I actually also thought similar. You know the default settings for skirmish games have a relic victory? I once tried to gather all relics in a ranked RM and when i didnt get any timer, i was perplexed.
The idea of people peacefully mining a lump of stone while a bunch of French people throw axes at their house 100 feet away is very funny, in an incredibly bizarre way.
The great thing about watching a 750 elo player "play really well" is the fact that you can always ask the question, "ok, so what's their fatal flaw?" Because, if the answer was "nothing," then they wouldn't be 750 elo.
I'm not sure what your point is. You don't have to have a "fatal flaw" to be in (or even hard stuck in) low or mid elo. I've only seen the beginning of the video, but Blue is terribly inefficient in collecting resources and building houses, and he lacks awareness, doesn't scout well, doesn't plan well, doesn't seem to have any efficient-ish build order. He's just middling at the game, in every aspect. He can out-boom and out-micro (and I use the word 'micro' loosely here) any 400 elo player, but he's still not that good at anything in the game. No single "fatal flaw", he's just a bog standard low-mid elo player. Every single aspect of his game can be improved.
@@hylianchriss Yes that's true, but I think OP is referring to red, not blue. Red is the one who had the game in hand and didn't finish it. You could say their fatal flaw was not knowing how to close out a game properly.
@@hylianchriss You are talking about blue, but read the comment, he is talking about players that "seem" to play really well at the start, but you just know theres gonna be sweet payout because they are 750 elo and are bound to do some stupid shit to lose them half of their games.
It's more bizarre that red didn't send scouts out, given his scout rush opening. Also interesting that he built the three castles together after the mistake of the first two, that were sitting useless, not covering much ground.
Hidden Cup? Meh. Give me a Low Elo Legends Cup. It would be the pinnacle of competitive sport. These guys are insane, and that's why they're legends. What compelling drama.
It's more fun to watch because there is actual back and forth. In pro games whoever gets the first successful rush out just wins. There is no back and forth. The attacker just needs to keep momentum and they win by default. Red attacked and then immediately stopped his momentum, that gave blue a chance to come back here. That would not happen in a high elo game.
Chat : "Not everyone is a smurf if they don't die in dark age to a boar" BacT : "Not everyone is a pro if they don't loose 4 vills to a tiger before loom"
I've been lurking on your vids for like two years now, I don't even play AoE. Just had to comment on this man, this one is the best one ever! So satisfying and the cherry on top with mistory comment omg
sometimes on black forest, for instance, you gotta chop those strangler trees because you burn through all your wood making palisade walls and don't consequently have enough to build your first lumber camp.
Love the talk about lower elo methodology. I am at the elo where pure build order into aggro doesn't *always* work, and it's *amazing* how many people were carried to 1k on the back of just memorizing a build order. Like Frank fast castle into knights, but you can *see* the wheels fall off if those first knights don't win the game.
I binge watch this series just to hear T90 complain about straggler trees. There's a twist each time. Today's was "time is money" resaid as "WALKING IS WOOD!!!" I offer for future videos: Walking time should be chopping time Chop your walking time, so you can clock more chopping time If a woodchopper would chop wood, would a woodchopper just build a lumber camp already? Why hop and chop when you can chop and drop? Chop-chop! Stop, drop and plop your wood chop shop by the good woods for good wood. (Just a solid minute of WHYYYY?) Remember to take proper care of your villager health. Straggler trees combine the cardio of chopping with the endurance training of marathon running. Chinese pun: Worrying about straggler tree aethetics is fengshui (風水 = literally wind-water). Actually getting wood is xinshui (薪水, meaning salary, but literally firewood-water).
This was actually painful to watch. I think I might need to go to the hospital after this, coz honestly, neither of them deserved to win. I was hoping a meteor would fall and both would just lose. 11
The benefit of saving straggler trees is when scouts get into your base you can garrison in your TC and even while they patrol around the outside you can have resources to take. They are your backup trees
Red had so many great opportunities to capitalize and just failed to execute at all. It's like he expected castle drops to just force a resign! What a mistory indeed
2:30 *I would like to see that no-house T90 trolls match if or when it happens; that sounds like it'd be a quite interesting challenge.* Thanks again for another great video!
The loss ratio between stragglers and lumber camp due to walking is miniscule[and as such on low elo it is less bothersome],especially since some people love to forget to refresh their lumby campies and let their villagers walk miles with their morning wood gathered from a tree Edit:// Blue went for t90 farms strat and started rebooming and turning game around,OP STRAT GG :D
I recently started playing ranked games after playing AI for quite a bit. After 4 games I have 3 wins, I wouldn't have without T90. In the loss i got stressed out and didn't build the right counters, in 2 of the 3 wins I have the feeling my opponents resign to early
I have been watching LEL right from the very beginning but I have not laughed this much on any of the games till now. This was so much fun! Well played to both Red and Blue!
It's crazy to see the skill difference between a 750 elo player and a 1000 elo player. Where the latter will pre-wall their woodlines and make 2 spearman to anticipate a scout rush, while still managing his build order pretty well, the first one is stil trying to figure out why he can't go to feudal with only 1 dark age building.
If red had just LOOKED at Spies cost, they would have known that red still had lots of villagers and was rebooming. Then maybe they would have felt some urgency in finding red's base to finish them.
Random intel on the players' names: Codfather's might be a reference to the three cod wars between Iceland and the UK (and of course is also a pun with godfather). "Schnitzel von Wagen" has the german structure of a royal name, while just meaning "schnitzel of car" :D
Awlright you've convinced me. See ye Tuesday. I'm finally doing it on my nice computer. AoE II. Let's go, pray I run into someone who has no idea what they're doing.
We'll see if the Zuck can screw up his company's stocks more than he already has. Right now, I'd feel bad if they were locked into a contract and FB gaming takes a massive hit anytime soon. Talk about a bad all-in wager only for it to belly up like a start-up company.
Red has all the hallmarks of a player who rushes every single time and has gotten his opponents to give up. The problem is that he has no idea how to shift to being on the back foot and when the game goes long. Most of this gave me the impression that red was screaming, "why isn't this working!?!" when he durdles around and doesn't have a good idea of where the game plan goes next.
Teuton farm bonus is the best for sure. Every 5 minutes you'll be surprised by all the extra wood. It's like having people you lent money to years ago all start showing up a month apart. It's money/wood you weren't expecting or counting on
"Oh look! Reds got a chance to wrap this up early! Oh.. oh no. Oh look! Blues coming back! Blue can finish this quick! Oh.. Oh no.. Oh look! Red found the new Blue base and he's got a treb and a ton of axemen and Blue has no military! Red could finish this quick! Oh.. Oh no... Red just put all the villagers on a wonder and then forgot and then the whole army got wiped out. Blue has a real chance now! Reds really messed up! Oh... Oh no. .. I really hope this ends."
Mistory is very high level bm, its actually a trap for your opponent. they see a typo, go to fix it and you get a free comeback saying something along the lines of " ye ,its a mystery how you lost." 11
Honestly straggler trees are a godsend in late game where it gets real hectic, if you‘re currently unsure where to send your vils and have to focus on something else. Just put your gather point on stragglers and you can send them to efficient sources once your mind is free. Also great for seeding farms. Don‘t hate them 😁
I love that Romeo and Juliet snuck off and fathered a great dynasty in the north. A romantic ending to a low elo legend.
Was awkward at first as they just stood in the corner looking at each other for a while.
@@Jimmy911ism Really takes me back
Was amazing
Ragnar and Lagerhta
lol
Oh man. Seeing this before watching the video has me excited. I love the tales from LeL matches.
When you think the game is over but there's still half the video left...
My favourite part
I thought it was over in Feudal . . . it was so over at 30 mins
haha 80% of the video left
That’s why I try not to look how long is in/left in the video.
12:30 "A very quick game" - T90
1:08:00 "Not a quick game" - The Game
100% sure that red couldnt find blue and decided to build a Wonder for Wonder victory but didnt know It wasnt possible
I actually also thought similar. You know the default settings for skirmish games have a relic victory? I once tried to gather all relics in a ranked RM and when i didnt get any timer, i was perplexed.
when i get frustrated trying to find someone who doesn't want to resign i just start spamming outposts
1:01:47 for the game-defining chat. Classic "you should have killed me when you had the chance" type stuff!
High elo trash talk right there!
nothing encapsulates "twice the pride, double the fall" more so than red this game
nice wonder. absolute respect for going for it
If you're gonna drop a wonder you have to build it in the enemy's burnt out shell of a base to assert dominance.
This is really the legend of the Codfather. May he swim forever on!
The idea of people peacefully mining a lump of stone while a bunch of French people throw axes at their house 100 feet away is very funny, in an incredibly bizarre way.
So what I’m hearing about straggler trees is to make them efficient you have to put a lumber camp between them and the tc
exactly! When I started doing that, I got to 800 ELO.
Man, i have been doing it wrong all this time
@@PatasEmPauta The question, my friend, is what was you ELO before you started doing it?
@@JamesTheCapybara This technique can get you to 800 all the way from 1200 i guess 11
Spend 100 woods for 100 wood total from a straggler tree, worth it
The great thing about watching a 750 elo player "play really well" is the fact that you can always ask the question, "ok, so what's their fatal flaw?"
Because, if the answer was "nothing," then they wouldn't be 750 elo.
I'm not sure what your point is. You don't have to have a "fatal flaw" to be in (or even hard stuck in) low or mid elo. I've only seen the beginning of the video, but Blue is terribly inefficient in collecting resources and building houses, and he lacks awareness, doesn't scout well, doesn't plan well, doesn't seem to have any efficient-ish build order. He's just middling at the game, in every aspect. He can out-boom and out-micro (and I use the word 'micro' loosely here) any 400 elo player, but he's still not that good at anything in the game.
No single "fatal flaw", he's just a bog standard low-mid elo player. Every single aspect of his game can be improved.
@@hylianchriss Yes that's true, but I think OP is referring to red, not blue. Red is the one who had the game in hand and didn't finish it. You could say their fatal flaw was not knowing how to close out a game properly.
@@hylianchriss You are talking about blue, but read the comment, he is talking about players that "seem" to play really well at the start, but you just know theres gonna be sweet payout because they are 750 elo and are bound to do some stupid shit to lose them half of their games.
It's more bizarre that red didn't send scouts out, given his scout rush opening.
Also interesting that he built the three castles together after the mistake of the first two, that were sitting useless, not covering much ground.
@@hylianchriss damnnn
27:00 "I think it's probably over" - 40 more minutes left in the video :D
I tried to use this to fall asleep, but oh man one of the greatest LELs of all time. I was on the edge of my seat. ;)
I laughed so much in this game... T90's confusion and commentary are superb.
I love the “What a mistory” into enemy GG.
The worst part was T90 missing the comment that the Cod Father was all about ef-fishency. 5:42
Everything else magical.
i was screaming "LOOK AT CHAT DAMMIT" 😂
Its alright lol just a simple pun
Hidden Cup? Meh. Give me a Low Elo Legends Cup.
It would be the pinnacle of competitive sport. These guys are insane, and that's why they're legends. What compelling drama.
It's more fun to watch because there is actual back and forth. In pro games whoever gets the first successful rush out just wins. There is no back and forth. The attacker just needs to keep momentum and they win by default. Red attacked and then immediately stopped his momentum, that gave blue a chance to come back here. That would not happen in a high elo game.
Red's Wonder up in flames is peak symbolism on his Empire's fall.
Chat : "Not everyone is a smurf if they don't die in dark age to a boar"
BacT : "Not everyone is a pro if they don't loose 4 vills to a tiger before loom"
Ouch. Too soon.
loose
@@SFTaYZa mistory.
Lose not loose
Blue has got some swagger, brilliant recovery
5:08
"Codfather is all about ef-fishency" LMAO
"Look how they massacred my buoy"
-Codfather, probably
56:25
haha He sounded like he found a spider in his bathtub
"Codfather vs. Schnitzel von Wagen" -> Instant legends only because of the names already lol
I've been lurking on your vids for like two years now, I don't even play AoE. Just had to comment on this man, this one is the best one ever! So satisfying and the cherry on top with mistory comment omg
"What a mistory" - soul obliterated, enemy resigns
I left my purse in there let me in 😂 50:20
Highlight
"red's dead and there's no redemption" beautiful
sometimes on black forest, for instance, you gotta chop those strangler trees because you burn through all your wood making palisade walls and don't consequently have enough to build your first lumber camp.
35:16 3 Knights being chased by a lion. Also 5 lumber mills
I didn't see the knights at first. Simply iconic.
That's accurate. Three men and three horses can't match the second strongest feline in the world.
Love the talk about lower elo methodology. I am at the elo where pure build order into aggro doesn't *always* work, and it's *amazing* how many people were carried to 1k on the back of just memorizing a build order.
Like Frank fast castle into knights, but you can *see* the wheels fall off if those first knights don't win the game.
Oy don't be calling me out like that
24:46 Meanwhile Romeo doesn't have wood so they can't do anything.
Red drove me insane. The video is not even over.
I binge watch this series just to hear T90 complain about straggler trees. There's a twist each time. Today's was "time is money" resaid as "WALKING IS WOOD!!!"
I offer for future videos:
Walking time should be chopping time
Chop your walking time, so you can clock more chopping time
If a woodchopper would chop wood, would a woodchopper just build a lumber camp already?
Why hop and chop when you can chop and drop?
Chop-chop! Stop, drop and plop your wood chop shop by the good woods for good wood.
(Just a solid minute of WHYYYY?)
Remember to take proper care of your villager health. Straggler trees combine the cardio of chopping with the endurance training of marathon running.
Chinese pun:
Worrying about straggler tree aethetics is fengshui (風水 = literally wind-water). Actually getting wood is xinshui (薪水, meaning salary, but literally firewood-water).
Okay, i dont understand the last part, but you're brilliant my friend, had a wide smile reading this 😄
This is why we love lel. So unpredictable. You never know when it's going to end and who's going to win. 😂
This was actually painful to watch. I think I might need to go to the hospital after this, coz honestly, neither of them deserved to win. I was hoping a meteor would fall and both would just lose. 11
Same. Red legitimately pissed me off
The Codfather knows, keep your friends close, and your enemies closer…
Keep your fishes close and baits closer
The benefit of saving straggler trees is when scouts get into your base you can garrison in your TC and even while they patrol around the outside you can have resources to take. They are your backup trees
I started rooting for blue when red showed early aggression.
Wasn't disappointed.
Hands down one of the best most intense game i've ever seen. Great content!!
Red had so many great opportunities to capitalize and just failed to execute at all. It's like he expected castle drops to just force a resign! What a mistory indeed
That line from blue was a flex, lol.
My favorite detail is Blue getting wrecked so hard in Feudal and yet clicks up to Castle first
2:30 *I would like to see that no-house T90 trolls match if or when it happens; that sounds like it'd be a quite interesting challenge.*
Thanks again for another great video!
Mu local fish and chip shop is called The Codfather
The loss ratio between stragglers and lumber camp due to walking is miniscule[and as such on low elo it is less bothersome],especially since some people love to forget to refresh their lumby campies and let their villagers walk miles with their morning wood gathered from a tree
Edit:// Blue went for t90 farms strat and started rebooming and turning game around,OP STRAT GG :D
"the codfather" is the most icelandic username ever
Here in the UK my local fish and chip shop is called "The Codfather" lol
I recently started playing ranked games after playing AI for quite a bit.
After 4 games I have 3 wins, I wouldn't have without T90.
In the loss i got stressed out and didn't build the right counters, in 2 of the 3 wins I have the feeling my opponents resign to early
Red couldn't see the sneak Romeo & Juliet corner TC because of fog of war
What a mist story
'pikeman rush' I absolutely lost it.
I have been watching LEL right from the very beginning but I have not laughed this much on any of the games till now. This was so much fun! Well played to both Red and Blue!
Loved this game from the first to the last minute, props to both of them
You really got me with the "Loom loom loom loom, I want you in my room I guess, I don't know"
Haha! I think he realized how creepy it sounded and then he backpedaled!
Blue: What a mistory
Red: Understandable, have a nice day
It's crazy to see the skill difference between a 750 elo player and a 1000 elo player. Where the latter will pre-wall their woodlines and make 2 spearman to anticipate a scout rush, while still managing his build order pretty well, the first one is stil trying to figure out why he can't go to feudal with only 1 dark age building.
"Wonder into GG" lmao
If red had just LOOKED at Spies cost, they would have known that red still had lots of villagers and was rebooming. Then maybe they would have felt some urgency in finding red's base to finish them.
Why should red kill himself
was the game red vs red lol
This was soo painful, I honestly don't know why I watched the whole thing. Props to T90 for casting this and not getting crazy af
The Codfather deserved 100% the victory
the low elo legends commentary where you go off the rails so much is my absolute favorite
My favorite time of the day
i cant play poles, as a pole myself the villager voicelines distract me too much hahaha
Why ?
Minute 12:42 of 1:08:25 "Could be a very short game here..." xD
Red seemed like someone who watched so many tutorials on build orders all the way to castle but had no idea what to do after that.
I'm so glad the Codfather turned this match around!
Imagine how better red would be if he realized how important Loom was.
1:02:40 the chat "the mistory of the north pole" should've been the title, imo
"Any creative way to throw it away." Hell, Tristan, you don't really make it neccessary for me to watch. But, I do listen!
That Romeo and Juliet piece totally cracked me :D :D :D
That was a rollercoaster
Codfather should have just said "Nice Wonder"
Random intel on the players' names:
Codfather's might be a reference to the three cod wars between Iceland and the UK (and of course is also a pun with godfather).
"Schnitzel von Wagen" has the german structure of a royal name, while just meaning "schnitzel of car" :D
Best game since the legendary snipe of MBL in the famous “this is not supposed to happen!!!” game.
Awlright you've convinced me. See ye Tuesday. I'm finally doing it on my nice computer. AoE II. Let's go, pray I run into someone who has no idea what they're doing.
I am so utterly angry and I’ve genuinely almost had a stress attack watching this game.
56:27 ROFL the horror in his voice!
"HEUH! 😨"
the wackiness is amazing
blue deserves to win because of his awesome name and picture 😂
LEL watching LEL - Let's see what Mr. Schnitzel can do.
The real mistory is when T90 will come back to Twitch
We'll see if the Zuck can screw up his company's stocks more than he already has. Right now, I'd feel bad if they were locked into a contract and FB gaming takes a massive hit anytime soon. Talk about a bad all-in wager only for it to belly up like a start-up company.
"dont expect walling"
skipping an hour ahead:
ye walls
the best is chat thinking red is a smurf!! HAHAHAHA The best game ever
Red has all the hallmarks of a player who rushes every single time and has gotten his opponents to give up. The problem is that he has no idea how to shift to being on the back foot and when the game goes long. Most of this gave me the impression that red was screaming, "why isn't this working!?!" when he durdles around and doesn't have a good idea of where the game plan goes next.
5:20 SoTL taking the wonder out of it with stats.
One of the greatest LEL I have ever seen. Credit to blue for keeping at it.
Notre Dame on fire. Historically accurate.
Best LEL in months!!! I love the series.
Teuton farm bonus is the best for sure. Every 5 minutes you'll be surprised by all the extra wood. It's like having people you lent money to years ago all start showing up a month apart. It's money/wood you weren't expecting or counting on
No-house Poles seems like the type of thing Viper would try.
"Oh look! Reds got a chance to wrap this up early! Oh.. oh no.
Oh look! Blues coming back! Blue can finish this quick! Oh.. Oh no..
Oh look! Red found the new Blue base and he's got a treb and a ton of axemen and Blue has no military! Red could finish this quick! Oh.. Oh no...
Red just put all the villagers on a wonder and then forgot and then the whole army got wiped out. Blue has a real chance now! Reds really messed up! Oh... Oh no. ..
I really hope this ends."
Mistory is very high level bm, its actually a trap for your opponent. they see a typo, go to fix it and you get a free comeback saying something along the lines of " ye ,its a mystery how you lost." 11
Such an excellent commentary man and what a great game! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Thanks for creating this great series
Honestly straggler trees are a godsend in late game where it gets real hectic, if you‘re currently unsure where to send your vils and have to focus on something else. Just put your gather point on stragglers and you can send them to efficient sources once your mind is free. Also great for seeding farms. Don‘t hate them 😁
DEFINITELY should've called this one "Game of Throws"
This mistory was an amazing learn!
The Wonder, the Wonder, the... Noooo!
One way or another (whenever blue or red) we know-how from the start that Poles would win, thats makes this evening much more pleasant.
This game made me want to cry the most, from how Red was playing after his early aggression.
"Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer!"
I love it to see them move their whole base and still win this way =DDD