Hi Steven, thanks a lot for the video, really helpful and nice points touched cleaning-wise. However, I have a Mignon Zero at home and I actually don't find the bellows that flimsy, if you apply a steady pressure without discontinuing the contact, you will never experience the issue you demonstrated. I actually would have loved to see a quick set-up tips for dialing in on various types of brews though. Thanks!
Thanks for this; very good & honest piece. I have a Facile (I think that's its name; there are versions & versions) which is the bottom of the line. Or was when I bought it a couple years ago. I use it as a single dose espresso grinder with a third party bellows from a Québec company, Café Fabrique. It works very well and, as you report, gives me within 0.1/.2 grams of what I put in. I'm currently experimenting having removed the metal "clump buster / de-electrifier" gizmo in the chute. Contrary to what I expected, it *does* make a difference. Mainly to the "fluffy" quality of the dose. But I'm not sure, given I do a couple of distribution steps later, it is significant otherwise -- even with respect to how much grind remains in the chute. I've also experimented with a stand that tilts the grinder. But I *don't* think that's a good idea because there are likely (based on a recent clean out) ground spraying all over the place inside the housing rather than shooting out the chute. All of which is to say, I think I'm good with the setup I have. Certainly that hopper / blower thing at $150 CD as an upgrade is a joke. Thanks again!
Is the Zero's anti-electricity technology the same as the DF64's or Fellow Ode's "ionizer/plasma generator" tech? This is looking more preferable to the whole DF64 craze where grinder models are cranked out with glaring design deficiencies. Thankyou for the review 👊
I am comparing this against Mignon Single Dose, dose bigger 65mm and coated burr will give any differences in ground result agains Zero 55mm and non diamond coated, thank you
Thanks for the review! I just found an open-box Zero for $50.00 off, plus a $75.00 promotional. I consider it a steal at $374.00. I was originally interested in the Specialita, but HATED the touch-screen timed dose nonsense. (I will use this for espresso only.)
After a lot of research finally bought a Mignon Zero grinder, it's a amazing piece of art. However I've been struggling with the very little amount of information about the different settings in the dialing knob. I couldn't find so far any microns per mark chart (from zero point) for example. In some cases I saw information about the 3 full turns in the dial (from zero point) being the total range of settings from turkish to french press (0 to 1400 microns), and some others that mentions that is only 1.5 full turns for the full range (again, 0 to 1400 microns). So, pretty confused right now, is there any piece of information about this? Is the full range for the Mignon Zero 3 full turns to the dial knob?
I own the Mignon Zero Brew. Watching the video, I see that you're wrapping the ballows around the outer rim of the bean chamber; I squeeze the ballows into the interior with good results.
Are the burrs on your brew version the same 55mm as the Brew Pro? I can't find a zero brew in USA so was going to get a zero and use the burrs from a brew pro
Was thinking about this one, but choosed mignon + original single dose hopper and bellow + incline stand with wood tray and lid from etsy. Received eureka mignon single dose, but with screen.
Awesome, thanks for this really good review of it :D I'll just get a Filtro / Crono and get the bellow on the side instead since it doesn't seem to be the best bellow system around. I'm surprised, i was expecting it to be really good since they're "official" and made by Eureka but oh well.
Hey, can you advise if the eureka mignon oro single dose has the same ease to clean and the grind adjuster is on bottom burrs so can clean without it adjusting the setting. Thanks
Can you install the Brew Pro 55mm brewed coffee specific burrs into this? Not seeing the zero brew sold anywhere in USA. Any idea how this compares with the Brew Pro? It's $200 cheaper for the zero in USA I'm guessing this is the only difference between the zero and zero brew
If you close the adjuster fully the thing stops working and only buzzes. It made me freak out. And when you turn the adjuster to fine it makes a very nasty sound when at the end of it's range. Feels like I´m damaging the machine..am I? I think it's a weird customer experience!
Kinda seemed like a weird choice for Eureka to make the Oro Single Doser first instead of this, especially when it wasn't initially ready. So much less work since this machine was already built (Specialita) just needed some single dose mods :D THEN they could work on making the Oro SD with 64mm burrs into a proper grinder. Looks like the bellows is similar or the same as the Oro one. I had a 3d printed single dosing hopper and 3rd party bellows that isn't even meant to be a bellows and it worked so much better on my Specialita (also worked on the Oro SD). Generally the Eureka burr (in espresso oriented grinders at least) produce a wider particle distribution and are not amazing for filter / coarser brew methods. Also many people complain the knob style isn't so intuitive for switching back and forth between brew methods (It's like 1.5 or 2.5 rotations... so easy to lose track of where your settings were). I'm curious how the filter burr works for espresso, since brew oriented burrs typically have less fines, they can make some good high clarity but really light body espresso shots I believe.
I'm wondering if you've had a chance to open/clean the Zero's chute. I've done as much as cleaning the burrs/chamber. But I'm having trouble removing the front plate because one of the screws sits right under the larger grind dial.
You should be able to unscrew the grind dial and then have easy access to the front plate! I definitely recommend getting in there and cleaning the chute every once in awhile.
@@HomeGroundsCoffee Thanks so much for taking the time to reply! This'll help a lot. I don't want to damage the dial (or the finish) by trying to angle a screwdriver to get at that screw.
Is there a third party made tilt stand available for the Eureka Zero? (prefereably in europe) Is the footprint of the Zero identical to that of the Specialita?
For just a bit more money the Eureka Mignon XL is the way to go. It's from the Oro family and absolutely spanks the Zero and the Specialita all day long.
Great question! I have not personally tried the df64. That being said, it has larger burrs and should be more suited for filter coffee. However, the Eureka is built incredibly well from a company with a solid reputation!
Is this a replacement for the Mignon Single Dose? Because I can't find it on sale anymore and also read a lot of negative reviews (at least for the early samples).
Single dose is still available here in canada the updated version is definitely better but not perfect. Just got one to try out myself. Chute still feels like its clogging up and bellows needs a good beating to force enough air through. Update: it is a much better grinder when you just don't use the bellows. Forget it exists or comes with it. It might be helpful when grinding coarser for another brew method besides espresso but purging a few coffee beans in that case is better. Seems like the bellows is just a feature added for marketing.
@@BensCoffeeRants, I bought Zero last Monday and it retains almost nothing - 0.1-0.2 grams on average which is pretty good IMO. And it cost me 400 euros, which is a bit cheaper than SD.
@@BensCoffeeRants, it works (kinda), although, in order to really push all remaining grinds you need to push it multiple times. For me it usually requires up to 7-8 pushes.
@@isharamet Sounds like too much effort. Retention on my Oro SD was good enough it didn't really need a bellows and then it worked better without it. Dose consistency was better that way which is important for Espresso consistency.
Great review! To sum up...Eureka Mignon Zero is Eureka Specialita without display screen and with single dosing hopper & more annoying bits. I can't help but thinking this is just another cash grab grinder Eureka creates to get into single dosing grinder market.....rather disappointing...
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What are your thoughts on this grinder? Something worth looking into purchasing?
Great review 👏🏼 you gained a new subscriber. Will you please make a comparison video, comparing the Eureka Zero vs Eureka Oro vs Niche Zero? Thanks!
thank you, in your opinion is the result in cup really better with the Eureka 65mm burrs (mignon Turbo, Mignon XL, ORO)?
Solid, balanced review of the pros and cons of the Zero. In particular, I appreciated how you demonstrated the flimsy bellows operation.
Hi Steven, thanks a lot for the video, really helpful and nice points touched cleaning-wise. However, I have a Mignon Zero at home and I actually don't find the bellows that flimsy, if you apply a steady pressure without discontinuing the contact, you will never experience the issue you demonstrated. I actually would have loved to see a quick set-up tips for dialing in on various types of brews though. Thanks!
Thanks for this; very good & honest piece. I have a Facile (I think that's its name; there are versions & versions) which is the bottom of the line. Or was when I bought it a couple years ago. I use it as a single dose espresso grinder with a third party bellows from a Québec company, Café Fabrique. It works very well and, as you report, gives me within 0.1/.2 grams of what I put in. I'm currently experimenting having removed the metal "clump buster / de-electrifier" gizmo in the chute. Contrary to what I expected, it *does* make a difference. Mainly to the "fluffy" quality of the dose. But I'm not sure, given I do a couple of distribution steps later, it is significant otherwise -- even with respect to how much grind remains in the chute. I've also experimented with a stand that tilts the grinder. But I *don't* think that's a good idea because there are likely (based on a recent clean out) ground spraying all over the place inside the housing rather than shooting out the chute. All of which is to say, I think I'm good with the setup I have. Certainly that hopper / blower thing at $150 CD as an upgrade is a joke. Thanks again!
Is the Zero's anti-electricity technology the same as the DF64's or Fellow Ode's "ionizer/plasma generator" tech? This is looking more preferable to the whole DF64 craze where grinder models are cranked out with glaring design deficiencies.
Thankyou for the review 👊
I am comparing this against Mignon Single Dose, dose bigger 65mm and coated burr will give any differences in ground result agains Zero 55mm and non diamond coated, thank you
Thanks for the review! I just found an open-box Zero for $50.00 off, plus a $75.00 promotional. I consider it a steal at $374.00. I was originally interested in the Specialita, but HATED the touch-screen timed dose nonsense. (I will use this for espresso only.)
Hello do you like it?
After a lot of research finally bought a Mignon Zero grinder, it's a amazing piece of art. However I've been struggling with the very little amount of information about the different settings in the dialing knob. I couldn't find so far any microns per mark chart (from zero point) for example. In some cases I saw information about the 3 full turns in the dial (from zero point) being the total range of settings from turkish to french press (0 to 1400 microns), and some others that mentions that is only 1.5 full turns for the full range (again, 0 to 1400 microns). So, pretty confused right now, is there any piece of information about this? Is the full range for the Mignon Zero 3 full turns to the dial knob?
How would you rate this vs a niche zero, dedicated espresso and for only milk drinks. I enjoy mostly medium roast, some lighter too
thank you, in your opinion is the result in cup really better with the 65mm burrs?
I own the Mignon Zero Brew. Watching the video, I see that you're wrapping the ballows around the outer rim of the bean chamber; I squeeze the ballows into the interior with good results.
Are the burrs on your brew version the same 55mm as the Brew Pro? I can't find a zero brew in USA so was going to get a zero and use the burrs from a brew pro
How is this machine with respect to Eureka Mignon Perfetto?
This versus mignon SINGLE DOSE from Eureka, is it worthy spending 200eur more for Single Dose version ?
Was thinking about this one, but choosed mignon + original single dose hopper and bellow + incline stand with wood tray and lid from etsy. Received eureka mignon single dose, but with screen.
Awesome, thanks for this really good review of it :D
I'll just get a Filtro / Crono and get the bellow on the side instead since it doesn't seem to be the best bellow system around. I'm surprised, i was expecting it to be really good since they're "official" and made by Eureka but oh well.
Hey, can you advise if the eureka mignon oro single dose has the same ease to clean and the grind adjuster is on bottom burrs so can clean without it adjusting the setting. Thanks
Can you install the Brew Pro 55mm brewed coffee specific burrs into this? Not seeing the zero brew sold anywhere in USA. Any idea how this compares with the Brew Pro? It's $200 cheaper for the zero in USA
I'm guessing this is the only difference between the zero and zero brew
If you close the adjuster fully the thing stops working and only buzzes. It made me freak out. And when you turn the adjuster to fine it makes a very nasty sound when at the end of it's range. Feels like I´m damaging the machine..am I? I think it's a weird customer experience!
So they already discontinued the Mignon single dose just less than one year of its release and replace it with this??
How does the Zero compare to the Facile?
Kinda seemed like a weird choice for Eureka to make the Oro Single Doser first instead of this, especially when it wasn't initially ready. So much less work since this machine was already built (Specialita) just needed some single dose mods :D THEN they could work on making the Oro SD with 64mm burrs into a proper grinder.
Looks like the bellows is similar or the same as the Oro one. I had a 3d printed single dosing hopper and 3rd party bellows that isn't even meant to be a bellows and it worked so much better on my Specialita (also worked on the Oro SD).
Generally the Eureka burr (in espresso oriented grinders at least) produce a wider particle distribution and are not amazing for filter / coarser brew methods. Also many people complain the knob style isn't so intuitive for switching back and forth between brew methods (It's like 1.5 or 2.5 rotations... so easy to lose track of where your settings were).
I'm curious how the filter burr works for espresso, since brew oriented burrs typically have less fines, they can make some good high clarity but really light body espresso shots I believe.
I'm wondering if you've had a chance to open/clean the Zero's chute. I've done as much as cleaning the burrs/chamber. But I'm having trouble removing the front plate because one of the screws sits right under the larger grind dial.
You should be able to unscrew the grind dial and then have easy access to the front plate! I definitely recommend getting in there and cleaning the chute every once in awhile.
@@HomeGroundsCoffee Thanks so much for taking the time to reply! This'll help a lot. I don't want to damage the dial (or the finish) by trying to angle a screwdriver to get at that screw.
Is there a third party made tilt stand available for the Eureka Zero? (prefereably in europe)
Is the footprint of the Zero identical to that of the Specialita?
Not sure on the tilt stand. It is the same grinder as the Specialita, just with the bellows being different.
Hi, the zero point (attached burrs) is varied, for example mine has 0 point at point 8 and Im grinding my coffee at point 9. You?
Yea mine is about 1 whole number off, so the zero point is actually past the 0 and at 9. So for espresso, I'm grinding right around 0.
For just a bit more money the Eureka Mignon XL is the way to go. It's from the Oro family and absolutely spanks the Zero and the Specialita all day long.
Thanks for the info!
hi !Eureka Mignon Zero and df64 . which you will choose
Great question! I have not personally tried the df64. That being said, it has larger burrs and should be more suited for filter coffee. However, the Eureka is built incredibly well from a company with a solid reputation!
Is this a replacement for the Mignon Single Dose? Because I can't find it on sale anymore and also read a lot of negative reviews (at least for the early samples).
Single dose is still available here in canada the updated version is definitely better but not perfect. Just got one to try out myself. Chute still feels like its clogging up and bellows needs a good beating to force enough air through. Update: it is a much better grinder when you just don't use the bellows. Forget it exists or comes with it. It might be helpful when grinding coarser for another brew method besides espresso but purging a few coffee beans in that case is better. Seems like the bellows is just a feature added for marketing.
@@BensCoffeeRants, I bought Zero last Monday and it retains almost nothing - 0.1-0.2 grams on average which is pretty good IMO. And it cost me 400 euros, which is a bit cheaper than SD.
@@isharametThe bellows actually works on that model? Do you feel air pushed through the exit chute when you press it? If you use the bellows.
@@BensCoffeeRants, it works (kinda), although, in order to really push all remaining grinds you need to push it multiple times. For me it usually requires up to 7-8 pushes.
@@isharamet Sounds like too much effort. Retention on my Oro SD was good enough it didn't really need a bellows and then it worked better without it. Dose consistency was better that way which is important for Espresso consistency.
I was going to buy this grinder but the specialita is cheaper and the burrs are the same
Not so. At Chris’ coffee the Speciaita is $699 and the Zero is $499.
@@calisson47 Specialita in Poland costs $ 400 and Zero $ 440
I should have specified that I meant in the U.S. It is interesting that it's inconsistent around the world.
@@calisson47 it is very ofc. USA stuff is also expensive here, u living under a rock or what
@@calisson47 i mean muricans get only the cheap shit no one else wants, but the good stuff haha, u wish u get it cheap but u dont
Is it better than filet mignon tho? 😏
The flimsy bellows is a deal breaker for me.
Specialita in Poland costs $ 400 and Zero $ 440
Interesting! In the US it is $200 cheaper.
@@HomeGroundsCoffee In Italy it seems to be about 10 euros cheaper. Such variable pricing.
@@HomeGroundsCoffee it's because you get this shit bellows we got also wooden lid. Clearly cheap crap for muricans
Widzisz bo Polska to kraj dla ludzi bogatych. Tu wszytko jest drogie ale i tak kupuję E. M. ZERO
@@PolishChristian przeważnie w US jest taniej. Przynajmniej młynku eureki są tańsze w Polsce
Why are you holding that mug for the whole video wtf?? Just curious.
Great review! To sum up...Eureka Mignon Zero is Eureka Specialita without display screen and with single dosing hopper & more annoying bits.
I can't help but thinking this is just another cash grab grinder Eureka creates to get into single dosing grinder market.....rather disappointing...
It's a more affordable Specialita but apparently not affordable enough for you.
I LOL when you said "and now for things I don't like..." because your entire video was basically negative. Maybe that's just your approach.
The Best Single Dosing Grinder ...????????????? NEVER.... quirky adjustment, small burrs
What do you mean saying small burrs. This is for home application. You do not need bigger ones.