This is a good channel but I'm shaking my head a little on this one. I'm sure Head & Shoulder's research is valid and either builds on or is validated by other peer-reviewed studies, but I would have liked to hear even one sentence from him confirming that. Without discussing the level of scientific consensus, this video reeks of paid promotion. Credibility is easier to lose than it is to gain, just sayin'.
Head and shoulders really doesn't work for dandruff like they claim lol. 72 hours dandruff free? It doesn't do anything for me. What actually works is schampoo containing ketoconazole.
Like many, have had dandruff all my life. Went to a dermatologist for some similar flaking and irritation on parts of my face, and she diagnosed the whole kit n kaboodle as seborrheic dermatitis caused by this yeast, and gave me a prescription strength ketoconazole shampoo to use on my head and skin twice a week. 1 week later, my skin is cleared up, and I haven't seen a flake of dandruff in the last 2 months of using it. Update, 1 Month Later: Stopped using the antifungal shampoo about 3-4 weeks ago, and still haven't seen any recurrence of dandruff. Still keep the shampoo on hand for whenever/if ever it starts to come back.
I have pretty bad dandruff and I get a lot of flaking around my nose too... never thought it was bad enough to go to a dermatologist though. My dad has psoriasis so I could have inherited a skin condition from him.
@@sharul1709 Ah yes. The manager "scientist" at Head and Shoulders put fungicide on hair. Fungus died. Body no longer irritated. Unless you stop using said fungicide on hair. Then everybody walk the dinosaur.
Yeah. I watched the movie "Evolution" couple weeks ago and I just realised that at the end of the movie they were using Head & Shoulders to attack the aliens. lol
There are so many causes, it really depends on each person. Some people just have dry skin and either need to stop washing their head as often or use a moisturizer. Other people have bacteria problems and need medicated shampoos like head&shoulder, a tea tree oil one, or something like sulfate shampoo. There's also very specific medical conditions like psoriasis on the scalp which means it'll never go away, you can only reduce it with medication.
I've had dandruff for as long as I've known. As a kid, my mum used to put Head and Shoulders to try and get rid of it. I used H&S for 2 decades and I'm sorry but it never did anything to reduce the dandruff that I had. Someone introduced me to Neutrogena T-Gel - wow what a difference. While it didnt get rid of it permanently, I could go like a week before it started to show again. So I just had to use it like every 6-8 days to keep it at bay. I still keep using it now and will continue to do so.
Hey, i just wanted to know what kinda of Neutrogena T-Gel are u using cause there is a couple also is it a shampo or pre or a gel could use some help i have tried H&S and just like u nothing, also ur a man right ?
@@Mentat13 yeah. And I bet you're right. If you stop using, it might come back. I have the dandruff problem and noticed the Zinc shampoo and the tea tree oil work after about 2 or 3 uses but then they also stop working if I stop using them. Brand doesn't really matter as long as the same ingredients are in there
I know right, If all adverts were as open and as honest as this with regards to their methods and their goals it would maybe result in some advances in science... Unfortunately the average veritasium viewer is not the average person, so of course shock news and shitty exploitive adverts will always succeed
I'm concerned with head & shoulders approach to curing dandruff. Their solution is to just obliterate the microbiome that exists on your scalp. but I think given all the research we've seen on how a healthy microbiome in the gut can cause dramatic changes in digestion and overall health, it would probably be wise to re-evaluate our thought process towards skincare. What if there's a way to have pro-biotic soaps that select for a type of fungus that doesn't inflame our scalps? I think there is a lot of potential for research in how maintaining a healthy microbial community on your body is a more effective way to stay healthy than to destroy the microbes completely.
I still use Head and Shoulders and still have issues with dandruff if I forget, or ignore using it. I was thinking the same way as you on this issue. Fight smarter than fight harder.
No money in curing as a matter of fact they r making u have dandruff everything that has hair doesn't wash it with products everyday we didnt always either till about 80years ago
A big difference in scalp and the guts it the layer of skin. Skin is a layer of dead cells and to affect the mother skin cells you have to penetrate a bit. In the other hand guts has the mucosa and beneath is the gut and that's it you can damage yourself so easy... well not that easy but with beta adrenergicos and especific drugs that are common. Still I think washing your hair less often it's the better choice than killing all the bacteria cause maybe it will grow stronger like the flu uwu. English it's not my 1st language and it's kinda late. If I sound kinda rude it's not my intention and I'm sorry and let me read what you think about my comment
Do you realize they expose the information in a way that can be misinterpreted and doesn't help that much? They're actually getting your scalp addicted to their shampoo brand.
But they never told you what chemicals they are putting in Head and Shoulders and how those chemicals can damage your skin and cause side effects .... all they said is it will not let those fungus things grow on your scalp, but at what cost? damaging your hair roots and hair...
@@memd777 not to defend an advertisement here but they did mention specific chemicals in the video, just not in what proportion they use, or their side effects.
This doesn't deny the fact that head and shoulders formula exaserbates dandruff and makes you dependant on their product by only temporarily releiving the problem.
@@professorx3060 topical cream and a bandaid isn't a solution to eczema. It's a coping mechanism. Head and shoulders doesn't contribute to solving the problem. It only exaserbates its.
@@DeathmetalPersian head and shoulders doesn’t even work for me. I still have tons of dandruff even after washing it twice a night. It’s not even a bandaid for me lmfao.
@@yesimbigwes I was the same way. I switched to a high moisturizer shampoo and high moisturizer conditioner and that basically cured me. I was told that if that didn't work to try a leave in high moisturizer conditioner too. But I didn't even end up needing it after I switched.
That's exactly what it is. It's fantastic. It gives me information that I can use to do my own real fact checking if I wanna know if its worth it to retain that information. It also gets me thinking about new ideas and concepts that I hadn't considered.
It's still informative. I just checked, and the generic shampoo I use still has zinc pyrithione, which is listed at 6:56 - therefore, it's not like you have to use Head and Shoulders to benefit from the information in the video.
For me head and shoulders made no difference, either good or bad. The only one that works for me is Vichy's Dercos. Too bad it's three times more expensive than the others.
I switched to a selenium/zinc product and that worked amazingly. Now I think I could actually stop buying the stuff since my gene expression has probably changed for good.
I used head & shoulders for 10 years and it really helped me get rid of dandruff. Or so I thought, one day I was told by my hairdresser that the reason I was getting dandruff was because my head was used to head & shoulders. And maybe I didn't actually have dandruff. So I stopped using it and at first the dandruff came back and my head was itching like crazy but after a couple of months, no dandruff and no itching. Now I use quality shampoo recommended by my hairdresser but I use it much less. Only once maybe every 2-3 weeks. My hair is doing great. Feels like these corporations make us addicted to their products. Or at least make you think that you have a problem with your hair while you might not really have one. I think your hair can do fine naturally. At least it worked for me. Try it out 👍
I will give it a try. I am also addicted to head and shoulders. I can't live without it. It's becoming really in expensive in my country. south africa. it basically double in priced recently. I really want to give it up because it's becoming unaffordable
Where do you live? I've been "researching" no shampoo method for months and gave I t a try, but it wasn't functioning because the water in my area is too hard, so I can not wash my hair properly only with water - it does nothing, grease stays on my head, making it look awful
While I appreciate the science behind this video, I wish that you would have included an opposition view point. Such as those who believe that the reason we have the bacteria in the first place is due to the continual stripping of the oils from our scalp. This is essentially a giant ad for a product that may be causing the issue in the first place.
Ive read so much on both viewpoints and my anecdotal conclusion is that life is better with head and shoulders, and theres less dandruff when using head and shoulders. But i also thought this was a just a big ad too
Dunno about other people, but I used to have bad dandruff, even if I used "anti dandruff" shampoo. I stopped washing my hair with shampoo so much (previously every day or so) and BAM, no dandruff. Now I shampoo my hair once every couple weeks, and other times when I have a shower I just scrub my hair with hot water. I get great lift off my hair too from natural oils too.
Oof. I get it worse the longer I don't shampoo. Shampoo every day- bam, perfect scalp, hair is great, etc. But I do use shampoo and conditioner. People seem to skip the conditioner part and complain their hair is excessively dry. No wonder...
@@Olivia-W it takes a couple months getting used to and it gets real itchy in the beginning , but it's worth it, because then you've teached your scalp not to overproduce oils
@@Liquoricilicious About 2 months. Life didn't allow me to go longer. It didn't get better at all. Hair got damaged and skin flaky, especially near the end. My head just feels so much better shampooing/conditioning. I do have particular favorite ones and don't tolerate some very well. Regular ones in shops around here are murder on my hair. I don't use any other hair products, never style it or anything. I think it might depend on hair type? I have really thin, straight, dark blonde hair, and naturally a ball of drippy grease. Conditioner is a must
Hair is what keeps the scalp moist and warm thus making it idle for the bacteria.. if you remove hair it would not be a breeding ground so no bacteria.. no dandruff!!
I went to get my haircut and the barber asked me what kind of shampoo I use. My reply was head and shoulders. He said why do you use head and shoulders and I said because I get dandruff. He said you have no dandruff and you should quit using head and shoulders. I told him the reason I don’t have any dandruff is because I use head and shoulders. 🙄
@@chuck-norris To sell him something else. Common for barbers/hairdressers to sell specialized (very expensive) products here in USA. Don't know if this is done elsewhere.
Show me some petri dishes with regular shampoo in the center. I'm sure there's a whole host of things in all shampoos that bacteria don't like. It's also interesting that when they were showing the gene signatures, the said "after 3 weeks of H&S, you see a difference" what about 3 weeks of treatment with other shampoos? Wording and comparisons are important here.
They don’t have to show different shampoos. The main point of the video is to show why people have dandruff. Of course the video is going to show H&S bragging about their product, but at the same time, they listed out chemicals that help relieve dandruff, so if you want to try out other shampoos that have those ingredients, you are more than welcome to do so.
I used head and shoulders anti dandruff for years and my dandruff was still really bad, I now use a different shampoo given to me by my Dr but this actually does work. I'm sure head and shoulders does work for some people, but for me it didn't at all
It's too generic and too cheap and harsh. It has SLS and SLES, harsh detergents. They destroy your skin barrier, overdry and cause your body to compensate with more oil. So you'll get dandruff if you dont repeat again soon. Too many cleansers in the world are too harsh for most people. Companies are out of control with it.
same. Head and shoulders just made my scalp hurt for a few hours and didnt seem to make any difference. Funnily enough, i have a buzzcut now and its the one time ive noticed a huge difference even with just using normal budget shampoo. Idk why, it must be how my scalps more aired out/easier to clean more intensely or something, but clearly it works
(Just thinking out loud here) it seems to me that the Head and Shoulders solution, while effective, doesn't address the root cause of dandruff which is caused by one's own immune system unnecessarily freaking out at the byproducts caused by Malassezia. If our immune system is primarily driven by our genetics, maybe there could be a gene therapy developed to address this. (Crispr, anyone?) Targeting and/or disrupting the natural Malassezia on the skin could cause other issues by disrupting the balance of skin flora.
@@MmoviesE yes but the permanent solution would cost a consumer a lot of money up front which most people probably can't afford so buying a cheaper temporary solution up front is more accessible to more people although it probably costs more in the long run, similar to leasing a car
That would require a whole ton of research, and probably not fixable with just crispr. Gene therapy is used for single gene defects mostly, but in this case, a whole bunch of genes probably play a role, which would all have to be edited. This is also not possible as you would have to infect every immune cell in the body to give them the cirspr system. The only option to modify the genes in every cell, is to do it in an embryo and then letting it develop to a human so you only have to change one cell. however ethics are not developed in this field so it would never be accepted to do so. TLDR: Not possible
A company making a living with selling stuff to people who "suffer" from dandruff are the wrong people to ask for how to make it go away, in my opinion :)
@Singularity if you cure someone of their dandruff they won't buy your anti-dandruff product ever again thus you lose a customer so you want to make it go away but not forever so they will come back
@Singularity He didn't get it quite right. It's more like this: Corporations that produce anti-dandruff products are incentivized to make it appear as though their products are helping you, while actually exacerbating the problem so that you have an incentive to continue buying the product. For many people proper daily exfoliation is the only thing necessary to get rid of dandruff. Chemicals that dry the scalp and strip away naturally occurring oils only make the problem of dandruff worse in the long run. That's my theory, anyways. I shampoo once or twice a month and my scalp has never been less itchy. But also: different strokes for different folks. I'm not a dermatologist, so take all that with a grain of...uhhh... dandruff?
@Singularity Every source I've found has recommended exfoliation as a solution to dandruff. It's pretty intuitive: Dandruff is dead skin. Exfoliation is the process of using a coarse surface to remove dead skin.
Wow. Normally after a sponsored video based off the sponsor like this, I don't feel inclined to buy their product, but this time, I'm impressed! Learning about the science and research behind this surprises me, I might be inclined to give them a shot!
Personal experience: it works as a great fix for dandruff but I wouldn't reccomend using only their product. It doesnt work amazing as shampoo but it works great as an anti-dandruff
@@mikaelkorpela of course that came into consideration, but even so, showing what they did in this video and how, that's much more effort and clarity put into an ad than is common by far.
Great.. now everybody is going to do this. I think this was an ad first did some "fun" trip to the customer (sponser) and then he found "science" thing to cleverly disguise it with (dino). Did you notice the sponsor said nothing about dinos?
What’s funny is that we can tell you copied one of the second top comment because you also copied the mistake they made where they wrote “160 million years ago” instead of 125 million years ago.
I used Head and shoulders for long while, sadly it never helped, sometimes it caused even more inflammatory actions. What helped was changing food pattern and not using shampoo with micro plastics.
gotta agree with you smackachicken, there is stuff that works and there is stuff to keep it from not happening.. especially when it comes to beardruff..
problem with head n shoulders and similar shampoo is when you stop using it you explode in itchiness and dandruff. Plus the shampoo itself contains sulfates which removes fat from your skin, which could make the problem worse if you already have dry skin.
And your scalp and skin in general has already a fantastic structure that lets it breathe without drying out. Ur basically removing the natural skin barrier too, which will then build up faster and thicker because you're removing it all the time.
I suffered with dandruff and ciriosis on my head for years. Doctors just kept getting me to buy expensive shampoos. Then I read somewhere that humans don't actually need to wash their hair. So I stopped washing with shampoo. Just wash it with water now. It wasnt particularly nice for the first couple of weeks. I'm now about 6 months in, my ciriosis have been cured, I have nearly zero dandruff and have no itching at all. Looks clean doesn't go greasy at all
I have the same, used head and shoulders a lot of years but if I stopped one day then it would come back really bad. Now I just wash it with water and once a week or so with special shampoo, now it's much better ^^
Scalp Psoriasis can also come and go based on humidity and temperature. For example, during the winters in central Nevada the air is very dry and cold. My Psoriasis can really flare up. During the summers my scalp stay more moist because sweat and oils. But your right, just rinsing the dirt out is all you really need to do. Also showering every single day is bad for your skin. Sure shower off if you've been doing lots physical dirty work, but if you work in a job that's not that physical, a simple hand washing and a hot wet cloth in the pits and crotch is all you need.
@@thedorkylab2729 depending on your environment and if you're very physically active. It's going to get greasy since sweat comes out of your head and it will stink. But on normal day, it is fine as is. I have a every-three day shampoo schedule since I live on a tropical area and the humidity does not help with my hair.
I'm not sure how I feel about sponsored advertising like this. If they make it monetarily feasable for creators like Derek to make good, informative and scientifically sound content then I am all for it. And I do trust Derek to be able to present this information in an unbiased way. I do still worry about information being omitted, and I am not a big fan of industry-sponsored science.
But there are ways to confirm science even if it is done for profit... Most advancements in engineering and medicine are done by corporations. Nothing wrong with it as long as there are ways to detect altered/manipulated studies.
Head and shoulders is like acid for my skin. Makes the outbreaks of dandruff way worse and it itches like crazy! Not really a fan of this biased episode but still found it interesting.
Genetics my guy, I can't use normal deodorant. Products like these are made to appeal to as many as possible, so if theirs like a small number who can't benefit, it doesn't matter to them.
Have you tried to stop using shampoo? I haven't used any for, perhaps, four years. And I used to have shoulder long hair as well. Just rinse thoroughly every shower.
@@Mohjive i've tried it for like 1 month. The scalp was feeling much better after 2 weeks but i have alot but thin hair so it looks really faty and dirty. im using shampoo from my drugstore now that works wonders ;)
As much as I like your videos, and I really do, I feel that doing an infomercial for any product compromises your integrity. Especially since it is not impartial in a manner which science should be. So I question the accuracy.
@@DeathmetalPersian agreed. Very sad to see. The sponsor should have nothing to do with the topic of the video. I used to work in an agency where we were paid by clients to get into media outlets as experts like current affairs shows etc.
@@damndoor3570 its an AD. he discloses that this an AD at the beginning of the video. He was PAID money by the people who make this product, to make this video. Stop being so gullible
@@DeathmetalPersian ok so how does him disclosing that it's an AD compromise his integrity? Stop being a lil bitch. Nothing wrong with making some money
Skip6235 same here! Tried so many shampoos but dandruff is still there!! Finally started a shampoo with aloe vera and oling my hair/head with mustard oil)) a slight improvement I noticed)
Dude please stop get away from my recommendation algorithm i clicked i watched an ad you earned money now leave me alone i am bald i dont even have hairs why would i care about dandruff
I just thought the same. i am not a big fan of ads, but I use H&S since I'm a teenager... simply because of those flakes... Never got them anymore. I stopped with H&S twice, got the flakes back after a week ^^ ... But yeah, this in fact wouldn't even need ads xD
Paul Vanukoff its an ad yes, but it’s breaking down the science behind dandruff and dandruff shampoo. At the end of the day i walked away informed and having learned more than if i hadn’t watched this video. And thats all i ask of a Veritasium video
@@Vasses935 It has good content for sure, but for me, good content is diminished when it's mixed with product promotion. When product promotion shows up, I stop the video, click dislike, and move on. This is a glorified ad, and it's one instance of a larger trend. I can't stand advertisement. The more a product is pushed on me, the less likely I am to buy it. Yes I realize this is free for me to watch -- I'm not complaining -- just disagreeing.
Vasses935 you have no idea if it was actually informative. They are a commercial company, they research to make products kind of better but mainly and usually twist the result to sound super positive.
I wish more companies would tell us the science behind their products. Don't simply tell us it works. Show us the underlying mechanisms of how your product works.
The problem with that is that then people will call them liars, or as some say it's "alternative facts". I would personally love to see the science, but I also want it to be an independent source that doesn't care about money at all. That means it has to call bullcrap when it sees it, and has to be Socialized, and people don't seem to trust that. See EPA, FDA, PETA, universities, and many other organizations, companies, and programs. How can you beat humans that naturally don't want authority, yet do want authority telling them what to do?
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” -George Carlin I'm using this quote not to say that people are stupid, but most people are highly specialized in their fields. We know enough about one thing to do it, and much less about everything else. If I'm a particle physicist, I really don't care about Malassezia fungus or specific details about skin pathology. If I'm a truck driver, same applies. I just want a soapy paste to clean my head with.
Frankly speaking, I already had a bad inkling after reading the title and hearing the sponsor name in the first minute. Around 2:07, when he said he visited H&S lab and the blatant repeating of this product names confirmed my suspicions that the rest of the video might sound more like an ads, and it didn't disappoint, or rather, the way this video was presented disappointed me since this ad-style just didn't fit the usual tone and style of Veritasium video.
Would you trust a tobacco company to tell you the science of smoking? H&S job is to sell the most shampoo possible, and I wouldn't be shocked if it's not as straight forward as they make it seem in the video. After all, if the goal is to reduce dandruff, the outcome measured should be the amount of dandruff, not a gene expression that might be related and a fungus we think may be involved but lives on everyone's scalp regardless. Their estimate of 50% of people having dandruff is likely inflated by stretching the definition because the dead skin has to come of at some point. Tobacco companies would also talk about seemingly related facts that work in their favor, like "no throat irritation in those that took their 30 day challenge," and this fungus science sounds like the crafted side discussion that's designed to sell instead of a randomized consumer test that compares no shampoo use to various shampoos with measured amount of daily dandruff along with other factors. Was the active ingredient in the shampoo even mentioned? The product may work and be great, but whenever the facts are coming from a company they need to be approached with skepticism. A company isn't going to spend time and money on research and educating people unless it makes them money back in some way. They'll never sell you a cure for dandruff you take once, but they will sell you a temporary solution you have to use every day.
I used to get dandruff quite regularly, esp. in winter. In the past I've used various anti-dandruff shampoos inc. H&S as well as coal tar shampoo. About 2 yrs ago, I decided as an experiment to stop using shampoo/conditioner and simply wash my hair with warm water and a fine toothed comb. The first month wasn't the best as my sebum levels went a bit crazy, but that all settled and my hair is now neither overly dry or oily nor have I had any dandruff since. Sure, it's a single sample and not something cosmetics companies would want popularised. But, considering shampoo is simply glorified detergent, it's no wonder that it is possibly also responsible for scalp irritation. In my case, I've saved a small fortune while solving my own dandruff issues.
I tried doing the same thing but unfortunately after a couple of months my scalp was just too itchy and I had to go back to using something because it was just unbearable. I stick with coal tar shampoo now as none of those active ingredients seem to be in the Head & Shoulders sold in my country (at least not when I last used it a few years ago), and when I last looked into it, H&S was more about breaking up the dandruff into small pieces so you wouldn't notice it rather than fixing the underlying cause. It's a shame because I would've much preferred to go without shampoo and just wash my hair in water but alas I wasn't able to.
@@asyrafmutalib8898 You don't. Since warm water doesn't remove fat/oil. He is using a fine comb to help with this to a degree, but you would have to wash with a finer than a normal comb for an effective result. So if you have thick hair, you can forget it. Reason being, the fat will remain and cause pimples in your skin which will produce unhealthy irritation and further intensify the issue. I mean, try use the warm water you shower in to remove Fat in a pan from frying. You don't move it out of way. And if you scrub it, it still doesn't disappear. If you use boiling water, it still doesn't disappear. It still remains till you do a full scrubbing with shampoo. Sure, after a month or two, your hair will have its own bacterial stabilization, but that in itself doesn't work since Washing your hair with Chlorine/Chloramine water simply kills it. You would have to use non chlorinated/chloramine water for this procedure. Which doesn't work if you Live in a city on state regulated water. Chloramine water doesn't vanish for over 7 days unless you boil it 12 hours straight. So, you can forget the whole "natural way of cleaning". Since it doesn't work in a modern society unless you want to smell. Smokers probably won't care but people that don't smoke might not want to stick too close for too long. And drenching yourself in perfume doesn't really make it better.
Totally agree ... But there is a downside on this idea... In europe, already a lot of ads are made in a scientific "fashion" , often made up things. A kind of "scientification" , because of credibility... Thats a little bit dangerous - and it can hurt the credibility of science itself - if products which are selled with "scientific sounding ads" dont hold their promises. It would result that people in general dont thrust science anymore - just because companys fucked the credibility of science for profit reasons.
Was talking about shampoo and dandruff like 5 mins ago and this pops up nothing I've ever searched relates to this but proves they listen to conversation
=Head & Shoulders only manages flakes. *Nizoral* is the only shampoo that contains the antifungal that works by preventing the growth of fungus if the fungus is the source of the flakes. Can be life changing.
I know you have to please your sponsors, but I think it would demonstrate more journalistic integrity while simultaneously still promoting the brand if you used the phrase "a shampoo like Head and Shoulders" instead of only using the brand name which might imply to some viewers that their chemistry is unique. Just my two bits. An otherwise entertaining and informative video!
This vid was paid for and only became a vid because of head n shoulders..... I have no issue of getting their monies worth and the exclusiveness of it.
After moving to the US I had a severe case of dandruff and the first thing that helped at the time was Head and shoulders. 6 years later and I still have to use it, and if I stop, my dandruff comes back much worse. After watching your video and reading the comments, I finally decided to QUIT H&S shampoo, so I guess thanks for the blatant, ridiculous ad video!
Same. Every time I use any other anti dandruff shampoo than H&S it comes back though. So I'm kind of stuck with it. Let me know if you find anything else that works.
@@Humanaut. Hi there! So I just decided to quit it cold turkey. I researched a bit of everything out there, no big info or anything, mostly people just commenting what was their experience. I found out getting organic shampoos and applying some oil every other day has worked for many. So, I went after an organic shampoo bar (barely entered those "healthy organic" shops before lol), and got myself some oil based on tea tree essence (don't use the essence raw, but an oil which has it) and other essences. I wash my hair every 2 or 3 days, as before, and apply oil if my head scratches too much. The first week was really bad. Lots of scratching, large patches of dandruff, and red patches. But now I'm nearing my third week and I can actually feel I have a much healthier scalp. And dandruff is nowhere near as bad as it was before! I still have 5 unopened bottles of H&S, but that's just nothing compared to my scalp's and hair's health. Should just throw that stuff down the drain. If you get into this detox, I wish you luck!
@@DanielBacilla Thank you for writing this thorough response. I'll take another shot at it. I am often fine for periods without H&S but then it always came back. It may have something to do with overall immune response / inflammation. I have tried tea tree oil shampoo before but never in such a disciplined regimen like you. I tried some other (non organic/bio) shampoos and they were partially horrible and seemed just like a perfume cloud. Thanks, good luck to you too in the future.
@@Humanaut. Thank you! And the same happened to me. I had previously tried just regular, off-the-shelf shampoos, and they made the situation much worse which made me go back to H&S within a week or less, every time.
I've identified two possible causes for dandruff in my case. It disappeared after A) I started taking creatine or B) I stopped using shampoo that contains sodium laureth sulfate. My best guess is A, but I can't rule out B or of course maybe a third cause.
lol same, I was like there's no way I'm going to buy head and shoulders, i hate that stuff, and then after watching this video, I'm like maybe I should buy head and shoulders.
They probably had a wide variation in warm/cold-bloodedness, it's an enormous group. The "snakes shed their entire skin" is not even an issue, since crocodiles, the other closest living relatives to dinosaurs, also do not shed skin like that, but patches of scales every now and then. They're cold blooded, so the rationale there doesn't make much sense.
@@abrahamchalenges6007 chickens are part of a subgroup of dinosaurs, called "birds" or "aves," the closest (other/non-bird) living relatives to birds and other dinosaurs are crocodilians.
What are you talking about? They had to have heads because that is where the brain is located. And i'm not sure about the shoulders. Poor Trexes barely had hands..
As soon as he said "I'm flying to Cincinnati, to Head and Shoulder headquarters..." I knew I shouldn't expect much of this video. Sugar and flour are the main causes. Shampoo containing Sulfur, Selenium and Zinc is very helpful controlling dandruff.
Yeah, my experience was the same. I thing it's because it dries the scalp very much causing dandruff and negating the effects of killing that bacteria. For those with stronger scalp and hair I heard HS actually helps against dandruff.
I switched to using ORS products years ago after suffering with dry scalp and dandruff since junior high, and my scalp and hair have never been healthier. Cantu shampoos and other more natural brands work too. I use ORS creamy aloe shampoo, and while not sulfate free, it still is excellent. Sometimes ORS black olive products if I can find them as they are sulfate free. I think these active ingredients are kind of pointless if the inactive ingredients dry and irritate your scalp just the same.
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I've been seeing Head & Shoulders ads all my life but this was the most convincing one
Nah. They made some pretty awesome meme ads here in Brazil back in 2010 (I think it was 2010, can't remember), but this one was awesome too
Phlm TA DI BRINQUEICION UITI MI CARA?!
@@lucas8561 "convincing".
have you seen the evolution movie ? the entire film is a h&s ad
Head And Shoulders ads are never convincing.
This has the be the longest Head and Shoulders ad in existence.
But the most educational one
This is a good channel but I'm shaking my head a little on this one. I'm sure Head & Shoulder's research is valid and either builds on or is validated by other peer-reviewed studies, but I would have liked to hear even one sentence from him confirming that. Without discussing the level of scientific consensus, this video reeks of paid promotion. Credibility is easier to lose than it is to gain, just sayin'.
Evolution 2001. From where they get the chemicals to win?
@@RetNemmoc555 nah head and shoulders works for dandruff haha they got their formula down
Head and shoulders really doesn't work for dandruff like they claim lol. 72 hours dandruff free? It doesn't do anything for me. What actually works is schampoo containing ketoconazole.
I just voluntarily watched a nine minute head & shoulders ad.
X2
With a load of authentic/scientific sounding buzzwords thrown in by their marketers.
You've been GNOMED
Ever heard of the movie “Evolution”?
@@PaperWasp100 No
Like many, have had dandruff all my life. Went to a dermatologist for some similar flaking and irritation on parts of my face, and she diagnosed the whole kit n kaboodle as seborrheic dermatitis caused by this yeast, and gave me a prescription strength ketoconazole shampoo to use on my head and skin twice a week. 1 week later, my skin is cleared up, and I haven't seen a flake of dandruff in the last 2 months of using it.
Update, 1 Month Later: Stopped using the antifungal shampoo about 3-4 weeks ago, and still haven't seen any recurrence of dandruff. Still keep the shampoo on hand for whenever/if ever it starts to come back.
damn, i also have dandruff and similar flaking and irritation arroud my nose and other parts of my face. Maybe i should go to a dermatologist
@@jacklope79 Highly recommend it, they'd know best what to do.
@@jacklope79 I have a similar reactions to yours. It's usually around my nose and above my upper lip. Nowhere else.
My dandruff is also bad
I have pretty bad dandruff and I get a lot of flaking around my nose too... never thought it was bad enough to go to a dermatologist though. My dad has psoriasis so I could have inherited a skin condition from him.
@@tsurugizaki flaking and dandruff makes me look like i dont wash, thats why i will go to a dermatologist lol.
I really enjoyed this. I had no idea dinosaurs had dandruff.
Not surprised to see you here! :)
HEY ITS DESTIN
Hey, my nan has a name... she likes old goat.
And now you got smarter
Destin!
When you skip a 15-second video ad to watch a 9-minute video ad.
i hate this world
Atleast this shares some knowledge.........
@@sharul1709 Ah yes. The manager "scientist" at Head and Shoulders put fungicide on hair. Fungus died. Body no longer irritated. Unless you stop using said fungicide on hair. Then everybody walk the dinosaur.
@Fizzickz the whole video seemed like a Head and Shoulders shampoo ad
Best head and shoulders commercial since Evolution!
“It’s on everyones head, as long as you have hair”
Bald people: I’ve won, but at what cost?
Lmao 🤣
Saitama
i'm bald and have dandruff. I'm losing, lol
@@KristopherNoronha oof
@@KristopherNoronha how does that work though?
About another year of me doing 100 push ups, 100 sits ups, 100 squats, and a 10 km run every single day, and I won't have to worry about any of this.
Lmaoo you again!
Have you remembered no ac?
🤣
I understand that reference
For who don't know .. it's Saitama ( one punch man) he's talking about and fyi he got bald after above said routine
This was the longest head and shoulders ad I have ever watched.
Then you should watch the movie "Evolution". lol
@@kuluolsen3279 true. That movie is really shitty and doesn't make any sense. lol
Yeah. I watched the movie "Evolution" couple weeks ago and I just realised that at the end of the movie they were using Head & Shoulders to attack the aliens. lol
and the best one
@@kuluolsen3279 exactly my thought. lol
I’m scratching my head the whole time
Video made me itchy
GachaPugg That is a problem
@GachaPugg same thafs annoying
Me too
@GachaPugg wow
*Clicked* for dandruff......
Video starts with dinosaurs
*Rechecks caption*
Sammmeee!! 😂😂
@@celinaalabbas9281 yep, ditto
Yeah weird transition.
To make it looks more scientific...
Glad im not the only one!!
There are so many causes, it really depends on each person. Some people just have dry skin and either need to stop washing their head as often or use a moisturizer. Other people have bacteria problems and need medicated shampoos like head&shoulder, a tea tree oil one, or something like sulfate shampoo. There's also very specific medical conditions like psoriasis on the scalp which means it'll never go away, you can only reduce it with medication.
When he said "So I put my head in here?" he really missed an opportunity to say "Now, where do I put my shoulders?"
I'll see myself out.
Let me open the door for you.
I’m proud of you son
😂
U r awesome
Go to your room, son.
I tolerated a 9 minutes ad without skipping a second.
That's the brilliance of Veratasium
I tolarated whole "Evolution" movie!
He's sexy, charismatic, innocent...
@@seededsoul do I need to call the police?
Wow. What an educational shampoo commercial.
educational commercial is good commercial.
I want to buy it now.
I've had dandruff for as long as I've known. As a kid, my mum used to put Head and Shoulders to try and get rid of it. I used H&S for 2 decades and I'm sorry but it never did anything to reduce the dandruff that I had. Someone introduced me to Neutrogena T-Gel - wow what a difference. While it didnt get rid of it permanently, I could go like a week before it started to show again. So I just had to use it like every 6-8 days to keep it at bay. I still keep using it now and will continue to do so.
Hey, i just wanted to know what kinda of Neutrogena T-Gel are u using cause there is a couple also is it a shampo or pre or a gel could use some help i have tried H&S and just like u nothing, also ur a man right ?
@@adamf2972 he a homie
Does t gel cause hairloss? Also how did you use it ?
Whoever's idea this type of sponsorship was - good job! Sure beats a shoutout and a link.
Now whould be a great time to do a sequel about Telogen Effluvium and Testosterone Vs Cortisol on hair loss
So it does work, good job head and shoulders, guess I'll use every day now
@@moldoveanu8 yeah well they still didn say if dandruff re appeared if you stop using head n shoulders. it's still mostly a big add with education
@@Mentat13 yeah. And I bet you're right. If you stop using, it might come back. I have the dandruff problem and noticed the Zinc shampoo and the tea tree oil work after about 2 or 3 uses but then they also stop working if I stop using them.
Brand doesn't really matter as long as the same ingredients are in there
Should get a promotion
Wow. This is how commercials are supposed to be made!
I know right, If all adverts were as open and as honest as this with regards to their methods and their goals it would maybe result in some advances in science... Unfortunately the average veritasium viewer is not the average person, so of course shock news and shitty exploitive adverts will always succeed
@@Nickgowans Also, they don't do that, because many products sold on tv are scams and don't actually work.
Well, not everyone has the luxury of time to review products/companies like this
Their advertisement goal is to convince ppl in buying their products. Not to let the ppl know the truth.
old car advertisements are actually 10 minutes long
My head itches now :(
but I'm glad to see that someone else is a fan of those old BBC dinosaur documentaries :) Sinornithosaurus was even venomous!
I thought that clip reminded me of another RUclips channel...
STOP WATCHING THE SAME VIDEOS I DO YOUR EVERYWHERE
another fun fact!
Walking with Dinosaurs was awesome
Should fungus be nerfed?
This is the most in depth head and shoulders ad I’ve ever seen.
Video Title: "What actually causes dandruff?"
*"160 million years ago in China, Dinosaurs walked the earth"*
This is " shocking fact open vedio technique". It is pre-requisite in Essays.
First I thought I came to the wrong video lol
HAHAHAHAHAHAH IDIOT
@@josemarioniichan2359
What?...
god damn it, it always starts in china
Next product: Bread and Shoulders
hahahahahaha
LMFAO
Get out.
@Marc Woolward cheese and toast
I'm concerned with head & shoulders approach to curing dandruff. Their solution is to just obliterate the microbiome that exists on your scalp. but I think given all the research we've seen on how a healthy microbiome in the gut can cause dramatic changes in digestion and overall health, it would probably be wise to re-evaluate our thought process towards skincare. What if there's a way to have pro-biotic soaps that select for a type of fungus that doesn't inflame our scalps? I think there is a lot of potential for research in how maintaining a healthy microbial community on your body is a more effective way to stay healthy than to destroy the microbes completely.
I still use Head and Shoulders and still have issues with dandruff if I forget, or ignore using it.
I was thinking the same way as you on this issue.
Fight smarter than fight harder.
No money in curing as a matter of fact they r making u have dandruff everything that has hair doesn't wash it with products everyday we didnt always either till about 80years ago
This sounds like a great idea
Damn man
A big difference in scalp and the guts it the layer of skin. Skin is a layer of dead cells and to affect the mother skin cells you have to penetrate a bit. In the other hand guts has the mucosa and beneath is the gut and that's it you can damage yourself so easy... well not that easy but with beta adrenergicos and especific drugs that are common.
Still I think washing your hair less often it's the better choice than killing all the bacteria cause maybe it will grow stronger like the flu uwu.
English it's not my 1st language and it's kinda late. If I sound kinda rude it's not my intention and I'm sorry and let me read what you think about my comment
I’ve had this my entire life and never understood it until you broke it down in your video. Thank you.
This is how EVERY ad should be made. Now I know that they are using scientific methods and not some guy randomly mixing scented chemicals..
Do you realize they expose the information in a way that can be misinterpreted and doesn't help that much? They're actually getting your scalp addicted to their shampoo brand.
@@driss3946 is it wrong to be addicted to health?
Agent_Venom OOOOOOHHHHHH
But they never told you what chemicals they are putting in Head and Shoulders and how those chemicals can damage your skin and cause side effects .... all they said is it will not let those fungus things grow on your scalp, but at what cost? damaging your hair roots and hair...
@@memd777 not to defend an advertisement here but they did mention specific chemicals in the video, just not in what proportion they use, or their side effects.
If I'm shedding 500 cells every second why am i still fat?
😂😂😂😂🚶
Your body makes 2 million red blood cells per second, then why are u not getting extremely fat?
*skin cells
Another flat earther
Lmaooo bro honestly what I ask myself every day
Dandruff: Haha we are unstoppable, nothing can beat us!
Bald People:
lol
Dandruff: Nice beard!
bald people can still get dandruff.
@yde guy It doesn’t actually depend on hair, so bald people can still get it.
@yde guy I have been shaving or buzz cutting my hair because of dandruff. Its been 3 months and I still have dandruff. It helps a lot though.
this guy just wont go away from my recomendation
This doesn't deny the fact that head and shoulders formula exaserbates dandruff and makes you dependant on their product by only temporarily releiving the problem.
Preach
Even if it's temporary, it's a solution.
If you ask for a magical cure, you aren't getting it.
@@professorx3060 topical cream and a bandaid isn't a solution to eczema. It's a coping mechanism.
Head and shoulders doesn't contribute to solving the problem. It only exaserbates its.
@@DeathmetalPersian head and shoulders doesn’t even work for me. I still have tons of dandruff even after washing it twice a night. It’s not even a bandaid for me lmfao.
@@yesimbigwes I was the same way. I switched to a high moisturizer shampoo and high moisturizer conditioner and that basically cured me. I was told that if that didn't work to try a leave in high moisturizer conditioner too. But I didn't even end up needing it after I switched.
Ads are getting smarter...and more informative :o
I'm all for them advertising like this.
Or more targeted to a channel's demographic.
That's exactly what it is. It's fantastic. It gives me information that I can use to do my own real fact checking if I wanna know if its worth it to retain that information. It also gets me thinking about new ideas and concepts that I hadn't considered.
This is basically an infomercial, guys. I enjoyed it and I learned things, but just saying it's not a new format.
Not only is it nothing new but it's also most likely omitting very important information
What causes dandruff?
...
15 seconds in: Dinosaurs
😂 yeah right
Atleast it aint aliens.
Don't forget this guy has collabed with Vsauce in the past. So Michael ofc has some influence over Derek ;)
@@randomdude9135 no he doesnt
Lmao
Wait, so no one its going to mention the amazing shot at 4:20 min into the video?. I mean hell man, thats dope af
A 9 minute commercial that I actually wanted to watch. That is brilliant marketing.
Indeed it is. Maybe it will start a trend. Try ruclips.net/video/U3EEmVfbKNs/видео.html.
What a commercial. My Adblock Plus completely failed to block it.
but was informative and educational.
It's still informative. I just checked, and the generic shampoo I use still has zinc pyrithione, which is listed at 6:56 - therefore, it's not like you have to use Head and Shoulders to benefit from the information in the video.
Same. I was almost angry he made this freakin commercial video. Cmon bruh.
Stop using ABP. Switch to uBlock Origin.
Why?
I use 4. ABP, AdBlock, uBlock and Perceptual Ad Highlighter. Works great.
Unless....sponsored crap.
Ads are getting smarter
"Jimmy your not thinking with your head, your thinking with ur...."
*Their Evolving*
Literally
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The best Head and Shoulders ad I have seen till now...
I've used head and shoulders. It made my dandruff worse. I use selsun blue now.
For me head and shoulders made no difference, either good or bad. The only one that works for me is Vichy's Dercos. Too bad it's three times more expensive than the others.
I switched to a selenium/zinc product and that worked amazingly. Now I think I could actually stop buying the stuff since my gene expression has probably changed for good.
I shaved my head that fixed it
I thing that you need to use it a lot more to see results. Like 1 month or something so that the scalp can adjust
@@TheMelopeus You shouldn't assume that I didn't, because I did.
I used head & shoulders for 10 years and it really helped me get rid of dandruff. Or so I thought, one day I was told by my hairdresser that the reason I was getting dandruff was because my head was used to head & shoulders. And maybe I didn't actually have dandruff. So I stopped using it and at first the dandruff came back and my head was itching like crazy but after a couple of months, no dandruff and no itching. Now I use quality shampoo recommended by my hairdresser but I use it much less. Only once maybe every 2-3 weeks. My hair is doing great. Feels like these corporations make us addicted to their products. Or at least make you think that you have a problem with your hair while you might not really have one. I think your hair can do fine naturally. At least it worked for me. Try it out 👍
Thanks for the info
I will give it a try. I am also addicted to head and shoulders. I can't live without it. It's becoming really in expensive in my country. south africa. it basically double in priced recently. I really want to give it up because it's becoming unaffordable
I'll try that then. Do you just shower without shampoo for those 2-3 weeks when?
@@ashtar3876 I think he meant using other shampoo without antifungal compounds purposefully added in though 😅
Where do you live? I've been "researching" no shampoo method for months and gave I t a try, but it wasn't functioning because the water in my area is too hard, so I can not wash my hair properly only with water - it does nothing, grease stays on my head, making it look awful
While I appreciate the science behind this video, I wish that you would have included an opposition view point. Such as those who believe that the reason we have the bacteria in the first place is due to the continual stripping of the oils from our scalp. This is essentially a giant ad for a product that may be causing the issue in the first place.
Thought the same
Ive read so much on both viewpoints and my anecdotal conclusion is that life is better with head and shoulders, and theres less dandruff when using head and shoulders. But i also thought this was a just a big ad too
@@chroniccomplainer3792 So you think H&S is the solution?
@@nasseraltamimi1778 I had used many shampoos to treat dandruff but nothing acted properly. But H&S was way more better.
@@thedoodleguy25 And was there any shampoo that came close to H&S?
Why am i getting this video recomended to me like 15 times a day?
Dunno about other people, but I used to have bad dandruff, even if I used "anti dandruff" shampoo. I stopped washing my hair with shampoo so much (previously every day or so) and BAM, no dandruff. Now I shampoo my hair once every couple weeks, and other times when I have a shower I just scrub my hair with hot water. I get great lift off my hair too from natural oils too.
Oof. I get it worse the longer I don't shampoo. Shampoo every day- bam, perfect scalp, hair is great, etc.
But I do use shampoo and conditioner. People seem to skip the conditioner part and complain their hair is excessively dry. No wonder...
@@Olivia-W it takes a couple months getting used to and it gets real itchy in the beginning , but it's worth it, because then you've teached your scalp not to overproduce oils
@@Liquoricilicious I tried that. No dice. My hair wants to be perpetually greasy.
@@Olivia-W how long did you try? I'm kinda losing hope myself tbh
@@Liquoricilicious About 2 months. Life didn't allow me to go longer. It didn't get better at all. Hair got damaged and skin flaky, especially near the end.
My head just feels so much better shampooing/conditioning. I do have particular favorite ones and don't tolerate some very well. Regular ones in shops around here are murder on my hair. I don't use any other hair products, never style it or anything.
I think it might depend on hair type? I have really thin, straight, dark blonde hair, and naturally a ball of drippy grease. Conditioner is a must
Wow I have a sudden urge to buy head and shoulders shampoo I wonder why
Ya now the placebo will kick in and my head and shoulder will start removing my dandruff.
@Mayank Nade mayank stun nade or frag nade
Head and Shoulders:
*stonks*
@@aaddiis45021 Try conditioner afterwards.
At 4:16 she says "It's on everyone's head, as long as you have hair". So shave your head, and dandruff is cured !
that is a known cure
@TheBala1999
Its a joke ... i guess?
@@zz_01001 unfortunately it isn't, people here do it and it works
@@bassam_salim I had done it but after the hair grew again it came in much more quantity
Hair is what keeps the scalp moist and warm thus making it idle for the bacteria.. if you remove hair it would not be a breeding ground so no bacteria.. no dandruff!!
Literally on my way to buy Head and Shoulders now. Thanks!
0:04 *checks to see if I’m still on the same video*
ikr 😅😅😅
Same!
Me too
Lmao me too
Ikr
I went to get my haircut and the barber asked me what kind of shampoo I use. My reply was head and shoulders. He said why do you use head and shoulders and I said because I get dandruff. He said you have no dandruff and you should quit using head and shoulders. I told him the reason I don’t have any dandruff is because I use head and shoulders. 🙄
@Clorox Bleach I do
You’re a petty ass woman for sure
Clorox Bleach *nice*
But why did he asked you about shampoo if hadn't any dandruff?
@@chuck-norris To sell him something else. Common for barbers/hairdressers to sell specialized (very expensive) products here in USA. Don't know if this is done elsewhere.
Show me some petri dishes with regular shampoo in the center. I'm sure there's a whole host of things in all shampoos that bacteria don't like. It's also interesting that when they were showing the gene signatures, the said "after 3 weeks of H&S, you see a difference" what about 3 weeks of treatment with other shampoos? Wording and comparisons are important here.
It's an ad. What do you expect? I'm definitely pretty disappointed in him for this video.
I had dandruff and used a bunch of different shampoos. Only Head and Shoulders worked. Just get the generic if you don't want to buy Brand name.
They don’t have to show different shampoos. The main point of the video is to show why people have dandruff. Of course the video is going to show H&S bragging about their product, but at the same time, they listed out chemicals that help relieve dandruff, so if you want to try out other shampoos that have those ingredients, you are more than welcome to do so.
@@MrEazyE357 I disagree, I thought it was entertaining
Yeah I mean if they didn't try and sell their product why try? Also H&S is the only shampoo I've found that can help with an itchy scalp.
I used head and shoulders anti dandruff for years and my dandruff was still really bad, I now use a different shampoo given to me by my Dr but this actually does work. I'm sure head and shoulders does work for some people, but for me it didn't at all
It's too generic and too cheap and harsh. It has SLS and SLES, harsh detergents. They destroy your skin barrier, overdry and cause your body to compensate with more oil. So you'll get dandruff if you dont repeat again soon. Too many cleansers in the world are too harsh for most people. Companies are out of control with it.
same. Head and shoulders just made my scalp hurt for a few hours and didnt seem to make any difference.
Funnily enough, i have a buzzcut now and its the one time ive noticed a huge difference even with just using normal budget shampoo. Idk why, it must be how my scalps more aired out/easier to clean more intensely or something, but clearly it works
I’m the Easter bunny
(Just thinking out loud here) it seems to me that the Head and Shoulders solution, while effective, doesn't address the root cause of dandruff which is caused by one's own immune system unnecessarily freaking out at the byproducts caused by Malassezia. If our immune system is primarily driven by our genetics, maybe there could be a gene therapy developed to address this. (Crispr, anyone?) Targeting and/or disrupting the natural Malassezia on the skin could cause other issues by disrupting the balance of skin flora.
Yes there is no money in a permanent solution, their big profits come from people paying for the temporary solution they provide over and over again.
@@MmoviesE yes but the permanent solution would cost a consumer a lot of money up front which most people probably can't afford so buying a cheaper temporary solution up front is more accessible to more people although it probably costs more in the long run, similar to leasing a car
@@FrogChamp64 Not to mention “suffering” from dandruff is not a problem most people would be willing to pay the hefty price to fix.
Yeah crispr, me
That would require a whole ton of research, and probably not fixable with just crispr. Gene therapy is used for single gene defects mostly, but in this case, a whole bunch of genes probably play a role, which would all have to be edited. This is also not possible as you would have to infect every immune cell in the body to give them the cirspr system. The only option to modify the genes in every cell, is to do it in an embryo and then letting it develop to a human so you only have to change one cell. however ethics are not developed in this field so it would never be accepted to do so. TLDR: Not possible
Anybody else think Head & Shoulders needs to make a body wash called Knees & Toes?
This is a beautiful comment.
Then release one later called (knees & toes)
Yesssssssss
Shouldn't it be bum and belly?
I was thinking hips and legs but then knees and toes is good too.
A company making a living with selling stuff to people who "suffer" from dandruff are the wrong people to ask for how to make it go away, in my opinion :)
@Singularity are you slow
@Singularity it does because if it would treat it completely - you won't be able to sell it again
@Singularity if you cure someone of their dandruff they won't buy your anti-dandruff product ever again thus you lose a customer so you want to make it go away but not forever so they will come back
@Singularity He didn't get it quite right. It's more like this: Corporations that produce anti-dandruff products are incentivized to make it appear as though their products are helping you, while actually exacerbating the problem so that you have an incentive to continue buying the product. For many people proper daily exfoliation is the only thing necessary to get rid of dandruff. Chemicals that dry the scalp and strip away naturally occurring oils only make the problem of dandruff worse in the long run. That's my theory, anyways. I shampoo once or twice a month and my scalp has never been less itchy. But also: different strokes for different folks. I'm not a dermatologist, so take all that with a grain of...uhhh... dandruff?
@Singularity Every source I've found has recommended exfoliation as a solution to dandruff. It's pretty intuitive: Dandruff is dead skin. Exfoliation is the process of using a coarse surface to remove dead skin.
Being recommended this feels like a personal attack
Michael Jordan: I took that personal
Wow. Normally after a sponsored video based off the sponsor like this, I don't feel inclined to buy their product, but this time, I'm impressed!
Learning about the science and research behind this surprises me, I might be inclined to give them a shot!
They should communicate more about the science behind products, and not only this company should !
Did you trust the message knowing it was an ad?
Personal experience: it works as a great fix for dandruff but I wouldn't reccomend using only their product. It doesnt work amazing as shampoo but it works great as an anti-dandruff
@@mikaelkorpela of course that came into consideration, but even so, showing what they did in this video and how, that's much more effort and clarity put into an ad than is common by far.
Great.. now everybody is going to do this. I think this was an ad first did some "fun" trip to the customer (sponser) and then he found "science" thing to cleverly disguise it with (dino). Did you notice the sponsor said nothing about dinos?
You know it’s a good day when you get a notification saying “the fungus on your head”
Me liking: 420 likes
Soy sauce, beer, wine and your hairy head are all products of rotting (i.e. fermentation)
The mites in your eyelashes
No, it's a bad hair day.
@@ZomB1986 OMG STOP! This is so disgusting!
Me *“How do I cure dandruff? Let’s watch.”*
The video: *160 million years ago, dinosaurs walked the earth.”*
Me: *Um*
What’s funny is that we can tell you copied one of the second top comment because you also copied the mistake they made where they wrote “160 million years ago” instead of 125 million years ago.
@@immortalsun Haha lmao busted
Who cares ... It's just a comment
Ahaha
I also started to suspect if I misclicked the video and clicked another video instead. lol
Now I want to buy Head & Shoulders. This was the most convincing ad ever.
I used Head and shoulders for long while, sadly it never helped, sometimes it caused even more inflammatory actions. What helped was changing food pattern and not using shampoo with micro plastics.
What did you change in your food etc?
how do you know if there is micro plastics on your shampoo ??
shampoos can only help with symptoms, but the food pattern and life style are much closer to, if not _the_ source of the problem
@@krshna77 Yeah this, business is trying to claim it's always causes by genetics lol... No, dude.
@@ReasonMakes you're a dumbass
Is this one of those videos that's going to make me itchy?
Scratched my head at least several times while watching :)
You are not alone my friend.
Yes
Yes
Yes
Head and Shoulders should be honoured for you to give them this exposure on such an amazing channel like Veritasium.
which is why the probably paid him very handsomely
it doesn't even work this is an elaborate advertisement.
gotta agree with you smackachicken, there is stuff that works and there is stuff to keep it from not happening.. especially when it comes to beardruff..
problem with head n shoulders and similar shampoo is when you stop using it you explode in itchiness and dandruff. Plus the shampoo itself contains sulfates which removes fat from your skin, which could make the problem worse if you already have dry skin.
And your scalp and skin in general has already a fantastic structure that lets it breathe without drying out. Ur basically removing the natural skin barrier too, which will then build up faster and thicker because you're removing it all the time.
Head and Shoulders is VERY happy with this video. VERY happy.
The ad are getting smarter..... And I don't care.
I care.. per XKCD 810.
Lately this channel does have very looong ads indeed
Ads
Southpark reference lol
That intro caught me off guard.... that is the last thing I’d expect to see on Veritasium.
EXACTLY!
Yah what a long ad,,, its really not an episode its just an ad
Not expected, but not bad to see either
yeah it felt like a Vsauce intro
The last thing? Do you even follow this channel? Derek's sexy and he knows it.
I suffered with dandruff and ciriosis on my head for years. Doctors just kept getting me to buy expensive shampoos. Then I read somewhere that humans don't actually need to wash their hair. So I stopped washing with shampoo. Just wash it with water now. It wasnt particularly nice for the first couple of weeks. I'm now about 6 months in, my ciriosis have been cured, I have nearly zero dandruff and have no itching at all. Looks clean doesn't go greasy at all
it's called no poo i'm very sure that you already know that can you tell me what you uside when you wash your hair or you just use warm water ??????
I have the same, used head and shoulders a lot of years but if I stopped one day then it would come back really bad. Now I just wash it with water and once a week or so with special shampoo, now it's much better ^^
Scalp Psoriasis can also come and go based on humidity and temperature. For example, during the winters in central Nevada the air is very dry and cold. My Psoriasis can really flare up. During the summers my scalp stay more moist because sweat and oils. But your right, just rinsing the dirt out is all you really need to do. Also showering every single day is bad for your skin. Sure shower off if you've been doing lots physical dirty work, but if you work in a job that's not that physical, a simple hand washing and a hot wet cloth in the pits and crotch is all you need.
How does it smell though. Or feel
@@thedorkylab2729 depending on your environment and if you're very physically active. It's going to get greasy since sweat comes out of your head and it will stink. But on normal day, it is fine as is. I have a every-three day shampoo schedule since I live on a tropical area and the humidity does not help with my hair.
This guy is awesome !! Hands down best RUclips channel
I'm not sure how I feel about sponsored advertising like this. If they make it monetarily feasable for creators like Derek to make good, informative and scientifically sound content then I am all for it. And I do trust Derek to be able to present this information in an unbiased way. I do still worry about information being omitted, and I am not a big fan of industry-sponsored science.
Yeah that's a fair criticism. I agree with you on that. I wish he brought up more of the limitations to using a shampoo to get rid of dandruff.
@@ashleyashleym2969
Or if he had contrasted Head and Shoulders with other dandruff shampoo preparations.
I mean that's true, but it's not like they're saying they have all the answers - they just talked about one specific problem and solution.
But there are ways to confirm science even if it is done for profit... Most advancements in engineering and medicine are done by corporations. Nothing wrong with it as long as there are ways to detect altered/manipulated studies.
RUclipsrs need to know how to choose sponsors, and i believe Derek is on of those youtubers
Head and shoulders is like acid for my skin. Makes the outbreaks of dandruff way worse and it itches like crazy! Not really a fan of this biased episode but still found it interesting.
Genetics my guy, I can't use normal deodorant. Products like these are made to appeal to as many as possible, so if theirs like a small number who can't benefit, it doesn't matter to them.
Same here.. its makes the itchiness worse.. Pharma industries and this trash company wont earn if we find the cure
Have you tried to stop using shampoo? I haven't used any for, perhaps, four years. And I used to have shoulder long hair as well. Just rinse thoroughly every shower.
@@Mohjive i've tried it for like 1 month. The scalp was feeling much better after 2 weeks but i have alot but thin hair so it looks really faty and dirty. im using shampoo from my drugstore now that works wonders ;)
@@atomicash2475 I stopped using heads and shoulders my dandruff got 10x better
As much as I like your videos, and I really do, I feel that doing an infomercial for any product compromises your integrity. Especially since it is not impartial in a manner which science should be. So I question the accuracy.
100% this. I'm extremely disappointed in his decision to make this propaganda.
@@DeathmetalPersian agreed. Very sad to see. The sponsor should have nothing to do with the topic of the video. I used to work in an agency where we were paid by clients to get into media outlets as experts like current affairs shows etc.
He's not telling you to buy it. Just showing you how it works. And it doesn't even work for everybody
@@damndoor3570 its an AD. he discloses that this an AD at the beginning of the video. He was PAID money by the people who make this product, to make this video.
Stop being so gullible
@@DeathmetalPersian ok so how does him disclosing that it's an AD compromise his integrity? Stop being a lil bitch. Nothing wrong with making some money
Title: What Actually Causes Dandruff?
First 20 seconds: *S I N O R N I T H O S A U R U S*
2:18 I thought he said swapped, I was very confused for a minute there
That's what I heard too
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Same
Same
me too
I've never had any brand of anti-dandruff shampoo work
You might have a severe form of seborrhoeic dermatitis. You should probably have a dermatologist check it out...
Skip6235 same here! Tried so many shampoos but dandruff is still there!! Finally started a shampoo with aloe vera and oling my hair/head with mustard oil)) a slight improvement I noticed)
Same, it even got more severe. I'm still using my lifebuoy.
Lemon juice also worked sometime but I am too lazy ))
just grab some proper beard oil and use it on your hair too.. yes, it actually works.. much like olive oil works.. although that will get stinky..
That got to be the first ad that have ever made me want to buy a product! Probably gonna test out head and shoulders now to see if it works! Good job!
I have been using it for years :P
Dude please stop get away from my recommendation algorithm i clicked i watched an ad you earned money now leave me alone i am bald i dont even have hairs why would i care about dandruff
🤣🤣
Quite possibly the best ad I've ever watched
If other sponsored RUclips were this great, there'd be less ad-hate.
I just thought the same. i am not a big fan of ads, but I use H&S since I'm a teenager... simply because of those flakes... Never got them anymore. I stopped with H&S twice, got the flakes back after a week ^^ ... But yeah, this in fact wouldn't even need ads xD
Disagree. I'd rather see a short ad and a real video than a 9 minute ad masquerading as a video. I hate this trend.
Paul Vanukoff its an ad yes, but it’s breaking down the science behind dandruff and dandruff shampoo. At the end of the day i walked away informed and having learned more than if i hadn’t watched this video. And thats all i ask of a Veritasium video
@@Vasses935 It has good content for sure, but for me, good content is diminished when it's mixed with product promotion. When product promotion shows up, I stop the video, click dislike, and move on. This is a glorified ad, and it's one instance of a larger trend. I can't stand advertisement. The more a product is pushed on me, the less likely I am to buy it. Yes I realize this is free for me to watch -- I'm not complaining -- just disagreeing.
Vasses935 you have no idea if it was actually informative. They are a commercial company, they research to make products kind of better but mainly and usually twist the result to sound super positive.
I wish more companies would tell us the science behind their products. Don't simply tell us it works. Show us the underlying mechanisms of how your product works.
yeah, they will tell you the science but tell only the good side and nothing about long term side effects.
The problem with that is that then people will call them liars, or as some say it's "alternative facts". I would personally love to see the science, but I also want it to be an independent source that doesn't care about money at all. That means it has to call bullcrap when it sees it, and has to be Socialized, and people don't seem to trust that. See EPA, FDA, PETA, universities, and many other organizations, companies, and programs. How can you beat humans that naturally don't want authority, yet do want authority telling them what to do?
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” -George Carlin
I'm using this quote not to say that people are stupid, but most people are highly specialized in their fields.
We know enough about one thing to do it, and much less about everything else.
If I'm a particle physicist, I really don't care about Malassezia fungus or specific details about skin pathology.
If I'm a truck driver, same applies.
I just want a soapy paste to clean my head with.
@@alericjohansen6775 PETA seems a bit of an outlier on that list of there is another organisation called PETA
This is definitely the most entertaining shampoo ad I've ever seen.
6:42 That moment when you realize you've just been watching a nine minute advert for Head and Shoulders.
literally
I realized at 7:05.
Frankly speaking, I already had a bad inkling after reading the title and hearing the sponsor name in the first minute.
Around 2:07, when he said he visited H&S lab and the blatant repeating of this product names confirmed my suspicions that the rest of the video might sound more like an ads, and it didn't disappoint, or rather, the way this video was presented disappointed me since this ad-style just didn't fit the usual tone and style of Veritasium video.
he said it was at the beginning, but ya
0:00
Would you trust a tobacco company to tell you the science of smoking? H&S job is to sell the most shampoo possible, and I wouldn't be shocked if it's not as straight forward as they make it seem in the video. After all, if the goal is to reduce dandruff, the outcome measured should be the amount of dandruff, not a gene expression that might be related and a fungus we think may be involved but lives on everyone's scalp regardless. Their estimate of 50% of people having dandruff is likely inflated by stretching the definition because the dead skin has to come of at some point. Tobacco companies would also talk about seemingly related facts that work in their favor, like "no throat irritation in those that took their 30 day challenge," and this fungus science sounds like the crafted side discussion that's designed to sell instead of a randomized consumer test that compares no shampoo use to various shampoos with measured amount of daily dandruff along with other factors. Was the active ingredient in the shampoo even mentioned? The product may work and be great, but whenever the facts are coming from a company they need to be approached with skepticism. A company isn't going to spend time and money on research and educating people unless it makes them money back in some way. They'll never sell you a cure for dandruff you take once, but they will sell you a temporary solution you have to use every day.
I used to get dandruff quite regularly, esp. in winter. In the past I've used various anti-dandruff shampoos inc. H&S as well as coal tar shampoo. About 2 yrs ago, I decided as an experiment to stop using shampoo/conditioner and simply wash my hair with warm water and a fine toothed comb. The first month wasn't the best as my sebum levels went a bit crazy, but that all settled and my hair is now neither overly dry or oily nor have I had any dandruff since. Sure, it's a single sample and not something cosmetics companies would want popularised. But, considering shampoo is simply glorified detergent, it's no wonder that it is possibly also responsible for scalp irritation. In my case, I've saved a small fortune while solving my own dandruff issues.
I tried doing the same thing but unfortunately after a couple of months my scalp was just too itchy and I had to go back to using something because it was just unbearable. I stick with coal tar shampoo now as none of those active ingredients seem to be in the Head & Shoulders sold in my country (at least not when I last used it a few years ago), and when I last looked into it, H&S was more about breaking up the dandruff into small pieces so you wouldn't notice it rather than fixing the underlying cause.
It's a shame because I would've much preferred to go without shampoo and just wash my hair in water but alas I wasn't able to.
@@crispian67 I've stopped using shampoo for over a year as well but I still have dandruff. Also, how do you keep your hair from smelling?
@@crispian67
Dkdri
@@asyrafmutalib8898 You don't. Since warm water doesn't remove fat/oil. He is using a fine comb to help with this to a degree, but you would have to wash with a finer than a normal comb for an effective result. So if you have thick hair, you can forget it.
Reason being, the fat will remain and cause pimples in your skin which will produce unhealthy irritation and further intensify the issue. I mean, try use the warm water you shower in to remove Fat in a pan from frying. You don't move it out of way. And if you scrub it, it still doesn't disappear. If you use boiling water, it still doesn't disappear. It still remains till you do a full scrubbing with shampoo.
Sure, after a month or two, your hair will have its own bacterial stabilization, but that in itself doesn't work since Washing your hair with Chlorine/Chloramine water simply kills it. You would have to use non chlorinated/chloramine water for this procedure. Which doesn't work if you Live in a city on state regulated water. Chloramine water doesn't vanish for over 7 days unless you boil it 12 hours straight.
So, you can forget the whole "natural way of cleaning". Since it doesn't work in a modern society unless you want to smell. Smokers probably won't care but people that don't smoke might not want to stick too close for too long. And drenching yourself in perfume doesn't really make it better.
Love the intro!
I've seen you somewhere before...
Omg it's you.
..
man i see you every video i watch from tenet's trailer to vertasium videos it's getting creepy man
Good God ur in like almost every RUclips video how much time do u have
Never seen a longer Head & Shoulders ad
Gimme the science behind the product and I'll watch any ad you ever want
Totally agree ... But there is a downside on this idea... In europe, already a lot of ads are made in a scientific "fashion" , often made up things. A kind of "scientification" , because of credibility... Thats a little bit dangerous - and it can hurt the credibility of science itself - if products which are selled with "scientific sounding ads" dont hold their promises. It would result that people in general dont thrust science anymore - just because companys fucked the credibility of science for profit reasons.
Science yes, misleading information being presented as the whole truth: No please.
*It even works **_underwater!_*
" Canyou make bread outta this?"
- Yes. The flakiest croissants ever.
You neglected to mention how many people mistake dry scalp as dandruff
oh yeah, so the results of dandruff and dry are practically the same
@@arkivelikesmilk6046 But yet the treatment is different!
Because it's not an oil ad 😝
@@Rickles very different treating dandruff for dry head will make the fungal more comfy
Was talking about shampoo and dandruff like 5 mins ago and this pops up nothing I've ever searched relates to this but proves they listen to conversation
Me (a German): what the hell is dandruff?
Derek in the first 2 seconds: "this video is sponsored by Head&Shoulders"
Me: Ah, dandruff!
I'm from Sweden and I thought the same, what the hell is dandruff? never heard of it and it sounds dumb
I translated it in german to know if this vid is interesting for me xD
Auf deutsch heißt es schuppen
=Head & Shoulders only manages flakes. *Nizoral* is the only shampoo that contains the antifungal that works by preventing the growth of fungus if the fungus is the source of the flakes. Can be life changing.
@@violetviolet888 Ketozolin is also a good fungicide shampoo
I know you have to please your sponsors, but I think it would demonstrate more journalistic integrity while simultaneously still promoting the brand if you used the phrase "a shampoo like Head and Shoulders" instead of only using the brand name which might imply to some viewers that their chemistry is unique. Just my two bits. An otherwise entertaining and informative video!
This vid was paid for and only became a vid because of head n shoulders..... I have no issue of getting their monies worth and the exclusiveness of it.
Very diplomatically put! But we all know that selenium compounds are innocuous don't we? Irony.
he did say shampoo with either of three mentioned active agents.
After moving to the US I had a severe case of dandruff and the first thing that helped at the time was Head and shoulders. 6 years later and I still have to use it, and if I stop, my dandruff comes back much worse. After watching your video and reading the comments, I finally decided to QUIT H&S shampoo, so I guess thanks for the blatant, ridiculous ad video!
Long term use of dandruff shampoo is very bad for you
Same.
Every time I use any other anti dandruff shampoo than H&S it comes back though.
So I'm kind of stuck with it.
Let me know if you find anything else that works.
@@Humanaut. Hi there! So I just decided to quit it cold turkey.
I researched a bit of everything out there, no big info or anything, mostly people just commenting what was their experience. I found out getting organic shampoos and applying some oil every other day has worked for many.
So, I went after an organic shampoo bar (barely entered those "healthy organic" shops before lol), and got myself some oil based on tea tree essence (don't use the essence raw, but an oil which has it) and other essences. I wash my hair every 2 or 3 days, as before, and apply oil if my head scratches too much.
The first week was really bad. Lots of scratching, large patches of dandruff, and red patches. But now I'm nearing my third week and I can actually feel I have a much healthier scalp. And dandruff is nowhere near as bad as it was before!
I still have 5 unopened bottles of H&S, but that's just nothing compared to my scalp's and hair's health. Should just throw that stuff down the drain.
If you get into this detox, I wish you luck!
@@DanielBacilla Thank you for writing this thorough response.
I'll take another shot at it.
I am often fine for periods without H&S but then it always came back.
It may have something to do with overall immune response / inflammation.
I have tried tea tree oil shampoo before but never in such a disciplined regimen like you.
I tried some other (non organic/bio) shampoos and they were partially horrible and seemed just like a perfume cloud.
Thanks, good luck to you too in the future.
@@Humanaut. Thank you! And the same happened to me. I had previously tried just regular, off-the-shelf shampoos, and they made the situation much worse which made me go back to H&S within a week or less, every time.
I've identified two possible causes for dandruff in my case. It disappeared after A) I started taking creatine or B) I stopped using shampoo that contains sodium laureth sulfate. My best guess is A, but I can't rule out B or of course maybe a third cause.
Creatine? The fitness supplement? I'm curious on how that affects the scalp.
This is probably the best/(most effective) advertisement that I've ever watched, gonna go buy some new shampoo!
lol same, I was like there's no way I'm going to buy head and shoulders, i hate that stuff, and then after watching this video, I'm like maybe I should buy head and shoulders.
Well if you have dandruff then yes, otherwise not needed
The question is will you have worse problems than dandruff cuz of using it
Same here😋
I only now realized I was scratching my head the entire video
can I scratch your head for you, please?
Use head & shoulders.
Dominos Justin y
Woah it's the Domino's guy from Jacksfilms
Clever. Well played.
I don’t know why, but learning the dinosaurs were warm blooded is such a huge revelation for me
They probably had a wide variation in warm/cold-bloodedness, it's an enormous group. The "snakes shed their entire skin" is not even an issue, since crocodiles, the other closest living relatives to dinosaurs, also do not shed skin like that, but patches of scales every now and then. They're cold blooded, so the rationale there doesn't make much sense.
It's big. They used to think dinosaurs must've been slow/stupid because they're cold blooded.
@@petitio_principii chickens are actually the closest relatives to dinosaurs
@@abrahamchalenges6007 chickens are part of a subgroup of dinosaurs, called "birds" or "aves," the closest (other/non-bird) living relatives to birds and other dinosaurs are crocodilians.
Thanks for changing my perception on dandruff and worry about it..
Vsauce: start related to the title and end off-topic
This video: start off-topic and end related to the title
Nah vsauce start off topic and ends off topic
Vsauce goes well with a BS salad
0:01 Michael did it first
Yes indeed
im 100% pro michael. but who cares?
But did he?
*Vsauce music plays
Why do we wear clothes?
Hey Veritasium, Derek here.
Too bad the dinos didn't have Head and shoulders.
Try the new:
Head and shoulders: Dino protection pack.
😅
Guess comment got deleted.
Rephrased: “but what about the legs and arms?”
Original comment was something like this: Rip arms and legs
What are you talking about? They had to have heads because that is where the brain is located. And i'm not sure about the shoulders. Poor Trexes barely had hands..
As soon as he said "I'm flying to Cincinnati, to Head and Shoulder headquarters..." I knew I shouldn't expect much of this video. Sugar and flour are the main causes. Shampoo containing Sulfur, Selenium and Zinc is very helpful controlling dandruff.
Derek: This video is sponsored by head and shoulders. *starts talking about dinosaurs*
Me: This seems weird.
*a few minutes later*
Me: Ooooooh.
I just started using head and shoulders shampoo a week ago and it literally was what it started it and my head won’t stop itching
Yeah, my experience was the same. I thing it's because it dries the scalp very much causing dandruff and negating the effects of killing that bacteria.
For those with stronger scalp and hair I heard HS actually helps against dandruff.
Same. The Dr. Sasquatch soup is the best. I finally found a shampoo that didn’t make my head sting.
I switched to using ORS products years ago after suffering with dry scalp and dandruff since junior high, and my scalp and hair have never been healthier. Cantu shampoos and other more natural brands work too. I use ORS creamy aloe shampoo, and while not sulfate free, it still is excellent. Sometimes ORS black olive products if I can find them as they are sulfate free.
I think these active ingredients are kind of pointless if the inactive ingredients dry and irritate your scalp just the same.
Then you have a dry scalp, and not dandruff. Dry scalps flake too, and they get worse with dandruff shampoo
Use Tea tree oil
I love the editing, the pace and everything is comfortable without being too quick or slow
It's always interesting to see industry research like this!