This is a prime example of Politicians from all sides not giving two figs to what happens to the everyday people! They only care about themselves! Disgraceful!!!
And this is all public money. Just think about how much could have been saved from the public purse if only Vennels, Van Den Bogard and all the other incompetents had simply done their jobs fir which they were extremely well paid.
In fact as Ian Heslop said ages ago, to recommence these Sub Postmasters and Mistressess should each be given £1 million Tax Free, IMMEDIATELY. Which would be a tiny %age of the amount that the post office management has spent to try and block this action. Absolutely Appalling. I like everyone else following this saga, when the SPMs won the court case and with the publicity from the TV drama expected all these people to have been paid out and be able to get on with their lives, but apparently NOT!!!
Shame on everyone connected with the post office and government departments using long winded processes to slow down paying out what is truly due and not lawyers and civil servants who have been instructed to dream up a scheme that never pays
Working out the final compensation payment should be easy. The SPM's come up with a figure. The Post Office come up with a figure. Take the higher of the two, and triple it. Done.
The chairman of this committee really seems on the ball. Maybe, finally these wronged people should be paid their due and the people running the Post office should be in JAIL!!!
Bet they would drop £ claims if they could get PO & Civil Servants / Politicians into court & held legally accountable. Sadly that will never happen all too much corruption & self interest.
Two retired judges, and the party involved (with representation) sit in a room and resolve the claim there and then unless there are major complications. Four hours max to resolve. Easy
Start adding interest on the claim, once these bean counters see that delaying paying up incurs, even more cost , they will wake up and deal with it rather than kicking the can down the road.
Surely a calculation of the actual loss (home, business, money paid to "make good) plus a % for compensation is a simple calculation to use! The PO stole from postmasters and this should be returned with interest.
I believe that if the Post Office settled ALL claims in FULL without delay, thus ending this disgraceful 20-year saga, it would cost them (and ultimately the Taxpayer) a great deal less than paying the unbelievable legal costs associated with disputing every claim. STOP STALLING and PAY UP ... let's have an end to these poor PMs' living nightmare
Ordinary working people pay for everything due to extortionate taxation, And there ends our usefulness and we must realise this doesn’t entitle us to any rights or considerations. In fact we are despised for it and stamped down at every opportunity.
Jeez these poor people being mucked around yet again, PO lawyers need to be sacked & get someone that pays them instead of dragging years of bs just to not pay them the $ they illegally took & compensation & some.
They should prosecute Blair. He knew the system was buggered but just stuck with the post office. He is responsible for all these deaths and health and wealth problems.
Dragging it out hoping that some die before any settlement is reached? These people were all honest people that were vilified, judged as criminals, their names Blackened! Why is it taking so long to do the right thing and compensate these good people? Stop nit picking to avoid doing the right thing! Pay up for the damages caused to these good, honest people!!
It's about time that those in positions in both the MAIL (should nolonger be referred to as ROYAL as they are totally untrustworthy) are taken to task by sacking, fine the Mail PLC a Multimillion pound fine, eash month they delay. Mail PLC and those in key decision-making posts and the IT companies need to be sent to jail. Mail PLC need to be closed
They should take it back to court. The government do not care, it shows they will not reply to Allan. This is typical of them taking their time hoping the respondents all end up unable to take the payments. Justice is not the same in this country anymore, just like to type of politicians we have now are far inferior than 20 years ago plus. The governemnt in the UK will always deny, deny and find a way to not to pay.
They'd rather pay more for the lawyers than compensate the sub-postmasters with their own money, with extra for their suffering. It's absolutely disgraceful.
So after 2000 + days there is still no results. What a waste of time and money talking about what happened, when the people involved still have to explain themselves. Shame on all of you sitting around that table. What was the whole point of it of this investigation. Talk about waste taxpayers money.
Well starmer was the head of CPS and he’s up to his neck in sleaze on this issue. He was actively blocking it at the time. Same as that infamous bbc disc jockey that he did nothing about
This is a prime example of Politicians from all sides not giving two figs to what happens to the everyday people! They only care about themselves! Disgraceful!!!
I bet all the lawyers don't have to wait to be paid.
They do. They dont get paid till the payouts appear.
@@suminshizzles6951 technically thats untrue.
POST OFFICE stop the BS pay these PM's and stop there suffering
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The ridiculous cost of the accountants and lawyers surely outweighs any compensation.
And this is all public money. Just think about how much could have been saved from the public purse if only Vennels, Van Den Bogard and all the other incompetents had simply done their jobs fir which they were extremely well paid.
Heartbreaking!!!
Had it been the boot on the other foot the Directors Etc Etc would have been paid the next day !!!
It's totally wrong if this gentleman has to go back to court after everything
In fact as Ian Heslop said ages ago, to recommence these Sub Postmasters and Mistressess should each be given £1 million Tax Free, IMMEDIATELY. Which would be a tiny %age of the amount that the post office management has spent to try and block this action. Absolutely Appalling. I like everyone else following this saga, when the SPMs won the court case and with the publicity from the TV drama expected all these people to have been paid out and be able to get on with their lives, but apparently NOT!!!
Personally, I don't believe any justice in the real sense of the word will ever result.
Shame on everyone connected with the post office and government departments using long winded processes to slow down paying out what is truly due and not lawyers and civil servants who have been instructed to dream up a scheme that never pays
Money is poor compensation for the poor people involved
This delay is unconscionable. The Gov should step in and pay out in full then claim the money back from the PostOffice
Funny isn't it, how SPM's had to balance every Wednesday - a deadline. Yet the Post Office can't get its own stuff done to a deadline.
Working out the final compensation payment should be easy. The SPM's come up with a figure. The Post Office come up with a figure. Take the higher of the two, and triple it. Done.
Post office have been running rings around the enquiry and now this! They don’t give a duck!
The chairman of this committee really seems on the ball. Maybe, finally these wronged people should be paid their due and the people running the Post office should be in JAIL!!!
It’s pantomime, diberate delays
Bet they would drop £ claims if they could get PO & Civil Servants / Politicians into court & held legally accountable.
Sadly that will never happen all too much corruption & self interest.
Two retired judges, and the party involved (with representation) sit in a room and resolve the claim there and then unless there are major complications.
Four hours max to resolve. Easy
Can we see the accounts cost v compensation.
Start adding interest on the claim, once these bean counters see that delaying paying up incurs, even more cost , they will wake up and deal with it rather than kicking the can down the road.
how do you compensate the dead?
in biblical times, it was an eye for an eye
Surely it must be part of their estate and go to their heirs.
Surely a calculation of the actual loss (home, business, money paid to "make good) plus a % for compensation is a simple calculation to use! The PO stole from postmasters and this should be returned with interest.
With current delays the amount of interest will far exceed the original claims.
Infected Blood victims the same, Feet dragging
Just write the cheques out and be done with it.
Utter disgrace 😢
I believe that if the Post Office settled ALL claims in FULL without delay, thus ending this disgraceful 20-year saga, it would cost them (and ultimately the Taxpayer) a great deal less than paying the unbelievable legal costs associated with disputing every claim.
STOP STALLING and PAY UP ... let's have an end to these poor PMs' living nightmare
Starmer is establishment though and through.
No good asking Comrade Starmer.. Waste of space !
Why is the unfinished point been is what blame blame blame for corruption
Ordinary working people pay for everything due to extortionate taxation, And there ends our usefulness and we must realise this doesn’t entitle us to any rights or considerations.
In fact we are despised for it and stamped down at every opportunity.
Jeez these poor people being mucked around yet again, PO lawyers need to be sacked & get someone that pays them instead of dragging years of bs just to not pay them the $ they illegally took & compensation & some.
Mr Bates has content for at least two more episodes of this debacle!
They should prosecute Blair. He knew the system was buggered but just stuck with the post office.
He is responsible for all these deaths and health and wealth problems.
Alan Bates should knighted by king ……he’s stood up for most
He has a knighthood already
Sue them,
Dragging it out hoping that some die before any settlement is reached? These people were all honest people that were vilified, judged as criminals, their names Blackened! Why is it taking so long to do the right thing and compensate these good people? Stop nit picking to avoid doing the right thing! Pay up for the damages caused to these good, honest people!!
Because they don’t want to pay them at all. Disgusting.
It's about time that those in positions in both the MAIL (should nolonger be referred to as ROYAL as they are totally untrustworthy) are taken to task by sacking, fine the Mail PLC a Multimillion pound fine, eash month they delay. Mail PLC and those in key decision-making posts and the IT companies need to be sent to jail. Mail PLC need to be closed
Starmer not replying to the postmaster!!
They should take it back to court. The government do not care, it shows they will not reply to Allan. This is typical of them taking their time hoping the respondents all end up unable to take the payments. Justice is not the same in this country anymore, just like to type of politicians we have now are far inferior than 20 years ago plus. The governemnt in the UK will always deny, deny and find a way to not to pay.
They'd rather pay more for the lawyers than compensate the sub-postmasters with their own money, with extra for their suffering. It's absolutely disgraceful.
Pay these people up now, stop with the BS.
How many committee hearings does it take to sort this ??
Who are these kids asking stupid questions. Are these people MP’s? They are like Students.
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Starmer about to put the goal posts on wheels
This shouldnt enen be a conversatuon least an issue still. Scheme? What scheme?
So after 2000 + days there is still no results. What a waste of time and money talking about what happened, when the people involved still have to explain themselves.
Shame on all of you sitting around that table.
What was the whole point of it of this investigation.
Talk about waste taxpayers money.
Well starmer was the head of CPS and he’s up to his neck in sleaze on this issue. He was actively blocking it at the time. Same as that infamous bbc disc jockey that he did nothing about