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  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2019
  • I'm back at the cabin and figure it is about time that I review our Martin Direct Vent Propane Heater (Model#: MDV20VP). We have had the unit since early last Spring to heat the cabin.
    What is good and what is bad about it? Also, I show you the benefits of an auto-changeover regulator for a propane system.
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Комментарии • 182

  • @NumberSpace
    @NumberSpace 2 года назад +7

    I watched countless direct vent propane heater reviews and not one time did they show the heater actually running. FINALLY, a well rounded and informative review. THANK YOU!!!

  • @NLGhostWolf
    @NLGhostWolf 5 лет назад +8

    Nice little unit, I can see the benefits to a unit like this when you are looking to save space and also once you get older. Cutting and splitting wood gets tougher with age. Great review Jen

  • @tsdelaney
    @tsdelaney 3 месяца назад

    Thank you very much for your informative and practical video! I'm about to insulate and finish my 240 sq ft shed (man cave) and like you, I'm weighing all of the options. I think I'm coming to the same conclusion and I appreciate your video! All the best!

  • @IWishUDidntNoMyName
    @IWishUDidntNoMyName 4 года назад +2

    I’ve been using this heater for the last three years. For the first year I had a smaller unit then I upgraded to this unit in particular. Glad to know that I’m not the only one who’s heater pings and dings as I thought that was meaning something was wrong with it. Great review, thanks!

  • @ONESNZER0S
    @ONESNZER0S 4 года назад +2

    11:54 the leak test is successful because the propane connection fitting has a check valve that does not permit reverse flow. the tiny hole on the brass fitting has a small spring biased ball bearing that will only allow the gas to flow in one direction (from tank to source). Your videos are awesome and informative. thank you.

  • @hangingwiththehunters149
    @hangingwiththehunters149 2 года назад +1

    I had this installed at my uncle's 540 square foot place in northern Ontario. He was using electric baseboard heaters and was convinced it wasn't that expensive.
    One night it was -30°c and the power went out. He turned on this heater and couldn't believe how this heater kept the whole place toasty warm. After that he has kept it on and the price difference between heating with propane vs electricity is significantly less. He loves this heater

  • @Des-kh-41
    @Des-kh-41 4 года назад +4

    Excellent video. Some of the reviews on Amazon scared me a little about the Martin heater but your experience seems very positive. We are looking at year round use of a 12'x16' beach house in Nova Scotia. The building has a scissor truss roof so a high ceiling which will be insulated above. The BTU calculator you referenced came out a little less than 8000 BTU so the 11000 should work. Use is for 2-4 hours at a time but no overnight stays anticipated. The large thermal windows are very large but were recycled from a condo replacement project and we expect to be useful in cold weather based on current experience.
    Building is off grid but will install a small solar panel and 2 deep cycle batteries for 12v lights and small fans near a heater. Thanks again for your video.

  • @HaroldMalaby
    @HaroldMalaby 5 лет назад +3

    Yes, yes and yes. Your overview is spot on and I find mine to be the same. I would say that cleaning should be no problem since the inside cover comes off easy.
    Like most things there is upfront costs and a wood stove certainly has an initial cost/install.
    I think for me the ability to live off the land taking full advantage of wood is a must. Wood gathering, chopping and stoking the fire all part of heating with wood.
    I have both a wood stove and the unit shown here and find a backup a must. My little cabin is only 14x16 and I have found no issues with space.

  • @premodernbloke
    @premodernbloke 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the thorough review. You are smart to keep the stove vent covered when you are not there and during the warm months. I don't believe that the current configuration will keep a blowing rain out. You could make a semi-circular rain hood with sheet metal that would keep the rain out and also not impede the venting of the stove but that would not address insects, etc. Also....annually check the o-rings where your pigtails connect to the valve on the tanks. They tend to dry out and crack. I lightly lubricate mine with silicone grease.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +1

      Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the tip for the grease.

  • @RAEW57
    @RAEW57 Год назад

    I purchased my heater from Costco, it’s 8-1000 btu. I had problems lighting it , had to take the face cover off. Then I lit the pilot , every time I tried to turn to low or medium pilot went out . So after numerous try’s I lit the pilot then held the pilot stud down with a screwdriver as I turned the knob . This worked for me . Possibly needs some adjustment in that area but at least I got it lit and it kept burning.

  • @HWhit9000
    @HWhit9000 5 лет назад +4

    I've been living in my off grid 224 sq ft cabin full time, for 4 years and use propane for heating, cooking, and hot water on demand. The first winter, I used one of those little buddy heaters, which worked fine, but the temperature control was something to be considered. So the following summer, I had the propane company come and install a 250 gallon tank and plumb in the appliances. I now get my tank refilled once a year and use about 150 gallons average per year.
    Since I am now retired, I have no desire to depend on chopping and splitting wood to keep warm. My propane heater is made by Cozy-World and is rated for heating up to 500 sq ft, so it has no problem heating my small cabin, even on the coldest of nights.
    I do have a video on my channel of my propane system, if interested.
    Blessings.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      I may put in a propane stove/fridge etc some day. Having someone come into place a big tank may be a good idea. Just have to figure out how they'd get in and where to put it. I'll have to check out your system.

  • @Jeanbanville
    @Jeanbanville 2 года назад

    I like your set up with the two 40 tanks. I have one in my house since we have a lot of power outages in my area of Laurentides. We're happy with it.

  • @lindafarner9755
    @lindafarner9755 5 лет назад

    Jen you will love this heat vs the stinky kerosene that smoke everything up. We use gas heat at our camp for downstairs and electric heaters upstairs. Peoples really obsessed about condensation . Things will look sweaty for awhile when you go to a camp during the winter time. Everything is frozen solid but as the place warms up which take about a good 12-24 hours depending on how cold it is the place dried out. A lot of time when we close up on Sunday shampoos and veg oil are still frozen solid. Such is life at camp in winter

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Yes so true. Our oil etc is frozen solid!!

  • @martincharbonneau9635
    @martincharbonneau9635 2 года назад +1

    I found a trick to share with you. This is to keep as much heat inside. Place a running ventilator on the floor facing up under the heater when he is hot, enjoy!

  • @gregk.6723
    @gregk.6723 4 года назад +10

    Having the heater lower to the floor will be better ( heat rises ).

    • @djhudson007
      @djhudson007 2 года назад

      I know right it's mounted like an AC lol definitely the wrong way to do that.. those need to be on the floor

  • @lowellgates5652
    @lowellgates5652 5 лет назад +1

    Enjoy your videos!
    I have a similar type LP heater in my 12' x 24' "lofted barn" cabin in north Missouri, US. Mine is a different brand that I bought through my local LP supplier, similar price to yours.
    The biggest complaint on mine is that due to clearances & the fact that the controls are on the bottom of the unit is that I have to lay on the floor to light it. Just something potential buyers might want to look into before purchase!

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      That sounds tricky. Ours lights from the top so I'm happy with that.

  • @plyoung11
    @plyoung11 2 года назад

    My propane fireplace died this fall and I was looking for something to supplement my woodstove. I watched your video and immediately ordered a Martin. I got the larger model. I’m ready for whatever the Ottawa Valley throws at me this winter! PS: weirdly I also have a Bouvier… Two of them

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 Год назад

      I must say I think a mini split is the perfect partner for a wood stove as long as you have reasonable electric rates. In my area running a mini split is about half the cost of propane.

  • @watchmanonthewall3852
    @watchmanonthewall3852 5 лет назад

    Propane is fine as long as it's available. Down here in the states, Colorado (I think) issued a state of emergency a month or so ago (middle of winter), because the supply of propane was "critically low" and the governor warned those utilizing propane to conserve accordingly. Why not consider a small wood stove like a Nomad or G-stove that you could easily set up and use in the winter and take it down and store it away in the summer. They have really small stove pipes so the vent hole to the outside could be fitted with a cap or plug when not in use. They have portable hearths made out of fireproof flexible material that you can hang behind/place under the stove. They are use a lot by those winter tent camping and seem like it would be a good "back-up" or supplement to your propane heater. Just a thought. You do have plenty of wood and would make things less dependent on others...just in case. Great videos...Thanks

  • @daisyduck61
    @daisyduck61 3 года назад

    I have build me a she shed for my sewing. I took my screen IN porch close in. I love it. It only 256 sq. feet. I have Nature Gas just put in. I dont need any thing fancy just keep warm in there when i sewing I have Direct Out of the wall

  • @PaolaEnergya
    @PaolaEnergya 5 лет назад +1

    This unit looks very efficient. I moved to Ireland and the house came with a wood stove: it takes 5 hours to go from 11 degrees Celsius to 16 degrees...

    • @randyscott8660
      @randyscott8660 5 лет назад

      you must have a small wood stove or a big house. How the Russians do it is they build a 4x4 or smaller square thick brick wall with the stove in the middle it heats the brick and stays warm all nite

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Wow!

  • @brightelskerfoundation
    @brightelskerfoundation 2 года назад

    Well done, its great. You could consider building a medium - large box frame with a sloping roof around the flue. And enclose the box frame with mosquito net.
    God bless you.

  • @ve3xtr
    @ve3xtr 5 лет назад

    Now that I'm back from the cabin, I had a chance to watch that sexy Martin heater. 3 hours to heat. The reason for that is the high cathedral ceiling you have in your place. I can't remember exactly how high you said it was in your other video but that would definitely be a contributing factor to the long heat time. Cathedral ceilings are nice but they are a waste of usable space. Fans do make a huge difference in how fast you can heat a space.
    This is the first winter in our cabin and I appreciate walking in after a 2 hour drive and turning the gas heater on. Yeah, wood is nice, I have it back at the house but it's messy no matter how careful you are, and yes, you need to chop and split wood and keep it dry. I think you made the right choice going propane. Propane fills at Costco are $20 for a 30 lb tank. I rotate tanks at the cabin and bring one back for a fill at Costco. I thought about the 100lb tank BUT once it's filled, it's heavy and awkward to transport.
    Gas fitting is not that hard if you are handy...good with your hands, plumbing ect. On the other hand gas fitting parts are hard to obtain here in Canada. Half I had to buy from Amazon and some from Lowes.
    Maple syrup season is approaching if you have Maple trees on your property.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +1

      Looking forward to maple season! Ya, I get ours filled at a large fuel depot on the way. They fill any size tank. The 100lbers would need a dolly to wheel them around. The heavy weight deterred me but I may have to go to that.

  • @unclekato
    @unclekato 5 лет назад

    I have the same propane setup at my park model trailer ( I mentioned how I did it in your video on your install). I have a 100lb tank and usually have either a 30 or 20lb tank for the second one. I have forced air heat( obviously not off grid ). When I go out there in winter, I just get a fresh 20 and it lasts all weekend. Around here in NY it costs about $14. I think its better for me. No hauling in wood, stoking the fire at 3am or dealing with ashes. Its a no brainer instant heat.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Absolutely a great solution for you. Glad it's working out.

  • @jonsmith2513
    @jonsmith2513 2 месяца назад

    Do you have a video on annual maintenance? I have installed the Martin MDV8 & 20 but the owners manual is quite vague on maint instructions. A video would be great as your other videos are well done and appreciated. Thanx

  • @leonidaslantz5249
    @leonidaslantz5249 5 лет назад

    Great review, Jen. You and Doug Linkers YT channels are so interesting in the depth and variety of outdoor and wood craft subject matter!! Rock on!!

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +1

      So glad you really appreciate what I do. It means a lot!

  • @anewman1
    @anewman1 5 лет назад +1

    Hi, perhaps one of those fans that you put on wood stoves that work on heat electrolysis could work above the propane heater? Just a thought 😀
    P.S.
    Something very few know is that no heater drys out the air. It's just because the air temperature outside is too cold to hold much moisture. And of course some heat sources put off moisture such as wood.
    Thanks for listening!
    Cheers from Maryland 🍻
    Sincerely,
    -The Newmans

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      I'll definitely be looking into some type of fan.

  • @Fingerprintguy
    @Fingerprintguy 5 лет назад

    I use virtually the same heater but a little smaller. I have a 10 x 15 cabin and it works well. Kinda depends on how well insulated the space is and how cold it is outside.
    30-40 seconds doesn't sound like much but I understand. When you first get there and it's so cold waiting for the pilot to light seems like an eternity.
    I hadn't thought about staying there over the winter but my heater works so well I do overnights when ever I can. Rang in the New Year at the cabin this year thanks to my heater.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Ringing in the new year at the cabin is wonderful!

  • @dukegoodno585
    @dukegoodno585 Год назад

    Hi. I am 79 and have been heating with propane in a variety of devices since 1985. Your presentaion is very professional. The only comment I have is that your heater is mounter way to high on the wall. It is currently heating only the cabin air that is at the hight of the fire box.. I found that locating the unit as low as possible to the floor, or if possible lower, will make your living space a whole lot warmer. A question. How many days will a tank of propane that size last?

  • @m1n4olynn
    @m1n4olynn 4 года назад +1

    Jen, just installed my own 12,00 and 20,000 BTU Martin... lets see how they do this winter in NorthWestern Ontario.

  • @rparnaby3843
    @rparnaby3843 2 года назад

    I suggest that you put a tighter mesh over the exhaust whwn you are not there and leave a large reminder note to yourself tha it is installed when you leave so you know when you return to the cabin so it is not forgoten.

  • @leighmccauley9019
    @leighmccauley9019 5 лет назад +1

    I do love my wood stove but I have a bigger space for it. I thought to put one in the kitchen down the road when we're going to be up there full time to heat the rest of the cottage. We do have an oil furnise for heating but we only use it when we first get up there and first thing in the morning to heat up the walls. We don't mind the place cooler now and keep the heat at 15 in the night but when we are older we might want it warmer.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Ya, 15C at night is good. You can always add more blankets if necessary.

    • @leighmccauley9019
      @leighmccauley9019 5 лет назад

      @@TheWildYam yes I have a couple of blankets and a down duvet. So much snow here right now I can't get to my bird feeders or my trail Cam. The deer aren't coming around either. I need to get the snow shoes out

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      @@leighmccauley9019 Yes, it has been a snowy cold Winter. Several feet on the ground here.

    • @leighmccauley9019
      @leighmccauley9019 5 лет назад

      @@TheWildYam we got two feet of snow last week. Theres snow up to my hip at least going out to the feeders because its drifting there.

  • @anonz975
    @anonz975 7 месяцев назад

    Very helpful! Thank you!

  • @gonagain
    @gonagain 5 лет назад

    I think you did well with that stove. I remember that you didn't have room for a full size wood burner anyway. Looks good.

  • @wallaceviviansadventures2095
    @wallaceviviansadventures2095 5 лет назад

    thanks for the review. 3 hours isn't to bad my cabin takes that long or better to worm up with a wood stove.have a great week.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Ok, good to know! Thanks Wallace.

  • @gomezadams9900
    @gomezadams9900 3 года назад

    Maybe I've been mis-informed about propane but I was told that off gases of propane are carbon dioxide not monoxide which is why greenhouse growers prefer this type of heating because its beneficial to the plants.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  3 года назад +2

      You can get carbon monoxide with not enough oxygen to burn the propane completely. This is where the danger lies.

  • @van111111111
    @van111111111 4 года назад +3

    Great video, thanks for putting all the info out there. I've got a question though; during the coldest times, did the 40 pound propane tank ever cause issues? Apparently tank size has a huge impact on available output.. I would've though a heater would need 100lbs plus tanks to work in -30C°.
    Nice cabin btw 🤘

    • @paulmaxwell8851
      @paulmaxwell8851 3 года назад +2

      Tank size has more to do with the available Btu/hr. A small load like this (20,000 Btu/hr) would be fine whereas a large load like a furnace (maybe 100,000 Btu/hr or more) would require a much larger tank. Propane does not vaporize well at cold temperatures.

  • @jeremyphipps777
    @jeremyphipps777 4 года назад

    Obviously speaking without having seen the heater in person, but I would think if you point the fan into the upper radiator, not only will it spread the heat around the cabin faster, but it should also drive the thermal efficiency of the unit well into the 90%s by extracting more of the heat before it blows through the exhaust vent.

  • @raymondclair202
    @raymondclair202 5 лет назад +2

    As always..good videos..good info

  • @alexs3447
    @alexs3447 5 лет назад

    problem with many woodstoves is they burn out during the night. So its either get up during the night to reload it or wake up to a cold cabin. The propane heater avoids all this hassle. If the cabin doesn't have the space ,then it doesn't need the higher btu's of a woodstove. Modern codes ,now require a ventilation system for a woodstove. Adds quite a bit to install costs. Would be ridiculous if required for that small cabin .

  • @murrat
    @murrat Год назад

    Thanks for this review. I was considering a Martin for a backup heater and I have changed my mind now after your review. I'm planning to go with a Blaze King Princess 32 (wood) as a primary winter heater and a Senville arctic heat pump for spring/fall cooler days and backup heater when we are away. We are on the grid.

  • @kenputer56
    @kenputer56 5 лет назад

    Great heat source , the vent has the downward slope is so the condensation from the LPG which is acidic runs to the outside and not back in to the unit.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +1

      I think I have the angle right. I ended up verifying it with a small level. Seems to be ok. Just a subtle slope helps.

  • @john3559
    @john3559 4 года назад +1

    great job kiddo, you should be a spokesmen for martin. lol love you deep blue eyes.

  • @medtech1a
    @medtech1a 5 лет назад +1

    I love the propane heater but i think you should have some kind of backup because you can run out of propane easily if you get a major snowstorm.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Great idea. We have the kerosene heater still as back up and a 20L pail full of kerosene.

  • @AdamCraigOutdoors
    @AdamCraigOutdoors 5 лет назад

    3hrs really isn't bad. Generally you can turn the heater on and then go on bring in gear, shovelling, putting stuff away etc. and that takes some time. I might look into something like this for my house as another way to warm up the one side of the house opp. the wood stove.
    I like it!!

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      It is a good option. I like that I can turn it on and not worry. We would be paranoid about the kerosene heater and turn it off if we went for a hike. I was so afraid it would burn the cabin down.

    • @lifebelowzeroak
      @lifebelowzeroak 7 месяцев назад

      Have you left your cabin for like 8 hours with it on? ​@@TheWildYam

  • @DarrenCharron
    @DarrenCharron 5 лет назад

    That sure is a nice unit I have looked into getting one for my little wood shop it's 12 x 16 I think that model might do the trick. I also looked into the micro wood stoves and I have decided that is not the way I want to heat the shed. I do however heat the house with the wood stove and I also have electric heat.

  • @The-Best398
    @The-Best398 2 года назад

    thank you! Great video. I learned a lot!

  • @michaelhudecek2778
    @michaelhudecek2778 4 года назад

    Thank you for another great informative video!

  • @vipleather
    @vipleather 3 года назад

    Wasps and spiders are eyeballing that vent. Nice cozy warm home.

  • @terryw.milburn8565
    @terryw.milburn8565 5 лет назад

    Hay, Jen Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the New Heat Source. Be Well, Friend ! ATB T God Bless

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Will do Terry! Hope you are doing well this chilly Winter.

  • @henryrodgers3409
    @henryrodgers3409 5 лет назад

    Nice video . I remember when you installed that heater , Oh oh , cutting a hole in the wall . LOL . Lighting up my fridge in the RV when I bring it home in the spring I need to purge the line a few seconds . No big deal . Just like your propane heater . A wood stove in your cabin would take up a lot of room . You made the right choice in getting that heater . Just make sure your tanks are full . LOL . Propane is cheap. I get my tanks filled at Costco and I only pay how much propane is used to fill the tank. None of this paying for a full tank when you're filling a partial tank like so many places charge .

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +1

      Yes, we get ours filled for as much propane as we want. No exchange of tanks which gets pricy.

  • @brmelectric
    @brmelectric 8 месяцев назад

    Hi. Great information, i have a question regarding overall heating. How long would your cabin heat up from 32° to 65°. I have a small insulated workshop 12x20 i would like to heat. Not in there all the time, and this is why im wondering about heat time

  • @goosehunter4845
    @goosehunter4845 5 лет назад

    Nice Review on The heater JEN i like this heater as i said before of course it cost money to set up and run but so do almost every kind of heater or stove, even wood burning cost some money, have a good week as well,

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Ya, I'm happy with it. Thanks Edward.

  • @dillydilly7285
    @dillydilly7285 3 года назад +1

    I'm looking into the same unit you have was just wondering how long your 40lb tanks last

  • @djsavage2421
    @djsavage2421 3 года назад

    Thank you for the insight on this product the only problem is you negated to disclose that the unit behind your head is well over $1000 I could buy a wall furnace for under $200

    • @paulmaxwell8851
      @paulmaxwell8851 3 года назад

      Yes, but the wall furnace you're looking at is dumping the exhaust gasses into your living space. Legal but incredibly stupid. Sure, it's far cheaper than a quality unit like the Martin, but do you really want to go that route?
      I was quoted C$1,499 here in central B.C. That's complete with the installation kit (intake and exhaust). A free-standing propane heater (looks like a wood stove) starts at about C$3,000.

  • @timshull59
    @timshull59 2 года назад

    Nice looking heater thinking of adding a couple to my home. I didn't think CSST flex pipe is approved for outdoors?

  • @ricks7432
    @ricks7432 4 года назад +1

    Great video. Just wanted a bit of advice. I have a insulated 12 x 20 Amish guest cabin with a additional 4' loft which goes over the front porch making that part 24'. Probably pretty close square foot wise to to yours' except my loft is smaller. So I am looking up the 11,000 BTU or the 20,000 BTU ? The 11,000 says it is good for 325 square foot. The cabin is in northern Michigan which has similar temp maybe a little warmer. I was thinking better to go bigger. There is about a $250 difference between the two. I guess the smaller one was more attractive because of the smaller size. Any advice from anyone would be appreciated. Thanks.

  • @cathylynnpietranton
    @cathylynnpietranton 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Jen thank you for the review on the propane heater the pros and cons. I have a question do you get a lot of condensation in your tiny cabin using the propane heater?

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +2

      No, it is direct vented. Any humidity you see in the cabin is a result of breathing or from the wood of the cabin unthawing. The air is quite moist in the woods around the cabin. WHen it all freezes, the humidity is low. As the cabin unthaws, it gets more humid. It is much better than the kero heater that would pump out lots of water as a product of combustion.

  • @abbaby555
    @abbaby555 3 года назад

    Awesome, not much for any moving parts to fail.
    Love the simplicity 👍
    Are these ok to install in a house, like up to code it just for use in a cabin type of thing?

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  3 года назад

      For house, garage, anything really.

  • @mattholton9427
    @mattholton9427 9 месяцев назад

    I have a one year old Martin Heater. When turning it on for the first time this fall, it's having issues. We can get it started, but when we try to turn it anything higher than the lowest setting, the gas slowly flames out. It seems like its not getting enough gas? Besmer (Martin) said 99% of the time its a pressure issue. It's at a semi remote location, so getting help has been tough, but had a technician out this evening. They tested the pressure and said it was fine. He indicated they think its a pressure valve thats not opening enough. I'm not sure if he has a lot of experience with them? Anyone else with this heater run into this issue have any ideas?

  • @chrisE815
    @chrisE815 Год назад

    Great review on the heater. Are you sure you're correct on the BTU output being the nameplate btus* efficency? Typically btu ratings the btu output of the heater.

    • @Progrocker70
      @Progrocker70 11 месяцев назад

      I was thinking that. You either have to look at the actual "BTU output" or use the listed efficiency percentage to see what the actual heat output is. I was looking at the ratings of some Williams and Empire direct vent heaters and was surprised at the low efficiency. One was only 70% efficient, meaning a 30K BTU heater was only putting out 20K. That's a big loss.

  • @DBassAngler
    @DBassAngler 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Where are you from? Im from Quebec and i can only built a 20 square meters cabin on my land of 50 acres because my road is not public. I will start builting it this spring. Sorry if my english is not perfect im french canadian .

    • @Feedback4Utoday
      @Feedback4Utoday 5 лет назад +2

      Nice we collect tax $ to pay people to tell u what u can build on your land. 50 acres of land is
      large - By keeping your cottage below 10'x20' helps the govt people to have a job & to know u r not living 'too well'. Otherwise they could be jealous that they could charge u more tax $ for them to spend in the City.

  • @robertgrist8496
    @robertgrist8496 5 лет назад

    Would have been nice if your installer used steel line closer to the ground instead of the yellow along the wall. You can always change that later adding more gas appliances and grills, etc.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      I may add a fridge at some point.

  • @MelodyStalians
    @MelodyStalians 2 года назад

    Does Canada allow csst to be used outdoors. That stuff need to to be bonded to the panel box in the USA.. if not that plumber needs to give you your money back

  • @Oz-ov1uu
    @Oz-ov1uu 3 года назад

    Natural gas furnace yes but fireplace it will still be only 80%, same as propane. Non condensing you can't get higher without an inducer

  • @eddygoodwin7089
    @eddygoodwin7089 3 года назад

    Thanks for all the info on this I have been looking at this type of heater for about 8 years but there’s not very many in depth reviews. Williams makes an in floor propane heater that I think would be nice because you could stand over it to get warmed up and it doesn’t take up any room. If anyone knows of these in floor heaters and if there any good I would like to know what there thoughts are on it.

  • @carolinegray3150
    @carolinegray3150 5 лет назад

    Look at that deep snow

  • @TinaMBaudon
    @TinaMBaudon 2 года назад +1

    Hello again! I'm curious if you have been getting a 'gassy smell' when the unit is off, but the pilot is on?
    I've had mine installed for a year now, and everything was great for the first half of the winter, then the odor started to fill the space when not in use. Haven't yet figured out why. Hoping this year is better ;)

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  2 года назад +1

      Hi, this indicates a propane leak probably at the pilot or where the gas line connects to the unit (or elsewhere) and is very dangerous. Please cut off the supply to the unit and contact your local gas technician to inspect the unit.

    • @TinaMBaudon
      @TinaMBaudon 2 года назад

      @@TheWildYam thank you so much. The unit has been OFF for months, and the gasfitter will be coming back to set it back up. Might be calling a different one now, since he had no idea why it would be smelling... ;)

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  2 года назад +2

      I had a minuscule one at the pilot. Soap test showed a leak almost out of sightline. But enough to get a bad smell. Fixed now but my plan is to replace a few worn parts for this Winter. Bismar is sending them at no charge.

    • @TinaMBaudon
      @TinaMBaudon 2 года назад

      @@TheWildYam Thank you, that is great to know. I have a gasfitter coming to take a look at it next week, so I will be sure to pass your info along :D

    • @AbrahamNeuwelt
      @AbrahamNeuwelt 2 года назад

      I smelled propane also and finally found the leak was on the factory flare fitting (not where I connected the gas). It’s fixed now but based on Wild Yam’s post below makes me think it needs to be monitored often? Hmm…

  • @vropp02
    @vropp02 3 года назад +1

    Just wondering if you have any regrets installing the unit so high off the ground? This is something I want to do (only logical space for me to place it) but some people have questioned me on this as heat rises..

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  3 года назад

      No. The cabin heats up the same.

  • @jdram58
    @jdram58 8 месяцев назад

    Its vented I like that I havwe a buddy heater not a good backup stove unless maybe your ice fishing or something in a small fishhouse

  • @johnhubble5373
    @johnhubble5373 Год назад

    Add a metal (aluminum ) screen in summer. Use a piece of elastic bungee chord. Now it can breath and be bug / variant free. : j Just remove it before use.

  • @denden760
    @denden760 Год назад

    I just looked up reviews on this heater by owners of them and they only got a 50/50 approval by them!

  • @maryberon4193
    @maryberon4193 5 лет назад

    Hi, Jen
    Do you get much condensation in the cabin with that heater?
    Also, what type of flooring do you have? I was told wood or even fake wood would not be good if you don't hear your space in the winter.
    Love your channel!

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +2

      No condensation from the heater since it is direct vented. The humidity you see is from moisture in the air before the cabin froze after we left the last time (it is damp in there in the Summer and Fall because it is in the woods) and from breathing. We would get terrible condensation from the kerosene heater as it would pump quite a lot of moisture in the air as a product of combustion.

  • @johnhubble5373
    @johnhubble5373 Год назад

    ⛔️ Kind of Vague ⚠️ “Unit cost a lot,” “Install costs a lot.” “Uses a lot when It’s cold” No offense intended but can you elaborate a little more ? Great info / great video. Thnx,,, : j

  • @deannaparker8461
    @deannaparker8461 2 года назад

    Have you had any issues with this unit? I can't turn mine on above low/medium before the unit shuts off. The manufacturer's customer service is terrible and unhelpful.

  • @super70seven
    @super70seven Год назад

    Are there any cons with this heater that would prevent you from buying it again? I am looking at this one for my garage. Thanks

  • @TinaMBaudon
    @TinaMBaudon 5 лет назад

    Great video, thanks:) What kind of fan did you have at the end of this... how is it powered?

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +1

      Batteries. Thanks for watching.

  • @mikedee6173
    @mikedee6173 5 лет назад +1

    What is that bird call on opening? Very pretty.

  • @contentment164
    @contentment164 5 лет назад

    Looks like a nice heater!

  • @trevorpitts7401
    @trevorpitts7401 3 года назад

    Can this just stay on the whole time you are away? Does it require electricity to turn on and off?

  • @rollie3383
    @rollie3383 4 года назад

    I am wanting one for my truck camper for skiing season would you say its good?

  • @user-jd5rb5rq8d
    @user-jd5rb5rq8d 10 месяцев назад

    do you ever keep this running for multiple days in a row? non stop?

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  10 месяцев назад

      Yes. Works great. Thermostat built into the machine turns the main burner off and on.

  • @leog6742
    @leog6742 4 года назад

    I like it, but its hard to find the natural gas model :/

  • @tracyk3567
    @tracyk3567 3 года назад

    Just wondering if you can hear the gas when you are pushing the button to light the pilot? Mine is making no gas noise.

  • @2498greg
    @2498greg 5 лет назад

    Great video 👍

  • @katieh3236
    @katieh3236 3 года назад

    How hot is the plastic getting
    I watched and someone said they get really hot for pets and kids

  • @katieh3236
    @katieh3236 3 года назад

    I'm chemical sensitive
    Is the beige a cheap painted plastic?

  • @daleswier8429
    @daleswier8429 5 лет назад

    Nice review, Jen. Thanks for that. How outs it be if the heater were left on at oboit 5°-10° C (40°-50° F) while you’re away during the work week? Do you feel it would be a feasible strategy? Or would it require large amounts of propane?

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      It is never left on when we are away. It would use a fair bit of propane when it is very cold.

  • @judichristopher4604
    @judichristopher4604 2 года назад +1

    WOW!!!!
    That is expensive!!!
    $1200. and that is the Sale Price!!!

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  2 года назад

      Yes, quite pricey. Wood stoves are too

  • @patonmayne
    @patonmayne 2 года назад

    How much?

  • @duckpond-studio
    @duckpond-studio 2 года назад

    excellent!

  • @avlisk
    @avlisk 2 года назад

    HELP! I have a 400 sq ft cabin, but only need to heat the 12' X 10' living room during the day. Any excess heat could filter down the hall, around the corner, and into the bedroom, I suppose. Would this unit be too much? They make a smaller one at 11,000 BTU, would that one be better? Your help is appreciated.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  2 года назад

      It should be OK. Just won't turn on as often

    • @avlisk
      @avlisk 2 года назад

      @@TheWildYam I just took delivery on the same unit you have. Reading instructions twice. Hesitating on cutting that HUGE hole! Since you seem to be OK with it high off the floor, I'm putting the bottom of the unit at 28" to keep it away from the puppy.

  • @InappropriateShorts
    @InappropriateShorts 7 месяцев назад

    why mention expense and not say the price AT ALL? Youre putting this video out to the planet & a baseline or even a record of what it costs you, in your area at the particular time would have been more helpful.

  • @leslieross7555
    @leslieross7555 5 лет назад

    Nice. What's the install cost? ballpark please. I see that the heater is $1,000.00 on Amazon ...

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Free to install as we did it ourself. The gas technician price is regional and based on how far they have to drive from a nearby town.

  • @phyllismulkey3778
    @phyllismulkey3778 5 лет назад

    i like the propane heaters

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      They are nice. They look good and do the job.

  • @mzeeraza3516
    @mzeeraza3516 5 лет назад

    Awesome 👍🏾

  • @carolinegray3150
    @carolinegray3150 5 лет назад

    Nice heater

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      Glad you like the heater too. The snow is pretty deep. Another foot or so fell this week!

  • @Sam-w9des
    @Sam-w9des 3 года назад

    how long does that 40lb tank last?

    • @paulmaxwell8851
      @paulmaxwell8851 3 года назад +1

      Terrific video, Jen!
      Propane delivers 21,550 Btu per pound. This unit consumes 20,000 Btu/hr or about 0.93 lb per hour, at full tilt. You could empty a tank pretty quickly if you were heating a large space, or using it day and night. In my opinion, it's best for a small space or back-up to another source of heat.
      I'm installing this very unit in my super-insulated off-grid home (British Columbia) as back-up for my woodstove. I'll only turn it on when I'm leaving for the day, after first warming the house up with wood. I won't be burning much propane to simply maintain a comfortable temperature. And no power required! As I mentioned above, I was quoted C$1,499 by my local dealer. I think that's pretty reasonable. Made in Quebec by the Bismar Company.

  • @arturzorka5419
    @arturzorka5419 4 года назад

    Wooden wall isn't heating to much?

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  4 года назад

      No, it is meant to be this close to the wall

  • @blackriverrambler3963
    @blackriverrambler3963 5 лет назад

    Nice system. Quick and clean.
    Less time chopping wood so there’s more time to enjoy foraging for wild edibles!! Lol
    😉👍

  • @orscrub3161
    @orscrub3161 5 лет назад

    stupid question.......why only one heater? why not one on the opposite wall also? 🤔

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад +1

      That would be too many BTUs of heat for the cabin. Also, it would cost too much money (unit, gas install, propane costs). Check out this BTU calculator to figure out how many BTUs one needs: www.calculator.net/btu-calculator.html

    • @orscrub3161
      @orscrub3161 5 лет назад

      TheWildYam............gotcha! told you it was a stupid question! 🤪

    • @zefallafez
      @zefallafez 5 лет назад

      If you wanted to heat the cabin faster you could mount a second heater opposite the window and use the same tanks? Split the line where it feeds into the heater? Or just use your kerosene heater to quicken the heating.

    • @TheWildYam
      @TheWildYam  5 лет назад

      @@zefallafez No, this set up is fine. The kero heater is so smelly.