I attended a logistics seminar by Indian army some days ago. They were talking about the Ukraine war, and they pointed out how terrible the co-ordination between Russian military and railways were. Apparently 10000+ wagons have gone stranded on Russian railways due to the war and the logistics bottleneck. The seminar kinda seemed like using Russia as an example of how not to handle wartime logistics.
Russia logistics is never good you need to understand . India ocean you can ship goods one end to another but in Russia it not possible artic ocean is freeze all time you need to go east to west by crossing Europe, through middle East and India and finally Japan and then east Russia. only railways connect east side to west Russia but 9000 km railways largest in world which is difficult. Russia smallest population and largest land is headache for Russia transport system .usa geological is perfect they can be acces to sea but Russia is not good in sea route .even Soviet never built aircraft carrier not because technology but where can you drive shipso there built submire . Russia transport system is need to develop but is not possible for them
india is not exactly a shining example when it comes to logistics. the state of roads & infrastructure in uttarakand leading up to the northern border is laughable. china must be laughing at how they take years to resolve problems of critical national security imperative
@@Kevin-fq3zh i agreed with Indian logistics is not better but Chinese logistics is better in world there are known to infrastructure projects , railways ,ports,to highways they done great jobs . usa river transport system is cheaper compare china railways but in usa not great in railways every country have unique transport .India population is high so they logistics is not better they need update but railways are expensive it needs large numbers of people to maintain , repair,operate,but limited lifespan china and India railways always need to build , repair ,retrack etc so railways not best for usa
@@Kevin-fq3zh Obviously not. But it has done a lot of improvement in last few years and is continuously improving (the seminar itself was a part of that). Compared to that Russia is woefully inadequate and is destroying itself by doing pointless wars.
Excellent video! Railways have been the backbone of wartime logistics for a long time. Let us remember those who gave everything to keep these systems running, even on the edge of collapse.
Hey R-tard. let me ask you something.... is this a documentary praising the rail system inside a country that is currently at war... a war where people are dying in order to keep their land? a war where logistics makes a difference between life and death a daily struggle? and this documentary describes those logistics systems?
Before war I used to travel from Kharkiv to my hometown using railway. More than 100 kilometers to cross, twice per week. On the way back home I usually engaged myself with a cozy book about travels accompanied with a calm music in the headphones. And sometimes glancing at the window, witnessing endless fields of wheat and sunflowers, with God rays shining in the distance from the clouds roaming above the land. Sure, the wagons were old and loud. Sometimes too small to fit all passengers. The road took me hours to get home, but given the price it was really worth it. Overall, even witnessing only small portion of this state-size machine, I have mostly good memories and special moments about it. And now, after all this began, I started respecting rail workers even more, with just how much pressure they should deal with. And they successfully keep doing it Слава Україні
Героям Слава) Сподіваюся що старі ЕР-9М в Харківській області теж скоро перероблять, як це зробили з "Київ сіті" і вам буде ще приємніше їздити залізницею:)
@@reubensandwich9249 don't really know about any specifics, but definitely can tell that Ukraine now has a strong sail towards EU, step by step integrating and basically upgrading itself on different levels taking EU as an example. Definitely, railway infrastructure is a part of it
@@reubensandwich9249 There were some discussions, but a long-term plan hasn't been laid out. It's more likely that a separate high-speed passenger train line gonna be built in the standard gauge, but cargo lines remain the same for a while. Once sea ports restore to full operability, this should alleviate a lot of pressure. Also, some standard gauge lines gonna be extended inside Ukraine and integrated with the rest of infrastructure. Some other wide-gauge lines are being extended into Poland and Romania. So, it looks like Ukraine gonna have a mix of both standards.
I practically grew up on the Italian railways of the 70s and 80s, having family in two different parts of the country - some of my best memories are of travelling for hours on those clunky old trains, sitting in station bars waiting for my connection, reading novels, doing my homework, eavesdropping on people speaking all sorts of different languages, chatting to strangers (including young guys planning to evade the draft by failing their medical - how weird to think of that now). I felt a little twinge in my heart as I read your comment. The system that this video explains so well feels strangely familiar to me, though Italy has a very different history; the trains look familiar, somehow. One day I will travel all over Ukraine on those trains, I'm learning the language specially so I don't have to do that anglophone thing of expecting everyone to speak my language (also it's a beautiful language). May your commute be restored to you, along with the rest of your life and country. Героям Слава! Україна переможе 💙💛
Thanks so much guys for this super informative upload! Major rail geek here, yet I learned a ton. And as a resident of one of the most Ukrainian cities outside of Ukraine (Winnipeg), and the son and grandson of lifer railroad men, I nearly cried with your tribute to the railway workers of Ukraine at the end of the episode. Slava Ukraini!!
why in the mother of God are you praising a youtube channel for describing the logistics system of a country... that is at war, and the logistics system is one of the biggest struggles in this war considering the 1,000 mile long war front?
@@davidanalyst671 What the hell are you whinging about, your post doesn't even make grammatical sense. Wrap up! Analyst of what, you can't even write a correct sentence?
We are very thankful to and proud of Ukrzaliznytsa. I myself evacuated via their evacuation train, and returned home on one. Brave women and men serving their country 💙💛
One interesting point about Ukraine railways: they were designed for a population of 50+ million with heavy industry in mind. Recently Ukrainian economy has been transforming a lot, quite some people left the country, including women and children in wartime, and there was some blockage of metal and agriculture exports due unavailability of ports. This means, Ukraine had some room in terms of railroad capacity, and, as stated in video, has become more effective than ever before. This was definitely a game changer, compared to Russian logistic hell and bad army-railroad coordination.
My relatives were evacuated from Kyiv by train. That journey was not about the comfort but rather about being able to evacuate, and even then the UZ tried to do it's best to make it comfortable. The return journey was more relaxed and also went with no issues. So, lots of kudos to the UZ for the tremendous job they are doing.
Слава всім залізничникам за самовідданість, працьовитість, службу та добрі бої. Це робота, яка з’єднує серця. З дружбою з Японії. 鉄道従事者の皆さんの献身と努力、奉仕と健闘に称賛を。心をつなぐ仕事です。日本から友情を込めて。
interesting that multiple people who know both a cyrillic language (unsure if ukrainian or russian) and Japanese have come together in these comments! ♥
Shower thought I was having recently: I wonder if, after this war ends, if it might be worth it for Ukraine to re-gauge their railways to standard gauge, to have interoperability with the rest of Europe. It would be a huge investment, but there's probably going to be a lot of rebuilding needed for practically all infrastructure in Ukraine anyways, so would it not be worth standardizing with the rest of the continent while they're at it?
They already talked about, like months ago there were several articles on this topic published where they talk about other issues like different loading gauges in Europe or low axle loads on standard gauge lines that today exist in Ukraine. Specifically they have mentioned that while in Ukraine they use around 23.5 t per axle, those line are build for less than 20 t per axle, which is problematic and on lower end of axle loads used in Europe. (Main lines in Czechia use 22.5 t per axle) Another problem is different coupling used in Europe (still mostly buffers and chains) and in Ukraine SA-3. But there is project for DAC (digital auto coupler) based on Scharfenberg coupler, so maybe Ukraine could change that as well. The problem is that companies in Europe are bit reluctant to implement it as it is expensive and must be done quickly to prevent various issues. So i guess that there will be some transition period with just "dumb" couplers.
Not just for European interoperability but to hinder military logistics for Russia should it ever think of invading again. (Spain adopted a different gauge to France for defence reasons.)
Well I as a Ukrainian think 100% percent it is worth it, but the hard part will be finding the money to do so once the war is over and we have our territories back. Maybe one by one start to replace the major lines like Hungary to Zakarpattia or Poland to Lviv.
@@yuriydee "...finding the money to do so..." One word - *Russia*. They MUST pay for it as part of reparations for the war. I don't care if reparations bankrupt Russia for the next 100 years. They MUST pay for the evil that they have unleashed on Ukraine.
I'have travelled several times to Ukraine around 2000, and yes, the rolling stock was really old, but was functional. Trains were very slow but this is comparable to what they have in the US today ahahah. I liked very much the host at each car, with free tea from the samovar, the sleeping coaches were very spatious and the bathroom from the 50's was really big. Some of the cars had wooden window frames. ! But all the axel gearboxes were painted in white so you can see they are in perfect confitions. The tracks were very bad on the vertical with humps and everything. But the suspension was very smooth so that was standable. Rolling was smooth like british coaches. I really appreciate.
I'm surprised by your surprise over how much of Ukraine's cargo transport is carried by rail. In the US and Canada, under 50% is a low number; it's the massive profitability of cargo that's kept North American railways in private hands. Over a large country with minimal coastline like Ukraine, that's entirely appropriate.
true but in europe it works a bit differently than accross the atlantic. for one, passenger services have priority over goods trains, hence unlike the US we have decent public transport
Soldiers win battles, but logistics win wars. Both Russia and other former Soviet states have relied heavily on rail to mobilise and arm infantry but Ukraine and Poland are giving us all a masterclass right now.
Great! There is also a lot of talk about introduction of 1435 mm tracks in Ukraine. Ukraine mentioned about it multiple times and EU stated about this in official documents.
Yeah, they only would need to replace EVERY SINGLE THING related to railways to do so. Rails, railstations, trains and wagons etc. Even with massive EU support, its too unrealistic, as it would mean gigantic costs, or force Ukraine to use 2 railsystem, that arent working with each other. And as the video said - Ukraine has the biggest train network in whole Europe, it took a century to build up. How are you supposed to change it?
@@alexejvornoskov6580 Many railway lines need repairs anyway. Most trains and wagons needs replacement too. So this is the best moment to do so. And this change will make Ukraine more safe in the case of the next of Moscovian attack due to railway incompatibility :) European companies helping Ukrainians are already getting >1000 wagons which maybe could function on both networks; they would need wagon bogie to be replaced (Ukrainian wagons have more similar bogies to American bogies than European ones).
@@robertab929 Many railway lines need repairs, true. But its always few meters that need to be replaced, not 1000s of km. And no - its not only about wagon bogie( switchable are way more complicated and expensive compared to normal ones btw). but wagon sizes too. Normal Ukrainian wagons are simply too big for European net, so you would need to replace way more then mere 1000 wagons. There is simply not so much money going around. Who would pay for that? Ukraine doesnt have any money, Europeans have investment backlog for years to come. If they would give money to Ukraine for that while their own rail systems are breaking apart. then it will politically backfire. That leaves us with private investors - and that actually direction that Ukraine wishes to go. But as history shown us, thats the wrong way and would only lead to even more problems in form of rising cost and reduction of service. Ukraine need to come back to its feet first, so i dont see this project going any further then few lines on a border, where the wagons would need to be reloaded, making its not really that cost effective. There was a reason why that wasnt done in last 30 years. Political situation did change dramatically, but not the economical. Demand for Ukrainian transports was limited and im not sure if it will increase that much. And if it will be economically wise vs using Odessa for ship transport as was done before. Depending on result of the war it may become to small to hadle all the shipment, but they still mostly more economical then train. Especially since ships can go to other places beside europe, where there actually is demand for Ukrainian products.
@@alexejvornoskov6580 It is easier to rebuilt railway in Ukraine to where the state of infrastructure is poor, than in Baltic states where many lines were renovated. But Ukrainian Railway has a plan how to implement it. And UE promised to help with funding. There is already first 70-km long 1435-mm line build in Ukraine close to border with Poland. And there will be next sections build towards Kyiv and beyond. There are also other connections build in parallel. It is easier to build 1435-mm line based on 1520-mm line that vice versa. These +1000 wagons are from U.S. They have size which is acceptable on European railways. And this is just a beginning. There will be more :) These American wagons with have European bogie (similar to US), but they will be owned by Ukrainians. Goods will still need to be reloaded between different wagon sets. A lot of effort is placed on intermodal containers. They can be easily moved between different trains and other means of transportation. Political situation changed dramatically, and this will have positive effect on funding. Funding comes from EU, U.S. and other sources. Port in Odesa is important but not reliable in current situation. Thus, it is important to push to make railway as efficient as possible.
@@alexejvornoskov6580 In general, this is realistic if it takes 20-30 years to lay combined tracks along the main highways for repairs, but it can be used in a hybrid way. rolling stock, wagons, etc. are being redone + a lot is already changing. but it is very expensive unfortunately
Britain built narrow gauge railways on western front for supplies, they used diesel and petrol engined locomotives to prevent Germans from seeing steam and smoke.
what is wrong with your brain. Timely means that the documentary talking about logistics comes out AFTER the war is over. NOT BEFORE!!! WHO DO YOU THINK IS WATCHING WESTERN MEDIA TALK ABOUT UKRAINE???
Something important to know, for all who are interested in history and/or support Ukraine: Rus' ought not to be confused with modern “Russia”, which derives its name from the Rus' but historically is a completely different state, which almost all its existence was at war with the Rus'. Just like the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany, “Russia” is actually Muscovy, despite their best attempts to convince everybody otherwise. Its name “Russia" received only around 1721, when Peter I simply changed Muscovy’s name into the “Russian” Empire (Russia originates from Rosia, name used by the Greek Orthodox Clergy in regards to Rus') Under the reign of Cathrine II Muscovites where even punished for continuing to identify as Muscovites, and were forced to call themselves Russian. Lands that Russia (Muscovy) claims were part of the original Rus', but actually weren't, are Novgorod, Suzdal, and Ryazan, since in historical texts of XI-XII centuries they are mentioned as separate entities from Rus'. They can be considered parts of extended Rus', although their culture was distinct from main Rus'. In 1493, Muscovite duke Ivan III appointed himself to be the Great Ruler of All Rus'. No other kings acknowledged that. From that point on Muscovy started to make false claims on Rus' ownership. “Russia” is an offshoot of Ukraine and not the other way round, despite what Soviet and Russian (Muscovite) historians have been trying to say for years. A Slavo-Finnic, Mongolized offshoot. Kyiv was a developed cultured capital when Moscow was just another swamp village. Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire, that didn’t mean they became the Romans, and all of a sudden had a right to claim whole of Italy and its history, but yet, that’s exactly what Russia (Muscovy) did in regards to Rus'-Ukraine, which is a horrible injustice!
i have learned so many of the names of the places in Ukraine, Zaporozhia, Luhansk, Kharkiv, i can now point to these on a map, and it was so easy to follow this video. i feel shame it took a war to make this. though, i knew a little before, about Lysychansk and places around it from a street art finding video.
Not sure whether you are from Ukraine, but to those that are: do not privatize your railway system. Currently it is out of the question anyway, but even after the war. I'm from Germany and we are moving away from that. Trying to do so just let to a lot of inefficient spending and huge paydays for manager. A rail system has a natural monopoly. It might be ok to have a few private operators for cargo, but the network and the passenger infrastructure have to be publicly owned or it all goes to shit. And yes it'll cost public money, and you probably have to modernize and streamline the organization. But there are huge economic benefits to having a functional rail infrastructure.
What was on the table is not privatizing but letting other cargo operators use the existing railway network. And the was little progress with that, keeping the railway system highly inefficient and quite corrupt too. Ukrainian Railways desperately needed some healthy transformation to make it more transparent and controllable. Because it's been a very lucrative source of personal enrichment for some personalities, especially in the department of procurement. And the greight rate structure has been greatly influenced by oligarhs, who have big shares in mining industry. Well, it's all complicated.
@@oleksiysokolov3510 Yeah, just wanted to say that, because it often is brought up as a solution to inefficient government structures but it is not. The solution is to make these structures more efficient. And yeah, to me from the outside it looks like Ukraine has changed a lot in the recent years. But probably corruption will still be a problem, it is something that has to be fought constantly anyway. If public institutions is corrupt, privatization and public private partnerships are a huge opportunity to make big money for corrupt private elites though. Often, someone manages to get the public infrastructure rather cheaply and then sell the services back to the public for huge amounts of money.
I would say that best way how to do that is to completely separate tracks from the trains. Then you have transparent access to infrastructure and healthy competition can develop and later state can benefit from that as well. Especially if there are some trains ordered and subsidized by government or various local councils. Only thing that is then necessary is to secure that there will be some universal ticket that is valid on all trains that are subsidized by government and councils. That is the system that is in place in Czechia for some 15 years and I would say that it works well as number of passengers was rising and utilization of infrastructure is also high, in fact so high that demand exceeds available capacity. (And SŽ is somehow unable to comprehend that and still misplaces funds to various branch lines instead to large project that will increase capacity of main lines. Well they bet on HSR that should be in service around 2030, but the capacity was needed yesterday.)
@@MrToradragon I see that for goods to some extent, but not really for passengers. Passenger traffic needs a tight integration of timetables and to achieve that you have to integrate infrastructure development with the development of the offered service. You need some instance that comes up with the time table for inter regional traffic and instances per region that come up with regional timetables and they have to cooperate. In the end to work these decisions have to be guided by politics. Cargo is less integrated. Trains usually run from point to point. So that can work. What you can do for passenger traffic is to outsource operation of the trains. In Germany that is done for regional traffic. The time table is defined by the regional Government and then contracted to some company for a few years. And they in turn pay for using the infrastructure. I'm not sure, how effective that system is, though. The only competition is for a bunch of government contracts. One could do the same on the inter regional traffic. Traffic increasing isn't really a good indicator. Traffic has increased here as well. Demand is just increasing because people are much more mobile. But the infrastructure has been run down, everything is managed for maximal profit to get ready to sell the still state owned rail company on the stock marked. It is changing now, but that was the goal for over 20 years. Personally, I believe state owned companies can work very well. Most water suppliers and most local transportation services in Germany are state owned and work very well and are not particularly inefficient. You just need proper oversight. And it has to be an area where innovation is not extremely fast and where you have a natural monopoly anyway.
@@salia2897 The integration of timetable is up to those who order the trains. So there should not be any problems with that and in case of regional trains, they try to get timetables as close as possible to various expresses ordered by the government. That is less of issue. Problem with unitary railways that we had here was that they behaved like state within the state and they were not willing to provide service that were demanded by public and industry and frankly were unwilling to improve. In 90's they took significant part of industry and economy as hostage during strike, only result was massive shift from rails to roads as many companies discovered that they can run in just in time model and don't have massive warehouses full of stuff as it took long time to get stuff by rail between factories. Few years later, it had something to do with accession to EU as well, unitary railways were split into two entities that have nothing common, beside owner (Czech Republic), one that take care of tracks and other one that runs trains (that one was further split to two other). Under such arrangement, same as with roads, attempts for various inner subsidies inside RR company are minimized and government is responsible for quality of railroad, that is then used by whoever pays for the capacity.
250.000 people does not mean over-staffing, it means that they are adequately staffed, most other European railway companies laid of massive amounts of staff for profitability but not because they were redundant.
In some ways yes, other ways no. This figure suggests there is far less technological sophistication and efficiency on Ukrainian railways, so they have to make it up with more staff. There is a lot of performance and efficiency that can be gained from automation of some systems, and it can decrease costs of staffing too
@@andrewreynolds4949 No, as some jobs can be automated away, people should be shifted into other areas such as service and many other areas, to further improve the service. Laying off staff is not in the interest of anyone. The railways also have a responsibility and can't just lay them off for a little extra profit.
@@mx338 That can absolutely be taken too far as well though. Steam locomotives were very labor intensive to run, and as replacement with other technologies made some jobs redundant those employees were rightly let go. Signalling used to employ hundreds in small signal boxes, but powered and electronic signalling and consolidation meant the railways can operate much more efficiently with fewer people now. The trouble is finding the right balance, and the figures here suggest Ukraine may be heavy on labor. That doesn't mean other railways can't be having issues with trimming staff too much; it means Ukraine might need to find ways to make operations more efficient, which would probably include trimming labor needs
@@andrewreynolds4949 there certainly is limits to it but many other European railways just cut down way too much after privatisation. One little example for example from my life is that even recruiting for DB failed to respond to my application within a month, even though I applied for a high skill position as a cloud engineer, after inquiring I did confirm that they just simply didn't get around to it.
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@Railways Explained , 0:40 Crimean peninsula is a part of Ukraine. And no, 2 million Ukrainians did not evacuate to the russian federation. It was Poland who accepted almost 2 million Ukrainians. The more you know… _;))_
Funny, at 12:12 you are talking about renewal of locomotives, but you show a picture of a Russian factory (you can see the RZD-logo on the red locomotive). In fact, most of the Ukrainian rolling stock is very old. They bought some American diesels recently, but that's almost nothing compared with the whole fleet.
The problem is that parts that are endangered by Russia and parts that can be connected to 1435 mm world are on opposite sides of Ukraine. You know, converting line from Poland to Lviv or system in Carpathian Ruthenia will not impede Russian expansion.
When the Ukies win the war, it should convert to standard 1435 guage track like the rest of Europe and consider the main truck routes the first to have overhead electrics. They also should be using proven equipment like EMD 710, CAT C175 and MTU power units for which parts are plentiful and standardised.
The main trunk routes in Ukraine are already electrified I believe. What they could consider is converting the 3kv DC lines to 25kv AC, to give greater compatibility in their equipment
@@andrewreynolds4949 Well Poland uses 3kV DC and they are, AFAIK, not converting anytime soon and large parts of Ukraine already use 25kV AC. So the conversion will happen the east (but it will be more like building from scratch) and on some lines crossing Carpathian mountains.
Trunk lines should already be electrified (but maybe it was damaged during current war). They have already talked about regauging during the summer, but if I remember it correctly, it will take decades to do so. And I would guess that they will go for something like Vectron and TRAXX and current fleet will be used on remaining broad gauge lines. Some private companies, on the other hand, could go for used locomotives like ČD Class 242 and ČD Class 230 or maybe some "newer" ČD Class 3xx which are able to operate on both 3kV DC and 25kV AC. Ukrainians already have some Czechoslovak locomotives that were build around the same time as classes 242 and 230, so it should be easy for them to use them. As well there is chance that they could buy ČD Class 380 from ČD as those are slowly replaced by Tauruses or Vectrons and are quite new, some 15 years old and can already operate in Poland and Slovakia. So if they would expand standard gauge to Kovel and either regauge or rebuild, as mixed gauge, to Lviv, those locos could easily serve there for another 15-30 years.
@@MrToradragon Honestly that's what I would expect. Poland is building new high-speed lines at 25kv AC, but I don't think Poland will start looking at conversion much until Czech Republic and Slovakia complete their conversion programs. However, there is currently a break of gauge between Ukraine and its (friendly) neighbors, meaning trains are mostly unable to run onto the Polish network anyway. It would be more beneficial to Ukraine to be able to eliminate its internal voltage incompatibility, with the need for locomotive or unit changes and differing maintenance supplies. Unless, that is, they do plan to convert their rail gauge to European standard.
@@andrewreynolds4949 I don't think that Poland will convert their system on other lines as the country is mostly flat and thus trains, even heavy freight one, require only minimal input. How fast will be conversion in Czechia and Slovakia is still open question, not only because of current situation, but as well because original plans were made years ago and invertor technology had advanced significantly. Just few months ago two inverter stations were put in service and oer 40 km stretch of line was switched to 25 kV. Those inverters solve problems with unbalanced load caused by trains so now the railway is not constrained by 110 kV grid tat is currently biggest constraint in many places as some sections would be unable to handle unbalanced load from AC locomotives, but can supply enough power to rectifier stations which loads phases evenly. Once they will sort out two other problems related to power distribution there is nothing that could stop fast conversion to AC. There already are proposals for split phase power supply to be used, that would be total game changer. I would say, based on Open Railway Maps, that war had already solved the issue with electrification. DC was mostly in eastern part of the country, so most of the infrastructure is most likely already gone or severely damaged. I have addressed issues arising from break of gauge in several comments here. There are transloading facilities in Slovakia, Poland and Hungary that need modernization and so do lines of both gauges that lead to them. As well they plan, or at least talk about, conversion to standard gauge. But there still will be quite long period when Ukraine will use two gauges (unless gremlin from Kremlin will go nuclear) so access to transloading facilities will be needed. So there will be some period of time when awkward dual gauge lines will exist at least between Poland and Ukraine and during first few years, most likely, they would suffice with second hand locomotives and rolling stock. One thing I don't see them giving up is wider loading gauge that they have. That will be permanent constraint in the future, but perhaps some lines in EU will be made to accommodate wider rolling stock as well.
Railways are vital in wartime. Good to hear Ukraine's are holding up. I did wonder if we needed to send locomotives to help out, but it would depend on how long re gauging them locally would take.
Thanks, but so far there are not big problems with locomotives. Of course the old rolling stock will have to be changed, so thanks for the offer, but is not required urgently, so don't worry about it for now:)
Well we had a lot of old steam locomotives back in 2010s, as they said us in school "for wartime" but I haven't heard about these for years now. Maybe there is not a lot of sence in them without Donbass's coal.
@@HZeshka The problem with steam locomotives is that they need a soft water, otherwise the boiler will be covered with scale and the steam locomotive will not go far) In addition he needs to replenish supplies of coal and engine oil. Therefore is much easier to use diesel locomotives :)
this is a good quality video! Glory to Ukrzaliznitsia. Most of EU/US even don't realize how big Ukraine is in the territory and it's meaning to world economics. Still, Ukrzaliznitsia had a lot of problems with depreciation and the Soviet legacy management system, but each year it's moving forward
No wonder today's news is talking about Lyman getting back control by the Ukrainian force. It's the train hub of the Donbass region... Now we get the point.
do you see the baltics and poland shifting to the european gauge mid- to longterm? It would be a massive investment and I guess take a minimum of 2 decades but It might be worth it longterm.
Poland has standard gauge ever since the start. There's only one line from Ukraine with Russian broad gauge. Rail Baltica will only add a new standard gauge line towards Poland but not convert existing braod gauge lines.
@@Schnaitheimer in fact, the Baltic rail will replace the main routes of those countries, and from it they will gradually rebuild the railway there, after all, there are not so many routes.
you just called these people heros for talking about how important logistics and the rail system is to Ukraine. The war is still going on, buddy. are they heros or are they using the news to get viral content and potentially hurt ukraine? Do you have half of a goddamned brain?
Informative and interesting video! 👍 I travelled by train across unoccupied Ukraine back in October, and I have to say that UZ have been doing an incredible job in keeping the trains running on time. Out of the six trains that I took, the longest delay (on arrival) was only six minutes! The longest train ride that I had (14h13) actually arrived two minutes early. So, I raise my proverbial hat to Ukrzaliznytsia for running trains more or less according to schedule under these very difficult circumstances. BTW: Ukrzaliznytsia, or Ukrainska Zaliznytsia, actually translates to Ukrainian Railway, not Railways; but even on their official website, they use the "incorrect" plural form (in English) instead of the singular one, so go figure.
Quite interesting to see how our Railways are working. Sorry, but I want to correct you a little, don't use the russian names for our cities please (ex. Kyiv* not "Kiev"). Thanks for that video, quite informative)
I'd really like to see your opinion on how Russian rollingstock is breaking down under the cut off of Swiss and German machine parts. How much time do you give them before were looking at WW1 type industrial collapse?
The Russians big problem is roller bearings. Prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union these were supplied from Kharkiv. After the 2022 invasion every single country making heavy duty bearings cut off supplies to Russia. Sweden was previously the major non-aligned bearing manufacturing country (via SKF).
@@alexandrep4913 Russia did collapse in 1991 (and 1917). Europe has been propping it up and cleaning up the mess Russia made of Eastern Europe ever since. Russia has had a problem with incompetent and/or corrupt “strong” leaders for centuries but still has twigged. Leaders have a shelf life - Putin and his cronies are past theirs.
@UCh2SkjkVSiAQEC3gZHWE59Q Actual quality bearings were made in Kharkiv. The Soviet Union imported bearings from SKF for its entire existence - and Russia did until April this year. Russian trains run on either JSC Kharkov or SKF bearings (or used to).
@Kenneth It is better to see how it will be situation in Germany and Swiss during december 2023 without Russian gas and fertilizer. It will be really cold and belly empty. Real life hunger games. Kind regards.
fun fact: russia as mentioned not only uses the same rail gauge (as they originally built it), but they also have a whole wing of their military dedicated to train and rail based logistics.
Even Ukraine with ageing rail infrastructure and rolling stock moves far more people per year than Amtrak in the US, although that's because Ukraine has a higher population density than the US but then I remember that Russia is far larger than the US and has less people and rail travel seems to be much more popular there than here :(
Ukraine tickets on trains and city transport are the cheapest in the world. For example, nowadays the ticket for 1 trip in Kyiv metro, tram, bus and trolley-bus costs only 8 UAH = 0,2 USD. This is the state of real socialism in a good sense of this word....
@@TheOlgaSasha Here in the US if I travel from my city to Santa Barbara on Amtrak, it costs me $50 round trip. And that's 66 miles or over 100 kilometers in distance.
@@AlexCab_49 Last week I went from Kyiv to Chernigiv (almost 200 km) by Skoda Intercity Express (Skoda EJ675) in 2nd class . It costed 164 UAH (4 USD). It is rather comfortable Czech doubledecker train for such price.
It's an open (not so public) secret: Why do foreign and domestic politicians come to the battlefield by train, because in the composition of the train they arrive, they bring military logistics: planes, tanks, cannons, ordnance, means of communication, fuel, etc. The head of Russia knows this fact and knows the exact route in detail. However, all corrupt politicians are of no value to me, and therefore the law on forcible detention should be followed. Whereas ordinary people who think for themselves have an inestimable value for me. That is why the common man should be protected from corrupt politicians.( the critically thinking )
Imagine the airlift If the antonov 225 wasnt destroyed and Gostomel wasnt bombed. But the railway workers importance cannot be denied, they are indeed the second army.
Railway companies should not be expected to be profitable the same way roads aren't expected to make profit directly, they are an integral part of the infrastructure, and investment into them will always pay off in development and an increased revenue in other sectors of the economy.
Change the gauge as quick as possible - i.e. if 2 tracks exist sacrifice one immediately and convert to EU standards, from the EU borders inward. The sooner the better as EU stock could be used before Ukraine gets it's own. And the other benefit is Russia can't use any of the new lines. As soon as one line is converted pull up the 2nd track, this should be a priority!
Russian gauge is broader than European standard gauge, so it’s a matter of taking the rails inward. No need to sacrifice the width of the second track, they gain extra width instead. Conversion probably won’t happen until after the war
@@andrewreynolds4949 yes but if the rail is just moved inwards, it could be moved just as easily back to its original position..... whereas new sleepers (concrete) would be a whole different ballgame! And any track now in Ukrainian hands at the border needs to be destroyed for a couple of miles!
@@andrewreynolds4949 How you will move rail inwards on concrete sleepers? It has holes that will interfere with the rail and 3rd rail is not an option, or at leas not in sense that you would add 3rd R65 (type of rail used in former USSR), or any other type, next to reach other. Those gauges are too close. So you either need at leas tone track to be converted and so will need to be given half of each station, to standard gauge, or you will need special gauntlet track to be build. And once you will hit the station, it will be pain in the ass (switches). So I would say that one-one, half-half is best option for now. If there is enough spare sleepers in Europe, even if they are old.
@@wino99999 Both the Germans and Soviets had a lot of trouble in WW2 with moving every bit of rail that small distance as they advanced, despite concrete sleepers not being much of a thing compared to wooden sleepers. Destroying track at the border is a problem in areas where Ukraine intends to advance; it would hinder them there nearly as much as it would Russia. I'm guessing there have already been efforts elsewhere to hinder rail links across the border. It doesn't even have to be anywhere near a mile's worth; a single relatively short length of track is very hard to repair while under fire and would greatly hinder Russia's ability to advance large forces for long enough to make a difference. I assume any large-scale gauge conversion in Ukraine would be after this conflict ends, since any such significant disruption to the supply chain would be massively detrimental to Ukraine's war effort. It will also have to be on a tight budget, given the massive strain the war is putting on the Ukrainian economy.
@@MrToradragon Not with concrete sleepers, but I have seen plenty of pictures and footage with wooden sleepers in Ukraine. It will keep down costs in most places, which is important given the economic strain Ukraine will have by the time the war ends.
I don't know if this is relevant at this point, but it would be wise for Ukraine to change gauge size of its rail network to Europe standard, for two reasons first to cut Russia of from using it, second if Ukraina wants to be close to Europe, it will solve a lot of problems in logistics
Facts about that countries, both Russia and Ukraine, they both never bought trains or Rolling Stock from either China or Japan, anyone know why? even Russia itself chose Germany via Siemens to build the high-speed rail
Whiteism. Most people around the world still think white European (including descendant) do things better even thought that's not the case in many area
I think this is because these countries supplied themselves with rolling stock for a long time during the soviet union, and carried over those industries. China and Japan also weren't large exporters until recently. Both, and especially Japan have different rail gauges, which complicates matters. Siemens on the other hand specializes in international export.
Well, Poland is building now HSR network w/o German support. There will be HSR line (1435 mm) connecting Warsaw and Kyiv. CPK is working on the project of the Polish part for now. Poland can share technology with Ukrainians. CPK has already promised to help Ukrainians. And Ukrainians started cooperation with Poland. Polish companies like PESA and Newag can build trains. In addition, there are several international companies with factories in Poland.
in the USSR, the production of trains was well established, and as they wanted modern ones, they turned to the Europeans due to the established ties of the old when Japan and China were not so successful in the construction of trains. If we take the whole of Asia, then Ukraine bought Korean trains from Hyundai Rotem.
The Soviets (and maybe Russians, too) _did_ buy a small amount of rolling stock from Japan for use on the Sakhalin Railway, which was 3'6" gauge until 2019
These is where rail transport in the US, being run and created by private companies allowed for the creation of multiple railroads serving one area, or even on industry. Which is superior in terms of redundancy and prices. Second, it's bizarre how whole railroad lines and branches in Ukraine are owned by one company.... Seems like that is just asking for trouble and unnecessary complexity...
All rail transport in a country being owned by 1 (often state owned) company has long been the norm in most of Europe. I fail to see how this could lead to “complexity” compared to the American situation.
@@timpauwels3734 The network itself will be more complex in terms of structure, the systems for remote control will be more complex and there is good chance that you will have only one good line serving given route and the rest will be, well bit outdated.
It depends, both approaches have merit. It’s an idea of integrated planning for efficiency vs competition for better market reach. Both have flaws too, like too much competition for too little potential business or a centralized system holding a monopoly and stagnating in some areas
@@andrewreynolds4949 One huge advantage of privately owned system is that it can run through several states without any need for changes of locomotive or crew as the signalling is the same and regulation is as well.
@@MrToradragon That depends on whether there is a standard on control systems and infrastructure. To be fair, the EU is trying to implement such new standards. In Britain the original private rail companies all built to different loading gauges (and occasionally different track gauges as well), which could make traffic interchange difficult and has caused problems for the system as a whole since then
The EU needs to step up and support the Ukraine by helping to convert the Ukrainen Railroads to EU standard guage so as to deneigh the russians from using it.
That is true, but that will not help with this war. Best thing the Ukraine can do now is to remove any line running to Russia and Belarus, they have control over. That ill deny access as well and reconstruction of line is not easy task to be done during war. But once war is over, it surely should be done.
Initially very tedious but got much better. I suspect the employees have heroically repaired track. And there are any number of backwater tracks cunningly operated. I have been astounded by overseas leaders using it.
How is the rail width in China and on all BRI-Lines from China appart ? Is it European standard gauge with something around 140 cm or Sowjet broad gauge with around 150 cm ? Ukraine has Sowjet gauge. If Ukraine would be merged into EU space, perhaps Ukrainian rail lines may be changed to european normal width. And if China expands its BRI Lines through south east Europe (Ukraine, Turkey etc.) will european or sowjet gauge be used ?
One of the first laws pushed by Zelinsky was to open the ownership of farming land to foreign companies. Immediately, many multinational US based companies bought... 30% of these lands. And they continue... And now when we talk of "cereal exports blocked by Russia", we are talking of Monsanto / gates / Bayer goods that are blocked...
You said a lot of true things, but there were some mistakes, for example, Yes, the Russian army is based on Railway logistics and although it uses it, however, at this time, due to military failures, it is trying to disrupt Ukrainian logistics, namely: cruise missile strikes on the bridge in Zatoka ( Odessa region ), a bridge on the Dnieper in the city of Cherkassy, strikes on traction stations (electric substations of the railway) in the West of the country, several strikes on tunnels, and strikes on marshalling yards. Traction stations are being repaired very quickly and Russia has lost interest in them.
It's very unfortunate that Ukraine liberalised its national railway into a public company, this has been catastrophic for service quality in Germany, the UK and others. The neoliberal nature of the modern EU is unfortunately very problematic.
I wouldn't say it's unfortunate, the branding is better, plus competition is possible. Before that, railways here were in decline and disrepair much more
@@kosmosdemon The same goes for Germany, but you shouldn't run a railway to be profitable, it's paart of the critical infrastructure. Railways don't need to make money because they generate revenue in so many other areas of the economy.
@@masterman1502 In Germany and the UK the brand of the railways suffered extremely under liberalisation. While you could once set your clock by the train arrivals in Germany, now the DB has become unreliablity personified and everyone at least takes an hour buffer to account for delays in long distance trains. The mismanagement to be profitable was so bad that Berlin had a years long commuter rail crisis, where at some points of time less trains were operational then right after WWII. And in almost every other area the the service has suffered, too, many tracks and switches were removed, companies were disconnected or disconnected from freight rail because of the service quality and much more. Now DB is profitable but at what cost to the wider German economy?
In the meantime it works quite good in Czechia. But we went for full separation of tracks and trains so České Dráhy (state train operator) has no stakes in Správa Železnic that "owns" the tracks. (Technically tracks are owned by the Czech Republic and SŽ only take care about maintenance and expansion) And it works well, in fact so well that demand for capacity is much greater than available capacity and it seems like even if currently proposed projects will be done, it still will not be enough.
I love my railways! I do not greet westernization, I like when it's made by my country, our hands, how would you feel when you made something with your golden hands? That's exactly what I want, my country with Ukrainian railways. Respect to Luhanskteplovoz and Kryukivskiy Vabonny Zavod!
It's because Crimea is it's own republic under the Russian Federation since at least 2013 that is why. Crimea Railways is also officially seperate from Ukrainian Railways PJSC as it is owned by the Russian Railways company...
@@wouterke9871 I'm not trolling, they voted to become a part of the "Russian Federation" wether you agree with the outcome or not or believe that the election was fraudulent, that doesn't matter, what does is that the land is controlled by the Russian Federation and not the Ukrainian Government so feel free to stay salty. I'm not a Russiaphile but I have my suspicions that your still crying that Russia won the 2008 Russo-Georgian War by being able to continue their sphere of influence on the region as far west as BIH and as far east as Khazakstan.
Who is the author of this video? Ukraine might desperately need diesel electrics as an emergency measure if there will be constant blackouts and electricity supply problems. Poland does make a hybrid that takes power from overhead plus from diesel as required. NSW in Australia is dumping 19 diesel electric power units known as XPT with the decline in rural passengers. Not sure that Poland and Germany rapidly adding Russian gauge line is mentioned which is possibly critical and a reverse of previous policies of ensuring the gauges to Russia and Ukraine and the changeover difficult for a Soviet invasion. If you can bring the possible need for diesel electrics and the existence of the Polish hyrbids to the attention of someone in Ukraine as a possible prudent emergency measure that might be helpful to Ukraine.
@@operator9858 That because Putin's goons failed to achieve any military victory beyond dispuited Don basins past the first planned Three Days and thus Putin Russians had to resort to vicious means-total war. I'm not sure if Old Soviets kept any armored trains anywhere in Ukraine and forgot to haul these back when Soviets disintegrated ? or if Lugansk Factory can build any armored train armed with HIMARS and GPS guided artillery and Iron Dome system?
Выключил после картики на 0:38 секунде. Это мягко сказать - ложь . В Польше минимум 4 миллиона украинцев, а в россии +- 250 - 300 тысяч ! Автор не мог случайно завысить цифры в 10 раз !
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Sounds so sketchy
I attended a logistics seminar by Indian army some days ago. They were talking about the Ukraine war, and they pointed out how terrible the co-ordination between Russian military and railways were. Apparently 10000+ wagons have gone stranded on Russian railways due to the war and the logistics bottleneck. The seminar kinda seemed like using Russia as an example of how not to handle wartime logistics.
Ukrainians have been working on their logistics with NATO as a whole and the US in particular since the Crimea occupation, if not before.
Russia logistics is never good you need to understand . India ocean you can ship goods one end to another but in Russia it not possible artic ocean is freeze all time you need to go east to west by crossing Europe, through middle East and India and finally Japan and then east Russia. only railways connect east side to west Russia but 9000 km railways largest in world which is difficult. Russia smallest population and largest land is headache for Russia transport system .usa geological is perfect they can be acces to sea but Russia is not good in sea route .even Soviet never built aircraft carrier not because technology but where can you drive shipso there built submire . Russia transport system is need to develop but is not possible for them
india is not exactly a shining example when it comes to logistics. the state of roads & infrastructure in uttarakand leading up to the northern border is laughable. china must be laughing at how they take years to resolve problems of critical national security imperative
@@Kevin-fq3zh i agreed with Indian logistics is not better but Chinese logistics is better in world there are known to infrastructure projects , railways ,ports,to highways they done great jobs . usa river transport system is cheaper compare china railways but in usa not great in railways every country have unique transport .India population is high so they logistics is not better they need update but railways are expensive it needs large numbers of people to maintain , repair,operate,but limited lifespan china and India railways always need to build , repair ,retrack etc so railways not best for usa
@@Kevin-fq3zh Obviously not. But it has done a lot of improvement in last few years and is continuously improving (the seminar itself was a part of that). Compared to that Russia is woefully inadequate and is destroying itself by doing pointless wars.
Excellent video! Railways have been the backbone of wartime logistics for a long time. Let us remember those who gave everything to keep these systems running, even on the edge of collapse.
Hey R-tard. let me ask you something.... is this a documentary praising the rail system inside a country that is currently at war... a war where people are dying in order to keep their land? a war where logistics makes a difference between life and death a daily struggle? and this documentary describes those logistics systems?
Topic interesting, but plenty errors in the video.
Before war I used to travel from Kharkiv to my hometown using railway. More than 100 kilometers to cross, twice per week.
On the way back home I usually engaged myself with a cozy book about travels accompanied with a calm music in the headphones.
And sometimes glancing at the window, witnessing endless fields of wheat and sunflowers, with God rays shining in the distance from the clouds roaming above the land.
Sure, the wagons were old and loud. Sometimes too small to fit all passengers.
The road took me hours to get home, but given the price it was really worth it.
Overall, even witnessing only small portion of this state-size machine, I have mostly good memories and special moments about it.
And now, after all this began, I started respecting rail workers even more, with just how much pressure they should deal with.
And they successfully keep doing it
Слава Україні
Героям Слава)
Сподіваюся що старі ЕР-9М в Харківській області теж скоро перероблять, як це зробили з "Київ сіті" і вам буде ще приємніше їздити залізницею:)
I'm from the US and curious. Has there been any discussion about moving to standard gauge along with the EU transition?
@@reubensandwich9249 don't really know about any specifics, but definitely can tell that Ukraine now has a strong sail towards EU, step by step integrating and basically upgrading itself on different levels taking EU as an example.
Definitely, railway infrastructure is a part of it
@@reubensandwich9249 There were some discussions, but a long-term plan hasn't been laid out. It's more likely that a separate high-speed passenger train line gonna be built in the standard gauge, but cargo lines remain the same for a while. Once sea ports restore to full operability, this should alleviate a lot of pressure. Also, some standard gauge lines gonna be extended inside Ukraine and integrated with the rest of infrastructure. Some other wide-gauge lines are being extended into Poland and Romania. So, it looks like Ukraine gonna have a mix of both standards.
I practically grew up on the Italian railways of the 70s and 80s, having family in two different parts of the country - some of my best memories are of travelling for hours on those clunky old trains, sitting in station bars waiting for my connection, reading novels, doing my homework, eavesdropping on people speaking all sorts of different languages, chatting to strangers (including young guys planning to evade the draft by failing their medical - how weird to think of that now). I felt a little twinge in my heart as I read your comment. The system that this video explains so well feels strangely familiar to me, though Italy has a very different history; the trains look familiar, somehow. One day I will travel all over Ukraine on those trains, I'm learning the language specially so I don't have to do that anglophone thing of expecting everyone to speak my language (also it's a beautiful language). May your commute be restored to you, along with the rest of your life and country.
Героям Слава! Україна переможе 💙💛
Thanks so much guys for this super informative upload! Major rail geek here, yet I learned a ton. And as a resident of one of the most Ukrainian cities outside of Ukraine (Winnipeg), and the son and grandson of lifer railroad men, I nearly cried with your tribute to the railway workers of Ukraine at the end of the episode.
Slava Ukraini!!
why in the mother of God are you praising a youtube channel for describing the logistics system of a country... that is at war, and the logistics system is one of the biggest struggles in this war considering the 1,000 mile long war front?
As a Canadian Ukrainian and a son of a railroad man myself, I totally share your feelings!
@@davidanalyst671 What the hell are you whinging about, your post doesn't even make grammatical sense. Wrap up! Analyst of what, you can't even write a correct sentence?
@@davidanalyst671 because their efforts are nothing short of heroic
We are very thankful to and proud of Ukrzaliznytsa. I myself evacuated via their evacuation train, and returned home on one. Brave women and men serving their country 💙💛
One interesting point about Ukraine railways: they were designed for a population of 50+ million with heavy industry in mind. Recently Ukrainian economy has been transforming a lot, quite some people left the country, including women and children in wartime, and there was some blockage of metal and agriculture exports due unavailability of ports. This means, Ukraine had some room in terms of railroad capacity, and, as stated in video, has become more effective than ever before. This was definitely a game changer, compared to Russian logistic hell and bad army-railroad coordination.
An excellent account. The second Ukraine army of railway men and women is a true wonder of the ages to behold.
Thanks )I didn't even think that our work wouldn't be so popular)
My relatives were evacuated from Kyiv by train. That journey was not about the comfort but rather about being able to evacuate, and even then the UZ tried to do it's best to make it comfortable. The return journey was more relaxed and also went with no issues. So, lots of kudos to the UZ for the tremendous job they are doing.
Слава всім залізничникам за самовідданість, працьовитість, службу та добрі бої. Це робота, яка з’єднує серця. З дружбою з Японії.
鉄道従事者の皆さんの献身と努力、奉仕と健闘に称賛を。心をつなぐ仕事です。日本から友情を込めて。
Дякую!
Дякую пане! ありがとうございます
interesting that multiple people who know both a cyrillic language (unsure if ukrainian or russian) and Japanese have come together in these comments! ♥
@@xymaryai8283 yeah, only Ukrainian, English and Japanese are present here)
Shower thought I was having recently: I wonder if, after this war ends, if it might be worth it for Ukraine to re-gauge their railways to standard gauge, to have interoperability with the rest of Europe. It would be a huge investment, but there's probably going to be a lot of rebuilding needed for practically all infrastructure in Ukraine anyways, so would it not be worth standardizing with the rest of the continent while they're at it?
They already talked about, like months ago there were several articles on this topic published where they talk about other issues like different loading gauges in Europe or low axle loads on standard gauge lines that today exist in Ukraine. Specifically they have mentioned that while in Ukraine they use around 23.5 t per axle, those line are build for less than 20 t per axle, which is problematic and on lower end of axle loads used in Europe. (Main lines in Czechia use 22.5 t per axle) Another problem is different coupling used in Europe (still mostly buffers and chains) and in Ukraine SA-3. But there is project for DAC (digital auto coupler) based on Scharfenberg coupler, so maybe Ukraine could change that as well. The problem is that companies in Europe are bit reluctant to implement it as it is expensive and must be done quickly to prevent various issues. So i guess that there will be some transition period with just "dumb" couplers.
Not just for European interoperability but to hinder military logistics for Russia should it ever think of invading again. (Spain adopted a different gauge to France for defence reasons.)
I've been there often, and Ukraine's getting very European, so: Good idea!
Well I as a Ukrainian think 100% percent it is worth it, but the hard part will be finding the money to do so once the war is over and we have our territories back. Maybe one by one start to replace the major lines like Hungary to Zakarpattia or Poland to Lviv.
@@yuriydee "...finding the money to do so..."
One word - *Russia*. They MUST pay for it as part of reparations for the war.
I don't care if reparations bankrupt Russia for the next 100 years. They MUST pay for the evil that they have unleashed on Ukraine.
I'have travelled several times to Ukraine around 2000, and yes, the rolling stock was really old, but was functional. Trains were very slow but this is comparable to what they have in the US today ahahah.
I liked very much the host at each car, with free tea from the samovar, the sleeping coaches were very spatious and the bathroom from the 50's was really big. Some of the cars had wooden window frames. !
But all the axel gearboxes were painted in white so you can see they are in perfect confitions.
The tracks were very bad on the vertical with humps and everything. But the suspension was very smooth so that was standable.
Rolling was smooth like british coaches. I really appreciate.
I'm surprised by your surprise over how much of Ukraine's cargo transport is carried by rail. In the US and Canada, under 50% is a low number; it's the massive profitability of cargo that's kept North American railways in private hands. Over a large country with minimal coastline like Ukraine, that's entirely appropriate.
true but in europe it works a bit differently than accross the atlantic. for one, passenger services have priority over goods trains, hence unlike the US we have decent public transport
Soldiers win battles, but logistics win wars.
Both Russia and other former Soviet states have relied heavily on rail to mobilise and arm infantry but Ukraine and Poland are giving us all a masterclass right now.
Look at the size of country. It sure beat marching.
Great!
There is also a lot of talk about introduction of 1435 mm tracks in Ukraine.
Ukraine mentioned about it multiple times and EU stated about this in official documents.
Yeah, they only would need to replace EVERY SINGLE THING related to railways to do so. Rails, railstations, trains and wagons etc. Even with massive EU support, its too unrealistic, as it would mean gigantic costs, or force Ukraine to use 2 railsystem, that arent working with each other. And as the video said - Ukraine has the biggest train network in whole Europe, it took a century to build up. How are you supposed to change it?
@@alexejvornoskov6580 Many railway lines need repairs anyway.
Most trains and wagons needs replacement too.
So this is the best moment to do so. And this change will make Ukraine more safe in the case of the next of Moscovian attack due to railway incompatibility :)
European companies helping Ukrainians are already getting >1000 wagons which maybe could function on both networks; they would need wagon bogie to be replaced (Ukrainian wagons have more similar bogies to American bogies than European ones).
@@robertab929 Many railway lines need repairs, true. But its always few meters that need to be replaced, not 1000s of km. And no - its not only about wagon bogie( switchable are way more complicated and expensive compared to normal ones btw). but wagon sizes too. Normal Ukrainian wagons are simply too big for European net, so you would need to replace way more then mere 1000 wagons. There is simply not so much money going around. Who would pay for that? Ukraine doesnt have any money, Europeans have investment backlog for years to come. If they would give money to Ukraine for that while their own rail systems are breaking apart. then it will politically backfire. That leaves us with private investors - and that actually direction that Ukraine wishes to go. But as history shown us, thats the wrong way and would only lead to even more problems in form of rising cost and reduction of service. Ukraine need to come back to its feet first, so i dont see this project going any further then few lines on a border, where the wagons would need to be reloaded, making its not really that cost effective. There was a reason why that wasnt done in last 30 years. Political situation did change dramatically, but not the economical. Demand for Ukrainian transports was limited and im not sure if it will increase that much. And if it will be economically wise vs using Odessa for ship transport as was done before. Depending on result of the war it may become to small to hadle all the shipment, but they still mostly more economical then train. Especially since ships can go to other places beside europe, where there actually is demand for Ukrainian products.
@@alexejvornoskov6580
It is easier to rebuilt railway in Ukraine to where the state of infrastructure is poor, than in Baltic states where many lines were renovated. But Ukrainian Railway has a plan how to implement it. And UE promised to help with funding.
There is already first 70-km long 1435-mm line build in Ukraine close to border with Poland. And there will be next sections build towards Kyiv and beyond.
There are also other connections build in parallel.
It is easier to build 1435-mm line based on 1520-mm line that vice versa.
These +1000 wagons are from U.S. They have size which is acceptable on European railways. And this is just a beginning. There will be more :)
These American wagons with have European bogie (similar to US), but they will be owned by Ukrainians. Goods will still need to be reloaded between different wagon sets.
A lot of effort is placed on intermodal containers. They can be easily moved between different trains and other means of transportation.
Political situation changed dramatically, and this will have positive effect on funding.
Funding comes from EU, U.S. and other sources.
Port in Odesa is important but not reliable in current situation. Thus, it is important to push to make railway as efficient as possible.
@@alexejvornoskov6580 In general, this is realistic if it takes 20-30 years to lay combined tracks along the main highways for repairs, but it can be used in a hybrid way. rolling stock, wagons, etc. are being redone + a lot is already changing. but it is very expensive unfortunately
Britain built narrow gauge railways on western front for supplies, they used diesel and petrol engined locomotives to prevent Germans from seeing steam and smoke.
Wow, just what I wanted to know !!!
Glory to the RR workers of Ukraine !!!
Very good and very timely. Pray for Ukraine.
but NOT for cocaine zelensky's azov nazis! DPR! LNR! CRIMEA! Z!
what is wrong with your brain. Timely means that the documentary talking about logistics comes out AFTER the war is over. NOT BEFORE!!! WHO DO YOU THINK IS WATCHING WESTERN MEDIA TALK ABOUT UKRAINE???
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Something important to know, for all who are interested in history and/or support Ukraine:
Rus' ought not to be confused with modern “Russia”, which derives its name from the Rus' but historically is a completely different state, which almost all its existence was at war with the Rus'.
Just like the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany, “Russia” is actually Muscovy, despite their best attempts to convince everybody otherwise.
Its name “Russia" received only around 1721, when Peter I simply changed Muscovy’s name into the “Russian” Empire (Russia originates from Rosia, name used by the Greek Orthodox Clergy in regards to Rus')
Under the reign of Cathrine II Muscovites where even punished for continuing to identify as Muscovites, and were forced to call themselves Russian.
Lands that Russia (Muscovy) claims were part of the original Rus', but actually weren't, are Novgorod, Suzdal, and Ryazan, since in historical texts of XI-XII centuries they are mentioned as separate entities from Rus'. They can be considered parts of extended Rus', although their culture was distinct from main Rus'.
In 1493, Muscovite duke Ivan III appointed himself to be the Great Ruler of All Rus'. No other kings acknowledged that. From that point on Muscovy started to make false claims on Rus' ownership.
“Russia” is an offshoot of Ukraine and not the other way round, despite what Soviet and Russian (Muscovite) historians have been trying to say for years. A Slavo-Finnic, Mongolized offshoot. Kyiv was a developed cultured capital when Moscow was just another swamp village.
Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire, that didn’t mean they became the Romans, and all of a sudden had a right to claim whole of Italy and its history, but yet, that’s exactly what Russia (Muscovy) did in regards to Rus'-Ukraine, which is a horrible injustice!
i have learned so many of the names of the places in Ukraine, Zaporozhia, Luhansk, Kharkiv, i can now point to these on a map, and it was so easy to follow this video. i feel shame it took a war to make this. though, i knew a little before, about Lysychansk and places around it from a street art finding video.
Щиро дякую за відео! Відтепер, я знаю більше фактів, про Укрзалізницю, да і в загалом про історію залізниць, своєї країни 👍
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Not sure whether you are from Ukraine, but to those that are: do not privatize your railway system. Currently it is out of the question anyway, but even after the war. I'm from Germany and we are moving away from that. Trying to do so just let to a lot of inefficient spending and huge paydays for manager. A rail system has a natural monopoly. It might be ok to have a few private operators for cargo, but the network and the passenger infrastructure have to be publicly owned or it all goes to shit. And yes it'll cost public money, and you probably have to modernize and streamline the organization. But there are huge economic benefits to having a functional rail infrastructure.
What was on the table is not privatizing but letting other cargo operators use the existing railway network. And the was little progress with that, keeping the railway system highly inefficient and quite corrupt too. Ukrainian Railways desperately needed some healthy transformation to make it more transparent and controllable. Because it's been a very lucrative source of personal enrichment for some personalities, especially in the department of procurement. And the greight rate structure has been greatly influenced by oligarhs, who have big shares in mining industry. Well, it's all complicated.
@@oleksiysokolov3510 Yeah, just wanted to say that, because it often is brought up as a solution to inefficient government structures but it is not. The solution is to make these structures more efficient.
And yeah, to me from the outside it looks like Ukraine has changed a lot in the recent years. But probably corruption will still be a problem, it is something that has to be fought constantly anyway.
If public institutions is corrupt, privatization and public private partnerships are a huge opportunity to make big money for corrupt private elites though.
Often, someone manages to get the public infrastructure rather cheaply and then sell the services back to the public for huge amounts of money.
I would say that best way how to do that is to completely separate tracks from the trains. Then you have transparent access to infrastructure and healthy competition can develop and later state can benefit from that as well. Especially if there are some trains ordered and subsidized by government or various local councils. Only thing that is then necessary is to secure that there will be some universal ticket that is valid on all trains that are subsidized by government and councils.
That is the system that is in place in Czechia for some 15 years and I would say that it works well as number of passengers was rising and utilization of infrastructure is also high, in fact so high that demand exceeds available capacity. (And SŽ is somehow unable to comprehend that and still misplaces funds to various branch lines instead to large project that will increase capacity of main lines. Well they bet on HSR that should be in service around 2030, but the capacity was needed yesterday.)
@@MrToradragon I see that for goods to some extent, but not really for passengers. Passenger traffic needs a tight integration of timetables and to achieve that you have to integrate infrastructure development with the development of the offered service. You need some instance that comes up with the time table for inter regional traffic and instances per region that come up with regional timetables and they have to cooperate. In the end to work these decisions have to be guided by politics.
Cargo is less integrated. Trains usually run from point to point. So that can work.
What you can do for passenger traffic is to outsource operation of the trains. In Germany that is done for regional traffic. The time table is defined by the regional Government and then contracted to some company for a few years. And they in turn pay for using the infrastructure.
I'm not sure, how effective that system is, though. The only competition is for a bunch of government contracts. One could do the same on the inter regional traffic.
Traffic increasing isn't really a good indicator. Traffic has increased here as well. Demand is just increasing because people are much more mobile. But the infrastructure has been run down, everything is managed for maximal profit to get ready to sell the still state owned rail company on the stock marked. It is changing now, but that was the goal for over 20 years.
Personally, I believe state owned companies can work very well. Most water suppliers and most local transportation services in Germany are state owned and work very well and are not particularly inefficient. You just need proper oversight.
And it has to be an area where innovation is not extremely fast and where you have a natural monopoly anyway.
@@salia2897 The integration of timetable is up to those who order the trains. So there should not be any problems with that and in case of regional trains, they try to get timetables as close as possible to various expresses ordered by the government. That is less of issue. Problem with unitary railways that we had here was that they behaved like state within the state and they were not willing to provide service that were demanded by public and industry and frankly were unwilling to improve. In 90's they took significant part of industry and economy as hostage during strike, only result was massive shift from rails to roads as many companies discovered that they can run in just in time model and don't have massive warehouses full of stuff as it took long time to get stuff by rail between factories.
Few years later, it had something to do with accession to EU as well, unitary railways were split into two entities that have nothing common, beside owner (Czech Republic), one that take care of tracks and other one that runs trains (that one was further split to two other). Under such arrangement, same as with roads, attempts for various inner subsidies inside RR company are minimized and government is responsible for quality of railroad, that is then used by whoever pays for the capacity.
Thank you for this video ~ God bless these railway heroes 🙏 💙💛
250.000 people does not mean over-staffing, it means that they are adequately staffed, most other European railway companies laid of massive amounts of staff for profitability but not because they were redundant.
In some ways yes, other ways no. This figure suggests there is far less technological sophistication and efficiency on Ukrainian railways, so they have to make it up with more staff. There is a lot of performance and efficiency that can be gained from automation of some systems, and it can decrease costs of staffing too
@@andrewreynolds4949 No, as some jobs can be automated away, people should be shifted into other areas such as service and many other areas, to further improve the service.
Laying off staff is not in the interest of anyone. The railways also have a responsibility and can't just lay them off for a little extra profit.
@@mx338 That can absolutely be taken too far as well though. Steam locomotives were very labor intensive to run, and as replacement with other technologies made some jobs redundant those employees were rightly let go. Signalling used to employ hundreds in small signal boxes, but powered and electronic signalling and consolidation meant the railways can operate much more efficiently with fewer people now. The trouble is finding the right balance, and the figures here suggest Ukraine may be heavy on labor. That doesn't mean other railways can't be having issues with trimming staff too much; it means Ukraine might need to find ways to make operations more efficient, which would probably include trimming labor needs
@@andrewreynolds4949 there certainly is limits to it but many other European railways just cut down way too much after privatisation.
One little example for example from my life is that even recruiting for DB failed to respond to my application within a month, even though I applied for a high skill position as a cloud engineer, after inquiring I did confirm that they just simply didn't get around to it.
Excellent.
Thanks
15:16 Also Czech, Slovenian, Polish and Slovakia PM's all went to Kyiv by train
And they were the first one to do so and it was as well during partial siege.
Ой спасибо вам за такой крутой контэнт!!я железнодорожник украинский,поехал на выходном 24 числа в 7 утра,хотя знал про войну,и десятки людей тоже поехали,нужно было вывозить поезда))
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@Railways Explained , 0:40 Crimean peninsula is a part of Ukraine.
And no, 2 million Ukrainians did not evacuate to the russian federation. It was Poland who accepted almost 2 million Ukrainians.
The more you know… _;))_
That 2 million to russia figure is not even "evacuation", and certainly not by trains. It's forced displacement by russian military.
Funny, at 12:12 you are talking about renewal of locomotives, but you show a picture of a Russian factory (you can see the RZD-logo on the red locomotive). In fact, most of the Ukrainian rolling stock is very old. They bought some American diesels recently, but that's almost nothing compared with the whole fleet.
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Isn't this a good time to start to extend standard gauge lines into Ukraine? changing the gauge would be a big impediment for Russian expansion plans.
The problem is that parts that are endangered by Russia and parts that can be connected to 1435 mm world are on opposite sides of Ukraine. You know, converting line from Poland to Lviv or system in Carpathian Ruthenia will not impede Russian expansion.
It will save the country, and the world!
I would love to go to Ukraine one day when things settle down
We'll be glad to have you 😊🌼
When the Ukies win the war, it should convert to standard 1435 guage track like the rest of Europe and consider the main truck routes the first to have overhead electrics. They also should be using proven equipment like EMD 710, CAT C175 and MTU power units for which parts are plentiful and standardised.
The main trunk routes in Ukraine are already electrified I believe. What they could consider is converting the 3kv DC lines to 25kv AC, to give greater compatibility in their equipment
@@andrewreynolds4949 Well Poland uses 3kV DC and they are, AFAIK, not converting anytime soon and large parts of Ukraine already use 25kV AC. So the conversion will happen the east (but it will be more like building from scratch) and on some lines crossing Carpathian mountains.
Trunk lines should already be electrified (but maybe it was damaged during current war). They have already talked about regauging during the summer, but if I remember it correctly, it will take decades to do so. And I would guess that they will go for something like Vectron and TRAXX and current fleet will be used on remaining broad gauge lines. Some private companies, on the other hand, could go for used locomotives like ČD Class 242 and ČD Class 230 or maybe some "newer" ČD Class 3xx which are able to operate on both 3kV DC and 25kV AC. Ukrainians already have some Czechoslovak locomotives that were build around the same time as classes 242 and 230, so it should be easy for them to use them. As well there is chance that they could buy ČD Class 380 from ČD as those are slowly replaced by Tauruses or Vectrons and are quite new, some 15 years old and can already operate in Poland and Slovakia. So if they would expand standard gauge to Kovel and either regauge or rebuild, as mixed gauge, to Lviv, those locos could easily serve there for another 15-30 years.
@@MrToradragon Honestly that's what I would expect. Poland is building new high-speed lines at 25kv AC, but I don't think Poland will start looking at conversion much until Czech Republic and Slovakia complete their conversion programs.
However, there is currently a break of gauge between Ukraine and its (friendly) neighbors, meaning trains are mostly unable to run onto the Polish network anyway. It would be more beneficial to Ukraine to be able to eliminate its internal voltage incompatibility, with the need for locomotive or unit changes and differing maintenance supplies. Unless, that is, they do plan to convert their rail gauge to European standard.
@@andrewreynolds4949 I don't think that Poland will convert their system on other lines as the country is mostly flat and thus trains, even heavy freight one, require only minimal input. How fast will be conversion in Czechia and Slovakia is still open question, not only because of current situation, but as well because original plans were made years ago and invertor technology had advanced significantly. Just few months ago two inverter stations were put in service and oer 40 km stretch of line was switched to 25 kV. Those inverters solve problems with unbalanced load caused by trains so now the railway is not constrained by 110 kV grid tat is currently biggest constraint in many places as some sections would be unable to handle unbalanced load from AC locomotives, but can supply enough power to rectifier stations which loads phases evenly. Once they will sort out two other problems related to power distribution there is nothing that could stop fast conversion to AC. There already are proposals for split phase power supply to be used, that would be total game changer.
I would say, based on Open Railway Maps, that war had already solved the issue with electrification. DC was mostly in eastern part of the country, so most of the infrastructure is most likely already gone or severely damaged.
I have addressed issues arising from break of gauge in several comments here. There are transloading facilities in Slovakia, Poland and Hungary that need modernization and so do lines of both gauges that lead to them. As well they plan, or at least talk about, conversion to standard gauge. But there still will be quite long period when Ukraine will use two gauges (unless gremlin from Kremlin will go nuclear) so access to transloading facilities will be needed. So there will be some period of time when awkward dual gauge lines will exist at least between Poland and Ukraine and during first few years, most likely, they would suffice with second hand locomotives and rolling stock.
One thing I don't see them giving up is wider loading gauge that they have. That will be permanent constraint in the future, but perhaps some lines in EU will be made to accommodate wider rolling stock as well.
Railways are vital in wartime. Good to hear Ukraine's are holding up. I did wonder if we needed to send locomotives to help out, but it would depend on how long re gauging them locally would take.
Thanks, but so far there are not big problems with locomotives.
Of course the old rolling stock will have to be changed, so thanks for the offer, but is not required urgently, so don't worry about it for now:)
Well we had a lot of old steam locomotives back in 2010s, as they said us in school "for wartime" but I haven't heard about these for years now.
Maybe there is not a lot of sence in them without Donbass's coal.
@@HZeshka The problem with steam locomotives is that they need a soft water, otherwise the boiler will be covered with scale and the steam locomotive will not go far)
In addition he needs to replenish supplies of coal and engine oil. Therefore is much easier to use diesel locomotives :)
Great video.
Thank you!
this is a good quality video! Glory to Ukrzaliznitsia. Most of EU/US even don't realize how big Ukraine is in the territory and it's meaning to world economics.
Still, Ukrzaliznitsia had a lot of problems with depreciation and the Soviet legacy management system, but each year it's moving forward
Thank you, Railway Explained for the research and the statistics.
Truth, damned Truth and Statistics!
Impressive story... excellently done 😉
Thank you!
No wonder today's news is talking about Lyman getting back control by the Ukrainian force. It's the train hub of the Donbass region... Now we get the point.
do you see the baltics and poland shifting to the european gauge mid- to longterm? It would be a massive investment and I guess take a minimum of 2 decades but It might be worth it longterm.
the baltic countries are now implementing rail baltika
by European gauge do you mean standard gauge 1435mm
Poland has standard gauge ever since the start. There's only one line from Ukraine with Russian broad gauge.
Rail Baltica will only add a new standard gauge line towards Poland but not convert existing braod gauge lines.
@@Schnaitheimer in fact, the Baltic rail will replace the main routes of those countries, and from it they will gradually rebuild the railway there, after all, there are not so many routes.
@@Garner84
There's several parts; track gauge, loading gauge, electrical, signally systems.
Glory to Ukrainian Railways!
Glory to Ukraine! 🇺🇦
Thanks.
Glory to the heroes.
hopefully this is a kickstart to boost construction
Your guys are heroes. Excellent video thanks. I'm a British model rail fan. Sláva Ukraini! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
you just called these people heros for talking about how important logistics and the rail system is to Ukraine. The war is still going on, buddy. are they heros or are they using the news to get viral content and potentially hurt ukraine? Do you have half of a goddamned brain?
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Героям слава!)
@@ДмитрийБ-м1х залупе слава
THE MORAL OF THIS STORY IS-
IF YOU FUCK WITH THE RAILROADS AND THE RAILROADER
YOU SCREW YOUR OWN SELF!!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
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Informative and interesting video! 👍
I travelled by train across unoccupied Ukraine back in October, and I have to say that UZ have been doing an incredible job in keeping the trains running on time. Out of the six trains that I took, the longest delay (on arrival) was only six minutes! The longest train ride that I had (14h13) actually arrived two minutes early. So, I raise my proverbial hat to Ukrzaliznytsia for running trains more or less according to schedule under these very difficult circumstances.
BTW: Ukrzaliznytsia, or Ukrainska Zaliznytsia, actually translates to Ukrainian Railway, not Railways; but even on their official website, they use the "incorrect" plural form (in English) instead of the singular one, so go figure.
Damn, great ending!
Quite interesting to see how our Railways are working. Sorry, but I want to correct you a little, don't use the russian names for our cities please (ex. Kyiv* not "Kiev"). Thanks for that video, quite informative)
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0:48 Old map now.
I'd really like to see your opinion on how Russian rollingstock is breaking down under the cut off of Swiss and German machine parts. How much time do you give them before were looking at WW1 type industrial collapse?
The Russians big problem is roller bearings.
Prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union these were supplied from Kharkiv.
After the 2022 invasion every single country making heavy duty bearings cut off supplies to Russia.
Sweden was previously the major non-aligned bearing manufacturing country (via SKF).
@@alexandrep4913 Russia did collapse in 1991 (and 1917).
Europe has been propping it up and cleaning up the mess Russia made of Eastern Europe ever since.
Russia has had a problem with incompetent and/or corrupt “strong” leaders for centuries but still has twigged. Leaders have a shelf life - Putin and his cronies are past theirs.
@UCh2SkjkVSiAQEC3gZHWE59Q Actual quality bearings were made in Kharkiv.
The Soviet Union imported bearings from SKF for its entire existence - and Russia did until April this year. Russian trains run on either JSC Kharkov or SKF bearings (or used to).
@Kenneth It is better to see how it will be situation in Germany and Swiss during december 2023 without Russian gas and fertilizer. It will be really cold and belly empty.
Real life hunger games.
Kind regards.
fun fact: russia as mentioned not only uses the same rail gauge (as they originally built it), but they also have a whole wing of their military dedicated to train and rail based logistics.
Yes, they called it "railway forces". )))
Well, the “railway force” are lacking in Russia to say it mildly
@@andmos1001 more lacking then the other guy? doesnt seem like it.
Russians didn't built the ukrainian railways.. It was the Ukrainian SSR.. I dunno why people always confuses the Soviet Union with Russia..
@@nazarmartyniv4484 on their own huh?
Go to 13:02 if you want to see the title topic
Great video, so informative!
I believe the name of the channel is superalbs travel, not superlabs
Yes it is, we made a mistake...
Even Ukraine with ageing rail infrastructure and rolling stock moves far more people per year than Amtrak in the US, although that's because Ukraine has a higher population density than the US but then I remember that Russia is far larger than the US and has less people and rail travel seems to be much more popular there than here :(
EXCUSES!!!! Ukraine runs more frequent and USEFUL TRAINS!!!!!USA runs worthless once a day land cruises and has the audacity to call it service.
@@qjtvaddict The short distance routes are alright.
Ukraine tickets on trains and city transport are the cheapest in the world. For example, nowadays the ticket for 1 trip in Kyiv metro, tram, bus and trolley-bus costs only 8 UAH = 0,2 USD. This is the state of real socialism in a good sense of this word....
@@TheOlgaSasha Here in the US if I travel from my city to Santa Barbara on Amtrak, it costs me $50 round trip. And that's 66 miles or over 100 kilometers in distance.
@@AlexCab_49 Last week I went from Kyiv to Chernigiv (almost 200 km) by Skoda Intercity Express (Skoda EJ675) in 2nd class . It costed 164 UAH (4 USD). It is rather comfortable Czech doubledecker train for such price.
It's an open (not so public) secret: Why do foreign and domestic politicians come to the battlefield by train, because in the composition of the train they arrive, they bring military logistics: planes, tanks, cannons, ordnance, means of communication, fuel, etc. The head of Russia knows this fact and knows the exact route in detail. However, all corrupt politicians are of no value to me, and therefore the law on forcible detention should be followed. Whereas ordinary people who think for themselves have an inestimable value for me. That is why the common man should be protected from corrupt politicians.( the critically thinking )
Imagine the airlift If the antonov 225 wasnt destroyed and Gostomel wasnt bombed.
But the railway workers importance cannot be denied, they are indeed the second army.
We have our own An-225, this is VL-82M.
He is recently released along with Kupyansk. Real railroad monster.
That wouldn't matter, because airspace is closed anyway
@@masterman1502 closed to civilian flights, not military ones
Ukraine has two more airports in Kyiv alone and the An-225 isn't really suitable for military flights
@@ДмитрийБ-м1х ВЛ82м, еще и универсальный локомотив, может ездить как под постоянным током так и переменным)
Railway companies should not be expected to be profitable the same way roads aren't expected to make profit directly, they are an integral part of the infrastructure, and investment into them will always pay off in development and an increased revenue in other sectors of the economy.
Change the gauge as quick as possible - i.e. if 2 tracks exist sacrifice one immediately and convert to EU standards, from the EU borders inward. The sooner the better as EU stock could be used before Ukraine gets it's own. And the other benefit is Russia can't use any of the new lines. As soon as one line is converted pull up the 2nd track, this should be a priority!
Russian gauge is broader than European standard gauge, so it’s a matter of taking the rails inward. No need to sacrifice the width of the second track, they gain extra width instead. Conversion probably won’t happen until after the war
@@andrewreynolds4949 yes but if the rail is just moved inwards, it could be moved just as easily back to its original position..... whereas new sleepers (concrete) would be a whole different ballgame! And any track now in Ukrainian hands at the border needs to be destroyed for a couple of miles!
@@andrewreynolds4949 How you will move rail inwards on concrete sleepers? It has holes that will interfere with the rail and 3rd rail is not an option, or at leas not in sense that you would add 3rd R65 (type of rail used in former USSR), or any other type, next to reach other. Those gauges are too close. So you either need at leas tone track to be converted and so will need to be given half of each station, to standard gauge, or you will need special gauntlet track to be build. And once you will hit the station, it will be pain in the ass (switches). So I would say that one-one, half-half is best option for now. If there is enough spare sleepers in Europe, even if they are old.
@@wino99999 Both the Germans and Soviets had a lot of trouble in WW2 with moving every bit of rail that small distance as they advanced, despite concrete sleepers not being much of a thing compared to wooden sleepers. Destroying track at the border is a problem in areas where Ukraine intends to advance; it would hinder them there nearly as much as it would Russia. I'm guessing there have already been efforts elsewhere to hinder rail links across the border. It doesn't even have to be anywhere near a mile's worth; a single relatively short length of track is very hard to repair while under fire and would greatly hinder Russia's ability to advance large forces for long enough to make a difference.
I assume any large-scale gauge conversion in Ukraine would be after this conflict ends, since any such significant disruption to the supply chain would be massively detrimental to Ukraine's war effort. It will also have to be on a tight budget, given the massive strain the war is putting on the Ukrainian economy.
@@MrToradragon Not with concrete sleepers, but I have seen plenty of pictures and footage with wooden sleepers in Ukraine. It will keep down costs in most places, which is important given the economic strain Ukraine will have by the time the war ends.
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I don't know if this is relevant at this point, but it would be wise for Ukraine to change gauge size of its rail network to Europe standard, for two reasons first to cut Russia of from using it, second if Ukraina wants to be close to Europe, it will solve a lot of problems in logistics
Looking forward to Putin & CO being gone/irrelevant, so there can be peace once again
Facts about that countries, both Russia and Ukraine, they both never bought trains or Rolling Stock from either China or Japan, anyone know why? even Russia itself chose Germany via Siemens to build the high-speed rail
Whiteism. Most people around the world still think white European (including descendant) do things better even thought that's not the case in many area
I think this is because these countries supplied themselves with rolling stock for a long time during the soviet union, and carried over those industries. China and Japan also weren't large exporters until recently. Both, and especially Japan have different rail gauges, which complicates matters. Siemens on the other hand specializes in international export.
Well, Poland is building now HSR network w/o German support.
There will be HSR line (1435 mm) connecting Warsaw and Kyiv. CPK is working on the project of the Polish part for now.
Poland can share technology with Ukrainians. CPK has already promised to help Ukrainians. And Ukrainians started cooperation with Poland.
Polish companies like PESA and Newag can build trains. In addition, there are several international companies with factories in Poland.
in the USSR, the production of trains was well established, and as they wanted modern ones, they turned to the Europeans due to the established ties of the old when Japan and China were not so successful in the construction of trains. If we take the whole of Asia, then Ukraine bought Korean trains from Hyundai Rotem.
The Soviets (and maybe Russians, too) _did_ buy a small amount of rolling stock from Japan for use on the Sakhalin Railway, which was 3'6" gauge until 2019
These is where rail transport in the US, being run and created by private companies allowed for the creation of multiple railroads serving one area, or even on industry. Which is superior in terms of redundancy and prices. Second, it's bizarre how whole railroad lines and branches in Ukraine are owned by one company.... Seems like that is just asking for trouble and unnecessary complexity...
All rail transport in a country being owned by 1 (often state owned) company has long been the norm in most of Europe. I fail to see how this could lead to “complexity” compared to the American situation.
@@timpauwels3734 The network itself will be more complex in terms of structure, the systems for remote control will be more complex and there is good chance that you will have only one good line serving given route and the rest will be, well bit outdated.
It depends, both approaches have merit. It’s an idea of integrated planning for efficiency vs competition for better market reach. Both have flaws too, like too much competition for too little potential business or a centralized system holding a monopoly and stagnating in some areas
@@andrewreynolds4949 One huge advantage of privately owned system is that it can run through several states without any need for changes of locomotive or crew as the signalling is the same and regulation is as well.
@@MrToradragon That depends on whether there is a standard on control systems and infrastructure. To be fair, the EU is trying to implement such new standards. In Britain the original private rail companies all built to different loading gauges (and occasionally different track gauges as well), which could make traffic interchange difficult and has caused problems for the system as a whole since then
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Thank you!
Starts at 13:00 to save you time
Actually it is private joint stock company, and as far as i know fully owned by government
Where did you get this migration statistic? 100-200k fled to russia, not 2.3m.
That number most likely includes those deported and forcefolly moved to Russia from the occupied territories
So how does one meet rail buffs from Ukraine? This video was very interesting. It's got me interested in their 5 foot gauge railways.
If you are interested in this topic, you can check our video gauge-changing trains.
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The EU needs to step up and support the Ukraine by helping to convert the Ukrainen Railroads to EU standard guage so as to deneigh the russians from using it.
That is true, but that will not help with this war. Best thing the Ukraine can do now is to remove any line running to Russia and Belarus, they have control over. That ill deny access as well and reconstruction of line is not easy task to be done during war. But once war is over, it surely should be done.
0:40 why the f* you show Crimea as part of Russia?
Initially very tedious but got much better. I suspect the employees have heroically repaired track. And there are any number of backwater tracks cunningly operated. I have been astounded by overseas leaders using it.
How is the rail width in China and on all BRI-Lines from China appart ? Is it European standard gauge with something around 140 cm or Sowjet broad gauge with around 150 cm ? Ukraine has Sowjet gauge. If Ukraine would be merged into EU space, perhaps Ukrainian rail lines may be changed to european normal width. And if China expands its BRI Lines through south east Europe (Ukraine, Turkey etc.) will european or sowjet gauge be used ?
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One of the first laws pushed by Zelinsky was to open the ownership of farming land to foreign companies. Immediately, many multinational US based companies bought... 30% of these lands. And they continue...
And now when we talk of "cereal exports blocked by Russia", we are talking of Monsanto / gates / Bayer goods that are blocked...
Brilliant, thank you... Well done.
You said a lot of true things, but there were some mistakes, for example, Yes, the Russian army is based on Railway logistics and although it uses it, however, at this time, due to military failures, it is trying to disrupt Ukrainian logistics, namely: cruise missile strikes on the bridge in Zatoka ( Odessa region ), a bridge on the Dnieper in the city of Cherkassy, strikes on traction stations (electric substations of the railway) in the West of the country, several strikes on tunnels, and strikes on marshalling yards. Traction stations are being repaired very quickly and Russia has lost interest in them.
Slava Ukraine, Slava the railroad workers of Ukraine.
Cargo200 for the win.
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И всё это было отстроено во времена СССР!
Да, руками украинских робочих
Ох вєлікає наслєдіє сафка, ох єсліби нє савок!
It's very unfortunate that Ukraine liberalised its national railway into a public company, this has been catastrophic for service quality in Germany, the UK and others. The neoliberal nature of the modern EU is unfortunately very problematic.
I wouldn't say it's unfortunate, the branding is better, plus competition is possible. Before that, railways here were in decline and disrepair much more
The railway company is fully owned by the state though
@@kosmosdemon The same goes for Germany, but you shouldn't run a railway to be profitable, it's paart of the critical infrastructure. Railways don't need to make money because they generate revenue in so many other areas of the economy.
@@masterman1502 In Germany and the UK the brand of the railways suffered extremely under liberalisation. While you could once set your clock by the train arrivals in Germany, now the DB has become unreliablity personified and everyone at least takes an hour buffer to account for delays in long distance trains.
The mismanagement to be profitable was so bad that Berlin had a years long commuter rail crisis, where at some points of time less trains were operational then right after WWII.
And in almost every other area the the service has suffered, too, many tracks and switches were removed, companies were disconnected or disconnected from freight rail because of the service quality and much more.
Now DB is profitable but at what cost to the wider German economy?
In the meantime it works quite good in Czechia. But we went for full separation of tracks and trains so České Dráhy (state train operator) has no stakes in Správa Železnic that "owns" the tracks. (Technically tracks are owned by the Czech Republic and SŽ only take care about maintenance and expansion) And it works well, in fact so well that demand for capacity is much greater than available capacity and it seems like even if currently proposed projects will be done, it still will not be enough.
As Ukrainian I approve this video.
Thank you for your work.
It is important that all people can't serve in army because things like this have to be done.
I love my railways! I do not greet westernization, I like when it's made by my country, our hands, how would you feel when you made something with your golden hands? That's exactly what I want, my country with Ukrainian railways. Respect to Luhanskteplovoz and Kryukivskiy Vabonny Zavod!
Thanks for the video. Let's hope the situation in Ukraine improves. One day they might just have a high speed rail line 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
when things settle down, Ukraine should regauge their rails to standard instead of the same as russian broad gauge.
12:00 Why the hell is Crimea marked diffrently from the rest of Ukraine???
This is just a map showing planed construction projects on a rough and simplified map. Calm down please.
Can always take your army and force RR and Russia to recognize your claim
It's because Crimea is it's own republic under the Russian Federation since at least 2013 that is why.
Crimea Railways is also officially seperate from Ukrainian Railways PJSC as it is owned by the Russian Railways company...
@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials Stop trolling, Crimea is Ukranian
@@wouterke9871 I'm not trolling, they voted to become a part of the "Russian Federation" wether you agree with the outcome or not or believe that the election was fraudulent, that doesn't matter, what does is that the land is controlled by the Russian Federation and not the Ukrainian Government so feel free to stay salty.
I'm not a Russiaphile but I have my suspicions that your still crying that Russia won the 2008 Russo-Georgian War by being able to continue their sphere of influence on the region as far west as BIH and as far east as Khazakstan.
Who is the author of this video? Ukraine might desperately need diesel electrics as an emergency measure if there will be constant blackouts and electricity supply problems. Poland does make a hybrid that takes power from overhead plus from diesel as required. NSW in Australia is dumping 19 diesel electric power units known as XPT with the decline in rural passengers. Not sure that Poland and Germany rapidly adding Russian gauge line is mentioned which is possibly critical and a reverse of previous policies of ensuring the gauges to Russia and Ukraine and the changeover difficult for a Soviet invasion. If you can bring the possible need for diesel electrics and the existence of the Polish hyrbids to the attention of someone in Ukraine as a possible prudent emergency measure that might be helpful to Ukraine.
Next Sudan Railways. Ok
This will not run in near future 💥🔥
Masterworks can't mean much good for the art market, but its pretty f'ed already soo..
also glory to the railway workers of Ukraine
Вельмі цікава. Спадзяюся што ў невялікай будучыні Беларуская Чыгунка і Укрзалізніца будуць зноў працаваць разам
сподівайся, але такого у наступні 100 років не буде
Ukraine armored train carrying HIMARS and GPS Guided big guns?
Sounds interesting:)
then russia just destroys the rail...
@@operator9858 It won't help them:)))
@@operator9858 That because Putin's goons failed to achieve any military victory beyond dispuited Don basins past the first planned Three Days and thus Putin Russians had to resort to vicious means-total war.
I'm not sure if Old Soviets kept any armored trains anywhere in Ukraine and forgot to haul these back when Soviets disintegrated ? or if Lugansk Factory can build any armored train armed with HIMARS and GPS guided artillery and Iron Dome system?
Доволі цікаве відео.
Выключил после картики на 0:38 секунде. Это мягко сказать - ложь . В Польше минимум 4 миллиона украинцев, а в россии +- 250 - 300 тысяч ! Автор не мог случайно завысить цифры в 10 раз !
Russia is throwing its disinformation into the information space and the author probably picked it up.