These owners were some of my favorite people, we laughed and had fun. They’re also amazing dog owners. As I’ve talked about before, the people are not always the problem just like the dog isn’t always the problem. In this case the closeness of the family is the problem. The dog wants to be with these people because they’re good people to be with. They need to do “circle of trust” method, over and over or outsource the making friends process to me or someone else then bring them back in the mix.
Absolutely fantastic! Great for the owners to trust both you and Prince. Joel, I definitely saw some resource guarding on this dog’s part. There’s this moment after the dog was corrected, everyone is in the field, you were playing/engaging with Prince and the dog looked at you and went straight to the husband’s side while keeping his eyes on you & Prince. The dog did not turn his back on you & let “his guard down” and play with his owner. When a dog runs to your side, as an owner this can seem heartwarming, oh my dog loves me and wants to be by my side, but the dog could be resource guarding. I see this play out in my own home. I have two teenage dogs (wasn’t going to get the second until the first was past the Teen Stage, but the pup had to be rehomed). Yes jealousy does take place in & between dogs. Dogs can exhibit different emotions, jealousy, dominance, insecurity, bullying, that leads to resource guarding, etc. We can see that “Big Dogging Effect” in older siblings to younger sibs where they snatch something from the younger sibling, or physically be too rough during play. My Mal Mix is 2 months older & 5x size of Mini Mix and will snatch what the Mini Mix has (food, treat or ball). You can’t take someone else’s things can be tough to teach. I think the dog went after Prince due to both resource guarding & trying to establish dominance, and Prince sent a clear message you are not going to dominate me, and be Alpha here.
I have a desexed female border collie 9mth old very similar temperament to this aussie. She doesn't seem to want friends and snaps at other dogs if they come towards us. This has given us some ideas in how to minimise her outbursts.
@@TheWacklernow, now. You know better than that. C'mon. He 📌'd his own comment for good reason. Defending the owners of the dog from getting unfairly trashed in the comments. I did my normal thing, don't blame us cuz you were late to the party 😂
I admire that the owners didn't react when Prince corrected their dog. As loud and frantic as it appeared, they didn't freak out and baby their dog. Looks like they did their research and trusted that Prince wasn't going to hurt their dog.
I assume they already knew how these session and Prince work. 🙂 But probably it was still difficul not to react. That's why they froze a bit, when it happened, instead of correcting Simba.
As always, your content is incredibly informative. We have a 9-month-old Australian Shepherd, so this video was particularly interesting to me. We're 'a little bit' stricter with our four-legged friend, as he can be stubborn and occasionally seems deaf to commands. Still, most of the time, he’s a good boy who listens well. Every week seems to bring new challenges, which can be frustrating-but that’s life with a teenager. Last week, he suddenly started barking at random dogs on the street, so we corrected him, and today there were no issues at all. We've been watching your videos for a year now, and they’ve been a huge help, especially as first-time dog owners facing many moments of doubt. It’s a journey, and with so much information online, it was tough to figure out what would work best. We’re really grateful for all the advice you share.
hes entered the veloceraptor phase! hang in there, they mellow again at 18mo. keep the discipline, training, up consistently with daily routines if you can so he/she remains confident of her pack. our main routine is '8 is crate' - watch his focus get between the thing he/she gets focused on always.
met joel at kahoots once about one of our young 6-7mo stubborn aussies and he showed me the alternate touching/correcting method and age appropriate training. it was a life saver. she is now winning sheep herding competitions at 2.5 years. would have probably ruined her if we didnt understand what joel shared. he is the goat
I've noticed that most Corso's getting rehomed are about 10months - the owners say they have "no time". There is light at the end of the tunnel - If you work through the tiresome teens, they're completely different and very sensible by 2 years. Unbelievable that they're just left alone all day, given no training and watch Netflix every evening, never leaving the property.
0:12 You are not aloooone, your nervous dog is always here with yooouuu. 0:38 The Aussie/Collie dog sees the Kraken and wants the smoke! 0:52 The Separation method 1:31 Joel starts explaining whats going on to the owners just so he can bust out his sweet Robot dance moves 2:13 Dog training commercial 2:22 Dad saying Hi to another dog sets off Simba 2:46 The BUTT-FACE method 3:06 Asking real world questions to get to the *bottom* of things 3:18 Joel reenacts how exactly the meeting went 3:36 Holding dogs against their will so butts can be smelled 5:09 Separating Simba from Mommy and Daddy 5:44 *Half-assed Slo-mo freak out* Simba cant have new friends because hes too attached to his Hoomans 6:25 Simba acts outta picket and then gets his reinforcement from the othwr dog going away and reclaiming his Throne between the King and Queen. Little does he know hes not the real Prince.... 6:53 Joel explains the "Out of the cricle of trust method" very eloquently then calls their dog a jerk 8:17 Joel lets Simba off leash and ... 8:23 IT was at this moment Simba knew he'd F*UCK'D up 9:00 Joel briefly makes out with Prince to reinforce that stopping the arse whoopin' was a good thing 9:29 the dog CANNOT pair in his mind that acting a fool gets him reinforcement. Shun him! 10:16 Joel doesn't like when dogs step on his new kicks 12:07 Joel warns Simba to keep his herding instincts in check as he lets the Real Prince out 12:25 *The proof is IN the PUDDING!* Simba and his owners wander around in the pasture with Prince loose.
Your presentation and teaching is ace! So informative, content rich, and to-the-point. Very interesting commentary on options of what should have happened and why it didn't - a lesser "expert" wouldn't have your confidence and nonchalance at self-critiquing or saying, 'I don't know exactly'! GOAT
yep, farm dog living a suburban life. I feel bad for the Aussie, He would probably be wonderful on sheep or cattle, but here he is just called a bad boy.
@youtubeKathy He was just really doing his job, but if he was with a proper family who got him out doing more and socializing more with other dogs, he wouldn't be as bad. Aussies, though, are very protective of their owners because they do see them as their " livestock" to protect. As a dog Walkers, I had a wonderful Aussie who was great until I got home with her Mom and then she became very protective. She would never bite but I had a hard time getting her to leave the home when her Mom was there.
@@melodieramsay655 sounds like you walked my Aussie. Was her name “Piper”?😄😄😄😄 The herding drive us really strong. Even in my wonderful collie-Aussie mix, She had much energy in her as a youth. I jogged with her in the mornings, we took her to the dog park. But the day I took her to a herding instinct test on some sheep, she had this aura of deep inner calm and life purpose that evening.
Two major things I got out of this: 1) After his primary strength of outstanding understanding of dog behavior, Joel's second huge strength is how well he communicates. He can explain everything in a way that people can relate to and use right away. 2) Even the best trainer is not always perfect, BUT the best trainer knows when he's slipped and knows how to correct the problem anyway.
The biggest problem without generalizing like that is that we, as humans have not taken the time to read their language they don’t understand our language, and we have not taken the time to understand theirs. Therefore, we are the problem. We set them up for failure in our energy, have you ever watched Cesar Millan, makes them fail in most cases.
So often - even with the most caring owners - it’s the human to dog relationship that’s the problem. Correct, treat your dog like a DOG, and all will be well. When we include our dog into our realm as an equal human - it confuses the heck out of them. Good job to these owners… you’re up against a whole lot of mixed up human/dog societal pressure that we all live in today.
A woman invited my dog to her out-of-control animal's birthday party to wear little hats and eat cake with a crowd of strange dogs. Don't know if any of the partygoers were eaten.
Not many understand what "like a dog" even means. Sadly my sister has a powerful dog that growls at her. It makes me wanna kick both of them. Her more so. I no longer bring my dogs around them. 😢 I miss my sister.
Another great video! I like your discussion around displacement. That was something I had a hard time explaining to my elderly in-laws (they have an out of control pitbull and coonhound). I’ll be sharing this video with them!
Interesting how Simba kept working them, going back/forth between them, almost as if to try to communicate that his herd needed to be back together in one group. And almost looked like he needed a bigger bite of aw-chit-sammich after bulldozing into Prince like that. Nice folks, overall looks like a nice dog, just needs to learn how to expand his social bubble a bit.
Yup. He was looking for some sort of reinforcement and sense of security and had to figure out that the new way wasn't all that bad. He'll figure it out if they keep up the work. That's a smart dog just needed a little different direction
@@Texas240 that's a possibility but there's also the possibility that since they brought their dog to Joel for help and now have some guidance, saw how things changed that they'll continue because they like the results they saw in such a short time frame. Both hypotheticals but let's give them the benefit of the doubt because at the end of the day we all watch these videos because we like and care for dogs and wish them to be as happy and fulfilled in their short lives as possible.
The Aussie is totally owning the 2 of them - they are his property. It's not healthy at all because the owners are his property that he's guarding, which is his natural instinct, but they need to let him know that they don't need his protection. You can see that the dog looks like he's almost sitting on the husband's feet.
Awesome video. Fascinating. Thank you. Some musings: herding breeds are sight focussed more than any other sense. They are very aware of their surroundings so can get overstimulated easily. Also the time between seeing & acting is often non-existent. I suggest a dogs herding nature makes it want to control its environment (or maybe the other way around? - this stuff is fascinating!). So I see a dog that is pre-occupied with controlling the vicinity of its owners for both resource guarding & protective reasons. And it’s generally not confident with other dogs (making it all worse). Thanks again Joel. looking forward to the next video!
It's great watching Prince do his thing and hold court. I had a German Shepherd once upon a time named Leo and Prince really reminds of him. I worked in a small office and took the Shepherd to work most days and we would usually hit the dog park on the way home (like 3 or 4 days a week) so he was very well socialized and he had to check a few dogs there. We worked with a trainer so he was well squared away but thw first time I saw him correct another dog I was alarmed and thought it was gonna get bad but he knew what he was doing better than I did and he got the dog to quickly fall in line amd everyone was chill. It only happened a few times and the other owners were either cool about it or stopped coming which was fine cuz Leo only checked dogs that were being very uncool. I'd never seen anything like that until Prince here and my subsequent shepherds have not been like this either. Prince is a very special and rare dog.
He was a tough pup for sure. Definitely obsessed with the owners. The method you're using i think would definitely work with the owners playing their part over time but they gotta get way tougher on him. They have 0 toughness with him.
Yeah I’m sure you would have an interesting go with my two dogs (PinChi’s). I made the mistake of letting my husband take them on more solo walks without me during their first 2 yrs which made them unlearn everything that I had taught them. I found out that he enjoyed seeing them go crazy when other dogs would come near them. 😑😮💨. I have gotten on him so much about just letting them do what they want and never correcting them. I feel like it’s so hard to get them to stop now that they are 3yrs old going on 4. I won’t give up. This video was pretty good. I will for sure have to break the bond that they have with each other because one of them is more triggered by the actions of the other one. They spend way too much time together, it has made them into a very toxic pair of pups.
Would love to learn more about dog on dog correction. Some people freak out and think its an attack, but when you slow-mo you can see that there isnt actually any real biting going on
the issue is that some dogs go overboard with the correction. my dog went to sniff another dog in a friendly way once...well i guess the dog felt that rolling him on to his back and biting his throat was an acceptable way to say ¨im not interested¨ .
@@angelinacamacho8575 Thats not what prince was doing though. Your experience does sound a bit weird. Most corrections ive seen are specifically shoulder to shoulder shoving and side “nipping” the shoulder neck area.
He is on high alert status, the panting, tail poition and looking around. Sometimes these dogs are so connected to their owners that they get a brain lock about just being a dog. Aussies can be a little tricky in this way. Just my two cents.
@@rosablume4346there's something to this. I notice it a lot too but my neighbors have a standard tricolor and it's very.much the same. I'll probably send this video to them.
@rosablume4346 uh huh. And where did you pull that info from. Merle genes do not have an affect on behavior, good responsible breeding does. Aussies got the merle gene from one of their founding breeds carea leones. What does screw up the breed is when people breed mass breed them as show, minis, and toys for looks.
👉I know many love Aus Shepherds but I've been bitten by 2 separate ones who weren't all there but now I see it's untrained/under worked herding instinct!
An excellent example of why "mothering/babying" a dog is a terrible practice. Dogs are NOT substitute beings for a loss or a "gap" in the owners life. Dogs do NOT behave, process or comprehend the complexities of human beings. I'm always impressed with Joel and Prince, especially when Prince does his "thing"!! #AWESOME ❤❤
At 8:22 before the dog even fully passed behind Joel he was locked in and literally bearing teeth at prince who was 10-15 feet away so that’s interesting. He was watching prince and as I interpret not happy prince was roaming while you were talking before hand and he was laying between his parents. He did go for prince’s rear which could be herding or also like an enforcer type attack. Anyway. Prince wasn’t having it and although prince wanted to try again when Joel was holding the collar it’s amazing how prince lets things go and also is really just correcting and not actually biting these dogs when these scuffles happen. I hope this shepherd can learn to chill a little. He’s def his peoples dog!
My parents always had collies and they can be quite snappy, I think because the collie went for Prince in his own home, Prince wasn’t having any of that, quite rightly so.
So for a dog like this; since just from observed body language between people and dog it seems like they spend every waking moment together and never apart, would it be beneficial to do work for separation anxiety? Like crate training to get them used to being by themselves and that they don't need to be up the owners rear end all the time? Then with walks, 1 person at a time to work on those in the moment corrections so its not like the kid going to mom because she will give a different answer in the moment when dad has just grounded them?
@@angelinacamacho8575One of his best friends at the park is a large male wolf dog that he befriended as an adult. It’s something about how this breed acts that ticks off a lot of dogs. It must be how the owner handles them since my guy’s bestie is a solid dark grey Aussie but fixed. His friend randomly went after him the tiniest bit and my friend fixed his Aussie the next week.
that was no herding instinct. that was an i am a big dog butt kicking attempt on prince and lost, like he should have lost, prince read it exactly right. have austrailian shepherds and know their language fairly good now.
I don't see anything toxic. He's a good dog with his family and if they weren't trying to take him places, they'd be fine. He's happy with his people and if anyone with nefarious intentions shows up, he's going to notice and protect them. His natural instinct is to do what he's doing.
@@Texas240 you dont see it because you don’t know what you’re looking at. A dog in a healthy relationship doesn’t act like that. You mistake insecurity and resource guarding for “protectiveness “.
@@OffGridDogs you're not understanding that at home, he's not displaying those behaviors because there's no opportunity or need and at home, the "resource" he's guarding is his people and his territory. If they weren't trying to take him places, he'd be totally fine. Going places isn't natural to dogs. If they had worked more on basic obedience before trying to take the dog out in public to busy, distracting places with lots of things, aka people, "out of place" (herding dog), then the dog would be more focused on looking to them for what to do instead of trying to decide what needs to be done.
Joel I respect your option so much , I’ve heard you say prince is not fixed, my now 10 month old Malinois is not fixed. I’m so confused about fixing or not. I don’t want to breed I don’t want a crazy dog , I’m just not educated on this matter . People just always do it like we’re suppose to. I neutered my lab when she was young she lived for 15 years but maybe I was just lucky? Do you have options on this that could be helpful for me. Thank you Cricket
Read up on a study done by UC Davis using over 700 Golden Retrievers Feb 13th 2013. University of California Davis is over 100 years old and has a vet training program. The study results are clear on neutering and spaying. Also watch a youtube video by Dr Becker: "The truth about spaying and neutering".
This was really interesting to Watch. I also have an aussie and he is Nice to other dogs when we meet them calmly. But when he tries to Play with them his herding Instinct Kicks in and he Ruins the fun for the other dogs.
Beautiful shepherd! Prince is THEE BOSS! We have a blue merle shepherd similar to this one and, watching this....that behavior is so typical of an Aussie. They don't call them Aussholes for nothing!
My dog checked a dog that was bugging without aggression twice before going beast mode. The parent of the other dog got in middle of it while the dogs were dealing with it themselves. He turned around and kicked my dog. I made them get off my property
5:19 the other dog was the problem though and started it and deserved to get scared (get a proper correction for impolite meeting). Prince later did nothing wrong and did the right thing by correcting the Aussie. The Golden Retriever is friendly, sure but not balanced and as seen in the scene before hyper active and over the top, not cqlm at all and just like most Retrievers he has no manners and just gets into your face. That's something every normal dog doesn't like and considers to be impolite and if not well socialized could see as threat so the Australian Shepherd just went defensive mode. Since there are way too many dogs like thise Retrievers, the Australian Shepherd needs to learn that it's no threat to him or his family but it was still the other dog starting it. Both my dogs (Akita and white GSD) hate this behaviour too but they trust and respect me and know I handle it for them and thus stay calm. Just today I had a super tiny Jack Russel pass us (off-leash in a on-leash zone) with my dogs calm and in heel. A few inches besides us he rushed insane like a berserk , snarling and barking torwards my dogs. They luckily are well behaved so I could block that little sh**. That stupid owner didn't even apologize. If I wouldn't have trained my dogs so well, that little thing would be dead by now 🤷🏼♀️ he came so close, my dogs could've grabbed it even if I held the leashes as short as possible. Anyway, it's important to teach your dog to tolreate even situations he considers to be impolite or even a threat.
The couple kept doing what you tell them over and over not to do. Even separating they keep looking and acknowledging their dog. You got some people who don’t understand words well.😂
So my collie mcnab is exhibiting these kind of random lunge and outburst freak outs and it’s no doubt for the same reason as this couple. My question is, have always tried to correct him, but it backfires and he thinks im encouraging it, or giving him the attention, etc. could you give a link or more videos showing example of displacement, the body mechanics, and maybe talk about how to avoid doing the behaviours that are contributing to my mcnabs’ growing protection and jealousy problem of sharing me with mostly humans but also now he’s beginning to show with some dogs at park as well.
This is likely my issue with our doodle. Previously the gentlest most friendly dog, he’s still great with humans and dog friends. BUT he’s become leash reactive toward other dogs when I walk him. Not the same if my wife walks him - so I think he’s over bonded to me.
I've seen this play out with a collie dog, of all the breeds they seem to be more aggressive in my opinion, in from the UK so I'm very used to Welsh collie, or border collie, rough coat collie, what ever name they go by.... They are so do do intelligent, of all the breeds I find them amazing the way they actually stalk ,it's usually only seen in Cats... I agree it's common sense really with dog keeping, but people especially nowadays especially Americans love humanising their pets. Dressing them in clothes, barely exercising them god knows why they think it's okay for a young mum of 3 to have a malamute then whack the heating right up when it gets cold huskies would rather sleep in the yard covered in snow.. It's absolutely the owners fault when it goes tits up, rarely the dogs, ...
How do I make my submissive and a bit scared golden retriever like dogs? How do I introduce them correctly? We can go into a dog park and he whines and his tail is wagging and he’s all excited, but when we get to other dogs and ESPECIALLY when we let him off leash he gets REALLY submissive and almost scared, he’s usually great on leash, but scared off leash, he has been rushed once before and possibly bit but we couldn’t see a bite mark, and he was almost rushed (on leash) by an aggressive border collie that was off leash. Luckily it didn’t reach him as me and my dad stepped in the way. But back to the question. Do you know how to make my dog more comfortable and confident around other dogs? x
Exposure, good interactions with other dogs. He doesn't need to meet every dog btw. Statistically speaking, the more good meetings your dog has the more he should be comfortable but you also run the risk of a bad interaction and making things worse. Maybe you've just got a very timid dog, try building confidence with obedience, play any other activities that don't necessarily have to involve another dog right there in the mix.
@@rptrick79 I’ve tried, he knows a lot of tricks and loves doing them, he has gotten a little bit better but he’s still VERY submissive when it comes to dogs. I’m not sure why either because as a puppy he loved dogs and never really had a bad experience for all I know at least. Right now we’re doing nosework so maybe that’ll boost his confidence a bit. But I do believe that good interactions would be great, I’m scared of it making it worse tho by a bad interaction x
@@emlaux_art pick and choose the interaction with new dogs for sure but I would put my energy in other places with just training and having fun. It may be somewhat genetic, there's a runt of a GOlden that used to frequent the park when I went probably 4-5 year old dog, super sweet but also super submissive like you describe.
Rpatrick is correct. Very controlled, short and sweet, butt to face meetings, over and over again. It’s going to take time and planning, but it’s literally the only way.
super dog! he's like so "thanks for telling me how to be Joel. i had to make it up on my own and kept getting it wrong or something, no idea, yet no one else told me what to do, so i had to take over and just make it work"
If you want to be all of your dog's life, be prepared to center your life around them. It's a selfish position to not let them develop their own abilities to interact with others of their own species. It's a bit like never letting your kids suffer the consequences of bad behavior with other kids.
I’m not sure if you brought up resource guarding or making sure the dog has an appropriate outlet and mental and physical stimulation Are those typically ever brought up with the owner to make adjustments there or is it mostly forcing the dog to comply and not actually working the dog through the process? I completely understand and get where you’re coming from but it seems like there’s a lot of additional stress on the other dogs that you do use and while it’s good to use other dogs, it seems counterintuitive a lot of other things need to be fixed first The fact that guarding and other things haven’t come up in this assessment that didn’t get caught is concerning. How do these dogs typically do once they go home? And at the 1043 mark, you’re saying he’s better but he’s displacing a lot of stress signals and avoidance so how old does that help the dog learn if they’re in that state of mind? And when chaotic and things aren’t explained to the owners then how are things supposed to progress?
I don't get the praise for Prince, that was a little much. I wouldn't consider that a good reaction from my dog, especially as a trainer, that would escalate to a full blown fight if the other dog didn't back down. Prince did not back off but stayed alert with ears forward. after the other dog retreated.
Let's be fair, they brought the dog in for help. Not everyone is as in tune with strange behavior as people that watch these videos. They did good by bringing their dog in. They're learning
Bet they're retired and decided to get a dog. There's a lot of them where I am and their dogs are a mess. Won't let their dogs meet other dogs. My two Australian Terriers went up to a dog to say hello and a butt sniff and the owners started hitting my dogs! Suffice to say they were angrily warned
no hate to these people, i'm positive they both adore that dog to pieces and treat him well. but something about their body language irritates me, they seem so passive. wish they'd put a little more energy into the exercises, everything seemed a bit halfhearted? maybe it was emotions getting involved. i wish those types of people understood how happy dogs are when theyre treated like dogs and not so mentally pampered. edit: being an aussie probably has something to do with it, not the best breed for such passive owners. can be a bit neurotic without a lot of exercise and social stimulation
These seem like positive traits for a dog bred for protection. The dog aims to protect his masters. Why do you have such a strong desire for him to get along with other dogs. If he just ignores them, that would be my goal. He doesn’t need to be their friend, just not engage.
![NLE Choppa - Or What ft. 41 (Orchestra Mix) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/biOFASEgSOM/mqdefault.jpg)
These owners were some of my favorite people, we laughed and had fun. They’re also amazing dog owners. As I’ve talked about before, the people are not always the problem just like the dog isn’t always the problem. In this case the closeness of the family is the problem. The dog wants to be with these people because they’re good people to be with. They need to do “circle of trust” method, over and over or outsource the making friends process to me or someone else then bring them back in the mix.
Absolutely fantastic! Great for the owners to trust both you and Prince. Joel, I definitely saw some resource guarding on this dog’s part. There’s this moment after the dog was corrected, everyone is in the field, you were playing/engaging with Prince and the dog looked at you and went straight to the husband’s side while keeping his eyes on you & Prince. The dog did not turn his back on you & let “his guard down” and play with his owner. When a dog runs to your side, as an owner this can seem heartwarming, oh my dog loves me and wants to be by my side, but the dog could be resource guarding. I see this play out in my own home. I have two teenage dogs (wasn’t going to get the second until the first was past the Teen Stage, but the pup had to be rehomed). Yes jealousy does take place in & between dogs. Dogs can exhibit different emotions, jealousy, dominance, insecurity, bullying, that leads to resource guarding, etc. We can see that “Big Dogging Effect” in older siblings to younger sibs where they snatch something from the younger sibling, or physically be too rough during play. My Mal Mix is 2 months older & 5x size of Mini Mix and will snatch what the Mini Mix has (food, treat or ball). You can’t take someone else’s things can be tough to teach. I think the dog went after Prince due to both resource guarding & trying to establish dominance, and Prince sent a clear message you are not going to dominate me, and be Alpha here.
Yes, I don’t think we should use our own dogs in training. They get two powerful or they get burnt out.
I have a desexed female border collie 9mth old very similar temperament to this aussie. She doesn't seem to want friends and snaps at other dogs if they come towards us. This has given us some ideas in how to minimise her outbursts.
@beckmans where rpatrick ????? Slack
@@TheWacklernow, now. You know better than that. C'mon. He 📌'd his own comment for good reason. Defending the owners of the dog from getting unfairly trashed in the comments. I did my normal thing, don't blame us cuz you were late to the party 😂
I admire that the owners didn't react when Prince corrected their dog. As loud and frantic as it appeared, they didn't freak out and baby their dog. Looks like they did their research and trusted that Prince wasn't going to hurt their dog.
I assume they already knew how these session and Prince work. 🙂 But probably it was still difficul not to react. That's why they froze a bit, when it happened, instead of correcting Simba.
It seemed he was treating the owners very delicately.
Watching Prince kick the shit out of other dogs has weirdly become my favourite way to unwind after work.
😂
Hahah. More just like mom’s shoe to the back of the head from across the room for cussing.
Check the old videos with Bosco (rip) he was the Boss!!
I’m a dog groomer and it’s also very cathartic to me, as I work in a corporate salon and deal with many unruly/unmannered dogs 😂
I enjoy the direct truth of poor socialization being rightly modeled by a balanced Alpha. It's so uncommon now in human relations today.
I love the dog psychology in these videos. There's so much you can get from a dog's body language alone
I really appreciate you showing how Prince corrected another dog. It may be noisy but it is how one dog corrects another.
Yeah, I'm not sure I would have stepped in so quickly. 😊
As always, your content is incredibly informative. We have a 9-month-old Australian Shepherd, so this video was particularly interesting to me. We're 'a little bit' stricter with our four-legged friend, as he can be stubborn and occasionally seems deaf to commands. Still, most of the time, he’s a good boy who listens well. Every week seems to bring new challenges, which can be frustrating-but that’s life with a teenager. Last week, he suddenly started barking at random dogs on the street, so we corrected him, and today there were no issues at all.
We've been watching your videos for a year now, and they’ve been a huge help, especially as first-time dog owners facing many moments of doubt. It’s a journey, and with so much information online, it was tough to figure out what would work best. We’re really grateful for all the advice you share.
Look up this channel's "age appropriateness" vids. He says 9 months is the worst age of dog ownership.
Yes, the Teenager Stage is tough, when they know what to do, but choose not to do it or do naughty behavior they haven’t done before.
hes entered the veloceraptor phase! hang in there, they mellow again at 18mo. keep the discipline, training, up consistently with daily routines if you can so he/she remains confident of her pack. our main routine is '8 is crate' - watch his focus get between the thing he/she gets focused on always.
met joel at kahoots once about one of our young 6-7mo stubborn aussies and he showed me the alternate touching/correcting method and age appropriate training. it was a life saver. she is now winning sheep herding competitions at 2.5 years. would have probably ruined her if we didnt understand what joel shared. he is the goat
I've noticed that most Corso's getting rehomed are about 10months - the owners say they have "no time". There is light at the end of the tunnel - If you work through the tiresome teens, they're completely different and very sensible by 2 years. Unbelievable that they're just left alone all day, given no training and watch Netflix every evening, never leaving the property.
0:12 You are not aloooone, your nervous dog is always here with yooouuu.
0:38 The Aussie/Collie dog sees the Kraken and wants the smoke!
0:52 The Separation method
1:31 Joel starts explaining whats going on to the owners just so he can bust out his sweet Robot dance moves
2:13 Dog training commercial
2:22 Dad saying Hi to another dog sets off Simba
2:46 The BUTT-FACE method
3:06 Asking real world questions to get to the *bottom* of things
3:18 Joel reenacts how exactly the meeting went
3:36 Holding dogs against their will so butts can be smelled
5:09 Separating Simba from Mommy and Daddy
5:44 *Half-assed Slo-mo freak out* Simba cant have new friends because hes too attached to his Hoomans
6:25 Simba acts outta picket and then gets his reinforcement from the othwr dog going away and reclaiming his Throne between the King and Queen. Little does he know hes not the real Prince....
6:53 Joel explains the "Out of the cricle of trust method" very eloquently then calls their dog a jerk
8:17 Joel lets Simba off leash and ...
8:23 IT was at this moment Simba knew he'd F*UCK'D up
9:00 Joel briefly makes out with Prince to reinforce that stopping the arse whoopin' was a good thing
9:29 the dog CANNOT pair in his mind that acting a fool gets him reinforcement. Shun him!
10:16 Joel doesn't like when dogs step on his new kicks
12:07 Joel warns Simba to keep his herding instincts in check as he lets the Real Prince out
12:25 *The proof is IN the PUDDING!* Simba and his owners wander around in the pasture with Prince loose.
Robot moves, lol
These time stamps are freaking hilarious man!!!🤣🤣🤣
It's the only thing keeping me here since Tuesdays Gone 😢😂
lol robot moves
Pahahah 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Only thing better than these videos is the clips with your sweet analysis! 👍😎
Your presentation and teaching is ace! So informative, content rich, and to-the-point. Very interesting commentary on options of what should have happened and why it didn't - a lesser "expert" wouldn't have your confidence and nonchalance at self-critiquing or saying, 'I don't know exactly'! GOAT
Yes exactly. That’s why we love Joel! ❤
It looks like he’s really hurting him he’s not, just putting him in his place
The dog doesn't have a proper job so he thinks his only job is to guard his owners.
yep.
yep, farm dog living a suburban life. I feel bad for the Aussie, He would probably be wonderful on sheep or cattle, but here he is just called a bad boy.
@youtubeKathy He was just really doing his job, but if he was with a proper family who got him out doing more and socializing more with other dogs, he wouldn't be as bad. Aussies, though, are very protective of their owners because they do see them as their " livestock" to protect. As a dog Walkers, I had a wonderful Aussie who was great until I got home with her Mom and then she became very protective. She would never bite but I had a hard time getting her to leave the home when her Mom was there.
@@melodieramsay655 sounds like you walked my Aussie. Was her name “Piper”?😄😄😄😄
The herding drive us really strong. Even in my wonderful collie-Aussie mix,
She had much energy in her as a youth. I jogged with her in the mornings, we took her to the dog park. But the day I took her to a herding instinct test on some sheep, she had this aura of deep inner calm and life purpose that evening.
beautiful
Two major things I got out of this: 1) After his primary strength of outstanding understanding of dog behavior, Joel's second huge strength is how well he communicates. He can explain everything in a way that people can relate to and use right away. 2) Even the best trainer is not always perfect, BUT the best trainer knows when he's slipped and knows how to correct the problem anyway.
Thanks for not treating dogs as people. They are animals, too many problems with folks babying their dogs
To be fair humans are also animals
The biggest problem without generalizing like that is that we, as humans have not taken the time to read their language they don’t understand our language, and we have not taken the time to understand theirs. Therefore, we are the problem. We set them up for failure in our energy, have you ever watched Cesar Millan, makes them fail in most cases.
💯💯🎯🎯
Fully agree!
@@frbrbrgrblgrr7777and dogs are not humans and for their sake can never be treated as one
Wow you can see how much the dogs watch human body language. Great job
Thank you!! Dogs being dogs
So often - even with the most caring owners - it’s the human to dog relationship that’s the problem. Correct, treat your dog like a DOG, and all will be well.
When we include our dog into our realm as an equal human - it confuses the heck out of them.
Good job to these owners… you’re up against a whole lot of mixed up human/dog societal pressure that we all live in today.
Agreed. People don't know how to communicate with their dog effectively. Fortunately, I learned a ton from this channel.
A woman invited my dog to her out-of-control animal's birthday party to wear little hats and eat cake with a crowd of strange dogs. Don't know if any of the partygoers were eaten.
They care about their dog. But the way they treat that dog is almost like abuse.
Not many understand what "like a dog" even means. Sadly my sister has a powerful dog that growls at her. It makes me wanna kick both of them. Her more so. I no longer bring my dogs around them. 😢 I miss my sister.
Another great video! I like your discussion around displacement. That was something I had a hard time explaining to my elderly in-laws (they have an out of control pitbull and coonhound). I’ll be sharing this video with them!
👏💥👏 Thanks for the reminder to keep our dogs excited to respectfully meet others outside of our immediate family!
Brilliant, I enjoy and learn so much by watching your videos.
Interesting how Simba kept working them, going back/forth between them, almost as if to try to communicate that his herd needed to be back together in one group. And almost looked like he needed a bigger bite of aw-chit-sammich after bulldozing into Prince like that. Nice folks, overall looks like a nice dog, just needs to learn how to expand his social bubble a bit.
Yup. He was looking for some sort of reinforcement and sense of security and had to figure out that the new way wasn't all that bad. He'll figure it out if they keep up the work. That's a smart dog just needed a little different direction
@@rptrick79chances are any lessons learned go out the window in a few days when the owners' habits and ease of doing nothing take over.
@@Texas240 that's a possibility but there's also the possibility that since they brought their dog to Joel for help and now have some guidance, saw how things changed that they'll continue because they like the results they saw in such a short time frame. Both hypotheticals but let's give them the benefit of the doubt because at the end of the day we all watch these videos because we like and care for dogs and wish them to be as happy and fulfilled in their short lives as possible.
He's a really beautiful dog
The Aussie is totally owning the 2 of them - they are his property. It's not healthy at all because the owners are his property that he's guarding, which is his natural instinct, but they need to let him know that they don't need his protection. You can see that the dog looks like he's almost sitting on the husband's feet.
Having a small daycare/indoor boarding business, I always notice how much better dogs behave when their owners aren’t around.
I came to watch Prince do his thing. What a great dog. Nothing better than watching the pro himself correct another dog.
Awesome video. Fascinating. Thank you. Some musings: herding breeds are sight focussed more than any other sense. They are very aware of their surroundings so can get overstimulated easily. Also the time between seeing & acting is often non-existent. I suggest a dogs herding nature makes it want to control its environment (or maybe the other way around? - this stuff is fascinating!). So I see a dog that is pre-occupied with controlling the vicinity of its owners for both resource guarding & protective reasons. And it’s generally not confident with other dogs (making it all worse). Thanks again Joel. looking forward to the next video!
Great video as always- miss the pod though. Hope all well with you! family first!
Prince should be paid about $120,000 per year !
Well done Prince
that dog was a selfish entitled jerk who FAFO'ed 😂🤣😂
Very good and informative video, well as always. Off topic question.. Have you ever thought of making a `How are they now` video of former clients.
It's great watching Prince do his thing and hold court.
I had a German Shepherd once upon a time named Leo and Prince really reminds of him. I worked in a small office and took the Shepherd to work most days and we would usually hit the dog park on the way home (like 3 or 4 days a week) so he was very well socialized and he had to check a few dogs there. We worked with a trainer so he was well squared away but thw first time I saw him correct another dog I was alarmed and thought it was gonna get bad but he knew what he was doing better than I did and he got the dog to quickly fall in line amd everyone was chill. It only happened a few times and the other owners were either cool about it or stopped coming which was fine cuz Leo only checked dogs that were being very uncool. I'd never seen anything like that until Prince here and my subsequent shepherds have not been like this either.
Prince is a very special and rare dog.
😂😂😂😂 holy shit love the thumbnail Joel/eric
I've seen so many Australian Shepherds in the US with aggression issues.
Never seen this once in Australia. It's very strange.
Maybe the dog picks up on a different society/type of people?🤔
Because people in the USA barely train their dog.
@@danabreakforest1688 Can you back your statement up?
Aussies need a job.
Shitty owners. I see the same thing. Then they dump the dog at a shelter because they are out of control.
He was a tough pup for sure.
Definitely obsessed with the owners. The method you're using i think would definitely work with the owners playing their part over time but they gotta get way tougher on him.
They have 0 toughness with him.
way
Prince gave that dog the correction good and puted that dog in his place
Yeah I’m sure you would have an interesting go with my two dogs (PinChi’s). I made the mistake of letting my husband take them on more solo walks without me during their first 2 yrs which made them unlearn everything that I had taught them. I found out that he enjoyed seeing them go crazy when other dogs would come near them. 😑😮💨.
I have gotten on him so much about just letting them do what they want and never correcting them. I feel like it’s so hard to get them to stop now that they are 3yrs old going on 4. I won’t give up.
This video was pretty good. I will for sure have to break the bond that they have with each other because one of them is more triggered by the actions of the other one. They spend way too much time together, it has made them into a very toxic pair of pups.
Would love to learn more about dog on dog correction. Some people freak out and think its an attack, but when you slow-mo you can see that there isnt actually any real biting going on
the issue is that some dogs go overboard with the correction. my dog went to sniff another dog in a friendly way once...well i guess the dog felt that rolling him on to his back and biting his throat was an acceptable way to say ¨im not interested¨ .
If you look up keyush sherpa compilation, they have their teeth on each other in expressions that look vicious.... While they're playing.
@@angelinacamacho8575 Thats not what prince was doing though. Your experience does sound a bit weird. Most corrections ive seen are specifically shoulder to shoulder shoving and side “nipping” the shoulder neck area.
He is on high alert status, the panting, tail poition and looking around. Sometimes these dogs are so connected to their owners that they get a brain lock about just being a dog. Aussies can be a little tricky in this way. Just my two cents.
Plus with the „cute Merle“ coat chances are it is rather a specimen bred for fashionable coat color rather than good genetics or mind set
@@rosablume4346there's something to this. I notice it a lot too but my neighbors have a standard tricolor and it's very.much the same. I'll probably send this video to them.
@rosablume4346 uh huh. And where did you pull that info from. Merle genes do not have an affect on behavior, good responsible breeding does. Aussies got the merle gene from one of their founding breeds carea leones. What does screw up the breed is when people breed mass breed them as show, minis, and toys for looks.
Oh buddy! Those first few seconds are gonna get some panties in a twist for sure...😂
Can I just say what an amazing dog Prince is
08:28 >> The exact moment Prince taught that dog a lesson in manors it will never be able to learn again in a lifetime. ❤❤
Joel likes talking so much he talks over himself
😂
I know the "parents" are trying but they keep giving reinforcement by giving eye contact to the dog.
Hey Joel, great content! I was just checking out your site links. They do not seem to be connected properly.
Fixed it
👉I know many love Aus Shepherds but I've been bitten by 2 separate ones who weren't all there but now I see it's untrained/under worked herding instinct!
Excellent video!!
An excellent example of why "mothering/babying" a dog is a terrible practice. Dogs are NOT substitute beings for a loss or a "gap" in the owners life. Dogs do NOT behave, process or comprehend the complexities of human beings.
I'm always impressed with Joel and Prince, especially when Prince does his "thing"!!
#AWESOME ❤❤
5:54 Joel could stop an elephant with that stare.
Well done prince that got what he wanted
Thats one good looking Aussie.
At 8:22 before the dog even fully passed behind Joel he was locked in and literally bearing teeth at prince who was 10-15 feet away so that’s interesting. He was watching prince and as I interpret not happy prince was roaming while you were talking before hand and he was laying between his parents. He did go for prince’s rear which could be herding or also like an enforcer type attack. Anyway. Prince wasn’t having it and although prince wanted to try again when Joel was holding the collar it’s amazing how prince lets things go and also is really just correcting and not actually biting these dogs when these scuffles happen. I hope this shepherd can learn to chill a little. He’s def his peoples dog!
My parents always had collies and they can be quite snappy, I think because the collie went for Prince in his own home, Prince wasn’t having any of that, quite rightly so.
I love your videos❤❤❤
Prince had to check him because the owners won’t…
So for a dog like this; since just from observed body language between people and dog it seems like they spend every waking moment together and never apart, would it be beneficial to do work for separation anxiety? Like crate training to get them used to being by themselves and that they don't need to be up the owners rear end all the time? Then with walks, 1 person at a time to work on those in the moment corrections so its not like the kid going to mom because she will give a different answer in the moment when dad has just grounded them?
Nice correction prince
Oh boy, humans are so hard to teach...great directions!
I avoid blue merle Aussies at the park now especially intact ones. They are too crazy for my kangal. He has to correct them. Just like prince.
ironically enough his best friend is another Aussie. 😅
to be fair they probably look like wolves and kengals are livestock guard dogs bred to take them down to protect their family an flock.
@@angelinacamacho8575One of his best friends at the park is a large male wolf dog that he befriended as an adult. It’s something about how this breed acts that ticks off a lot of dogs. It must be how the owner handles them since my guy’s bestie is a solid dark grey Aussie but fixed. His friend randomly went after him the tiniest bit and my friend fixed his Aussie the next week.
Fascinating video.
11:50 even though the owner has the lead Simba is looking at Joel for instructions.
The bugs are ok. Still basically flawless and genius video. Don't bother to fix the errors
that was no herding instinct. that was an i am a big dog butt kicking attempt on prince and lost, like he should have lost, prince read it exactly right. have austrailian shepherds and know their language fairly good now.
One of the most interesting videos
very interesting session
Always a toxic relationship behind a neurotic dog sadly.
I don't see anything toxic. He's a good dog with his family and if they weren't trying to take him places, they'd be fine. He's happy with his people and if anyone with nefarious intentions shows up, he's going to notice and protect them. His natural instinct is to do what he's doing.
@@Texas240 you dont see it because you don’t know what you’re looking at. A dog in a healthy relationship doesn’t act like that. You mistake insecurity and resource guarding for “protectiveness “.
@@OffGridDogs you're not understanding that at home, he's not displaying those behaviors because there's no opportunity or need and at home, the "resource" he's guarding is his people and his territory. If they weren't trying to take him places, he'd be totally fine. Going places isn't natural to dogs. If they had worked more on basic obedience before trying to take the dog out in public to busy, distracting places with lots of things, aka people, "out of place" (herding dog), then the dog would be more focused on looking to them for what to do instead of trying to decide what needs to be done.
@@Texas240 lol going places is not natural for dogs? You don’t even know what a dog is.
@@OffGridDogs now, you're just projecting.
Joel I respect your option so much , I’ve heard you say prince is not fixed, my now 10 month old Malinois is not fixed. I’m so confused about fixing or not. I don’t want to breed I don’t want a crazy dog , I’m just not educated on this matter . People just always do it like we’re suppose to. I neutered my lab when she was young she lived for 15 years but maybe I was just lucky? Do you have options on this that could be helpful for me.
Thank you
Cricket
Read up on a study done by UC Davis using over 700 Golden Retrievers Feb 13th 2013. University of California Davis is over 100 years old and has a vet training program. The study results are clear on neutering and spaying. Also watch a youtube video by Dr Becker: "The truth about spaying and neutering".
This was really interesting to Watch. I also have an aussie and he is Nice to other dogs when we meet them calmly. But when he tries to Play with them his herding Instinct Kicks in and he Ruins the fun for the other dogs.
Beautiful shepherd! Prince is THEE BOSS! We have a blue merle shepherd similar to this one and, watching this....that behavior is so typical of an Aussie. They don't call them Aussholes for nothing!
He just kneed that collie, that's exactly what he tried to pull down caesar milan with saying it was a bad way to train a dog.
I just feel like all aussies I know are like this 😬
My dog checked a dog that was bugging without aggression twice before going beast mode. The parent of the other dog got in middle of it while the dogs were dealing with it themselves. He turned around and kicked my dog. I made them get off my property
5:19 the other dog was the problem though and started it and deserved to get scared (get a proper correction for impolite meeting). Prince later did nothing wrong and did the right thing by correcting the Aussie. The Golden Retriever is friendly, sure but not balanced and as seen in the scene before hyper active and over the top, not cqlm at all and just like most Retrievers he has no manners and just gets into your face. That's something every normal dog doesn't like and considers to be impolite and if not well socialized could see as threat so the Australian Shepherd just went defensive mode. Since there are way too many dogs like thise Retrievers, the Australian Shepherd needs to learn that it's no threat to him or his family but it was still the other dog starting it.
Both my dogs (Akita and white GSD) hate this behaviour too but they trust and respect me and know I handle it for them and thus stay calm. Just today I had a super tiny Jack Russel pass us (off-leash in a on-leash zone) with my dogs calm and in heel. A few inches besides us he rushed insane like a berserk , snarling and barking torwards my dogs. They luckily are well behaved so I could block that little sh**. That stupid owner didn't even apologize. If I wouldn't have trained my dogs so well, that little thing would be dead by now 🤷🏼♀️ he came so close, my dogs could've grabbed it even if I held the leashes as short as possible. Anyway, it's important to teach your dog to tolreate even situations he considers to be impolite or even a threat.
Hi, can someone tell me what kind of leash the Aussie is wearing? I have an Aussie with very similar behaviour
Nice owners for sure, but the gentleman seems physically unable to avoid looking down at or interacting with his dog for more than .5 seconds 😅
The couple kept doing what you tell them over and over not to do. Even separating they keep looking and acknowledging their dog. You got some people who don’t understand words well.😂
Good boy Princey!❤
So my collie mcnab is exhibiting these kind of random lunge and outburst freak outs and it’s no doubt for the same reason as this couple. My question is, have always tried to correct him, but it backfires and he thinks im encouraging it, or giving him the attention, etc. could you give a link or more videos showing example of displacement, the body mechanics, and maybe talk about how to avoid doing the behaviours that are contributing to my mcnabs’ growing protection and jealousy problem of sharing me with mostly humans but also now he’s beginning to show with some dogs at park as well.
He's herding them 😊
What a beautiful Aussie
If the other man & the woman are the owners of the Australian Shepherd…say no more.
What did you expect?
Besides the content of the video. He is a beautiful Aussie
Is it true there is no licensing or required training/testing to become a dog trainer?
Other dog bit Prince in the hind before Prince bites
he chest slammed him. aussie calling card.
This is likely my issue with our doodle. Previously the gentlest most friendly dog, he’s still great with humans and dog friends. BUT he’s become leash reactive toward other dogs when I walk him. Not the same if my wife walks him - so I think he’s over bonded to me.
There are Soundproblems at the end but good video
I've seen this play out with a collie dog, of all the breeds they seem to be more aggressive in my opinion, in from the UK so I'm very used to Welsh collie, or border collie, rough coat collie, what ever name they go by....
They are so do do intelligent, of all the breeds I find them amazing the way they actually stalk ,it's usually only seen in Cats...
I agree it's common sense really with dog keeping, but people especially nowadays especially Americans love humanising their pets. Dressing them in clothes, barely exercising them god knows why they think it's okay for a young mum of 3 to have a malamute then whack the heating right up when it gets cold huskies would rather sleep in the yard covered in snow..
It's absolutely the owners fault when it goes tits up, rarely the dogs, ...
How do I make my submissive and a bit scared golden retriever like dogs? How do I introduce them correctly? We can go into a dog park and he whines and his tail is wagging and he’s all excited, but when we get to other dogs and ESPECIALLY when we let him off leash he gets REALLY submissive and almost scared, he’s usually great on leash, but scared off leash, he has been rushed once before and possibly bit but we couldn’t see a bite mark, and he was almost rushed (on leash) by an aggressive border collie that was off leash. Luckily it didn’t reach him as me and my dad stepped in the way.
But back to the question. Do you know how to make my dog more comfortable and confident around other dogs? x
Exposure, good interactions with other dogs. He doesn't need to meet every dog btw. Statistically speaking, the more good meetings your dog has the more he should be comfortable but you also run the risk of a bad interaction and making things worse. Maybe you've just got a very timid dog, try building confidence with obedience, play any other activities that don't necessarily have to involve another dog right there in the mix.
@@rptrick79 I’ve tried, he knows a lot of tricks and loves doing them, he has gotten a little bit better but he’s still VERY submissive when it comes to dogs. I’m not sure why either because as a puppy he loved dogs and never really had a bad experience for all I know at least. Right now we’re doing nosework so maybe that’ll boost his confidence a bit. But I do believe that good interactions would be great, I’m scared of it making it worse tho by a bad interaction x
@@emlaux_art pick and choose the interaction with new dogs for sure but I would put my energy in other places with just training and having fun.
It may be somewhat genetic, there's a runt of a GOlden that used to frequent the park when I went probably 4-5 year old dog, super sweet but also super submissive like you describe.
Rpatrick is correct. Very controlled, short and sweet, butt to face meetings, over and over again. It’s going to take time and planning, but it’s literally the only way.
@@BDTraining okay thank you 🤍
super dog! he's like so "thanks for telling me how to be Joel. i had to make it up on my own and kept getting it wrong or something, no idea, yet no one else told me what to do, so i had to take over and just make it work"
Trabalho fantástico
What happens when you have a small dog about 9lbs..?
It poops smaller turds?
“Small person syndrome”!!!
Dog's owners are not it's mom & dad!
The links for the programs don't work
Should work now
Those links don't seem to work
What links? If you're referring to his 2 training classes you're supposed to email to inquire about them.
Joel said he fixed them and should work now
If you want to be all of your dog's life, be prepared to center your life around them. It's a selfish position to not let them develop their own abilities to interact with others of their own species. It's a bit like never letting your kids suffer the consequences of bad behavior with other kids.
I heard you talking about another dog named basco?
Prince was a prince, I think some other dogs might have hurt him for real
This is my mini Aussie female except her problem is people not other dogs.
Does the dog know why his leash is popped….? No
I’m not sure if you brought up resource guarding or making sure the dog has an appropriate outlet and mental and physical stimulation
Are those typically ever brought up with the owner to make adjustments there or is it mostly forcing the dog to comply and not actually working the dog through the process?
I completely understand and get where you’re coming from but it seems like there’s a lot of additional stress on the other dogs that you do use and while it’s good to use other dogs, it seems counterintuitive a lot of other things need to be fixed first
The fact that guarding and other things haven’t come up in this assessment that didn’t get caught is concerning.
How do these dogs typically do once they go home?
And at the 1043 mark, you’re saying he’s better but he’s displacing a lot of stress signals and avoidance so how old does that help the dog learn if they’re in that state of mind? And when chaotic and things aren’t explained to the owners then how are things supposed to progress?
I don't get the praise for Prince, that was a little much. I wouldn't consider that a good reaction from my dog, especially as a trainer, that would escalate to a full blown fight if the other dog didn't back down. Prince did not back off but stayed alert with ears forward. after the other dog retreated.
These owners are clueless
Let's be fair, they brought the dog in for help. Not everyone is as in tune with strange behavior as people that watch these videos. They did good by bringing their dog in. They're learning
Bet they're retired and decided to get a dog. There's a lot of them where I am and their dogs are a mess. Won't let their dogs meet other dogs. My two Australian Terriers went up to a dog to say hello and a butt sniff and the owners started hitting my dogs! Suffice to say they were angrily warned
@@rptrick79 Agreed, and they're no more clueless than the vast majority of American dog owners.
no hate to these people, i'm positive they both adore that dog to pieces and treat him well. but something about their body language irritates me, they seem so passive. wish they'd put a little more energy into the exercises, everything seemed a bit halfhearted? maybe it was emotions getting involved. i wish those types of people understood how happy dogs are when theyre treated like dogs and not so mentally pampered.
edit: being an aussie probably has something to do with it, not the best breed for such passive owners. can be a bit neurotic without a lot of exercise and social stimulation
Is that a Pyrenees?
These seem like positive traits for a dog bred for protection.
The dog aims to protect his masters. Why do you have such a strong desire for him to get along with other dogs. If he just ignores them, that would be my goal. He doesn’t need to be their friend, just not engage.
What the owners want is what matters the most
Imo, that's all herding instinct + lack of herding training and socialization. They have a farm dog living in an urban life.