Prime meliodas is probably my favourite character ever in anything the potential is immense. It is the personified, humanified, mortalified version of his darkness
That’s one thing that pissed me off . They never gave him an actual backstory when he was evil and feared. Like his first reaction with Elizabeth , did he attack her ? ??
I'm wondering that too! We get one panel of them interacting, and I have got to assume "Kill the goddesses" Meliodas attacked first, but at the same time, he's apathetic by the point of their meeting, but maybe not? Too many questions!
@@thatguywithapencil I like to have the headcanon that Meliodas charged at her without another thought and she just does Ark and pushes him back constantly until he's too exhausted to talk from all the Arks and being blown away. He probably saw Elizabeth as the first goddess that did not have the intent to kill and would be too embarrassed that he was pushed around by a goddess clan member despite being the leader of the 10 commandments. Eventually, he would get to talk to her, asking her about her motivation, why she even wanted to help despite the war between the two clans. And so on and so forth
@@shantiyadav3660 I'm not saying she would do any lasting damage. Considering Escanor could do near fatal damage and Zeldris healed quickly after that, I have no doubt he would not have too much damage. But we also don't actually know what Elizabeth's unique magic was. As a goddess she did have Ark magic, but we never learnt if she had something more that added on to the backstory of the name of Bloodstained Ellie
He probably did since he knew her as bloody ellie she has that pure effect on people. So that definitely nerfed Meliodas in their clash. Since it reduces his negativity/cold nature
Demon King : *I am your father, you shall obey me.* Teenage Meliodas : Or what old man, you gonna curse the love of my life to be reincarnated forever or something?! Buzz off! Demon King : *Now that you've given me the idea...*
I agree, there's so much to explore with Meliodas 3,000 years ago. In general the holy war has left a lot of questions unanswered in my opinion. For example Chandler and Cusack. Why were they absent from the holy war? To resist the temptation turning back into the original demon? Were they doing something else to contribute to the war off screen? Were they not allowed to fight because of their punishment? Also Grayroad, where was she? Did Gowther's spell unintentionally affect her too? Cause it doesn't make any sense for her to suddenly be a commandment when the seal broke but then to seemingly not exist during the holy war. And I aware that we only saw the war through the perspective of Gloxinia and Drole, but that's just it. Why couldn't we see the war as a whole? Cause I feel like these questions could have been answered if we did
That's what always irked me about things like Gowther's lover, Bloodstained Ellie, Merlin loving Meliodas, a lot of that honestly sounds way too interesting to be as short as they were shown/mentioned. I mean, we saw more from Rou and Gerheade ffs
Exactly, all those concepts were essentially set dressing when they are their own could have been their own unique stories! Even if not much longer, they needed more time.
I concur! It would be great to finally see something opposite to the Meliodas we know, when it was actually Meliodas. We've seen a emotionless Meliodas, but that one was not natural.
@That Guy With A Pencil I hear ya, it bothered me too. Meliodas being one of my favorite characters, seeing how ruthless and cold he could be made me want to see an arc about him. Such a shame we didn’t get one. Buuuuutt on the bright side since I am making a manga myself, this helps me see what the fans want from a character, and story. I hope I can deliver on that regard. I don’t want to waste such vast potential like evil Meliodas, unfortunately 🥲 Super glad you talked on this subject TGWAP! Petition for Meliodas arc!
@@thatguywithapencil Haha thank you! I’m looking forward you to explaining possibly the most diverse power system since nen, I look forward to seeing a video on that when my manga gets published!
Ay, thank you! YES! Meliodas sparring with the Commandments and in battle would be amazing to see, since his nature is so different from the modern era!
I'm a simple man. I see a TGWAP video, I click. This was a really interesting video though. It could've been at least one anime season in length, and I think it would have done a lot to increase the investment for the reader/viewer.
I'm a simple man. I see a comment like this, and I fight back tears of joy. Though I agree, getting a better understanding of the world and our characters' pasts would have done great to bolster investment and care. It feels like we were teased with something super interesting.
I would like how he became the leader of the 10 camandments was it his choice and kicked the old leader out or did they have a tournament to see who is the top 10 strongest demon 😂 and why did meliodas fall in love with Elizabeth not gana say but there is few demons that meliodas could of chosen. And what was his power lvl in his prime I know his power lvl is past 200k
True! It would be cool learning about his ascension. Zeldris was made leader because his brother left, we don’t know how Meliodas got the role. That’s something I want to see too! We fall right into the middle of their love, we don’t get to see it develop. That honestly makes me wonder if they even knew about combat classes back then.
I honestly was thinking about writing a story about the past, since Nakaba never did. Could be fun! Wasted Potential will be a series though, there are so many things I want to talk about!
Ban, you're right, but I honestly want to see more character interactions. Learn more about group dynamics in the past considering they changed a lot. Actually get more time of them being legendary knights due to how important that is for their worldwide perception in season one. Also, not really for just the Sins, but honestly just to see what the world and its stance was back then.
Elizabeth did some talk no jutsu with prime meliodas, Which made meliodas fall in love with Elizabeth. That's how everything happened, the reason meliodas felt a hole world of pain is because she bitched slaped him after he bullied estarosa and zeldris
That's actually pretty likely. We know Elizabeth does have emotional manipulation strong enough to override Supreme Rank Demon Orders, so its highly possible she empathetically smacked him into submission.
This is one of the reasons I lost interest in seven deadly sins Right after finishing the manga I realised there were so many arcs in SDS which could've been added to make the story more interesting like a proper introduction of all clans and the major battles when meliodas was the leader of the 10 commadments It's just feels sudden All characters die meaningless deaths They should atleast have some reson like the deaths in Naruto shippuden
I think the story does need a bit more meat to it, and I think that's the cost of dropping us into a fully developed world rather than a growing one. We're sort of plopped in the middle of a story that we can't see all of because we don't have time. I'm find with the cost, but I do want more. And I have a weird stance on SDS deaths. I think the false sense of security set up by the meaningless deaths make the actual deaths land much harder. Fraudrin, Escanor, heck even Zaratras' second on screen death (but mostly Escanor) actually managed to land because they died and stayed dead. The emptiness left by their deaths works for me.
They never wanted to make this series work. The animations,the promotions and the entire season 3 story line is disgustingly sabotaged. Just imagine the manga was adapted like Naruto with the fillers, the prequel,the sequel are the formula of great animes.
Its a 50/50 between him and Elizabeth. Most people, myself included, lean towards Elizabeth because we saw her pull up on a Meliodas in Assault Mode, while Mael pulled up and ran from a Demon Mark Meliodas. We haven't seen the full extent of either, which is the main issue.
The escanor vs meliodas fight what if meliodas died in that state because we see he still cered for Elizabeth and he still wanted to brake the seal if he had died then would he be back to normal his original self
He's also called the goddess clan strongest fighter, but it's honestly up in the air for now. She wasn't even one of the Four Archangels, but managed to hold off two Indura at once while Ludociel, who is normally stronger than Mael up to late noon couldn't even handle one. Meanwhile Mael just has statements and his one offscreen fight where he ran from. It honestly depends.
@@thatguywithapencil I don't know man the whole godess clan commited mass suicide after they thought that they lost mael while still having meliodas and elizabeth.If elizabeth was the strongest she would have been picked for the swap.
I thought that too, but look at AM Mel with Zel in chapter 271. He looks just as cold and indifferent as he does in Demon Mark while in Assault Mode. That what leads me to believe there is a whole offscreen character shift.
I highly doubt it. Now that we are in Four Knights there is no reason for Nakaba to regress. Especially since he said Seven Deadly Sins is the story of Meliodas, and thus he believes he doesn't need a heavier backstory chapter.
I'm honestly shocked that Meliodas was not the Demon King's Representative, even not for a short period of time. Though you're right, I wonder how his original magic and his father's magic would interact.
@@thatguywithapencil I always thought that he didn’t need the Demons king power because he was strong enough as it is so the demon king gave it to Zeldris to even out the 10 commandments
Prime meliodas is probably my favourite character ever in anything the potential is immense. It is the personified, humanified, mortalified version of his darkness
You're right. It's basically if Meliodas gave into his demonic stereotype and never changed.
That’s one thing that pissed me off . They never gave him an actual backstory when he was evil and feared. Like his first reaction with Elizabeth , did he attack her ? ??
I'm wondering that too! We get one panel of them interacting, and I have got to assume "Kill the goddesses" Meliodas attacked first, but at the same time, he's apathetic by the point of their meeting, but maybe not? Too many questions!
@@thatguywithapencil I like to have the headcanon that Meliodas charged at her without another thought and she just does Ark and pushes him back constantly until he's too exhausted to talk from all the Arks and being blown away. He probably saw Elizabeth as the first goddess that did not have the intent to kill and would be too embarrassed that he was pushed around by a goddess clan member despite being the leader of the 10 commandments. Eventually, he would get to talk to her, asking her about her motivation, why she even wanted to help despite the war between the two clans. And so on and so forth
@@agenti4734it is good theory except the fact that prime meliodas can play with mael and ludociel Elizabeth ain't doing shit to him
@@shantiyadav3660 I'm not saying she would do any lasting damage. Considering Escanor could do near fatal damage and Zeldris healed quickly after that, I have no doubt he would not have too much damage. But we also don't actually know what Elizabeth's unique magic was. As a goddess she did have Ark magic, but we never learnt if she had something more that added on to the backstory of the name of Bloodstained Ellie
He probably did since he knew her as bloody ellie she has that pure effect on people. So that definitely nerfed Meliodas in their clash. Since it reduces his negativity/cold nature
Can you imagine the demon king trying to discipline meliodas and meliodas is just talking back in the most disrespectful manner.
Demon King : *I am your father, you shall obey me.*
Teenage Meliodas : Or what old man, you gonna curse the love of my life to be reincarnated forever or something?! Buzz off!
Demon King : *Now that you've given me the idea...*
I agree, there's so much to explore with Meliodas 3,000 years ago. In general the holy war has left a lot of questions unanswered in my opinion. For example Chandler and Cusack. Why were they absent from the holy war? To resist the temptation turning back into the original demon? Were they doing something else to contribute to the war off screen? Were they not allowed to fight because of their punishment?
Also Grayroad, where was she? Did Gowther's spell unintentionally affect her too? Cause it doesn't make any sense for her to suddenly be a commandment when the seal broke but then to seemingly not exist during the holy war. And I aware that we only saw the war through the perspective of Gloxinia and Drole, but that's just it. Why couldn't we see the war as a whole? Cause I feel like these questions could have been answered if we did
Prime Meliodas is my fav character, he was so baddass bro😭
HE WAS JUST DIFFERENT!
That's what always irked me about things like Gowther's lover, Bloodstained Ellie, Merlin loving Meliodas, a lot of that honestly sounds way too interesting to be as short as they were shown/mentioned. I mean, we saw more from Rou and Gerheade ffs
Honestly I thought that Merlin Meliodas storyline was kinda forced in
Exactly, all those concepts were essentially set dressing when they are their own could have been their own unique stories! Even if not much longer, they needed more time.
I honestly think nakaba just didn’t want to write that long of a manga lol.
Yh we need the emotionless meliodas backstory definitely sometimes nabaka annoys me because he focuses to much on love all the time
I concur! It would be great to finally see something opposite to the Meliodas we know, when it was actually Meliodas. We've seen a emotionless Meliodas, but that one was not natural.
@That Guy With A Pencil I hear ya, it bothered me too. Meliodas being one of my favorite characters, seeing how ruthless and cold he could be made me want to see an arc about him. Such a shame we didn’t get one.
Buuuuutt on the bright side since I am making a manga myself, this helps me see what the fans want from a character, and story. I hope I can deliver on that regard. I don’t want to waste such vast potential like evil Meliodas, unfortunately 🥲
Super glad you talked on this subject TGWAP! Petition for Meliodas arc!
It is sad, but we gotta live with it.
I wish you the best of luck on your manga! I can't wait to read it!
I'm glad you enjoyed!
@@thatguywithapencil Haha thank you! I’m looking forward you to explaining possibly the most diverse power system since nen, I look forward to seeing a video on that when my manga gets published!
Nakaba has said he would expand on it in untold stories
Now I just patiently wait for them.
When does he have a release date for it
@@igneellinde4123 there was no date he just mentioned it
@@princeofthelake how long ago was it and can u be bro and do me a solid and send me the link
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284(Q311): Do you have plans to draw the encounter between Meliodas and Elizabeth from 3,000 years ago?
-I'll properly draw it!
Wow like this is a good explanation
But what i would like to see is how meliodas trained the commandments and how he acted against his opponents
Ay, thank you!
YES! Meliodas sparring with the Commandments and in battle would be amazing to see, since his nature is so different from the modern era!
I'm a simple man. I see a TGWAP video, I click.
This was a really interesting video though. It could've been at least one anime season in length, and I think it would have done a lot to increase the investment for the reader/viewer.
I'm a simple man. I see a comment like this, and I fight back tears of joy.
Though I agree, getting a better understanding of the world and our characters' pasts would have done great to bolster investment and care. It feels like we were teased with something super interesting.
I would like how he became the leader of the 10 camandments was it his choice and kicked the old leader out or did they have a tournament to see who is the top 10 strongest demon 😂 and why did meliodas fall in love with Elizabeth not gana say but there is few demons that meliodas could of chosen. And what was his power lvl in his prime I know his power lvl is past 200k
True! It would be cool learning about his ascension. Zeldris was made leader because his brother left, we don’t know how Meliodas got the role. That’s something I want to see too! We fall right into the middle of their love, we don’t get to see it develop. That honestly makes me wonder if they even knew about combat classes back then.
Prime meliodas power level was basically 280k
I noticed prime meliodas sword look like the dragon slayer from berserk which is badass and fit his pilot version of him.
you should turn this wasted potential idea into a series that would be so dope
I’m turning it into a manga, does that count?
I honestly was thinking about writing a story about the past, since Nakaba never did. Could be fun! Wasted Potential will be a series though, there are so many things I want to talk about!
I wanted more about the sins when they were holy knights of liones
That's another wasted potential video! (Though I 100% agree)
Im iffy on that one. We saw some stuff but all they did was low diff targets and get drunk
Ban, you're right, but I honestly want to see more character interactions. Learn more about group dynamics in the past considering they changed a lot. Actually get more time of them being legendary knights due to how important that is for their worldwide perception in season one. Also, not really for just the Sins, but honestly just to see what the world and its stance was back then.
@@thatguywithapencil if it was when they where holy knights back then would meliodas still have a power lvl of 32,500
Elizabeth did some talk no jutsu with prime meliodas, Which made meliodas fall in love with Elizabeth. That's how everything happened, the reason meliodas felt a hole world of pain is because she bitched slaped him after he bullied estarosa and zeldris
That's actually pretty likely. We know Elizabeth does have emotional manipulation strong enough to override Supreme Rank Demon Orders, so its highly possible she empathetically smacked him into submission.
This is one of the reasons I lost interest in seven deadly sins
Right after finishing the manga I realised there were so many arcs in SDS which could've been added to make the story more interesting like a proper introduction of all clans and the major battles when meliodas was the leader of the 10 commadments
It's just feels sudden
All characters die meaningless deaths
They should atleast have some reson like the deaths in Naruto shippuden
I think the story does need a bit more meat to it, and I think that's the cost of dropping us into a fully developed world rather than a growing one. We're sort of plopped in the middle of a story that we can't see all of because we don't have time. I'm find with the cost, but I do want more.
And I have a weird stance on SDS deaths. I think the false sense of security set up by the meaningless deaths make the actual deaths land much harder. Fraudrin, Escanor, heck even Zaratras' second on screen death (but mostly Escanor) actually managed to land because they died and stayed dead. The emptiness left by their deaths works for me.
Prime meliodas has my favourite look of all meliodas clothes
I respect that. I like his king outfit the most, but his Prime self is also quite snazzy.
can you do a matchup with Gadjah (Black Clover) and Gilthunder ( Seven Deadly Sins)
Once I read Black Clover, I got you!
My fav version and it was wasted 💀
i really want to have it and i was angry it was not in the main series who cares about the sequel , i just want to see it
I care about the sequel, but I care about this too! Nakaba, bring it out of the vault!
Exactly
Thank you! I WANT IT NAKABA!
They never wanted to make this series work. The animations,the promotions and the entire season 3 story line is disgustingly sabotaged. Just imagine the manga was adapted like Naruto with the fillers, the prequel,the sequel are the formula of great animes.
I'd love some SDS filler, which feels weird to say.
I thought Mael was the strongest member of the goddess race
Its a 50/50 between him and Elizabeth. Most people, myself included, lean towards Elizabeth because we saw her pull up on a Meliodas in Assault Mode, while Mael pulled up and ran from a Demon Mark Meliodas. We haven't seen the full extent of either, which is the main issue.
Does 7ds have a databook
They exist, but they are not translated or really even freely available raw online. You need to hunt down the Pair Sin guidebooks.
Cool
Thanks!
Yes true bro
I wish it wasn't true. I need the alternate timeline where Nakaba fleshed out everything.
@@thatguywithapencil I know like how do you develop his Demon mark to demon mark to normal demon Mark to assault mode
@@thatguywithapencil I would have love to see meliodas and Chandler Duo
Yeah, since he's the only one who has it.
Meliodas being trained and fighting with his master would be so cool!
At this point in just like meliodas>naruto I don't care can't wait till you make the video
It will be long, I'll warn you.
@@thatguywithapencil and I'll wait 3 yrs if I have to😂😂
The escanor vs meliodas fight what if meliodas died in that state because we see he still cered for Elizabeth and he still wanted to brake the seal if he had died then would he be back to normal his original self
I think he could have died. He did lose all his emotions at that point, because stone cold and heartless.
Could it be argued that Elizabeth is weaker than Mael because it is stated that he is the strongest member of the 4 arch angels
He's also called the goddess clan strongest fighter, but it's honestly up in the air for now. She wasn't even one of the Four Archangels, but managed to hold off two Indura at once while Ludociel, who is normally stronger than Mael up to late noon couldn't even handle one. Meanwhile Mael just has statements and his one offscreen fight where he ran from. It honestly depends.
@@thatguywithapencil I don't know man the whole godess clan commited mass suicide after they thought that they lost mael while still having meliodas and elizabeth.If elizabeth was the strongest she would have been picked for the swap.
Id say assault mode= playful and dm= cold
I thought that too, but look at AM Mel with Zel in chapter 271. He looks just as cold and indifferent as he does in Demon Mark while in Assault Mode. That what leads me to believe there is a whole offscreen character shift.
Is there any Chance we'll ever get those lost arcs?
I highly doubt it. Now that we are in Four Knights there is no reason for Nakaba to regress. Especially since he said Seven Deadly Sins is the story of Meliodas, and thus he believes he doesn't need a heavier backstory chapter.
Sooner or later if Meliodas didn’t betray the demon race he probably would’ve been given the ruler as a passing the torch
I'm honestly shocked that Meliodas was not the Demon King's Representative, even not for a short period of time. Though you're right, I wonder how his original magic and his father's magic would interact.
@@thatguywithapencil I always thought that he didn’t need the Demons king power because he was strong enough as it is so the demon king gave it to Zeldris to even out the 10 commandments
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They just needed to give me something!
Where can I see meliodas vs mael
You can just look it up. There's a really quality video rendition done here though;
ruclips.net/video/m9QobpojdlY/видео.html
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This speed man!
@@thatguywithapencil can you do a video on Madara vs zeldris
Vs battle tommorow👀?
No, those are sticking to Mondays for now.
@@thatguywithapencil ok
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Followed with your daily AIN’T NOBODY BEATIN’ GOKU!
I get it wrong every time 🥲
Wasted
I always quietly hope there's a chance we could see more, but I doubt it.