Nice to see it going to good use. Very good video. I like the attention to details. Nothing better than practice. As we all know, or will find out, one too many strokes with the file leads to a short soldier standing in a hole. Nice work my friend... Keep up the educating work... :-)
Very nice setup HelpfulLockPicker ... i love your biting key lol ... when im finish one key i pass the 600 sand paper for great finishing ... cheers :)
Den Brass that sounds like a great suggestion:) I am not perfect at making a pretty key but I can make the very functional. Thank you for the suggestion! I don't think I've ever seen you send out an ugly key, lol.
Nice video and it was great that you shared how to shim it open. That is a useful skill I accidentally picked up recently that is wish I had known about a lot sooner. I use garage sale files and don’t worry about filing one way. I also try to use cheap little jewelry diamond grit files from the craft store. The round ones are awesome and wish I could find a triangle version. 👍
Fast Charlie Thanks for the kind words! I figured I would quickly add in the abbreviated version so someone wouldn't have to click out of the video. I'm glad you though it was a good addition :)
I would like to see you impression the lock without without breaking it open. Also I find using a squareish file to mark the spacing is a good start but round files work best for me. The absolute best file I know of for keys is a Pippin file(tear drop). If never impressed before I suggest a simple waffer filing cabinet(cam lock) lock and you'll be on your way.
Hakz olot the problem is I don't have a key duplicator machine I could ask theboredlockpicker to make one if you wanted to see a demonstration on the machine. If you would like me to just talk about them I could certainly make one :-)
I tried this method, and it has a pretty serious problem. What I've found is that different locks have slightly different pin positions, where the depths will be slightly different. In a properly cut key, it doesn't matter, because the land is totally flat (and the ridges between each land will tend to hold the key in the correct position, no matter what's going on with the shoulder). But in your key, the slightly different depth is going to be enough to get the depth off. You'd think maybe it shouldn't be much, but in my experience, it's a lot. And there's other issues too. Your lands aren't wide enough, so the pin doesn't actually sit properly, and it's actually too deep in the middle. If a different lock has a different pin style, it won't work; and that's going to bite you here if you try to upgrade to more precise key pins. You can fix this by using the same manufacturer's pins in every lock, but that won't solve the previous problem. Even in the same lock, there might be enough slop to have the same problem. When you pull out the key just a little, with the shoulder no longer touching, you might be pretty far off, and the key can jam. Most likely you won't get reliable operation. So I basically think this is not a method anyone should use. Unfortunately I don't have an improvement, but either way, this isn't the right way to do this. The thing I'm going to try next is to only use a square file, never the triangle; and mark the outside of each land (using a 777 key), instead of the middle, so I can see how wide it has to be. By the way, I also tried the Dremel, but it is way too difficult to control precisely though to get those smooth flat cuts, at least with the bits I have on hand. I was hoping an actual locksmith would jump in here with the right method, but I don't see anyone doing that yet.
@iMagUdspEllr well that's the problem.. this method does not yield good cuts. An existing lock cylinder, or even a key gauge, is not a satisfactory guide. I also think a Pippin file, or any round file, is not an appropriate tool for cutting to code like this. Maybe they're good for impressioning, but they're not good for making a reliable key. The way I've gotten to work is using a digital caliper and square file. That lets me cut working keys to code pretty consistently. I also have an idea about how to use a triangular file, but it's a bit more involved to execute.
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This time I will use Woodglut plans for this.
Thanks for sharing
@@HelpfulLockPicker I'm glad you like it brother 👌🤙
Thank you to briarberrycove for sending me this Kwikset to play with. I decided it needed a key and it was fun making a video on the process :)
Nice to see it going to good use. Very good video. I like the attention to details. Nothing better than practice. As we all know, or will find out, one too many strokes with the file leads to a short soldier standing in a hole.
Nice work my friend... Keep up the educating work... :-)
Thank you for kind words and the lock! Filing too far is no good, I always try to frequently keep checking
Very nice setup HelpfulLockPicker ... i love your biting key lol ... when im finish one key i pass the 600 sand paper for great finishing ... cheers :)
Den Brass that sounds like a great suggestion:) I am not perfect at making a pretty key but I can make the very functional. Thank you for the suggestion!
I don't think I've ever seen you send out an ugly key, lol.
love the tray
Nice tutorial. You sound very relaxed on this video ... good job!
Robert Clark thank you for the kind words!
Great video. It would be nice if I see a dimple key impressioning... Not only the foil impression but also an actual dimple key made by hand
Nice video and it was great that you shared how to shim it open. That is a useful skill I accidentally picked up recently that is wish I had known about a lot sooner. I use garage sale files and don’t worry about filing one way. I also try to use cheap little jewelry diamond grit files from the craft store. The round ones are awesome and wish I could find a triangle version. 👍
Fast Charlie Thanks for the kind words!
I figured I would quickly add in the abbreviated version so someone wouldn't have to click out of the video. I'm glad you though it was a good addition :)
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With "Fries", please.
This is pretty cool! You have an awesome skill!
Michelle L thank you for the kind words Michelle :-)
Thank you for this, I have been trying to properly file a key for school. (Locksmith) and I just have been confused.
Thanks for checking it out!
Awesome video. Thank you!
Thank you for checking it out!
A digital caliper looks like a plumber's wrench. What you have is a digital micrometer, which looks like the letter "C".
More great work :-)
Lock Noob thank you for the kind words :-)
That was very cool and informing
Thank you for the kind words!
Hello HelpFulLockpicker do you know if the Lishi Key Cutter is any good for this? Thanks for sharing
I have not personally used one. I have seen someone use a generic knock-off which I believe they ended up liking.
I would like to see you impression the lock without without breaking it open. Also I find using a squareish file to mark the spacing is a good start but round files work best for me. The absolute best file I know of for keys is a Pippin file(tear drop). If never impressed before I suggest a simple waffer filing cabinet(cam lock) lock and you'll be on your way.
I have yet found the time to give this an honest try but bored lock picker is quite good at it
Hi another great video, can you do one on depth keys thanks for sharing 🔒⛏️😁
Hakz olot What would you like to know about them? I could do a video on them
Hakz olot Also, check out this resource on Reddit, it has a lot of info, more so than you may need, lol
www.reddit.com/r/lockpicking/wiki/generalwiki
HelpfulLockPicker yes just like how they work a demastration
HelpfulLockPicker thanks 😊
Hakz olot the problem is I don't have a key duplicator machine I could ask theboredlockpicker to make one if you wanted to see a demonstration on the machine. If you would like me to just talk about them I could certainly make one :-)
I tried this method, and it has a pretty serious problem. What I've found is that different locks have slightly different pin positions, where the depths will be slightly different. In a properly cut key, it doesn't matter, because the land is totally flat (and the ridges between each land will tend to hold the key in the correct position, no matter what's going on with the shoulder).
But in your key, the slightly different depth is going to be enough to get the depth off. You'd think maybe it shouldn't be much, but in my experience, it's a lot.
And there's other issues too. Your lands aren't wide enough, so the pin doesn't actually sit properly, and it's actually too deep in the middle. If a different lock has a different pin style, it won't work; and that's going to bite you here if you try to upgrade to more precise key pins. You can fix this by using the same manufacturer's pins in every lock, but that won't solve the previous problem.
Even in the same lock, there might be enough slop to have the same problem. When you pull out the key just a little, with the shoulder no longer touching, you might be pretty far off, and the key can jam. Most likely you won't get reliable operation.
So I basically think this is not a method anyone should use. Unfortunately I don't have an improvement, but either way, this isn't the right way to do this. The thing I'm going to try next is to only use a square file, never the triangle; and mark the outside of each land (using a 777 key), instead of the middle, so I can see how wide it has to be.
By the way, I also tried the Dremel, but it is way too difficult to control precisely though to get those smooth flat cuts, at least with the bits I have on hand.
I was hoping an actual locksmith would jump in here with the right method, but I don't see anyone doing that yet.
Thanks for sharing
@iMagUdspEllr well that's the problem.. this method does not yield good cuts. An existing lock cylinder, or even a key gauge, is not a satisfactory guide. I also think a Pippin file, or any round file, is not an appropriate tool for cutting to code like this. Maybe they're good for impressioning, but they're not good for making a reliable key.
The way I've gotten to work is using a digital caliper and square file. That lets me cut working keys to code pretty consistently. I also have an idea about how to use a triangular file, but it's a bit more involved to execute.
Don't know where you get one cut for a few dollars but the guy I went to wanted $18.00.
That is normal for a code cut key
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