Film Theory: The Spiderman 2 Mystery! Why Spiderman Lost His Powers!

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2019
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    We've seen a lot of Spider-Man lately. Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and soon Spider-Man: Far From Home. Before that we saw Andrew Garfield slinging webs with Emma Stone for a couple movies, but I want you to think FURTHER back. That's right, I'm talking Tobey Maguire Spider-Man.
    Remember how at the end of his first movie EVERYTHING had gone wrong? Norman Osborn - the Green Goblin - was gone, his best friend was fatherless, Uncle Ben did what all Uncle Ben's do, etc.. It was all very sad. In Spider-Man 2, we see a Spider-Man without his powers. I want to talk about WHY he lost his powers. What made our friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man just plain, old Peter Parker?
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Комментарии • 19 тыс.

  • @sirturtlethegreat7190
    @sirturtlethegreat7190 5 лет назад +7058

    For once my childhood is improved and not brutally murdered

    • @justabean3487
      @justabean3487 5 лет назад +144

      Ikr this movie is the best spider man movie

    • @marcusward6235
      @marcusward6235 5 лет назад +69

      I think "embraced" is a more accurate term.

    • @javanrench2094
      @javanrench2094 5 лет назад +30

      Sir Turtle The Great it’s impossible for a childhood to be murderd

    • @cowmoosh
      @cowmoosh 5 лет назад +43

      Good point usually MatPat turns my favorite characters into villains.

    • @insufferableanarchist
      @insufferableanarchist 5 лет назад +30

      Matpat has officially failed at his job then

  • @malikbessaadia440
    @malikbessaadia440 4 года назад +2922

    "Sometimes the most heroic thing you can do is taking care of yourself" - MatPat

  • @tentedeagle5401
    @tentedeagle5401 2 года назад +720

    (SPOILER WARNING for No Way Home!!!)
    What's cool about this video is that MatPat was right, because in No Way Home, Toby answers Tom's question about if it (webs) ever runs out. Toby answers< "Existential Crisis"

    • @zipzer5187
      @zipzer5187 Год назад +56

      plus the other peters give tom advice on how to deal with the stress/trauma of loss

    • @Queerqueen1234
      @Queerqueen1234 Год назад +12

      Thank you so much for the spoiler warning!☺️

    • @sayba6766
      @sayba6766 Год назад +4

      yea

    • @ItsTropixal
      @ItsTropixal Год назад +2

      Yeah I was hoping someone would say that!

    • @trevorrose3769
      @trevorrose3769 Год назад +14

      I remember a scene where Andrew was asking Toby’s Spider-Man on the scaffolding about why he thought his powers were lost and I remember when Toby said, “I went through some things” I realized that line had to be a reference to this theory

  • @ronnieyates8527
    @ronnieyates8527 2 года назад +120

    Mat is basically right. The movie almost outright states that he was sick. From keeping his love for MJ inside, losing his best friend, the death of his uncle and the responsibility of keeping the city safe. His powers went dormant (Like how you can't smell when you catch a cold), so he took a break and discovered that there were still people out there who appreciated him and took the good he did and spread it throughout New York City. Knowing that people were still there for him, and that people still loved him gave him the strength he needed to get his powers back.

  • @leepicx1460
    @leepicx1460 3 года назад +2497

    This shows how Spider-man is still a human after all, he gets sick, gets tired and feel more pain when he's stressed or depressed

  • @samuelneil2691
    @samuelneil2691 4 года назад +3598

    This theory makes the movies feel so much deeper emotionally.

    • @wisespidey
      @wisespidey 3 года назад +6

      Ikr

    • @user-kx8pu6ys5i
      @user-kx8pu6ys5i 3 года назад +30

      Surprisingly so yeah

    • @nathannilson4392
      @nathannilson4392 3 года назад +40

      I know. The MCU lacks this kind of stuff.

    • @joahanramirez5811
      @joahanramirez5811 3 года назад +13

      Oh man, we're all like Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man. We all just young adults trying to figure it out.

    • @swinepine
      @swinepine 3 года назад +10

      @@nathannilson4392 Tony Stark's character arc was emotional.

  • @helencaldwell2964
    @helencaldwell2964 2 года назад +550

    This was outright confirmed in no way home!
    Good job, matpat!

    • @duckman9327
      @duckman9327 2 года назад +29

      I know, the man predicts things years before without even trying

    • @Quiyum
      @Quiyum 2 года назад +18

      @@duckman9327 his infinity war prediction was way off lol

    • @PumpkinKing-ruler-of-pumpkins
      @PumpkinKing-ruler-of-pumpkins 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@Quiyum and many others were wrong and many others where right hes 50/50 as all things should be

    • @derrickdaniels3955
      @derrickdaniels3955 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@PumpkinKing-ruler-of-pumpkins😂

    • @quantingtondinglitson4591
      @quantingtondinglitson4591 10 месяцев назад +3

      where

  • @II_worm_II
    @II_worm_II 2 года назад +39

    2 years later and Mat Pat was right in No way Home Tobey says he had Web block (power lose) due to "existential crisis stuff"

    • @reeddeer9737
      @reeddeer9737 2 года назад +1

      cool a spoiler
      nice to know tobey's in spider-man 3 :/

    • @buddy1852
      @buddy1852 2 года назад +4

      @@reeddeer9737 The movie has been out for a month and I wouldn't be on the internet too much if I really dont want a movie spoiled. Plus if you have to be on the internet I wouldn't watch a video on a character highly rumored to return.

  • @mattrichmond4636
    @mattrichmond4636 4 года назад +1763

    MJ: Do you love me?
    Peter: I-
    *ad appears*

    • @axfinity9134
      @axfinity9134 4 года назад +164

      Peter: I - I use Audible everyday, and listen to their collection of over 1,000 audiobooks

    • @favianguerra8954
      @favianguerra8954 4 года назад +21

      It happened to me too

    • @kateliu5476
      @kateliu5476 4 года назад +42

      i- use treseme hair care

    • @mars1336
      @mars1336 4 года назад +10

      I-I love pizza more than u

    • @hhh-sg2bu
      @hhh-sg2bu 4 года назад +2

      ]

  • @filipman
    @filipman 4 года назад +1390

    Also the doctor from Spider-Man 2 said it was psychological

    • @Tsimon206
      @Tsimon206 4 года назад +40

      I know I was about to say that

    • @clipboss8052
      @clipboss8052 3 года назад +9

      I mean yeah, but he never explains in what form. I knew there was guilt and anxiety, but this theory gave me a whole new way of looking at these scenes from Spider-Man 2.

    • @Zer0Fox_gibbon
      @Zer0Fox_gibbon 3 года назад +9

      True, but it wasn't fully explain d beyond 'psychological' that's a base term, like if you were to ask someone what car they have and they respond with 'one with wheels'

    • @filipman
      @filipman 3 года назад +1

      lee walker true

    • @kevinw712
      @kevinw712 3 года назад +3

      yeah this almost sort of feels like a "midichlorians" kind of thing, like it's not needed to get THIS specific on why/how something is. An average viewer can extrapolate from the psychological reasoning given in the movie to what more it could mean to have it be plenty reasonable to appreciate the movie and not feel like something substantial was left too ambiguous.

  • @panicattheanimationstudio5673
    @panicattheanimationstudio5673 2 года назад +781

    Spoilers!
    Matpat was more or less right. In Spiderman no way home Tobey's Peter says that he had that loss of powers due to an existential crisis

    • @MADHAV-FF007
      @MADHAV-FF007 2 года назад +54

      Maybe the director watched this video

    • @Jejdjejbfjf
      @Jejdjejbfjf 2 года назад +19

      Matt mentioned PTSD, which is totally different from just an existential crisis, so I think Matt was totally wrong.

    • @jillyanconnell3212
      @jillyanconnell3212 2 года назад +12

      pretty much, they also talked about web blockage which could've also caused it

    • @wolfy.makes.art._
      @wolfy.makes.art._ 2 года назад +4

      I was just thinking the exact same thing lol

    • @Jejdjejbfjf
      @Jejdjejbfjf 2 года назад +7

      @@eduardosantiago6948 existential crisis and ptsd can be totally different… the latter is a mental illness term which should not be used loosely. Maybe do some research on mental health first before using these terms.

  • @baljeetbavde
    @baljeetbavde 2 года назад +97

    imagine how happy he will be when he sees his theory being proven right in no way home

  • @peterwilson5307
    @peterwilson5307 5 лет назад +556

    *I'LL GET MY POWERS WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR*

  • @MattMann-cr2nj
    @MattMann-cr2nj 3 года назад +3503

    Matpat: let's say what a great year 2018 was
    Me in 2020: enjoy it, it won't last.

  • @kk_jacket6797
    @kk_jacket6797 2 года назад +107

    You can also see this in Spiderman: Far From Home, where Tom Holland's spiderman couldn't use his spider senses.
    It's because he too also went through a traumatic event, His own Death and Iron Man's, this is more than just a theory, its spot on.

    • @irisbutterfly4845
      @irisbutterfly4845 Год назад +3

      Wait. Are you talking about the banana?

    • @pharaohatem6962
      @pharaohatem6962 Год назад +4

      It was only until he accepted his flaws and became his own person that he got full control of them

  • @Thatonecalled_neon
    @Thatonecalled_neon 11 месяцев назад +6

    Funny thing is, my mom was studying medicine when I first watched the second movie as a kid, and she already solved it before this theory came out. She said that Peter wasen't eating well and feelinf sad(Simple words for a child) wich may mean depression and eating disorders.

  • @turtle9400
    @turtle9400 3 года назад +1094

    Wasn’t there a line of Otto saying bottling up love can make you sick, which was exactly what Peter did

    • @alfred3842
      @alfred3842 2 года назад +7

      Which Otto tho?

    • @Mrjer8
      @Mrjer8 2 года назад +12

      Yea that’s how he lost his powers

    • @kostadim7892
      @kostadim7892 2 года назад +7

      @@alfred3842 which Otto? The one in the movie genius

    • @johnyt657
      @johnyt657 2 года назад +3

      @@kostadim7892 He means was it Otto or the Tentacles who said it 🤦‍♂️

    • @kostadim7892
      @kostadim7892 2 года назад +3

      @@johnyt657 Lmfao alright buddy, first I’ve heard people refer to the guy as two different people

  • @DanielSambar
    @DanielSambar 5 лет назад +12428

    _He lost his powers due to the lack of pizza time._

  • @Thecloaker_
    @Thecloaker_ 2 года назад +25

    “A mystery i think i can solve today”
    No way home:
    “Funny you mention that i actually did have a web block.”
    “Oh really? Why?”
    “Existential crisis”
    Love how you do all this work then in no way home he just says existential crisis as to why he loses his power.

    • @dafilmqueen556
      @dafilmqueen556 Год назад +2

      But an existential crisis could also be caused by PTSD. He had no self-love or self-identity for himself that time, maybe that's why he had an existential crisis.

  • @retrocadeza
    @retrocadeza 10 месяцев назад +4

    The emotional trauma reasoning has been prevalent throughout Spider-Man 2, I get the whole first movie emotional connections but they made sure to make it known in way more subtle ways in spiderman 2. He kept takings L’s till he threw away his suit.

  • @MyHeadsHollow
    @MyHeadsHollow 4 года назад +1340

    *uses game theory logo for film theory intro*
    Me: what sorcery is this!?!

    • @yolo_twice5827
      @yolo_twice5827 4 года назад +71

      This is the theory cinematic universe

    • @jaihou1610
      @jaihou1610 4 года назад +3

      Icee Clash I agree

    • @boeyzhang8565
      @boeyzhang8565 4 года назад +5

      @@yolo_twice5827 lol

    • @imparanoiiid
      @imparanoiiid 4 года назад +14

      Icee Clash CONSPIRACY THEORY mat pat from game theory is the same mat pat from film theory

    • @gabbywilliams5374
      @gabbywilliams5374 4 года назад +6

      @@imparanoiiid doubt it...

  • @KusogakiRenfir
    @KusogakiRenfir 5 лет назад +503

    Not paying your rent = No powers.

  • @LegoSpidermanFan
    @LegoSpidermanFan Год назад +3

    I always viewed it somewhat similarly. I just saw it as he lost his will to be spider-man. He stopped being motivated to do it and his body responded.
    Movies kind of do that sometimes, like in revenge of the sith padme loses the will to live but it’s never really dived into

  • @IzzuZiq
    @IzzuZiq 2 года назад +8

    One thing to note is that even in the comics, Peter at one point does lose his powers due to mental stress. Not as badly as in the Raimi movies, but it proves this plot point has its basis in the source material and the movie kinda sorta hints to his powers being tied to his mental state. Just not explicit and of course, like other recent comments, is confirmed in No Way Home.
    Speaking of No Way Home, that whole thing at the end about saving oneself mentally is also lowkey a thing Tobey kept in mind in-universe, considering in NWH, he made sure his other selves are mentally going to be in a better place and that's beautiful

  • @shizukousapostle1stapostle710
    @shizukousapostle1stapostle710 5 лет назад +333

    2:29..... *If his powers wasn't working there.... That's definitely a cracked spine with lower body paralysis.*

  • @rager5600
    @rager5600 5 лет назад +698

    "Good year"
    •He dies in Infinity War
    •He loses his aunt
    •Both of his creators die in the same year

    • @sparten320
      @sparten320 5 лет назад +34

      i dont know if you play video games but 2018 was also a really bad year for video games sure spiderman game did well but that doesnt address all the stuff that happens in the background of other companies

    • @roboknightt04
      @roboknightt04 5 лет назад +8

      he loses HER aunt?

    • @gravelfilledSoap
      @gravelfilledSoap 5 лет назад

      Oof

    • @rager5600
      @rager5600 5 лет назад

      @@roboknightt04 Fixed

    • @fydeless4812
      @fydeless4812 5 лет назад +6

      Dude..... thanks for the spoiler alert.
      I haven’t finished Spider-Man ps4 yet. Really work on putting spoiler warnings.

  • @lettuce1626
    @lettuce1626 2 года назад +9

    They mentioned this in no way home!! He talked about existential crisis but probably wasn’t accurate just because he didn’t wanna talk too much about it

  • @aratamyat6714
    @aratamyat6714 Год назад +5

    This is, and still is, my favourite theory. It shows that peter is still a human, but a hero in helping himself and really should have been mentioned in the movie. The theory anit anything outlandish or extra, but a simple theory that makes Spider Man have so much more to think about and truly is a role model.

  • @talir9349
    @talir9349 5 лет назад +730

    Please do a theory on how many balloons are needed for the Up house to fly

    • @TonyRodriges
      @TonyRodriges 5 лет назад +32

      That’s more of a SCIENCE (Austin of course) thing if you ask me

    • @Kkmeow4
      @Kkmeow4 5 лет назад +6

      K how many yt accts do you need me to make to like this so mat pat sees this cause I totally want this to happen

    • @TonyRodriges
      @TonyRodriges 5 лет назад +10

      @Fiverumble not insulted just very very disappointed 😔 (it’s ok we all got different opinions)

    • @raleightutt7059
      @raleightutt7059 5 лет назад +4

      I've done those calculations, actually, it's around 6 million

    • @juanluisizboss5815
      @juanluisizboss5815 5 лет назад +1

      OVER 9000!!!

  • @goodydrew3488
    @goodydrew3488 5 лет назад +292

    Mat pat if Tobey Maguires Spider-Man universe was real you would definitely be a good therapist for Peter Parker

    • @blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543
      @blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543 4 года назад +6

      Erick Mii not agreeing and thinking a theory is bad are two different things just so your aware.

  • @joshuachristopher9752
    @joshuachristopher9752 2 года назад +8

    Existential crisis

  • @dafilmqueen556
    @dafilmqueen556 Год назад +3

    I love it when he said "turn people into spooky scary skeletons" in reference to the scene that has traumatized me since the first time I saw the first film. And I can't help but lose it when he says "give that man a Tony". 😅

  • @trav3226
    @trav3226 3 года назад +453

    Harry: Spider-Man will pay
    Spider powers: sorry peter I need to save both of us

  • @ethanterrell6359
    @ethanterrell6359 3 года назад +1973

    Writers of Spider-man 2: Uh, sure this is how he got his powers back.

  • @kadennorris7585
    @kadennorris7585 2 года назад +2

    I cant belive that this theory was proved 2 years after this was uploaded. In Spider-Man No Way Home toby Miguire tells the other 2 spidies about how he lost his powers for a while, they asked why and he sayed AND I QUOTE "existential crisist"

  • @rayeittastay2458
    @rayeittastay2458 2 года назад +19

    This episode actually helped me out a lot in my personal life. I liked that the topic of mental health was (theoretically) the focus of a superhero movie years before Tony Stark in Iron Man 3. I started researching depictions of mental health struggles and actual treatments used in the films, which led me to Cinema Therapy.
    If you don't know them, then you should go check them out. They talk about all types of things like how Edward and Jacob are totally abusive dickholes, to Aragorn being an idol of healthy masculinity. Hearing John and Alan talking about and even openly showing emotions made me start to take a serious look at myself. Which has then led me to making some pretty big revelations about myself. I won't go into much details but now I can say that I'm truly happy with my sexuality as an openly bisexual man.
    All of that, because I saw MatPat cover a topic that truly captured my attention and that's not a theory.

  • @armaanbal6005
    @armaanbal6005 5 лет назад +869

    This video will get monetized when you fix this DAMN DOOR!!!

    • @devingambler9685
      @devingambler9685 5 лет назад +4

      Armaan Bal you almost got me

    • @MeoplleX
      @MeoplleX 5 лет назад +1

      XDDDD

    • @fishspanker9472
      @fishspanker9472 5 лет назад +10

      It free country but not rent free country

    • @RubiksGaming18749
      @RubiksGaming18749 5 лет назад +2

      Armaan Bal
      LOL

    • @armaanbal6005
      @armaanbal6005 5 лет назад +2

      Fish Spanker true my friend but u can buy me pizza sometime so we could have some Pizza Time.

  • @foresstfire23
    @foresstfire23 5 лет назад +3764

    Peter Parker got Petey-SD

  • @FlyntPrince
    @FlyntPrince 2 года назад +6

    Great video! I never really stopped and thought about the mental health. Just goes to show you how well these films were made back then. I always thought it was a great "if this be my destiny" moment. Peter loses his powers and it was the people that brought him back. He cant stop a mugging, saves a child from a burning building, only to find out there was still one more person in there. MJ gets kidnap, fights doc ock on the train, finally saves the people and then it's the people that save him from falling off the train. That's when he knew this was his destiny. Saves the girl he loves and then shes at his doorsteps. MJ comforts him and makes him feel so secure and content with his life. Maybe that's why he was so arrogant and cocky in the third movie.. Love the rami films, I could watch them over and over again and still enjoy them

  • @blasterbolt734
    @blasterbolt734 10 месяцев назад +2

    Actually the reason for his power loss is because he didn't admit his feelings, and when he sees the one he loves in danger, that's how he gets his powers back

  • @just-a-silly-goofy-guy
    @just-a-silly-goofy-guy 5 лет назад +1664

    He lost his powers when he felt not so good

    • @bucket1442
      @bucket1442 5 лет назад +17

      Too soon.

    • @justan-eli9262
      @justan-eli9262 5 лет назад +6

      But did we need a therory to tell us that? Thanks for confirming it but we kinda get it implied by his professor

    • @SkyorSomethin
      @SkyorSomethin 5 лет назад +5

      To fast to meme

    • @jackdam1882
      @jackdam1882 5 лет назад +2

      jep,realy stupid from him i mean i was a kid and understand it.

    • @shadowa753
      @shadowa753 5 лет назад +1

      @@justan-eli9262 I wish I just got this comment in my sub feed instead. Would have saved me nearly 15 mins

  • @Kadz
    @Kadz 5 лет назад +791

    It’s theory time

    • @d29studios4
      @d29studios4 5 лет назад +9

      When you only get 2 likes

    • @shiverbim4920
      @shiverbim4920 5 лет назад +10

      @@d29studios4 But owns a verified channel

    • @shiverbim4920
      @shiverbim4920 5 лет назад +3

      F

    • @inky3678
      @inky3678 5 лет назад +2

      If I controlled theory’s I would want *fortnite* and FNAF

    • @tamo3813
      @tamo3813 5 лет назад

      this video wasn’t bad like most of his recent ones

  • @amoghverma3108
    @amoghverma3108 2 года назад +2

    Even heroes suffer depression.
    I remember how Tony Stark used to cry in Pepper's arms in anxiety...

  • @lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198
    @lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 Год назад +2

    I'm rewatching the Spider-Man films and am on the second film and just wondered this question and remembered that matpat did a film theory on it! Thanks Matpat!

  • @purplewaffles5480
    @purplewaffles5480 4 года назад +2116

    I think you meant "the boys", not the sinister six

    • @samx23
      @samx23 4 года назад +4

      Uhh..

    • @spartan113ish
      @spartan113ish 4 года назад +34

      That shitty meme didn't exist when this video came out.

    • @boeyzhang8565
      @boeyzhang8565 4 года назад

      666

    • @MrMetalStrike
      @MrMetalStrike 4 года назад +4

      Is that a reference to the books/amazon prime show named “The Boys”?

    • @glados8699
      @glados8699 4 года назад +4

      Me and yhe boys deffeting spider man

  • @amkamirin
    @amkamirin 5 лет назад +464

    Jokes aside this is the most wholesome video about a superhero suffering from mental health I have ever seen.
    It may not the original intention of the director or it was either one this put in an even better depth of the Spiderman trilogy and made the second one (which it could be the best out of all three) even better than before.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank 5 лет назад +1

      You need to watch more videos about superheroes and mental issues. Cause ones that actually talk about it rather than presenting a theory and having a side objective of talking about the actual mental health stuff as well... Well, the point is one's that focus on the mental health and illustrations of the inner struggle of the hero exist.

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 5 лет назад

      @Veit Zeret As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the movie about PTSD, at the very least?

    • @bernarda9084
      @bernarda9084 5 лет назад +2

      @@klop4228 there is, imagine being at fault or feeling at fault for the death of both your father figures. He has recurring dreams, and so on. Even in the comics, mental stress causes him to lose his power

  • @therapywithsenny1449
    @therapywithsenny1449 2 года назад +5

    I like to think it’s like emotional ED. The night he lost his powers, all within 5 minutes MJ scolded and rejected him, Harry slapped him, John announced MJ had agreed to marry him, and Jonah made Peter photograph MJ and John kissing.

  • @bladelazar1262
    @bladelazar1262 2 года назад +1

    If you think about it Tobey himself confirmed that it was an existential crisis that caused him to temporarily lose his powers

  • @thushanipremarathne6566
    @thushanipremarathne6566 3 года назад +804

    I kinda miss the old spider man. It kinda gives me a bit of nostalgia.

  • @moistfist1054
    @moistfist1054 5 лет назад +277

    I honestly thought he was gonna say something like "He lost his powers because he was not eating his own webs like a real spider"

  • @juniper3526
    @juniper3526 2 года назад +4

    The way he was actually right- they confirmed it in the new movie

  • @victordelgado670
    @victordelgado670 2 года назад +5

    Isn’t there a whole scene that explains why he lost his powers? When he’s a the doctors the doctor literally tells him he’s been over working himself and stressing him Self out

    • @shaylus_4158
      @shaylus_4158 2 года назад +1

      The doctor doesn't know he has powers dumbass

    • @victordelgado670
      @victordelgado670 2 года назад +2

      @@shaylus_4158 he heavily implies that he knows dumbass

    • @dennissaunders813
      @dennissaunders813 2 года назад

      I was thinking the exact same thing. It’s not spelled out in the movie(a lot of things in movies aren’t) but he tells the doctor “in my friends dream I’m Spider-Man” so I can’t imagine the doctor actually thinks a healthy 20-something year old man is looking for medical advice because of a friends dream.

  • @mr.romaro3422
    @mr.romaro3422 5 лет назад +591

    The real question in the movie is can you make and deliver 8 extra large deep dish pizzas across 42 blocks in New York in 29 minutes

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank 5 лет назад +15

      ... has anyone tried to figure this out? Cuz now I'm really curious.

    • @PanthereaLeonis
      @PanthereaLeonis 5 лет назад +4

      those 42 blocks, are they the total distance traveled in taxicab geometry? I believe you can, I just have to get my numbers straight. Also, I didn't watch the movies, what vehicle is he using? Ohh... I also ahve to factor in the traffic in New York. I assume this pizza delivery was in the evening, since that's when most people want their pizza.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank 5 лет назад +3

      @@PanthereaLeonis He had a moped.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank 5 лет назад

      And I don't remember any other answers to your questions, but the sun was up in that scene.

    • @Konohamaru333
      @Konohamaru333 5 лет назад

      @@PanthereaLeonis You're not taking into account the time it takes to make the pizzas

  • @dashever7345
    @dashever7345 5 лет назад +1347

    2009 - We will have flying cars i the future
    2019 - We figured out why spiderman from 14 years ago lost his powers

  • @theartofthememe1310
    @theartofthememe1310 2 года назад +2

    Wow, in No way home they confirmed this, Good Job matpat!

  • @pepekovallin
    @pepekovallin Год назад +1

    This video made me realize that my OC's tragic story and his psychology actually makes a lot of sense and I'm proud I made something solid without prior knowledge

  • @TheGap1952
    @TheGap1952 5 лет назад +614

    Spiderman 1: Peter trying to deal with the responsibilities of having great power and coming to terms with his uncle's violent death
    Spiderman 2: Peter trying to recover from PTSD while having to face a new villain and the alienation of his childhood love
    Spiderman 3: Jazz Dance

    • @anthonyshepherd265
      @anthonyshepherd265 5 лет назад +16

      A.H “now dig on this”

    • @unoreversecard8129
      @unoreversecard8129 5 лет назад +18

      SpiderMan 4 - I don’t feel so gooooood

    • @davidbrown8258
      @davidbrown8258 5 лет назад +1

      Fire ring

    • @suitingpizza1117
      @suitingpizza1117 5 лет назад +3

      Spider-man 3: finds out who his uncle's killer really was, was a doche when he hand the black suit, his Co worker gets killed and his best friend dies
      (I have watched the sam raimi spider-man moives so many time, I know what I am talking about)

    • @arcticgaming6812
      @arcticgaming6812 5 лет назад +4

      spiderman 2: pizza time

  • @UserName-me7pj
    @UserName-me7pj 4 года назад +369

    Bruh, this time you actually improved my childhood rather than brutally ripping it to shreds

    • @UserName-me7pj
      @UserName-me7pj 4 года назад +4

      @@ChickenNuggets-jf5uf shup ut noob, you mad cuz i got u xd

    • @AceofHarmony
      @AceofHarmony 4 года назад +2

      Chicken Nuggets I shall eat da nuggets

    • @SoulbroStudios
      @SoulbroStudios 4 года назад +1

      What is going on in this thread? 😂

    • @aadibelhe6957
      @aadibelhe6957 4 года назад +2

      this is a copied comment guys

  • @noah.ledterman
    @noah.ledterman 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love how MatPat put an Austin Powers reference in here

  • @SinisterPixel
    @SinisterPixel 2 года назад +3

    They actually address the reason why in Spider-Man 2 albeit very briefly. When Peter is talking to octavius about his love life, octavius mentions that matters of the heart can weigh a person down and manifest into physical weight. Both times he lost his powers were in direct response to complications with MJ.

  • @norasehestedt9624
    @norasehestedt9624 5 лет назад +367

    I have been kinda waiting on a Mr. Bean theory. I mean, in the intro, he is an alien dropping from his ship, sooooooo......oh well. Mr. Bean will have to wait I guess........

    • @Eric-dn9bx
      @Eric-dn9bx 5 лет назад +12

      Wow now IM waiting for a Mr. Bean theory lmao.

    • @MortyKaiShalom
      @MortyKaiShalom 5 лет назад +7

      You know... I never considered that may have been a UFO...

    • @sadkeo_
      @sadkeo_ 5 лет назад +2

      Now i am

    • @unit03
      @unit03 5 лет назад +4

      YES for the Mr. Bean Theory!!!
      Why is he so socially unaware!!!?

    • @spiderboyreal
      @spiderboyreal 5 лет назад +2

      He became a superhero too. He was bitten by a spider plant. And so his cells mutated and became known as Spiderplant-Man

  • @marvelhunter3076
    @marvelhunter3076 4 года назад +498

    Doc ock said that if he held love inside.. He would get sick, so he did. His love for mary jane deeply affected him.

    • @andrewcooper1565
      @andrewcooper1565 4 года назад +8

      That's honestly what I thought

    • @imijbeats8129
      @imijbeats8129 3 года назад +8

      He should’ve had a love for a different Mary Jane, maybe he woulda been fine

    • @onekthmatt
      @onekthmatt 3 года назад +16

      This can still be true but coincide with the theory. He loves Mary Jane and wants to distance himself from her because he doesn't want to go through losing her like he did Uncle Ben, and her life was already threatened once. So she's both a part of his past trauma, and her well being is a huge focus of the anxieties that his PTSD brings about.

    • @Herofromthesky
      @Herofromthesky 3 года назад +5

      Also I’m pretty sure that since he didn’t want to be Spider-Man anymore his powers went away.

    • @leejohnstone9047
      @leejohnstone9047 3 года назад

      Exactly

  • @kytkeyboardsyoureterrific439
    @kytkeyboardsyoureterrific439 11 месяцев назад +3

    I rewatched this so many times but I finally liked it because it's so good and gives a nice lesson

  • @x3Rmal
    @x3Rmal 2 года назад +4

    The neighbor girl's name is Ursula and she treats Peter much better than MJ.

  • @just-a-silly-goofy-guy
    @just-a-silly-goofy-guy 5 лет назад +1676

    The lack of pizza time caused him to lose them

  • @Kevzza
    @Kevzza 5 лет назад +439

    He lost his powers when he doubted himself and his soul reason to be Spider-man.
    "If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside.... it's gonna make you sick."

    • @CEFG100
      @CEFG100 5 лет назад +3

      spiderman11915 Yep

    • @savefluffy1276
      @savefluffy1276 5 лет назад +6

      Ha nerd (sorry I just wanted to say that)

    • @Kevzza
      @Kevzza 5 лет назад +3

      @@savefluffy1276 None taken!

    • @oliveruwu5784
      @oliveruwu5784 5 лет назад +2

      spiderman11915
      Your photo is so ironic

    • @adamwood2988
      @adamwood2988 5 лет назад +3

      Yes there should t have been a video on this at all

  • @Toxic.gaming27661
    @Toxic.gaming27661 8 месяцев назад +2

    I think the reason it wasn't addressed in the film was because it was that obvious

    • @JackStalik
      @JackStalik 3 месяца назад

      It's the whole theme of the show and parallels doc ocs trauma and how they deal with it differently.i can't believe people think it's a theory

    • @Toxic.gaming27661
      @Toxic.gaming27661 3 месяца назад +2

      Exactly if you watch the films you understand the characters and plot

  • @SilverMeg57
    @SilverMeg57 2 года назад +1

    I know it’s been a while, but I think him seeing Otto Octavius (his idol) turn into Doc Oct, just like Norman became Green Goblin might have also pushed that PTSD. Great theory as always.

  • @ianis5631
    @ianis5631 3 года назад +441

    Could it be that peter unconsciously turned off his powers since he blamed himself and his powers on harry's dad's death? Could he have thought " if it weren't for these powers, harry's dad would stll be alive" and unintentionally turned them off?

    • @ajaegamesshorts
      @ajaegamesshorts 3 года назад +32

      @Ren At His Prime kinda like he can stick and unstick to walls at will or barely thinking about it it just happens naturally

    • @Butter-Milk
      @Butter-Milk 2 года назад +12

      That happened in the comics! The Amazing Spider-Man Annual issue 1. First apperance of the Sinister Six, I think.

    • @HullsColby
      @HullsColby 2 года назад +6

      @Ren At His Prime I mean, his powers is very biological just like the old comics.
      You've seen Tom and Andrew's iteration right? The ones that follows the modern Spider-Man where they need gadgets so that they could use their powers properly.

    • @doctorstrange2451
      @doctorstrange2451 2 года назад +4

      Spider-Man was dependent on tech from the start his web shooters were always there. Organic web shooters didn't appear in comics until after the movies.

    • @HullsColby
      @HullsColby 2 года назад +1

      @@doctorstrange2451 What about the time he did have organic webbings in the comics? Was that after the Sam-Raimi movies?

  • @jimbojackson4045
    @jimbojackson4045 3 года назад +398

    You forgot another traumatic event. Aunt Mae gets hospitalized by Gobby at his own house.

    • @Doom-hd9of
      @Doom-hd9of 3 года назад +8

      was that directly or indirectly correlated to himself (I'm genuinely asking idk)?

    • @jimbojackson4045
      @jimbojackson4045 3 года назад +33

      @@Doom-hd9of Yeah. Gobby found out who he was and did that to send a message. Then he went to kidnap MJ.

    • @nkjellman
      @nkjellman 2 года назад +13

      Not to mention the events in the early part of the movie where Doc Oc showed up at the bank and kidnapped Aunt Mae and Spider Man had to save her.

    • @someweirdcatontheinternet8590
      @someweirdcatontheinternet8590 2 года назад +1

      🗿

  • @mudalad1215
    @mudalad1215 2 года назад +2

    Cannonically, MCU cannonically, it was only a web blockage caused by an existential crisis.

  • @AASteve_Plasma
    @AASteve_Plasma 2 года назад +3

    When I was younger, I was also think about this "emotional trauma effect situation" to Peter's power and how he lost his power base on metal health ... Now MattPat detailed it more clear and more scientifical, added with nostalgia and theory :0

  • @abelsm6270
    @abelsm6270 4 года назад +855

    Marvel character: *breathes
    Matpat: WRITE THAT DOWN *WRITE THAT DOWN*

    • @valenciageode25
      @valenciageode25 4 года назад +13

      Yeah, I think he’s gone half-insane

    • @karat617
      @karat617 4 года назад +6

      Water Sheep?

    • @bluedogviking
      @bluedogviking 4 года назад +2

      @@karat617 Well hello fellow 19 year old.

    • @karat617
      @karat617 4 года назад +4

      blåhundvíking FLOOR GANG

    • @bluedogviking
      @bluedogviking 4 года назад +2

      @@karat617 FLOOR GANG were the largest gang.

  • @TainoMoya
    @TainoMoya 5 лет назад +470

    that intro was beautiful. It was what I expected and more.

    • @yukyo3226
      @yukyo3226 5 лет назад

      Tai Moya it was so beautiful that my RUclips decided to crash

    • @t.lanfield1936
      @t.lanfield1936 5 лет назад

      Theory-man! Theory-man!

  • @HeyItsEquin
    @HeyItsEquin 2 года назад +4

    I love how in the beginning instead of putting a real spider, so that people with arachnophobia dont get scared he got lucas instead

  • @rogueguardian
    @rogueguardian 2 года назад +1

    You know I think this explained why spider-man always help me through hard moments in my life, he's literally gone through some of the same stuff I have, losing a family member being disconnected from Friends. I know what that feels like.

  • @solantir3243
    @solantir3243 5 лет назад +376

    The superhero's having their own problems in their life. Just like Stan Lee used to make them. I'm proud.

    • @ProfesserUniverse
      @ProfesserUniverse 5 лет назад +4

      #Excelsior

    • @hadez908
      @hadez908 5 лет назад +2

      Disney sees this comment wait superheroes having their own lives and real life problems :REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @DavidWildmouth
      @DavidWildmouth 5 лет назад

      Superhero problems 🙄

    • @simplebidnessman
      @simplebidnessman 5 лет назад

      Right!

  • @Lightning5717
    @Lightning5717 4 года назад +358

    Hey, MatPat... Speaking of the Green Goblin, can you do a theory on his Goblin Glider? On whether if something like that could exist and work like in the movies/comics?

    • @andrepopcorn4356
      @andrepopcorn4356 4 года назад +11

      Dont they have something like that in France now or something

    • @iarooz2189
      @iarooz2189 4 года назад +7

      @@andrepopcorn4356 Yeah, its a new weapon in their military.

  • @justinarney3050
    @justinarney3050 2 года назад +2

    well if you've read the comics a similar event does happen where Peter doesn't want to be Spiderman anymore and in doing so eventually loses his powers. This comic was made to represent Stan Lee's own troubles of wanting to give up on making comics before he made Spiderman.

  • @leannkennett905
    @leannkennett905 2 года назад +3

    Well in the comics Peter Parker looses his powers off and on for a while when he begins to mutate into the man/spider and Dr Connors has to help him return to his version of “normal”. They certainly could have been setting up for that.

  • @RandomGuy9O9
    @RandomGuy9O9 5 лет назад +381

    I have a good idea for a theory. How much money has Jim from the office spent through the nine seasons on pranking Dwight?

    • @elisabethochoa1125
      @elisabethochoa1125 5 лет назад +16

      Manis Tiwari loveeeeeee thisssss. Literally any office theory is a good theory in my book.

    • @RandomGuy9O9
      @RandomGuy9O9 5 лет назад +7

      Elisabeth Ochoa ya I just watched the office again and seeing all the pranks on Dwight, my inner theorist woke 😁😁

    • @Ravathiel
      @Ravathiel 5 лет назад +14

      the cost of all of Jim's pranks to total a whopping $5,590.95 ]
      so Reddit says

    • @cocopots
      @cocopots 5 лет назад +5

      @@Ravathiel and it was probably worth every penny.

    • @dumbname939
      @dumbname939 5 лет назад +4

      Elisabeth Ochoa I have an Office theory. What is the best printer?
      Ohhhhhhh you mean the show. I get it.

  • @mustafabarry4719
    @mustafabarry4719 5 лет назад +709

    This is 10 years late, but can matpat do a film theory on the movie Coraline?

    • @tay7300
      @tay7300 5 лет назад +9

      I'd agree

    • @didgy8674
      @didgy8674 5 лет назад +4

      I dispiced that movie

    • @SPcamert
      @SPcamert 5 лет назад +8

      If there's one thing I've learned it's that there is no statute of limitations on theories.

    • @ugandanknuckles9355
      @ugandanknuckles9355 5 лет назад +7

      Just watch _The Theorizer_ he's already done it and to a much better extent than mat does from reddit.

    • @rotodexthepaleontologist2267
      @rotodexthepaleontologist2267 5 лет назад +15

      that one dude
      You what now? Dispiced? Took away the spice?

  • @faisalabdurrahman2029
    @faisalabdurrahman2029 2 года назад +4

    in spiderman:no way home, tobey says before the finale battle that he couldn't use his powers because of "existensial dread"

  • @evanbailey5858
    @evanbailey5858 2 года назад +2

    I didn’t see this video when it first came out but I’m glad I can come back with good timing too

  • @redraptorwrites6778
    @redraptorwrites6778 5 лет назад +140

    This was explained in the movie and is pretty straight forward. Spider-Man was ruining Peter's life. He stopped believing in himself and Uncle Ben's lesson of responsibility. Peter was losing himself and the will to go on, therefore causing him to lose his super-human abilities. It isn't until he re-accepts his responsibility by rejecting MJ that he gets them back.

    • @rew1677
      @rew1677 5 лет назад +2

      Yea also in spider man the spider verse.miles has to calm down to stop sticking

    • @ericdxfan511
      @ericdxfan511 5 лет назад +3

      You'll be surprised how much the power loss subplot went over peoples heads.

    • @ccole99
      @ccole99 5 лет назад +1

      Red Raptor Writes my friends and I always look back at that movie realizing that he just couldn’t get it up!!! He lost his ability to keep it up!!! It wasn’t until the woman that you know he’ll do anything for was in danger... He had to realize that he never lost the ability to get it up he just had to realize he still could do it!!!

  • @purplecatloverrandompizza
    @purplecatloverrandompizza 4 года назад +417

    He protec
    He attac
    But most importantly
    He bacc

    • @qqqfuzion2582
      @qqqfuzion2582 4 года назад +5

      Ow my bacc

    • @adrianothegoat
      @adrianothegoat 4 года назад

      Quantum Stop Motions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @benswolo6008
      @benswolo6008 4 года назад +2

      I M BAAAAAAACK! I M BAAAAAACK
      .
      .
      .
      OH my back, my back

    • @pbloop6297
      @pbloop6297 4 года назад

      Is this like a fad or something! I see it everywhere! And know nothing!

    • @kurohebi98
      @kurohebi98 3 года назад

      bacc and promoting mental helth

  • @HasanRaza-wr4tc
    @HasanRaza-wr4tc Год назад +1

    I love how this is told in the new no way home movie when they talk about his web block.

  • @rodrigobenavides9702
    @rodrigobenavides9702 Год назад +1

    the "He Has Memorized Mario's Height" part completly killed me

  • @marcusmacinnis8067
    @marcusmacinnis8067 4 года назад +384

    matpat predicted what's happening to spider-man's "Peter Tingle" 6 months before far from home even came out

    • @i8chocolatecake995
      @i8chocolatecake995 4 года назад +4

      Marcus MacInnis lol lol lol lol lol lol im ded

    • @slovakianpsycho
      @slovakianpsycho 4 года назад +5

      @Nathan Hannon aunt may called it Peter Tingle

    • @logbobtom1234
      @logbobtom1234 4 года назад +2

      Nathan Hannon did you even watch the movie

    • @cinimod1727
      @cinimod1727 4 года назад +4

      I hate that it's called "Peter tingle"

    • @AbruptEcho
      @AbruptEcho 4 года назад +4

      Don’t say peter tingle it’s disrespectful

  • @spider-man3820
    @spider-man3820 4 года назад +367

    2:06 , unsolved for the past 17 years, even though Spider-Man 2 was released in 2004, this video must be from the future.

    • @frostbite6010
      @frostbite6010 4 года назад +44

      He used pizza time

    • @AngelFlipz
      @AngelFlipz 3 года назад +5

      @@frostbite6010 big brain comment

    • @BauttAlt
      @BauttAlt 3 года назад +2

      No the day has past since it was released

    • @Exxioz
      @Exxioz 3 года назад +3

      @@BauttAlt r/woooosh

    • @amlan2483
      @amlan2483 3 года назад +3

      Time travel exists

  • @thegoldmario4879
    @thegoldmario4879 Год назад +1

    I love that you subtitle all your videos :))))

  • @eduardoluna3897
    @eduardoluna3897 Год назад +1

    "GET DUNKED ON ANDREW GARFIELD!"
    had me laughing so hard at the gym I had to stop lifting for a few minutes and everyone looked at me like I was crazy

  • @mumblegrumblejumble1524
    @mumblegrumblejumble1524 3 года назад +231

    I always saw the fact that in the movie Peter loses his powers as a consequence of him rejecting his powers and not wanting to be Spiderman anymore, I never really questioned it, but this gave me a new interesting look on the movie! Really fun theory! I think I'm gonna subscribe!

    • @torennovotny94
      @torennovotny94 2 года назад +2

      HE'LL YEAH MAT PAT NEEDS MORE SUBS HE'S NOT POPULAR ENOUGH

    • @DannyConeHeadOnceLer
      @DannyConeHeadOnceLer Год назад +2

      Exactly! He might be suffering from the pressure and stress from all things he had to go through

  • @sohamk7962
    @sohamk7962 5 лет назад +250

    Peter lost his powers because of pizza time and got them back because of cake and milk. It was very obvious

    • @wade-potato6200
      @wade-potato6200 5 лет назад

      Do doooooooooo Do do do do do do do do do 'do' ·do· .do. .do... 'do' ·do· .do. .do...

    • @Cj-xt6tv
      @Cj-xt6tv 5 лет назад +1

      soham kochikar Best comment ever. 👏🏼

    • @rungaterah1942
      @rungaterah1942 5 лет назад +3

      I used to legit think it was the cake and milk that gave him his powers back.

    • @Cj-xt6tv
      @Cj-xt6tv 5 лет назад +2

      Rungatera H probably not the literal cake and milk but the sentiment that someone gave him cake and milk.

    • @rungaterah1942
      @rungaterah1942 5 лет назад +1

      @@Cj-xt6tv No, I legit thought it was the physical cake and milk.
      But yea the sentiment was present at the time which was really nice. 👍

  • @cookkabunggaming1569
    @cookkabunggaming1569 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thi video just shows u how nice spider man is after everything he’s been through he still makes jokes all the time.

  • @yellowtheexpert5855
    @yellowtheexpert5855 10 месяцев назад +5

    Nah, this guy predicted canon events.

  • @unusualtune8328
    @unusualtune8328 5 лет назад +156

    This movie was the best because of
    Pizza time

  • @dicky6856
    @dicky6856 5 лет назад +123

    Theory Man: Stop right there, criminal!
    Green Goblin: Theory man! I knew you’d come! But you can’t stop me this time!
    Theory Man: I mean, just while we’re here, do you know that Thanos can’t snap with that glove?
    Green Goblin: Well, I didn’t. Thanks?
    Theory Man: Also, you were arrested while I was telling you that.
    Green Goblin: Curse you, Theory Man!

  • @phyantum
    @phyantum 2 года назад +3

    Spoiler Alert- In Spider-Man NWH Tobey somewhat explained it. When Andrew talked about web blocks Tobey explain that this disappearance of his powers was due to an existential crisis

  • @GaPeach87
    @GaPeach87 Год назад +2

    Can we all just talk about how the old Movies are SO GOOD? I personally think we needed more lore to this giant Pizza. Can we get origin Movies for EVERY SUPERHERO?!