When someone dies, you don’t spend nearly 30 years trying to finish his movie because you don’t care or you think you can make a few bucks off it. This was done out of love
Spielberg's film A.I. had a similar origin story. It started off with Kubrick, who spent 20 years trying to make it. He kept bouncing ideas off Spielberg via fax to move things forward. He even proposed Spielberg actually direct while he'd produce, which, to his credit, Spielberg said no to (he considered it Kubrick's project). Then Kubrick died and his widow pointed out to Spielberg that he was the only way his friend Stanley's movie was ever going to get made. At best, the resulting film is a minor, thoughtful classic, equal parts idealistic and cynical. Certainly was never a big hit...but it got made. And that was just because of people who loved Kubrick.
i have this motto i repeat to myself when i feel like i'll achieve any of my dreams because i didn't immediately know what i wanted to do with my life after high school. that motto is "it's only too late when i'm dead". David Allen proved it's still not too late even then
I came in to watch a video about a yeti and lizard people flick and I'm getting a heartfelt history about a man's project that got finished thanks to his friends after he passed away. I got some dust in my eyes.
As another aspiring creator (Table Top Games, Video Games), this video hit me hard. I've been going through a pretty hard time recently, and I have been struggling to keep going with my projects and have been pretty burnt out. Thank you for this video, sincerely. The video reminded me of why I do what I do, and that feeling is uplifting. Plus you brought to my attention a really cool looking film.
"Don't waste your time on jealousy Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind The race is long and in the end, it's only with yourself" Everybody is Free (To Wear Sunscreen)
Hey Bob, I know you yourself have been on the receiving end of oddly specific bitter RUclips/Twitter hate mobs led by grifters, yet I want to say thank you for your content and geeking out over such movie oddities such as this, in this case the film that "won".
Same...the well said grifters tap is running dry anyway. Most will collapse by decade's end. Our Mr Chipman was built to last because he both grew up and didn't grow up at all (and I mean both of those in the best way possible).
Jesus, this hit home in about a million different ways I especially needed right now. Not too ashamed to say that a video about yetis, lizard people, and memories of goofing around with buddies and a camcorder made me cry my damn eyes out. Thank you, Bob!
It was emotionally overwhelming for me....until he decided to be pointlessly vindictive towards Grace Randolph, and then I rolled my eyes. Oh well, it was a moving video up to that point.
@@communistpropagandist4608 yes, far more. The book as more than two story rings--a lot more. One of the story rings is Goldman trying to get the book made into a movie. Also if you thought Prince Humperdink was a terrible person in the film...
If nothing else, I want to thank you for revealing the title of a movie I’ve wanted to know for nearly 30 years. To explain, as a child, my school district had a catalog of after school programs on a variety of subjects, in this case sound editing or as I later learned was known as foley work. Each student was given a short clip to add sound effects to, and we got to keep our results on a floppy disk. My clip, I now know, came from this film, where a lizard man seated in a turret adjusts position and fires lightning at an apeman. I lost the disk long ago but I never forgot the experience but could never find the source of the clip. Thank you again for revealing the answer to one of the tiny little mysteries of my childhood.
This really touched me. I've been in a rut for years, but I think I'm going to go watch "The Primevals" and finally get properly writing again. Thank you.
That's how our writing game goes, friend, amirite? The need for inspiration is constant to keep the creative wheels greased. May heeding this call be just what gets you out of that rut.
Never forget... Edgar Rice Burroughs was 36 when he put pen to paper on "A Princess Of Mars." Stan Lee wasn't even Stan Lee 'til he was darn near 40. I'm in the same boat... a scrappy DIY backyard creator, dreaming of the day my passion becomes a paycheck. If you keep the dream alive, Bob old chum, so will I. It would be an honor to work with you one day. And WOW... what an inspiration. Putting a little hope back into the phrase "any idiot can do this," when too often we see why just because any idiot CAN, doesn't mean any idiot SHOULD.
A more modern example is how David "Pony Smasher" Sandberg spent his spare time making horror short films until he got noticed and picked up to make a full feature of one of his most popular shorts at age 35. He did SHAZAM and Annabelle 2, two movies that MovieBob ended up loving.
I'm a writer...I'm now secure enough to say I've always been a writer, even when I was handwriting a Dirty Dozen knockoff by hand. I turned my passion into a marginal business by way of ghostwriting. Still want to make it bigger, still laying plans to make it happen. These are the stories that remind you it CAN be done. But you HAVE to commit and stay committed. See Roger Corman (RIP) for an idea of what that commitment can look like.
Well I, another "scrappy DIY backyard creator" who's disabled and still lives with his mom, just turned 36 and all I have to show for it is a long since aborted SFM web series, and an overwhelming abundance of ideas with no clue how to pluck them from my imagination and into reality. And even if I could, if anyone would see it or care. And here Bob is whinging about how he *deserves* to be the next Peter Jackson or James Gunn, while being nothing more or less than a decently popular *RUclipsr* who could easily have a steady paycheck and be doing pretty well for himself if he'd just keep to the same schedule of uploads he had at The Escapist, instead of wasting time wallowing in pretension and feeling sorry for himself. All without the self awareness that Jackson, Gunn and David Allen have more raw talent in their little fingers than Bob (or I, or any failed creative with a chip on their shoulder, frankly) has in his whole body.
@@IESUproductions My guy... if you hate MovieBob, what are you even doing here? We don't build ourselves up by tearing the other guy down. And until such time as you stop... Turn From Me, For I Never Knew You.
Hey Bob, I’ve watched you since the escapist days, and your content has always been the best when done through radical positivity. This feels like an incredible return to form and no one else does it quite like you. Hope to see more awesome optimistic long form stuff like this.
There are some RUclips channels, like yours, whose videos I watch as soon as they come out, and others, like Folding Ideas, that I stick on a playlist and get to in the shower weeks or months down the line. But I had to pause this video and go watch Dan Olson's once you got started talking about it, so thank you Bob. Both videos feel considerably more monumental for you getting me to do so. :D
Holy hell, Bob. What an amazing fucking video. I'm glad you're still around, all through your trials and tribulations, making your videos and sharing your passions and making me Think. But in this case, also making me Feel.
I lost track of this, and am bummed I missed the theatrical release--definitely going to try for that BluRay. Thanks Bob--movies like this deserve this kind of attention and respect paid to them.
I just got to part 2, and I want to say: I love your stuff Bob. Even this. Maybe it’s because I’m technically an elder millennial, but I’m right there with you. You’re doing a great job.
I’m at the age and point in my life where, even if I didn’t know the heart wrenching story of its creation, I would still want to see this movie. I’d want to see it, if it came out 40 years ago and there was nothing special about seeing it now. This sounds right up my alley and everything else just compels me to make it a priority to watch/own. Thanks, Bob!
Bob thank yoh for sharing your passion and being honest, open and venerable in expressing your love of film. You have had a profound effect on my life since I was 18 years old to a now 32 and im thankful for you exposing me to this art and having a deeper understanding of the world through that lense.
11:25 Speaking as a writer whose ghostwriting is the only thing that got him published so far, I say this about failure and limitation. Accept that they exist but never accept them as a permanent condition.
This was definitely worth doing a "Special" Big Picture episode about, especially as it ties into the "Backyard Filmmaking" pioneered by James Rolfe and the like, holy cow...
The best art is almost always when someone has a neat idea and just goes with it. Especially with movies, when all the hands that touch ut get to throw stuff they like into the mix. Not stuff someone thinks will sell, but something they themselves would enjoy. Even if the finished movie isn't my favorite I usually enjoy yhe ride because everyone who made had a blast doing so. Its like watching kids building something buckwild out of a big tote of Legos that have been handed down and added to for generations, no instructions just just wanted to make something cool.
This is kind of anecdotal but given what you brought up about David Allen I wanted to share it with you: I just saw this movie called TUESDAY (the A24 movie with Julia Louie Dreyfus where Death is a macaw) that signs off with a message about how the "real" afterlife is the legacy a person leaves behind and how we honor/remember them when they're gone. It's kinda serendipitous to hear that message and now hear the story of David Allen "beating death", knowing that he and his work were so beloved that his friends/colleagues honored it by finishing this movie and releasing it. It's genuinely inspiring to see it. That's the kind of legacy one could really aspire to.
Forget age. Forget other people's paths. Remember Satoshi Kon (Paprika, Perfect Blue)? He died young of Pancreatic cancer. He said "I am grateful for my own unique path." And the key here is UNIQUE. Ever one has a unique path and comparison is the thief of joy.
I'm 34 and thinking about trying my hand at becoming an artist, my grandfather has a bunch of old art supplies lying around the house and we still have several of his paintings so I might be able to make it work. Weirdly enough it was seeing the documentary "My Kid Could Paint That" which inspired me to try it, whether that kid actually did those paintings or not the fact that people were willing to pay crazy amounts of money for them got me thinking I should try my hand at it. My art teacher in high school always praised my work, I thought she was just being nice at the time but maybe she was telling the truth.
I started writing a novel 10 years ago, and am in the process of shopping it for a publisher. The grind sucks, I have no real contacts no matter how much I try, and it always seems as if the only person who thinks this book can be a success is just me. But this video, and the comments section here reminded me why I still believe, why I _should_ still believe. Thanks Bob. You’ve always been one of the good ones.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Sir Terry was one my favorite writers, along with his good friend Neil Gaiman, and both of them heavily inspired my book, so thanks for the reminder there, buddy!
This video feels, more than anything, inevitable. Given your preferences in video games and movies, and your preferred style of video and general mindset, your work overlaps with both James Rolfe and Dan Olson to various degrees, not in an unoriginal way, just in the organic way that people with similar tastes sometimes resemble one another. That a work *by* Dan Olson commenting *on* James Rolfe would inspire some powerful feelings seems only natural, considering. I imagine a *lot* of people are feeling some stuff from it, myself included. I don't imagine many of us here are exactly where we want to be in life, or where we imagined ourselves being at our current ages. But it gives me hope to see you out there, still trying your damnedest. And for what it's worth, I'd say you're one of the best film critics working today. Love the thumbnail, by the way, very clever. It showed up in my recommendations literally right next to Dan's video, too, as though RUclips's algorithm can tell.
Dammit Bob you made me cry and I didn't see it coming. But you also reminded me why I dearly love this kind of film and why, back in the day I went to grad school to do a bit of film studies. Thank you. And thank you for making me appreciate I'm in same generation as you!
Just want to add in with everyone saying they appreciate this heartfelt examination. Thank you for your vulnerability, Bob, it means a lot to many people.
If you truly feel a kinship with these B movie/so called backyard filmmakers or even these big name directors that went on to bigger things, I'm not gonna stop you. In fact, you've been talking about making projects like that for years and it's what I wish for you and I hope it really happens someday. I'm gonna make an effort to track down The Primevals and see it for myself. Your passion for this kind of work is clear, and I feel it's part of why you loved Hundreds of Beavers so much (which I'll finally have a chance to see very soon).
I sat with the comment box for a while trying to find a way to articulate how well this vid comes together despite a real rough start and eventually this is all I could write. The movies that really animate you are always going to come out to the best vids you make. ❤
This is rad, my father did special effects my whole life, so I'm getting him this bluray. This would be like getting a cleaned up full finished version of The Thief and the Cobbler.
As a small side note, I love that the red ninja in the clip from your old videos uses two katana linked together at the hilt, just like Ryo from Ronin Warriors/Samurai Troopers. It's a little thing that makes me smile, so thank you for that :)
They should release a VHS version in an old clamshell box. Or maybe have a version in the boxed set that looks like an old VHS copy. Like it was a video that fell behind the rack in Stop and Go Video and people forgot about it, but now it's been found and released on eBay. Something like that. By the way, I guess Rocky was wrong when he said that time beats everyone; it's undefeated.
Gen Xer here...started my pro writing as a ghostwriter in my mid-30s at the height of the Great Recession. Trust me when I say it can be done so long as you can accept the rigors of the path. I wish you a good journey down this road we have chosen. May it fulfill you as much or more as it has me.
"This movie beath time. This movie bit death." Well, I have a movie to go watch. This video, your art, made me want to see this love letter to a lost friend put to film that I wouldn't have, otherwise. This is a gorgeous video; please know your work is impactful, loved, and appreciated, Bob.
I watched Dan's video this morning, and I'm watching this around 7pm. Really glad you made this video and I'll definitely check out the film, once I find something that will play a disc. Good work man. Also I'm 35 and I've never thought of RUclipsr as an epithet. There are some artists within every medium who are grifters, and you're not one of those. ❤
Videos like this are why I love your work. Before watching, I knew nothing about this film or the work of David Allen, or why such knowledge might be beautiful or interesting. Now I do. Keep on being the thoughtful, insightful, and funny creative that you are. Don't let the state of youtube or the world drag you down.
Wow this was a whole education on a movie I watched a few nights ago (loved it). I assumed out of hand that it was a great homage to that period of SFX filmmaking, not in fact a surviving opus from an artist whose work I've seen so often my whole life. Thanks for this, and I can't wait to watch The Primevals many more times.
Thank you for this. I mean not just about this movie and it's history, but your optimism. What you said about the folding ideas thing...I needed that. It got me down for a bit. But this was a spirit heart booster that spoke to me somehow...I don't know why. But thank u.❤
Remember this one, friend, and keep it close to heart. Optimism is the only sane attitude to have. There's plenty that will try and cripple and kill every one of your hopes by telling you the other way is the truth. Those people are full of it. Nothing is forever and that includes obstacles, bad times and the ones who would thwart your deepest hopes. Plenty of grounds for optimism right there.
Excellent essay and incredibly touching and meaningful feeling. Thank you so much for sharing this - as a fellow Xer the larger meaning had a lot of connections to me.
I graduated from university with a film degree in 2022, same day Liz Truss became Prime Minister and two days before the Queen died. I have been looking for a job for the past year and a half. I'm on universal credit, I've been given advice from support groups and I've applied for so, so many jobs it just starts to blurr. Then recently, either out of boredom or just I cracked I made a short skit, about a brick wall and a fence have conversation. Weird idea? Yes. But then I made another short film, which is mostly just me playing around with my emails and my laptops screen recorder and turned that into a horror short film. If people making videos out of their multiplayer Halo matches, comic book review shows or web series about video games then I can make sure make something out of nothing.
This video got to me. In high-school and in my early 20s, I made videos with my friends. Most of it was jackass stuff because jackass was during this time. I always found time to write a few skits and have my friends act them out video. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was stupid, but we always had fun making them. This video took me back to the days I wanted to be an actor/film maker. This video makes me want to buy a camera and start filming again. This was great video for those who still have dreams.
As I was watching this I was drawing a multi-part comic in my sketchbook, a passion project I do in my spare time about an idea I’ve nurtured since college with a character I made up when I was 6. I’m directly posting it online from my sketchbook because I don’t know how to do digital art and this analog pencil and ink way is what I’ve drawn comics in my whole like and I’m most comfortable with it. This episode struck a deep nerve for me, is what I’m saying.
I'm glad they finally finished the film. Just saw the trailer, and I like it. I think I heard of this, but I can't prove it. As for the side topic, RUclips drama is youtube drama.
No matter if The Primevals is just an anachronism or an actual decent film, it sounds like, at the very least, it's one talented artist's Sci-Fi cinema opus. That makes it worth a watch in my book. I can ramble too, Bob! No, I'm just kidding. Thank you for being so genuine and vulnerable while talking about this. I empathize with this video's topics, and I'm excited to watch a landmark in film history.
Been a loyal fan of yours for...let's say a decade. This is by far some of your finest work. Possibly the best video of yours I've seen. Thanks for not being ashamed to be genuinely moved by a dumb little movie about yetis and lizard men. I know I am.
you started out comparing it to the folding ideas/AVGN stuff...but i've been watching caitlin doughty a lot lately and this moreso reminded me of her and how she covers death. "this movie beat death" sums it up perfectly. it's the culmination of who allan was as an artist, an ongoing monument to his life and his work towards a medium he loved. his friends loved him enough to ensure his vision wouldn't be lost to time. it's simultaneously a work of art and a memorial to it's creator.
I'm not a person who believes in fate, but learning of this for the first time on today, when the news is as bad as it can get, when I NEEDED a news item like this, feels like fate. Damn did I need this.
I've been a Full Moon fan for decades yet somehow I never heard of this film until now, chalk that up to me not really reading sci-fi or horror magazines I guess, anyways definitely going to check this out.
Love you, Bob. I really hope that you keep in mind how much more meaningful what you're doing is than the movie making you could be doing. You are an essayist and a polemicist, so I don't guess at the meaning you want to communicate-I am persuaded by it and changed by it. It becomes part of me in a way that no amount of great films could. I'm not incorporating your dream into my tastes-I'm adding your ideas to my psyche. Being persuaded is closer to a religious experience than an artistic or esthetic one, so you are a the bigger deal.
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When someone dies, you don’t spend nearly 30 years trying to finish his movie because you don’t care or you think you can make a few bucks off it.
This was done out of love
Spielberg's film A.I. had a similar origin story. It started off with Kubrick, who spent 20 years trying to make it. He kept bouncing ideas off Spielberg via fax to move things forward. He even proposed Spielberg actually direct while he'd produce, which, to his credit, Spielberg said no to (he considered it Kubrick's project).
Then Kubrick died and his widow pointed out to Spielberg that he was the only way his friend Stanley's movie was ever going to get made.
At best, the resulting film is a minor, thoughtful classic, equal parts idealistic and cynical. Certainly was never a big hit...but it got made. And that was just because of people who loved Kubrick.
@@johnathonhaney8291 and Kubrick wasn’t exactly a saint either
“This movie beat time, this movie beat death.”
Damn.
That’s such a beautiful line Bob, it’s just fucking beautiful. Thank you for sharing and spot lighting this amazing film
That is indeed a hell of a thing.
"It's just so cool that this exists."
Your unadulterated love for cinema is truly palpable in videos like this. Thank you, Bob, you're the best.
Crawl out of his ass, dude.
Bob‘s actually choking up, and I can’t blame him. This is one of the sweetest gestures I’ve ever seen from one filmmaker to another.
i have this motto i repeat to myself when i feel like i'll achieve any of my dreams because i didn't immediately know what i wanted to do with my life after high school. that motto is "it's only too late when i'm dead". David Allen proved it's still not too late even then
"The Movie That Beat Death" is a hell of a title for a documentary about this film.
I came in to watch a video about a yeti and lizard people flick and I'm getting a heartfelt history about a man's project that got finished thanks to his friends after he passed away. I got some dust in my eyes.
It's too bad he made it less moving and more uncomfortable towards the end with an out-of-nowhere attack on Grace Randolph for no apparent reason.
@@adamdavis1648 who?
This, Bob. This is the kind of thing I watch this sort of channel for.
As another aspiring creator (Table Top Games, Video Games), this video hit me hard. I've been going through a pretty hard time recently, and I have been struggling to keep going with my projects and have been pretty burnt out. Thank you for this video, sincerely. The video reminded me of why I do what I do, and that feeling is uplifting. Plus you brought to my attention a really cool looking film.
"Don't waste your time on jealousy
Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind
The race is long and in the end, it's only with yourself"
Everybody is Free (To Wear Sunscreen)
Hey Bob, I know you yourself have been on the receiving end of oddly specific bitter RUclips/Twitter hate mobs led by grifters, yet I want to say thank you for your content and geeking out over such movie oddities such as this, in this case the film that "won".
Same...the well said grifters tap is running dry anyway. Most will collapse by decade's end. Our Mr Chipman was built to last because he both grew up and didn't grow up at all (and I mean both of those in the best way possible).
Jesus, this hit home in about a million different ways I especially needed right now. Not too ashamed to say that a video about yetis, lizard people, and memories of goofing around with buddies and a camcorder made me cry my damn eyes out. Thank you, Bob!
It was emotionally overwhelming for me....until he decided to be pointlessly vindictive towards Grace Randolph, and then I rolled my eyes. Oh well, it was a moving video up to that point.
I could listen to you talk about how the film industry works and the careers of people in it forever. You make it so interesting
Read the Princess Bride.
@@mra4521 I've seen the movie. Does the book have more to do with film industry?
@@communistpropagandist4608 yes, far more. The book as more than two story rings--a lot more. One of the story rings is Goldman trying to get the book made into a movie. Also if you thought Prince Humperdink was a terrible person in the film...
If nothing else, I want to thank you for revealing the title of a movie I’ve wanted to know for nearly 30 years. To explain, as a child, my school district had a catalog of after school programs on a variety of subjects, in this case sound editing or as I later learned was known as foley work. Each student was given a short clip to add sound effects to, and we got to keep our results on a floppy disk. My clip, I now know, came from this film, where a lizard man seated in a turret adjusts position and fires lightning at an apeman. I lost the disk long ago but I never forgot the experience but could never find the source of the clip. Thank you again for revealing the answer to one of the tiny little mysteries of my childhood.
"Anyone can cook" - Ratatouille, Pixar
It's far from my favorite Pixar movie but man, the argument could be made that that is the best Pixar moment ever.
As a late gen-xer this gave me some motivation and hope. Thank you Bob.
This really touched me. I've been in a rut for years, but I think I'm going to go watch "The Primevals" and finally get properly writing again. Thank you.
That's how our writing game goes, friend, amirite? The need for inspiration is constant to keep the creative wheels greased. May heeding this call be just what gets you out of that rut.
Never forget... Edgar Rice Burroughs was 36 when he put pen to paper on "A Princess Of Mars." Stan Lee wasn't even Stan Lee 'til he was darn near 40.
I'm in the same boat... a scrappy DIY backyard creator, dreaming of the day my passion becomes a paycheck. If you keep the dream alive, Bob old chum, so will I. It would be an honor to work with you one day.
And WOW... what an inspiration. Putting a little hope back into the phrase "any idiot can do this," when too often we see why just because any idiot CAN, doesn't mean any idiot SHOULD.
A more modern example is how David "Pony Smasher" Sandberg spent his spare time making horror short films until he got noticed and picked up to make a full feature of one of his most popular shorts at age 35. He did SHAZAM and Annabelle 2, two movies that MovieBob ended up loving.
I'm a writer...I'm now secure enough to say I've always been a writer, even when I was handwriting a Dirty Dozen knockoff by hand. I turned my passion into a marginal business by way of ghostwriting. Still want to make it bigger, still laying plans to make it happen.
These are the stories that remind you it CAN be done. But you HAVE to commit and stay committed. See Roger Corman (RIP) for an idea of what that commitment can look like.
@@johnathonhaney8291 True... Corman took schlock and spun it into gold.
Well I, another "scrappy DIY backyard creator" who's disabled and still lives with his mom, just turned 36 and all I have to show for it is a long since aborted SFM web series, and an overwhelming abundance of ideas with no clue how to pluck them from my imagination and into reality. And even if I could, if anyone would see it or care. And here Bob is whinging about how he *deserves* to be the next Peter Jackson or James Gunn, while being nothing more or less than a decently popular *RUclipsr* who could easily have a steady paycheck and be doing pretty well for himself if he'd just keep to the same schedule of uploads he had at The Escapist, instead of wasting time wallowing in pretension and feeling sorry for himself. All without the self awareness that Jackson, Gunn and David Allen have more raw talent in their little fingers than Bob (or I, or any failed creative with a chip on their shoulder, frankly) has in his whole body.
@@IESUproductions My guy... if you hate MovieBob, what are you even doing here? We don't build ourselves up by tearing the other guy down. And until such time as you stop... Turn From Me, For I Never Knew You.
Hey Bob, I’ve watched you since the escapist days, and your content has always been the best when done through radical positivity.
This feels like an incredible return to form and no one else does it quite like you. Hope to see more awesome optimistic long form stuff like this.
There are some RUclips channels, like yours, whose videos I watch as soon as they come out, and others, like Folding Ideas, that I stick on a playlist and get to in the shower weeks or months down the line. But I had to pause this video and go watch Dan Olson's once you got started talking about it, so thank you Bob. Both videos feel considerably more monumental for you getting me to do so. :D
Holy hell, Bob. What an amazing fucking video.
I'm glad you're still around, all through your trials and tribulations, making your videos and sharing your passions and making me Think. But in this case, also making me Feel.
I lost track of this, and am bummed I missed the theatrical release--definitely going to try for that BluRay. Thanks Bob--movies like this deserve this kind of attention and respect paid to them.
Like Freakazoid said in that clip Bob used in the past 2 Big Picture episodes, "That made water come out my eyes."
Nice work Bob. In a media space where the cheap seats are mostly filled by people sneering at creatives, this is a worthy piece.
I just got to part 2, and I want to say: I love your stuff Bob. Even this. Maybe it’s because I’m technically an elder millennial, but I’m right there with you.
You’re doing a great job.
'l need to still believe that that's possible'.Jesus Christ man this voice almost cracked on that one. You can feel the pain
17:41
Bob, any time you put Robot Jox on the screen, you have my full attention. I still love that movie so much.
34:21 - 35:02 Even though I don't personally know you Moviebob, this part right here reminded me of when I fell in love with your videos❤😊😄💖
I’m at the age and point in my life where, even if I didn’t know the heart wrenching story of its creation, I would still want to see this movie.
I’d want to see it, if it came out 40 years ago and there was nothing special about seeing it now. This sounds right up my alley and everything else just compels me to make it a priority to watch/own.
Thanks, Bob!
Bob thank yoh for sharing your passion and being honest, open and venerable in expressing your love of film. You have had a profound effect on my life since I was 18 years old to a now 32 and im thankful for you exposing me to this art and having a deeper understanding of the world through that lense.
11:25 Speaking as a writer whose ghostwriting is the only thing that got him published so far, I say this about failure and limitation. Accept that they exist but never accept them as a permanent condition.
Movie Bob is great. I look forward to watching each of his videos.
That's a helluva' thing... Cheers for the emotional New Big Picture, Bob. :')
This was definitely worth doing a "Special" Big Picture episode about, especially as it ties into the "Backyard Filmmaking" pioneered by James Rolfe and the like, holy cow...
Well fuck this hit really hard. Amazing video Bob
That was just a fantastic video, man. Thank you for giving me something to feel good about today.
The best art is almost always when someone has a neat idea and just goes with it. Especially with movies, when all the hands that touch ut get to throw stuff they like into the mix. Not stuff someone thinks will sell, but something they themselves would enjoy. Even if the finished movie isn't my favorite I usually enjoy yhe ride because everyone who made had a blast doing so. Its like watching kids building something buckwild out of a big tote of Legos that have been handed down and added to for generations, no instructions just just wanted to make something cool.
This is kind of anecdotal but given what you brought up about David Allen I wanted to share it with you:
I just saw this movie called TUESDAY (the A24 movie with Julia Louie Dreyfus where Death is a macaw) that signs off with a message about how the "real" afterlife is the legacy a person leaves behind and how we honor/remember them when they're gone. It's kinda serendipitous to hear that message and now hear the story of David Allen "beating death", knowing that he and his work were so beloved that his friends/colleagues honored it by finishing this movie and releasing it. It's genuinely inspiring to see it. That's the kind of legacy one could really aspire to.
Forget age. Forget other people's paths. Remember Satoshi Kon (Paprika, Perfect Blue)? He died young of Pancreatic cancer. He said "I am grateful for my own unique path." And the key here is UNIQUE. Ever one has a unique path and comparison is the thief of joy.
Oh wow. Thank you for sharing that quote :)
Great video Bob. Thank you
I've been watching for years bob. If you ask me why, I wouldnt be able to say. But this kind of video answers that.
Bob, I'd never hear about these parts of cinema if it wasn't for you. Thanks man.
I'm 34 and thinking about trying my hand at becoming an artist, my grandfather has a bunch of old art supplies lying around the house and we still have several of his paintings so I might be able to make it work. Weirdly enough it was seeing the documentary "My Kid Could Paint That" which inspired me to try it, whether that kid actually did those paintings or not the fact that people were willing to pay crazy amounts of money for them got me thinking I should try my hand at it. My art teacher in high school always praised my work, I thought she was just being nice at the time but maybe she was telling the truth.
I started writing a novel 10 years ago, and am in the process of shopping it for a publisher. The grind sucks, I have no real contacts no matter how much I try, and it always seems as if the only person who thinks this book can be a success is just me.
But this video, and the comments section here reminded me why I still believe, why I _should_ still believe. Thanks Bob. You’ve always been one of the good ones.
Such is the climb...Terry Pratchett once said you never think you're gonna get there. And then you do if you just hold on. So keep trucking, friend.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Sir Terry was one my favorite writers, along with his good friend Neil Gaiman, and both of them heavily inspired my book, so thanks for the reminder there, buddy!
Thank you for shareing this story. Thank you for letting me know about this movie.
25:38 THE most emotional I have ever seen you on camera, Mr Chipman...it's a good look. Tells your audience how much this story means to you. 😢
Besides maybe The Doctor Sleep review, its one of the only times this version of Bob has been so clear to us. It's something to behold.
This video feels, more than anything, inevitable. Given your preferences in video games and movies, and your preferred style of video and general mindset, your work overlaps with both James Rolfe and Dan Olson to various degrees, not in an unoriginal way, just in the organic way that people with similar tastes sometimes resemble one another. That a work *by* Dan Olson commenting *on* James Rolfe would inspire some powerful feelings seems only natural, considering. I imagine a *lot* of people are feeling some stuff from it, myself included. I don't imagine many of us here are exactly where we want to be in life, or where we imagined ourselves being at our current ages. But it gives me hope to see you out there, still trying your damnedest. And for what it's worth, I'd say you're one of the best film critics working today.
Love the thumbnail, by the way, very clever. It showed up in my recommendations literally right next to Dan's video, too, as though RUclips's algorithm can tell.
Dammit Bob you made me cry and I didn't see it coming. But you also reminded me why I dearly love this kind of film and why, back in the day I went to grad school to do a bit of film studies.
Thank you. And thank you for making me appreciate I'm in same generation as you!
Just want to add in with everyone saying they appreciate this heartfelt examination. Thank you for your vulnerability, Bob, it means a lot to many people.
This is the first time I've heard of, Dave Allen? Allan? This effin youtube video brought tears to my eyes. Good job, Bob. Good job...
Had no idea this even existed, after HOTD I’ll definitely be watching this. Thanks Bob!!
If you truly feel a kinship with these B movie/so called backyard filmmakers or even these big name directors that went on to bigger things, I'm not gonna stop you. In fact, you've been talking about making projects like that for years and it's what I wish for you and I hope it really happens someday. I'm gonna make an effort to track down The Primevals and see it for myself.
Your passion for this kind of work is clear, and I feel it's part of why you loved Hundreds of Beavers so much (which I'll finally have a chance to see very soon).
I sat with the comment box for a while trying to find a way to articulate how well this vid comes together despite a real rough start and eventually this is all I could write. The movies that really animate you are always going to come out to the best vids you make. ❤
Thank you for making this video. I've never seen a stop-motion picture, but I will make sure to watch this one
Wow, really heartfelt episode
This is rad, my father did special effects my whole life, so I'm getting him this bluray. This would be like getting a cleaned up full finished version of The Thief and the Cobbler.
As a small side note, I love that the red ninja in the clip from your old videos uses two katana linked together at the hilt, just like Ryo from Ronin Warriors/Samurai Troopers. It's a little thing that makes me smile, so thank you for that :)
Jesus, Bob, when you get emotional, it hits hard. This is an amazing tribute video in its own right. Well done.
They should release a VHS version in an old clamshell box. Or maybe have a version in the boxed set that looks like an old VHS copy. Like it was a video that fell behind the rack in Stop and Go Video and people forgot about it, but now it's been found and released on eBay. Something like that. By the way, I guess Rocky was wrong when he said that time beats everyone; it's undefeated.
Thank you for highlighting this movie and the incredible story behind it.
Thank you Bob. As some-one on that Gen X/Milenial Cusp who has just started writing in my mid forties, this one really spoke to me.
Gen Xer here...started my pro writing as a ghostwriter in my mid-30s at the height of the Great Recession. Trust me when I say it can be done so long as you can accept the rigors of the path.
I wish you a good journey down this road we have chosen. May it fulfill you as much or more as it has me.
I love this video. My favorite work of yours in years. Not that I haven't enjoyed what you've been putting out!
"This movie beath time. This movie bit death." Well, I have a movie to go watch.
This video, your art, made me want to see this love letter to a lost friend put to film that I wouldn't have, otherwise. This is a gorgeous video; please know your work is impactful, loved, and appreciated, Bob.
This made me cry in a happy way. Thank you for making it.
I watched Dan's video this morning, and I'm watching this around 7pm. Really glad you made this video and I'll definitely check out the film, once I find something that will play a disc. Good work man. Also I'm 35 and I've never thought of RUclipsr as an epithet. There are some artists within every medium who are grifters, and you're not one of those. ❤
Videos like this are why I love your work. Before watching, I knew nothing about this film or the work of David Allen, or why such knowledge might be beautiful or interesting. Now I do. Keep on being the thoughtful, insightful, and funny creative that you are. Don't let the state of youtube or the world drag you down.
Thanks for sharing Bob. That’s amazing.
Wow this was a whole education on a movie I watched a few nights ago (loved it). I assumed out of hand that it was a great homage to that period of SFX filmmaking, not in fact a surviving opus from an artist whose work I've seen so often my whole life. Thanks for this, and I can't wait to watch The Primevals many more times.
Wow. Great video Bob. Made me feel pretty hopeful for a few minutes today.
Thank you for this.
I mean not just about this movie and it's history, but your optimism. What you said about the folding ideas thing...I needed that. It got me down for a bit. But this was a spirit heart booster that spoke to me somehow...I don't know why. But thank u.❤
Remember this one, friend, and keep it close to heart. Optimism is the only sane attitude to have. There's plenty that will try and cripple and kill every one of your hopes by telling you the other way is the truth.
Those people are full of it.
Nothing is forever and that includes obstacles, bad times and the ones who would thwart your deepest hopes. Plenty of grounds for optimism right there.
Thank you for sharing this with us, Bob.
A fascinating look at some film history. It's awesome that this movie was completed and exists!
Been waiting for this for years. There's also a DUNGEONMASTER 2 short film that needs to be finished, too.
Damn, this was a real good one.
Excellent essay and incredibly touching and meaningful feeling. Thank you so much for sharing this - as a fellow Xer the larger meaning had a lot of connections to me.
I grew up on Full Moon, I am stoked to learn about the existence of this movie.
That is a great mentality Bob. The second you give up, is when part of you dies.
It took me 15 years to get a job I love
Giving up on what you truly love rarely works out. So always reach for it, find where you truly fit.
I've watched you for many years and your my favorite
I graduated from university with a film degree in 2022, same day Liz Truss became Prime Minister and two days before the Queen died. I have been looking for a job for the past year and a half. I'm on universal credit, I've been given advice from support groups and I've applied for so, so many jobs it just starts to blurr. Then recently, either out of boredom or just I cracked I made a short skit, about a brick wall and a fence have conversation. Weird idea? Yes. But then I made another short film, which is mostly just me playing around with my emails and my laptops screen recorder and turned that into a horror short film. If people making videos out of their multiplayer Halo matches, comic book review shows or web series about video games then I can make sure make something out of nothing.
That's how the creative drive works, isn't it? Seems to come from nowhere and then you've no choice but to follow.
Woah, 40mins. Gonna need to watch this from a seated position.
Looks like I have something to watch now. Thanks Bob, this looks awesome, and has an amazing story. I can’t wait.
Thanks for sharing! I'm always around. You rock, Bob!
This was a fantastic video, and well suited to the... message? Theme? That you hoped to hit upon. I can't wait to watch the Primevals.
Good video Bob
This video got to me. In high-school and in my early 20s, I made videos with my friends. Most of it was jackass stuff because jackass was during this time. I always found time to write a few skits and have my friends act them out video. Sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was stupid, but we always had fun making them. This video took me back to the days I wanted to be an actor/film maker. This video makes me want to buy a camera and start filming again. This was great video for those who still have dreams.
As I was watching this I was drawing a multi-part comic in my sketchbook, a passion project I do in my spare time about an idea I’ve nurtured since college with a character I made up when I was 6. I’m directly posting it online from my sketchbook because I don’t know how to do digital art and this analog pencil and ink way is what I’ve drawn comics in my whole like and I’m most comfortable with it.
This episode struck a deep nerve for me, is what I’m saying.
Amazing video. I hadn't heard about this at all, I cannot wait to watch it.
I'm glad they finally finished the film. Just saw the trailer, and I like it. I think I heard of this, but I can't prove it.
As for the side topic, RUclips drama is youtube drama.
No matter if The Primevals is just an anachronism or an actual decent film, it sounds like, at the very least, it's one talented artist's Sci-Fi cinema opus. That makes it worth a watch in my book.
I can ramble too, Bob! No, I'm just kidding. Thank you for being so genuine and vulnerable while talking about this. I empathize with this video's topics, and I'm excited to watch a landmark in film history.
Thank you for this video Bob! I'll be ordering the single release for sure! Maybe ge extras as gifts.
I just don't know how to feel about any of this.
Thanks Bob. ❤
This is great work, Bob.
That was beautifully expressed. Thank you
Been a loyal fan of yours for...let's say a decade. This is by far some of your finest work. Possibly the best video of yours I've seen. Thanks for not being ashamed to be genuinely moved by a dumb little movie about yetis and lizard men. I know I am.
you started out comparing it to the folding ideas/AVGN stuff...but i've been watching caitlin doughty a lot lately and this moreso reminded me of her and how she covers death. "this movie beat death" sums it up perfectly. it's the culmination of who allan was as an artist, an ongoing monument to his life and his work towards a medium he loved. his friends loved him enough to ensure his vision wouldn't be lost to time. it's simultaneously a work of art and a memorial to it's creator.
I'm not a person who believes in fate, but learning of this for the first time on today, when the news is as bad as it can get, when I NEEDED a news item like this, feels like fate. Damn did I need this.
Hail and Fare Well, David Allen.
Bravo, Bob. Thank you. 👏
I've been a Full Moon fan for decades yet somehow I never heard of this film until now, chalk that up to me not really reading sci-fi or horror magazines I guess, anyways definitely going to check this out.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I’ll be watching it tonight and keeping an eye out for the next Blu-ray release
Love you, Bob. I really hope that you keep in mind how much more meaningful what you're doing is than the movie making you could be doing. You are an essayist and a polemicist, so I don't guess at the meaning you want to communicate-I am persuaded by it and changed by it. It becomes part of me in a way that no amount of great films could. I'm not incorporating your dream into my tastes-I'm adding your ideas to my psyche. Being persuaded is closer to a religious experience than an artistic or esthetic one, so you are a the bigger deal.