who copied who... Chopin came after. so... Could this be an indication that Chopin was put through Czerny school of velocity at a young age ? It's quite plausible chronologically it was published when the young Chopin was learning the piano and Liszt of similar age did study under Czerny. Czerny's publications were popular. I don't believe in the fairytale that Chopin was self taught, even though his teacher was a violonist, his mother was a pianist and any of the two could have imposed Czerny on Chopin.
Dude, many, many pieces that Czerny have that are similar to the likes of Chopin and others, were compared after those composers...... In fact, Czerny is known to heavily borrow from other known composers. To say heavily is to put it mildly. Chopin didn't learn anything from Czerny. He might have taken melodies and ideas from composers ñ, just not from Czerny ñ.
I'm left handed and it's awesome that you're visiting great Etudes from not often heard composer. One of my favorite is Clementi's Gradus Ad Parnassum it has some very cool music in there virtually never played. I used to be addicted to wanting to learn the whole book back long ago but was pressed to focus on more widely known usual composers by my teacher at the time.
That’s pity! I believe it’s necessary to give students much freedom in repertoire choice. When we learn something we are obsessed with, the outcome and improvements speed is just on another level.
Nice. I haven’t seen you perform Moszkowski etudes. May I suggest you to make a video on 5-10 etudes that could be beneficial and aren’t that popular? I find Moszkosky op. 92 no 2 & 6 on that category. Which others have a similar difficulty level from other composers and cover other technical aspects of the piano? Thanks for always delivering great content
@@czeynerlamentemusical8048He was known to be a proficient pianist, but could he play all his etude at his marked tempi, if so he would have been a formidable pianist on par with Liszt his student, but that's not the image history left us. So i wonder if his tempi marking must be taken seriously.
@ericastier. I am sorry for my inadequate English. IMO - our children shows us that Czerny was a single beat musician. Here on RUclips we find many videos with kids, some younger than 10 years playing Czerny’s etudes faster than Czerny himself(wimWinters) As you know, Czerny was in his lifetime criticized several times for his interest in the virtuoso. Therefore, small children shouldn’t be able to play faster than a virtuoso.
Holy Spokes that was awesome Denis ! I recently bought this Op. 299 book. You're really taking his tempo marking literally, In my view too fast for musical taste. But since it is an etude i guess the goal is technical.
Hey Denis, this looks insane, but i have better. I transposed Op 10 n1 (Chopin) entirely for the left hand in the key of e minor. The arpeggio runs are mirrored (down first then up) and the right hand plays octaves high up. It sounds awesome maybe better than the original for the right hand. It's the best left hand study i know and i am proud i wrote it (well sort of :D ). Not to confuse with Godowsky, the left hand ranges as many octaves as the right hand in the original and is as difficult. As a left-hander, i memorize it and am more comfortable with it than the original for the right hand. But it would be the opposite for a right handed person for sure.
@@DenZhdanovPianist 😀I am planning to. It's a mirrored transposition, i am not sure i can publish the score with my name added. I'll send it to you, Denis.
i don't find left hand difficult in passages here, i've played Liszt first Etudes and left hand works even more, ijust find a bit difficult the right hands chords to memorize them with the left despite are even simple secondary dominant and mostly domaninat and tonic
no, holding the thumb down is the best way to open articulations in other fingers bc the weight and geometry of the hand get pretty well when thumb is correctly down, thats also why all these composers mostly keep that voice with thumb down. lol
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who copied who... Chopin came after. so... Could this be an indication that Chopin was put through Czerny school of velocity at a young age ? It's quite plausible chronologically it was published when the young Chopin was learning the piano and Liszt of similar age did study under Czerny. Czerny's publications were popular. I don't believe in the fairytale that Chopin was self taught, even though his teacher was a violonist, his mother was a pianist and any of the two could have imposed Czerny on Chopin.
Dude, many, many pieces that Czerny have that are similar to the likes of Chopin and others, were compared after those composers...... In fact, Czerny is known to heavily borrow from other known composers. To say heavily is to put it mildly. Chopin didn't learn anything from Czerny. He might have taken melodies and ideas from composers ñ, just not from Czerny ñ.
Very fine indeed! A treat to hear it played at this tempo.
and this is where i laugh at my right handed friends
I'm left handed and it's awesome that you're visiting great Etudes from not often heard composer. One of my favorite is Clementi's Gradus Ad Parnassum it has some very cool music in there virtually never played. I used to be addicted to wanting to learn the whole book back long ago but was pressed to focus on more widely known usual composers by my teacher at the time.
That’s pity! I believe it’s necessary to give students much freedom in repertoire choice. When we learn something we are obsessed with, the outcome and improvements speed is just on another level.
Brilliant technique makes this look easy.
Well done! I remember playing this one when I was a young student, but nowhere near as fast :D
You the man... Excellent!
¡Tocas muy muy BIEN! ¡Este es maravilloso y hermoso!👏👏👏
Браво!!!
Nice. I haven’t seen you perform Moszkowski etudes. May I suggest you to make a video on 5-10 etudes that could be beneficial and aren’t that popular? I find Moszkosky op. 92 no 2 & 6 on that category. Which others have a similar difficulty level from other composers and cover other technical aspects of the piano?
Thanks for always delivering great content
Amazing one of my favourite pieces 😀😀😀😀
Well done
beautiful
WOOOOW brutal
And feels like wind
Great !!
Amazing performance 👍👏👏
👏👏 fajne, fajne. Z takimi właśnie utworami mi się kojarzysz🙂
Wonderful performance, chapeau!
Awesome❤
Beautiful!!!
I love Czerny.
Bravo!!
Great playing!
is a note missing in the upper voice, in the last 3 bars?
yes
Bravo.
Denis what etudes played in early years, before Chopin and Liszt? Czerny op299 & 740 are good preparatory for Chopin and Liszt transcendantal?
Sure, as well as Moszkowski, Bortkiewicz, Debussy, and Liszt’s other etudes including 12 etudes d’exercise.
@@DenZhdanovPianist Thanks for comments. It helps me to make a correct plan 🥂🥂❤️❤️
there's also some op. 740 pretty difficult studies for the left hand (for example n. 12 and n. 28)
8, 12, 23, 28, 37 and 41! Very hard etudes, i recommend Czerny Op.399 School of the left hand, extremely hard etudes
@@czeynerlamentemusical8048He was known to be a proficient pianist, but could he play all his etude at his marked tempi, if so he would have been a formidable pianist on par with Liszt his student, but that's not the image history left us. So i wonder if his tempi marking must be taken seriously.
@ericastier. I am sorry for my inadequate English. IMO - our children shows us that Czerny was a single beat musician. Here on RUclips we find many videos with kids, some younger than 10 years playing Czerny’s etudes faster than Czerny himself(wimWinters) As you know, Czerny was in his lifetime criticized several times for his interest in the virtuoso. Therefore, small children shouldn’t be able to play faster than a virtuoso.
Holy Spokes that was awesome Denis ! I recently bought this Op. 299 book. You're really taking his tempo marking literally, In my view too fast for musical taste. But since it is an etude i guess the goal is technical.
...Bravo!...
I'm playing op 599 it makes me 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Thats crazy!!
You did justice to Czerny, maybe one day people will stop the slander on his name
Bravooo!!!
Hey Denis, this looks insane, but i have better. I transposed Op 10 n1 (Chopin) entirely for the left hand in the key of e minor. The arpeggio runs are mirrored (down first then up) and the right hand plays octaves high up. It sounds awesome maybe better than the original for the right hand. It's the best left hand study i know and i am proud i wrote it (well sort of :D ).
Not to confuse with Godowsky, the left hand ranges as many octaves as the right hand in the original and is as difficult. As a left-hander, i memorize it and am more comfortable with it than the original for the right hand. But it would be the opposite for a right handed person for sure.
You can make a recording and publish the score then!
@@DenZhdanovPianist 😀I am planning to. It's a mirrored transposition, i am not sure i can publish the score with my name added. I'll send it to you, Denis.
Do you mind doin carl szrny op 299 no 2?
How do you count in these passages?
Wow!!!
How can I get this work? How can I download it?
Imslp.org
That one is so hard 😮
Too difficult for me. Great playing.
It is impressive that your left hand sounds like perpetual engine.
You didn't play the repeated E on top at 1:03. Nice performance though.
i don't find left hand difficult in passages here, i've played Liszt first Etudes and left hand works even more, ijust find a bit difficult the right hands chords to memorize them with the left despite are even simple secondary dominant and mostly domaninat and tonic
teacher gave me this🥲🥲
Holding the thumb down when executing 3-4-5 rapid figures could be injurious to your hand health.
You don’t need to “hold it down”, you can just relax it
no, holding the thumb down is the best way to open articulations in other fingers bc the weight and geometry of the hand get pretty well when thumb is correctly down, thats also why all these composers mostly keep that voice with thumb down. lol
了不得的左手。
I've got tendonitis from watching this.
😅
My left hand hurts just by watching this...
It’s so fast💨
I LOVE CZERNY BUT I HATE THIS GUY.....
HE PLAYED PIANO SO WELLL....
Don't skip repeats
I do.
don't, you ruin the music @@DenZhdanovPianist
Tbh I agree. Skipping repeats usually annoy me also
Human killer)