but this patch is really good for new players though especially 2.6 phase 2 you can never go wrong pulling for 2 of them(as a new player prioritize characters than lightcones)
@@blursedpasta7718Aventurine is the only good option here. 2.7 have 2 supports(Nihility and Harmony) and we all know how broken a Limited 5* Harmony is. Acheron is a good dps but is only a DPS
One thing i learned about HSR is "dont pull for eidolons unless you want to E0 cycle" All my limited characters are E0, some are E0S1. When Daniel was strong i could clear any content with him, it's been months that i dont use him, and i would drop him for Acheron, Feixiao ou Firefly anyway. Supports are indeed way more powerful. I can find use for my Silver Wolf in some scenarios even to this day, while my Seele is getting her beauty sleep.
Yeah but it can be argued if you had E2 DHIL you would probably still use him, BUT I do agree with your opinion, sometimes eidolons future proof your unit
@@Kev1n_2k4 Pretty sure he's stronger and much more useful than mine nowadays, but since i prefer to get more characters, i have all the new dps and support so i dont even feel the need to use him anymore to clear content.
Will still pull for Rappa. At this point I already have decent amount of teams and I am getting tired of pulling for meta instead of gooning preference.
@@CaptainMeleon obviously they do yeah, its just against the contract if you're a signed hoyo cc. CCs that discuss leaks are basically normal folks like us who happens to make videos lmao
People that keep saying "wait until 3.X" are so annoying. Might as well wait for 4.X so my units aren't "powercrept". How about waiting for 5.X units? Literally pull who you want. You will clear no matter what. You have a variety of light cones that will 100% help improve your 1.X and 2.X units.
you are absolutely right, but i think this is the only point in time, if you are not a big rappa/acheron fan to wait and see what happens, since 3.0 is basically around the corner and the 2,7 units seem to be very very good
@@pfeilinger4463 if the amount of spoonfed and babysit hoyo do to fua will be the same as what they will do to 3.x characters then so be it. I cant think of a single team that everyone use everything in eachother's kit like fua comp
@@SuperOdod go for it! I have mine at E2S1 and he's still my comfy DPS, still using him in MoC and AS eventhough I have Firefly and Feixiao too. Hope you get his E2!!
Me too, except I went for his E2 first last rerun, and hoping to get his S1 this time round. I know from a meta perspective his S1 is not really that significant compared to Aeon S5 but he's my main so I gotta invest. I can clear all content anyways already, so I'm pulling for personal taste than meta.
@@mugipyon723 so true, imo using firefly make the game boring bcs how easy she clear the endgame content... so i always use my danheng il and jingyuan to clear the endgame content
I can't understand the hsr community, when there is a new op character players come from hell to say it's impossible to make moc because of powercreep, but when they launch good but not op characters like yunli, jiaoqiu and rappa everybody says the chacarcter is mid and you should skip. If everybody skips every character that is not op, hoyo will only launch op characters and powercreep will happen faster, that's basic logic.
Maybe because those are different people and not a collective hivemind. The people complaining about powercreep most likely aren’t the same people calling the newer characters mid.
@@27Ganon boothill maybe ? But its a very slim chance. Firefly ? Yea, no. The bish cant even clear her own boss better than than feixiao let alone dreaming about surpassing her.
@@deltaspecies1697 feels like Boothill and Feixiao will be the best ones but Firefly still the best for casual auto gameplay people because she is 0 braincell. Her ceiling is way worse than Boothill or Feixiao though but a lot of people have skill issue
@@g6a0912nah they’ll just remedy that with weakness bar lockouts on certain enemies and I’m 100% sure eventually we will get double weakness bar enemies, hoyo is a smart company they know how to make you use different methods for fights
@@intrepid9776 I have other implant/colorless breaking characters as well. (Which i use more than sw, shes dead💀) I just dont like the mechanic, it makes game too braindead imo.
@@g6a0912 it's not useless characters that straight up ignore it like firefly only ignore 50% I assume it's the same for rappa, firefly's implant only implants one target which prevents her from getting full value from her blast, silverwolf is single target making it only single target, boothill's is tied to his ult locking him onto that target until he gets another, acheron's and feixaio's are only on ult, all this to say all implant/colorless break is limited so the weakness bar isn't useless plus without weakness ignore break characters are useless in all content except where enemies have their respective types
The fact the 5 star Herta is the exact same element and path is kinda lame, if she’s good in Pure Fiction, then just use E6 4 Star Herta, vs summoning and possibly losing a 50/50 💀
@@firepopcorn1237That's the exact same doomposting people made about Jiaoqiu and Black Swan not being much better than Guinaifen and Sampo. Their 5* counterpart was shown to be better in almost any scenario. Herta 2.0 will be a 100% upgrade of her 4* counterpart and you will probably be able to use her 4* counterpart alongside her. Being an Emanator she will probably be good even outside Pure Fiction and considering that Amphoreus will probably have multiple enemies we can expect AoE characters have a lot more use.
A round of applause for Hoyo for releasing a break unit without weakness implant when she has the exact same kit as Firefly. Surely this decision wouldn't make her bad and totally not bias/favoritism 🤡
Erudition with Weakness Implant is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too broken, also, Tyngyun+ seems to be Break oriented support. So, i wouldn't count on Rappa being bad
@@snakecake-mw7vw Stop the cope, it's not like she has to implant on all 5 enemies, it's just the main target otherwise even FF would implant on 3 enemies instead of 1, what are you on? And Tingyun doesn't fckin matter when boothil and ff can use her too and they're just way better than her! She not having implant not only was a missed opportunity to make hmc help her breaking, but also means she'll always be worse than ff since galla and now tingyun can help ff in breaking enemies as fire units.
@@Yuusuke69 , it does when the ability of Tyngyun+ also has AoE range and Rainbow Weakness Break. Also, PF is a thing, where she would be good even with Hoyo trying to cripple her
@@Yuusuke69 also, just one target is such a waste for an Erudition unit. With Erudition is either the mechanic has AoE or is trash, more with PF which is the territory of Erudition.
the meta moves so fast here. Acheron will just have her 1st rerun and picking her up now kinda feels like a waste when I could have waited for new DPS? idk its so weird
3.0 is more than 3 months away, if you like Acheron and/or need a dps before then, it's still okay to pull her. Even without her light cone she'll do well with Pela + another nihility. Her whole gimmick is her ult is a screen-clearer anyways, and you will only need to use your ult more than once against bosses. You can make her ults more frequent or more powerful with lc+eidolons, but it's not required for her to do her job. You just might be clearing slower. I have her without her light cone or eidolons and I still use her pretty frequently to FC MOC/AS.
Yeah, my e2s1 dhil, tingyun, sparkle & huohuo feel like nothing now.. I have around 350 tickets so I'll be saving for something in v3 and e2s1 something there instead of going back to old dps like acheron and feixiao who are pretty much obsolete here in a few months.
Her technique is the strongest technique in the game. Instant mob obliteration is something that you cant ever powercreep. But, waiting for 3.X DPS is also the correct choice, so do what you will with your stellar jades. I can only recommend Acheron if you have Jiaoqiu and you liked skipping mob enemies entirely with a tip of a finger, the most excellent and the smoothest exploration character.
Pull what you like but for pull value imo: Rappa is the easiest skip Pull DHIL if you have Sparkle or you're going for E2S1 Pull Acheron if you have Jiaoqiu or you're going for E2S1 Pull Aventurine if you only have 1 limited 5 star sustainer or you're into FuA
Herta/Himeko is still staple on PF. Rappa is another Super Break Flavor, and eventually we will be able to run 2 different Superbreak teams with some different mechanics involved.
@@NihilRefertSubSole13 in all seriousness, i think the current moc buff is a taste of what the future holds for break. i still wish i could clone ruan mei for my boothill/ff though
The only things I'm going for this version are e2 DHIL (I have e0, and he's my fav character), and acheron's lightcone... maybe aventurine's lc too if I get lucky!
Based!! E2 Dhil is so fun, I got him last rerun and now I'm going for his S1 to finish him off. He's my fav character too (my gf says he's the character I'm most like haha).... If I have enough pulls remaining after S1 I want to go for Acheron's LC as well. Good luck to the both of us! (and any other Dhil enjoyers out there)
im the exact same except my dhil is e1. tbh i think ill just throw in a few 10 pulls for e2 dhil and if i lose 50/50 ill just save the rest for acherons cone, been saving my lc guarantee since 2.2 after losing boothills cone to that mf yanqing cone
@@whole.milk__ Nice! Yeah, I already have his s1 thankfully (got it accidentally while trying to get a pearls of sweat lightcone last banner). Good luck!
@@curryfishheadenjoyer I hope you win the 50 50! That's unfortunate with yanqing's lightcone... I'll have to win the 75/25 for acheron's (though honestly I wouldn't mind getting bronya's or gepard's).
Got E3S1 Firefly and E0S1 Feifei, still getting Acheron. Missed her by literally one pull on release - got Aventurine next day from daily quest jades, so no real regrets - but the bitterness still lingers, and I must overcome it by pulling her, this time she won't escape me.
Why E3 Firefly? I cleared every endgame max star with Acheron and Firefly auto mode. My Acheron is E2S1 -10/10 Firefly E2S1 - 10/10 Btw weekly SU run with Acheron is 5-7 min.
I would have considered pulling her but 2.7 is juiced my man. Only thing I might want out of 2.6 is Aventurines LC for Acheron team so I’ll do 20 pulls and see if I get lucky. If not we go next.
Something to consider for Adventurine is that while he may not be needed for people with two sustains, he's perservation sustain that uses shields to keep your party alive. So, for any current, previous, and possibly future SU/DU gamemodes on the highest difficulties, he will be able to take full advantage of all the preservation blessings that revolve around shields and his shield in particular is very strong and easy to apply (Just tap Skill). Future preservation units might be able to do this too, but if they make them use new shield mechanics (Like City Restorer Equation or something left field like Fu Xuan again), its hard to say if they'll synergize with those blessings. Though honestly, all of this is just to say he'll still have a place here to help you get more jades and I doubt we'll see more preservation units for a while anyway.
Yeah that’s absolutely true, i have acheron e0s1 and she always clear moc longer than my firefly or fexiao team, btw my sustain only luocha and galagher, so better to pull lingsha or aventurin?
If it gets to the point Acheron and Firefly can no longer 3star endgame content I will just quit. I ain't whaling just to become a meta slave and bench 360+ pulls worth of investment every major version.
@@27Ganon Vertical investment on the teams I currently use to easily 3star endgame. Lightcones especially and replacing 4 star units with best in slot 5 stars.
i still think hes nowhere worth it if you already have 2 premium sustains already. the fact he needs S1 to help get another stack is kinda eh. i believe theres gonna be a more dedicated sustain for acheron than aventurine.
didn't i read somewhere that rappa's enhanced basic reduces toughness bar regardless of weakness type, similar to acheron? if that's the case wouldn't that make weakness implant not as necessary or am i confusing something? i am new at this
ok ok, but what about E2 acheron, since I am 5 puls away from soft pity, and we got 140 pulls next patch, I can guarantee myself an E2 acheron, how big is e2 acheron with Jiaoqiu and sparkle?
Acheron needs a lot of investment, such as her Signature Lightcone, Jiaoqiu, Luka's LC, or even Pela (yes, Pela is not a free unit). So it is a huge gamble rollijg for her, considering how close we are to 3.0 and probably even stronger DPS
@@MrSquishy0 it sholdn't but it happens sometimes. It happened when Acheron released - I saw someone asking for team building tips in a discord server, and that person had Acheron but no Pela. And it might happen again in the future.
I pulled ruan mei for my DoT team over firefly and lost my 50/50 on fuxuan so I don't have a good preservation or boothill. I have a built fua team without aventurine but I want a PF dps so I'm stuck between saving for aventurine or pulling rappa
I only have lingsha as limited sustain and I'm skipping Aven even though I like him. I just don't want two sustains yet esp with 3.0 comes out I wanna see how the new sustains scale up. Lingsha is amazing for me cuz she does something else like being able to nuke the board and cc debuff constantly
Just wanna point out for people considering aventurine for Acheron, we will get new sustains in 3.X and at this point we have a dedicated sustain for every play style (ie they also have the mechanics in their kit) except DoT. HuoHuo is BiS but not dedicated, and I bet the dedicated DoT sustain will be BiS for acheron
Being Acheron means: Having better avarages in the last 3 cycles of 2/3 end games modes than any other DPS yet still being undervalued. It's crazy how much the community dickrides the shilled ones uh? Fortunately the smart ones know where the value resides.
I started hsr around mid firefly banner and i have absolutly no characters that are BIS for acheron (not even pela), lost my 50/50 on feixiao too, so would she be worth pulling over aventurine ? (my only sustain is ghalla (and ... lynx))
@@restart6358 His kit is still complete without his LC. His LC gives him more damage. As a sustain character, not providing damage is not a dealbreaker. While Acheron's LC is highly specific to her, there's a reason MrPokke rated her LC as tier 0: her damage difference with and without her LC is huge. Just like MrPokke stated, Mei does not have a BIS-3 and sustain, so her value will only rise. I'm not claiming that she will maintain tier 0, but it is highly unlikely that she will be garbage, as her kit is definitely more future-proof than Jingliu's, especially as her value increases with more debuffers being added to the game.
silver wolf is still hanging on actual for apocoliptic shadow at least. Silver wolf gives true weakness implant meaning they lose resistance to that weakness as well has weakness for breaking where as boothill/firefly just implant weakness for breaking but the enemy still keeps their resistances
I don’t know if mrpokke himself add the subtitle or some random guy, but I guarantee if you keep on the subtitle in future content it’ll be really good for Chinese audiences
I think, she might not be as bad as we probably think. She is an Erudition after all, so her kit favours more in PF than MoC and AS. She will be strong there like any other Erudition unit but will be weaker in the other two mode. So the pull is not a must but rather, if we like her design or not.
IDK why people are thinking Rappa won't be strong in AS. It's not a single-target mode, it's a break mode. Rappa is a break DPS, she will be strong AS.
@@invin_2940 uh, just play Rappa against Phantylia? Tell me how good Firefly does against Aventurine. Tell me how good Boothill does against Phantylia in AS.
@@invin_2940 And Rappa will perform better against Phantylia than Firefly. There's the difference. You have 2 floors in AS. Let's say the 1st side you get less point because you don't have a single target break DPS, but the 2nd side you get more points because you have Rappa against AoE break content, then it balances itself out.
HSR meta is just exhausting the reason E2S1 worked in genshin is because characters werent being powercrept by the time of their reruns so low spenders had time to build up for it but hsr meta is so fast that E2S1 is too expensive and E0S0 cant maintain meta relavence it makes planning teams really unfun compared to ZZZ or Genshin because investing doesnt actually improve your account
Acheron can do pretty much the same thing as Rappa without wasting superbreak comp, and does damage even if she can't immediately break enemies. That is a skip if I've ever seen one
okay hear me out, this has already happened twice. each time i pull i watched mr pokke video where he win all the 50/50 rate for lingsha and i won both times! i pulled for topaz and her light cone. now i only need to wait for aventurine rerun banner and my premium feixiao team is complete. i am gonna this ritual for aventurine too and hope it still works, thankyou mr pokke? :D
the only kit that can defeat aventurine's kit is a shielder who can cleanse his/her allies if they have his/her shield, and the shield has no turn limit
I really like Rappa's design but damn. While I am looking for a PF dps, I plan to get FF e2. When am I going to want to bench FF for Rappa. 2 characters in a row I really like the design but just cannot justify pulling. Especially with 2.7, while I do not like either of their designs more than Ling/Rappa, I would be shocked if at least one is not a must pull. I also have to consider e2 Acheron (I have e1) but I did not pick up fox and really would rather not, Acheron feels lackluster now without that support.
Is it ok to pull for dan heng if I don't have huohuo or sparkle? I really want him but I'm scared he's going to be useless if I don't have the other characters😞
dan heng il is really not a good choice for dps especially if you dont have sparkle in current and future patch. if you still have doubt, then dont pull him as you will regret it. Might be better to save for v3.0 dps.
The only reason I'd consider MY IL Dan still viable is because a) husbando b) I have HIGH investment in him (near perfect relics) and c) I have him at E2S2 with Sparkle, Ruan Mei and really any sustain works (so HH not required) and he's.. strong still but has been overshadowed by Acheron, Feixio and FF. E0 IL Dan just isn't worth it at this point. If you REALLY want him still and don't have Sparkle, then Hanya.. helps. I ran IL Dan/Hanya/Pela/Fu Xuan before Sparkle and RM came out so that is still a viable team, just far from the strongest.
As long as you like him and intend to invest in him, yes. I have mine at E2S1 with Sparkle right now, but I've played E0S1 DHIL before his first rerun (which happened before Sparkle debut). It's doable, but you need to be meticulous with his teammates. Also, if you're going for E2 (doesn't have to be right in this banner), please note that E0-1 DHIL playstyle differs A LOT from E2. Even between all the top DPSes' eidolons, it's still the most QOL upgrade eidolon IMO. You don't need to change your playstyle with E2 Acheron, Firefly, or Feixiao but you DO with E2 DHIL ult and energy management for even more broken damage (going from ult → 3BA on E0-1 to 3BA → ult → 3BA on E2, yes, even if it means "wasting" your ult; I'm waiting for a unit to remedy this).
i have feixiao (with lc),firefly , sparkle , aventurine ,fu xuan, lingsha ,ruan mei ,kafka,black swam. Can anyone suggest me who to get im confused PS: I like acheron but im confused
I have 2 accs. 1st - lightspender: has E2S1 Aventurine. 2nd - f2p: has E2S1 DHIL. You know what I'm gonna do? PULL FOR THEIR EIDOLONS UNTIL BOTH OF MY HUSBANDOS ARE E6 BC POWERCREEP MEANS NOTHING TO COOMERS LIKE ME. Everyone will get powercreep eventually. So pull for the characters you like. You'll never regret them. I don't even regret my JY and I'm also planning to E6 him cause who cares? You can still clear content anyway!
If thats the case it would be too wild imo. Firefly superbreak team was already the strongest, then they added a 5* upgrade for gallagher. If they also add an upgrade for HMC that would be a bit much??
@@Tiasungit just seems that the hsr dev team really likes super break because it's basically confirmed that fugue gives super break capabilities to the entire team with just her talent instead of hmc with his/her ult. She can also hyperbuff a single super break DPS with her skill. So She can either replace hmc or even Ruan Mei for super break teams.
So… with all that already happened. If in the future I want to have 1 E6 character. Maybe support character is a better investment rather than E6 dps? 😁
yeah the more I think about it the more it looks like this whole patch is skippable, Rappa seems nice but I don't have problems with PF as of now, DHIL is just ehhh now especially at E0 and I already have E2 S1 Ache and E0 Aven, the only thing I'm considering as of now is just vertical investment on either S1 or E1 Aven, other than that hard skip till 2.7 where the bombs are at
Rappa has one major flaw... she's got the 1st (imo) true must pull LC for a character in the game if things remain as they are. That LC screams "should've been base kit" but it isn't the case. Plus the other 3 units have more compelling reasons to pull with certain things considered. Aventurine is soo him that even with multiple limited /fully built solo sustains he's still very compelling to a lot of people especially now that hoolay is a thing. Acheron is still a top 3 dps if not top 1 and a lot of people who have her might consider her eidolons over an e0s1 rappa. Dhil e2 is still top 5 dps in the game if speed tuned correctly and he proper also more compelling to people as an overall imaginary dps than rappa. It's not even a matter of if rappa is good or not cause she objectively will be by proxy of simply being a superbreak dps...but the other 3, their LC have a much stronger argument for almost every player category in the game. She's not even a luxury pull cause we have P.G units that are most likely still better than her...she's simply a for fun pull...and that's ok. It's good even. We need more of those.
All in for him. If you have Gepard LC, you don't really need to pull for Aventurine LC because defensively, Gepard LC is better. Increased aggro to stack talent faster, and bonus defense up to 48% when attacked (which is most likely all the time) which helps with his defense stat if you can't get it to 4k.
@@SchifferThe2nd i have gepards lc and i agree, i think the only real use cases for aventurines cone is if you really want to build him dps, or if you use him with ratio/acheron
Fun fact Acheron E2 opens up a slot for boothill and takes endgame modes from easy mod to Fk it I dunno how to build a team and don't care about C0 but I'll finish this in 1 cycle mod
I agree with chinese players and unfortunately I think I will not be getting Acheron S1 as there is big chance she may soon get benched. It's simply more beneficial for me to pull for a future 3.0 DPS (that also may not rely on their lightcone). Anyway at her E0S0 she never felt like a T0 unit on my account.
she never was T0, she's a slight upgrade from DHIL and Jingliu, but Firefly, Feixiao, sometimes even Yunli, outclass her. Backloaded damage is always gonna be worse in a game where we want to win as fast as possible, it is much better to do numerous instances of some damage 4 to 6 times per cycle than a fuck ton of damage twice per cycle. Acheron could only be fixed if she got two Jioaqiu, but I hardly believe we will get another battery for her any time soon
even playing clara is better than e0 acheron tbh. the nihility limitation really hurts you if you don't have JQ or BS. SW is too slow and Gui doesn't have def shred which mean her buffs get saturated by acheron's high atk and dmg% stats.
He is already better than Acheron at E0S0 honestly. Everyone got the prydwen brain rot. With Fugue coming its not even a question, Fugue is a huge buff for him
I have 0 good erudition units other than e6 Herta I might have to get rappa. Cause I already have fexaio and boothill. I already demolish moc, simulated universe, and apocaliptic shadow. But I always do terrible in pure fiction. The only erudition units I have is serval, qinque, herta, and jing yuan.
Saying you should skip Aventurine because he'll be powercrept in the future is such a stupid opinion lol Should I wait until Diamond to pull for a sustain?
Here's the real CN Pulling Opinion: Skip 2.6 for 2.7
but this patch is really good for new players though especially 2.6 phase 2 you can never go wrong pulling for 2 of them(as a new player prioritize characters than lightcones)
@@blursedpasta7718Aventurine is the only good option here. 2.7 have 2 supports(Nihility and Harmony) and we all know how broken a Limited 5* Harmony is.
Acheron is a good dps but is only a DPS
Aventurine >>> Acheron.
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Archeron without jiaoqiu or hanabi is kinda mediocre
@@blursedpasta77182.7 is way better for new players since superbreak is easiest archetype to build
One thing i learned about HSR is "dont pull for eidolons unless you want to E0 cycle"
All my limited characters are E0, some are E0S1. When Daniel was strong i could clear any content with him, it's been months that i dont use him, and i would drop him for Acheron, Feixiao ou Firefly anyway.
Supports are indeed way more powerful. I can find use for my Silver Wolf in some scenarios even to this day, while my Seele is getting her beauty sleep.
Yeah but it can be argued if you had E2 DHIL you would probably still use him, BUT I do agree with your opinion, sometimes eidolons future proof your unit
This game's Eidolons don't have much value, while Genshin's constellation like Raiden's constellation is still strong even today 5.0
I used to think that, until I got myself an E2S1 DHIL by accident ...
@@greengreenieee8881stares at E2 Firefly, E2 Acheron, E2 DHIL
@@Kev1n_2k4 Pretty sure he's stronger and much more useful than mine nowadays, but since i prefer to get more characters, i have all the new dps and support so i dont even feel the need to use him anymore to clear content.
Will still pull for Rappa. At this point I already have decent amount of teams and I am getting tired of pulling for meta instead of gooning preference.
Reasonable can't complain❤
"gooning preference" ur a loser
"Because they are both supportive roles--I mean I'm not sure about Fugue maybe she's DoT" yeah he totally definitely has no idea man _clueless emoji_
It's always so funny watching content creators pretend they haven't read leaks lol
@@AMDeZaniTBH, if I was a CC I would intentionally not read them to avoid making a mistake on stream....
some ccs obviously read leaks to prepare content faster, but pretend they dont and say "its based on the livestream guys!!! the livestream!!!"
@@CaptainMeleon obviously they do yeah, its just against the contract if you're a signed hoyo cc. CCs that discuss leaks are basically normal folks like us who happens to make videos lmao
People that keep saying "wait until 3.X" are so annoying. Might as well wait for 4.X so my units aren't "powercrept". How about waiting for 5.X units?
Literally pull who you want. You will clear no matter what. You have a variety of light cones that will 100% help improve your 1.X and 2.X units.
you are absolutely right, but i think this is the only point in time, if you are not a big rappa/acheron fan to wait and see what happens, since 3.0 is basically around the corner and the 2,7 units seem to be very very good
@@pfeilinger4463 if the amount of spoonfed and babysit hoyo do to fua will be the same as what they will do to 3.x characters then so be it. I cant think of a single team that everyone use everything in eachother's kit like fua comp
Right? Might as well wait for HSR to end and decide who to pull lmao
Never listen to CN and these Pokke videos.
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i have slowly on each of dhil banner tried to get him e2 and i'm going for it no matter what. i have him e1s1 at this point so i'm committed to it
@@SuperOdod go for it! I have mine at E2S1 and he's still my comfy DPS, still using him in MoC and AS eventhough I have Firefly and Feixiao too. Hope you get his E2!!
Go for it he's different unit at e2 smoother ults.
Still can't 0 cycle with him at E2 personally but that's a skill issue 🗿 best I can do is 1 cycle
Me too, except I went for his E2 first last rerun, and hoping to get his S1 this time round. I know from a meta perspective his S1 is not really that significant compared to Aeon S5 but he's my main so I gotta invest. I can clear all content anyways already, so I'm pulling for personal taste than meta.
@@mugipyon723 so true, imo using firefly make the game boring bcs how easy she clear the endgame content... so i always use my danheng il and jingyuan to clear the endgame content
will still just pull E2 Dhil because I like him and want to be able to keep using him :3
My condolences.
Based, he is so fun at E2 I'm going for his S1 to finish E2S1 :)
real normalise just pulling who we like
don't worry, you aren't alone, coppers don't have have E1 Bobin, which is the true DPS of any team whatsoever
I’m gonna do the same bro
I can't understand the hsr community, when there is a new op character players come from hell to say it's impossible to make moc because of powercreep, but when they launch good but not op characters like yunli, jiaoqiu and rappa everybody says the chacarcter is mid and you should skip. If everybody skips every character that is not op, hoyo will only launch op characters and powercreep will happen faster, that's basic logic.
Maybe because those are different people and not a collective hivemind. The people complaining about powercreep most likely aren’t the same people calling the newer characters mid.
It's already happening, Feixiao powercrept everyone and Firefly/Boothill will re-creep Feixiao after Fugue releases.
@@27Ganon boothill maybe ? But its a very slim chance. Firefly ? Yea, no. The bish cant even clear her own boss better than than feixiao let alone dreaming about surpassing her.
@@deltaspecies1697 feels like Boothill and Feixiao will be the best ones but Firefly still the best for casual auto gameplay people because she is 0 braincell. Her ceiling is way worse than Boothill or Feixiao though but a lot of people have skill issue
@@27Ganon i dont expect fugue that hard, fei comp ahead ff comp 30-40% 1 unit can't fix that gap, boothill with 3 slave maybe
weakness implant/colorless breaking was a mistake
Womp womp SW puller
@@intrepid9776it's not that, the fact that more and more units ignore weakness type means that the weakness bar is becoming useless
@@g6a0912nah they’ll just remedy that with weakness bar lockouts on certain enemies and I’m 100% sure eventually we will get double weakness bar enemies, hoyo is a smart company they know how to make you use different methods for fights
@@intrepid9776 I have other implant/colorless breaking characters as well. (Which i use more than sw, shes dead💀) I just dont like the mechanic, it makes game too braindead imo.
@@g6a0912 it's not useless characters that straight up ignore it like firefly only ignore 50% I assume it's the same for rappa, firefly's implant only implants one target which prevents her from getting full value from her blast, silverwolf is single target making it only single target, boothill's is tied to his ult locking him onto that target until he gets another, acheron's and feixaio's are only on ult, all this to say all implant/colorless break is limited so the weakness bar isn't useless plus without weakness ignore break characters are useless in all content except where enemies have their respective types
idc my acheron deserves her light cone so I'm still pulling and just hope for the best next patch lmaoo
me too 😭 i’m gonna try to get her e2 S1
lightcone is a damn game changer
All in for aventurine eidolons and then saving for herta/fate🗣️
Is it confirmed that we'll get a 5star Herta?
@@maiku7648 no but leaks and potential official model showcase points towards big herta soon
The fact the 5 star Herta is the exact same element and path is kinda lame, if she’s good in Pure Fiction, then just use E6 4 Star Herta, vs summoning and possibly losing a 50/50 💀
@@firepopcorn1237herta 5* is emanator tho ofcourse she gonna be more than just 4* herta
@@firepopcorn1237That's the exact same doomposting people made about Jiaoqiu and Black Swan not being much better than Guinaifen and Sampo. Their 5* counterpart was shown to be better in almost any scenario. Herta 2.0 will be a 100% upgrade of her 4* counterpart and you will probably be able to use her 4* counterpart alongside her. Being an Emanator she will probably be good even outside Pure Fiction and considering that Amphoreus will probably have multiple enemies we can expect AoE characters have a lot more use.
So we have sasuke(kinich),& naruto(ajaw) in genshin and now we have sakura (rappa) in HSR. I wonder where kakashi will end up on?
Kakashi already make appearance at zzz
@@Bing..chiling i don't get the reference, who is it?
@@ikarimisu0184 ruclips.net/video/UgeN7naPPz4/видео.htmlsi=cQnGSEPluZDiWZ7U
@@ikarimisu0184 zzz pv with Elysia in the tumbnail
@@Bing..chilingSurely you aren’t talking about that male member of HAND?
A round of applause for Hoyo for releasing a break unit without weakness implant when she has the exact same kit as Firefly. Surely this decision wouldn't make her bad and totally not bias/favoritism 🤡
Erudition with Weakness Implant is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too broken, also, Tyngyun+ seems to be Break oriented support. So, i wouldn't count on Rappa being bad
@@snakecake-mw7vw Stop the cope, it's not like she has to implant on all 5 enemies, it's just the main target otherwise even FF would implant on 3 enemies instead of 1, what are you on? And Tingyun doesn't fckin matter when boothil and ff can use her too and they're just way better than her! She not having implant not only was a missed opportunity to make hmc help her breaking, but also means she'll always be worse than ff since galla and now tingyun can help ff in breaking enemies as fire units.
@@Yuusuke69 , it does when the ability of Tyngyun+ also has AoE range and Rainbow Weakness Break. Also, PF is a thing, where she would be good even with Hoyo trying to cripple her
@@Yuusuke69 also, just one target is such a waste for an Erudition unit. With Erudition is either the mechanic has AoE or is trash, more with PF which is the territory of Erudition.
@@snakecake-mw7vw Are you pretending? What i mean by main target is just the weakness implant she would've apply, her skill would still hit 5 targets.
the meta moves so fast here. Acheron will just have her 1st rerun and picking her up now kinda feels like a waste when I could have waited for new DPS? idk its so weird
3.0 is more than 3 months away, if you like Acheron and/or need a dps before then, it's still okay to pull her. Even without her light cone she'll do well with Pela + another nihility. Her whole gimmick is her ult is a screen-clearer anyways, and you will only need to use your ult more than once against bosses. You can make her ults more frequent or more powerful with lc+eidolons, but it's not required for her to do her job. You just might be clearing slower. I have her without her light cone or eidolons and I still use her pretty frequently to FC MOC/AS.
Yeah, my e2s1 dhil, tingyun, sparkle & huohuo feel like nothing now.. I have around 350 tickets so I'll be saving for something in v3 and e2s1 something there instead of going back to old dps like acheron and feixiao who are pretty much obsolete here in a few months.
Her technique is the strongest technique in the game. Instant mob obliteration is something that you cant ever powercreep. But, waiting for 3.X DPS is also the correct choice, so do what you will with your stellar jades.
I can only recommend Acheron if you have Jiaoqiu and you liked skipping mob enemies entirely with a tip of a finger, the most excellent and the smoothest exploration character.
What's even the point? "Just pull for 3.x DPS" oh suuuure until 4.x DPS powercreeps them.
Just play whoever you like. Otherwise, you can wait forever for stronger characters.
Pull what you like but for pull value imo:
Rappa is the easiest skip
Pull DHIL if you have Sparkle or you're going for E2S1
Pull Acheron if you have Jiaoqiu or you're going for E2S1
Pull Aventurine if you only have 1 limited 5 star sustainer or you're into FuA
Herta/Himeko is still staple on PF.
Rappa is another Super Break Flavor, and eventually we will be able to run 2 different Superbreak teams with some different mechanics involved.
you can run 2 sup break teams now just need another Ruan Mei. Now it'll just be choosing between boothill + firefly or boothill + rappa
@@xavierlesane8793 true. but they are basically the same mechanics wise. what im saying here is a "different" playstyle/mechanic *wink* *wink*.
@@NihilRefertSubSole13 in all seriousness, i think the current moc buff is a taste of what the future holds for break. i still wish i could clone ruan mei for my boothill/ff though
I've been playing since launch;
My Xueyi is easily the 3rd strongest dps on my account, after my e1 feixiao and e1 firefly
The only things I'm going for this version are e2 DHIL (I have e0, and he's my fav character), and acheron's lightcone... maybe aventurine's lc too if I get lucky!
Based!! E2 Dhil is so fun, I got him last rerun and now I'm going for his S1 to finish him off. He's my fav character too (my gf says he's the character I'm most like haha)....
If I have enough pulls remaining after S1 I want to go for Acheron's LC as well. Good luck to the both of us! (and any other Dhil enjoyers out there)
im the exact same except my dhil is e1. tbh i think ill just throw in a few 10 pulls for e2 dhil and if i lose 50/50 ill just save the rest for acherons cone, been saving my lc guarantee since 2.2 after losing boothills cone to that mf yanqing cone
@@whole.milk__ Nice! Yeah, I already have his s1 thankfully (got it accidentally while trying to get a pearls of sweat lightcone last banner). Good luck!
@@curryfishheadenjoyer I hope you win the 50 50! That's unfortunate with yanqing's lightcone... I'll have to win the 75/25 for acheron's (though honestly I wouldn't mind getting bronya's or gepard's).
1:aven
2:Acheron
3:rappa
4:dhil
1.aven
2.skip
3.skip
4.skip
For players without JQ: 1 Aven, 2 Rappa, SKIP, SKIP
Rappa isn't better then acheron @@darkgrundi9543
My Silver Wolf is rotting in my account
I honestly believe Rappa is the start of a new path for characters down the line.
Getting my e2 acheron and saving lol
heck yeah! i missed her last banner so i’ve been saving ever since. good luck!!!
@@Sting.Ray5378 Same for you my guy 🤝🗿 good luck
Got E3S1 Firefly and E0S1 Feifei, still getting Acheron. Missed her by literally one pull on release - got Aventurine next day from daily quest jades, so no real regrets - but the bitterness still lingers, and I must overcome it by pulling her, this time she won't escape me.
Why E3 Firefly?
I cleared every endgame max star with Acheron and Firefly auto mode.
My Acheron is E2S1 -10/10
Firefly E2S1 - 10/10
Btw weekly SU run with Acheron is 5-7 min.
@@raiveresterok Got E1S1 first, had 11 pulls left, decided to build pity and got lucky with double.
does gepard still count as a fine sustain, i have lingsha and gepard so idk if getting adventurine is also ok to add to my feixiao team?
Thanks for the video, it's nice to get more pull opinions.
Hi, DHIL E2, and Acheron E1S1 along with Jiaoqiu S1 here. I think the move for me is to get another sustain lmfao. And E2 Acheron of course.
At this rate I might as well just get Lingsha and deal damage with her in PF lol
She's fun and great
I would have considered pulling her but 2.7 is juiced my man. Only thing I might want out of 2.6 is Aventurines LC for Acheron team so I’ll do 20 pulls and see if I get lucky. If not we go next.
13:16 it's time for my jingliu to rest o7
Grandma is officially benched 😭💔
@@zwe_246 yup she deserves a good retirement, she literally carry me through everything. I only pull one DPS after jingliu, it's Firefly
Acheron may be a hag but I specialize in hagmaxxing
Something to consider for Adventurine is that while he may not be needed for people with two sustains, he's perservation sustain that uses shields to keep your party alive. So, for any current, previous, and possibly future SU/DU gamemodes on the highest difficulties, he will be able to take full advantage of all the preservation blessings that revolve around shields and his shield in particular is very strong and easy to apply (Just tap Skill).
Future preservation units might be able to do this too, but if they make them use new shield mechanics (Like City Restorer Equation or something left field like Fu Xuan again), its hard to say if they'll synergize with those blessings. Though honestly, all of this is just to say he'll still have a place here to help you get more jades and I doubt we'll see more preservation units for a while anyway.
Yeah that’s absolutely true, i have acheron e0s1 and she always clear moc longer than my firefly or fexiao team, btw my sustain only luocha and galagher, so better to pull lingsha or aventurin?
If it gets to the point Acheron and Firefly can no longer 3star endgame content I will just quit.
I ain't whaling just to become a meta slave and bench 360+ pulls worth of investment every major version.
What are you spending those pulls on then
@@27Ganon Vertical investment on the teams I currently use to easily 3star endgame.
Lightcones especially and replacing 4 star units with best in slot 5 stars.
@@Supreme-King if you use them on vertical investment then Firefly and Acheron will last you for another 3 years. relax my guy.
Just e6 Acheron she’s wife
I have E0S1 Acheron with Jiaoqiu and Sparkle, so is it advisable for me to pull Adventurine instead of going for E1S1
Go Adventurine, unless you have enough pulls to get E2 Acheron it's not good to stop at E1.
@@CrimsonMonarch Thanks for the advice
Already got E2S1 Acheron so Adventurine it is!
best investment, he's amazing, if you have enough for LC i recommend it he can do extra damage plus i believe it has debuff on it, great for Acheron
i still think hes nowhere worth it if you already have 2 premium sustains already. the fact he needs S1 to help get another stack is kinda eh. i believe theres gonna be a more dedicated sustain for acheron than aventurine.
@@hazxiii9657I already have fu xuan, does hes worth?
@@toxicvenomdispair506 If you're having trouble sustaining your 2nd team then yeah he's worth it
@@hazxiii9657does he need S1? I have Gepard’s lightcone and I think it will fit him just fine
Ok who did whatch the stream befor this and just came to see what. Mr pokee have to share
If you're questioning, the answer is yes. Pull Aventurine.
didn't i read somewhere that rappa's enhanced basic reduces toughness bar regardless of weakness type, similar to acheron? if that's the case wouldn't that make weakness implant not as necessary or am i confusing something? i am new at this
Genuine question, should I pull for lingsha or E1 acheron? I already have aventurine + e6 Gallagher. I am 70pulls in and guaranteed feature 5*.
E1 archeron
You shouldn't. Like, galla is fine. And acheron's e1 doesn't give much, 36 cv is only ±55% of a crit body, which is definitely not worth guaranteed 5*
you shouldn't do either and just full skip imo
ok ok, but what about E2 acheron, since I am 5 puls away from soft pity, and we got 140 pulls next patch, I can guarantee myself an E2 acheron, how big is e2 acheron with Jiaoqiu and sparkle?
@@_anlim309 e2 archeron is much stronger than e0. The dmg difference is huge
More units having weakness ignore?
Me: proceeds to save for e2 silver wolf
Imma grab e2 Acheron since i have a guarantee laying around
1 copy away form e2 dhil nothing can stop me !!
More like skippa and not Rappa
skippa skipipitor and skipcheron, 3x waiting room
Watch Fugue buff the fk out of Midppa instead of MidHill and MidFly.
@@yujin-1907If she's a break Nihility then it's unavoidable that she will buff FF as they are both fire
@@HSRFireflyI'm just memeing. Fugue gonna buff all break characters, even Himeko and Xueyi. That's just how good her kit is
@@hanabiilesleydon’t be shy let’s add skipurine there!!
Acheron needs a lot of investment, such as her Signature Lightcone, Jiaoqiu, Luka's LC, or even Pela (yes, Pela is not a free unit). So it is a huge gamble rollijg for her, considering how close we are to 3.0 and probably even stronger DPS
In 70 pulls it shouldn't be hard to get atleast 1 pela
@@MrSquishy0 it sholdn't but it happens sometimes. It happened when Acheron released - I saw someone asking for team building tips in a discord server, and that person had Acheron but no Pela. And it might happen again in the future.
@@MrSquishy0it shouldn’t but there’s no guarantee you’ll get her. I’ve seen people go over 200 in and not get a single copy of a specific 4 star
@@MrSquishy0some of us aren't very lucky
I pulled ruan mei for my DoT team over firefly and lost my 50/50 on fuxuan so I don't have a good preservation or boothill. I have a built fua team without aventurine but I want a PF dps so I'm stuck between saving for aventurine or pulling rappa
I only have lingsha as limited sustain and I'm skipping Aven even though I like him. I just don't want two sustains yet esp with 3.0 comes out I wanna see how the new sustains scale up. Lingsha is amazing for me cuz she does something else like being able to nuke the board and cc debuff constantly
Just wanna point out for people considering aventurine for Acheron, we will get new sustains in 3.X and at this point we have a dedicated sustain for every play style (ie they also have the mechanics in their kit) except DoT. HuoHuo is BiS but not dedicated, and I bet the dedicated DoT sustain will be BiS for acheron
What leaks are saying there will be a new sustain? Haven’t heard any and I keep pretty up to date
@wonderfulrose477 u don't need to follow leaks to know we'll be getting another sustain. It's just common sense
Just a guess, but I think they will somehow make the dot sustain unsynergetic with acheron.
Gallagher and Aventurine are already BIS support, unless the sutain can apply 3-4 debuffs separately they won't be better
funny how you talk about leaks but says "except dot" when the leaks literally suggest there will be a quantum dot healer
The question for me is acheron, rappa or wait for herta emenator form. I am an herta main
Being Acheron means:
Having better avarages in the last 3 cycles of 2/3 end games modes than any other DPS yet still being undervalued.
It's crazy how much the community dickrides the shilled ones uh? Fortunately the smart ones know where the value resides.
the smart one have all three and chill no matter the content.
Took a break during Penacony so 100% getting Acheron with her lightcone
Calling a whole SU update a filler patch just show if they play the game or not
I started hsr around mid firefly banner and i have absolutly no characters that are BIS for acheron (not even pela), lost my 50/50 on feixiao too, so would she be worth pulling over aventurine ? (my only sustain is ghalla (and ... lynx))
no
Get Aventurine
Pela is gonna abe on the banner !!!
Get Aventurine first, his sheilds are just too good
Boi get lingsha or aven. I'm bias for lingsha since she can be a sub dps and is essentially an erudition healer
Acheron's light cone or Aventurine? What should I get?
(Both valuablr to me honestly 😷)
Acheron without a shadow of doubt
Aventurine, Acheron will be garbo next patches while Aventurine stays on top
@@restart6358 His kit is still complete without his LC. His LC gives him more damage. As a sustain character, not providing damage is not a dealbreaker. While Acheron's LC is highly specific to her, there's a reason MrPokke rated her LC as tier 0: her damage difference with and without her LC is huge. Just like MrPokke stated, Mei does not have a BIS-3 and sustain, so her value will only rise. I'm not claiming that she will maintain tier 0, but it is highly unlikely that she will be garbage, as her kit is definitely more future-proof than Jingliu's, especially as her value increases with more debuffers being added to the game.
@@cionaed9912 oh I thought op meant Aventurine character not his lc
None, just save the pulls
Saving for that firefly e1 and tingyun.
Going to have a bit over 150 pulls going into 2.7 with a guaranteed as well after getting both FX and Lingsha. Rappa can kick rocks.
silver wolf is still hanging on actual for apocoliptic shadow at least. Silver wolf gives true weakness implant meaning they lose resistance to that weakness as well has weakness for breaking where as boothill/firefly just implant weakness for breaking but the enemy still keeps their resistances
My boy Aventurin will come home for fexiao
I don’t know if mrpokke himself add the subtitle or some random guy, but I guarantee if you keep on the subtitle in future content it’ll be really good for Chinese audiences
I think, she might not be as bad as we probably think. She is an Erudition after all, so her kit favours more in PF than MoC and AS. She will be strong there like any other Erudition unit but will be weaker in the other two mode. So the pull is not a must but rather, if we like her design or not.
IDK why people are thinking Rappa won't be strong in AS. It's not a single-target mode, it's a break mode. Rappa is a break DPS, she will be strong AS.
@@YumiSumiretell me how good she does against aventurine in AS
@@invin_2940 uh, just play Rappa against Phantylia?
Tell me how good Firefly does against Aventurine. Tell me how good Boothill does against Phantylia in AS.
@@YumiSumire firefly does pretty good against aventurine, meanwhile rappa would literally get like 2k score against him. There's the difference
@@invin_2940 And Rappa will perform better against Phantylia than Firefly. There's the difference.
You have 2 floors in AS. Let's say the 1st side you get less point because you don't have a single target break DPS, but the 2nd side you get more points because you have Rappa against AoE break content, then it balances itself out.
HSR meta is just exhausting the reason E2S1 worked in genshin is because characters werent being powercrept by the time of their reruns so low spenders had time to build up for it but hsr meta is so fast that E2S1 is too expensive and E0S0 cant maintain meta relavence it makes planning teams really unfun compared to ZZZ or Genshin because investing doesnt actually improve your account
Acheron can do pretty much the same thing as Rappa without wasting superbreak comp, and does damage even if she can't immediately break enemies. That is a skip if I've ever seen one
If rappa is Quantum, at least quantum break can push up her damage with a speedy team, idk why they keep releasing Fire and Imaginary units... 😢
Ice crying in a corner.
@@simbaaslanii2666 quantum only has Seele as a proper limited dps... Ice has Jingliu
Same predicament lol
okay hear me out, this has already happened twice. each time i pull i watched mr pokke video where he win all the 50/50 rate for lingsha and i won both times! i pulled for topaz and her light cone. now i only need to wait for aventurine rerun banner and my premium feixiao team is complete. i am gonna this ritual for aventurine too and hope it still works, thankyou mr pokke? :D
the only kit that can defeat aventurine's kit is a shielder who can cleanse his/her allies if they have his/her shield, and the shield has no turn limit
I really like Rappa's design but damn. While I am looking for a PF dps, I plan to get FF e2. When am I going to want to bench FF for Rappa. 2 characters in a row I really like the design but just cannot justify pulling. Especially with 2.7, while I do not like either of their designs more than Ling/Rappa, I would be shocked if at least one is not a must pull. I also have to consider e2 Acheron (I have e1) but I did not pick up fox and really would rather not, Acheron feels lackluster now without that support.
Aah Rappa Yoimiya of HSR
Is it ok to pull for dan heng if I don't have huohuo or sparkle? I really want him but I'm scared he's going to be useless if I don't have the other characters😞
dan heng il is really not a good choice for dps especially if you dont have sparkle in current and future patch. if you still have doubt, then dont pull him as you will regret it. Might be better to save for v3.0 dps.
Sparkle is a must for him to be decent at this point, Huo Huo is far from necessary.
I wouldn't pull for him if you're only going for e0. He needs e2 to stay relevant with units we have now.
The only reason I'd consider MY IL Dan still viable is because a) husbando b) I have HIGH investment in him (near perfect relics) and c) I have him at E2S2 with Sparkle, Ruan Mei and really any sustain works (so HH not required) and he's.. strong still but has been overshadowed by Acheron, Feixio and FF. E0 IL Dan just isn't worth it at this point. If you REALLY want him still and don't have Sparkle, then Hanya.. helps. I ran IL Dan/Hanya/Pela/Fu Xuan before Sparkle and RM came out so that is still a viable team, just far from the strongest.
As long as you like him and intend to invest in him, yes. I have mine at E2S1 with Sparkle right now, but I've played E0S1 DHIL before his first rerun (which happened before Sparkle debut). It's doable, but you need to be meticulous with his teammates.
Also, if you're going for E2 (doesn't have to be right in this banner), please note that E0-1 DHIL playstyle differs A LOT from E2. Even between all the top DPSes' eidolons, it's still the most QOL upgrade eidolon IMO. You don't need to change your playstyle with E2 Acheron, Firefly, or Feixiao but you DO with E2 DHIL ult and energy management for even more broken damage (going from ult → 3BA on E0-1 to 3BA → ult → 3BA on E2, yes, even if it means "wasting" your ult; I'm waiting for a unit to remedy this).
i have feixiao (with lc),firefly , sparkle , aventurine ,fu xuan, lingsha ,ruan mei ,kafka,black swam. Can anyone suggest me who to get im confused
PS: I like acheron but im confused
If I have e4 IL, should I push for c6?
I pulled Lingsha yesterday but I will try to get more Aventurine copies (currently E2S1)
I have 2 accs.
1st - lightspender: has E2S1 Aventurine.
2nd - f2p: has E2S1 DHIL.
You know what I'm gonna do?
PULL FOR THEIR EIDOLONS UNTIL BOTH OF MY HUSBANDOS ARE E6 BC POWERCREEP MEANS NOTHING TO COOMERS LIKE ME.
Everyone will get powercreep eventually. So pull for the characters you like. You'll never regret them. I don't even regret my JY and I'm also planning to E6 him cause who cares? You can still clear content anyway!
Physical break high and it's bleed is the strongest but no one can stack it....yet
should i still pull for aven even if i have luocha and gallagher
hypothesis: Fugue replaces hmc for super break teams. Dot is dead
If thats the case it would be too wild imo. Firefly superbreak team was already the strongest, then they added a 5* upgrade for gallagher. If they also add an upgrade for HMC that would be a bit much??
no need if you have 2 break dps like me. I have both Boothil and Firefly.
HMC stay with Mecha girl while i giving my nine tailed fox for cowboy.
@@Tiasungit just seems that the hsr dev team really likes super break because it's basically confirmed that fugue gives super break capabilities to the entire team with just her talent instead of hmc with his/her ult. She can also hyperbuff a single super break DPS with her skill. So She can either replace hmc or even Ruan Mei for super break teams.
I'm actually screwed I'm rolling for every character except DHIL and I want Acheron LC too
That’s all and good, but Ima get E2 Acheron :D
Feixiao was my first dps so i kinda have to get another... S1 ACHERON HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!
So… with all that already happened. If in the future I want to have 1 E6 character. Maybe support character is a better investment rather than E6 dps? 😁
Definitely
"50% effect res isn't game changing."
I know. That's why my 88% effect res Luocha is still incomplete. I need it 100%.
yeah the more I think about it the more it looks like this whole patch is skippable, Rappa seems nice but I don't have problems with PF as of now, DHIL is just ehhh now especially at E0 and I already have E2 S1 Ache and E0 Aven, the only thing I'm considering as of now is just vertical investment on either S1 or E1 Aven, other than that hard skip till 2.7 where the bombs are at
acheron lightcone or aventurine? i don't have any limited sustain and boundles e3
(and aventurine is the last piece for my fart team
@@Silio-pz1ocAventurine, probably powercreep proof for FuA until 4.x at the very minimum
Best to cut your losses with Acheron at this point
@@Silio-pz1oc def aventurine
Rappa has one major flaw... she's got the 1st (imo) true must pull LC for a character in the game if things remain as they are. That LC screams "should've been base kit" but it isn't the case. Plus the other 3 units have more compelling reasons to pull with certain things considered. Aventurine is soo him that even with multiple limited /fully built solo sustains he's still very compelling to a lot of people especially now that hoolay is a thing. Acheron is still a top 3 dps if not top 1 and a lot of people who have her might consider her eidolons over an e0s1 rappa. Dhil e2 is still top 5 dps in the game if speed tuned correctly and he proper also more compelling to people as an overall imaginary dps than rappa.
It's not even a matter of if rappa is good or not cause she objectively will be by proxy of simply being a superbreak dps...but the other 3, their LC have a much stronger argument for almost every player category in the game. She's not even a luxury pull cause we have P.G units that are most likely still better than her...she's simply a for fun pull...and that's ok. It's good even. We need more of those.
Im at E0S2 Acheron, she gonna be E2
I thought Rappa patch would be low earnings but i guess with Acheron and Aventurine on the cards that won't be an issue 🎉
Still pulling for DHIL eidolons. Sitting at E1S1, I need that E2
The first all type shred forgotten…. Xueyi!
I have zero limited sustains, all in dps use gepard and Gallagher :(
I think I pull for adventurine
All in for him. If you have Gepard LC, you don't really need to pull for Aventurine LC because defensively, Gepard LC is better. Increased aggro to stack talent faster, and bonus defense up to 48% when attacked (which is most likely all the time) which helps with his defense stat if you can't get it to 4k.
@@SchifferThe2nd i have gepards lc and i agree, i think the only real use cases for aventurines cone is if you really want to build him dps, or if you use him with ratio/acheron
I will pull Danil e2 because i have danil e1s1
It's been so long since I last felt comfortable just skipping the whole patch. We need more filler banners tbh
tldr; DOT is still dead
Acheron falling off as a DPS is still insane to me. They really need to watch the powercreep more.
they wont. it's the reason the game has been making so much money afterall.
Fun fact
Acheron E2 opens up a slot for boothill and takes endgame modes from easy mod to Fk it I dunno how to build a team and don't care about C0 but I'll finish this in 1 cycle mod
can a free to play with a guaranteed 50 pity get all four?
I have E0S1 Acheron I'm going for E1S1 and the next time she comes up I'm going for E2S1 so on and so forth.
Hot take, Rappa will be the new Jing Yuan and is just a passable unit. Pray to god not 🙏
I agree with chinese players and unfortunately I think I will not be getting Acheron S1 as there is big chance she may soon get benched. It's simply more beneficial for me to pull for a future 3.0 DPS (that also may not rely on their lightcone). Anyway at her E0S0 she never felt like a T0 unit on my account.
Unless they powercreep Acherons technique then yea I'll still pull Acheron for that.
she never was T0, she's a slight upgrade from DHIL and Jingliu, but Firefly, Feixiao, sometimes even Yunli, outclass her. Backloaded damage is always gonna be worse in a game where we want to win as fast as possible, it is much better to do numerous instances of some damage 4 to 6 times per cycle than a fuck ton of damage twice per cycle. Acheron could only be fixed if she got two Jioaqiu, but I hardly believe we will get another battery for her any time soon
even playing clara is better than e0 acheron tbh. the nihility limitation really hurts you if you don't have JQ or BS. SW is too slow and Gui doesn't have def shred which mean her buffs get saturated by acheron's high atk and dmg% stats.
Then in 3.0 we wait for 4.0 dps, in 4.0 we wait for 5.0 dps, and so on
@@Yor-Yor-Yorexactly 😢
Boothil still not "big 3" smh
he will be after fugue, I expect firefly and boothill to be on top then like feixiao is now
He is already better than Acheron at E0S0 honestly. Everyone got the prydwen brain rot. With Fugue coming its not even a question, Fugue is a huge buff for him
@@Yor-Yor-Yor being better than E0S0 Ach without JQ is a low bar, every T0 and t0.5 DPS easily clears it
@@27Ganon including JQ
he better for 0 cycles than ff and maybe acheron tho (feixiao still the queen of 0c)
I have 0 good erudition units other than e6 Herta I might have to get rappa. Cause I already have fexaio and boothill. I already demolish moc, simulated universe, and apocaliptic shadow. But I always do terrible in pure fiction. The only erudition units I have is serval, qinque, herta, and jing yuan.
Saying you should skip Aventurine because he'll be powercrept in the future is such a stupid opinion lol
Should I wait until Diamond to pull for a sustain?