Yeah I’d like to see a good video on the Orton effect. There’s so many conflicting opinions and methods out there!
For your focus stacking I'm sure you can edit the mask layer to remove those areas that photoshop has mistaken for foreground/background. Selecting the mask within the layer should allow this to my understanding as it does for other masks, should speed things up!
yep you can
The layer mask tip is really good! Wasn't familiar with that technique. Thanks Nigel!
Love the Orton Effect - would love to see more (with photoshop and Nix software. Thanks for a great lesson. J
Great video as always and I am looking forward to see one about the Orton effect! Thx
Never heard of the Orton effect before this video so thank you, and yes more on that please.
Also, I use Nik FX a lot, mostly the tone mapping and silver FX to add a little punch to my images.
Loving your vids, you have really nice calm way of explaining things👍
Agree ... 95% of work done with Lightroom. But things like Content Aware Fill are very helpful. I also like to use Photoshop for luminosity blending.
I guess the % of usage depends on how well you know the software, and how well you take your shots. PS can do way more than LR, but not every image needs it. I noticed that the better your capture is, the less PS is needed, unless you really want to go artistic. But if your image isn't perfect, well, PS can be way more helpful. Sharpening, luminosity masks, color grading, dodging and burning, correcting fringes, merging images, correcting panoramas, artistic effects, oorton, noise reduction... The list could continue in favor of PS. But at the end of the day, it's everybody's individual preference. And if the image will have crappy composition, no software will help.
Very useful information. I vote for a video on a more extended discussion of different ways you apply the Orton effect.
Super, this is so interesting and informative Nigel...I learn a lot from your videos
Glad you enjoyed it
That tree..... Love it. Perfect. Thank you
Thanks for a great video. Really interesting.
I would be really interested if you went through the Orton Effect technique you use.
Enjoyed the video and the use of the graduated filter. An additional video using the Orton effect would be helpful. Thanks
Great Video Nigel..... you should look at Lumiar for Orton effects and other IA capabilities.
The spot removal tool in Lightroom is really only useful for removing dust spots. Being a mirrorless shooter, it’s very useful for me. I’d like to see an expanded Orton Effect video. Sounds interesting.
Yes for the Orton effect.
I use Nik effect directly in Lightroom.
I regularly watch your programmes. Regarding the current video - Photoshop over Lightroom - regarding cloning in Photoshop. I use a vey simple three step method on a Mac in Photoshop to clone out an object is - Lasso tool - Shift + F5 and in one click it will disappear.
Yes please to Orton effect tutorial
Very interesting! Thank you, Nigel.
Since a lot of time i use the Orton Effects in combination with TK Actions. But next time I‘ll try some photos using your way to give the Orton-glamour.
Good blog. Orton effect is like HDR; good if applied well and subtly and rarely, hideous when over applied, overoften.
Great video, always good to see how someone else uses a piece of software. Might have to have ago at using these techniques, normally I'm a straight into lightroom and that's it. Thanks for the time explaining it.
Orton effect is pretty easy in Luminar. Just move a slider to the right...
Any chance you can do a couple of videos covering 1) the best in camera setting to produce the best image sizes to print 2) the setting in camera & Lightroom to produce best pano prints?
Please!!
Yes, I'm interested in knowing more about the orton effect. Thanks for sharing
Another great video Nigel, thank you. Would love to see a specific Orton video 👍
That is really helpful. I've never been thing about nature photography, but with your channel, I think I will try.
Hello Nigel. Great video once again. I use Lightroom 99.5% of the time and yet, your video convinced me that I should start using Photoshop a lot more.
I was wondering if, one day, you can do a video on how to get rid of those obnoxious halos that we get when the light source is behind the subject. There are times where I can get rid of them by tweaking the image using Lightroom Classic's detail panel and the brush tool, but for the most part it is time consuming and the final outcome is usually unacceptable.
thanks for your great videos, im interested in viewing more on the orton effect
Your work consistently inspires me to get better landscape photos. Thanks for that! What focal length do you most commonly use for your photos?
Depends - probably 24mm
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise, Nigel. I love taking pictures of landscapes too, this video fits like a glove. By the way, is that a piano behind you in the video? You're quite a complete artist, mate!
P.S.: I'd love to learn more about the Orton Effect.
I like the Orton effect. I can’t recall which you tuber method I chose but it works. If I am honest I probably use it in a rather heavy handed way for most people’s taste. Net, yes a video would be nice, Nigel
Great video! I would love to see a video on your Orton process.
You can use NIK plug-ins directly from LR, no need for PS unless you want to selectively apply the effectives using a brush
About the only few things I find that I need PS for is spot removal (anything more than dust spots, which LR handles reasonably well but not always), exposure blending and focus stacking. Most other stuff can be be done in modern versions of Lightroom. The one thing about the color space is that you can configure Camera RAW for a specific color space (say ProPhoto RGB or Adobe RGB) and it can be told to use that specific color space / settings each time you launch it, so I don't think that that is a critical component -- although I think it does default to just Adobe RGB and not ProPhoto RGB like LR does, out of the box).
Would love to see more on the Orton Effect, since I tend to use it quite often and there are so many approaches!
I agree that Lightroom offers much of the image editing capability of Photoshop for single-layer edits and, in many cases provides a superior user interface. But, while others find Lightroom's masking tools useful, they've always felt awkward, slow, & imprecise in my hand. (Definitely a subjective assessment.)
So the workflow I use divides the image edits into two classes: Global manipulations that apply across the entirety of the original raw dataset I perform in Lightroom. Local manipulations that apply only to specific regions of an image I execute in Photoshop. Like you do with the Nik filter set, I access the Topaz suite through Photoshop as well, always to a separate layer so I can blend, mask, or revise those functions' outputs in forming the final image.
Thanks for your presentation. Though I lean on Photoshop more than do you, it's educational to hear about how other photographers come to engage the workflows they've chosen. It also serves to occasionally challenge the rationale behind my own stylistic choices least the answer one day be the awful "because that's how I always do it."
Cheers.
thanks for sharing, Nigel. I would like to see more on the Orten Effect
More to come!
Love the oak tree picture! I find the spot healing brush tool often (not always) very handy for removing small things like the water trough and the poles. Most of the times, it does the same thing as when I would select it with the lasso tool and then use content-aware fill. I have seen videos about the Orton Effect before, but I'm still not really sure how to do this. Would you make a video about this someday, where you explain step by step how to do this?
Great information, a video using the Orton effect would be very helpful.
Would love to see a video on how to make border. Thanks.
Nigel, a question, if I may : don't you wish Adobe would add layers and other select tools to Lightroom ? Many of us asked for these features during the alpha/beta testing phase for LR ; Adobe's response was always, "soon". But here we are years later still requiring to bounce back and forth between PS and LR.
Good reminder Nigel..cheers.
Thanks Nigel. I'm one who prefers being out taking photos to sitting in front of a computer, so my LR/PS ratio is about the same as yours.
Yes please to video on the Orton effect. You seem to do it differently from what I've seen before. Also, I had difficulty seeing what you were doing (especially text) in this episode. Was this in 4k? Or perhaps if you temporarily reduce the screen resolution on your screen so that the text is bigger? Cheers.
Ignore my comments about finding it hard to see - for some reason my RUclips resolution had switched to low. D'oh!
Great video as always nigel! Is there any benefit to focus stacking versus using a high f stop?
There is as the smaller the aperture (higher f-stop) the softer the overall image as diffraction takes effect.
Thanks Nigel. I'd like to hear more of your details on creating the orton effect too. LM looks like an interesting way to do it, do you also modify the mask to apply only on specific features of the scene? e.g. only on the leaves or grass or include everything including tree trunks, foreground grass, mountains?
It would be useful for a video on the orton effect! Great video as usual
Loved the video Nigel. I'd like to hear more about your camera experience in a video, if you think that might be worth talking about. :)
Just got lightroom and I'm actually shocked at how bad the clone/heal for spot removal is. I scan my dad's old slides and fly through the touching up with Canon DPP in no time, and it does a really good job at healing and removing cables, and so simple to use. Not tried photoshop yet but will have to give that a go.
Great Video, some more insights about the orten effect would be really nice. I haven't used for now. Also I personally use PS for sharping sometime. It's just through a highpass filter and really can add some crispness into to the final image.
This was again a really helpful video: I also do use PS only with a few recipes e.g. stacking. I saw several videos about the Orton effect but they seemed to be more simple (Thomas Heaton an Nick Page). I would love to see a comparison between the methods.
Great video again, many thanks. I find if my image is more simple with less distractions I can manually stack my images, however I took some in my local forest yesterday with firns everywhere and had to use auto blend. Like you say it worked but there were areas of blur... I think if it's for insta you can get away with it but for prints not so.
Great video, more useful PS takeaways and yup would like to see a more detailed video on the Orion effect 👍
Batch re-sizing can be done super quickly without opening anything just using MS PowerToys (if you're on Windows).
Great video, Nigel !!
I prefer Affinity Photo over Photoshop, is cheap and powerful. I use it for your same reasons, a lot for bracketing due to the "not so wide" dynamic range (before the EOS 70D now EOS 6DmkII) . Interesting the use of the gradient as alternative to brush in layer mask. Thanks Nigel.
Very instructive, thank you.
Nigel, enjoy your channel very much and would like to see more about the Orten effect.
One more vote for the Orton effect video. :) I would also be interested in your take on luminosity masks.
It's helpful to learn different ways to apply the Orton effect, a video with your perspective would be appreciated. Thank you!
Nice and honest work as always. Everybody in the photography world is talking about the famous Orton Effect. It almost means that you arent a real photographer if you dont use the effect. Its becoming too much. By the way, dodge and burn is another task for me in Photoshop. Better controls.
As always great video..
And I always love the word 'but' as BWAT
Informative video. For panoramic pictures do you use Lightroom or Photoshop to merge them? I have traditionally just used Lightroom and was wondering if Photoshop is better or the same.?
Very helpful and informative video Nigel and confirms my current practice (95%LR, 5%PS). I guess question in the back of my mind is "am I missing something by not dedicated more time to PS?". I see other well-known landscape photographers swear by PS as their main editing software and lots of discussion of luminosity masks (which seem particularly complicated). But it's not clear to me the results from all the extra time and effort in PS are actually worth it?
My usage is pretty much the same as yours - mostly just for content-aware fill or cloning, and for focus stacking. I've found it's sometimes faster at producing panoramas than lightroom is on my computer, but I still prefer Lightroom because of the preview option. I have started experimenting with luminosity masks (using a free plugin version created by the person behind Lumenzia) too. I don't do big edits like sky replacements, but I do occasionally use photoshop to add in a bird or person from another frame, if I feel it tells the story better. I always declare that kind of editing, though.
Good video Nigel. Yes please Orten (and Glamour Glow in Nik)
Would you say that LR is better than Ps for portraits as well? Just wondering if it's not views, if you prefer a different software to work with (I'm completely new to photo editing!) Thank you.
Really enjoyed the video :)
Nigel, excellent Video a useful learning tool for me . Thanks
I select the photo I want to edit in in Bridge then open it up in raw to that essentially has everything that Lightroom has, then I'll open my image as a smart object into Photoshop to do further editing. Having opened my image as a smart object I'm able to back into ACR and work on the raw file.
Great video, would love to see more on the Orton Effect.
Really good tutorial. I personnaly do not use LR anymore since I discovered Capture One. But the way you edit is similar ! Thanks !