@@MrRiq29 what y’all don’t understand is EVERYONE was on them fucked up 8 album deals for 100k Lmao I’ll never blame a man for fooling another man, shame on you for not knowing the game and letting a nigga take advantage of you, but no one learns without trails and tribulations, dame got burned too, he gave these rappers everything they asked for, if beans knew the game I’m sure he would’ve came outta that deal the winner, it’s how the game works, and these industry cats know how it goes.
@joejoiner8582 seems pretty obvious you don't know what went on. J wasn't in charge Dame was the owner, j was the artist and was in control of the artist so that's why that statement was made. J pulled some snake shiiiii and douback on Dame
He actually was and do you hear all of his battles with everyone that turned and start talking about Def Jam in all this and not his business rocafella. It's sad cause this proof he had to find out through his friends 5hat shit started to change. He fought so hard and this is proof.
Looking at actual footage of early dame he definitely was a different type of CEO he really seemed like he wanted the roc to be bigger than def jam not to mention not to many executives making it to their artists court date it also looks as if jay may have been making his own deals without dames knowledge once again choke keep them memories coming I like factual shit all day everyday
Choke put this and the other content you sitting on out on a big platform like the Kanye doc did.. Bring in a team to help you produce it like they did because lord knows it's a lot work to piece together. This is just as legendary if not more so, you'll make crazy millions even when breaking off others.. Salute always and thanks for recording all these jewels in time.
Bro dame is a good business man with bad business acumen. He has good vision poor execution, if you just sit and watch a dame dash interview it’s clear to see he’s simply a out of control control freak. And who wants to deal with that. Which is why Hov is where he is and dame is where he is. You see biggs with dame now you see Biggs with Hov. FINALLY STARTING TO SEE WHAT 🤔
When Jay came to dame to get in the game and formed the rock he came with his own money. Everybody else came with open hands do your research before making a comment.
@@delmarwillis9380 When theres two sides to a story you stay out of shit. They have they're own lives they live. Like you said they take it way too personal.
I’m not sure if culture is the right word but clearly Jay was about furthering his own career while Dame wanted success for everybody under the label. If Jay didn’t crush Rocafella I think they would have been a bigger giant than Def Jam and could be worth billions.
That shit makes no sense he didnt want to feature on new artists music to help push it he gets money off his verse, hes the label so collecting and getting props for breaking new talent...... This would have been the biggest label ever if they were all ''working together'' such a waste
Friends vs Employees… completely different relationship. Jay always told them boys to go get hot on their own then linkup ‘cause they all have multiple records with Jay. He is wild tho 🍻
@@ObiKwabKenobi I agree him and biggie got tight it became natural for them to make records....he probably couldn't wrap his mind around being on every damn single or at every video shoot which makes sense...that."when they see you too much you know they tryna get you touched " line still applied lol
For what? J was his partner, he represented the roc as a ceo and an artist. He wasn't contracted to dame, that's why he couldn't make any moves when j left.
Someone called Dame in the car and Dame ain't even let them speak before he went talking non stop 🤦🏾♂️ Dame won't even try to see something from someone else perspective. Dude cussing Infront the kids. Smh.
Most leaders have their fathers in there life dame was making more as a teen than his father was. He just a boss run his shit like he want an know his worth... J was a sell out that's how kanye at a point was supposed to be worth more than him cause kanye never sold his brand.
Jay was simply sick and tired of the way Damn carries himself. The constant talking over people and shouting. Regardless Damn a standup dude. Jay a znake. IMO. But i guess thats how human beings are. Znakes. 💯💯💯💥💥💥💥
@@TheKillerEmcee Sheisty businessman? He was the fucking business. Dame was eating off and Jay and so was everyone else. You let somebody bleed you dry when you put all the work in?
the camron move didnt do anything to sway jayz one way or nother . he was already moving as he was moving. i know jay z said something about cam but i dont believe thats the reason at al
Yeah his business partner making moves with the business and structure of the business without talking to him or the other business parter, had absolutely nothing to do with him not wanting to deal with him anymore
This man just traveled hours to make sure he supported his employee while arguing with crooked mf on the phone to protect stuff that could effect his employees money. I’m not saying Dame was perfect but you sound stupid posting that on this video.
"I'm a BUSINESS man ,not a businessman ,let me handle my business damn " idk what he wasn't doing or was doing but his other artist Dipset Birdgang prospered and he basically Xed hova out for them , remember cam was rocafella vice president..another hova quote "you only know what you see ,you don't understand what it takes to be me "
All these old videos got ppl hype lol Dame was tryna b the hip hop Alpo if ppl didn’t see that… he was tryna make the Roc a Harlem them… DONT get Manipulated by the way he speaks … JAY Z WAS ROC-A-FELLA….
Nah that’s a lie. Beans is one of the best rapper ever. Better rapper than jay. When someone feel threatened they try to shut you down from rising. Dame looks at it as a ceo. Jay look at it as beans trying to or may take my spot. Snake z a fraud
@@VeeTwelve202 Jay been a puppet when 50 went to the pen to visit his uncle that got life he heared Beans was locked up in there to so 50 visited him one day and they spoke about Bean's situation and 50 asked him about his deal and Jay Bean's told him Jay never visited him or called him up so 50 told him tell Jay to sign the release papers 50 would pay for the lawyers and everything else but he want it to sign Beanie ! When Beanie got out he went straight to the office and told Jay that 50 is interested in signing him, when Jay heared 50's name he got upset and told Beanie that he could never do that sign him over to 50 because Jay knew 50 and Beans together = Problem so Jay offered him money and a new whip but Beanie didn't want that he want it his own money ! Jay was holding Beanie back and want it him under him how 50 said Jay is scared of competition after that Nas situation he never responded to 50, Lox, Cam and Dipset
To be honest,dame thought he was much smarter than biggs and jay,and that was his biggest mistake….a man who thinks that way is blind!!! Yes he’s a great guy,and if I was ever to be partners with him? I will be tired of his attitude/character to business…..jay got fed up and left
Jay been a puppet when 50 went to the pen to visit his uncle that got life he heared Beans was locked up in there to so 50 visited him one day and they spoke about Bean's situation and 50 asked him about his deal and Jay, Bean's told him Jay never visited him or called him up so 50 told him tell Jay to sign the release papers 50 would pay for the lawyers and everything else but he want it to sign Beanie ! When Beanie got out he went straight to the office and told Jay that 50 is interested in signing him, when Jay heared 50's name he got upset and told Beanie that he could never do that sign him over to 50 because Jay knew 50 and Beans together = Problem so Jay offered him money and a new whip but Beanie didn't want that he want it his own money ! Jay was holding Beanie back and want it him under him how 50 said Jay is scared of competition after that Nas situation he never responded to 50, Lox, Cam ! Only Jim but everybody knows he is and been softer then a muffin thats also the reason he signed Tru Life just to pnk him 😂😂💯
I heard Dame never missed a court date That's 💯
Outta Sigel’s mouth too 📠
Beans said it was smoke and mirrors since Dame knew Jay was leavin, so the next in line was Beans to hold the Roc down
Yea cause he was stealing money from him beans said dame stole millions
@@MrRiq29 what y’all don’t understand is EVERYONE was on them fucked up 8 album deals for 100k Lmao I’ll never blame a man for fooling another man, shame on you for not knowing the game and letting a nigga take advantage of you, but no one learns without trails and tribulations, dame got burned too, he gave these rappers everything they asked for, if beans knew the game I’m sure he would’ve came outta that deal the winner, it’s how the game works, and these industry cats know how it goes.
@@kingflores8915 that was a lot of money for 2003
That DA went to jail a few years ago for not reporting “ Gifts “ he received while in office.
Huh?
Bet 100 dollars Dame told Biggs to sit there and hold the phone to his ear.
He was NEVER on the phone😂
Bruh 🤣🤣🤣
He was listening to his voicemail foo
Dame was a monster and i love it.
Choke got too much history 💯
Thanks Bro!
@@claudiaclaudia936 Word!
I feel like Jay was making moves behind Dame and Biggs back like “no go ahead, it’s ok”
Dame was already working on forming dame dash music group
@@andreearl3258 🤔
how was it behind they back when it was in paperwork??? Consult with Jay seems pretty obvious who is in charge
Jay was and still is the Judas in this motion picture when it hits theaters🤦🏾♂️
@joejoiner8582 seems pretty obvious you don't know what went on. J wasn't in charge Dame was the owner, j was the artist and was in control of the artist so that's why that statement was made. J pulled some snake shiiiii and douback on Dame
You know there's an issue when two CEOs are on the cellphone, in business suits, right next to each other.
Dame would have made an excellent Civil Rights or Criminal Defense Attorney
Dame doesn't even know at this point that Jay was already negotiating with Def Jam lol smh
Of course he did he just put on a brave face
Not about a camron record he wasn’t
He actually was and do you hear all of his battles with everyone that turned and start talking about Def Jam in all this and not his business rocafella. It's sad cause this proof he had to find out through his friends 5hat shit started to change. He fought so hard and this is proof.
Looking at actual footage of early dame he definitely was a different type of CEO he really seemed like he wanted the roc to be bigger than def jam not to mention not to many executives making it to their artists court date it also looks as if jay may have been making his own deals without dames knowledge once again choke keep them memories coming I like factual shit all day everyday
Choke put this and the other content you sitting on out on a big platform like the Kanye doc did.. Bring in a team to help you produce it like they did because lord knows it's a lot work to piece together. This is just as legendary if not more so, you'll make crazy millions even when breaking off others.. Salute always and thanks for recording all these jewels in time.
It’s not really his footage. It’s dames footage. He paid choke to do this
@@ch3o2fmg nope because he never got paid for it
Agree
Yo Choke keep putting out this lost footage!!! I know you got some gems in the archives.
Dames suit is crazy, wonder what brand, if thats a rocawear, its one of the nicest suits i have seen
Dash wanting to put a ball team together and hook up a sports clothing store.
Ah.... By the comments people are FINALLY starting to see who Jay is... About time
Bro dame is a good business man with bad business acumen. He has good vision poor execution, if you just sit and watch a dame dash interview it’s clear to see he’s simply a out of control control freak. And who wants to deal with that. Which is why Hov is where he is and dame is where he is. You see biggs with dame now you see Biggs with Hov. FINALLY STARTING TO SEE WHAT 🤔
So who is he really? Please explain
When Jay came to dame to get in the game and formed the rock he came with his own money. Everybody else came with open hands do your research before making a comment.
@@delmarwillis9380 When theres two sides to a story you stay out of shit. They have they're own lives they live. Like you said they take it way too personal.
@@Just_KennySTL314 look up dame dash copyright infringement lawsuits....
Jay was gone at this point.💯
Choke No Joke! will 4ever be hip hop's
legendary videographer/Producer/Writer/Author hip hop's history 💯✌🏾✊🏾🙏🏾
First youtube vlogger
since Dame got crossed out, all i heard from the Roc is about a damn brunch. J pushed himself forward, Dame pushed the culture forward
You high 😂, jay got his hands in everything
@@preciousigbokwe1391 HATER!
@@natty.roots.423 is curren$y a hater for suing him?
what?? how???
I’m not sure if culture is the right word but clearly Jay was about furthering his own career while Dame wanted success for everybody under the label. If Jay didn’t crush Rocafella I think they would have been a bigger giant than Def Jam and could be worth billions.
I love beans so much I'm willing to make the whole 30 minute drive to Philly to be there for him
Get off that man’s jock.
Dame you extreme focus a real one definitely 💯
The sleepy look was a thing back in the day lol
Still is; however, this generation takes heavy substances to achieve the look.
That shit makes no sense he didnt want to feature on new artists music to help push it he gets money off his verse, hes the label so collecting and getting props for breaking new talent...... This would have been the biggest label ever if they were all ''working together'' such a waste
Jay is a clown and never wanted to help Dame and DIpset
@@greedyebk7146 how 50 said Jay is scared of competition 💯
Did it ever occur to anyone why Jay Z wasn't just upfront with Dame?
Exactly
"The New Pornagraphers" on the sign when Dame was in Philly was crazy
I peeped that too
Dame seriously needs to develop another label on his own 🤷🏽♂️
U need to take this Netflix!!!
Choke you are super smart that's keeping receipts. Lol
This should be on streaming platforms
Dame yelling bout business in the streets.
Jay not willing to help other artists.
Shit sad BOTH ways.
Roc Nation say u a lie. Rhianna, Jay Cole , Meg and others say u a lie.
DAME IS 💯💯💯💯💯💯
I don’t know who to believe between Dame or Jay-Z cause to me both of these dudes sound and do the same things
Bingo!!!
facts!!!..
BOTH got more CONS then Pros.
Cut from the same cloths
This is some classic footage my boy and I been messing with u since u was on dvds 📀 💯
R🍾📀
Dang they cudda had smack dvd and the come up if they invested in joke
nobody went to court like beans
TRUTH ALL DAY EVERY DAY , EVEN ON YOUR BIRTHDAY!! ... ayoo CHOKE salute king!
Change that gotdam smoke detector battery
Dame for President this so convincing
Good ol days
757 respect. Hampton, VA
Hip-hop history flash back💯💪🏿
All that fighting for others got him X out the game
So dont fight for others rights and freedom to make money? I dont get it. Yall weird...
Would of been A1 having a bro like Dame when growing up, real n**ga sh*t.
Damn jay barely wanted to break the artist on his own label ....but would jump on a song with biggie quick when he wasn't poppin yet smh
Jay was a wild dude
Friends vs Employees… completely different relationship. Jay always told them boys to go get hot on their own then linkup ‘cause they all have multiple records with Jay. He is wild tho 🍻
@@ObiKwabKenobi diary of a selfish dude lol
@@ObiKwabKenobi I agree him and biggie got tight it became natural for them to make records....he probably couldn't wrap his mind around being on every damn single or at every video shoot which makes sense...that."when they see you too much you know they tryna get you touched " line still applied lol
I didn’t understand when Dame said that cause Jay was on Cam’s album, Amil’s album, Bleek’s album, and if not mistaken Beans album.
“Stupid is colourless”
Tortious interference
Dame should have sued def jam universal for 100 million
For what? J was his partner, he represented the roc as a ceo and an artist. He wasn't contracted to dame, that's why he couldn't make any moves when j left.
Dame represents the fatherless generation arguing, loud, excessive and sadly somebody who’s cons outweigh his pros
Someone called Dame in the car and Dame ain't even let them speak before he went talking non stop 🤦🏾♂️
Dame won't even try to see something from someone else perspective. Dude cussing Infront the kids. Smh.
Most leaders have their fathers in there life dame was making more as a teen than his father was. He just a boss run his shit like he want an know his worth... J was a sell out that's how kanye at a point was supposed to be worth more than him cause kanye never sold his brand.
Choke got videos that will expose ur favorite rapper
Lol the smoke alarm.
Even rich people won't change they fire alarm lol churp churp churp
Dame Dash is a solid dude from Harlem Jay-z fling flanged him
Dame a real 1
Jay was simply sick and tired of the way Damn carries himself. The constant talking over people and shouting. Regardless Damn a standup dude. Jay a znake. IMO. But i guess thats how human beings are. Znakes. 💯💯💯💥💥💥💥
Thats a typical billionaiee 😂😂
How’s Hov a snake 🤔
Jay was probably thinking why is dame wasting his time in Philly?
Plain as day @ 6:40 , says DeF Jam recordings 😂😂, Dame Was Right
You knew they lying to dame when they said they consulted jay bout a camron record 😂😂😂😂
Aye dame on south street 😎😎😎
This one was interesting bro
Dame isn't talking to anybody on the phone, he's doing all the talking
U notice that too.. smh..
Someone called Dame in the car and Dame ain't even let them speak before he went talking non stop 🤦🏾♂️
Love the history joke !!!
"Consulted with Jay" lol shoutout to Hov for always having that paperwork on point.
Yall really praising a nigga for being a sheisty businessman. This world is insane smh
@@TheKillerEmcee Sheisty businessman? He was the fucking business. Dame was eating off and Jay and so was everyone else. You let somebody bleed you dry when you put all the work in?
Man the Roc was just taking hits left and right at that time smh
Hey Choke
Hey Nat ❤️
Dame was wasting his time with a criminal… All that bickering for nothing.
jay was wrong for not leaving rocafella the correct way...you suppose to consult your partners before transitioning to another company.
He did. He took Dame and Biggs out to dinner and told them.
Artist been getting paid wat roc a fella tell me if the brains behind brand living like this
Gay Z put the alphabet boys on his team to sell out, considering Jay had two Feds strategically placed on his team now.
FBI
DEA
Lol
Tgr
Who you Witt??
Classic footage
They was saying pause back then??
@@eib3137 even before that
the camron move didnt do anything to sway jayz one way or nother . he was already moving as he was moving. i know jay z said something about cam but i dont believe thats the reason at al
Yeah his business partner making moves with the business and structure of the business without talking to him or the other business parter, had absolutely nothing to do with him not wanting to deal with him anymore
I bet you the person he was screaming at on the phone is probably still in the record business. Act accordingly is a jewel he missed.
I was glad when jay-z left him behind he treated his employees and people like shit
like you know what you talking about
@@seanmoore9878 you want to argue and debate not here
This man just traveled hours to make sure he supported his employee while arguing with crooked mf on the phone to protect stuff that could effect his employees money. I’m not saying Dame was perfect but you sound stupid posting that on this video.
You don't know what your talking about
My G , it did say Def jam tho 😂😂😂😂 lol , similar to when they were on tour and they got def jam jackets 😂
I put it up on erome but they keep taking it down
"I'm a BUSINESS man ,not a businessman ,let me handle my business damn " idk what he wasn't doing or was doing but his other artist Dipset Birdgang prospered and he basically Xed hova out for them , remember cam was rocafella vice president..another hova quote "you only know what you see ,you don't understand what it takes to be me "
I think you got the verse mixed up with somebody else that's not the way it goes
Biggs wasn't even on the phone just trying to look important
Not saying a damn thing...
Dame still that Dude!!!!!!!
Yes they did consult with Jay
All these old videos got ppl hype lol Dame was tryna b the hip hop Alpo if ppl didn’t see that… he was tryna make the Roc a Harlem them… DONT get Manipulated by the way he speaks … JAY Z WAS ROC-A-FELLA….
GREAT
Dame didn’t care bout beans he just wanted JAY to look bad in the eyes of beans
Nah that’s a lie. Beans is one of the best rapper ever. Better rapper than jay. When someone feel threatened they try to shut you down from rising. Dame looks at it as a ceo. Jay look at it as beans trying to or may take my spot. Snake z a fraud
@@VeeTwelve202 Jay been a puppet when 50 went to the pen to visit his uncle that got life he heared Beans was locked up in there to so 50 visited him one day and they spoke about Bean's situation and 50 asked him about his deal and Jay Bean's told him Jay never visited him or called him up so 50 told him tell Jay to sign the release papers 50 would pay for the lawyers and everything else but he want it to sign Beanie ! When Beanie got out he went straight to the office and told Jay that 50 is interested in signing him, when Jay heared 50's name he got upset and told Beanie that he could never do that sign him over to 50 because Jay knew 50 and Beans together = Problem so Jay offered him money and a new whip but Beanie didn't want that he want it his own money ! Jay was holding Beanie back and want it him under him how 50 said Jay is scared of competition after that Nas situation he never responded to 50, Lox, Cam and Dipset
Nice
Dame changed
Hey do you have the footage from the day we went to the horse races in LA w Joe Pesci?
Hilarious how all those ppl don’t recognize the.
The.
To be honest,dame thought he was much smarter than biggs and jay,and that was his biggest mistake….a man who thinks that way is blind!!! Yes he’s a great guy,and if I was ever to be partners with him? I will be tired of his attitude/character to business…..jay got fed up and left
Free aps Corona Queens Boston 💯
He was creating bosses Jay was on sum me me...
Jay wanted nothing to do with this shit
Jay been a puppet when 50 went to the pen to visit his uncle that got life he heared Beans was locked up in there to so 50 visited him one day and they spoke about Bean's situation and 50 asked him about his deal and Jay, Bean's told him Jay never visited him or called him up so 50 told him tell Jay to sign the release papers 50 would pay for the lawyers and everything else but he want it to sign Beanie ! When Beanie got out he went straight to the office and told Jay that 50 is interested in signing him, when Jay heared 50's name he got upset and told Beanie that he could never do that sign him over to 50 because Jay knew 50 and Beans together = Problem so Jay offered him money and a new whip but Beanie didn't want that he want it his own money ! Jay was holding Beanie back and want it him under him how 50 said Jay is scared of competition after that Nas situation he never responded to 50, Lox, Cam ! Only Jim but everybody knows he is and been softer then a muffin thats also the reason he signed Tru Life just to pnk him 😂😂💯
If you follow him you can see than when he turned vegan he looked sick immediately
That gahdamn smoke detector …
🔋 and 🪜= PE class dismissed