Two nights ago a girl was telling me "You know soy production is HORRIBLE for the environment?" All I could say was, it's definitely nowhere near as horrible as producing livestock is...but this is an even better response! Thank you so much for your videos!
Tell your mother that only 15% of plant protein is converted into edible animal protein, so if we ate the soya directly, instead of feeding it to animals, we'd have more than 6 times more protein available. Source: mosameat.eu/faq.html
Love all of the stuff you've put out this month. You're arguments help me explain everything so much better but it's still hard to get people to listen
prolly because when you try to morally grandstand people on every aspect of their life, from what to drive, how to vote, and what to eat they start tuning your condescending ass out
@@jackevans7665 You're talking about soybean meal, which can be used to make soy flour and tvp. People can eat soybean meal just fine, they just don't usually choose to. They can't eat the hulls though, only ruminates can, so it has to be dehulled. Hulls are about 8% of soybean meal, so say Google.
@@platoschauvet animals only eat 8% of the 30% of whole bean thats edible for humans. Alot of the soy plant is either inedible or is processed down until its inedible, that's why its given to animals. You think about it, after the soy bean has been processed to remove the oil, that bean becomes very low in nutrients, rather waste it by throwing it into much heaps, its more effective to simple give it to animals.
@@jackevans7665 It's still perfectly edible. Humans can't only eat whole soybeans. Soybean meal is eaten every day by humans all over the world. It's the second ingredient in an impossible burger. It's simply soybean protein and carbs without the oil. And even if you did assume this faulty premise as true, you could still just grow the soy, not process it for oil, and then consume it as a whole bean product directly instead. It could be true that something about the way it's often processed makes it unideal for human consumption (I honestly don't know, but it would make sense, in trying to make it as efficient as possible, less concern about cleanliness etc), but soybean meal, in and of itself, as co-product in the creation of soybean oil, isn't inedible to humans (save for that 8% that is the hulls). The whole soy debate is so irrelevant considering that most of what a cow eats isn't soy anyway. Yes, most of the soy is grown for animal consumption along with oil, but at least half of what a cow eats is grass and other things we legitimately can't eat.
@@platoschauvet I'm not saying the raw bean itself is I edible, clearly since we use it in alot of products, I'm saying that after it's been processed, it's inedible because the nutrients have been taken out of it for use in other products. Herbivore animals such as cows and sheep benefit more from it since they can process more nutrients from it, since their body is designed for it, humans arnt designed like a herbiove is.
I really hope you still read these comments Ed! I think it would be important to note that a lot of these statistics are muddled up from place to place. Boy would I love to outright state that 85% of soy is used for animal feed since this would put meat eaters at bay for this argument, but it just isn't that simple... Take the UK for example. Richard Young, Policy Director for the SFT states that in 2015/16, we imported 3.1 million tonnes of soybeans of which 35% was used for animal feed. 45% of it was used for human food products leaving 18% for non food products and the rest as misc. One may still argue that this is a substantial figure but on the other hand, the UK clearly doesn't used as much soy in animal feed as somewhere like the US. From a world perspective, FAO has a great platform for agricultural statistics (FAOstat) that Gunnar Rundgren analysed and found that we globally produce 270 million tonnes of soybeans (from my own findings up to 350 million in 2017) of which approx 77% is used for animal feed. It would be interesting to see what you think of this Ed! I for one think it doesn't at all reduce the argument from the vegan side as globally, the over farming of soy is clearly due to the demand from the animal farming industry but nonetheless, I think it's important to know the ins and outs of the statistics that world organisations quote!
I remember years ago when I was a vegetarian two of my ex bf's housemates having a go at me in the kitchen with this argument I didn't have an answer then and just shouted Fuck Off! and walked out, at least I now know.
Thanks for this video. I'm myself a non-vegan (yeah a meat eater), and have used that argument myself quite often to be honest. I am glad I saw this video! I cannot promise that I will chance my entire diet after this 3 min video but what I can say is that go look for scientific articles about this and some background check, and who knows, maybe my next burger will be an entirely plant-based one. My roomies are vegan and I must say, the fake chicken comes veryyy close to actual chicken!
@@stevenlindhorst7579 I’m saying it’s unnecessary to feed them soy. Grass grows much faster with less space, water and resources to use. The soy fed to livestock is also unfit for human consumption. Only reason soy is fed to livestock is to fatten them up but it’s worth noting that soybean meal is a just a byproduct of the manufacturing of soy products like soy bean oil etc.
What we need to do is stop using so many pesticides on our crops it’s one of the major factors contributing to the decline of bees. Trust me if bees die out things aren’t going to be pretty
I'm so happy that you have touched upon this. I'll be sharing this with everyone I know. Why do manufacturers feel it's okay to put soya in practically everything anyway?? They don't care about us people, but we can't control that.. we have to care about ourselves, that we can control 💙
Thanks for this video. I didn't know any of this. I had heard soy farming was bad for the environment, but I just love my tofu so much. now I don't have to give it up. :)
60 percent of processed foods in the UK contain Soya oil. It’s great that livestock can make good use of the left over product, from Processing the whole beans into Soya oil
I would love an answer to this. My friend got super angry at me calling me a hypocrite. Because we say its wrong to eat fish. (his argument was he only eats a little bit of fish) So why can we (vegans) point the finger at him and say he is bad for only eating a little fish. When soy farming is destroying the environment. And I said but most of it is fed to animals. But his arguement was that its ok for vegans to have a little bit of soy. But not non vegans to have a little bit of fish. Whats the response?
Honey is basically bee vomit, is it not? Ergo, a secretion from an animal just like milk. Bees should be left alone like the rest of the animals and do their pollinating as they do in nature, buzzing around on a summers day... It a delicate balance, is our ecosystem 😊
of course the products of trafficked, enslaved bees are NOT vegan & that's the reality of almost all pollination in the world today! 200 billion bees in the US alone are currently enslaved & part of the bee trafficking industry, having their hives emptied of food every few weeks so the hives can be made to work harder & easily lifted onto trucks for transport to the next "vegan" crop. 100 billion bees a year are tortured to death through this process! Bees making speciality honeys like manuka, that do NOT get trafficked around their country, see losses of only 10-20% of their hive per year, v the 50% for the bees pollinating your "vegan" crops. Pretty dam obvious which one is the most enslaved, deadly & cruel isn't it! Bees are geo-sensitive! trafficking them from one mono-crop to the next every few weeks is as cruel as you can get!
I think the video was amazing but it would've been interesting for you to point out the ratio of soy consumed by animals in animal farming / net amount of meat produced. If I'm not mistaken it's somewhere around 12-17kg of soy for 1kg of beef? Correct me if I'm wrong Ed!
You should also point out that the herbicides which are used for GMO soy not only have an impact on the environment but especially on the people living nearby. Causing cancer, birth defects and other things. Which doensn't mean that vegans are bad people because "they eat GMO soy products all the time". GMO products must be labeled, even if they use it only as an ingredient, at least in Europe. No idea which laws apply to other parts of the world. ?? I wonder what a non vegan would have to say in front of one of those deformed kids.
and when we all eat soja, do you think the actual production will be enought? I think the agriculture probleme will stay the same with the amount needed to feed all human with soja.
The same argument goes for meat and dairy production by the way: it's not sustainable for all humans on this planet. It has not even been sustainable for the last decades, we just did not want to notice. And we don't have to feed all humans with soya if this really were to become a problem, we could shift to something else. If that was not possible either, we'd be at the end of the road anyway, as feeding farm animals requires a lot more plant protein than directly consuming the plants ourselves. I doubt that it will become a problem though, because it is estimated that 75% of the land used in agriculture would be freed if we stopped animal farming. (Late reply, but still. ;)
Thanks for the insightful video! Just to be clear, I am currently pescatarian (slowly turning into vegetarian). I am also deeply concerned about whats happening to the environment now and have one question for you. You address the problem of soya, using a lot of arable land, destroying habitats and ecosystems. A product which is mostly farmed for animal food. I get it. But when all of us, humans, switch to veganism, we will have to replace all the calories that we received from meat or dairy, from plants, right? But is it anywhere, calculable, available to know, how much plant-based food would be needed to feed our entire population if everyone were to become vegan? How much land would have to be exploited in order to feed us? Make note, that our population is still rapidly growing, even now not all of sapiens are fed well, and also whatever agriculture business is done on arable land (animal or plant) - it becomes less fertile over time until it fully degrades. According to WWF we have lost 50% of our topsoil, which allows us to grow anything in the past 150 years. It doesn't apply only to animals - even now some plant based products (apart from soy), are very aggressive - avocado or palm oil industries are causing massive commotions in the environment - erasing large areas for the industries to thrive. So how can we assure out future generations that land won't be more over-exploited than it is now? Soil doesn't care if it's an animal or a plant, if used for mass production, for instant profit - it will get degraded really fast. UN-studies have shown that approx. 24 billion tonnes of soil is being degraded because of intensive farming. Obviously, economic or any other 'growth' won't stop unless the system changes. And both the government and businesses perpetuate that growth cycle. Until now I haven't come up with any solution on how to stop that growth mania. So knowing growth will require more and more from the resources to feed a constantly multiplying race of us - and knowing that this can lead to a very dangerous soil degradation that won't allow us to have ANY food (since animals run on plants too) - what can we do? In the end, as far as I argue in the sustainability matter - it doesn't matter if the race will be fully or quarterly vegan, in the end, if current system keeps on thriving, environmental sustainability won't be reached. At least, that's my take on it now. What do you think? Just to underline again - I am not against veganism. I have a goal to become one myself too. I just take gradual steps, since diet changing makes my stomach goes ridonculous and it is not a pleasurable experience. But I am also deeply concerned about the environment, and how change is good. But a long-term thought-out plan is even better. I don't want my grandchildren to be stuck in another 'climate' situation like we are right now (just instead of global warming, it would be how to make soil fertile again without starving?). If you have any thoughts on this, I would love to hear you out!
Please can you do a video about how you can have a sustainable vegan lifestyle in the UK?? I’m not sure you can have a balanced vegan diet if you were only to rely on local organic produce (which is arguably the only #crueltyfree option)! I’ve been vegan for 5 years. I buy my walnuts in plastic bags that come from China. I buy b12 capsules in plastic bottles. I can’t afford organic so I eat frozen, plastic wrapped veg. I sometimes buy almond milk, probably from California. Bee’s are used to pollinate my avocados and almonds (the decline of which can be attributed to harmful pesticide use), pesticides cover the veg crops I buy from, influencing cancer rates in farmers hundreds and thousands of miles away from me. Instead of leather I wear plastic. Instead of wool I wear polyester. All of this goes into landfill and water systems. I am actively harming all living beings as a result of my consumption AS A VEGAN! 😭I know it might seem OTT but isn’t that what vegans are accused of being? “Too extreme”? If it’s about compassion, sustainability and health, I’m having serious doubts about how veganism can viably contribute. Am leaning more towards local, organic, very minimal AP consumption that is grass-fed, for example. Help!!! 😅😅 am having a vegan identity crisis and need your input please!!
Does the UN still say that going vegan is vital to avoiding the worst effect of climate change/animal agriculture is a leading cause of climate change? I can't find any reports made by the UN that says this, I can only find articles saying that the UN said it.
Great video Ed. For those who want more proof of this (or a handy link to refute non-vegan claims), check this USDA report from 2015 that states, "Just over 70 percent of the soybeans grown in the United States are used for animal feed, with poultry being the number one livestock sector consuming soybeans, followed by hogs, dairy, beef and aquaculture". www.usda.gov/sites/default/files/documents/coexistence-soybeans-factsheet.pdf
As usual the key is better farming, not to stop farming. The technology and methodology to grow enough food for a rich diet of both meat and plants can be developed so that we can maintain a healthy and delicious diet of BOTH food types. It is not necessary to stop animal or plant farming. We only need better methods. It also turns out that climate change can help,with this by making more land at the hemispheric frontiers arable. For example, new techniques are being developed to grow food in permafrost regions. Previously unthinkable. This could allow for a quantum leap in food output. We don’t need and should not want veganism. The key is technology and innovation for profit. That is how you expand the food supply. Not by limiting the human diet to unnatural plant-only formulations.
My moms the best cook in thr family im middle eastern and muslim and im very disconnected to them but the only Thing that keeps me slightly connected is my moms food and if i couldnt eat her food id feel like im missing out bc one day she wont be around ya know ? Sorry if thats selfish im working on it
Switching between data and studies and global zones .🤔 Love the clip of cows eating corn in the middle of cornfields thats sustainable instead of corn shipped to UK
Sharon Dunne its a study you can look up online where they showed that plants felt some type of panic/emotions. Someone used this in an argument with me yesterday I still held my own bu would like to hear Ed’s take on it
Astro so I looked into this before. I think backster himself said something about the plants wanting to be a part of us. I'm not sure how he got to that conclusion. On a side note, I'm attending a master's program on herbalism. There is something called xenohormesis. This is when a plant creates a metabolite to protect itself from it's environment and you consume it causing you to benefit from it. Those metabolites can be smell, toxic phytochemicals, thicker skin, etc... This in a way makes me think there is an obvious level of intelligence coming from the plant, to even produce the chemical and know that it's working. At the same time I think that just like they make adjustments to repel, they also make adjustments to attract. Like color, taste, smell, etc... So if a plant also has this intelligence, it knowingly is calling to be eaten. Just my theory.
What if everyone cut their meat consumption by 80%? We would have gone a far way and the stakelovers can have their magical-reason-to-live-steak two times per month and be happy while the industry will have to adapt to a more sustainable method mith more focus on plants :)
I know its easy to get defensive, but this is misleading. 85% of soy grown in the world is crushed for soybean oil. 98% of that leftover soy product is then given to livestock. Soybean oil makes much more money than soy does as feed, but it allows farmers to sell the byproduct and make money off of the whole crop, even though animals really should just be grass fed anyways. 6% is used in direct human consumption. The rest is used for fuel.
@@rattus8112 I don't consume any soy products at all. Directly or indirectly. Why would anyone consume a food that skews your hormones - unless you're a post menopausal woman?
Vecause not everyone likes soy. And humans consyme way less food than animals and already we are feeding billions of animals.that land will be relased.
Pretty twisted logic there. Only a small amount of a soy plant is edible for human consumption, funny enough about 70% of a soy plant is a by-product. And only a small percentage of the beans is for animal consumption. In truth if we didn't have animals eating the byproduct, not only would it make no difference to the amazon, but we'd also have a massive amount of food waste. In conclusion, 70% of soy production is a byproduct and is fed to animals.
HEY EVERYONE THERE IS A CHANNEL NAMED THE RED PILL PHILOSOPHY HE IS TRYING TO SPEAK UP FOR VEGANS, BUT HIS VIEWERS ARE MOSTLY CRAZY ALT RIGHT MEAT EATERS , SO HE IS GETTING A LOT OF HATE ON HIS CHANNEL WE SHOULD SHOW HIM SOME SUPPORT!!!! WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEN WITH HIS POLITICAL VIEWS SUPPORTING VEGANISM! REPLY
Hey Ed. I dont know if youll read this but I hope u could. I went vegan last summer (2017) and its obviously the best thing one can do. Now my problem is that I dont like anyone that isnt vegan anymore. I see them as monsters, people that enjoy raping and murdering, because thats what they do. They use products of rape on their cakes that they celebrate their kids birthday, and they all laugh and enjoy, like monsters. Do you know how to deal with this? Is there even a way? I would like to be able to be friends with non vegans but I cant because all I see is what they are doing to the world and all animals except the human specie. :(
Honestly, you need to think about the good in them and understand that it is not their fault that they are ignorant. They either don't know or aren't ready to make the commitment of veganism. Being friends with meat eaters has actually been a good thing. We discuss on the topic and I give facts about the lifestyle of being a vegetarian. 2 people I talked to have become a vegetarian.
I deal with this too (albeit in a much less intense way) and I think it definitely gets easier the longer you’ve been vegan, give yourself another few months and you’ll probably grow accustomed to being calm around non veggies. I still often find myself looking at people I really respect though - my doctors and teachers etc- and think, ‘they’re so smart, how are they not vegan?’ and I console myself by thinking, ‘it’s just a matter of time. They’ll realise what they’re doing wrong some day.’
Well as non vegan its already clearly i dont care about the environment as I believe will eat from everything with moderation or as i think its healthy for me as , so why should i look for what contain soybeans!? Its supposed to be Your part to explain and try to convince me or win the argument, but to shift the blame on non vegan as answer just because we challenge you , you use your laptop which run by electricity which need fussel fuel so thats effect the environment now you will say : but you use it as well so why did you challenged me ( thats the kind of arguments u have ) , oh btw consumption of soy beans milk had been linked to high estrogen in men 👌 its great source of nutrition 🤣,
soy maybe good for women but not for men for example Burger King Soy Burger Grows Bewbs On Dudes 18 million time more estrogen then a regular beef burger soy milk has more estrogen then regular milk so no, as for me give me the beef.
You know what grows man boobs? Being fat. You know what makes most men fat? Eating animal products. Here are some sources about estrogen: nutritionfacts.org/video/estrogen-in-meat-dairy-and-eggs/ nutritionfacts.org/video/dairy-estrogen-and-male-fertility/ nutritionfacts.org/2016/09/13/estrogen-animal-products/ nutritionfacts.org/2016/06/16/dietary-estrogens-male-fertility/ You know what else meat causes? Erectile dysfunction.
@@suicune2001 soy is used for animal feed so yes your party right, but it's still soy, and wheat, wheat is in every food one way or another look it up,
@@latinmike7 What evidence do you have that soy in of itself somehow has more estrogen then milk from a pregnant cow? The body doesn't get confused that plant estrogen is not human estrogen and filters it out easily. Cow estrogen is close enough to human estrogen that the body thinks its our estrogen and uses it. Thus, men will have lower testosterone and sperm count when they drink cow milk. And I eat whole foods so I know when I'm eating wheat.
@@suicune2001 first of all the beef you buy at the stores are not female pregnant cows they are bulls, the male cow, it would be stupid to kill a pregnant cow for food. the females are used to produce milk and bear offspring. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160803124441.htm A new study investigated cow milk's effects on blood hormone levels in adult mice and found that naturally occurring levels, and even levels as high as 100 times the average, had no effect on the mice. The study further determined that only when the mice were given 1,000 times more estrogen than average did it have any impact on reproductive health. www.bing.com/search?q=how+much+estrogen+is+in+one+cup+of+soy+milk&form=ANSPH1&refig=ece5ff7c149b45959dfc226658f34310&sp=2&qs=RI&pq=how+much+estrogen+in , One cup of soymilk contains four to 10 grams of soy protein, and 20 to 40 mg of isoflavones, plant chemicals that may act like estrogen but probably account for soy’s protective effect against hormonally driven cancers (especially when soy is part of the diet from early childhood).
@@latinmike7 Female cows are killed around age 4 when their milk production slows down a bit. They are even sometimes sent to slaughter with the fetus still in their bellies. Then they are ground up and fed to you like any other male cow. Your own google search mentions soy having protective effects against hormonally driven cancer because it's a plant hormone. This test was performed on humans to prove that milk does effect human hormones: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19496976/ And here is a few that talk about cancer risk: www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15327914nc4801_4 www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2019.00062/full%C2%A0%C2%A0 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2715202/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524299/pdf/IJPH-44-742.pdf
Vynland he says that if we stopped feeding all animals soya then currently need as much soya, say 5% of the worlds population is vegan, if the whole world goes vegan, or a significant amount, that’s like a 75% increase in soya production
Two nights ago a girl was telling me "You know soy production is HORRIBLE for the environment?" All I could say was, it's definitely nowhere near as horrible as producing livestock is...but this is an even better response! Thank you so much for your videos!
Mine too 🟢
Thank you. This is the top 1 argument of my mother. I told her the very same yesterday and now even have the numbers.
Tell your mother that only 15% of plant protein is converted into edible animal protein, so if we ate the soya directly, instead of feeding it to animals, we'd have more than 6 times more protein available.
Source: mosameat.eu/faq.html
@@giotag1819 how much oil free soymeal do you personally eat then????? I hope you're eating more than 4 times the amount of vegetable oil you use!
Love all of the stuff you've put out this month. You're arguments help me explain everything so much better but it's still hard to get people to listen
Skylar Everett because everything you say is bullshit and people know that
prolly because when you try to morally grandstand people on every aspect of their life, from what to drive, how to vote, and what to eat they start tuning your condescending ass out
Brilliant video, Ed. Super concise and logical. Great work.
i never knew the answer to this excuse! thank you
Shame it's flawed. Soy production has a 70%by product. That by product is fed to animals to reduce waste.
@@jackevans7665 You're talking about soybean meal, which can be used to make soy flour and tvp. People can eat soybean meal just fine, they just don't usually choose to. They can't eat the hulls though, only ruminates can, so it has to be dehulled. Hulls are about 8% of soybean meal, so say Google.
@@platoschauvet animals only eat 8% of the 30% of whole bean thats edible for humans. Alot of the soy plant is either inedible or is processed down until its inedible, that's why its given to animals. You think about it, after the soy bean has been processed to remove the oil, that bean becomes very low in nutrients, rather waste it by throwing it into much heaps, its more effective to simple give it to animals.
@@jackevans7665 It's still perfectly edible. Humans can't only eat whole soybeans. Soybean meal is eaten every day by humans all over the world. It's the second ingredient in an impossible burger. It's simply soybean protein and carbs without the oil. And even if you did assume this faulty premise as true, you could still just grow the soy, not process it for oil, and then consume it as a whole bean product directly instead. It could be true that something about the way it's often processed makes it unideal for human consumption (I honestly don't know, but it would make sense, in trying to make it as efficient as possible, less concern about cleanliness etc), but soybean meal, in and of itself, as co-product in the creation of soybean oil, isn't inedible to humans (save for that 8% that is the hulls). The whole soy debate is so irrelevant considering that most of what a cow eats isn't soy anyway. Yes, most of the soy is grown for animal consumption along with oil, but at least half of what a cow eats is grass and other things we legitimately can't eat.
@@platoschauvet I'm not saying the raw bean itself is I edible, clearly since we use it in alot of products, I'm saying that after it's been processed, it's inedible because the nutrients have been taken out of it for use in other products. Herbivore animals such as cows and sheep benefit more from it since they can process more nutrients from it, since their body is designed for it, humans arnt designed like a herbiove is.
I really hope you still read these comments Ed!
I think it would be important to note that a lot of these statistics are muddled up from place to place. Boy would I love to outright state that 85% of soy is used for animal feed since this would put meat eaters at bay for this argument, but it just isn't that simple...
Take the UK for example. Richard Young, Policy Director for the SFT states that in 2015/16, we imported 3.1 million tonnes of soybeans of which 35% was used for animal feed. 45% of it was used for human food products leaving 18% for non food products and the rest as misc.
One may still argue that this is a substantial figure but on the other hand, the UK clearly doesn't used as much soy in animal feed as somewhere like the US.
From a world perspective, FAO has a great platform for agricultural statistics (FAOstat) that Gunnar Rundgren analysed and found that we globally produce 270 million tonnes of soybeans (from my own findings up to 350 million in 2017) of which approx 77% is used for animal feed.
It would be interesting to see what you think of this Ed! I for one think it doesn't at all reduce the argument from the vegan side as globally, the over farming of soy is clearly due to the demand from the animal farming industry but nonetheless, I think it's important to know the ins and outs of the statistics that world organisations quote!
On point as always! You're really doing an incredible job with these videos. Keep them coming xx
Funny thing is, my vegan diet contains less soy than before I went there.
I remember years ago when I was a vegetarian two of my ex bf's housemates having a go at me in the kitchen with this argument I didn't have an answer then and just shouted Fuck Off! and walked out, at least I now know.
This series is amazing! Keep putting that information out there!
Thanks for this video. I'm myself a non-vegan (yeah a meat eater), and have used that argument myself quite often to be honest. I am glad I saw this video! I cannot promise that I will chance my entire diet after this 3 min video but what I can say is that go look for scientific articles about this and some background check, and who knows, maybe my next burger will be an entirely plant-based one. My roomies are vegan and I must say, the fake chicken comes veryyy close to actual chicken!
Loving the series's ed keep it up
And the cover images (or whatever they r supposed to be called) look great !
Skylar Everett "thumbnails" is the term! And you're right, they do look fantastic.
I still don’t like soy, and I try to avoid it until they come up with a seal that states it was not grown in rainforest.
Ed you are such a legend. Much love brother! ♡
We need to stop growing all this food just for animal agriculture! It's such a disaster.
It’s necessary. My job requires me to wear leather. Vegan leather won’t hold up.
I agree, cows should be eating grass. End the mono crops so cows can graze on grass like nature intended
@@sruiz310 soy beans are 100% grown for human consumption not animals
@@stevenlindhorst7579 I’m saying it’s unnecessary to feed them soy. Grass grows much faster with less space, water and resources to use. The soy fed to livestock is also unfit for human consumption. Only reason soy is fed to livestock is to fatten them up but it’s worth noting that soybean meal is a just a byproduct of the manufacturing of soy products like soy bean oil etc.
@@sruiz310 exactly soy is grown for oil this is what vegans won't talk about
What we need to do is stop using so many pesticides on our crops it’s one of the major factors contributing to the decline of bees. Trust me if bees die out things aren’t going to be pretty
Most non-vegans don't know that livestock are fed soy. Where do they think the animals get their protein from? Grass? Air?
Lol actually cows are supposed to eat only grass so you already look stupid. Second 100% of soy grown around the world is for humans.
I'm so happy that you have touched upon this. I'll be sharing this with everyone I know. Why do manufacturers feel it's okay to put soya in practically everything anyway?? They don't care about us people, but we can't control that.. we have to care about ourselves, that we can control 💙
Thanks for this video. I didn't know any of this. I had heard soy farming was bad for the environment, but I just love my tofu so much. now I don't have to give it up. :)
Yes!!!! Go Ed!!
60 percent of processed foods in the UK contain Soya oil.
It’s great that livestock can make good use of the left over product, from Processing the whole beans into Soya oil
You’re incredible Ed, keep going 🌱🤙🏼
You did it again! Huge thank you
I would love an answer to this. My friend got super angry at me calling me a hypocrite. Because we say its wrong to eat fish. (his argument was he only eats a little bit of fish) So why can we (vegans) point the finger at him and say he is bad for only eating a little fish. When soy farming is destroying the environment. And I said but most of it is fed to animals. But his arguement was that its ok for vegans to have a little bit of soy. But not non vegans to have a little bit of fish.
Whats the response?
More truth bombs from Ed
I'd like to see a video on bees and if food they pollinate are still vegan and if so why honey isn't. I've gotten this question a couple of times.
Classic Nostalgia because they are not enslaved or the queens wings riped off.
Honey is basically bee vomit, is it not? Ergo, a secretion from an animal just like milk. Bees should be left alone like the rest of the animals and do their pollinating as they do in nature, buzzing around on a summers day... It a delicate balance, is our ecosystem 😊
Clare Birschel and when they sting me they get wacked
of course the products of trafficked, enslaved bees are NOT vegan & that's the reality of almost all pollination in the world today! 200 billion bees in the US alone are currently enslaved & part of the bee trafficking industry, having their hives emptied of food every few weeks so the hives can be made to work harder & easily lifted onto trucks for transport to the next "vegan" crop. 100 billion bees a year are tortured to death through this process!
Bees making speciality honeys like manuka, that do NOT get trafficked around their country, see losses of only 10-20% of their hive per year, v the 50% for the bees pollinating your "vegan" crops. Pretty dam obvious which one is the most enslaved, deadly & cruel isn't it! Bees are geo-sensitive! trafficking them from one mono-crop to the next every few weeks is as cruel as you can get!
So does Impossible Burgers that you want us to eat instead of real meat.
Thank you for sharing! Finally a good argument to tell non vegans
But it's not. 70% of soy farming is a byproduct, and the food waste is sold on as animal feed. Animals get the leftovers for what humans consume.
I think the video was amazing but it would've been interesting for you to point out the ratio of soy consumed by animals in animal farming / net amount of meat produced. If I'm not mistaken it's somewhere around 12-17kg of soy for 1kg of beef? Correct me if I'm wrong Ed!
very interesting reading about the UN - could you supply a source?
greetings and thanks for your videos;)
You should also point out that the herbicides which are used for GMO soy not only have an impact on the environment but especially on the people living nearby.
Causing cancer, birth defects and other things.
Which doensn't mean that vegans are bad people because "they eat GMO soy products all the time". GMO products must be labeled, even if they use it only as an ingredient, at least in Europe. No idea which laws apply to other parts of the world. ??
I wonder what a non vegan would have to say in front of one of those deformed kids.
Hey, can u link me the reference of the article about soya farming is bad because its used to feed animals? thank you
I love you Ed. You are an inspiration.
and when we all eat soja, do you think the actual production will be enought?
I think the agriculture probleme will stay the same with the amount needed to feed all human with soja.
The same argument goes for meat and dairy production by the way: it's not sustainable for all humans on this planet. It has not even been sustainable for the last decades, we just did not want to notice. And we don't have to feed all humans with soya if this really were to become a problem, we could shift to something else. If that was not possible either, we'd be at the end of the road anyway, as feeding farm animals requires a lot more plant protein than directly consuming the plants ourselves. I doubt that it will become a problem though, because it is estimated that 75% of the land used in agriculture would be freed if we stopped animal farming. (Late reply, but still. ;)
Thanks for the insightful video!
Just to be clear, I am currently pescatarian (slowly turning into vegetarian).
I am also deeply concerned about whats happening to the environment now and have one question for you.
You address the problem of soya, using a lot of arable land, destroying habitats and ecosystems. A product which is mostly farmed for animal food. I get it. But when all of us, humans, switch to veganism, we will have to replace all the calories that we received from meat or dairy, from plants, right? But is it anywhere, calculable, available to know, how much plant-based food would be needed to feed our entire population if everyone were to become vegan? How much land would have to be exploited in order to feed us?
Make note, that our population is still rapidly growing, even now not all of sapiens are fed well, and also whatever agriculture business is done on arable land (animal or plant) - it becomes less fertile over time until it fully degrades. According to WWF we have lost 50% of our topsoil, which allows us to grow anything in the past 150 years. It doesn't apply only to animals - even now some plant based products (apart from soy), are very aggressive - avocado or palm oil industries are causing massive commotions in the environment - erasing large areas for the industries to thrive.
So how can we assure out future generations that land won't be more over-exploited than it is now? Soil doesn't care if it's an animal or a plant, if used for mass production, for instant profit - it will get degraded really fast. UN-studies have shown that approx. 24 billion tonnes of soil is being degraded because of intensive farming. Obviously, economic or any other 'growth' won't stop unless the system changes. And both the government and businesses perpetuate that growth cycle. Until now I haven't come up with any solution on how to stop that growth mania. So knowing growth will require more and more from the resources to feed a constantly multiplying race of us - and knowing that this can lead to a very dangerous soil degradation that won't allow us to have ANY food (since animals run on plants too) - what can we do?
In the end, as far as I argue in the sustainability matter - it doesn't matter if the race will be fully or quarterly vegan, in the end, if current system keeps on thriving, environmental sustainability won't be reached. At least, that's my take on it now.
What do you think?
Just to underline again - I am not against veganism. I have a goal to become one myself too. I just take gradual steps, since diet changing makes my stomach goes ridonculous and it is not a pleasurable experience. But I am also deeply concerned about the environment, and how change is good. But a long-term thought-out plan is even better. I don't want my grandchildren to be stuck in another 'climate' situation like we are right now (just instead of global warming, it would be how to make soil fertile again without starving?).
If you have any thoughts on this, I would love to hear you out!
Maybe this will help: ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
@@suicune2001 Wooow! That is a lot of data, thank you so much for the link!
Please can you do a video about how you can have a sustainable vegan lifestyle in the UK?? I’m not sure you can have a balanced vegan diet if you were only to rely on local organic produce (which is arguably the only #crueltyfree option)! I’ve been vegan for 5 years. I buy my walnuts in plastic bags that come from China. I buy b12 capsules in plastic bottles. I can’t afford organic so I eat frozen, plastic wrapped veg. I sometimes buy almond milk, probably from California. Bee’s are used to pollinate my avocados and almonds (the decline of which can be attributed to harmful pesticide use), pesticides cover the veg crops I buy from, influencing cancer rates in farmers hundreds and thousands of miles away from me. Instead of leather I wear plastic. Instead of wool I wear polyester. All of this goes into landfill and water systems. I am actively harming all living beings as a result of my consumption AS A VEGAN! 😭I know it might seem OTT but isn’t that what vegans are accused of being? “Too extreme”? If it’s about compassion, sustainability and health, I’m having serious doubts about how veganism can viably contribute. Am leaning more towards local, organic, very minimal AP consumption that is grass-fed, for example. Help!!! 😅😅 am having a vegan identity crisis and need your input please!!
BUT what if we stopped feeding livestock soy and fed them what they're supposed to eat...grass?
I wonder what are soy oil and soy milk made of?🤔🤔
Lol as if tofu is where all the soy is going. How ignorant
This is the best one so far. Keep it up!
Does the UN still say that going vegan is vital to avoiding the worst effect of climate change/animal agriculture is a leading cause of climate change? I can't find any reports made by the UN that says this, I can only find articles saying that the UN said it.
Great video Ed. For those who want more proof of this (or a handy link to refute non-vegan claims), check this USDA report from 2015 that states, "Just over 70 percent of the soybeans grown in the United States are used for animal feed, with poultry being the number one livestock sector consuming soybeans, followed by hogs, dairy, beef
and aquaculture". www.usda.gov/sites/default/files/documents/coexistence-soybeans-factsheet.pdf
Soy is Joy.
Steak is great.
Yes, vegan steak is great. Steak made from a dead cow is cancer.
*creepybeaver3981* steak made from once tortured, raped, and killed cow is great.
It's joy if you are a post menopausal woman and need your estrogen levels boosted, yes.
It's really helpful sir 💪
Great video
what % of that 85% is processed into vegetable oil?
None. The figure is 85% because it’s already had the vegetable oil and the finest grade Soya meal used taken out and used for human consumption.
Facts and logic destroys carnist nonsense every time
Keep it up!
As usual the key is better farming, not to stop farming. The technology and methodology to grow enough food for a rich diet of both meat and plants can be developed so that we can maintain a healthy and delicious diet of BOTH food types. It is not necessary to stop animal or plant farming. We only need better methods. It also turns out that climate change can help,with this by making more land at the hemispheric frontiers arable. For example, new techniques are being developed to grow food in permafrost regions. Previously unthinkable. This could allow for a quantum leap in food output. We don’t need and should not want veganism. The key is technology and innovation for profit. That is how you expand the food supply. Not by limiting the human diet to unnatural plant-only formulations.
You’re amazing Ed 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Can u make a video regarding the “its in my culture to eat meat my mom and families food etc etc” not just in western countries
he has one about culture in this series ;) And today he uploaded another one about family and friends :)
Peachy Peach right but i feel like it was a more western approach to it. Idk lol
My moms the best cook in thr family im middle eastern and muslim and im very disconnected to them but the only
Thing that keeps me slightly connected is my moms food and if i couldnt eat her food id feel like im missing out bc one day she wont be around ya know ? Sorry if thats selfish im working on it
love it
Even without soy we cannot support a pure vegetarian population any more than we can a pure carnivore one.
It's because farming practices are terrible
Please share these videos. Animals need help.
Switching between data and studies and global zones .🤔
Love the clip of cows eating corn in the middle of cornfields thats sustainable instead of corn shipped to UK
How much soy needs to be grown to feed the entire world?
Can u speak about the backster effect ed ?
Astro what's that ?
Sharon Dunne its a study you can look up online where they showed that plants felt some type of panic/emotions. Someone used this in an argument with me yesterday I still held my own bu would like to hear Ed’s take on it
Sharon Dunne and btw it’s much more than panic I just said that lol look into it for yourself and see Bio communication
Astro so I looked into this before. I think backster himself said something about the plants wanting to be a part of us. I'm not sure how he got to that conclusion.
On a side note, I'm attending a master's program on herbalism. There is something called xenohormesis. This is when a plant creates a metabolite to protect itself from it's environment and you consume it causing you to benefit from it. Those metabolites can be smell, toxic phytochemicals, thicker skin, etc... This in a way makes me think there is an obvious level of intelligence coming from the plant, to even produce the chemical and know that it's working. At the same time I think that just like they make adjustments to repel, they also make adjustments to attract. Like color, taste, smell, etc... So if a plant also has this intelligence, it knowingly is calling to be eaten. Just my theory.
Or the person may buy and eat pasture raised animals only, without soybean.
Non vegans are left with no excuse😶😐
What if everyone cut their meat consumption by 80%? We would have gone a far way and the stakelovers can have their magical-reason-to-live-steak two times per month and be happy while the industry will have to adapt to a more sustainable method mith more focus on plants :)
Keep on using technology that runs on electricity and driving cars, trucks and buses and flying on plane's and the list goes on....
I know its easy to get defensive, but this is misleading. 85% of soy grown in the world is crushed for soybean oil. 98% of that leftover soy product is then given to livestock. Soybean oil makes much more money than soy does as feed, but it allows farmers to sell the byproduct and make money off of the whole crop, even though animals really should just be grass fed anyways. 6% is used in direct human consumption. The rest is used for fuel.
He will never address this no vegan will 100% of soy is grown for humans not cows its just a waste product....genius business model tho
I could go without the xenoestrogen load though, thanks.
did you even watch the video
@@rattus8112 I watched the video, yes.
neptronix so therefore you know you’re already eating soy products and don’t actually have to increase your intake of it?
@@rattus8112 I don't consume any soy products at all. Directly or indirectly.
Why would anyone consume a food that skews your hormones - unless you're a post menopausal woman?
neptronix so then what was the point of the comment it’s not even relevant? you sort of made it sound like being vegan forces you to consume soy 😭😭😭
humans can only eat 1/10 of the soy needed to fed a pig or a dozen chickens and turkeys in a day...
but if everyone in the world became vegan wont the demand for soy become so much higher
Vecause not everyone likes soy. And humans consyme way less food than animals and already we are feeding billions of animals.that land will be relased.
Its bugs.
BOOM!!!!!!!!
vegetation isnt unlimited
Pretty twisted logic there. Only a small amount of a soy plant is edible for human consumption, funny enough about 70% of a soy plant is a by-product. And only a small percentage of the beans is for animal consumption. In truth if we didn't have animals eating the byproduct, not only would it make no difference to the amazon, but we'd also have a massive amount of food waste.
In conclusion, 70% of soy production is a byproduct and is fed to animals.
To be fair vegans are still buying soy therefore supporting that kind of market
HEY EVERYONE THERE IS A CHANNEL NAMED THE RED PILL PHILOSOPHY HE IS TRYING TO SPEAK UP FOR VEGANS, BUT HIS VIEWERS ARE MOSTLY CRAZY ALT RIGHT MEAT EATERS , SO HE IS GETTING A LOT OF HATE ON HIS CHANNEL WE SHOULD SHOW HIM SOME SUPPORT!!!! WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEN WITH HIS POLITICAL VIEWS SUPPORTING VEGANISM!
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Dude have you had in n out?
Hey Ed. I dont know if youll read this but I hope u could. I went vegan last summer (2017) and its obviously the best thing one can do. Now my problem is that I dont like anyone that isnt vegan anymore. I see them as monsters, people that enjoy raping and murdering, because thats what they do. They use products of rape on their cakes that they celebrate their kids birthday, and they all laugh and enjoy, like monsters. Do you know how to deal with this? Is there even a way? I would like to be able to be friends with non vegans but I cant because all I see is what they are doing to the world and all animals except the human specie. :(
Rebecka Dahlbom Try to remember how u was before veganism, and educate your freinds so they might see the cruelty
Honestly, you need to think about the good in them and understand that it is not their fault that they are ignorant. They either don't know or aren't ready to make the commitment of veganism. Being friends with meat eaters has actually been a good thing. We discuss on the topic and I give facts about the lifestyle of being a vegetarian. 2 people I talked to have become a vegetarian.
Rebecka Dahlbom enjoy eating your grass. Off to get a bacon sandwich 👍
I deal with this too (albeit in a much less intense way) and I think it definitely gets easier the longer you’ve been vegan, give yourself another few months and you’ll probably grow accustomed to being calm around non veggies. I still often find myself looking at people I really respect though - my doctors and teachers etc- and think, ‘they’re so smart, how are they not vegan?’ and I console myself by thinking, ‘it’s just a matter of time. They’ll realise what they’re doing wrong some day.’
you can't really blame them for being conditioned to think in such a way, the exact same way that you were too!
We can also eat vegans
Well as non vegan its already clearly i dont care about the environment as I believe will eat from everything with moderation or as i think its healthy for me as , so why should i look for what contain soybeans!? Its supposed to be Your part to explain and try to convince me or win the argument, but to shift the blame on non vegan as answer just because we challenge you , you use your laptop which run by electricity which need fussel fuel so thats effect the environment now you will say : but you use it as well so why did you challenged me ( thats the kind of arguments u have ) , oh btw consumption of soy beans milk had been linked to high estrogen in men 👌 its great source of nutrition 🤣,
Nevermind la.. EU only cares orang utan in malaysia and Indonesia.. So good they treat us. No orang utan place can do deforestation. Haha
Love the sarcasm
SHIVAM PATEL Love the denial and defensiveness.
Reluctant Warrior Ⓥ thank you, you need someone who can be in denial to keep you going
SHIVAM PATEL, Facts and logic destroys carnist nonsense every time, my dear friend.
Big Black Cock ahh my good old buddy
soy maybe good for women but not for men for example Burger King Soy Burger Grows Bewbs On Dudes 18 million time more estrogen then a regular beef burger soy milk has more estrogen then regular milk so no, as for me give me the beef.
You know what grows man boobs? Being fat. You know what makes most men fat? Eating animal products. Here are some sources about estrogen:
nutritionfacts.org/video/estrogen-in-meat-dairy-and-eggs/
nutritionfacts.org/video/dairy-estrogen-and-male-fertility/
nutritionfacts.org/2016/09/13/estrogen-animal-products/
nutritionfacts.org/2016/06/16/dietary-estrogens-male-fertility/
You know what else meat causes? Erectile dysfunction.
@@suicune2001 soy is used for animal feed so yes your party right, but it's still soy, and wheat, wheat is in every food one way or another look it up,
@@latinmike7 What evidence do you have that soy in of itself somehow has more estrogen then milk from a pregnant cow? The body doesn't get confused that plant estrogen is not human estrogen and filters it out easily. Cow estrogen is close enough to human estrogen that the body thinks its our estrogen and uses it. Thus, men will have lower testosterone and sperm count when they drink cow milk.
And I eat whole foods so I know when I'm eating wheat.
@@suicune2001 first of all the beef you buy at the stores are not female pregnant cows they are bulls, the male cow, it would be stupid to kill a pregnant cow for food. the females are used to produce milk and bear offspring. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160803124441.htm A new study investigated cow milk's effects on blood hormone levels in adult mice and found that naturally occurring levels, and even levels as high as 100 times the average, had no effect on the mice. The study further determined that only when the mice were given 1,000 times more estrogen than average did it have any impact on reproductive health. www.bing.com/search?q=how+much+estrogen+is+in+one+cup+of+soy+milk&form=ANSPH1&refig=ece5ff7c149b45959dfc226658f34310&sp=2&qs=RI&pq=how+much+estrogen+in , One cup of soymilk contains four to 10 grams of soy protein, and 20 to 40 mg of isoflavones, plant chemicals that may act like estrogen but probably account for soy’s protective effect against hormonally driven cancers (especially when soy is part of the diet from early childhood).
@@latinmike7 Female cows are killed around age 4 when their milk production slows down a bit. They are even sometimes sent to slaughter with the fetus still in their bellies. Then they are ground up and fed to you like any other male cow.
Your own google search mentions soy having protective effects against hormonally driven cancer because it's a plant hormone.
This test was performed on humans to prove that milk does effect human hormones:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19496976/
And here is a few that talk about cancer risk:
www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15327914nc4801_4
www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2019.00062/full%C2%A0%C2%A0
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2715202/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524299/pdf/IJPH-44-742.pdf
If more people went vegan more soya would have to be produced to feed humans, flaw in your logic
Eye Sees You where are your facts and statistics?
Swanny94 stop eating animals that eat soy or you don't believe what you say
It depends, humans have mass of a cow? oh shit you got owned
Vynland he says that if we stopped feeding all animals soya then currently need as much soya, say 5% of the worlds population is vegan, if the whole world goes vegan, or a significant amount, that’s like a 75% increase in soya production
Eye Sees You where’s his evidence, nothing linked, no graphs or charts, just news articles without the actual source provided, unreliable as fuck