Plomb tool started in Los Angeles in 1907 and was one of the largest Tool companies when Snap On was just getting started. The Company changed their name to Proto about 1948. Mac tools is the tool truck version.
That's the old design, it was revised back in 2018 because the screws kept backing out and allowing the pawl to slip and break. New design has screws on the back of the ratchet head, threaded into the faceplate instead of through the faceplate and threaded to the head. I've been using it (Mac Axis) for 4 years without issues. Had the old revision fail twice over the span of 2 years prior to getting the new version.
I've heard with fine tooth it's more important than with low tooth count/ large teeth to make sure the backing plate is solid and tight. The mechanism is likely to angle itself if the backing isn't tight and the small teeth have an easier time of jumping and leaving a wear pattern.
I put a drop of blue loctite on those screws, it definitely helps. I figured that out on my 1/2” flex head Snap On ratchet years ago. Thanks for a great video.
I think 72 tooth ratchet is the best amount of teath, try putting some lubricant on a ratchet more than 100 tooth its no good its like an ice scatting ring with no grip to holt, there is no confidence in pushing it (knuckles gone)👍🏻
Having grown up in the seventies, Stanley was the go too, tool brand in my world. Slowly but surely the quality has declined and declined. Now I refuse to buy anything from the Stanley Black and Decker stable. Proto, Dewalt, Facom, Stanley, they are all trading on a name but made if factories in the far east alongside much cheaper tools. It isn't easy because there are somethings that still look really nice but I know they will disappoint me sooner or later
@@rch5991 I don't doubt that some Proto products are top quality. I live in Europe an SBD own Facom Tools, Frances version of Snap On. Once, everything Facom sold was top quality but slowly SBD started putting the Facom name on things that aren't Facom quality. It is just easier for me to boycott all the companies because I just don't know what is good anymore.
I can't speak to what's going on in Europe, but of the tools that are available here in the states I'd say Stanley Black and Decker offers the most American made tools.
Mr. Garnett if you can find a Proto kit the number is PROTO 3/8 is J38PRK and you can also use a MAC 3/8 is XPRK hope that helps as those ratchets are hard to find kits for.
You're probably right about that radius. I imagine it's a lot easier (cheaper) to mill the head rounded than to get a sharp corner in there. Thanks for the video!
The tolerances seem better in the newer model were the screws go through the head into the plate I have the old style in 1/4 and the 3/8 in the new model even tho different drive sizes I like the 3/8 better...
Here's the lifetime mechanic hot take. He didn't maintain the tool (full of crap and loose screws), therefore it failed. This could have been avoided with about 45 seconds of effort once a month.
Just give proto a call and get a rebuild kit. It may take 6 months with them but they'll get it to ya. That's what really turned me off proto was their warranty.
I don't have the 3/8" drive but I do have the 1/2" drive and had it for two years, I've never had any issues with the anvil and pawl yet, now I'm wondering if the anvil and pawl issue is mainly with just the 3/8" and not so much with the 1/2" ?
I've heard somewhere that these Proto ratchets are very similiar or the same internally as the Mac Axis ratchets. I wonder if you could get a Mac rebuild kit for that?
Of course they just had to discontinue their 3/4" and 1" drive stuff now. Very disappointing. I wanna get one of the 3/4 ratchets but they're so expensive now. They're the highest tooth count 3/4 I've found that's still USA made.
When it absolutely, positively must fly away in an hour I have no faith in any tools but SO! It takes a possible failure mode out of the equation. I own all brands but don't screw around when it really matters. SO is the real deal.
@@upsidedowndog1256 in normal use situations I’ve broken the most SO chrome sockets…and the best chrome sockets I’ve used to this date are the older craftsman USA made sockets . SO makes a hell of a good wrench though 👌🏽
@@TurboTyTy I have the Craftsman EE series never broke any of those. The SO wrenches are not as good as the SK made Craftsman Profesional series, signified by a K mark that is off in left field. Those are the best wrenches I ever seen. I wrench all day, and at night for fun. Been that way since I was 12. 52 now.
@@upsidedowndog1256 now I’m gonna have to go through all my tools and look for the ‘K’ marked ones…the new SK wrenches are junk. Got a few older ones still and they are well made.
It’s a shame because that newer design is a beautiful unit. It just doesn’t have the strongest guts. So maybe worth keeping a spare rebuild kit or two on hand. Then again, how many of us only have one ratchet of any given size? 🤣
That's hilarious when the koken 24 tooth is a total knockoff of the proto 24t ratchets. I do wanna try them though, not a huge fan of the proto 24t although my experience with them is only in 3/4" Drive
Shit the new 72t are still stout. They finally got 72t in the 1/2 drive stuff now, last time I checked it was just the standard 1/2 tho, like regular length handle fixed head
Who's going to "save" you when that Snap-On fails. And it will. I've used Proto for years and have had very good service out of them. Yes I've broke some. There ain't a tool brand out there that doesn't have some tools brake. Even the might Snap-On. That's one reason why they warranty them.
YES, the original including a meme of a presidential figure widely considered controversial, so it had a negative effect on the entire channel as far as the YT algorithm goes so I had to modify and re-up
Plomb tool started in Los Angeles in 1907 and was one of the largest Tool companies when Snap On was just getting started. The Company changed their name to Proto about 1948. Mac tools is the tool truck version.
That's the old design, it was revised back in 2018 because the screws kept backing out and allowing the pawl to slip and break. New design has screws on the back of the ratchet head, threaded into the faceplate instead of through the faceplate and threaded to the head. I've been using it (Mac Axis) for 4 years without issues. Had the old revision fail twice over the span of 2 years prior to getting the new version.
I've heard with fine tooth it's more important than with low tooth count/ large teeth to make sure the backing plate is solid and tight. The mechanism is likely to angle itself if the backing isn't tight and the small teeth have an easier time of jumping and leaving a wear pattern.
I put a drop of blue loctite on those screws, it definitely helps. I figured that out on my 1/2” flex head Snap On ratchet years ago. Thanks for a great video.
I think 72 tooth ratchet is the best amount of teath, try putting some lubricant on a ratchet more than 100 tooth its no good its like an ice scatting ring with no grip to holt, there is no confidence in pushing it (knuckles gone)👍🏻
Having grown up in the seventies, Stanley was the go too, tool brand in my world.
Slowly but surely the quality has declined and declined. Now I refuse to buy anything from the Stanley Black and Decker stable.
Proto, Dewalt, Facom, Stanley, they are all trading on a name but made if factories in the far east alongside much cheaper tools.
It isn't easy because there are somethings that still look really nice but I know they will disappoint me sooner or later
Most of Proto hand tools are made in the USA. I've had very good luck with them.
@@willr6596 That's good to hear but I will still be sticking to my SBD boycott
@@rch5991 I don't doubt that some Proto products are top quality. I live in Europe an SBD own Facom Tools, Frances version of Snap On.
Once, everything Facom sold was top quality but slowly SBD started putting the Facom name on things that aren't Facom quality.
It is just easier for me to boycott all the companies because I just don't know what is good anymore.
I can't speak to what's going on in Europe, but of the tools that are available here in the states I'd say Stanley Black and Decker offers the most American made tools.
@@NP-rh3dt you mean Wright Tools has proportionally less US-made stuff than SB&D? 🙄
Mr. Garnett if you can find a Proto kit the number is PROTO 3/8 is J38PRK and you can also use a MAC 3/8 is XPRK hope that helps as those ratchets are hard to find kits for.
The head was redesigned to eliminate this issue. He should send it in for the new version.
You're probably right about that radius. I imagine it's a lot easier (cheaper) to mill the head rounded than to get a sharp corner in there. Thanks for the video!
Everything Stanley Black and Decker touches, turns to rust.
The tolerances seem better in the newer model were the screws go through the head into the plate I have the old style in 1/4 and the 3/8 in the new model even tho different drive sizes I like the 3/8 better...
This is the most in depth look at a broken ratchet 😆
Here's the lifetime mechanic hot take. He didn't maintain the tool (full of crap and loose screws), therefore it failed.
This could have been avoided with about 45 seconds of effort once a month.
I have my Protos I bought in 1985 and it still works today
Just give proto a call and get a rebuild kit. It may take 6 months with them but they'll get it to ya. That's what really turned me off proto was their warranty.
I don't have the 3/8" drive but I do have the 1/2" drive and had it for two years, I've never had any issues with the anvil and pawl yet, now I'm wondering if the anvil and pawl issue is mainly with just the 3/8" and not so much with the 1/2" ?
I'd say the loose screws caused this.. Snap on re designed there's where the screws come in from the top for this reason
I've heard somewhere that these Proto ratchets are very similiar or the same internally as the Mac Axis ratchets. I wonder if you could get a Mac rebuild kit for that?
They are exactly the same
I'm wondering if this is the problem that caused proto to pull the ratchet from the market for a short period of time but long after they launched it
Ive seen 1/2" models do this lately, weve quit buying them where I work.
I use snap on ratchets 1/4 -1/2 but Proto has the best quality for the price on their 3/4 and 1 in drive tools
Of course they just had to discontinue their 3/4" and 1" drive stuff now. Very disappointing. I wanna get one of the 3/4 ratchets but they're so expensive now. They're the highest tooth count 3/4 I've found that's still USA made.
WoW did not expect that great video Garnett 👍🛠🖐😁🇨🇦
Not the first story I have heard about their ratchets sucking.
What you have there is a fine tooth ratchet failure. Want to borrow my older Proto with only 24 teeth? It still works fine. 😄
When it absolutely, positively must fly away in an hour I have no faith in any tools but SO! It takes a possible failure mode out of the equation. I own all brands but don't screw around when it really matters. SO is the real deal.
Snap Ons break too, they all do…nothing is built to be indestructible.
@@TurboTyTy
That may be so but I have never personally destroyed any SO tools. Tool abuse is a whole different matter.
@@upsidedowndog1256 in normal use situations I’ve broken the most SO chrome sockets…and the best chrome sockets I’ve used to this date are the older craftsman USA made sockets .
SO makes a hell of a good wrench though 👌🏽
@@TurboTyTy
I have the Craftsman EE series never broke any of those. The SO wrenches are not as good as the SK made Craftsman Profesional series, signified by a K mark that is off in left field. Those are the best wrenches I ever seen. I wrench all day, and at night for fun. Been that way since I was 12. 52 now.
@@upsidedowndog1256 now I’m gonna have to go through all my tools and look for the ‘K’ marked ones…the new SK wrenches are junk. Got a few older ones still and they are well made.
Same as the Mac tools ratchet the rebuild for that will work
I remember when you got that Photo ratchet.
Thanks for sharing great video 👍
It’s a shame because that newer design is a beautiful unit. It just doesn’t have the strongest guts. So maybe worth keeping a spare rebuild kit or two on hand. Then again, how many of us only have one ratchet of any given size? 🤣
OK man. Quit playin' and getcha some Koken. I recommend 24 teeth
Is Koken 4749 any good?
That's hilarious when the koken 24 tooth is a total knockoff of the proto 24t ratchets. I do wanna try them though, not a huge fan of the proto 24t although my experience with them is only in 3/4" Drive
It's all about machining@@johnnyolson258
Shit the new 72t are still stout. They finally got 72t in the 1/2 drive stuff now, last time I checked it was just the standard 1/2 tho, like regular length handle fixed head
I had a 1/2 drive fine tooth Blackhawk that just never worked
The Pro didn't "fail". It was "interrupted" ;-) Look at the number on the stalk J5249HTCF see the V1 ? You'll get V2'd .
Doesn't proto have lifetime warranty
Who's going to "save" you when that Snap-On fails. And it will. I've used Proto for years and have had very good service out of them. Yes I've broke some. There ain't a tool brand out there that doesn't have some tools brake. Even the might Snap-On. That's one reason why they warranty them.
Return it to proto. They will honor the warranty
Just get a rebuilt kit
Is this a reupload? I’m having a serious case of deja vu if not
YES, the original including a meme of a presidential figure widely considered controversial, so it had a negative effect on the entire channel as far as the YT algorithm goes so I had to modify and re-up
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