Should Marvel reboot?! Who's the new Superwoman? Joshua Williamson tells all!
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Josh talking about how fast Reign of the Supermen came and went made me bust out laughing. I work at an LCS and I was sorting through a massive collection my boss bought. Every time a Superman title came up from that period, it was “Clark is dead, here’s the new guy, something happens, CLARK IS BACK!” within seconds. Absolutely hilarious but damn, what a moment for comics!
Having Dan Jurgens and Josh on the same show would be awesome! Two of my favorite writers for Superman for sure.
The editing on this All Stars is beautiful! The cutting between close-ups and the regular two-shot is naturalistic to the flow of conversation. And Joshua's audio is crisp without any dropouts or lagging.
Great show! ❤
both spidey and supes get pretty iconic, bad ass black suits in the 90s. and I don't think those three things coinciding is a huge surprise considering the direction of culture both in general and specifically in comics at the time
spidey black suit was mainly in the 80s
The black suit stuff for Spider-Man was 1984
Superman is the most iconic superhero of all time
Spiderman is not the most iconic
@OVERVOID12 why are you arguing against a thing that wasn't said?
Mic drop moment for me was Superman #80 when Cyborg just blasts Eradicator and then the entire narration over the destruction of Coast City. I was sitting in a Baskin Robbins with my parents eating an ice cream. I was utterly shocked and absorbed sitting there. 31 years later I still viscerally remember that moment.
I gotta say, I ADORE this Superwoman costume!
Reading Spiderman comics and the Clone Saga til JMD run was very rough to read. Also yes Josh @19:54 one of the main reasons people care about Peter supporting cast was due to his multiple books . Spectacular Spiderman for example
I am kinda in favor of a reboot for Marvel(and DC) because you can't really take continuity or the shared universe idea seriously. I think a reader can easily overlook it most of the time so I agree with Josh that it isn't necessary for Marvel(or DC) at this point. The Ultimate and Absolute Universes look like I could get what I want out of a shared universe. I just hope that they run for a while so we get to see some meaningful progression/change and they take continuity seriously.
You realise that DC has done a reboot about a decade ago (with multiple follow up reboots) that turned out so disastrous continuity wise that people still need to do clean up today?
@@spectacleHD I may be wrong but I am pretty sure that we know now that there wasn't that much planning that went into the new 52 and how it wasn't run very well. It also didn't commit to the reboot when it launched(ie Batman and GL). I agree that later relaunches/events trying to add back in continuity didn't help. I guess it would have had to be a more permanent clean break to keep the continuity straight?
Yes, not much planning went into it, but there were a lot of different circumstances that made it flop to. Your problems with modern comics derives because of modern writers and editors. The same ones that would be in charge of a reboot. You would throw away the foundation put in place by Lee, Kirby and Ditko, for a new foundation that might completely alter the essence of your favourite characters for years to come and that would probably take years of cleanup to get something less chaotic again, years wasted by not just.focussing on telling good stories.
@@spectacleHD the main problem with the New 52 is that DC actually could have done with it what All-In is doing now (as well as the stories they publish for other Elseworlds shenanigans) and things wouldn't have gotten as out of hand, since Infinite Crisis had just brought back a contained 52 worlds Multiverse, but Dan Didio was obsessed with Marvelizing DC which made no sense. Also when people who actually did care about the characters tried to collaborate...no one really cared to communicate...not even when George Perez was trying to figure out how to write canon in his Superman book while Morrison was writing their action comics. It got on Perez' nerves.
Now we have Absolute as one ongoing multiverse thing, and the regular multiverse continues elsewhere.
This should have been done with Flashpoint.
Earth-1985 (the Post-Crisis reality spanning from 1987's re-launches to 2011's wrap-ups) could have continued while Earth-0 took on the world of the Nu52, and then they could have more freely commited to full reboots...although I do like the idea of the humor concerning Batman and GL having better things to do than to get rebooted...and they should have added Wonder Woman into that mix of "having better things to do" as well...like maybe having Diana just deciding she's better off retiring for real and letting Donna deal with these shenanigans...I mean considering she's been around since the JSA days...I think Diana might eventually decide "I'm getting too *young* for this." and take on the role of JSA member once again.
Personally I disagree, I have always hated the fact that DC reboots every decade or so and doesn’t have the same continuity that Marvel has. I feel if they did more then the very rare soft reboots it has done it would be like saying the work that was put into these characters and the time fans have put into those books no longer matters. It’s why I like the idea of both the previous and current Ultimate universe as if you want what is effectively a reboot you can read those books or even things like Mutant X or MC2 where you get a different take without having to lose the main continuity. But not to say your take is wrong I just have a different one
Great job guys on interview with Joshua Williamson it’s amazing 😻
It’s so fun knowing of you via super chats and comments on comics YT for years now
@@damiandawson7610 thank you 😊
I enjoy this podcast and lime Joshua taking time give insight into his work, but would you ever consider adding timestamps to these videos? You guys tend to go off into tangent and while it is entertaining, sometimes I’m more so curious to hear Joshua’s thoughts on the books he’s working on and it’s hard to skip around and not miss anything. Hope this makes sense, either way thanks to both of you for making time to do this show! ❤
I was about to have a panic attack and listening to you guys calmed me down to the point that I ended up laughing along. Thank you very much.
Such a great interview , Sal and Joshua always have such great chats
Awesome episode, super hyped for all in and Superman specifically, so cool to see the writer recap a recent issue of a series like this
Rob from comics explained could probably reset marvel comics too lol
When it suddenly dawns on you that DC has a lot of books called: “Absolute…” and now they are doing an entire line called Absolute. Seems like someone in Editorial loves the word
I'm very happy hearing Josh agree Marvel doesn't need a reboot. Everytime I hear someone say Marvel should reboot its either by someone who doesn't read comics and still wouldn't if there was a reboot or it's by someone who does actively read and would probably end up hating it if it actually happened.
I feel like Marvel has already had a crisis style reboot in the style of alternate universe like the ultimate and new ultimate universe. So technically they have been rebooting. It’s just they’ve been also keep making consistent of their main line. But the problem is that with the original ultimate universe is that things what kind of going down the same path as the original, which was things were much more convoluted and much more event ham fisted, kind of cherishes it when it’s simple at the beginning.
I tried to listen to the rest of this, but when josh mentioned damien i just got interested for a black label book for damien
Thanks to both of you for this series! Love these!
Once again another great episode of All-Stars. So excited for All-In and the new arc of Superman in October!
The big leagues writers are so crazy to listen to as a lowly fan 😂
Josh. Damien was talking to you
I agree. DCs reboots is just one big glorified event before things go “back to normal”
Booster gold mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Josh is a legend.
The thing with marvel rebooting is they would just be using the same talent that got them to this point. The current community can be fixed with some slight reseting but not a full reboot if marvel limits the amount of books they put out and focus of making good titles
Exactly, plus itd be erasing stan lee jack kirbg and Steve ditko comics which would be terrible
Marvel definitely feels like their game is quantity first. The books that are good are great, but the drop off is kinda severe.
@@joeysham they need to undo One More Day though, that was awful.
Supergirl hair is blonde
@@Dim4323 it’s not Supergirl, it’s Superwoman. Different characters.
@@distortohio and it's Lois again.
Also...there was a brunette Supergirl in the 90's, she just used a wig to appear blonde, the angelic Linda Danvers...as an inverse of Kara when she's Linda Lee Danvers/Linda Lang where she uses a brunette wig with the glasses...the same tactic that in her early years as Wonder Girl that Cassie Sandsmark would use a raven wig alongside goggles for to look like a mini-Donna Troy.