and that’s why professors that use lessons to generate meaningful discussions enabling this type of thinking are usually the most loved and remembered ones
From personal experience, I believe having convenient access to a public library in my formative years helped me to develop skills to take the perspective of others, whose experiences would not have been my own and may never be. General curiosity and free access to information, I believe, go a long way.
@@AAL3087honestly? Fiction! I read so many books from different time periods and different perspectives, which deeply enriched and perhaps saved my life. Parents and teachers can only do so much. TV is so profit-driven (I watched a lot of TV too, lol) that you're only going to get a narrow, "marketable" perspective on the world, whereas books can take you Anywhere and give you an Experience of someone else's perspective! So cool 🥰!!
So you're saying that encouraging abstract thinking in the context of relating to other people is the key to humans reaching their full potential. Interesting how people can intuitively know this for thousands of years, even though it's never been taught in schools. And even more interesting it took us thousands of years to acknowledge it as a group.
In the current public school system, where the LEAST effective (reading comprehension 10%ish) method has been upheld - as Ai comes into the picture… I feel like this moment in time is an example of ‘Acceptable De-Evolution’. Alpha’s or Beta’s - I truly wish you better luck than Gen X. We had the world at our fingertips-despite a SAD education…and then, we did something else 📱💊🚬🚀
It didn’t take thousands of years. People have always known this. Millions of people. In western society it’s just not taught in the curriculum but is all changing in next 10 years.
@@Kenzo-ye3oj I was kind of hinting at the fact it's been known, but not taught, all this time. I'm sure there are cultures here and there that practice it, but I don't think any of the most politically active countries do right now. Suppression has been around longer than school
Schooling as we know it today is only a few hundred years old at best, but people have been thinking this way and teaching this throughout the world’s religions at least since history began being recorded.
Gist of the video: If the educational system helps kids think about the world they live in and what kind of world they would like to live in - that's a good education.
Good stuff. Totally agree. Just not sure that the classroom is capable of teaching what you’re getting at, by its very sterile nature. Consider what a social bubble even a college is. It tends towards idealist echo chambers. All education that is not hands on is by definition “abstract,” from the real world. Im a self employed technician, I take my 11year old to work with me and show him how do what I do from top to bottom and work with customers. It’s like an old school apprenticeship. He probably won’t stay in my field, but modeling personal integrity while a messy and uncomfortable world pushes back, is a lesson he will carry in his bones where ever he goes. Most parents don’t have this opportunity, but if you can, it’s amazing for both of you.
I love that you brought up apprenticeships. Many skilled craftsmen learned this way in the past with excellent results in quality. Those structures built are still standing, and are still beautiful. Sadly, we don't see that level of quality anymore because people are just sent out into the field doing one thing without understanding the purpose of it. There is a certain pride and confidence gained in working and learning with a pro.
Learning what to do before you go do it isnt abstract...its learning. Kids do it all the time, one way they learn is by observing what others do around them and the resulting consequences from those actions. they see the results being something good, then they mimic the behavior. I think youre confusing theoretical and abstract; most of education is theoretic in the sense it can only be applied in given moments in certain situations - and thats ONLY if the person learning this information isnt internalizing it as to apply it in life, outside of that specific context, which is what most people do. We Integrate new knowledge into existing information to grow and develop. Yes, working hands on and learning as an apprentice is very valuable in itself (btw, that's what its like in a PhD program), but education is not an idealist each chamber. Id argue its harder to find more people who agree with the higher you go up.
@@ryghtiousfrazier2928 I agree with everything you’re saying, particularly bringing in the word “Theoretical” Theoretical is at far left end of the continuum, with the far right being hands on reality. The degrees in between represent levels of abstraction that Im talking about. 1. **Highly Abstract (Theoretical)** - Pure concepts, theories, and principles with no direct physical manifestation. - Examples: Mathematical theories, philosophical ideas, theoretical physics. 2. **Abstract Models and Representations** - Simplified or generalized versions of reality that help to explain or predict phenomena. - Examples: Scientific models, abstract art, economic models. 3. **Conceptual Frameworks and Diagrams** - Visual or logical structures that organize and simplify complex information. - Examples: Flowcharts, organizational charts, conceptual maps. 4. **Applied Theory** - The practical application of theoretical knowledge to real-world problems. - Examples: Engineering designs, software algorithms, educational strategies. 5. **Experiential Learning and Simulations** - Activities that mimic real-world scenarios to provide practical experience. - Examples: Laboratory experiments, role-playing exercises, virtual simulations. 6. **Hands-on Reality (Concrete)** - Direct interaction with physical objects and real-world environments. - Examples: Building a prototype, conducting fieldwork, performing surgery. This continuum illustrates how various activities and concepts can range from highly abstract to highly concrete, each serving different purposes in understanding and interacting with the world. I guess my emphasis, and the videos emphasis is to get to the hands on and the real world setting as quickly as possible.
I would say rigid parenting, punishment, dismissiveness, devils advocate, stressful tone of voice, bullying, genetic dispositions and other factors that create social difficulties will be inhibitors for this type of thinking and will interrupt the process in the brain for maximum growths in these areas.
High school still serves as a great place to learn who your peers are, who the bullies are, and experiment with how to deal with all your peers who will be your peers forever, because everywhere you go, people are very much the same.
@@gabrielsilvas692 good to hear. There’s been at least one in every single workplace I’ve experienced so far. Or if not, then someone who’ll take advantage of others.
I grew up in the Malaysian school system but I went to do the Ontario Secondary School Diploma for my A-Level equivalent. And I am so glad I did. The classes, such as global issues (in particular), history, economics and sociology, and even learning how to analyse texts and song lyrics through different lenses - all of the classes asked "what does this mean to you, what are the implications of this, how does that make you feel". Aside from this, the lecturers were really engaging and brought this out in the students with a lot of discourse and healthy debate. This might have been so successful in part because it was a private institution here in Malaysia, and I do not know if this is true for the public system back home in Ontario, but it was a magical place to learn that did SO MUCH for me in a way I had never previously experienced.
Great Video! Identifies the difference between quantitative learning (facts, procedures, and rote learning) and quantitative learning (values, purpose, ethics, and meaning). We need both, but Western education emphasizes the first group and devalues the second. If we want to nurture feeling and caring people, not just hyper- effecient automatons, a course correction in modern education is needed.
@@SamyagAjivaAjiva I respectfully submit that what you meant to say was "(for" not "(or". Additionally, what you day has to apply to 'the most good for the mosy people'. LOL i turned off autospell to be sure my concepts didn't get garbled.)
Well - when you think about it - you will realize the efficient automatons are much more useful and preferred for a minority oligarchy that wants to consolidate power. Of course, people hopefully will begin to take back their own power by realizing these things and self-educating.
Nope. We've been programmed against Christ, MINIMUM 1x/season EVERY SHOW we grew up upon, while having the new age, it's paganism, and Luciferian/NARCISSISM programming shoved upon us from EVERY ANGLE - entertainment, media, advertising, corporations and now even govt programs, especially in education. The results?? A "me FIRST 'cause I'ma god/goddess" society, rise in crime esp serial and mass killers, because it is a rise in EVIL INCARNATE. the OPPOSITE of so-called "enlightenment." What we need is God back in the schools, instead we have "After school Satan club" programs.
@@Paulina-br6tm rituals dont necessarily refer to religious ones, think about activities that make you feel part of a community as a whole, thats the point of the “rituals”, at the same time community and belonging are two things that are greatly missing in modern times
I need the link to the study. The data. There were way too many uncontrolled variables in the study it seems. Not trying to undermine their work. I am certain that these group of people are way more adept at this than I am, more so as a group. I also see value in their work but the study conclusion appears a bit stretched to me. So please, if anyone can share the link, I'd really appreciate. Thanks!
You know what happened when I typed her name into Google scholar? I stopped scrolling after 100 academic papers. Pubmed is another excellent place to search for scientific papers. I believe that the study you're wanting to read is here: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10943076/
So based on all this, I would really love to see these 40 documentaries mentioned at 3:20. Might also be useful for a friend of mine's troubled teen. If you agree, please like this comment so that the channel might respond and post some links. ❤
That’s why we need the stories of others - family, neighbors, community - in the development of young people. I will also say, in the healthy maintenance of ALL people. Stories of the recent and the far past are important connectors - laced with truth - to projections of the future. Unfortunately, those stories are now being fed by internet chaos and misinformation, creating communities of hyper individualized subjects, who conceive their truth as the only absolute truth. How do we remediate this?
Yeah I'm not sure I'm getting this video, maybe my IQ isn't as high as I thought. What I get is having young people think deeply on various issues causes them to grow brain matter and be happier even though they're working at a McDonald's, dreaming about being a pro football player, maybe for the rest of their lives.
What the video is saying is: when, instead of thinking about short-term things (survival, short-term pleasure), people think in long-term (aka, transcendental) about the thinga they really care, they tend to learn more and develop a sense of identity. As a consequrnce, they go for what they really want in life and tend to be happier with their life
@@Andreluiz-dp2ho No, that is a distortion of the message of the video. It doesn't speak about the benefit of thinking about "their world", even in the long term. It speaks about the benefit of thinking about the real world and how they fit into it, about social structure, about morals, etc. It never said they were thinking of their future or themselves...
I’m getting from the video that teaching high schoolers the smaller procedures, information and tasks and trying to force them to memorize these things, leads to less meaning and less satisfaction with their lives … but providing opportunities for teens to see a bigger picture, experience places and/or events that offer a bigger picture, produces young adults that are more satisfied about their life course and their relationships because they’ve developed more meaning for themselves. And now I’m trying to think about my favorite teachers and most valuable experiences from my life 14-18.
Thinking about and developing a purpose for your life leads to goal-directed behavior and more happiness. Working a menial job is more satisfying when it is experienced as part of a planned trajectory. Seeing and planning a personal development path is a first step of transcendence, transcending the moment/now to include the future. When you see how working toward the best for those close to you contributes to the future vision, that's a transcence of self-interest. Then, as you include more people, institutions, and groups into your vision, those are other transcending steps. Maybe you'll come to see all as one, maybe you won't. But I'd say that operationalizing any "all is one" revelation needs to start small and grow in this way. Otherwise, it just lives as a fantasy.
It’s newage. We are all connected. Therefore happiness = connection. Your consciousness, micro universe can connect with other similar systems such as algorithm on web or other people’s neuron based networks. Like mushrooms and roots of plants can communicate with each other under the soil.
I am not sure whether we consider the word trancendental or education to mean the same. Sure it makes sense to have activities that are related to identity, but that is not education. It is something that can coexist with it. I am not sure whether they refer to Kantian transcendence or something else, but the use of the word seems off. I imagine they somehow thought it made sense if they read teaching to transgress, but I feel like they just grabbed a word and repurposed it for something entirely different.
while i appreciate the observation i don't know that we want to promote/accelerate memory organization this way? its capacity to filter perception and introduce bias would indicate more caution than facilitation, right?
Our country(goverment) need to hear your perspective miss, i think what you explain is the very definition of what we called as "learning", somehow, what motivate every subject is always based on value, a moral compass that construct one ethic as core idea of their own self as person!? 🤔😅 Maybe that is the reason why story and their conflict are extremely important as "material" to build the emotional inclination toward life and their own narative as human!? 🤔 Every human will find their own self in the end... 😅 #thereisnounderstandingwithoutconflictthatmanagedbysincerityandhonesty... #justupidea... 😁👍
Critical thinking isn’t just for what’s read on paper- it has to come to 3d just like teaching from the Bible- you can’t just talk it, you literally have to walk it
Maybe are actually measuring here is that how people see themselves - mostly if they believe some of their capacities or not - they become biased to confirm AND that is, let's say "spiralisticly progressive", meaning that some small events can "butterfly effect" themselves into a self proclaiming unconscious prophecy. If you were loved, your works were praised by caretakers and your empathy exercised, your chances of developing anxiety, depression, heavy addiction and other set backing stuff are way lower. Also, revisiting the former argument, your good beliefs are going to spiralisticly progress to prove yourself as that. Thus, you can be totally average and still achieve a lot.
I've seen young geniuses that have fallen prey to their pride and egocentrism because of not only how it limited themselves to their perspective (which sometimes was, yes, way ahead of the others - but was still only their) but also because their self centering was socially repelling. Tbf, even some that were humble and respectful sometimes had such huge worlds to share that they couldn't fit into the echo chambers of average adolescence. Social anxiety, depression and addiction sometimes follow and the consequences are very limiting. Now, one curious thing: this all may be very cultural. Was this test in a country like Japan, it would probably have way different outcomes, as honor and respect are culturally incentivised, and probably whoever is smarter is (at least by a "bigger some" than not) socially praised for being so.
That rich person who after having to shake hands with a normy, who's offered purell by the servant as soon as they're back in the limo - how is it that they're not underdeveloped in this sense. They still know people and they still know stocks.
High school is still useful for filtering athletes into college sports and beyond. Because great raw athletes can still be found in public school and not always in pay to play sports like AAU. Edit: I suppose that’s why poor school put all their money into sports and only rich schools can offer cool opportunities for any subjects beyond sports.
So basically what she’s saying is raise your kids to be good people. Unfortunately that doesn’t happen with a lot of kids. A lot of bad environments kids are being raised in out there, it starts with someone at home making the right changes for kids.
A stable and supportive home environment is important but if I understand the video, what they're saying is that kids who were exposed to other perspectives and experiences, even vicariously through a documentary, and who were able to relate that to their own values and goals, developed higher level thinking skills. So providing your child a wide variety of experiences, both real and imagined, seems to be the key.
Abstract thinking, hmm! Or thinking about abstract concepts? Thinking about abstract concepts requires the neural network to use a lot of energy. The biochemistry of CRISPR technology; The mathematics and physics of Feynman diagrams, are mentally challenging. Abstract concepts, like the above mentioned, require a plethora of formal education, the ability to decipher empirical evidence, and a conceptual understanding of the Bayesian credence of such models. When engaged in a conversation about this sort of abstract concepts, one can see the eyes glaze over as neural networks go into energy savings mode. At the other extreme, Creativity is considered abstract thinking, especially in the artsy communities. Let the mind wander and out comes abstract art. Abstract art with, dare I say, only subjective value. Our advanced technological society is not based on abstract art. Our advanced technological society is based on James Clerk Maxwell’s equations. So when someone suggests that abstract thinking will make our planet a better place,… I suggest that it really depends! The abstract thinking, the creativity, that comes up with concepts like ‘Hell’ have been more destructive, rather than productive! In my substantiated research!
First rule of indoctrination is get them while they are young. The point of the classroom is for classism, puts you in your box. You exist as an exchange system of money. Do you remember when you gave up on who you are to become a debt slave? Make more money.
Most of this is the equivalent of science rediscovering what culture and religion were already doing for millenia of human history. The modern "Factory School" standardized child-rearing development environment of: 1. Sitting between four-walls most of the active day. 2. Being passive and sensory-deprived. 3. Listening to over-dose of literary low quality one-to-many linear instructions 4. Not engaging in multi-dimensional experiences eg using hands, engaging in diverse tasks with different people around the natural routine of the day attending to immediate needs apart from basic cognitive or academic learning (information and procedure as stated). Well what could possibly be wrong with that environment for children's development? Now add in broken-homes or dysfunctional family and community contexts where none or less of the missing above is offered in the lives as well due to atomized Western life-styles eg divorce is equivalent to a change in fashion of clothes choice looking at the stats. Well no surprise if the neuroscientists are beginning to question what all the above is doing to child development quality.
I am nowhere close to stupid, and I have a strong vocabulary; but for the life of me, I can't get a good handle on what she's saying. It's coming out a complex "word salad" for me. Maybe later, after a night's sleep.
Of course NOT! As autist my developing years as the present ones been on social isolation, like pandemic one but for life, aldough my default thinking pattern about things been deep always and about trascendental parts of life there is that disabling issue of life not getting where it was supposed to, in fact no any important goal been fulfilled, not being due to lack of academic preparation but social one, there comes the ‘social disabled’ concept.
Then you have the transcedental and boarder meaning thing that you care, wich the video says that makes people grows! It's overcoming this, the social disable, maybe creating paths for you and others who suffers the same. If you care about it, it matters, that is the path
I've found that religious worship also helps someone develop "transcendent thinking". School is not the only place where we are educated and can learn.
@@Goose_G.O.D Of course. We should develop an eagerness to learn from multiple different sources, including those that contradict our current thinking. Closing yourself off is the wrong approach.
i think this is just a study about social status nothing else sorry. For shure there has to be gradual build up for opurtunity in learning and engaging but that isnt given for everyone - that gradual learning is what can make the greatest minds no doubt
if one cant see the developmental path there might be to become a more desireable version of onese self by own standards than there cant be growth. And thats social differences that sets the landscape
She literally just said identity development and young adult life satisfaction is not related to iq and socioeconomic status but the ability to make meaning out of your life
You can make meaning out of your life no matter if you work at mcds, if you've gone through trauma, if you lack societal validation. On the other hand you can be a doctor, a lawyer, work at Google whatever and still lack meaning in your life
Class size & teacher’s skills + experience makes a big difference. Yet, to be effective matters of the intellect needs to connect with matters of the heart.
@@FrazzleDazzle9 that response seems a bit jumbled but from what I understand from it - I agree. But this person hasn’t seen a real classroom more than just observing like 60 kids in a while. It’s not applicable for most classroom environments I’ve been in.
@@person3728 yes, I should try not commenting on a complex subject whilst multitasking… just to add that ideally an effective teacher/facilitator usually would have the wherewithal/conditions to fully engage participants during th3 learning process, usually by asking incisive/exploratory questions - whatever the particular purpose or aim of the topic may be. It would be helpful if the prof expressed her concepts in a more simple terms. Specific examples may also provide more clarity to get her point across.
Our education system reminds me of how elephants in captivity are trained by humans. The calves are shackled in chains from an early age. They try helplessly for years to escape but eventually succumb to the belief that they're too weak to break free. A full-grown elephant can easily break their chains and run away, but they never try to break free as their beliefs are reinforced. Our education system serves the same purpose as those chains, a tool to enforce conformity or learned helplessness.
and that’s why professors that use lessons to generate meaningful discussions enabling this type of thinking are usually the most loved and remembered ones
Not really? Who likes class discussion except the dominant pupils?
So true!!
People learn better when they care about what they’re learning about.
Great point!
From personal experience, I believe having convenient access to a public library in my formative years helped me to develop skills to take the perspective of others, whose experiences would not have been my own and may never be. General curiosity and free access to information, I believe, go a long way.
What did you read?
@@AAL3087honestly? Fiction! I read so many books from different time periods and different perspectives, which deeply enriched and perhaps saved my life.
Parents and teachers can only do so much. TV is so profit-driven (I watched a lot of TV too, lol) that you're only going to get a narrow, "marketable" perspective on the world, whereas books can take you Anywhere and give you an Experience of someone else's perspective! So cool 🥰!!
Same. I read everything the library had. Lots of YA stories from other kids povs, biographies, philosophy once I reached HS.
So you're saying that encouraging abstract thinking in the context of relating to other people is the key to humans reaching their full potential. Interesting how people can intuitively know this for thousands of years, even though it's never been taught in schools. And even more interesting it took us thousands of years to acknowledge it as a group.
In the current public school system, where the LEAST effective (reading comprehension 10%ish) method has been upheld - as Ai comes into the picture…
I feel like this moment in time is an example of ‘Acceptable De-Evolution’. Alpha’s or Beta’s - I truly wish you better luck than Gen X. We had the world at our fingertips-despite a SAD education…and then, we did something else 📱💊🚬🚀
@@candrahollingsworth6313 I think I get what you're saying, but what does that have to do with what I said
It didn’t take thousands of years. People have always known this. Millions of people. In western society it’s just not taught in the curriculum but is all changing in next 10 years.
@@Kenzo-ye3oj I was kind of hinting at the fact it's been known, but not taught, all this time. I'm sure there are cultures here and there that practice it, but I don't think any of the most politically active countries do right now. Suppression has been around longer than school
Schooling as we know it today is only a few hundred years old at best, but people have been thinking this way and teaching this throughout the world’s religions at least since history began being recorded.
Gist of the video: If the educational system helps kids think about the world they live in and what kind of world they would like to live in - that's a good education.
Good stuff. Totally agree. Just not sure that the classroom is capable of teaching what you’re getting at, by its very sterile nature. Consider what a social bubble even a college is. It tends towards idealist echo chambers. All education that is not hands on is by definition “abstract,” from the real world. Im a self employed technician, I take my 11year old to work with me and show him how do what I do from top to bottom and work with customers. It’s like an old school apprenticeship. He probably won’t stay in my field, but modeling personal integrity while a messy and uncomfortable world pushes back, is a lesson he will carry in his bones where ever he goes. Most parents don’t have this opportunity, but if you can, it’s amazing for both of you.
I love that you brought up apprenticeships. Many skilled craftsmen learned this way in the past with excellent results in quality. Those structures built are still standing, and are still beautiful. Sadly, we don't see that level of quality anymore because people are just sent out into the field doing one thing without understanding the purpose of it. There is a certain pride and confidence gained in working and learning with a pro.
Learning what to do before you go do it isnt abstract...its learning. Kids do it all the time, one way they learn is by observing what others do around them and the resulting consequences from those actions. they see the results being something good, then they mimic the behavior. I think youre confusing theoretical and abstract; most of education is theoretic in the sense it can only be applied in given moments in certain situations - and thats ONLY if the person learning this information isnt internalizing it as to apply it in life, outside of that specific context, which is what most people do. We Integrate new knowledge into existing information to grow and develop. Yes, working hands on and learning as an apprentice is very valuable in itself (btw, that's what its like in a PhD program), but education is not an idealist each chamber. Id argue its harder to find more people who agree with the higher you go up.
@@ryghtiousfrazier2928 I agree with everything you’re saying, particularly bringing in the word “Theoretical”
Theoretical is at far left end of the continuum, with the far right being hands on reality. The degrees in between represent levels of abstraction that Im talking about.
1. **Highly Abstract (Theoretical)**
- Pure concepts, theories, and principles with no direct physical manifestation.
- Examples: Mathematical theories, philosophical ideas, theoretical physics.
2. **Abstract Models and Representations**
- Simplified or generalized versions of reality that help to explain or predict phenomena.
- Examples: Scientific models, abstract art, economic models.
3. **Conceptual Frameworks and Diagrams**
- Visual or logical structures that organize and simplify complex information.
- Examples: Flowcharts, organizational charts, conceptual maps.
4. **Applied Theory**
- The practical application of theoretical knowledge to real-world problems.
- Examples: Engineering designs, software algorithms, educational strategies.
5. **Experiential Learning and Simulations**
- Activities that mimic real-world scenarios to provide practical experience.
- Examples: Laboratory experiments, role-playing exercises, virtual simulations.
6. **Hands-on Reality (Concrete)**
- Direct interaction with physical objects and real-world environments.
- Examples: Building a prototype, conducting fieldwork, performing surgery.
This continuum illustrates how various activities and concepts can range from highly abstract to highly concrete, each serving different purposes in understanding and interacting with the world.
I guess my emphasis, and the videos emphasis is to get to the hands on and the real world setting as quickly as possible.
I would say rigid parenting, punishment, dismissiveness, devils advocate, stressful tone of voice, bullying, genetic dispositions and other factors that create social difficulties will be inhibitors for this type of thinking and will interrupt the process in the brain for maximum growths in these areas.
Devils advocate?
Devil's advocate is a great tool for encouraging expansion of thought.
Agreed all those are bad to raise a kid not great for a brain
@@vanessanassif It is, but should be used if there is established trust.
This type of learning is more important than ever because semantic and procedural information can be accessed so easily these days.
High school still serves as a great place to learn who your peers are, who the bullies are, and experiment with how to deal with all your peers who will be your peers forever, because everywhere you go, people are very much the same.
I wouldn't say, just depends I suppose. But there's not always bullies in every workplace
@@gabrielsilvas692 good to hear. There’s been at least one in every single workplace I’ve experienced so far. Or if not, then someone who’ll take advantage of others.
I grew up in the Malaysian school system but I went to do the Ontario Secondary School Diploma for my A-Level equivalent. And I am so glad I did.
The classes, such as global issues (in particular), history, economics and sociology, and even learning how to analyse texts and song lyrics through different lenses - all of the classes asked "what does this mean to you, what are the implications of this, how does that make you feel".
Aside from this, the lecturers were really engaging and brought this out in the students with a lot of discourse and healthy debate.
This might have been so successful in part because it was a private institution here in Malaysia, and I do not know if this is true for the public system back home in Ontario, but it was a magical place to learn that did SO MUCH for me in a way I had never previously experienced.
Basically, I used my autobiographical memory to keep my sanity during really hard times.
Great Video! Identifies the difference between quantitative learning (facts, procedures, and rote learning) and quantitative learning (values, purpose, ethics, and meaning). We need both, but Western education emphasizes the first group and devalues the second. If we want to nurture feeling and caring people, not just hyper- effecient automatons, a course correction in modern education is needed.
I think you meant to type “qualitative” learning when citing values, ethics, and meaning.
High learning efficiency (or time spent) becomes the conforming point in a community if that is what predicts success.
@@SamyagAjivaAjiva
I respectfully submit that what you meant to say was "(for" not "(or".
Additionally, what you day has to apply to 'the most good for the mosy people'. LOL i turned off autospell to be sure my concepts didn't get garbled.)
Well - when you think about it - you will realize the efficient automatons are much more useful and preferred for a minority oligarchy that wants to consolidate power.
Of course, people hopefully will begin to take back their own power by realizing these things and self-educating.
Girl read yo comment again
It would be great if there was a link to the 40 documentaries that she talks about.
We killed all of our rituals, and now we need scientists to explain the void that it's left.
As an Atheist, yeah. Kinda. There are ways to fill that void, but they generally have a higher entry barrier than the old systems.
Good, don’t need more absurd rituals passed down to generations to prevent progress I.e. religion.
Nope. We've been programmed against Christ, MINIMUM 1x/season EVERY SHOW we grew up upon, while having the new age, it's paganism, and Luciferian/NARCISSISM programming shoved upon us from EVERY ANGLE - entertainment, media, advertising, corporations and now even govt programs, especially in education.
The results?? A "me FIRST 'cause I'ma god/goddess" society, rise in crime esp serial and mass killers, because it is a rise in EVIL INCARNATE.
the OPPOSITE of so-called "enlightenment."
What we need is God back in the schools, instead we have "After school Satan club" programs.
@@Paulina-br6tm rituals dont necessarily refer to religious ones, think about activities that make you feel part of a community as a whole, thats the point of the “rituals”, at the same time community and belonging are two things that are greatly missing in modern times
@@Paulina-br6tmonly a deeply disturbed person would respond like this. Yikes.
I need the link to the study. The data.
There were way too many uncontrolled variables in the study it seems.
Not trying to undermine their work. I am certain that these group of people are way more adept at this than I am, more so as a group. I also see value in their work but the study conclusion appears a bit stretched to me. So please, if anyone can share the link, I'd really appreciate.
Thanks!
You know what happened when I typed her name into Google scholar? I stopped scrolling after 100 academic papers. Pubmed is another excellent place to search for scientific papers. I believe that the study you're wanting to read is here: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10943076/
So based on all this, I would really love to see these 40 documentaries mentioned at 3:20. Might also be useful for a friend of mine's troubled teen. If you agree, please like this comment so that the channel might respond and post some links. ❤
It would have made sense if you dropped the link of the 40 documentaries
So, stop dumbing people down to compete for a job and start teaching the to contruct their (our) future, together
WOW, well done, it makes so much sense. Good luck with your future dream to make this a reality!
That’s why we need the stories of others - family, neighbors, community - in the development of young people. I will also say, in the healthy maintenance of ALL people. Stories of the recent and the far past are important connectors - laced with truth - to projections of the future. Unfortunately, those stories are now being fed by internet chaos and misinformation, creating communities of hyper individualized subjects, who conceive their truth as the only absolute truth. How do we remediate this?
Yeah I'm not sure I'm getting this video, maybe my IQ isn't as high as I thought. What I get is having young people think deeply on various issues causes them to grow brain matter and be happier even though they're working at a McDonald's, dreaming about being a pro football player, maybe for the rest of their lives.
What the video is saying is: when, instead of thinking about short-term things (survival, short-term pleasure), people think in long-term (aka, transcendental) about the thinga they really care, they tend to learn more and develop a sense of identity. As a consequrnce, they go for what they really want in life and tend to be happier with their life
@@Andreluiz-dp2ho No, that is a distortion of the message of the video. It doesn't speak about the benefit of thinking about "their world", even in the long term. It speaks about the benefit of thinking about the real world and how they fit into it, about social structure, about morals, etc. It never said they were thinking of their future or themselves...
I’m getting from the video that teaching high schoolers the smaller procedures, information and tasks and trying to force them to memorize these things, leads to less meaning and less satisfaction with their lives … but providing opportunities for teens to see a bigger picture, experience places and/or events that offer a bigger picture, produces young adults that are more satisfied about their life course and their relationships because they’ve developed more meaning for themselves.
And now I’m trying to think about my favorite teachers and most valuable experiences from my life 14-18.
Thinking about and developing a purpose for your life leads to goal-directed behavior and more happiness. Working a menial job is more satisfying when it is experienced as part of a planned trajectory.
Seeing and planning a personal development path is a first step of transcendence, transcending the moment/now to include the future.
When you see how working toward the best for those close to you contributes to the future vision, that's a transcence of self-interest. Then, as you include more people, institutions, and groups into your vision, those are other transcending steps.
Maybe you'll come to see all as one, maybe you won't. But I'd say that operationalizing any "all is one" revelation needs to start small and grow in this way. Otherwise, it just lives as a fantasy.
Is it possible to supply a list of "documentaries" the subjects were exposed to?
The bar for ‘transcendental’ is very low, apparently
Oh no, regular life isn't magic enough for you 😢
Think layers. Many bars.
This is pretty humanist or altruistic. And yet I don’t think propensity of success means this. You can be a hermit and be auspicious.
Big words, but comes across as word salad. IMO clarity in communication trumps seeming clever.
@@soycrates sorry you may have to do more work than just reply. Maybe look up the words or have someone break down their meaning for you.
Thank you for your tutorial. Only the sounds are disturbing and distracting.
This is such a fantastic channel.
This is such a fantastic compliment! Thanks for being here, Max.
Its a very interesting video. Many educational systems don't put enough meaning into thinking in such a way.
With constant screens and tech transcendent thinking is not happening much anymore. Not that it was abundant before, but much less today
excellent video.
Thank you for watching!
It’s newage. We are all connected. Therefore happiness = connection. Your consciousness, micro universe can connect with other similar systems such as algorithm on web or other people’s neuron based networks. Like mushrooms and roots of plants can communicate with each other under the soil.
How the hell did you get to this conclusion?
@@LobyDobstershould I answer to you?
@@neon_nana I asked a question to you. Answer if you want to
Such a good video
Can we have access to the video used on adolescents during your study? Many thanks 🙏
So... in a way, dissolving/deterring from ideas and perception of separateness leads to greater levels and likelihood of self-actualization ?
Rework this
I am a doctor and I couldn’t draw a conclusion. Please share the link to original article.
You don't have access to PubMed?
She picked the right job 👍
I didn’t start any kind of transcendental thinking until I took LSD in my very early 20s. Not a flippant joke, reality.
Yeah lots of people don’t have the correct neurodevelopment to think on the level of their peers.
I am not sure whether we consider the word trancendental or education to mean the same. Sure it makes sense to have activities that are related to identity, but that is not education. It is something that can coexist with it. I am not sure whether they refer to Kantian transcendence or something else, but the use of the word seems off. I imagine they somehow thought it made sense if they read teaching to transgress, but I feel like they just grabbed a word and repurposed it for something entirely different.
amazing experimental design
while i appreciate the observation i don't know that we want to promote/accelerate memory organization this way? its capacity to filter perception and introduce bias would indicate more caution than facilitation, right?
Our country(goverment) need to hear your perspective miss, i think what you explain is the very definition of what we called as "learning", somehow, what motivate every subject is always based on value, a moral compass that construct one ethic as core idea of their own self as person!? 🤔😅
Maybe that is the reason why story and their conflict are extremely important as "material" to build the emotional inclination toward life and their own narative as human!? 🤔
Every human will find their own self in the end... 😅
#thereisnounderstandingwithoutconflictthatmanagedbysincerityandhonesty...
#justupidea... 😁👍
The word "write" in the opening scene was off kilter over the whiteboard. 😂
Impressive.
Critical thinking isn’t just for what’s read on paper- it has to come to 3d just like teaching from the Bible- you can’t just talk it, you literally have to walk it
This was the type of school Albert Einstein went to in Zurich . They make use of Abstract in learning .
I have always said that the brain is a muscle, and like any other, it needs to be exercised.
Maybe are actually measuring here is that how people see themselves - mostly if they believe some of their capacities or not - they become biased to confirm AND that is, let's say "spiralisticly progressive", meaning that some small events can "butterfly effect" themselves into a self proclaiming unconscious prophecy.
If you were loved, your works were praised by caretakers and your empathy exercised, your chances of developing anxiety, depression, heavy addiction and other set backing stuff are way lower.
Also, revisiting the former argument, your good beliefs are going to spiralisticly progress to prove yourself as that.
Thus, you can be totally average and still achieve a lot.
I've seen young geniuses that have fallen prey to their pride and egocentrism because of not only how it limited themselves to their perspective (which sometimes was, yes, way ahead of the others - but was still only their) but also because their self centering was socially repelling. Tbf, even some that were humble and respectful sometimes had such huge worlds to share that they couldn't fit into the echo chambers of average adolescence.
Social anxiety, depression and addiction sometimes follow and the consequences are very limiting.
Now, one curious thing: this all may be very cultural. Was this test in a country like Japan, it would probably have way different outcomes, as honor and respect are culturally incentivised, and probably whoever is smarter is (at least by a "bigger some" than not) socially praised for being so.
Sorry to come across as disagreeable but your autobiographical thinking isn’t “transcendent” it’s exactly what you transcend when you do so.
Is the essence of "identity development" The Ego?
Résumé of 7 minutes : think deeply about things -> happy (you're welcome)
Psychologist: “The I is transcendental”
Psychology: “ow wait…”
Kant scores again, damn it
Good luck
Too conceptual, I hope she can give more concrete examples of what to teach and how to teach.
That rich person who after having to shake hands with a normy, who's offered purell by the servant as soon as they're back in the limo - how is it that they're not underdeveloped in this sense. They still know people and they still know stocks.
The music slightly too loud and a bit annoying tbh
Especially the first music section
I love your videos though
So dropping out of school and smoking pot
High school is still useful for filtering athletes into college sports and beyond. Because great raw athletes can still be found in public school and not always in pay to play sports like AAU.
Edit: I suppose that’s why poor school put all their money into sports and only rich schools can offer cool opportunities for any subjects beyond sports.
So we’re just gonna gloss over the home life needing to be stable for this type of development?
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So basically what she’s saying is raise your kids to be good people. Unfortunately that doesn’t happen with a lot of kids. A lot of bad environments kids are being raised in out there, it starts with someone at home making the right changes for kids.
A child can have a great home environment, but they spend most of their time at school and with friends and now, on social media.
Good can be subjective or arbitrary. Good parents produce bad kids and bad parents can still end up with good kids.
@@SamyagAjivaAjiva your right but I would think you have a better chance of raising a good human being if you provide basic life skills and love.
A stable and supportive home environment is important but if I understand the video, what they're saying is that kids who were exposed to other perspectives and experiences, even vicariously through a documentary, and who were able to relate that to their own values and goals, developed higher level thinking skills. So providing your child a wide variety of experiences, both real and imagined, seems to be the key.
"Street smarts"
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The 1960s was like that
"Young adult life satisfaction"
How about following them all the way into full adulthood.
Abstract thinking, hmm! Or thinking about abstract concepts?
Thinking about abstract concepts requires the neural network to use a lot of energy. The biochemistry of CRISPR technology; The mathematics and physics of Feynman diagrams, are mentally challenging. Abstract concepts, like the above mentioned, require a plethora of formal education, the ability to decipher empirical evidence, and a conceptual understanding of the Bayesian credence of such models. When engaged in a conversation about this sort of abstract concepts, one can see the eyes glaze over as neural networks go into energy savings mode.
At the other extreme, Creativity is considered abstract thinking, especially in the artsy communities. Let the mind wander and out comes abstract art. Abstract art with, dare I say, only subjective value.
Our advanced technological society is not based on abstract art. Our advanced technological society is based on James Clerk Maxwell’s equations. So when someone suggests that abstract thinking will make our planet a better place,… I suggest that it really depends! The abstract thinking, the creativity, that comes up with concepts like ‘Hell’ have been more destructive, rather than productive! In my substantiated research!
Please this kind of high toned talking with intense music ruins the whole learning experience
For the love of God 🙏
First rule of indoctrination is get them while they are young. The point of the classroom is for classism, puts you in your box. You exist as an exchange system of money. Do you remember when you gave up on who you are to become a debt slave? Make more money.
Most of this is the equivalent of science rediscovering what culture and religion were already doing for millenia of human history.
The modern "Factory School" standardized child-rearing development environment of:
1. Sitting between four-walls most of the active day.
2. Being passive and sensory-deprived.
3. Listening to over-dose of literary low quality one-to-many linear instructions
4. Not engaging in multi-dimensional experiences eg using hands, engaging in diverse tasks with different people around the natural routine of the day attending to immediate needs apart from basic cognitive or academic learning (information and procedure as stated).
Well what could possibly be wrong with that environment for children's development? Now add in broken-homes or dysfunctional family and community contexts where none or less of the missing above is offered in the lives as well due to atomized Western life-styles eg divorce is equivalent to a change in fashion of clothes choice looking at the stats.
Well no surprise if the neuroscientists are beginning to question what all the above is doing to child development quality.
I guess scrolling on social media isn’t providing the bigger picture for today’s teens.
Play back at 0.75x speed. You're welcome.
What? Nothing's suff
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@@pepsi3705for better listening comprehension
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Do away with the.monotonous background "music", please.
Interesting the stories were important, better check the bin of rationalism.
You couldn't find African footage that's not rural?
I am nowhere close to stupid, and I have a strong vocabulary; but for the life of me, I can't get a good handle on what she's saying. It's coming out a complex "word salad" for me. Maybe later, after a night's sleep.
Make sure your children are getting their omega 3 fish oils!!
Additional addiction to $@Tisfaction
Of course NOT!
As autist my developing years as the present ones been on social isolation, like pandemic one but for life, aldough my default thinking pattern about things been deep always and about trascendental parts of life there is that disabling issue of life not getting where it was supposed to, in fact no any important goal been fulfilled, not being due to lack of academic preparation but social one, there comes the ‘social disabled’ concept.
Then you have the transcedental and boarder meaning thing that you care, wich the video says that makes people grows! It's overcoming this, the social disable, maybe creating paths for you and others who suffers the same. If you care about it, it matters, that is the path
I've found that religious worship also helps someone develop "transcendent thinking". School is not the only place where we are educated and can learn.
😕 Is church the right place to learn???
So teaching kids about Zeus and Thor as real beings is helpful? I seriously question that.
@@Goose_G.O.D Of course. We should develop an eagerness to learn from multiple different sources, including those that contradict our current thinking. Closing yourself off is the wrong approach.
@@ClayArnall You're talking about quantitative facts, not qualitative thinking. There's a difference and I'm referring to the latter.
@@NeuQNu dont have to worship religion to study it, i study religion but im barely spiritual it just interests me
It's almost as if we're more than just flesh and molecules and chemical reactions.
Is it sad that I give people less credence the more names they stack on?
No more slow motion people pretending to do things stock footage
i think this is just a study about social status nothing else sorry.
For shure there has to be gradual build up for opurtunity in learning and engaging but that isnt given for everyone - that gradual learning is what can make the greatest minds no doubt
if one cant see the developmental path there might be to become a more desireable version of onese self by own standards than there cant be growth. And thats social differences that sets the landscape
She literally just said identity development and young adult life satisfaction is not related to iq and socioeconomic status but the ability to make meaning out of your life
You can make meaning out of your life no matter if you work at mcds, if you've gone through trauma, if you lack societal validation. On the other hand you can be a doctor, a lawyer, work at Google whatever and still lack meaning in your life
If you're life is too hard for you to have time to raise your kids properly, don't have kids.
Very unscientific...
You are forcing subjectivity...
#NONSENSEONLINE ⚜️
Hahaha try this in an actual classroom - most teachers I know already think this way but have absolutely no way to make it to this level of thought.
Class size & teacher’s skills + experience makes a big difference. Yet, to be effective matters of the intellect needs to connect with matters of the heart.
@@FrazzleDazzle9 that response seems a bit jumbled but from what I understand from it - I agree. But this person hasn’t seen a real classroom more than just observing like 60 kids in a while. It’s not applicable for most classroom environments I’ve been in.
@@person3728 yes, I should try not commenting on a complex subject whilst multitasking… just to add that ideally an effective teacher/facilitator usually would have the wherewithal/conditions to fully engage participants during th3 learning process, usually by asking incisive/exploratory questions - whatever the particular purpose or aim of the topic may be. It would be helpful if the prof expressed her concepts in a more simple terms. Specific examples may also provide more clarity to get her point across.
sound like a massive bs
Why would you say that?
@@AlexOliveira-zi2vi seems like another intellectual fart of someone who needs new grant or sell the book.
She’s describing a Catholic school education
Let the education system stay the way it is, it's a strong filter.
It's just daycare, nothing more. - former high school math teacher
Strong filter for what?
Our education system reminds me of how elephants in captivity are trained by humans. The calves are shackled in chains from an early age. They try helplessly for years to escape but eventually succumb to the belief that they're too weak to break free. A full-grown elephant can easily break their chains and run away, but they never try to break free as their beliefs are reinforced. Our education system serves the same purpose as those chains, a tool to enforce conformity or learned helplessness.
The education system varies by zip code. Have a little more empathy for your fellow mankind.
@@666psslol
Another fairy tale.
So dropping out of school and smoking pot