No, it shows exactly why you should. Your fans will come up collectively with the most amazing theories that one author's brain would've never thought of. George might use some of those theories, and we'll never know if he came up with it or not.
"The White Walkers are all Faceless Men trolling Westeros people to just scare them, like a Halloween prank" was the best live comment and nobody acknowledged it
For me it was the "... because there was not a tongue that Uron *didn't* wanna rip out" (or smth like that) 😂caught me so of guard... Honestly he sounds like the kinda person that'd be great to hang out with
It's just a huge ploy to scare everyone into compliance bc past the wall and land of ice is modern civilization like M nightshamlamadingdongs "the village"
At first I thought N+C=J was Ned plus Catelyn equals Jon which for some reason is the funniest idea for a conspiracy theory only plausible in the deepest depths of the iceberg
@@ComradeCommissarYuri Mauler’s livestreams became outrageous a long time ago. Think the audience just goes in to last as long as possible now and not so much for the analysis anymore
I love the theory that Azor Ahai, The Prince That Was Promised, The Last Hero, The Dragon with 3 Heads, and The Stallion that Mounts the World are actually different people from different cultures who teamed up to end the Long Night. When their powers combine they create Captain Planetos.
@@miketrujillo3677 I mean a common sentiment I hear is that the White Walkers are a metaphor, or at least parallel, of global warming. So the idea that different countries and cultures would need to set aside their differences and cooperate in order to face the problem… well it’s not as far fetched as some of the theories in this video, that’s for sure.
@@AmandaDavis6130 I always like the idea that they're literally just magic ice elves and a realistic take on how humanity would view that considering most media like this portrays races living together in relative harmony but in real life we can't even get over our skin color there's no way we would be chill with the walkers
@@AmandaDavis6130 Sorry. You can't stop global warming, united, disunited, in fantasy, or in real life. Neither you can slow it down. Humans are ants and the planet Earth will warm or cool according to events much bigger than the ecosystem we are able to affect.
Bro you don’t even know I didn’t start reading the books until after season 7 and now I’m like please finish them so I can get that nonsense that was the last two seasons out of my head lol. Not a big bookworm but god damn I couldn’t find a reason to put them down.
"we're 45 minutes in and we've only covered the basically canon part, we'll have to speed it up" I fall asleep while listening and wake up to find a 5 hour livestream Oh Schwift
If someone is crazy enough to list the timestamps of each theory covered, I'll add them as 'chapters' to the video timeline! Edit: Timestamps are finished, thanks! RUclips doesn't support more than 100 chapters though lol
I'm watching this in chunks and I'll add more replies with further timestamps when I get through them. Basically Canon: 2:23 R+L=J 3:18 Brynden Rivers is the 3 Eyed Crow 7:20 Baelon Greyjoy was assasinated by Euron 9:45 Robert Strong 11:00 Lyanna Stark = Knight of the Laughing Tree 13:15 Pink Letter Conspiracy 19:19 Oberyn poisoned Tywin 23:21 Fageon 25:18 Parallels between each culture's legends 30:33 Daenerys is Azor Ahai 36:44 Frey Pies 38:18 Alleras the Sphinx 40:57 The Queen of Thorns Poisoned Joffery 41:18 Dany is the rightful Queen 42:37 The Battle of Blood
First three ti- (edit: Finished!) Tier one (basically canon) 2:22 R+L=J 3:18 Brynden rivers is the three eyed crow 7:20 Baelon Greyjoy was assasinated 9:45 Robert strong 11:00 Lyanna was the knight of the laughing tree 13:15 Pink letter conspiracy 19:20 Oberyn poisoned Tywin 23:20 Faegon 25:18 Parallels between each cultures ledgends 30:32 Daenerya is Azor Ahai 36:44 Frey pies 38:18 Alleras the Sphinx 40:57 The queen of thorns poisoned joffery 41:18 Dany is the rightful queen 42:36 The battle of blood Tier two (Maybe...) 45:17 Jon, Dany, Tyrion similariities 46:25 Ramsey castrated theon 47:36 Benjen=coldhands 51:17 Valonquar is jamie 53:56 Jojen paste 55:55 pate = jaqen 1:03:30 Bolt on 1:07:57 Septa Lemore is serra mopatis 1:10:57 Gerion Lannister = the shrouded lord 1:13:51 Night lamp 1:14:35 Dragons are wyverns 1:19:18 Melisandra can only see the future 1:20:16 Patch face prophecies 1:22:00 Jon is azor ahai 1:22:36 Jon con = the beast of stone 1:25:02 Grand Maester Conspiracy 1:27:57 Varys planted Shae 1:28:57 Euron is the dusky woman 1:33:13 Syrio = Jaqen 1:35:08 Red wedding 2 (electric boogalo) 1:37:31 The faceless men caused the doom 1:41:02 Jon is the rightful king 1:42:06 Old powers are waking Tier three (going deeper) 1:44:17 The Green Grace is the harpy 1:47:25 Quaith = shiera seastar 1:49:37 Arbour gold is a motif indicating deception 1:50:41 Valonquor is Tyrion 1:51:42 The North remembers 1:52:51 Frey civil war 1:53:47 Sweet robin is little finger son 1:54:43 Its literally just the war of the roses 1:55:41 Mormonts raven was warged 1:57:04 Blood raven killed Bobby B 2:00:01 Signifigance of blackstone 2:03:05 summerhall 2:07:01 Sansa is the younger queen 2:08:28 Hodor is desendent from duncan the tall 2:09:54 Septa lemore=ashara dayne 2:10:47 A+B=J 2:11:15 Merlings 2:14:41 Shavepaint poisoned the locusts 2:16:03 Cersie accidently poisoned joffery 2:16:48 Sam is in possession of the horn of winter 2:18:25 Why wyman manderly snuck in "mayhaps" 2:20:14 Perfumes sensual = tyrions ship 2:22:12 littlefinger endgame 2:25:08 "friends in the reach" 2:25:54 Ramsey and the frey in the snow (skipped) 2:31:47 (revisited) 2:26:00 John snow will remain as ghost 2:28:07 The hooded man = septon chayle 2:33:29 Daario is euron 2:35:11 Ramsey flayed lady hornwoods fingers 2:36:35 Stannis is azor ahai 2:37:42 Southron ambitions Update: Tier four (forum user) 2:38:59 Tywin was aware of jofferys poisonning and let it happen 2:40:14 Clegane bowl will still happen 2:43:00 Arianne Martell is the younger queen 2:44:55 L=J=J 2:45:30 Darkstar is a secret targaryan 2:46:48 Jon snow was really tormund 2:48:38 illyrio is trying to get rid of dany and visarys 2:50:12 coldhands = night king 2:51:52 grand dornish conspiracy 2:53:35 shireens true purpose 2:55:42 the children of the forest can cause earthquakes via human sacrifice 2:58:57 Varys and the antler men 2:59:32 Quentyn martell is alive 2:59:52 n+w=j 3:00:41 lightbringer is the nights watch 3:01:47 Hardhome was destroyed by valerians 3:02:29 Sam will kill euron 3:03:35 Stone snake = cold hands 3:05:09 Rorge and biter are also faceless men 3:07:01 Joffery poisoned himself 3:07:40 Mad queen cersie and jamies destiny 3:09:30 lightbringer is drogon 3:10:16 weirwood/children net 3:11:40 N+A=J Tier five (Preston Jacobs fan) 3:13:51 The three swords of azor ahai 3:16:59 Battle for the dawn ended in a truce 3:19:24 Stannis is the night king 3:23:19 Daenerys is a fire wight 3:25:19 Great brovos conspiracy 3:27:30 Pyat Pree = Euron 3:29:20 R+L=D 3:30:12 Petyr baelish is a tragic 3:31:24 The valaquor is sir robert strong 3:32:35 Hooded man = Hallis mollen 3:33:33 Melisandra has davos luck 3:34:40 Varys is a brightflame 3:37:13 The others are misunderstood 3:40:24 The children are the bad guys 3:43:32 Sam is the main character 3:44:36 “the wall protects itself” 3:45:32 “snow men” 3:47:40 Humanoid races are the result of divergent evolution 3:48:48 Targaryen and blackfyre alliance theory 3:50:08 Varys framed Cersie 3:50:23 Aegon is the rightful king 3:50:44 Bloodraven has been manipulating everything 3:55:22 Jon show isnt coming back 3:55:48 the hound raped sansa 3:56:53 Septa lemore = lyanna stark 3:57:37 The children caused the doom of valyria Tier six (Deepest lore) 3:58:35 Septon Reed 3:59:20 Asoiaf is a post apocalypse 4:02:58 The 7 = jamie, brienne, sandor, etc. 4:03:44 Aegon is legitimate 4:04:06 B+L=J 4:04:21 The old gods love starks 4:05:29 Robb was given a love potion 4:11:32 Daenerys is a dragonseed 4:13:38 The others built the wall 4:15:13 Valarians = first men 4:15:37 Tyrion is a targaryen chimeria 4:16:36 Khal drogos master plan 4:19:26 Ramsey is not roose's son 4:20:08 Tyrion really did poison joffery 4:20:27 humans evolved on the summer islands 4:21:03 starks are descendants of the others 4:22:23 Mance rayder = Arthur dayne 4:23:26 Lem Lemoncloak = lonmouth 4:25:40 Benjen = daario Tier seven (crackpot) 4:27:10 Rhaego was azor ahai 4:28:43 The multiple moon theory 4:33:55 Jamie and cersie are secret targaryens 4:35:26 The age of heros are prophecies 4:36:49 N+L=J 4:37:04 Far east civilizations are just references 4:38:52 The night watchs true purpose 4:39:25 Asoiaf is a sci-fi 4:39:56 Missandei is a faceless man 4:40:22 Val is jons twin 4:41:03 Azor Ahai =/= 4:42:13 Robert strong has jamie's hand, making him the ultimate valoquor 4:43:25 Theeon is becoming the drowned god 4:44:14 Cannibal dragon on skagos 4:46:35 There must always be a stark in winterfell 4:47:21 B+A=D 4:47:48 Rhaego is still alive 4:49:04 Like 7 diffent people poisoned joffery Tier eight (the final understanding) 4:50:09 Tyrion is the time traveling son of dany and drogo 4:51:39 Joffery and tommen are the rightful kings 4:52:43 N+C=J 4:53:32 Euron will become dany 4:54:22 Ser pounce is azor ahai 4:55:54 Sam is GRRM self insert 4:56:30 Asoiaf original draft (If I made any mistakes please let me know)
Alt Schwift X: As George asked those questions of Lord of the rings we must ask them of Game of Thrones Me, nodding along: Yes, what are the Night King's tax policies
Second to him is Moqorro, in my opinion. Mysterious character who has unclear and suspicious motives, and other guys on Victarion's ship are terrified of him.
[TIMESTAMPS] I started working on this before official timestamps were uploaded into the description but I've also included timestamps for superchat pauses and the conclusion! Just sharing cause oh boy this took a while (5 hours to be precise....) 0:00 - Introduction 2:13 - Layer 1 Start (Basically Canon) 2:15 - R+L=J 3:18 - Brynden Rivers is the 3 Eyed Crow 7:18 - Baelon Greyjoy was assassinated by Euron 9:45 - Robert Strong 11:00 - Lyanna Stark=Knight of the Laughing Tree 13:13 - Pink Letter Conspiracy 16:35 - Superchat Pause 1 19:19 - Oberyn Poisoned Tywin 21:34 - Superchat Pause 2 23:21 - fAegon 25:16 - Parallels between each culture’s legends 30:33 - Daenerys is Azor Ahai 31:58 - Superchat Pause 3 36:43 - Frey Pies 38:18 - Alleras the Sphinx 40:57 - The Queen of Thorns poisoned Joffrey 41:17 - Dany is the rightful Queen 41:56 - Superchat Pause 4 42:38 - The Battle of Blood 44:54 - Layer 2 Start (Maybe…) 45:17 - Jon, Dany, Tyrion similarities 46:25 - Ramsay castrated Theon 47:36 - Benjen=Coldhands 50:36 - Superchat Pause 5 51:16 - Valonqar is Jaime 53:54 - Jojen Paste 55:49 - Pate=Jaqen 58:39 - Superchat Pause 6 1:03:28 - Bolt On 1:06:14 - Superchat Pause 7 1:07:49 - Septa Lemore is Serra Mopatis 1:10:56 - Gerion Lannister=The Shrouded Lord 1:13:50 - Night Lamp 1:14:34 - Dragons are wyverns 1:15:24 - Superchat Pause 8 1:19:16 - Melisandre can only see the future, all other magical powers are tricks 1:20:15 - Patchface Prophecies 1:21:58 - Jon is Azor Ahai 1:22:36 - Jon Con=The Beast of Stone 1:25:01 - Grand Maester Conspiracy 1:27:55 - Varys planted Shae 1:28:55 - Euron is the Dusky Woman 1:31:49 - Superchat Pause 9 1:33:11 - Syrio = Jaqen 1:35:06 - Red Wedding 2 1:36:32 - Superchat Pause 10 1:37:31 - The Faceless Men caused the Doom 1:41:00 - Jon Snow is the rightful King 1:42:06 - Old Powers are waking 1:44:03 - Layer 3 Start (Going Deeper…) 1:44:13 - The Green Grace is the Harpy/Who is the Harpy? 1:47:24 - Quaithe=Shiera Seastar 1:49:36 - Arbour Gold is a motif indicating deception 1:50:41 - Valonqar is Tyrion 1:51:42 - The North Remembers 1:52:47 - Frey Civil War 1:53:46 - Sweet Robin is Little Finger’s son 1:54:42 - It’s literally just the War of the Roses 1:55:40 - Mormont’s raven was warged 1:57:03 - Bloodraven killed Bobby B (Robert Baratheon) 1:58:44 - Superchat Pause 11 1:59:58 - Significance of Blackstone being everywhere 2:03:04 - Summerhall Theory 2:04:38 - Identities of the 6 Dragons 2:06:45 - Superchat Pause 12 2:06:58 - Sansa Stark is the younger queen 2:08:27 - Hodor is descended from Duncan the Tall 2:09:53 - Septa Lemore=Ashara Dayne 2:10:47 - A+B=J 2:11:13 - Merlings 2:12:43 - Superchat Pause 13 2:14:39 - Shavepate poisoned the locusts 2:16:02 - Cersei accidentally poisoned Joffrey 2:16:45 - Sam is in possession of the Horn of Winter 2:18:24 - Why Wyman Manderly snuck in a “mayhaps” 2:20:13 - Perfumed seneschal=Tyrion’s ship 2:22:10 - Little Finger Endgame 2:25:07 - “Friends in the Reach” 2:25:51 - Ramsay and the Frey in the snow (confusion) 2:26:00 - Jon Snow will remain as Ghost 2:28:05 - The Hooded Man=Septon Chayle 2:29:34 - Superchat Pause 14 2:31:44 - Ramsay and the Frey in the snow (clarification) 2:32:44 - Superchat Pause 14 continued 2:33:28 - Daario is Euron 2:35:11 - Ramsay flayed Lady Hornwood’s fingers 2:36:34 - Stannis is Azor Ahai 2:37:41 - Southron Ambitions 2:38:56 - Layer 4 Start (Forum User) 2:39:00 - Tywin was fully aware of Joffrey’s poisoning and purposefully let it happen 2:40:13 - Cleganebowl will still happen 2:42:58 - Arianne Martell is the younger queen 2:43:44 - Superchat Pause 15 2:44:53 - L+J=J (confusion) 2:45:30 - Darkstar is a secret Targaryen 2:46:25 - L+J=J (clarification) 2:46:45 - “Jon Snow” was really Tormund Giantsbane 2:48:38 - Illyrio was trying to get rid of Viserys and Daenerys 2:50:11 - Coldhands=Night's King 2:51:51 - Grand Dornish Conspiracy 2:53:34 - Shireen’s true purpose 2:55:01 - Superchat Pause 16 2:55:39 - The Children of the Forest can cause earthquakes via human sacrifice 2:58:55 - Varys and the Antler Men 2:59:30 - Quentyn Martell is alive 2:59:51 - N+W=J 3:00:40 - Lightbringer is the Night’s Watch 3:01:46 - Hardhome was destroyed by Valyrians 3:02:28 - Sam will kill Euron 3:03:34 - Stonesnake=Coldhands 3:05:07 - Rorge and Biter are also Faceless Men 3:07:01 - Joffery poisoned himself 3:07:40 - Mad Queen Cersei and Jaime’s destiny 3:09:30 - Lightbringer is Drogon 3:10:16 - Weirwood/Children Net 3:11:40 - N+A=J 3:13:50 - Layer 5 Start (Preston Jacobs Fan) 3:13:51 - The three swords of Azor Ahai=Rhaegar, Aegon, and Jon 3:16:58 - Battle for the Dawn ended in a truce 3:19:23 - Stannis is the Night’s King 3:20:14 - Hydration Check! 3:20:24 - Stannis is the Night’s King continued 3:22:26 - Superchat Pause 17 3:23:17 - Daenerys is a Fire Wight 3:25:17 - Great Braavosi Conspiracy 3:27:28 - Pyat Pree=Euron 3:29:18 - R+L=D 3:30:11 - Petyr Baelish is a tragic 3:31:23 - The Valonqar is Ser Robert Strong 3:32:32 - Hooded Man=Hallis Mollen 3:33:33 - Melisandre has Davos’ “luck” 3:34:41 - Varys is a Brightflame 3:37:02 - Superchat Pause 18 3:37:12 - The Others are misunderstood and simply fighting for their survival 3:40:22 - The Children are the bad guys 3:42:46 - Superchat Pause 19 3:43:30 - Sam is the main character 3:44:35 - “The Wall protects itself” 3:45:31 - “Snow Men” 3:47:11 - Superchat Pause 20 3:47:39 - Humanoid races are the result of divergent evolution 3:48:47 - Targaryen and Blackfyre Alliance Theory 3:50:08 - Varys framed Cersei 3:50:22 - Aegon is the rightful King 3:50:43 - Bloodraven has been manipulating everything for hundreds of years 3:52:52 - Superchat Pause 21 3:55:21 - Jon Snow ain’t coming back 3:55:47 - The Hound raped Sansa 3:56:52 - Septa Lemore=Lyanna Stark 3:57:36 - The Children caused the Doom of Valyria 3:58:31 - Layer 6 Start (Deepest Lore) 3:58:34 - Septon Reed 3:59:18 - ASOIAF is a Post-Apocalyptic story 4:02:57 - The 7 = Jaime, Brienne, Sandor, Gendry, Dany, Cat, and Davos 4:03:43 - Aegon is legitimate 4:04:06 - B+L=J 4:04:20 - The Old Gods love the Starks 4:05:28 - Robb was given a love potion 4:11:31 - Daenerys is a dragonseed 4:12:28 - Superchat Pause 22 4:13:35 - The Others built the Wall to mark their territory 4:15:11 - Valyrians=First Men 4:15:37 - Tyrion is a Targaryen chimera 4:16:34 - Khal Drogo’s Master Plan 4:19:25 - Ramsay is not Roose’s son 4:20:01 - Tyrion really did poison Joffrey 4:20:26 - Humans evolved on the Summer Islands 4:21:02 - Starks are descendents of the Others 4:22:22 - Mance Rayder=Arthur Dayne 4:23:26 - Lem Lemoncloak=Richard Lonmouth 4:25:16 - Superchat Pause 23 4:25:39 - Benjen=Daario 4:27:09 - Layer 7 Start (Crackpot) 4:27:10 - Rhaego was Azor Ahai 4:28:18 - Superchat Pause 24 4:28:41 - The Multiple Moon Theory 4:33:55 - Jaime and Cersei are secret Targaryens 4:35:25 - The Age of Heroes=Prophecies for what is currently happening 4:36:48 - N+L=J 4:37:03 - Far East civilizations are just references to other works and should not be taken seriously 4:38:50 - The Night’s Watch’s true purpose 4:39:20 - ASOIAF is a Sci-Fi Story 4:39:54 - Missandei is a Faceless Man 4:40:21 - Val is Jon’s twin 4:41:02 - Azor Ahai =/= The Prince That Was Promised =/= The Last Hero =/= The Dragon with 3 Heads =/= The Stallion That Mounts The World 4:42:12 - Robert Strong has Jaime’s hand making him the ultimate Valonqar 4:43:23 - Theon is becoming the Drowned God 4:44:13 - Cannibal dragon on Skagos 4:46:34 - THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A STARK IN WINTERFELL 4:47:20 - B+A=D 4:47:47 - Rhaego is still alive 4:49:04 - Like 7 different people poisoned Joffrey because he was a fucking cunt 4:49:35 - Layer 8 Start (THE FINAL UNDERSTANDING) 4:50:08 - Tyrion is the time-travelling son/fetus of Daenerys and Drogo 4:51:39 - Joffrey and Tommen are the rightful Kings 4:52:42 - N+C=J 4:53:30 - Euron will become Daenerys 4:54:21 - Ser Pounce is Azor Ahai 4:55:54 - Sam is a GRRM self insert 4:56:20 - ASOIAF Original Draft (DO NOT RESEARCH) 4:57:46 - Planetos Full Map 4:57:55 - Conclusion 4:58:19 - Superchat Pause 25 4:59:54 - End
the ultimate theory is that GRRM only truly wrote the first book, the rest he's waited for fans to develop through theories before compiling the best ones into subsequent books
@@cflow2013 he's an artist. All artist have their magnum opis but they tend to try not rest on their laurels and instead strive for further meaning in new art
@@cflow2013 no matter what he does, he’s going to be horrifically harassed and bullied by significant portions of his fanbase so I really wouldn’t be surprised if he waits to publish at least ADoS posthumously so he doesn’t have to deal with shitty people attacking real humans because their favourite fictional character got sniped
I am 100% in favor of an animated ASOIF adaptation. If they do it, then it needs to be book accurate and not just an animated version of GoT. That way they can do the magical aspects of the story without needing 80 billion for an FX budget. They can actually do the Lady Stoneheart story, as well as having actual scale for the Mountain, the Hound, Robert Baratheon... Etc. The way they appear in the book rather than making do with live action actors who can't possibly be accurate. If they did it in the style of the animated DC movies, I think it would be a smashing success.
If Aegon the Conqueror’s claim was legitimized through combat, then so was Robert’s. By law, Stannis is the rightful king unless Dany actually reconquered Westeros.
GRRM: *writes a story that criticizes the monarchy, and uses line like “power resides where men believes it resides” to emphasize that these power struggles and fights over who has “the best claim” is completely arbitrary.* Stannis fanboys: “I’m gonna pretend I didn’t hear that.”
N + C = J: Jon is the only trueborn son of Ned and Cat, but Ned gaslighted Catlyn into believing that all of his bastards were her sons and her only son was a bastard
Re: Frey pies. Wyman Manderly is a stickler for guest right, but... there are technicalities. He gave the missing Freys horses as guest gifts, a custom that is no longer universally followed in Westeros, thus formally ending the host/guest relationship and basically making them fair game for revenge. He also brought his own provisions when he brought his men to Winterfell, so he hasn't eaten any of Roose Bolton's bread and salt...
New theory just dropped: Jaime is a time lord and his hand will be used to generate a clone of himself to be with Cersei while the real Jaime saves the world
The biggest conspiracy of them all is he's actually the same person as that alt shift x person. Crazy I know, but their voices sound the same so I'm taking that as 100% incontrovertible evidence that they are in fact, the same person.
Jaime showed his golden hand to his beloved sister. "I am inevitable", he answered. Fear started to draw itself on Cersei's face as she saw the fingers of the golden hand moving and snapping before coming back to normal. Immediately, she started to feel a strange pain coming from the inside. "Jaime... I don't feel so good", she said. But when she finally noticed that her body was slowly being shred to ashes, she saw only apathy in Jaime's face
Hey Schwift you dont get enough praise for crediting the artists' work you feature. So many theory & analysis channels neglect the artists they get their assets from and you are dope AF for shouting them out.
Based on all the theories I've heard over the years, I have concluded that everyone in the book is a secret Targ, and I mean everyone, even the smallfolk, the horses, the pigs, the sheep, the trees, and so on. Very tiny iceberg.
Only an hour in, and so far "Roose Bolton's Flayed skin onsie" is my favourite bit. I'm going deeper EDIT: "Raegar was impotent and Lyana... fuckin'... spontaneously combusted." It got better.
‘And also like, since Syrio said “What do we say to the god of death? Not today” that seems like kind of a contradiction against the ideology of the faceless men…. Surely the faceless men say to the god of death, “yes today and tomorrow, every day bro, we’ve death priests”’ F'n iconic XD
@@JoshSweetvale Certainly seems like you couldn't be a Braavosi without having an opinion on the matter. The faceless men seem rather like a "with us or against us" kind of crew
@@mc-funk Braavos is also the city of freed slaves, which are the Many-Faced God's demographic, the aforementioned god is also _syncretic,_ worshiping him is paying respect to the gods of all cultures, which encourages trade. The Iron Bank, to go full circle, is pretty much implied to be the Faceless Men's biggest customer. The whole city's culture is _very_ well-designed by Martin.
I don't recall him ever saying this in the books. What he really says, and what Arya keeps repeating to herself is "Fear cuts deeper than swords." So if we're talking about TWOW, then this show quote means absolutely nothing.
To add to the grave digger theory, every named horse is named after an aspect of their owner that is lost during the story; Dancer (Bran), Smiler (Theon), Honour and Glory (Jamie), and Sandor’s horse Stranger (the god of death). Having a notorious warrior become a peaceful monk would show him losing his relationship with death/killing.
George R. R. Martin said at one point that one of our main POV characters descend from Duncan the Tall. And in Feast, Brienne has her shield painted to the likeness of "a shield she saw in her father's armory" with a tree and a falling star.
Jon Snow resurection theory: Lady Stoneheart revives him the same way Beric revived her. By giving him life, she's basically becoming the mother she wasn't in her previous life.
I 100% agree with this. It would also pass souls on from Beric to Jon via Stoneheart. This way all the azor ahai stuff Beric was doing, lighting his sword ext. is explained because now his soul is in Jon so he now has azor ahai soul
It's stated that Drogo married Dany specifically because he was a one in a generation uber-Khal, and he wanted a unique bride, not some random dothraki chick
I always saw the stench of Tywin’s corpse as an allusion to the death of William the Conqueror. There are a few similarities. Both men struggled with family legacy, Tywin having his relationship with his incest kids and the dwarf reflection of himself who he despises, while William spent the last half of his reign waging war with his son. When William died, his body bloated, and when they tried to fit it into his tomb he burst due to some internal gasses I think. The stench was apparently so repulsive that it filled the whole church. That’s always what I think of when I hear about Tywin’s death.
To support the theory that the night watch is lightbringer, in their vows they literally say : « I’m the sword in the darkness, the light that brings the dawn » I never thoughts about it before but now it sounds obvious
Tim stamps By Aug 101 Tier one (basically canon) 2:22 R+L=J 3:18 Brynden rivers is the three eyed crow 7:20 Baelon Greyjoy was assasinated 9:45 Robert strong 11:00 Lyanna was the knight of the laughing tree 13:15 Pink letter conspiracy 19:20 Oberyn poisoned Tywin 23:20 Faegon 25:18 Parallels between each cultures ledgends 30:32 Daenerya is Azor Ahai 36:44 Frey pies 38:18 Alleras the Sphinx 40:57 The queen of thorns poisoned joffery 41:18 Dany is the rightful queen 42:36 The battle of blood Tier two (Maybe...) 45:17 Jon, Dany, Tyrion similariities 46:25 Ramsey castrated theon 47:36 Benjen=coldhands 51:17 Valonquar is jamie 53:56 Jojen paste 55:55 pate = jaqen 1:03:30 Bolt on 1:07:57 Septa Lemore is serra mopatis 1:10:57 Gerion Lannister = the shrouded lord 1:13:51 Night lamp 1:14:35 Dragons are wyverns 1:19:18 Melisandra can only see the future 1:20:16 Patch face prophecies 1:22:00 Jon is azor ahai 1:22:36 Jon con = the beast of stone 1:25:02 Grand Maester Conspiracy 1:27:57 Varys planted Shae 1:28:57 Euron is the dusky woman 1:33:13 Syrio = Jaqen 1:35:08 Red wedding 2 (electric boogalo) 1:37:31 The faceless men caused the doom 1:41:02 Jon is the rightful king 1:42:06 Old powers are waking Tier three (going deeper) 1:44:17 The Green Grace is the harpy 1:47:25 Quaith = shiera seastar 1:49:37 Arbour gold is a motif indicating deception 1:50:41 Valonquor is Tyrion 1:51:42 The North remembers 1:52:51 Frey civil war 1:53:47 Sweet robin is little finger son 1:54:43 Its literally just the war of the roses 1:55:41 Mormonts raven was warged 1:57:04 Blood raven killed Bobby B 2:00:01 Signifigance of blackstone 2:03:05 summerhall 2:07:01 Sansa is the younger queen 2:08:28 Hodor is desendent from duncan the tall 2:09:54 Septa lemore=ashara dayne 2:10:47 A+B=J 2:11:15 Merlings 2:14:41 Shavepaint poisoned the locusts 2:16:03 Cersie accidently poisoned joffery 2:16:48 Sam is in possession of the horn of winter 2:18:25 Why wyman manderly snuck in "mayhaps" 2:20:14 Perfumes sensual = tyrions ship 2:22:12 littlefinger endgame 2:25:08 "friends in the reach" 2:25:54 Ramsey and the frey in the snow (skipped) 2:31:47 (revisited) 2:26:00 John snow will remain as ghost 2:28:07 The hooded man = septon chayle 2:33:29 Daario is euron 2:35:11 Ramsey flayed lady hornwoods fingers 2:36:35 Stannis is azor ahai 2:37:42 Southron ambitions Update: Tier four (forum user) 2:38:59 Tywin was aware of jofferys poisonning and let it happen 2:40:14 Clegane bowl will still happen 2:43:00 Arianne Martell is the younger queen 2:44:55 L=J=J 2:45:30 Darkstar is a secret targaryan 2:46:48 Jon snow was really tormund 2:48:38 illyrio is trying to get rid of dany and visarys 2:50:12 coldhands = night king 2:51:52 grand dornish conspiracy 2:53:35 shireens true purpose 2:55:42 the children of the forest can cause earthquakes via human sacrifice 2:58:57 Varys and the antler men 2:59:32 Quentyn martell is alive 2:59:52 n+w=j 3:00:41 lightbringer is the nights watch 3:01:47 Hardhome was destroyed by valerians 3:02:29 Sam will kill euron 3:03:35 Stone snake = cold hands 3:05:09 Rorge and biter are also faceless men 3:07:01 Joffery poisoned himself 3:07:40 Mad queen cersie and jamies destiny 3:09:30 lightbringer is drogon 3:10:16 weirwood/children net 3:11:40 N+A=J Tier five (Preston Jacobs fan) 3:13:51 The three swords of azor ahai 3:16:59 Battle for the dawn ended in a truce 3:19:24 Stannis is the night king 3:23:19 Daenerys is a fire wight 3:25:19 Great brovos conspiracy 3:27:30 Pyat Pree = Euron 3:29:20 R+L=D 3:30:12 Petyr baelish is a tragic 3:31:24 The valaquor is sir robert strong 3:32:35 Hooded man = Hallis mollen 3:33:33 Melisandra has davos luck 3:34:40 Varys is a brightflame 3:37:13 The others are misunderstood 3:40:24 The children are the bad guys 3:43:32 Sam is the main character 3:44:36 “the wall protects itself” 3:45:32 “snow men” 3:47:40 Humanoid races are the result of divergent evolution 3:48:48 Targaryen and blackfyre alliance theory 3:50:08 Varys framed Cersie 3:50:23 Aegon is the rightful king 3:50:44 Bloodraven has been manipulating everything 3:55:22 Jon show isnt coming back 3:55:48 the hound raped sansa 3:56:53 Septa lemore = lyanna stark 3:57:37 The children caused the doom of valyria Tier six (Deepest lore) 3:58:35 Septon Reed 3:59:20 Asoiaf is a post apocalypse 4:02:58 The 7 = jamie, brienne, sandor, etc. 4:03:44 Aegon is legitimate 4:04:06 B+L=J 4:04:21 The old gods love starks 4:05:29 Robb was given a love potion 4:11:32 Daenerys is a dragonseed 4:13:38 The others built the wall 4:15:13 Valarians = first men 4:15:37 Tyrion is a targaryen chimeria 4:16:36 Khal drogos master plan 4:19:26 Ramsey is not roose's son 4:20:08 Tyrion really did poison joffery 4:20:27 humans evolved on the summer islands 4:21:03 starks are descendants of the others 4:22:23 Mance rayder = Arthur dayne 4:23:26 Lem Lemoncloak = lonmouth 4:25:40 Benjen = daario Tier seven (crackpot) 4:27:10 Rhaego was azor ahai 4:28:43 The multiple moon theory 4:33:55 Jamie and cersie are secret targaryens 4:35:26 The age of heros are prophecies 4:36:49 N+L=J 4:37:04 Far east civilizations are just references 4:38:52 The night watchs true purpose 4:39:25 Asoiaf is a sci-fi 4:39:56 Missandei is a faceless man 4:40:22 Val is jons twin 4:41:03 Azor Ahai =/= 4:42:13 Robert strong has jamie's hand, making him the ultimate valoquor 4:43:25 Theeon is becoming the drowned god 4:44:14 Cannibal dragon on skagos 4:46:35 There must always be a stark in winterfell 4:47:21 B+A=D 4:47:48 Rhaego is still alive 4:49:04 Like 7 diffent people poisoned joffery Tier eight (the final understanding) 4:50:09 Tyrion is the time traveling son of dany and drogo 4:51:39 Joffery and tommen are the rightful kings 4:52:43 N+C=J 4:53:32 Euron will become dany 4:54:22 Ser pounce is azor ahai 4:55:54 Sam is GRRM self insert 4:56:30 Asoiaf original draft
The explanation I tend to go with is that Bloodraven isn't specifically sending directed messages to Bran. It's more of general call to anyone who might have the power. There's some belief Euron also got the call, but it flipped him out. The crow is simply how the messenger appears to Bran and is something Bloodraven isn't in control of. Another person might see it as something different.
William the Conquerors body also ended up causing a huge stink in a church. The burial was delayed, the corpse swelled and when they tried to push it into the tomb it burst.
My favourite theory that I never see mentioned is that Craster was the one thing holding the White Walkers back. The White Walkers made a deal with someone, probably the Nights King that they were to be given living human babies as tribute to prevent them attacking. Craster was the last person maintaining this deal.
Winter is coming means that since the Night King was a Stark and married the "winter lady", the Stark made winter come. It's just a boast that they're good lovers.
Winter is coming has half a dozen different meanings. One is a warning of the Zombie Apocalypse, another is a boast about the Kings of Winter using Russian-esque deep-defense tactics, and also a threat akin to "a Lannister pays his debts."
"The whole 'rightful king' thing is always debatable". That is something that makes me laugh: The series is all about criticizing the monarchy, but you have all these fans getting into heated debates on if Stannis or Jon or Dany is the "true" ruler. "Power resides where men believe it resides" indeed.
@@npickle54 no there isn't, it's a pretty debated point. Jon, Dany, Joffrey, and Stannis have pretty good legal claims. Renly and Robb both have claims thats are pretty decent too.
At 1:02:40 alt forgets what a wet nurse is called and uses the description "when you use a lady like a milk cow". Thats one of the funniest things ive seen in a while
Seeing as most prophecies in ASOIAF seem to come true in unexpected ways; I think that the Dothraki Crones’ ‘stallion that mounts the world’ prophecy will come true, not through Rhaego, but through Drogon. In a way, Drogon was born of Danaerys and Khal Drogo, seeing as Drogo’s death was likely part of the blood magic that helped birth the dragon eggs. The dragon being named for him creates another facet of Drogo’s involvement in the birth. I think Drogon is the prophecised ‘child’ of Danaerys and Khal Drogo.
Thinking about your light bringer Azor Ahai/dragon taming thing, and thinking about the most famous sacrifice in the books so far- Dany tries and fails to sacrifice a horse for Drogo. When that fails, she then decides to sacrifice herself on a pyre, but that fails, too, and the dragons are born instead. Is she simultaneously Azor Ahai and Nissa Nissa, and has already created her own Lightbringer (ie her dragons)? That would switch up a trope/offer a twist in a way George would like and play into his whole idea that magic is tricky and doesn't always work in a straightforward way. People think it's Jon stabbing Dany or something, but the sacrifice having already taken place would be cool. Do they need additional magic swords when Valyrian steel seems to do the trick?
Varys said he swapped the baby who subbed in for Aegon for a bottle of arbour gold, so if Aegon is a blackfire this is a seperate case of arbour gold as a motif in a deception
I love how show watchers are gunna pick up TWOW to see what happens to Khaleesi and are instead met with Euron Greyjoy literally being a demon and summoning dark powers from the deep. I honestly think TWOW is going to be so good, but it's going to get a bad reception
I’m genuinely thinking that most people won’t be so dumb as to hate on the book without having read any of the previous ones (I know, bad to presume people won’t be dumb, but still)
I feel like it might a Cyberpunk situation. People wait for a new game for years and when its released it doesn’t meet expectations. Possibly even because GRRM is rushed to finish it.
@@DwRockett oh, of course they will. It'll be a lot of news and pop culture websites waiting four hours after release to write about how there's a massive backlash while citing like three illiterate nobodies on Twitter complaining and garnering virtually no likes or retweets, which then will be cited in later articles referring to it as "The controversial Winds of Winter" and eventually they'll manage to actually poison people against the book, all for them to generate traffic and get like 30 more cents from a supposedly woke deodorant company that buys adspace. It will be entombed in a pyramid of grifters and shills before people even read it
That would be the biggest plot twist, that a character is just who they appear to be. He's just some tall dude because Westeros has more than one tall person.
@@evanmack8527 aren’t they only extinct in the male line? Their blood likely made it into houses Baratheon and Velaryon because those houses took on two of Lucamore Strong’s three families as wards. So I guess technically they’re probably still alive and well
He’s the son of Robert Baratheon. Robert Baratheon went by Robert Strong while on campaign during Robert’s Rebellion: “Gods, I was Strong back then.” Robert Strong is named after his father, who went by Robert Strong. Since he has the surname Strong means he is trueborn. Like Robert Baratheon, Robert Strong is a huge powerful man. Finally, Arryn straight-up tells us: “The seed is Strong.”
I would say that Littlefinger DOES pretty much make it up as he goes along, as you put it. I see Baelish and Varys as being polar opposites in terms of their strategy: Varys has this grand master plan, puppeteering Dany, Viserys, Drogo, furthering WotFK, whereas we see several times where Littlefinger explores several options at once, such as with Ned and Cersei in book 1, or (and I know this is show only) when he speaks to Catelyn, Renly, AND Margaery about their own separate plots, playing every side for his own benefit. Varys is meticulous, Littlefinger is opportunistic. Varys plays the long game, Littlefinger is more concerned with the short term, creating chaos and playing it to his advantage.
I think Melisandre's chapter implies she isn't quite like Berric. It's not that she died and was ressurected and then boom fire-wight, it seems as she practices her craft as a red preist she sort of slowly becomes like a fire wight, and that's why she is very old and doesn't need to eat and barely needs to sleep. By the time of the main series, she's *almost* there IMO.
I’ve always loved the idea of the Stark words “Winter is Coming” actually being a threat / boast of Stark power, having its origins in some kind of Stark / Other alliance or potentially even the earliest kings of winter simply having more knowledge and control over their ice and warging magics
2:36:29 that hornwood finger thing should be on the first tier tbh, the evidence for it is reek in adwd says that ramsay flayed his fingers, and the pain was so bad that reek begged ramsay to cut it off and ramsay obliged since that was his whole plan. so ramsay probably flayed lady hornwood's fingers, but she probably just said 'fuck you' and ramsay left her to starve in a tower since he wasnt getting any pleasure from torturing her and the pain got so bad that she tried or succeeded in biting off her own finger, then later starved to death, which caused the rumours that she was so hungry she started eating her fingers. just way too plausible tbh
What if Coldhands is Brynden's body and mind having warged into a random corpse? What if the trees have taken on Brynden's form but the real Brynden is inside a corpse? It would match the prior way GRRM writes about hiveminds. What if what we know of as 'Bloodraven' is just something that stole his form and is using his form to bring about humanity's extinction as a bioweapon?
ASX misses H+A = J+M: I really wanted to hear about that Me noticing Howland = Jojen: Oh, it’s ok, he’ll cover it there ASX misses Howland = Jojen: Burn them all
When they say Ned pulled the Tower of Joy down, they mean Ned told some peasants and servants to pull the Tower down. Lords don't do hard labor. Even the down to earth Ned Stark.
I think Penny's role in the story is to demonstrate how he hasn't completely broken bad yet. On multiple occasions he goes out of his way to keep Penny alive, when it would have been much easier for him and Jorah to ditch her as soon as possible. Her performing act did become instrumental in keeping Tyrion alive later but he had no way of knowing that in their early journey. I think Tyrion either killing Penny or letting her get killed will be a crucial part of his arc when he completely abandons any pretence that he's a good person. Or perhaps it will be when he abandons his self loathing. He'll think, "fuck it, I'm a monster and I'm gonna own it rather than hate myself". That would serve as a fucked up parallel to what Jaime did when everyone hated him for killing Aerys, so he formed his personality as someone who didn't care what anyone thought and would do any horrible thing.
“Mel has Davos’s Luck” Idk but I think theory refers to the idea that either she or one of her supporters will glamor themselves as Davos, probably in order to counsel Stannis (and more than likely to convince him to make a bad decision).
TIMESTAMPS: - Tier 1: 2:15 - R+L=J 3:18 - Brynden Rivers is the Three-eyed Crow 7:18 - Baelon Greyjoy was killed by Euron 9:45 - Robert Strong 11:00 - The Knight of the Laughing Tree 13:15 - The Pink Letter conspiracy 19:19 - Oberyn poisoned Tywin 23:21 - Fageon 25:19 - Parallel's between each culture's legends 30:33 - Daenerys is Azor Ahai 36:44 - Frey pies 38:18 - Alerras the Sprhinx's true identity 40:57 - The Queen of Thorns poisoned Joffrey 41:18 - Dany is the rightful ruler 42:38 - The Battle of Blood *not mentioned: Gravedigger - Tier 2: 45:17 - Jon/Dany/Tyrion similarities 46:26 - Ramsay snipped Theon 47:36 - Benjen = Coldhands 51:16 - Valonqar is Jamie 53:56 - Jojen paste 55:50 - Pate = Jaqen 1:03:29 - Bolt ON 1:07:55 - Septa Lamore is Serra Mopatis 1:10:56 - Gerion Lannister = The Shrouded Lord 1:13:50 - Night lamp 1:14:34 - Dragons are wyverns 1:16:04 - (superchat theory) Howland warged into Arthur Dayne 1:19:16 - Mellisandre can only see the future... 1:20:15 - Patchface prophecies 1:21:58 - Jon is Azor Ahai 1:22:36 - Jon Con = The Beast of Stone 1:25:01 - Grand Maester Conspiracy 1:27:56 - Varys planted Shae 1:28:56 - Euron is the Dusky Woman 1:33:11 - Syrio = Jaqen 1:35:06 - Red Wedding 2... 1:37:30 - The Faceless Men causes the Doom 1:41:01 - Jon is the rightful ruler 1:42:05 - Old powers are waking *not mentioned: Jon will be Ressurected - Tier 3: 1:44:16 - The Green Grace is the Harpy 1:47:23 - Quaithe = Shiera Seastar 1:49:36 - Arbour Gold is a motif indicating deception 1:50:40 - Valonqar is Tyrion 1:51:42 - The North Remembers 1:52:50 - Frey Civil War 1:52:46 - Sweet Robin is Little Finger's son 1:54:42 - It's literally just the war of the roses 1:55:40 - Mormont's raven was warged 1:57:02 - Bloodraven killed Bobby B 1:59:58 - Significance of Blackstone being everywhere 2:03:03 - Summerhall Theory 2:04:38 - Identities of the six dragons 2:06:58 - Sansa Stark is the Younger Queen 2:08:27 - Hodor is descended from Duncan the Tall 2:09:53 - Septa Lamore = Ashara Dayne 2:10:45 - A + B = J 2:11:14 - Merlings 2:14:40 - Shavepate poisoned the Locusts 2:16:01 - Cersei accidentally poisoned Joffrey 2:16:45 - Sam is in possession of the Horn of Winter 2:18:23 - Why Wyman Manderly snuck in a "mayhaps" 2:20:12 - Perfumed Seneschal = Tyrion's ship 2:22:10 - Little Finger's endgame 2:25:05 - Friends in the Reach 2:25:52 - Ramsay and the Frey in the snow (???) 2:25:59 - Jon Snow will remain as Ghost 2:28:05 - The Hooded Man = Septon Chayle/Theon's guilt 2:33:28 - Daario is Euron 2:35:10 - Ramsay flayed Lady Hornwood's fingers 2:36:35 - Stannis is Azor Ahai 2:37:42 - Southron ambitions - Tier 4: 2:38:58 - Tywin knew of Joffrey's poisoning and let it happen 2:40:15 - Clegane Bowl will still happen 2:43:00 - Arrianne Martell is the Younger Queen 2:44:52 - L + J = J 2:45:33 - Darkstar is a Secret Targaryen 2:46:46 - Jon Snow was really Tormund 2:48:38 - Ilyrio was trying to get rid of Dani and Viserys 2:50:12 - Coldhands = Nightking 2:51:52 - Grand Dornish conspiracy 2:53:35 - Shireen's true purpose 2:55:40 - The CotF can cause earthquakes 2:58:56 - Varys and the Antler Men 2:59:51 - N + W = J 3:00:41 - Lightbringer is the Nightwatch 3:01:46 - Harholme was destroyed by Valyrians 3:02:30 - Sam will kill Euron 3:03:34 - Stonesnake = Coldhands 3:05:08 - Rorge and Biter are Faceless men 3:07:00 - Joffrey poisoned himself 3:07:44 - Mad Queen Cersei and Jamie's destiny 3:09:30 - Lightbringer is Drogon 3:10:16 - Weirwood Net 3:11:41 - N + A = J *not mentioned: Tyrell conspiracy, Mance tried to kill Bran, Genetics of Ice and Fire - Tier 5: 3:13:51 - The three swords of Azor Ahai = Rhaegar, Aegon and Jon 3:16:58 - The Battle for the Dawn ended in a truce 3:19:25 - Stannis is the Nightking 3:23:19 - Daenerys is fire wight 3:25:19 - Great Braavosi conspiracy 3:27:29 - Pyat Pree = Euron 3:29:23 - R + L = D 3:30:11 - Peter Baelish's tragedy 3:31:25 - Valonqar is Ser Robert Strong 3:32:33 - Hooded Man = Hallis Mollen 3:33:34 - Mellisandre has Davos' "luck" 3:34:40 - Varys is a Brightflame 3:37:13 - The Others are misunderstood 3:40:23 - The CotF are the baddies 3:43:32 - Sam is the Main Character 3:44:35 - The Wall protects itself 3:45:30 - "Snow men" 3:47:40 - Humanoid races are the result of evolution 3:48:47 - Targaryen and Blackfyre alliance 3:50:08 - Varys framed Cersei (???) 3:50:22 - Aegon is the rightful ruler 3:55:22 - Jon ain't coming back 3:55:49 - The Hound raped Sansa 3:56:52 - Septa Lamore = Lyanna Stark 3:57:35 - The CotF cause the Doom *not mentioned: H + A = M + J, Unifying theory of magic, - Tier 6: 3:58:40 - Septon Reed 3:59:20 - aSoIaF is a post-apocalyptic story 4:02:57 - The 7 = Jamie, Brienne, Sandor Gendry, Dany, Cat and Davos 4:03:43 - Aegon is legitimate 4:04:06 - B + L = J 4:04:21 - The Old Gods love the Starks 4:05:29 - Robb was given a love potion 4:11:31 - Daenerys is a Dragonseed 4:13:37 - The others built the wall 4:15:10 - Valyrians = First Men 4:15:38 - Tyrion is a Targaryen Chimeria 4:16:37 - Khal Drogo's master plan 4:19:26 - Ramsey is not Roose's son 4:20:08 - Tyrion poisoned Joffrey 4:20:27 - Humans evolved on the Summer Isles 4:21:03 - Starks are descendants of the Others 4:22:22 - Mance Rayder = Arthur Dayne 4:23:27 - Lem Lemoncloak = Richard Lonmouth 4:25:40 - Benjen = Daario *not mentioned: Ned's alive, Howland = Jojen - Tier 7: 4:27:10 - Rhaego was Azor Ahai 4:28:43 - The Multiple Moons theory 4:33:55 - Jamie and Cersei are secret Targaryens 4:35:26 - The Age of Heroes = Prophecies... 4:36:49 - N + L = J 4:37:04 - Far East civilizations are just references... 4:38:51 - The Nightwatch's true purpose 4:39:25 - aSoIaF is a Sci-fi story 4:39:55 - Missandei is a Faceless Man 4:40:22 - Val is Jon's twin 4:41:03 - Azor Ahai != The Prince... 4:42:14 - Robert Strong has Jamie's hand... 4:43:25 - Theon is becoming the Drowned God 4:44:13 - Cannibal Dragon on Skagos 4:46:36 - There must always be a Stark in Winterfell 4:47:21 - B + A = D 4:47:48 - Rhaego is still alive 4:49:04 - Like 7 different people poisoned Joffrey... - Tier 8 (only for the bravest of braves): 4:50:08 - The Time-traveling fetus 4:51:40 - Joffrey and Tommen are the rightful rulers 4:52:42 - N + C = J 4:53:32 - Euron will become Daenerys 4:54:21 - Ser Pounce is Azor Ahai 4:55:54 - Sam IS GRRM 4:56:20 - aSoIaF Original Draft *not mentioned: Planetos full map
I watch of TON of these GoT analyzers and I'm sure you've heard this before - but your's are BY FAR the best. Born with the great voice, but the hard work that goes into your videos shines through, and want to express my genuine appreciation for pointing out all the details I miss despite several readings :) Thanks for still brining fresh content!
Even if you're starting to change your mind on the theory that Oberyn poisoned Tywin, I think there's still a couple of points you're neglecting: The biggest evidence Tywin was poisoned isn't that his corpse stinks, but to quote two comments from Brendan Fechter and Kristjan Kangro on the last video: A) Pycelles long description of Widows Blood where all the other poisons he just rattles off the names. B) Prior to and during his trial, there are several times when Tyrion describes Tywin's appearance as someone who may have been poisoned. However there's another aspect to it, which is that's actually thematically appropriate. Not with regards to Tywin, but with regards to "The Dornish Master Plan": Oberyn and Doran concocted an elaborate scheme to have Oberyn poison Tywin, get accused of the murder, invoke Trial by Combat, and then kill the Mountain during that. There's already symbolism that Doran's schemes are overly elaborate and excessively "patient" to the extent they're already rotten before they're even carried out. If this theory is true, Oberyn and Doran's plan failed on every SINGLE point because of stuff they didn't predict: Oberyn didn't get accused of Tywin's murder, Tyrion got accused of Joffrey's Murder. Not only was it Tyrion to invoke Trial by Combat rather than Oberyn, Oberyn wasn't even the first pick for his champion. If either Jaime or Bronn hadn't refused, Oberyn would be watching someone else fighting the Mountain instead of doing it himself. Oberyn doesn't kill the Mountain during their combat, but is so focused on the plan of extracting a confession he looses. No matter if the Mountain's days were numbered after the fight, he won the fight itself. Having Tyrion kill Tywin while he was already slowly dying from Oberyn's poison would be the final nail in the plan's coffin: The point isn't that it's meaningless whether Tyrion shot Tywin because he was already dying; the point is it's meaningless whether Oberyn managed to poison Tywin before he was killed himself, Tyrion would have had to kill him anyway during the escape. EDIT: Forgot to mention, it can even be thematically tied to another incident involving Tyrion and Tywin specifically: At the Battle of the Green Fork, Tyrion admired how his father looked as a regal mastermind treating humans as Cyvasse pieces. Except Tywin's "master plan" failed miserable, in part because he had planned for the Hill Tribesmen to break, and they didn't. If this theory is true, there's a very central theme tying together Tywin, Tyrion and Doran: you can't treat life as a chess game where you can concoct a "master plan" in you head and just sit back and watch it unfold. Life and other people are unpredictable, and no plan survives contact with either.
It makes me really sad that there is a genuine possibility that these questions might never be answered. I really hope George finishes the books. But who are we to expect him to do that? Ahhhhh i can't take it
Regarding the identity of the harpy, I thought the show missed a cool opportunity to bring back Xaro Xhoan Daxos. It's not unbelievable if he had some kind of contingency plan for the safe, a secret exit or an employee to open it etc. Might have been fun
This came out at midnight for me last night. I saw it and went LET'S GO! Fell asleep 2 hours in and thought I'd wake up today to finish off whatever I nodded off for and I find 3 MORE HOURS! Best way to start a morning
You should make a tier list of your favourite game of thrones theories. It doesn't have to be ranked on what is most plausible, but what you think thematically and story wise is most enjoyable/satisfying (ie Season 8 Twists would be below F tier as narrative beats for example)
-Yeah 3 eyed crow is pretty weird. "you the 3 eyed crow?" "I was in the Watch, so a crow I guess, and I was said to have a thousand and one eyes, so sure I have 3 eyes" -A Lannister King (Tommen II, I think?) took Brightroar and went to Valyria after the Doom. He was lost as was the sword. Also, iirc Gerion is Jaime's favorite uncle as well.
The longer george waits to release Winds the more we descend into the pit of despair and iceberg theories, slowly losing grasp on reality while contemplating every possible outcome all at once. What if WE are the three eyed raven? Did we get absolutely pranked by george?
I believe historically, speaking of inheritance, should the first born die before the king, the firstborn’s firstborn would then be the new heir. If this works in Westeros, Jon (or Faegon if he is Aegon) is the true heir, even if they’re younger
Yeah, in England, right now, Charles is the heir. Then William. If Elizabeth outlives Charles, William is still the heir. He is still above any of Elizabeth's other kids. So, if Young Griff is considered legit, he would have the claim over Jon Snow (because he's older, true born) and Dany (she's the younger to Rhaeger)
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Heya man just saying i think "there must always be a stark in winterfell," is because they've had it for 8000 years and they wanna keep it
Is it just this one with the previous one?
Ned+Caitlyn=Jon, seems funnier than Ned and Cersei 😂
I just finished it Im gonna watch this again anyway💃
This iceberg demonstrates exactly why you should never leave your mystery novels on a ten year cliffhanger.
No, it shows exactly why you should. Your fans will come up collectively with the most amazing theories that one author's brain would've never thought of. George might use some of those theories, and we'll never know if he came up with it or not.
@@Anna133199 George doesn't read fan theories
@@Eleiem That's what he says..
@@Eleiem But hey, that's just a theory
@@Anna133199 Wrong. It just builds expectations stupidly high for most people.
"The White Walkers are all Faceless Men trolling Westeros people to just scare them, like a Halloween prank" was the best live comment and nobody acknowledged it
lmao this is hysterically hilarious
For me it was the "... because there was not a tongue that Uron *didn't* wanna rip out" (or smth like that)
😂caught me so of guard... Honestly he sounds like the kinda person that'd be great to hang out with
was it your own comment?
@@paulgotik I don't understand?
It's just a huge ploy to scare everyone into compliance bc past the wall and land of ice is modern civilization like M nightshamlamadingdongs "the village"
At first I thought N+C=J was Ned plus Catelyn equals Jon which for some reason is the funniest idea for a conspiracy theory only plausible in the deepest depths of the iceberg
DUDE THAT'S IT THAT'S THE BEST CONSPIRACY EVER I LOVE IT
@@vitormelomedeiros They both just kinda forgot the whole love making + 9 months of pregnancy + birth because reasons
What if Jon and Rob were accidentally swapped when they were young, so Cat hated her true child and raised the bastard to be the ruler of the North.
@@alexturlais8558 Preston Jacobs! What are you doing here?!
I LOVE IT! And something caused everyone in ASOIAF to forget that he actually is Catelyn and Neds son! Maybe Bloodraven....?
The mad lad went 5 entire hours and I am here for it.
Im about and hour and a half in, just wondering- does he take a toilet break?
@@thisguyhere5837 you should MauLers livestreams 😂
@@ComradeCommissarYuri Mauler’s livestreams became outrageous a long time ago. Think the audience just goes in to last as long as possible now and not so much for the analysis anymore
@@badgasaurus4211most are still good
You not ready for one piece discussion streams
Alt Schwift X is the real hero of the story, the Lord's chosen, born amidst salt and smoke, he's a ham
Who has a better story than Alt Schwift X?
THE KING OF THE HAM
Alt Shift X is his sworn enemy.
A pork sandwich at the end of a tusk!
Would Feast
“Brief”
I love the theory that Azor Ahai, The Prince That Was Promised, The Last Hero, The Dragon with 3 Heads, and The Stallion that Mounts the World are actually different people from different cultures who teamed up to end the Long Night. When their powers combine they create Captain Planetos.
Reall tho imagine a yi tish, dothrakan, targaryen, and northern team up
@@miketrujillo3677 I mean a common sentiment I hear is that the White Walkers are a metaphor, or at least parallel, of global warming. So the idea that different countries and cultures would need to set aside their differences and cooperate in order to face the problem… well it’s not as far fetched as some of the theories in this video, that’s for sure.
@@AmandaDavis6130 I always like the idea that they're literally just magic ice elves and a realistic take on how humanity would view that considering most media like this portrays races living together in relative harmony but in real life we can't even get over our skin color there's no way we would be chill with the walkers
@@AmandaDavis6130 Sorry. You can't stop global warming, united, disunited, in fantasy, or in real life. Neither you can slow it down. Humans are ants and the planet Earth will warm or cool according to events much bigger than the ecosystem we are able to affect.
"Maybe the lightbringer are the friends we made along the way... "
Starving ASOIAF fans grabbing for anything to sustain life inspite of the hunger
So. Hungry.
Suprised there hasn't been made more conspiracy theories about D&D ruining season 8 and their connection to the illuminati or something
George pls.....
We’re at the point where we are making theories about jorah being azor ahai
@@wile123456 watch MauLers unbridled rage of every episode of season 8.. that should sustain yoi
Bro you don’t even know I didn’t start reading the books until after season 7 and now I’m like please finish them so I can get that nonsense that was the last two seasons out of my head lol. Not a big bookworm but god damn I couldn’t find a reason to put them down.
I won't watch a full length film, but I will watch a 5 hour stream discussing crackpot fan theories
I haven't even watched the SnyderCut because of the length, and yet here I stand
@@joaocalixto1686 the heck’s the Snyder Cut?
@@ehmabeveridge3097 Zack Snyder's Justice League
@@joaocalixto1686 and yet here you stand.
@@joaocalixto1686 SynderCut was shit. Couldn’t keep watching after an hour. Lotr extended edition was epic tho ngl.
"we're 45 minutes in and we've only covered the basically canon part, we'll have to speed it up"
I fall asleep while listening and wake up to find a 5 hour livestream
Oh Schwift
Same
Me too I only made it like 20 minutes into the stream
15 minutes then, Zzzzzz, wakes up, sees it's a 5 hour livestream, falling out of my bed....
If someone is crazy enough to list the timestamps of each theory covered, I'll add them as 'chapters' to the video timeline!
Edit: Timestamps are finished, thanks! RUclips doesn't support more than 100 chapters though lol
Do you plan to keep releasing ACOK abridged? Its been a while!
I'm watching this in chunks and I'll add more replies with further timestamps when I get through them.
Basically Canon:
2:23 R+L=J
3:18 Brynden Rivers is the 3 Eyed Crow
7:20 Baelon Greyjoy was assasinated by Euron
9:45 Robert Strong
11:00 Lyanna Stark = Knight of the Laughing Tree
13:15 Pink Letter Conspiracy
19:19 Oberyn poisoned Tywin
23:21 Fageon
25:18 Parallels between each culture's legends
30:33 Daenerys is Azor Ahai
36:44 Frey Pies
38:18 Alleras the Sphinx
40:57 The Queen of Thorns Poisoned Joffery
41:18 Dany is the rightful Queen
42:37 The Battle of Blood
First three ti- (edit: Finished!)
Tier one (basically canon)
2:22 R+L=J
3:18 Brynden rivers is the three eyed crow
7:20 Baelon Greyjoy was assasinated
9:45 Robert strong
11:00 Lyanna was the knight of the laughing tree
13:15 Pink letter conspiracy
19:20 Oberyn poisoned Tywin
23:20 Faegon
25:18 Parallels between each cultures ledgends
30:32 Daenerya is Azor Ahai
36:44 Frey pies
38:18 Alleras the Sphinx
40:57 The queen of thorns poisoned joffery
41:18 Dany is the rightful queen
42:36 The battle of blood
Tier two (Maybe...)
45:17 Jon, Dany, Tyrion similariities
46:25 Ramsey castrated theon
47:36 Benjen=coldhands
51:17 Valonquar is jamie
53:56 Jojen paste
55:55 pate = jaqen
1:03:30 Bolt on
1:07:57 Septa Lemore is serra mopatis
1:10:57 Gerion Lannister = the shrouded lord
1:13:51 Night lamp
1:14:35 Dragons are wyverns
1:19:18 Melisandra can only see the future
1:20:16 Patch face prophecies
1:22:00 Jon is azor ahai
1:22:36 Jon con = the beast of stone
1:25:02 Grand Maester Conspiracy
1:27:57 Varys planted Shae
1:28:57 Euron is the dusky woman
1:33:13 Syrio = Jaqen
1:35:08 Red wedding 2 (electric boogalo)
1:37:31 The faceless men caused the doom
1:41:02 Jon is the rightful king
1:42:06 Old powers are waking
Tier three (going deeper)
1:44:17 The Green Grace is the harpy
1:47:25 Quaith = shiera seastar
1:49:37 Arbour gold is a motif indicating deception
1:50:41 Valonquor is Tyrion
1:51:42 The North remembers
1:52:51 Frey civil war
1:53:47 Sweet robin is little finger son
1:54:43 Its literally just the war of the roses
1:55:41 Mormonts raven was warged
1:57:04 Blood raven killed Bobby B
2:00:01 Signifigance of blackstone
2:03:05 summerhall
2:07:01 Sansa is the younger queen
2:08:28 Hodor is desendent from duncan the tall
2:09:54 Septa lemore=ashara dayne
2:10:47 A+B=J
2:11:15 Merlings
2:14:41 Shavepaint poisoned the locusts
2:16:03 Cersie accidently poisoned joffery
2:16:48 Sam is in possession of the horn of winter
2:18:25 Why wyman manderly snuck in "mayhaps"
2:20:14 Perfumes sensual = tyrions ship
2:22:12 littlefinger endgame
2:25:08 "friends in the reach"
2:25:54 Ramsey and the frey in the snow (skipped) 2:31:47 (revisited)
2:26:00 John snow will remain as ghost
2:28:07 The hooded man = septon chayle
2:33:29 Daario is euron
2:35:11 Ramsey flayed lady hornwoods fingers
2:36:35 Stannis is azor ahai
2:37:42 Southron ambitions
Update:
Tier four (forum user)
2:38:59 Tywin was aware of jofferys poisonning and let it happen
2:40:14 Clegane bowl will still happen
2:43:00 Arianne Martell is the younger queen
2:44:55 L=J=J
2:45:30 Darkstar is a secret targaryan
2:46:48 Jon snow was really tormund
2:48:38 illyrio is trying to get rid of dany and visarys
2:50:12 coldhands = night king
2:51:52 grand dornish conspiracy
2:53:35 shireens true purpose
2:55:42 the children of the forest can cause earthquakes via human sacrifice
2:58:57 Varys and the antler men
2:59:32 Quentyn martell is alive
2:59:52 n+w=j
3:00:41 lightbringer is the nights watch
3:01:47 Hardhome was destroyed by valerians
3:02:29 Sam will kill euron
3:03:35 Stone snake = cold hands
3:05:09 Rorge and biter are also faceless men
3:07:01 Joffery poisoned himself
3:07:40 Mad queen cersie and jamies destiny
3:09:30 lightbringer is drogon
3:10:16 weirwood/children net
3:11:40 N+A=J
Tier five (Preston Jacobs fan)
3:13:51 The three swords of azor ahai
3:16:59 Battle for the dawn ended in a truce
3:19:24 Stannis is the night king
3:23:19 Daenerys is a fire wight
3:25:19 Great brovos conspiracy
3:27:30 Pyat Pree = Euron
3:29:20 R+L=D
3:30:12 Petyr baelish is a tragic
3:31:24 The valaquor is sir robert strong
3:32:35 Hooded man = Hallis mollen
3:33:33 Melisandra has davos luck
3:34:40 Varys is a brightflame
3:37:13 The others are misunderstood
3:40:24 The children are the bad guys
3:43:32 Sam is the main character
3:44:36 “the wall protects itself”
3:45:32 “snow men”
3:47:40 Humanoid races are the result of divergent evolution
3:48:48 Targaryen and blackfyre alliance theory
3:50:08 Varys framed Cersie
3:50:23 Aegon is the rightful king
3:50:44 Bloodraven has been manipulating everything
3:55:22 Jon show isnt coming back
3:55:48 the hound raped sansa
3:56:53 Septa lemore = lyanna stark
3:57:37 The children caused the doom of valyria
Tier six (Deepest lore)
3:58:35 Septon Reed
3:59:20 Asoiaf is a post apocalypse
4:02:58 The 7 = jamie, brienne, sandor, etc.
4:03:44 Aegon is legitimate
4:04:06 B+L=J
4:04:21 The old gods love starks
4:05:29 Robb was given a love potion
4:11:32 Daenerys is a dragonseed
4:13:38 The others built the wall
4:15:13 Valarians = first men
4:15:37 Tyrion is a targaryen chimeria
4:16:36 Khal drogos master plan
4:19:26 Ramsey is not roose's son
4:20:08 Tyrion really did poison joffery
4:20:27 humans evolved on the summer islands
4:21:03 starks are descendants of the others
4:22:23 Mance rayder = Arthur dayne
4:23:26 Lem Lemoncloak = lonmouth
4:25:40 Benjen = daario
Tier seven (crackpot)
4:27:10 Rhaego was azor ahai
4:28:43 The multiple moon theory
4:33:55 Jamie and cersie are secret targaryens
4:35:26 The age of heros are prophecies
4:36:49 N+L=J
4:37:04 Far east civilizations are just references
4:38:52 The night watchs true purpose
4:39:25 Asoiaf is a sci-fi
4:39:56 Missandei is a faceless man
4:40:22 Val is jons twin
4:41:03 Azor Ahai =/=
4:42:13 Robert strong has jamie's hand, making him the ultimate valoquor
4:43:25 Theeon is becoming the drowned god
4:44:14 Cannibal dragon on skagos
4:46:35 There must always be a stark in winterfell
4:47:21 B+A=D
4:47:48 Rhaego is still alive
4:49:04 Like 7 diffent people poisoned joffery
Tier eight (the final understanding)
4:50:09 Tyrion is the time traveling son of dany and drogo
4:51:39 Joffery and tommen are the rightful kings
4:52:43 N+C=J
4:53:32 Euron will become dany
4:54:22 Ser pounce is azor ahai
4:55:54 Sam is GRRM self insert
4:56:30 Asoiaf original draft
(If I made any mistakes please let me know)
00:00:01 - 05:00:05 Tangent
@@aug1014 I was about to post my second block, but you're watching faster than I am so I'll leave the rest to you lol.
Alt Schwift X: As George asked those questions of Lord of the rings we must ask them of Game of Thrones
Me, nodding along: Yes, what are the Night King's tax policies
Your putrid, festering seed. All of it
@@kevincarter2020 wym by seed? 🤨
I think we know what the taxes are.
1 baby per year
"Maybe the friends we made along the way poisoned Joffrey"
I don't remember who said it in the chat but it made me laugh so much
Patchface is unirionically the scariest character in asoiaf
Second to him is Moqorro, in my opinion. Mysterious character who has unclear and suspicious motives, and other guys on Victarion's ship are terrified of him.
I know! I know!
@Stannis Baratheon
“Can you fix my legs, Magic Tree Man?”
“… y e s …”
I think scariest isn't the right word to describe him, that would probably be Euron. But Patchface is definitely the creepiest.
@@antighastly I needdddd to know wtfs up with the dusky woman hissing at him
[TIMESTAMPS]
I started working on this before official timestamps were uploaded into the description but I've also included timestamps for superchat pauses and the conclusion! Just sharing cause oh boy this took a while (5 hours to be precise....)
0:00 - Introduction
2:13 - Layer 1 Start (Basically Canon)
2:15 - R+L=J
3:18 - Brynden Rivers is the 3 Eyed Crow
7:18 - Baelon Greyjoy was assassinated by Euron
9:45 - Robert Strong
11:00 - Lyanna Stark=Knight of the Laughing Tree
13:13 - Pink Letter Conspiracy
16:35 - Superchat Pause 1
19:19 - Oberyn Poisoned Tywin
21:34 - Superchat Pause 2
23:21 - fAegon
25:16 - Parallels between each culture’s legends
30:33 - Daenerys is Azor Ahai
31:58 - Superchat Pause 3
36:43 - Frey Pies
38:18 - Alleras the Sphinx
40:57 - The Queen of Thorns poisoned Joffrey
41:17 - Dany is the rightful Queen
41:56 - Superchat Pause 4
42:38 - The Battle of Blood
44:54 - Layer 2 Start (Maybe…)
45:17 - Jon, Dany, Tyrion similarities
46:25 - Ramsay castrated Theon
47:36 - Benjen=Coldhands
50:36 - Superchat Pause 5
51:16 - Valonqar is Jaime
53:54 - Jojen Paste
55:49 - Pate=Jaqen
58:39 - Superchat Pause 6
1:03:28 - Bolt On
1:06:14 - Superchat Pause 7
1:07:49 - Septa Lemore is Serra Mopatis
1:10:56 - Gerion Lannister=The Shrouded Lord
1:13:50 - Night Lamp
1:14:34 - Dragons are wyverns
1:15:24 - Superchat Pause 8
1:19:16 - Melisandre can only see the future, all other magical powers are tricks
1:20:15 - Patchface Prophecies
1:21:58 - Jon is Azor Ahai
1:22:36 - Jon Con=The Beast of Stone
1:25:01 - Grand Maester Conspiracy
1:27:55 - Varys planted Shae
1:28:55 - Euron is the Dusky Woman
1:31:49 - Superchat Pause 9
1:33:11 - Syrio = Jaqen
1:35:06 - Red Wedding 2
1:36:32 - Superchat Pause 10
1:37:31 - The Faceless Men caused the Doom
1:41:00 - Jon Snow is the rightful King
1:42:06 - Old Powers are waking
1:44:03 - Layer 3 Start (Going Deeper…)
1:44:13 - The Green Grace is the Harpy/Who is the Harpy?
1:47:24 - Quaithe=Shiera Seastar
1:49:36 - Arbour Gold is a motif indicating deception
1:50:41 - Valonqar is Tyrion
1:51:42 - The North Remembers
1:52:47 - Frey Civil War
1:53:46 - Sweet Robin is Little Finger’s son
1:54:42 - It’s literally just the War of the Roses
1:55:40 - Mormont’s raven was warged
1:57:03 - Bloodraven killed Bobby B (Robert Baratheon)
1:58:44 - Superchat Pause 11
1:59:58 - Significance of Blackstone being everywhere
2:03:04 - Summerhall Theory
2:04:38 - Identities of the 6 Dragons
2:06:45 - Superchat Pause 12
2:06:58 - Sansa Stark is the younger queen
2:08:27 - Hodor is descended from Duncan the Tall
2:09:53 - Septa Lemore=Ashara Dayne
2:10:47 - A+B=J
2:11:13 - Merlings
2:12:43 - Superchat Pause 13
2:14:39 - Shavepate poisoned the locusts
2:16:02 - Cersei accidentally poisoned Joffrey
2:16:45 - Sam is in possession of the Horn of Winter
2:18:24 - Why Wyman Manderly snuck in a “mayhaps”
2:20:13 - Perfumed seneschal=Tyrion’s ship
2:22:10 - Little Finger Endgame
2:25:07 - “Friends in the Reach”
2:25:51 - Ramsay and the Frey in the snow (confusion)
2:26:00 - Jon Snow will remain as Ghost
2:28:05 - The Hooded Man=Septon Chayle
2:29:34 - Superchat Pause 14
2:31:44 - Ramsay and the Frey in the snow (clarification)
2:32:44 - Superchat Pause 14 continued
2:33:28 - Daario is Euron
2:35:11 - Ramsay flayed Lady Hornwood’s fingers
2:36:34 - Stannis is Azor Ahai
2:37:41 - Southron Ambitions
2:38:56 - Layer 4 Start (Forum User)
2:39:00 - Tywin was fully aware of Joffrey’s poisoning and purposefully let it happen
2:40:13 - Cleganebowl will still happen
2:42:58 - Arianne Martell is the younger queen
2:43:44 - Superchat Pause 15
2:44:53 - L+J=J (confusion)
2:45:30 - Darkstar is a secret Targaryen
2:46:25 - L+J=J (clarification)
2:46:45 - “Jon Snow” was really Tormund Giantsbane
2:48:38 - Illyrio was trying to get rid of Viserys and Daenerys
2:50:11 - Coldhands=Night's King
2:51:51 - Grand Dornish Conspiracy
2:53:34 - Shireen’s true purpose
2:55:01 - Superchat Pause 16
2:55:39 - The Children of the Forest can cause earthquakes via human sacrifice
2:58:55 - Varys and the Antler Men
2:59:30 - Quentyn Martell is alive
2:59:51 - N+W=J
3:00:40 - Lightbringer is the Night’s Watch
3:01:46 - Hardhome was destroyed by Valyrians
3:02:28 - Sam will kill Euron
3:03:34 - Stonesnake=Coldhands
3:05:07 - Rorge and Biter are also Faceless Men
3:07:01 - Joffery poisoned himself
3:07:40 - Mad Queen Cersei and Jaime’s destiny
3:09:30 - Lightbringer is Drogon
3:10:16 - Weirwood/Children Net
3:11:40 - N+A=J
3:13:50 - Layer 5 Start (Preston Jacobs Fan)
3:13:51 - The three swords of Azor Ahai=Rhaegar, Aegon, and Jon
3:16:58 - Battle for the Dawn ended in a truce
3:19:23 - Stannis is the Night’s King
3:20:14 - Hydration Check!
3:20:24 - Stannis is the Night’s King continued
3:22:26 - Superchat Pause 17
3:23:17 - Daenerys is a Fire Wight
3:25:17 - Great Braavosi Conspiracy
3:27:28 - Pyat Pree=Euron
3:29:18 - R+L=D
3:30:11 - Petyr Baelish is a tragic
3:31:23 - The Valonqar is Ser Robert Strong
3:32:32 - Hooded Man=Hallis Mollen
3:33:33 - Melisandre has Davos’ “luck”
3:34:41 - Varys is a Brightflame
3:37:02 - Superchat Pause 18
3:37:12 - The Others are misunderstood and simply fighting for their survival
3:40:22 - The Children are the bad guys
3:42:46 - Superchat Pause 19
3:43:30 - Sam is the main character
3:44:35 - “The Wall protects itself”
3:45:31 - “Snow Men”
3:47:11 - Superchat Pause 20
3:47:39 - Humanoid races are the result of divergent evolution
3:48:47 - Targaryen and Blackfyre Alliance Theory
3:50:08 - Varys framed Cersei
3:50:22 - Aegon is the rightful King
3:50:43 - Bloodraven has been manipulating everything for hundreds of years
3:52:52 - Superchat Pause 21
3:55:21 - Jon Snow ain’t coming back
3:55:47 - The Hound raped Sansa
3:56:52 - Septa Lemore=Lyanna Stark
3:57:36 - The Children caused the Doom of Valyria
3:58:31 - Layer 6 Start (Deepest Lore)
3:58:34 - Septon Reed
3:59:18 - ASOIAF is a Post-Apocalyptic story
4:02:57 - The 7 = Jaime, Brienne, Sandor, Gendry, Dany, Cat, and Davos
4:03:43 - Aegon is legitimate
4:04:06 - B+L=J
4:04:20 - The Old Gods love the Starks
4:05:28 - Robb was given a love potion
4:11:31 - Daenerys is a dragonseed
4:12:28 - Superchat Pause 22
4:13:35 - The Others built the Wall to mark their territory
4:15:11 - Valyrians=First Men
4:15:37 - Tyrion is a Targaryen chimera
4:16:34 - Khal Drogo’s Master Plan
4:19:25 - Ramsay is not Roose’s son
4:20:01 - Tyrion really did poison Joffrey
4:20:26 - Humans evolved on the Summer Islands
4:21:02 - Starks are descendents of the Others
4:22:22 - Mance Rayder=Arthur Dayne
4:23:26 - Lem Lemoncloak=Richard Lonmouth
4:25:16 - Superchat Pause 23
4:25:39 - Benjen=Daario
4:27:09 - Layer 7 Start (Crackpot)
4:27:10 - Rhaego was Azor Ahai
4:28:18 - Superchat Pause 24
4:28:41 - The Multiple Moon Theory
4:33:55 - Jaime and Cersei are secret Targaryens
4:35:25 - The Age of Heroes=Prophecies for what is currently happening
4:36:48 - N+L=J
4:37:03 - Far East civilizations are just references to other works and should not be taken seriously
4:38:50 - The Night’s Watch’s true purpose
4:39:20 - ASOIAF is a Sci-Fi Story
4:39:54 - Missandei is a Faceless Man
4:40:21 - Val is Jon’s twin
4:41:02 - Azor Ahai =/= The Prince That Was Promised =/= The Last Hero =/= The Dragon with 3 Heads =/= The Stallion That Mounts The World
4:42:12 - Robert Strong has Jaime’s hand making him the ultimate Valonqar
4:43:23 - Theon is becoming the Drowned God
4:44:13 - Cannibal dragon on Skagos
4:46:34 - THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A STARK IN WINTERFELL
4:47:20 - B+A=D
4:47:47 - Rhaego is still alive
4:49:04 - Like 7 different people poisoned Joffrey because he was a fucking cunt
4:49:35 - Layer 8 Start (THE FINAL UNDERSTANDING)
4:50:08 - Tyrion is the time-travelling son/fetus of Daenerys and Drogo
4:51:39 - Joffrey and Tommen are the rightful Kings
4:52:42 - N+C=J
4:53:30 - Euron will become Daenerys
4:54:21 - Ser Pounce is Azor Ahai
4:55:54 - Sam is a GRRM self insert
4:56:20 - ASOIAF Original Draft (DO NOT RESEARCH)
4:57:46 - Planetos Full Map
4:57:55 - Conclusion
4:58:19 - Superchat Pause 25
4:59:54 - End
Goddamn thanks
This should be pinned
you are a hero mate
Pls pin this comment
I don't know why the headlines made me laugh so many times.
the ultimate theory is that GRRM only truly wrote the first book, the rest he's waited for fans to develop through theories before compiling the best ones into subsequent books
I like the theory that books 6&7 are finished and will only be released once he dies
@@cflow2013 he's an artist. All artist have their magnum opis but they tend to try not rest on their laurels and instead strive for further meaning in new art
That's evil genius.
You know, ive seen so many youtubers come up with infinitely more interesting plot points for various shows that this seems like a viable idea.
@@cflow2013 no matter what he does, he’s going to be horrifically harassed and bullied by significant portions of his fanbase so I really wouldn’t be surprised if he waits to publish at least ADoS posthumously so he doesn’t have to deal with shitty people attacking real humans because their favourite fictional character got sniped
I am 100% in favor of an animated ASOIF adaptation. If they do it, then it needs to be book accurate and not just an animated version of GoT. That way they can do the magical aspects of the story without needing 80 billion for an FX budget. They can actually do the Lady Stoneheart story, as well as having actual scale for the Mountain, the Hound, Robert Baratheon... Etc. The way they appear in the book rather than making do with live action actors who can't possibly be accurate. If they did it in the style of the animated DC movies, I think it would be a smashing success.
And the character can actually get mutilated.. Tyrion and Brienne specifically
There would be some searing hot debate about some of those iceberg theories being left out of the production.
"Dany is the rightful Queen"
*"A lie. Take it out."*
-Stannis Baratheon
If Aegon the Conqueror’s claim was legitimized through combat, then so was Robert’s. By law, Stannis is the rightful king unless Dany actually reconquered Westeros.
@@SpiralSine6
Preach it baby
Woody
OK, I'll let you have this one. Stannis is the rightful Queen. I hope you feel better now.
@@happyaxolotl3736
All I ever wanted. Stannis is best girl.
GRRM: *writes a story that criticizes the monarchy, and uses line like “power resides where men believes it resides” to emphasize that these power struggles and fights over who has “the best claim” is completely arbitrary.*
Stannis fanboys: “I’m gonna pretend I didn’t hear that.”
N + C = J: Jon is the only trueborn son of Ned and Cat, but Ned gaslighted Catlyn into believing that all of his bastards were her sons and her only son was a bastard
Gaslight
Gatekeep
Girlboss
I'd enjoy this being turned into a show
Re: Frey pies. Wyman Manderly is a stickler for guest right, but... there are technicalities. He gave the missing Freys horses as guest gifts, a custom that is no longer universally followed in Westeros, thus formally ending the host/guest relationship and basically making them fair game for revenge. He also brought his own provisions when he brought his men to Winterfell, so he hasn't eaten any of Roose Bolton's bread and salt...
New theory just dropped: Jaime is a time lord and his hand will be used to generate a clone of himself to be with Cersei while the real Jaime saves the world
A meta Jaime!!
The biggest conspiracy of them all is he's actually the same person as that alt shift x person. Crazy I know, but their voices sound the same so I'm taking that as 100% incontrovertible evidence that they are in fact, the same person.
Jaime showed his golden hand to his beloved sister.
"I am inevitable", he answered.
Fear started to draw itself on Cersei's face as she saw the fingers of the golden hand moving and snapping before coming back to normal. Immediately, she started to feel a strange pain coming from the inside.
"Jaime... I don't feel so good", she said.
But when she finally noticed that her body was slowly being shred to ashes, she saw only apathy in Jaime's face
Jaime Targaryen
Handy spare hand
I heard a theory that Alt Schwift X = Alt Shift X, but that's just too wild. Honestly, that would be an insult to my boy schwift.
That's kinda out there, I've seen photos of Shift hunting endangered wildlife and then posting the trophy pics
Evil twins
@@ruigerd Sounds like something he'd do
@@ruigerd You think who killed all the dragons last time around ?
@@marcinkrz3140 Occam's razor suggest that the shape shifting immortal ser Pounce seems like the most simple and obvious answer
Hey Schwift you dont get enough praise for crediting the artists' work you feature. So many theory & analysis channels neglect the artists they get their assets from and you are dope AF for shouting them out.
Based on all the theories I've heard over the years, I have concluded that everyone in the book is a secret Targ, and I mean everyone, even the smallfolk, the horses, the pigs, the sheep, the trees, and so on. Very tiny iceberg.
Based.
Makes sense
Everyone except dany
The real Lemongate
@@daniel15yearsago66
Haha. Oh, that's right. Dany is a secret Stark.
Only an hour in, and so far "Roose Bolton's Flayed skin onsie" is my favourite bit. I'm going deeper
EDIT: "Raegar was impotent and Lyana... fuckin'... spontaneously combusted."
It got better.
‘And also like, since Syrio said “What do we say to the god of death? Not today” that seems like kind of a contradiction against the ideology of the faceless men…. Surely the faceless men say to the god of death, “yes today and tomorrow, every day bro, we’ve death priests”’ F'n iconic XD
Might be a plot hole or inconsistency infact a lot of these are easily explainable that way.
Syrio is also from Braavos; AKA where the Faceless Men have their temple. Of course Braavosi culture is all about confronting death.
@@JoshSweetvale Certainly seems like you couldn't be a Braavosi without having an opinion on the matter. The faceless men seem rather like a "with us or against us" kind of crew
@@mc-funk Braavos is also the city of freed slaves, which are the Many-Faced God's demographic, the aforementioned god is also _syncretic,_ worshiping him is paying respect to the gods of all cultures, which encourages trade. The Iron Bank, to go full circle, is pretty much implied to be the Faceless Men's biggest customer. The whole city's culture is _very_ well-designed by Martin.
I don't recall him ever saying this in the books. What he really says, and what Arya keeps repeating to herself is "Fear cuts deeper than swords." So if we're talking about TWOW, then this show quote means absolutely nothing.
Darkstar cut Myrcella to get a blood sample so he can perform a ritual to transform himself into Alice Cooper
Bro. He's of the night.
To add to the grave digger theory, every named horse is named after an aspect of their owner that is lost during the story; Dancer (Bran), Smiler (Theon), Honour and Glory (Jamie), and Sandor’s horse Stranger (the god of death). Having a notorious warrior become a peaceful monk would show him losing his relationship with death/killing.
Arya's horse was named Craven.
One problem, silver, dany's horse doesn't fit in that
@@jeannebouwman1970 silver is a filly. A child-horse. Dany lost her childhood and innocence when she was sold to the Dothraki
@@sleekoduck craven means coward. Arya lost her childlike cowardice during her training and what happened to her
In the books danny also lost her silver hair
My first time hearing about shireen's grayscale being the stone dragon. Very cool theory.
George R. R. Martin said at one point that one of our main POV characters descend from Duncan the Tall. And in Feast, Brienne has her shield painted to the likeness of "a shield she saw in her father's armory" with a tree and a falling star.
N+D=J.
I’ve now come to firmly believe that everyone, in the entire universe of ASOIAF is either:
• A Targaryen
• An Other
• Bloodraven
U forgot euron greyjoy
you forgot howland reed
The shrouded lord too
and a horse and a time travelling fetus
you forgot a faceless man
Jon Snow resurection theory: Lady Stoneheart revives him the same way Beric revived her. By giving him life, she's basically becoming the mother she wasn't in her previous life.
that would be great but location is a big issue
I love this idea but don't know if it makes sense. Stoneheart is almost completely seperare from Catelynn and she's not close enough
I 100% agree with this. It would also pass souls on from Beric to Jon via Stoneheart. This way all the azor ahai stuff Beric was doing, lighting his sword ext. is explained because now his soul is in Jon so he now has azor ahai soul
She could also crown Jon seeing that she has Rob’s crown....
@@kaisermccheese6486 Location? man, the writer says "put the ruler and stopwatch aside and enjoy the reading"
I am so watching every second of it, this video is better than the last 2 seasons of the show
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It's stated that Drogo married Dany specifically because he was a one in a generation uber-Khal, and he wanted a unique bride, not some random dothraki chick
I always saw the stench of Tywin’s corpse as an allusion to the death of William the Conqueror. There are a few similarities. Both men struggled with family legacy, Tywin having his relationship with his incest kids and the dwarf reflection of himself who he despises, while William spent the last half of his reign waging war with his son. When William died, his body bloated, and when they tried to fit it into his tomb he burst due to some internal gasses I think. The stench was apparently so repulsive that it filled the whole church. That’s always what I think of when I hear about Tywin’s death.
Robert curthose was also quite short so that could allude to Tyrion
To support the theory that the night watch is lightbringer, in their vows they literally say : « I’m the sword in the darkness, the light that brings the dawn »
I never thoughts about it before but now it sounds obvious
The light that brings the dawn, a light bringer? Dawn? Hmmmm of course im a total sucker for the Daynes.
“What’s it called when you use a lady like a milk cow?” Gold Sentence
Tim stamps By Aug 101
Tier one (basically canon)
2:22 R+L=J
3:18 Brynden rivers is the three eyed crow
7:20 Baelon Greyjoy was assasinated
9:45 Robert strong
11:00 Lyanna was the knight of the laughing tree
13:15 Pink letter conspiracy
19:20 Oberyn poisoned Tywin
23:20 Faegon
25:18 Parallels between each cultures ledgends
30:32 Daenerya is Azor Ahai
36:44 Frey pies
38:18 Alleras the Sphinx
40:57 The queen of thorns poisoned joffery
41:18 Dany is the rightful queen
42:36 The battle of blood
Tier two (Maybe...)
45:17 Jon, Dany, Tyrion similariities
46:25 Ramsey castrated theon
47:36 Benjen=coldhands
51:17 Valonquar is jamie
53:56 Jojen paste
55:55 pate = jaqen
1:03:30 Bolt on
1:07:57 Septa Lemore is serra mopatis
1:10:57 Gerion Lannister = the shrouded lord
1:13:51 Night lamp
1:14:35 Dragons are wyverns
1:19:18 Melisandra can only see the future
1:20:16 Patch face prophecies
1:22:00 Jon is azor ahai
1:22:36 Jon con = the beast of stone
1:25:02 Grand Maester Conspiracy
1:27:57 Varys planted Shae
1:28:57 Euron is the dusky woman
1:33:13 Syrio = Jaqen
1:35:08 Red wedding 2 (electric boogalo)
1:37:31 The faceless men caused the doom
1:41:02 Jon is the rightful king
1:42:06 Old powers are waking
Tier three (going deeper)
1:44:17 The Green Grace is the harpy
1:47:25 Quaith = shiera seastar
1:49:37 Arbour gold is a motif indicating deception
1:50:41 Valonquor is Tyrion
1:51:42 The North remembers
1:52:51 Frey civil war
1:53:47 Sweet robin is little finger son
1:54:43 Its literally just the war of the roses
1:55:41 Mormonts raven was warged
1:57:04 Blood raven killed Bobby B
2:00:01 Signifigance of blackstone
2:03:05 summerhall
2:07:01 Sansa is the younger queen
2:08:28 Hodor is desendent from duncan the tall
2:09:54 Septa lemore=ashara dayne
2:10:47 A+B=J
2:11:15 Merlings
2:14:41 Shavepaint poisoned the locusts
2:16:03 Cersie accidently poisoned joffery
2:16:48 Sam is in possession of the horn of winter
2:18:25 Why wyman manderly snuck in "mayhaps"
2:20:14 Perfumes sensual = tyrions ship
2:22:12 littlefinger endgame
2:25:08 "friends in the reach"
2:25:54 Ramsey and the frey in the snow (skipped) 2:31:47 (revisited)
2:26:00 John snow will remain as ghost
2:28:07 The hooded man = septon chayle
2:33:29 Daario is euron
2:35:11 Ramsey flayed lady hornwoods fingers
2:36:35 Stannis is azor ahai
2:37:42 Southron ambitions
Update:
Tier four (forum user)
2:38:59 Tywin was aware of jofferys poisonning and let it happen
2:40:14 Clegane bowl will still happen
2:43:00 Arianne Martell is the younger queen
2:44:55 L=J=J
2:45:30 Darkstar is a secret targaryan
2:46:48 Jon snow was really tormund
2:48:38 illyrio is trying to get rid of dany and visarys
2:50:12 coldhands = night king
2:51:52 grand dornish conspiracy
2:53:35 shireens true purpose
2:55:42 the children of the forest can cause earthquakes via human sacrifice
2:58:57 Varys and the antler men
2:59:32 Quentyn martell is alive
2:59:52 n+w=j
3:00:41 lightbringer is the nights watch
3:01:47 Hardhome was destroyed by valerians
3:02:29 Sam will kill euron
3:03:35 Stone snake = cold hands
3:05:09 Rorge and biter are also faceless men
3:07:01 Joffery poisoned himself
3:07:40 Mad queen cersie and jamies destiny
3:09:30 lightbringer is drogon
3:10:16 weirwood/children net
3:11:40 N+A=J
Tier five (Preston Jacobs fan)
3:13:51 The three swords of azor ahai
3:16:59 Battle for the dawn ended in a truce
3:19:24 Stannis is the night king
3:23:19 Daenerys is a fire wight
3:25:19 Great brovos conspiracy
3:27:30 Pyat Pree = Euron
3:29:20 R+L=D
3:30:12 Petyr baelish is a tragic
3:31:24 The valaquor is sir robert strong
3:32:35 Hooded man = Hallis mollen
3:33:33 Melisandra has davos luck
3:34:40 Varys is a brightflame
3:37:13 The others are misunderstood
3:40:24 The children are the bad guys
3:43:32 Sam is the main character
3:44:36 “the wall protects itself”
3:45:32 “snow men”
3:47:40 Humanoid races are the result of divergent evolution
3:48:48 Targaryen and blackfyre alliance theory
3:50:08 Varys framed Cersie
3:50:23 Aegon is the rightful king
3:50:44 Bloodraven has been manipulating everything
3:55:22 Jon show isnt coming back
3:55:48 the hound raped sansa
3:56:53 Septa lemore = lyanna stark
3:57:37 The children caused the doom of valyria
Tier six (Deepest lore)
3:58:35 Septon Reed
3:59:20 Asoiaf is a post apocalypse
4:02:58 The 7 = jamie, brienne, sandor, etc.
4:03:44 Aegon is legitimate
4:04:06 B+L=J
4:04:21 The old gods love starks
4:05:29 Robb was given a love potion
4:11:32 Daenerys is a dragonseed
4:13:38 The others built the wall
4:15:13 Valarians = first men
4:15:37 Tyrion is a targaryen chimeria
4:16:36 Khal drogos master plan
4:19:26 Ramsey is not roose's son
4:20:08 Tyrion really did poison joffery
4:20:27 humans evolved on the summer islands
4:21:03 starks are descendants of the others
4:22:23 Mance rayder = Arthur dayne
4:23:26 Lem Lemoncloak = lonmouth
4:25:40 Benjen = daario
Tier seven (crackpot)
4:27:10 Rhaego was azor ahai
4:28:43 The multiple moon theory
4:33:55 Jamie and cersie are secret targaryens
4:35:26 The age of heros are prophecies
4:36:49 N+L=J
4:37:04 Far east civilizations are just references
4:38:52 The night watchs true purpose
4:39:25 Asoiaf is a sci-fi
4:39:56 Missandei is a faceless man
4:40:22 Val is jons twin
4:41:03 Azor Ahai =/=
4:42:13 Robert strong has jamie's hand, making him the ultimate valoquor
4:43:25 Theeon is becoming the drowned god
4:44:14 Cannibal dragon on skagos
4:46:35 There must always be a stark in winterfell
4:47:21 B+A=D
4:47:48 Rhaego is still alive
4:49:04 Like 7 diffent people poisoned joffery
Tier eight (the final understanding)
4:50:09 Tyrion is the time traveling son of dany and drogo
4:51:39 Joffery and tommen are the rightful kings
4:52:43 N+C=J
4:53:32 Euron will become dany
4:54:22 Ser pounce is azor ahai
4:55:54 Sam is GRRM self insert
4:56:30 Asoiaf original draft
Hope this gets pinned or liked. Very useful!
Woah thanks for this upvote upvote upvote
@@mschell8022 we call it a like here redditard
@@raaaaaaaaaam496 What a stupid, minor thing to get upset about
@@mschell8022 I’m not upset bud
The explanation I tend to go with is that Bloodraven isn't specifically sending directed messages to Bran. It's more of general call to anyone who might have the power. There's some belief Euron also got the call, but it flipped him out. The crow is simply how the messenger appears to Bran and is something Bloodraven isn't in control of. Another person might see it as something different.
my man is on 99/100 chapter summaries, and instead he uploads 5 more hours of meme reviews. Nice
William the Conquerors body also ended up causing a huge stink in a church. The burial was delayed, the corpse swelled and when they tried to push it into the tomb it burst.
Fits his legacy. England sucks.
@@vitormelomedeiros based
Interesting.
@@vitormelomedeiros he wasn't technically English. So I think the true meaning is: William the Conqueror sucked.
@@diogene_s8032 both?
Both is good.
"Raeghar was impotent and Lyanna spontaneously combusted". You got me good there. 4:53:11
My favourite theory that I never see mentioned is that Craster was the one thing holding the White Walkers back. The White Walkers made a deal with someone, probably the Nights King that they were to be given living human babies as tribute to prevent them attacking. Craster was the last person maintaining this deal.
That is good this is the first time I heard of that theory.
But the white walkers were becoming increasingly active before craster was killed
What's the point of making more white walkers if not to take over the South?
@@cadeconner519 maybe they got bored? Scratching that 5000 year itch
Craster is not the hero we wanted but he is the one we needed.
I’ve now seen Bald Arya (some might call her varya) two times too many
She shaves her head to keep her backfire heritage a secret.
Winter is coming means that since the Night King was a Stark and married the "winter lady", the Stark made winter come. It's just a boast that they're good lovers.
Winter is coming has half a dozen different meanings. One is a warning of the Zombie Apocalypse, another is a boast about the Kings of Winter using Russian-esque deep-defense tactics, and also a threat akin to "a Lannister pays his debts."
"The whole 'rightful king' thing is always debatable". That is something that makes me laugh: The series is all about criticizing the monarchy, but you have all these fans getting into heated debates on if Stannis or Jon or Dany is the "true" ruler. "Power resides where men believe it resides" indeed.
If you play the game of thrones, you win or you die
As someone involved in many fandoms, it seems fans are always terrible at paying attention to themes.
@@alexturlais8558 muh themes
Regardless of "themes" there is still a rightful ruler
@@npickle54 no there isn't, it's a pretty debated point. Jon, Dany, Joffrey, and Stannis have pretty good legal claims. Renly and Robb both have claims thats are pretty decent too.
Take a shot everytime you hear the story of Azor Ahai.
At 1:02:40 alt forgets what a wet nurse is called and uses the description "when you use a lady like a milk cow". Thats one of the funniest things ive seen in a while
Seeing as most prophecies in ASOIAF seem to come true in unexpected ways; I think that the Dothraki Crones’ ‘stallion that mounts the world’ prophecy will come true, not through Rhaego, but through Drogon.
In a way, Drogon was born of Danaerys and Khal Drogo, seeing as Drogo’s death was likely part of the blood magic that helped birth the dragon eggs. The dragon being named for him creates another facet of Drogo’s involvement in the birth. I think Drogon is the prophecised ‘child’ of Danaerys and Khal Drogo.
I like this
And a stallion and dragon are both mounts.
Thinking about your light bringer Azor Ahai/dragon taming thing, and thinking about the most famous sacrifice in the books so far- Dany tries and fails to sacrifice a horse for Drogo. When that fails, she then decides to sacrifice herself on a pyre, but that fails, too, and the dragons are born instead. Is she simultaneously Azor Ahai and Nissa Nissa, and has already created her own Lightbringer (ie her dragons)? That would switch up a trope/offer a twist in a way George would like and play into his whole idea that magic is tricky and doesn't always work in a straightforward way. People think it's Jon stabbing Dany or something, but the sacrifice having already taken place would be cool. Do they need additional magic swords when Valyrian steel seems to do the trick?
oh my god the GOAT with 5 hours of content? am i dreaming?
1:48:11 🤣 whoever made that fan art, mad props
Varys said he swapped the baby who subbed in for Aegon for a bottle of arbour gold, so if Aegon is a blackfire this is a seperate case of arbour gold as a motif in a deception
Love it
Missed theories:
- Tyrell conspiracy
- Mance tried to kill Bran
- Tourney of Ashford is Sansa's fate
- Genetics of Ice and Fire
- H+A=M+J
Ashford was in part 1
@@darthbricksempire3606 half of these were in part 1
Big fan of H+A=M+J
@@SpiderEmblem is that Howland+Ashara=Meera+Jojen ?
@@AleksandarIvanov69 Yeah. I actually really liked that one, and it's one of the first theories I saw.
“Oooh doggy, that would be a bad time” is a phrase I will use from now on
other youtubers: I’ll stop the stream now, it’s getting a bit too long
Alt: *5 hours into streaming* so anyway, the horn of winter
I love how show watchers are gunna pick up TWOW to see what happens to Khaleesi and are instead met with Euron Greyjoy literally being a demon and summoning dark powers from the deep. I honestly think TWOW is going to be so good, but it's going to get a bad reception
I’m genuinely thinking that most people won’t be so dumb as to hate on the book without having read any of the previous ones (I know, bad to presume people won’t be dumb, but still)
Watching these reminds me I should reread the books. Last time was like 2015
I feel like it might a Cyberpunk situation. People wait for a new game for years and when its released it doesn’t meet expectations. Possibly even because GRRM is rushed to finish it.
@@DwRockett oh, of course they will. It'll be a lot of news and pop culture websites waiting four hours after release to write about how there's a massive backlash while citing like three illiterate nobodies on Twitter complaining and garnering virtually no likes or retweets, which then will be cited in later articles referring to it as "The controversial Winds of Winter" and eventually they'll manage to actually poison people against the book, all for them to generate traffic and get like 30 more cents from a supposedly woke deodorant company that buys adspace. It will be entombed in a pyramid of grifters and shills before people even read it
@@skibobshipoddlypop shit that’s way too realistic of a scenario
Theory: Robert Strong is exactly who he's said to be
That would be the biggest plot twist, that a character is just who they appear to be. He's just some tall dude because Westeros has more than one tall person.
Well the strongs are extinct
@@evanmack8527 What if he's the last one, hiding right beside the last Raynes 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@evanmack8527 aren’t they only extinct in the male line? Their blood likely made it into houses Baratheon and Velaryon because those houses took on two of Lucamore Strong’s three families as wards. So I guess technically they’re probably still alive and well
He’s the son of Robert Baratheon.
Robert Baratheon went by Robert Strong while on campaign during Robert’s Rebellion: “Gods, I was Strong back then.”
Robert Strong is named after his father, who went by Robert Strong. Since he has the surname Strong means he is trueborn.
Like Robert Baratheon, Robert Strong is a huge powerful man.
Finally, Arryn straight-up tells us: “The seed is Strong.”
“How did 2 people take down the Tower of Joy?!?!?”
Me: “they played catapult JENGA!!”
They had C4
The ”Robb was given a love potion” theory was probably the most shocking too me
Chocking?
@@mschell8022 Dammit
@@adamgrogory haha I was like "wow is there a big theory about chocking that I've completely missed??"
It's called, being a teenager.
This was, quite literally, the most entertaining 5 hours I've spent in a long, long time.
Idk who is crazier, you for making a 5 hour video or me for loving it til the end. Great work, Shifty
I would say that Littlefinger DOES pretty much make it up as he goes along, as you put it. I see Baelish and Varys as being polar opposites in terms of their strategy: Varys has this grand master plan, puppeteering Dany, Viserys, Drogo, furthering WotFK, whereas we see several times where Littlefinger explores several options at once, such as with Ned and Cersei in book 1, or (and I know this is show only) when he speaks to Catelyn, Renly, AND Margaery about their own separate plots, playing every side for his own benefit. Varys is meticulous, Littlefinger is opportunistic. Varys plays the long game, Littlefinger is more concerned with the short term, creating chaos and playing it to his advantage.
I heard you say brief and took a quick gander at the video length-5 HOURS, so extremely brief. Perfect.
I think Melisandre's chapter implies she isn't quite like Berric. It's not that she died and was ressurected and then boom fire-wight, it seems as she practices her craft as a red preist she sort of slowly becomes like a fire wight, and that's why she is very old and doesn't need to eat and barely needs to sleep. By the time of the main series, she's *almost* there IMO.
I’ve always loved the idea of the Stark words “Winter is Coming” actually being a threat / boast of Stark power, having its origins in some kind of Stark / Other alliance or potentially even the earliest kings of winter simply having more knowledge and control over their ice and warging magics
2:36:29 that hornwood finger thing should be on the first tier tbh, the evidence for it is reek in adwd says that ramsay flayed his fingers, and the pain was so bad that reek begged ramsay to cut it off and ramsay obliged since that was his whole plan. so ramsay probably flayed lady hornwood's fingers, but she probably just said 'fuck you' and ramsay left her to starve in a tower since he wasnt getting any pleasure from torturing her and the pain got so bad that she tried or succeeded in biting off her own finger, then later starved to death, which caused the rumours that she was so hungry she started eating her fingers. just way too plausible tbh
"The lady, like a milk cow... what is it called?
...WET NURSE"
I snorted. ( 1:02:46 )
5 hours of pure entertainment. He deserves much more following
What if Coldhands is Brynden's body and mind having warged into a random corpse? What if the trees have taken on Brynden's form but the real Brynden is inside a corpse? It would match the prior way GRRM writes about hiveminds. What if what we know of as 'Bloodraven' is just something that stole his form and is using his form to bring about humanity's extinction as a bioweapon?
ASX misses H+A = J+M: I really wanted to hear about that
Me noticing Howland = Jojen: Oh, it’s ok, he’ll cover it there
ASX misses Howland = Jojen: Burn them all
This is perfect to listen to on a work day, you the man Shwifty.
The next iceberg he does should be one he makes himself and at least 6 hours long
Probably the best comment
Truly deserves thousands of likes
When they say Ned pulled the Tower of Joy down, they mean Ned told some peasants and servants to pull the Tower down. Lords don't do hard labor. Even the down to earth Ned Stark.
Agreed, it might have been a very normal demolition job over time, there's nothing crazy going on there.
Turns out Ned Stark was actually as bad as Maegor the cruel and killed all the peasants that took down the tower.
@@alexturlais8558 who are we to say? The quiet wolf might refer to the fact that he leaves no witnesses!
@@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx Ned Wick
I think Penny's role in the story is to demonstrate how he hasn't completely broken bad yet. On multiple occasions he goes out of his way to keep Penny alive, when it would have been much easier for him and Jorah to ditch her as soon as possible. Her performing act did become instrumental in keeping Tyrion alive later but he had no way of knowing that in their early journey. I think Tyrion either killing Penny or letting her get killed will be a crucial part of his arc when he completely abandons any pretence that he's a good person.
Or perhaps it will be when he abandons his self loathing. He'll think, "fuck it, I'm a monster and I'm gonna own it rather than hate myself". That would serve as a fucked up parallel to what Jaime did when everyone hated him for killing Aerys, so he formed his personality as someone who didn't care what anyone thought and would do any horrible thing.
“Mel has Davos’s Luck”
Idk but I think theory refers to the idea that either she or one of her supporters will glamor themselves as Davos, probably in order to counsel Stannis (and more than likely to convince him to make a bad decision).
Thank you Alt Schwift X- Martin may have forgotten us but you're still here!
I fucking love the idea of Tormund Giantsbane becoming a decoy Jon Snow and getting so into it that he actually starts to believe he is the real Jon.
TIMESTAMPS:
- Tier 1:
2:15 - R+L=J
3:18 - Brynden Rivers is the Three-eyed Crow
7:18 - Baelon Greyjoy was killed by Euron
9:45 - Robert Strong
11:00 - The Knight of the Laughing Tree
13:15 - The Pink Letter conspiracy
19:19 - Oberyn poisoned Tywin
23:21 - Fageon
25:19 - Parallel's between each culture's legends
30:33 - Daenerys is Azor Ahai
36:44 - Frey pies
38:18 - Alerras the Sprhinx's true identity
40:57 - The Queen of Thorns poisoned Joffrey
41:18 - Dany is the rightful ruler
42:38 - The Battle of Blood
*not mentioned: Gravedigger
- Tier 2:
45:17 - Jon/Dany/Tyrion similarities
46:26 - Ramsay snipped Theon
47:36 - Benjen = Coldhands
51:16 - Valonqar is Jamie
53:56 - Jojen paste
55:50 - Pate = Jaqen
1:03:29 - Bolt ON
1:07:55 - Septa Lamore is Serra Mopatis
1:10:56 - Gerion Lannister = The Shrouded Lord
1:13:50 - Night lamp
1:14:34 - Dragons are wyverns
1:16:04 - (superchat theory) Howland warged into Arthur Dayne
1:19:16 - Mellisandre can only see the future...
1:20:15 - Patchface prophecies
1:21:58 - Jon is Azor Ahai
1:22:36 - Jon Con = The Beast of Stone
1:25:01 - Grand Maester Conspiracy
1:27:56 - Varys planted Shae
1:28:56 - Euron is the Dusky Woman
1:33:11 - Syrio = Jaqen
1:35:06 - Red Wedding 2...
1:37:30 - The Faceless Men causes the Doom
1:41:01 - Jon is the rightful ruler
1:42:05 - Old powers are waking
*not mentioned: Jon will be Ressurected
- Tier 3:
1:44:16 - The Green Grace is the Harpy
1:47:23 - Quaithe = Shiera Seastar
1:49:36 - Arbour Gold is a motif indicating deception
1:50:40 - Valonqar is Tyrion
1:51:42 - The North Remembers
1:52:50 - Frey Civil War
1:52:46 - Sweet Robin is Little Finger's son
1:54:42 - It's literally just the war of the roses
1:55:40 - Mormont's raven was warged
1:57:02 - Bloodraven killed Bobby B
1:59:58 - Significance of Blackstone being everywhere
2:03:03 - Summerhall Theory
2:04:38 - Identities of the six dragons
2:06:58 - Sansa Stark is the Younger Queen
2:08:27 - Hodor is descended from Duncan the Tall
2:09:53 - Septa Lamore = Ashara Dayne
2:10:45 - A + B = J
2:11:14 - Merlings
2:14:40 - Shavepate poisoned the Locusts
2:16:01 - Cersei accidentally poisoned Joffrey
2:16:45 - Sam is in possession of the Horn of Winter
2:18:23 - Why Wyman Manderly snuck in a "mayhaps"
2:20:12 - Perfumed Seneschal = Tyrion's ship
2:22:10 - Little Finger's endgame
2:25:05 - Friends in the Reach
2:25:52 - Ramsay and the Frey in the snow (???)
2:25:59 - Jon Snow will remain as Ghost
2:28:05 - The Hooded Man = Septon Chayle/Theon's guilt
2:33:28 - Daario is Euron
2:35:10 - Ramsay flayed Lady Hornwood's fingers
2:36:35 - Stannis is Azor Ahai
2:37:42 - Southron ambitions
- Tier 4:
2:38:58 - Tywin knew of Joffrey's poisoning and let it happen
2:40:15 - Clegane Bowl will still happen
2:43:00 - Arrianne Martell is the Younger Queen
2:44:52 - L + J = J
2:45:33 - Darkstar is a Secret Targaryen
2:46:46 - Jon Snow was really Tormund
2:48:38 - Ilyrio was trying to get rid of Dani and Viserys
2:50:12 - Coldhands = Nightking
2:51:52 - Grand Dornish conspiracy
2:53:35 - Shireen's true purpose
2:55:40 - The CotF can cause earthquakes
2:58:56 - Varys and the Antler Men
2:59:51 - N + W = J
3:00:41 - Lightbringer is the Nightwatch
3:01:46 - Harholme was destroyed by Valyrians
3:02:30 - Sam will kill Euron
3:03:34 - Stonesnake = Coldhands
3:05:08 - Rorge and Biter are Faceless men
3:07:00 - Joffrey poisoned himself
3:07:44 - Mad Queen Cersei and Jamie's destiny
3:09:30 - Lightbringer is Drogon
3:10:16 - Weirwood Net
3:11:41 - N + A = J
*not mentioned: Tyrell conspiracy, Mance tried to kill Bran, Genetics of Ice and Fire
- Tier 5:
3:13:51 - The three swords of Azor Ahai = Rhaegar, Aegon and Jon
3:16:58 - The Battle for the Dawn ended in a truce
3:19:25 - Stannis is the Nightking
3:23:19 - Daenerys is fire wight
3:25:19 - Great Braavosi conspiracy
3:27:29 - Pyat Pree = Euron
3:29:23 - R + L = D
3:30:11 - Peter Baelish's tragedy
3:31:25 - Valonqar is Ser Robert Strong
3:32:33 - Hooded Man = Hallis Mollen
3:33:34 - Mellisandre has Davos' "luck"
3:34:40 - Varys is a Brightflame
3:37:13 - The Others are misunderstood
3:40:23 - The CotF are the baddies
3:43:32 - Sam is the Main Character
3:44:35 - The Wall protects itself
3:45:30 - "Snow men"
3:47:40 - Humanoid races are the result of evolution
3:48:47 - Targaryen and Blackfyre alliance
3:50:08 - Varys framed Cersei (???)
3:50:22 - Aegon is the rightful ruler
3:55:22 - Jon ain't coming back
3:55:49 - The Hound raped Sansa
3:56:52 - Septa Lamore = Lyanna Stark
3:57:35 - The CotF cause the Doom
*not mentioned: H + A = M + J, Unifying theory of magic,
- Tier 6:
3:58:40 - Septon Reed
3:59:20 - aSoIaF is a post-apocalyptic story
4:02:57 - The 7 = Jamie, Brienne, Sandor Gendry, Dany, Cat and Davos
4:03:43 - Aegon is legitimate
4:04:06 - B + L = J
4:04:21 - The Old Gods love the Starks
4:05:29 - Robb was given a love potion
4:11:31 - Daenerys is a Dragonseed
4:13:37 - The others built the wall
4:15:10 - Valyrians = First Men
4:15:38 - Tyrion is a Targaryen Chimeria
4:16:37 - Khal Drogo's master plan
4:19:26 - Ramsey is not Roose's son
4:20:08 - Tyrion poisoned Joffrey
4:20:27 - Humans evolved on the Summer Isles
4:21:03 - Starks are descendants of the Others
4:22:22 - Mance Rayder = Arthur Dayne
4:23:27 - Lem Lemoncloak = Richard Lonmouth
4:25:40 - Benjen = Daario
*not mentioned: Ned's alive, Howland = Jojen
- Tier 7:
4:27:10 - Rhaego was Azor Ahai
4:28:43 - The Multiple Moons theory
4:33:55 - Jamie and Cersei are secret Targaryens
4:35:26 - The Age of Heroes = Prophecies...
4:36:49 - N + L = J
4:37:04 - Far East civilizations are just references...
4:38:51 - The Nightwatch's true purpose
4:39:25 - aSoIaF is a Sci-fi story
4:39:55 - Missandei is a Faceless Man
4:40:22 - Val is Jon's twin
4:41:03 - Azor Ahai != The Prince...
4:42:14 - Robert Strong has Jamie's hand...
4:43:25 - Theon is becoming the Drowned God
4:44:13 - Cannibal Dragon on Skagos
4:46:36 - There must always be a Stark in Winterfell
4:47:21 - B + A = D
4:47:48 - Rhaego is still alive
4:49:04 - Like 7 different people poisoned Joffrey...
- Tier 8 (only for the bravest of braves):
4:50:08 - The Time-traveling fetus
4:51:40 - Joffrey and Tommen are the rightful rulers
4:52:42 - N + C = J
4:53:32 - Euron will become Daenerys
4:54:21 - Ser Pounce is Azor Ahai
4:55:54 - Sam IS GRRM
4:56:20 - aSoIaF Original Draft
*not mentioned: Planetos full map
This was terrific!!
Absolutely loved how his voice and manner of speaking became more chaotic over time
'Preston Jacobs Fan' as a tier, called me the fuck out, I love it
I watch of TON of these GoT analyzers and I'm sure you've heard this before - but your's are BY FAR the best. Born with the great voice, but the hard work that goes into your videos shines through, and want to express my genuine appreciation for pointing out all the details I miss despite several readings :) Thanks for still brining fresh content!
This is gonna be my falling asleep to video for the next month damn
Even if you're starting to change your mind on the theory that Oberyn poisoned Tywin, I think there's still a couple of points you're neglecting:
The biggest evidence Tywin was poisoned isn't that his corpse stinks, but to quote two comments from Brendan Fechter and Kristjan Kangro on the last video:
A) Pycelles long description of Widows Blood where all the other poisons he just rattles off the names.
B) Prior to and during his trial, there are several times when Tyrion describes Tywin's appearance as someone who may have been poisoned.
However there's another aspect to it, which is that's actually thematically appropriate. Not with regards to Tywin, but with regards to "The Dornish Master Plan":
Oberyn and Doran concocted an elaborate scheme to have Oberyn poison Tywin, get accused of the murder, invoke Trial by Combat, and then kill the Mountain during that. There's already symbolism that Doran's schemes are overly elaborate and excessively "patient" to the extent they're already rotten before they're even carried out.
If this theory is true, Oberyn and Doran's plan failed on every SINGLE point because of stuff they didn't predict:
Oberyn didn't get accused of Tywin's murder, Tyrion got accused of Joffrey's Murder.
Not only was it Tyrion to invoke Trial by Combat rather than Oberyn, Oberyn wasn't even the first pick for his champion. If either Jaime or Bronn hadn't refused, Oberyn would be watching someone else fighting the Mountain instead of doing it himself.
Oberyn doesn't kill the Mountain during their combat, but is so focused on the plan of extracting a confession he looses. No matter if the Mountain's days were numbered after the fight, he won the fight itself.
Having Tyrion kill Tywin while he was already slowly dying from Oberyn's poison would be the final nail in the plan's coffin: The point isn't that it's meaningless whether Tyrion shot Tywin because he was already dying; the point is it's meaningless whether Oberyn managed to poison Tywin before he was killed himself, Tyrion would have had to kill him anyway during the escape.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, it can even be thematically tied to another incident involving Tyrion and Tywin specifically: At the Battle of the Green Fork, Tyrion admired how his father looked as a regal mastermind treating humans as Cyvasse pieces. Except Tywin's "master plan" failed miserable, in part because he had planned for the Hill Tribesmen to break, and they didn't.
If this theory is true, there's a very central theme tying together Tywin, Tyrion and Doran: you can't treat life as a chess game where you can concoct a "master plan" in you head and just sit back and watch it unfold. Life and other people are unpredictable, and no plan survives contact with either.
It makes me really sad that there is a genuine possibility that these questions might never be answered. I really hope George finishes the books. But who are we to expect him to do that? Ahhhhh i can't take it
Regarding the identity of the harpy, I thought the show missed a cool opportunity to bring back Xaro Xhoan Daxos. It's not unbelievable if he had some kind of contingency plan for the safe, a secret exit or an employee to open it etc. Might have been fun
Oh shot, 5 hours?? Just found out what's getting me through the day
Next theory: Joff had a food allergy.
lol do ANY allergies ever come up in ASOIAF?
If not I'm 100% spending my next Spring in Westeros lol
This came out at midnight for me last night. I saw it and went LET'S GO! Fell asleep 2 hours in and thought I'd wake up today to finish off whatever I nodded off for and I find 3 MORE HOURS! Best way to start a morning
You should make a tier list of your favourite game of thrones theories. It doesn't have to be ranked on what is most plausible, but what you think thematically and story wise is most enjoyable/satisfying (ie Season 8 Twists would be below F tier as narrative beats for example)
This is a great idea.
Glidus has a ranking, if you are interested.
-Yeah 3 eyed crow is pretty weird.
"you the 3 eyed crow?"
"I was in the Watch, so a crow I guess, and I was said to have a thousand and one eyes, so sure I have 3 eyes"
-A Lannister King (Tommen II, I think?) took Brightroar and went to Valyria after the Doom. He was lost as was the sword.
Also, iirc Gerion is Jaime's favorite uncle as well.
The longer george waits to release Winds the more we descend into the pit of despair and iceberg theories, slowly losing grasp on reality while contemplating every possible outcome all at once.
What if WE are the three eyed raven? Did we get absolutely pranked by george?
I believe historically, speaking of inheritance, should the first born die before the king, the firstborn’s firstborn would then be the new heir. If this works in Westeros, Jon (or Faegon if he is Aegon) is the true heir, even if they’re younger
Yeah, in England, right now, Charles is the heir. Then William. If Elizabeth outlives Charles, William is still the heir. He is still above any of Elizabeth's other kids. So, if Young Griff is considered legit, he would have the claim over Jon Snow (because he's older, true born) and Dany (she's the younger to Rhaeger)
2 minutes in: ”I’m going to try and be brief”
*Looks at video length*
Said Benjen to Bloodraven, "Let me dye my beard and go set sail, then be back in two shakes of a lamb's tail."
I think Robb married Jeyne just because he had "dishonor" her, but she wasn't pregnant. Doesn't she say to Catelyn that they're trying to make a baby?
Well even though Robb is not completely stupid in the books and does not bring her to the red wedding she was given moon tea so no kid for Robb.
1:02:40 "you know... When you use a lady like a milk cow" 😂😂😂
From someone who has been starving for Shift content this is amazing
5 Hours of prime verbal AGOT-related entertainment to supplement my day!