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Fusion 360 - Auto arrange parts on sheet
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
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The new Arrange feature can be used to nest parts in Fusion 360. In this tutorial, we'll take a look at how to auto-arrange parts on sheet goods, such as plywood.
Arrange serves as an efficient and easy workflow for CNC, Laser Cutters, and other machines that require flat layouts.
This concept is often referred to as "Nesting" or Nest. Speaking of Nest, there's a big announcement in the middle of the video ;)
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Auto arrange parts in Fusion 360
0:54 - Enable the Arrange preview features
2:20 - Creating a manufacturing model
3:34 - Creating the sheet good size
4:09 - Using the Arrange feature
7:35 - Redefining the arrange boundary
9:25 - Manufacturing Model explained
11:10 - Testing the manufacturing model
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Auto arrange parts in Fusion 360
0:54 - Enable the Arrange preview features
2:20 - Creating a manufacturing model
3:34 - Creating the sheet good size
4:09 - Using the Arrange feature
7:35 - Redefining the arrange boundary
9:25 - Manufacturing Model explained
11:10 - Testing the manufacturing model
Would love to see you update this with the manufacturing model feature that is now available in Fusion. Huge props to you for being brave enough to keep creating fusion content at the rate that it keeps being added to and updated!
New version here: ruclips.net/video/PN4bd4rr4z8/видео.html :)
Couldn't agree more! Just about to pull the trigger on his classes.
NEST...... Been asking about this for a while now.
Nest! This is going to be a great improvement to my workflow
NEST - Fantastic update to Fusion 360. I do a lot of test nesting using 3rd party programs after drawing up in CAD and it's a pain. A built in nesting engine will always come out top.
A full-on Nest workspace has been in beta for a while. It will be awesome when its available for 'Preview' for everyone :)
Nest is 1000% game changer for me!!
Nest! This is a fantastic new feature!
Like these features as I do a lot of plasma table work from my designs or use sheet metal layouts
Nest - I cut thousands of parts from the laser cutter every year...been nesting by hand :( This new feature might help :)
Just found that this feature is only available for paid subscriptions. Oh well back to manual
ugh, yea. Sadly, that happened shortly after I did this video. You can use this great add-in as an alternative: ruclips.net/video/BmuxxvIU2XA/видео.html
Direct link to the MapBoards Pro Add-on.... the developer is awesome and responsive!
apps.autodesk.com/FUSION/en/Detail/Index?id=3399489440307590024
Nest! Enjoying this Arrange feature also..thanks for the video.
This is awesome, Nest workspace will be fantastic I hope is stays in the main version so we don't have to purchase the manufacturing extension to use it.
Nest!! Really well explained Kevin! Looking forward to your future tutorials on this subject. Thanks!
This nesting feature is going to be a game challenge for me when I get my cnc put together I was asking people it Facebook cnc groups the best way to mill part in one go instead of one part at a time and didn't really get a good answer but now game changer thanks for this video great work.
nest and workspace are both huge to me. Thanks for the heads up.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
You are so welcome!
Thank you for the very informative video worked with me very well. Can you please advise how can i export my arrangement in DXF format?
Hi Saeed. I would expect that to be more automated soon...but the easiest way to do that now is to create a new sketch and then use the Project command to project all the edges to the current sketch. That makes everything available in one sketch, where you can then export it as a DXF (right-click on sketch in Browser > Save as DXF).
Thanks man, super clear ! Nice rythme
NEST - I've been looking forward to this feature showing up.
Nest... would love this incorporated!!
Nest, thank you so much this will sure up my work flow a tone.
This looks a great feature thanks. Love your videos, very clear and concise
NEST!!! This has save me on average 30 percent on material cost
great add on!
What an amazing tutorial! Huge shout-out to you! Thanks a ton!!
Awesome, haven’t played with it yet. Once nested can a DXF be generated?
Hi Monte, there are two ways to export/output dxf for the arranged results:
1. While in the Edit Manufacturing Model environment, project the boundaries of arranged objects onto a sketch and then export the sketch as a dxf
OR
2. Create a setup and toolpath operation for the arranged objects. Please make sure the sideways compensation is set to "Center" (for 2D Profile) or "Off" (for 2D Contour). Then you can PostProcess the toolpath by selecting one of the available DXF posts from the fusion post library.
In the post dialog, you can set 'onlyCutting' = "YES" to get rid of the linking motion. And you can set 'includeDrill' = "NO" to avoid points at the drilling positions.
To download and install the dxf post on your computer, please visit - "cam.autodesk.com/hsmposts?"
Nest!
Your Amazing, your videos help me out so much with my school work!
This has been released, you can skip the enable crap at the onset, instead, maybe tell hobby license users up front this feature is not available to them
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Unfortunately, that was not decided by the Autodesk team when I recorded this lesson. At the time it was available to all :(
Nest
BUT
Too bad this technique (as you have described in this video ) won't work with the Personal License since the Arrange feature is only available in a paid subscription.
NEST.... Looking forward to the NEST space.. I've been playing with the arrange and having some difficulties when placing parts onto multiple sketches (I have some flat furniture which takes multiple sheets and like to to the CAM set ups next to each other). So far I've still been moving the parts manually to position after arranging them onto a plane.
Are you using the Arrange feature twice (once per each sketch)?
Many Thanks ! Good luck !...
NEST for the win!
This is fantastic, thank you.
Is there an easy way i can use this tool and cut material from a different size stock. Say 6mm mdf so i can make templates and use a router on the production stock?
Thank you so much for your informative and enjoyable videos Kevin. I am a beginner and working on a Plywood stair project and have been following along using the arrange feature to nest and layout the components of my stair on a sheet of plywood. The next step for me is to set up and send the layout to my MultiCam CNC. Do you have a video to help with this? Many thanks, Steve
Great vid as always. Just a heads up, I was looking for this feature and it's now only available to Paid Users.
Nest, for sure!
May have to reset the program (close and reopen) after selecting and applying the preview features - Create Manufacturing Model wasn't an option until I did this.
I tried this but it still isn't showing up for me. Hmmm
@@klm8156 If you haven't found it yet, you have go to the SETUP dropdown (located directly below Milling at the top) and then Create Manufacturing Model. Other thing I found out, it only works on components. So if you have a bunch of bodies under a component, you will only be able to select one body, and it'll move the entire assembly without laying it out So every body needs to be turned into a component, which is kind of a pain.
Nest! Looking so much forward to this! Using it every day in alphacam, and it just kills the program, and feels like a work around. Will fusion nesting reconise different part thikness and vineer direction?
Arrange is a simplified version of the Advanced Nesting functionality which is currently in development. Advanced Nesting will provide the additional control you are looking for, including automatic material and thickness detection, grain direction, rotation/deviation controls, and much more.
Nest.....by the way, great videos !
Please can you do a video on 3D printed tripods that are adjustable and also maybe foldable so you can make it longer and shorter
Arrange feature is even better this year and you can use it from the design workspace if you set a check on the option in preferences. Advanced arrange is getting better every release. #AutodeskEmployee
NEST? Yes!
NEST For sure!!
Nesting, So I have a LVD laser that we cut all of our stainless sheet metal on. What format do I need to use to get it to communicate with my laser?
I was just playing with this on a design I was working on today. Seems something is different with sheet metal flat patterns I can't get them to work. Was anxious to try the "in-process stock" function.
NEST for sure
Nest. Thank You!
I'm not sure if this is still possible using the most up to date software version, on a personal, non-commercial license. I tried looking up nesting in their help menu, it looks like that feature is put under an extension which is of course behind a paywall.
Unless I am missing something obvious, is this still possible? I'd like to use this with my plasma table. Thanks!
Nest, we will use the hell out of this feature. We cut out so many wood parts on our CNC routers, this is huge.
What machine do you have? 😎
@@ProductDesignOnline We've got two Multicam CNC routers with ATCs. A 3000 series and our new Apex R3 with computer vision, drag knife, and oscillating knife.
Nest💪🏼
Finally! Yes... NEST
If this could integrate with the Shaper Origins router, this could be a game changer for woodworkers with big bugets
there is no arrange feature?
I nested the components but how can I actually export the result to a DXF or Sketchup file so I can use the parts information in another software - primarily Aspire or vCarve Pro? I also couldn't print. Do you have a class or link to a project that shows how to export the nested result?
Hi Rob, there are two ways to export/output dxf for the arranged results:
1. While in the Edit Manufacturing Model environment, project the boundaries of arranged objects onto a sketch and then export the sketch as a dxf
OR
2. Create a setup and toolpath operation for the arranged objects. Please make sure the sideways compensation is set to "Center" (for 2D Profile) or "Off" (for 2D Contour). Then you can PostProcess the toolpath by selecting one of the available DXF posts from the fusion post library.
In the post dialog, you can set 'onlyCutting' = "YES" to get rid of the linking motion. And you can set 'includeDrill' = "NO" to avoid points at the drilling positions.
To download and install the dxf post on your computer, please visit - "cam.autodesk.com/hsmposts?"
@@ravijavia8183 thank you for providing a reply. Before I provide my additional request, I want to say that I appreciate the time you already took to tell me there were two method. I will go try and find out information on these methods. But, if you have a few more minutes and are willing to provide a little more help I would appreciate it, even if you don't thank you for what you did provide.
I have to admit that I must not be proficient enough yet to figure out how to accomplish what you gave me instructions to do. I know how to project in the Design Mode but never worked in the manufacturing mode until following this video's guidance. So not sure how to export just the sketch in Edit Manufacturing environment. Links or guidance to any videos or instructions on how to do this would be awesome.
As for method 2 still need to figure out how to setup a toolpath and the things you mentioned. Any links to this information would be helpful so that i could go learn. Thank you again...
@@robsandstrom9854 you're very welcome. Glad to help. Here are some good resources for Fusion 360 in general:
1. Learning Content - academy.autodesk.com/software/fusion-360 (you can find info about other Autodesk products as well)
- Regarding Setup, Toolpath and NC creation - Go to the Intermediate Tab and refer to "43. Setup", "46. 2D Toolpath", and "49. Post NC File". You can also check out "43. 2D Cutting" on Advanced tab.
- Projection of faces onto a sketch works the same way in "Design" and "Edit Manufacturing Model" Environments. I would recommend trying the DXF post method first.
2. Fusion 360 RUclips Channel - ruclips.net/channel/UCiMwMz3RMbW5mbx0iDcRQ2g
3. For specific questions on Arrange functionality, you may post here - forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-feedback-hub/open-call-for-preview-feedback-arrange-feature/td-p/9673457
4. Other questions on Fusion 360 - forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360/ct-p/1234
Hope this helps!
@@ravijavia8183 thank you will check out these resources.
Are you exporting the manufacturing model as a dxf? How are you getting the nested parts to the laser cutter?
There are a few different ways to export. I discuss laser cutter specific ones in this series: ruclips.net/p/PLrZ2zKOtC_-B_HAKUEXhaHyK-2ksfFx2K
It seems that the Arrange functionality is only available in the paid version. Nesting is essential for CNC operation.
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I recommend the MapBoards Pro add-in for those on the Personal Use license. It's a great alternative and works well. I have a video on it here (using the same. demo file for comparison): ruclips.net/video/BmuxxvIU2XA/видео.htmlsi=kDxreTIbbl2ysHDS
Kevin, as always Great Vids.... but still having problems downloading Demo files, The Download Button still seems to be missing when I click on the Demo File Link. I am sure I am not the only one having this recurring problem???
Nesting
Great Video
what I want to do doesnt seem to apply to this. I have a small part I have designed, a single piece. I have a sheet good I want to lay the part out on, filling the sheet up. is there a way it can do that?
This nesting feature may turn out to be a game changer for me. Trying to manually layout parts on cut diagram was so time consuming - this is an awesome edition. I don't use Fusion 360 to generate g-code for my Laguna IQ CNC and the bed s limited to 2'x 3' so will need to determine how I can next to smaller plywood or stock - I think I just do multiple sketches and pick which components I want on each sketch - is this accurate? I also still need to figure out the best way to export my parts into Aspire or vCarve Pro. Great work.
Great Tutorials you have in here!!! for some reason i have no option to the arrange view function, am i missing something?? in the manufacturing menu in the view preferences doesnt show neither..
Hi Marko. Both features are now out of preview and are available. however, it is to my understanding that they are currently only available to the commercial subscribers and not to the free personal use license.
@@ProductDesignOnline Yes it is not available to the free user. I've been looking for the option for an hour wondering if I was doing something wrong. Usually feature available only to the paid version are shown with "sparkles" on top of the logo of the feature but not for this one feature.
Make more videos on gears and automobile parts, please
NEST, thanks Kevin
How do I specify a .5 inch 4x8 foot plywood sheet and set up the routing paths? Another follow-on video would be great.
You will want to set up your routing paths in the Manufacture workspace. I'll will be doing a lot of CAM content later this year :)
Nest! If I have only 1 Sheetmetal part in design can I move to manufacturing space and just type in how many of those items I want to nest and will it generate the multiple part DXF file that can be exported to my laser?
Nest. Is it possible to unroll surfaces here? Like a lofted surface I want unroll to flat material and cut.
Nest for laser cutter
I am on the version 2.0.8412 of Fusion360 (Education License). I assumed the upgrade was automatic. Should I perform any procedure to get the version upgrade in order to use the Arrange feature?
Nesting - loved the video, read all the comments, but still having a question if there is a way to create drawing out of that flat layout without converting any DXF to DWG and useing any 2d soft.
Hi Rainer. You simply need to project all of the desired bodies (Edges) into a single sketch using the "Project" command. You can then right-click on that sketch in the Browser and save as a DXF. Hope that helps! :)
@@ProductDesignOnline Thank you so much for your answer. Ican get the DXF file out of arranged layout. That is fine but what I need for my job is actually a drawing of arranged parts. Just a simple top view with dimensions of details I need to cut in PDF file. The board material we use is cut on the simple table saw and we just need to print out the drawing guide for the people who do the job.
Hello, it`s a perfect feature, however I can`t find the "manufacturing working modul" in my preferences. I have 2.0.9305 version of my Fusion 360.
Hi Maxim. The future is no longer in preview and is now available in the regular Manufacture workspace.
Dont see how to download the model??
It seems the arrange feature is not available in the free version, right?
That is correct, unfortunately Arrange (feature) is not available with the free personal use license.
I tried to Arrange using only bodies. In the dialog box it asks "select objects" and it would only allow 1 body............ I converted all the bodies to components and then it would allow as many components as I wanted to select. For some reason it doesn't work with bodies.
Can someone confirm that this is part of the full version of fusion 360 and not the the nesting extension? I know that nesting extension offers a lot more features but I don't know if I have to purchase the extension for it to work
Arrange is available with the Commercial Fusion 360 *Without* the Nest Extension. Advanced Arrange (confusing, yes, but different from Arrange) is only available with the Nest Extension :)
None of it is included in the free personal use license.
Since Arrange is disabled in the Personal License, what is the best practice currently for Personal users to move the stool's components into a flat stock for Manufacturing?
If you plan on doing it a lot then this addin is worth the 1 time cost: apps.autodesk.com/FUSION/en/Detail/Index?id=3399489440307590024&appLang=en&os=Win64
Otherwise, you can use the Align command or Joints depending on how many parts you have/whether you want to be precise about the placement.
NEST, is there a way to orient the texture mapping along an axis?
Once you arrange everything, can you export as EPS to send out to a cnc shop for them to cut? I don't know which machine they will use, they just asked me to have it arranged inside a specific area with spacing.
Also, once you've arranged can you get a sketch version?
You can save as a DXF file but would have to convert the DXF to EPS in another program. Fusion doesn't work with EPS, as those are vector files.
gracias capo!!!!
I had to do this to get the "Manufacturing model": Preview Features -> Manufacturing Working Model. Restart Fusion.
But I don't have the option for "Arrange Feature" and there is no Modify->Arrange menu item in the Manufacturing model workspace. I have Fusion 360 2.0.9011.
Hi Thomas. Are you on the Personal Use license? I just found out earlier this week that the Arrange feature is currently not available for Personal Use license.
@@ProductDesignOnline Yes I am. That explains why. Thank you.
@@ProductDesignOnline fml :D
today only i got your RUclips wonderful work your doing..
Would this also work if you made a winch en want to 3D print it?
How do you print the arranged parts sheet with dimensions?
Great video Kevin. However, for us mere mortals who don't have CNC machines and have to cut "wood" with saws, is there any way of creating a drawing of the layout? Or do you have to manually place the parts on a separate design and then create a drawing from that? Thanks, keep up the good work :)
Hi Damion. Hoping to do a video on that soon!
Thanks for watching :)
Figured out a way to do it. Very convoluted though. Create a new component in the manufacturing space, start a sketch, project layout onto sketch. Copy the component projections to a new assembly sketch on a new sheet. Extrude projections and create a drawing. Hope it makes sense, I'm a relative newby. Hope your way is easier 😀.
Do you know if there’s any plan to add dog bones to this feature?
how would i design springs and compliant mechanisms in fusion?
I dont have a CNC but this would be nice for cutting my parts from plywood. How can I get dimension on the sheets?
Sry, I'm not following your question. Do you want to transfer dimensions manually onto your plywood? Or looking to layout the dimensions digitally (i.e. 2D Drawing)?
@@ProductDesignOnline Sorry. Say I have a cabinet I have designed and I use the auto arrange tool to arrange it all on a sheet of plywood. I don't have a CNC that will be cutting the material, I will be breaking it down myself. Is there a way for it to auto-generate dimensions on the layout so I can print it out and follow it like a set of plans?
@@rutgis77 thanks for clarifying! Not in the Design workspace, unfortunately. However, the Drawing workspace has a new Automated Drawings feature that can do what you describe (it may not be available on the free Personal use license... I'd have to double check). You can also place the sheet and manually add specific dimensions of you don't want them all for some reason.
Great feature! I think I ran into a snag... when you create a manufacturing model it seems to be a snapshot in time. When I do a bunch of alterations (arrange parts and create tool paths) I notice that the manufacturing models don't update when changes are made in the design model. Did I miss something? I cannot find an "update out of date models" of sorts in the manufacturing environment...!!! Help!
SCRATCH THAT! - - - Another problem solved by a quick Fusion RESTART... also the favorite solution of cable customer service reps around the world!
I have version 2.0.9144 but I don't have the option to turn on "Manufacturing Working Model". has this feature since been removed?
Hi Kyra. It has been taken out of the preview in his officially released now. you should now see it in the create drop down menu while in the manufacturer workspace.
Haha oops. Great thank you!
Nesting, U I am trying to cut multiples of the same 2 D part,, Struggling as this is all new to me
Wait a Minute, i just bought a Plugin for that and it is in for 2 Years now?
Works probably only with a Subscrition right?
Correct. You have to have the Commercial (or EDU/Startup) license to use the Arrange feature.
Is this feature available in Hobby license (Personal) ? I cant update form my 2.0.10940 to 2.0.8749 as You have suggested.
Unfortunately, Arrange is not available on the free license. I recommend using MapBoards Pro add-in as an alternative - ruclips.net/video/BmuxxvIU2XA/видео.html
@@ProductDesignOnline thank you for your answer and many pieces of advice.
I don't see the "Manufacturing Model" at 2:24. What do I do when it's not there?
Which Fusion 360 license are you on?
@@ProductDesignOnline free 30 trial, commercial
Are you using a space mouse?
Kevin let me re define my question, I have a simple 2d part it measures approx 6" x 6" x 1" thick, How can I apply them in multiple times on a stock sheet to cut them out. Thanks
After creating your Manufacture Model you can copy/paste them in the Browser. Just make sure you enable the Manufacture Model preview and go that route as that will ensure you don't affect the original design models in the Design workspace.
The arrange feature doesn't appear to be available anymore
Which license are you on? It's unfortunately not available for free/Personal Use license.
Note: You do not have to enable it in Preview mode as seen in this video. It's included in the latest build.
Kevin, I appreciate your videos! I am really excited about this feature as I do a lot of work on the CNC with plywood. However, I'm having trouble with the arrange window not showing up after clicking the arrange feature. The components have the directional arrow, but there is no window to edit the pieces.. Do you know what I missed? Reasonably, not much yet out there on the web about trouble shooting this feature. Thanks in advance.
Hi Eric. Since the feature is still in "Preview" it is quite possible that it's a bug. The first thing I would do is reset your view, especially if you use Fusion 360 with an external monitor. Under the View drop-down > Reset to Default Layout
@@ProductDesignOnline dude! holy smokes, that worked! Thank you
Also another question Kevin: is it possible to manually arrange/nest components? If not, I am guessing that it might be a feature that could be rolled out when the full operation comes online. Thanks!
@@erickillian8470 You would have to use the Move tool to manually position each component. Otherwise, there is definitely more to come!
NEST please - I wonder if this will be put in the slicer program, or are they incorporating that into the Fusion main program
Good question, Robert! As far as I know, Slicer was deprecated and they haven't done anything to it for over a year. I could definitely see that tech being brought into F360, as many parts of F360 were brought in from other Autodesk tools. :)
I have the latest Personal Fusion 360 license and Arrange appears under Modify but is disabled all though Simplify is not.
If I click on Arrange I get the following message: "Available with a paid Subscription of Fusion 360".
Am I doing something wrong or is this the new reality?
I asked Autodesk the above question and they confirmed the new policy for a Personal license is NO ARRANGE:
"Hi - Yes, that's right. Arrange is a subscription-only capability. Jeff"
So future tutorials for Personal Licenses will be confusing if you continue to add Arrange to your new CAM videos.
Hi Steve. Thanks for sharing this. It's unfortunate - as it was included in the Personal license when I recorded this lesson, but they removed it with the other changes. I wish they would include the basic Arrange and keep the Advanced Arrange and Nest Extension to Commercial users (I'll keep fighting for that anyway).
Nest ;)
I made a quick design of 6 components made into a pyramid for a test and there is no manufacturing model button. Anyone know why? thanks
It's still in preview mode. Did you enable manufacturing models in your preferences under the preview tab?
@@ProductDesignOnline Thank you, Finally got around to doing this. Just a note for anyone else figuring this out. You also have to click on the arrange feature in the preview featrures tab lol.