The Zach Lavine Kings Are WEIRD...
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Since trading for Zach Lavine, the Kings have not been playing well… it is obviously still early but there are concerning signs for the Kings in the post De’Aaron Fox era.
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As a bulls fan, I find it hard to believe that a Lavine / DeRozan pairing does not work 😮
Bro.. compare that pairing to the other pairing in the NBA ! Clearly not it. Not optimal or complementary.
@@teddyleandre sarc
@teddyleandre guess you dont realize he is talking about demar/ zach in chicago... this team has basically already been tried, but with different supporting cast.
2 game seeing Zach, he looks like a good 6th man. Terrible shot selection and terrible defense
Even the supporting cast is similar in play style. @@SpinSatx
Keegan Murray’s development fumble is criminal
Taking him over Ivey will always be crazy
Development fumble? Bro HES responsible for getting better. If you ain't getting better that's on you.
?? He came into the league at age 22 what kind of development are you expecting in 2.5 seasons?
His Defense and Rebounding has got significantly better. On the offensive side, his development has stalled due him not getting touches and having to guard the other team's best player!
Well take him in Detroit if you’re ready to move on
Everyone in Sac is afraid to say it--DeRozan to the bench. Mike Brown was thinking it before he got fired but honestly it kinda makes sense. He's 35. Give him 20 MPG and make sure he stays healthy. DeRozan doesn't really need anyone else to create his own shot. Pair him with defenders/guys who aren't really playmakers but can still shoot (Carter, LaRavia, Lyles).
The other 5 (Ellis, Monk, Lavine, Murray, Sabonis) can RUN. They like to be in transition. That's the next generation of the run and gun team.
Sac is saying it. Derozan isn’t listening.
💯 it's that or run a lineup of Monk, Lavine DeRozan Murray and Sabonis but I like a potential Ellis, Monk Lavine Murray Sabonis lineup more. Ellis and Murray are future we need to develop them and give them time to score.
This is a fair assessment of the Kings, but I'm surprised you made a video this quickly. Zach literally missed a few games because he and his wife had their 3rd child, then he literally got off the plane and he had to play a back-to-back with a whole new team. They haven't had any time to practice. Also, Zach looks confused on DHOs because he never had a center who is a great passer like Sabonis. All the other things I agree with and you can definitely tell they have more talent on the roster, but they have NO chemistry or flow. I love the Valanciunas and LaRavia (a 6'8 wing who can shoot and play decent defense from the Grizz) pickups. They provide outstanding depth for Sabonis and Keegan Murray. Now, they need a backup PG and then they're set.
I agree except that Zach Lavine has played with Nikola Vucevic for years who is a great passer in his own right. The issue is that the Bulls don't really run DHOs. They're 29th in league for that play type.
Backup pg? They need a starting pg.
@@laz0ramaI'd say Ellis can be our starting PG, we definitely need an actual PG at depth tho cause we got Monk or Ellis both more SG playing PG. Ellis can stay at PG tho.
Keegan Murray probably the most important player on defense. The only one who can guard PF and good SF
You commenters here are obviously addicted to "instant gratification." LaVine just gets off the plane from Chicago and he has to play in back-to-back games having never practiced with the Kings. Likewise for Valanciunas. Relax already.
the problem is that Kings fans been seeing the same thing from the organization for YEARS. They make trades and get all these future picks and cannot develop talent. The culture isnt a winning culture. Nobody is dedicated from the Front Office to the coaches and staff.
Its 2 games with new players, says nothing.
Lol the kings are not a good team stop lying to yourself
Saying “Keon is the only guy who defends” right after talking bout Keegan and not giving him any flowers for his defense is crazy. Keegan is Sac’s best defender by far and takes the #1 matchup every game
I don’t think you want to trade Keegan… I think you need Keegan and another guy like Keegan. Another SF/PF who can guard the perimeter and bash a little bit. Keegan’s on ball defense is awesome, but when he’s guarding a guard one of the guards has to guard a big. It’s a matchup nightmare because you’re trying to pretend that Derozan or LaVine is a SF and can matchup against a Naz Reid or Franz Wagner while Keegan guards Banchero or Ant… it doesn’t work.
No one is perfect but Only God is.
They have the same problems they had with fox. The only thing that sticks out about lavine on the team right now is that they're failing to incorporate him. If they figure it out then it'll most likely be a better team than the start of the season. Especially since they got another wing and backup c
Between DeRozan, Lavine & Monk all taking 20 shots a night, theyre pushing Domas and Murray to the side(keegan only had like 10 shots, and Domas had 6 last game). Defenses arent worrying about 2/5s of the line up offensively. Nobody is facilitating right now, and they dont have a good backup pg off the bench.
Murray was red hot against the Wolves in the first quarter, and Kings didnt get him a shot rest of the game. This is a trend that keeps happening and throwing Murray off.
It almost feels ike they are trying to supress his numbers so they dont have to pay him as much when these contract negotiations coming up next year... its probably an nba thing all around, but I've watched the kings do it to alot of their high draft picks over the years.
@2gfranklin maybe, could just be they're pushing Keegan to the side for the other high paid "talent". Sabonis already got his bag, but him only getting 6 shots its crazy.
Is this city upset with the owner? I would be livid but it is also expected sadly
@@BiggidyB the city stays upset with Vivik, guy doesn't know anything about basketball. Constantly makes boneheaded decisions.
@@BiggidyBWe hated Vivek for YEARS lol I mean grateful as hell he helped save the team from leaving and got the G1C built but for many seasons he essentially ran the team instead of the GM and has just screwed us so much
Lavine can be a great scorer at times, but he can make a lot of bad decisions. Maybe a third option on a good team and a second option on a terrible team. He and Demar need a true point guard to make them go, Lonzo did that for half a season.
I don’t know what anybody else expected from this team
The defense is soooo bad... like its keon and murray trying to stop ENTIRE teams while sabonis gets cooked by nearly every center in the league and everyone else stands around waiting to sprint back for a fast break... its hard to watch.
It's way too early to tell. Give it 10-15 games at least. They got 2 more new impact players so it will take some time.
3:28 They swapped out Fox because he forced his way out. They had no choice.
Makes sense.....how do you not get Castle or even Ball from the trade?
Because the Spurs told them that Castle is untouchable. Kid scored 33pts today. He is huge part of the Spurs future.
The Kings had no leverage since Fox told the whole league that his preference was San Antonio. All the Spurs had to do was sit and wait bc they knew Fox would come the following year. The Kings were the desperate ones who had to move on and try to get something now or they would eventually get nothing.
It’s time to start involving Keagan Murray in some spot up plays bruh Lavine and DeRozan gotta chill on ball privileges
I just thought Lavine and Derozan will get the most shots and Sabonis would average 20 assist
I’d say the major problem(as a die hard kings fan who watched every game) is that the same problems are here after the trade. The trade did not solve any problems because length and defense is still the obvious issue. Every team Sac plays they shoot such a high 3% because of the lack of wing defense
If were all in on win now, i think our best 5 for finishing games are: monk/lavine/derozan/domas/jonas. Have the skill players zone defense the perimeter and let the bigs hold down the paint.
Sacramento Bulls let's go!!!
Derozan and Lavine are similar type of players offensively and most definitely on defense.
They should've tried to get lonzo also and reunite the bulls.
The Sacramento Bulls.
Honestly they should, Demar and Zach need that connecting piece to unlock the both of them
That would’ve been a better deal tbh and they’d at least be a playoff team
Dont think lonzo was gon get traded. He honestly speeds up a rebuild
SACs unwillingness to do a full rebuild is their biggest issue. Vessel or castle with someone like sochan should have been a non negotiable in the deal and they should of wanted no part of Lavine.
They just haven't been able to connect we literally got 2 players(Lavine/Valanciunas) on game day. No time to practice or connect with the team. Once they find it though, they'll be a good team
it's actually funny that they saw DeRozan and Lavine not work in Chicago and thought hmmm let's give that another run
They should and probably will try monk lavine demar sabonis val. It’s definitely an experiment, but worst case scenario, they get to use their pick this year. 1-12 it’s theirs, below that it’s atlanta’s. Sacramento and maybe Portland are probably improving in the standings.
I think they didn’t have enough time to practice and organize it so it’s too fast to say WEIRD
So trying demar/lavine as your main guys has all ready been proving, it doesn't work. They need a point guard
Give them a week, they will figure how to play for each other.
Zachs skill set is actually quite remarkable. Hes one of the best tuff shot making perimeter players ever while also having maybe the worst basketball mind ive ever had the pleasure of watching. Hes gonna drive that kings tank.
NBA should be fair but that’s not the case.
Everyday changes in life but it sucks that some players get traded or some players don’t get traded. It’s very confusing on their current situation on the team and their contract.
It will be fine, derozen took a while to get in the mix to
Kings went from a heavy pass team to a heavy iso team
God bless you and your family and friends too.
Sign ben simmons and markelle fultz
Theres ur 2 pgs call it done
Its a whole new team. Its going to take time to gel
The BIGGEST problem with the Kings, is and has been that we haven't had a General Manager that understands how to build a team since Geoff Petrie!! Vlade Divak was a mess.. McNair isn't much better.. This team is poorly constructed, and lacks integral pieces.. We need a GM that understands the game and is able to put proper chess pieces in place instead of a board full of checkers..
This is just last year's bulls with sabonis in the vucivic role
Life is short and life is hard.
Hear me out Markelle fultz
It’s Only because Zo was injured. If Zo was healthy the bulls would be a top 4 team before they Traded Caruso
I know I know if wishes were fishes
No they wouldn't. Even if they managed the 4th seed they would have 0%chance to make it out the second round
@@patrickhanlon2325 Yup, no defensive long wings and no shot-blocking rebounding center. It was doomed to fail.
Gonna give it few games for them to connect as a team, 2026 gonna be exciting.
NBA is a business first and then family second.
It is getting more crazier, complicated, and more weirdo.
Great idea let's trade our only wing
as a bulls fan, im sorry sacramento, its your turn.
Not that I think they're gonna be good with this trade, but it's def far far too early. I think they'll be a .500 team ad currently built.
fox was not the creator lol. monk has, & will be. it’s been a minute now…
Kings need a true PG. I like LaVine, and he will blend in eventually, but he's not a point guard.
Hear me out. Maybe they should sign Ben Simmons.
Actually like it
He knows how to read the floor well, can play some defense and not be relied on to score. Just an assist and defend guy as his role wouldn't be a bad fit for him and what they need.
I don’t think Simmons wants to sign there and I don’t think that works anyways unless you’re putting Simmons in instead of Valancunas since the spacing would be really terrible otherwise and that creates another issue with size which makes their defense even worse, their net rating on defense is 4 worse than what it normally is when they don’t have a center on the court.
Should've signed Nolan Smith and Luke Babbitt SMFH
So Monte was so in awe of the Chicago teams the past few years... that he decided to create the Sacramento Bulls?
This team is going nowhere. Demar and Zach just DONT work together without a great and fast PG.
To the Kings fans who think it's unfair to judge the DeMar and Zach pairing off of 2 games... It won't get better. This was what my Chicago Bulls went through the last few years. They're two iso guys who NEED a pass-first point guard to set the table for them. Without a point who can take the ball handling duties off of them, they're just black holes who have the ability to disrupt their teammate's rhythm. Welcome to mediocrity guys! 😂
The Zach lavine kings are very weird…he’s not involved in the offense much besides a few bail out shots with the shot clock expiring. They also just put him in the corner to shoot 3s which isn’t really his game. From what I can gather in the first two games, he’ll end up as the PG.
It seems like Zach just wasn’t used to how the kings play, there were times in both games where it just looked like he didn’t really know how to play off Sabonis and ended up getting a contested shots because of it. But once he figures out how to play with Sabonis I think he’ll be a really good fit.
Kings needed defense this year so of course they went the opposite direction.
Ngl id say make lavine or DeRozan 6 man. We were winning without Fox before we got lavine. It's not about pride we either have to win or tank rn. I'd say DeRozan. U can still give him lots of minutes. But I still think Monk and Ellis should start
it'd be really cool if the kings had tyrese haliburton rn
Sabonis > Hali
The problem is there is no REAL PG on this team. Also can’t have Keon Ellis not starting. Need Demar as 6th man
Dennis Schroder would a be good pick up!!!!
zach hasnt played for like a week bro was taking care of his new baby. they will figure it out
You need Vuc and Billy Donovan... than it will be perfect !!
it's been two games ffs
Struggling magic team? They’re the 2nd best defense in the league
Bro is struggling for content lmao. They only played 2 games with LaVine and 1 with Jonas. Full team plays tonight.
Bruh chill it’s takes time to build chemistry next year is our year
Demar will probably want out this offseason if they miss the playoffs
@ doubt it
Lavine will give you points and a lot of losses. Forever
Why’d he put lipstick on Zach? 😂
Soo sac needs a PG? Lol
They just built the bulls haha
Just here to remind you guys two years ago Sacramento was relevant….and then they went back to being a dumpster fire in RECORD TIME and it’s all because they decided to get Demar Derozan who didn’t fit their team in the first place
So many Kings fans yelled at me because I said they’d be bad and I didn’t get the DeRozan thing
@@SLExtra-xc4mv I had the same thought when that notification
Derozan didn’t make them miss the playoffs last year
Its not on derozan. Its because Fox gave up on the team. Derozan is an upgrade from Barnes
It's NOT DeRozan. Fox simply gave up on this team. DeMar has literally won several games in the clutch for the Kings this year. He's an absolute stud. Look at several of the games they lost....Fox was not playing well or was completely unfocused. That 4-point game-winner foul he allowed by crashing into Jaden Ivey was one of several games they lost because he did not play well. I don't blame Fox entirely because the Kings owner is horrible and put Fox in a tough place, esp not having a press conference after firing Mike Brown. Fox got blamed when he did nothing wrong. The owner is so impulsive and has no clue how to run a franchise but he insists to dictate and micromanage the team where Monte McNair cannot do his job.
Monk should’ve been traded for a PG. Lonzo maybe 😭😭😭😭
But… all my fellow Kings fans said he was better than Fox and our savior 😂
Monk is awesome and is on a steal of a contract. And he is the most efficient playing off Sabonis out of anyone on the Kings pre Deaaron Fox trade. Trading him would be a disaster.
They should trade demar or lavine for Durant. Get a forward who spaces the floor and fits there offense only focus
They should also trade for prime Jordan
sac should have traded for zach in the summer and kept fox. why did they ever sign derozen? he ain’t a modern player. sac is such a shit organization
kings are mess
Wow
Zach is trash period. For every three he splashes he make like 5 dumb decisions on the court facts ive watched him on the bulls for years.
Lifelong Kings fan. Love Doug but he's too new to navigate this quickly. Brown would've done wonders with this current team 😭
The 13-18, about 10 years head coaching and zero titles, got fired 4 times and couldnt cook with Lebron 5 years and one of the highest salaries in the league - that Brown?
@GodsLoveBeWithYou 😂 Uh, I said better than Doug dippy. This team, along with the Suns, Lakers, Warriors, etc aren't winning this year. You're a dolt brother.
@GodsLoveBeWithYou And the same guy who snapped a 16 year drought with the most embarrassing basketball team in recent memory.
@@Jay-p3f4k Hard to make the playoffs when you start 13-18 under an awful coach who overpractices his players, spams DHOs and isos, doesn't adjust, wacky rotations, who punishes role players with DNPs even after they play well, micro manages, doesn't play his best defender/2nd best shooter and lost the locker room.
13-18 with one of the easiest schedules in the league up to that point, no less..
They made the playoffs 2 seasons ago because they got Sabonis, Monk, Huerter, Lyles, Keegan. They overhauled the roster and the more input Mike Brown put into the team the worse they've gotten
@@Jay-p3f4k Hard to make the playoffs when you start 13-18 under an awful coach who overpractices his players, spams DHOs and isos, doesn't adjust, wacky rotations, who punishes role players with DNPs even after they play well, micro manages, doesn't play his best defender/2nd best shooter and lost the locker room.
13-18 with one of the easiest schedules in the league up to that point, no less..
They made the playoffs 2 seasons ago because they got Sabonis, Monk, Huerter, Lyles, Keegan. They overhauled the roster and the more input Mike Brown put into the team the worse they've gotten
As a Bulls fan I'm so glad Lavine is gone🙏
get rid of Demar Derozan