Which RMC Has the MOST Prime Ride Time? | RMC By the Numbers
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- My very first prime ride time video was on the coasters of RMC back in early 2020. Almost 4 years later, let's revisit them with all the new tactics I've picked up over time, and add all the new ones that have been added since 2020.
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Arie force one is proof numbers aren’t everything. Middle of the road stats, but uber-intense and ultra elite ride experience. Great vid as always
Honestly, RMC in general is proof that stats aren't everything. The small raptors are very intense rides, as is Storm Chaser.
That said, clearly having a gigantic lift hill does help quite a bit with pacing and intensity when it comes to RMC because they use that speed well.
Yeah its lower pacing stats surprised me. Also the fact that wicked cyclone is so good despite being 4th to last in pacing
No it’s proof his ranking system is flawed it should be # of elements throughout the ride time and track length. With his logic you could just go ride straight track for twenty seconds and be the best paced coaster on earth.
@@randalheller7460it’s not a ranking system based on how good the rides are, it’s just factual statistics. Sure, your example would be the best paced ride in the world, but no one said pacing=the best ride. Iirc, arie force one is his second favorite RMC, number 3 overall (I think?). These are just numbers, not opinions or personal preferences
@@randalheller7460 pacing is really a matter of speed. You're speaking about the more intangible aspects of coasters which reflect diversity and thrill level. A coaster could have nothing but unbanked turns that come every 15 feet and have more elements throughout the layout than a faster coaster but whether or not that makes it "well paced" is really dependent on how good those elements are. Wild Mouse coasters often have more individual elements than larger coasters but I don't think that makes them better paced just because the quantity of elements is high.
He's being objective in his comparisons and his pacing ranking reflects the average velocity. Yes, a coaster with straight track that averages 80 mph would be well paced by that definition. It doesn't mean it's good, just fast.
None of these rankings reflects how good or action packed the rides are. But that's not what he's going for. I could add that "prime ride time" is subjective because highly themed coasters might have prime moments when the train is stopped or before the lift hill. But he's focusing on average coaster speed which is objective.
Interesting to see Wildcat's Revenge at only 12th in pacing. The PERCEPTION of the pace for me was VERY HIGH, maybe due to the winding and criss/crossing layout? That thing HAULS on a night ride and is in my top 5 overall coasters. Absolutely love it. Hershey Park has a gem worth travelling for.
These numbers may vary widely depending on temperature and time of day too
Getting faster and faster throughout the day seems to be a common characteristic of RMCs. Every single one I've rode has gotten considerably faster throughout the day, although I can't say that for sure about the raptors. I always end up getting assigned different seats through the day and the ride experience is just so different (and so wild) from one seat to another that I can't compare.
@Studio732JRL I'm not implying people ARE travelling for it, I'm advocating that they SHOULD be. It's my #4 coaster overall, and my #2 coaster made by RMC. It's exceptional.
@Studio732JRL I am challenging the notion that it isn't a top RMC.
@Studio732JRL it's a lot like ArieForce One - The stats and visuals aren't super impressive but the ride hits really hard. Both are top tier.
RMC is the perfect example of quality over quantity
I knew there would be a jump between JD and WW but I didn’t expect it to be so drastic.
Lol fr same
Not one of these are a bad ride. Amazing company!
3:03 I don't Goliath was meant to be cloned. The reason why it's so compact/short is because it was built on the plot of land where Iron Wolf used to sit.
It seemed like dubai park was going to have one before it got scrapped. Flat rectangular plot of land it just seems so cloneable
Phenomal ride, that stall is epic
Wicked Cyclone remains firmly at my number three overall. Earlier this year, Hakugei came in hot to be my new number four. It might have actually displaced WC but it was hard for me to compare since it was August in Japan (aka stupidly hot) and I was definitely suffering from some heat exhaustion and/or residual headache from Nagashima’s janky old Arrow corkscrew.
This shows that it's not as important how fast the train goes. It's about what the ride does and the profiling of the elements. Storm Chaser, Twisted Timbers, & Wicked Cyclone are relentless and so strong. They may not cover ground as fast as some others, but the elements are world class, and you move rapidly from one element to the next.
I wanted a new version of this video and it's now here
Wicked Cyclone was my very first RMC, and it will always hold a special place in my heart. I've now ridden a total of 5 RMCs (Wicked Cyclone, SteVe, JD, Iron Gwazi, Wildcats Revenge), and with the exception of JD, they are all my favorite coasters in their respective parks. Goes to show that prime ride time doesn't make or break a ride. Always love watching these vids and seeing how some of my favorite coasters I have ridden, match up to those I haven't. Keep up the great work!!!
Another enthusiast asked me when we were going up the lift of Iron Gwazi which I preferred more. Steel Vengeance or Iron Gwazi? I had to say Steel Vengeance strictly due to its ride length and how it really doesn't let up throwing you out of your seat, not to mention all the track inside of the structure. I was really surprised when they were building Iron Gwazi that there was no mid-course. I feel like the coaster has too much potential still when you hit the brake run. But Iron Gwazi packs a quick and effective punch, and both Steel Vengeance and Iron Gwazi are great coasters in their own regard. Your By the Numbers really backs up how I feel about the two.
Iron gwazi is definitely more aggressive. It feels like it has another 1000 feet left in it by the end
I cannot thank you enough for seemingly being the only content creator out there who realizes that if two things are tied for #1, the one behind them is #3, not #2.
Awesome to see a remake of this! I hope some of the other earlier ones like Magic Mountain get the same treatment, since they don’t always cover all the stats.
I think I started putting in my new methods with the SFMM episode because i realized comparing coasters with lifts vs launches was impossible without taking out the lift
When I rode Steel Vengeance, I was like this thing ever end? lol. It was crazy, my first ride ended up being a night ride. I almost think Maverick is the better ride at CP though. Thanks for the video, lot of work put into this!
Maverick is a great ride! I’d drive to CP just to ride it. Magnum and Blue Streak are just icing on the cake!
Steel vengeance gives you that feeling. Just like voyage and helix
This confirmed what I already knew…. Iron Gwazi’s pacing is relentless!
Wicked Cyclone absolutely hauls in the rain
I’ve only managed to ride Zadra and I loved it. Nice to know if I can only ride one it’s one of the best 😀
Untamed is soooo much better than its stats tell you. It’s insane how much it wants to yank you into space. Plus that first inversion is bonkers - Schilke is a genius.
Planning to get on Wildcats Revenge at Hersheypark soon...
Wait until it’s warmer again. In the heat, the front is king. Now that it is getting cooler, the back seems to be the best seat in the house.
Great ride, looks awesome and delivers on the elements, jus with it was a lil longer
I want "Which SLC has the most Prime ride time?"
Maybe for 1st of April next year?
Its wild to me how the Raptors may be the smallest of the bunch but its short time is made up for being an INSANE ride.
The pacing number really depends because RMCs always run so slow in the morning
Not With Storm Chaser Hakugei Twisted Timbers Or Jersey Devil Tho
I am absolutely in love with Iron Gwazi , the most fun and extremely intense coaster I have ever been on
It will be interesting to see how the lift hill changes Lightning Rod in terms of pacing but until then it is in the upper tier in terms of pacing. A fact that most people would not have guessed. Been on 21 different RMC's and morning vs later in the day rides play a big factor in some of these.
Yeah temperature and time of day makes a difference. I try to kind of offset this by clocking actual youtubers povs and not using the park pov which is usually before the park opens or before the ride opens to the public, and with an empty train
Imho, Zadra is king of RMCs, great video
Awesome video, I would suggest also showing the airtime with RMC's, considering airtime is arguably their most bold element🙌
Out of all of them, I would definitely say the RMC I-Boxes because they have the most Prime Ride Time than most RMC coasters.
I feel like JDC has better pacing since you’ve ridden it last. When the ride first opened it was really sluggish but it’s really broken in and the last hills actually give strong floater/weak ejector now
OT is my home park and Texas Giant is #2 imo. #1 definitely goes to Outlaw Run at SDC. And now RMC is building the new Fire In the Hole at SDC. Let's see where it holds up in comparison next year
YESSSS! I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO SEE THE RECREATION OF RMC BY THE NUMBERS FOR SO LONG! 50/10 VIDEO
I feel very bad for SFOG when they were mocked for having Twisted Cyclone being an extremely short ride. It’s a masterpiece when I rode it for the first time. Hopefully sooner or rather later, they’ll receive a large scale Raptor in order for them to have a true stand out RMC in their lineup
Steel vengeance is my favorite coaster and I really want to see an RMC wildcat (lake compounce)
How about a version of this series, where you take all of the stats together, average them out and get overall rankings for each coaster.
wittkevin correct
Cool to revisit the RMC line up like this... and man i wish they had squeezed another lap for goliath... all that speed and height and just does 6 things, it might do them well, but more elements and it could have been truely elite
I agree its got decent length but only 4 good elements
They all look like a real blast. I'd love to ride them. Steel Vengeance is a real badass.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Give us the world's snake themed coasters, by the numbers please! Storm Chaser is my favorite RMC. Its the easiest one to get on.
I love Twisted Colossus, but the fact that it has two lift hills AND is shorter than Hakugei, Zadra, and SteVe really upsets me. Also, JD is better than WW no matter what. WW banged me up real good. I got 2 rides on it when I was there, and I've gotten 4 total rides on JD across my 2 visits, and I got an incredible front row night ride on it which switched my opinion around.
I've still only ridden one RMC, and that is Wicked Cyclone. It's my favorite coaster, edging out a couple of phenomenal hypercoasters by a hair. If most other RMCs are better, as many people claim, I need to ride them. In prime ride time, it's a longer ride than I thought.
Other rmcs are more aggressive but i think WiCy overall is in the elite tier
New Texas Giant's ranking confirmed to me that ride is underrated!
My favorite series from air time thrills. Heck yes. Good start to this what seems to be a crappy week on paper.
I hate crappy weeks on paper
@@AirtimeThrills no doubt brother lol.
50 seconds is enough for most riders with these intense and fast paced layouts. Damn is JD that bad or is it the wheels?
Always love a good By The Numbers video! I have to mention my unpopular RMC opinions though.
I got my first and only rides (for now) on Lightning Rod back in March of 2023 when it was in the 30s-low 50s, and despite these conditions, it became my favorite RMC! I am not an airtime-only type of enthusiast, so a ride like Steel Vengeance, while still incredible, does not appease me as much as a ride that does more than just airtime. Lightning Rod has amazing airtime while being extremely aggressive with all its forces, including its speed and even positive Gs. You feel like the ride is trying to rip you in half. Also, "slowing down" the launch only affected the Dolly. I've timed all sorts of POVs from all the years starting on the first drop, and all clocked in at around 40 seconds.
Lightning Rod is my favorite RMC and ranks 5th overall in my list. Only Fury 325 (#4), Intimidator 305 (#3), VelociCoaster (#2), and The Voyage (#1) beat it for me. It's an insane ride and while I'm a little sad to see it lose its launch, I'm very excited for a reliable ride with 2-train ops!
My personal RMC rankings:
1. Lightning Rod - Reasoning listed above.
2. Steel Vengeance - It never ends! Still not as aggressive as I want it to be and too focused on airtime, but the sheer quantity puts it here. It used to be my number one before I realized I prefer coasters that either combine a mix of forces (ex. Fury 325, VelociCoaster, The Voyage) or try to kill you (ex. Intimidator 305).
3. Twisted Timbers - Sometimes I prefer this to Steel Vengeance, mainly because the airtime is MUCH more powerful.
4. Storm Chaser - I loved it, but it is not the most aggressive RMC I've ridden. I thought Twisted Timbers was a lot more aggressive.
5. Goliath - Very underrated! It is not a long ride, but packs a huge punch!
6. Twisted Colossus - The dueling experience would rank higher, but looking at how the ride normally runs, you can tell these elements were built for dueling. They don't hit as hard individually.
I’m calling it, Steel vengeance is first lol
You should make top 10 or top 15 longest coasters in the world ranked by prime ride time.
I went on wonderwoman at magic mountain and it felt just as fast as the baby raptors. Trims were completely off on fright fest, no slow down or anything just straight through the straight track. Pretty good. One of better rides at magic mountain. Makes steel colosis less cool at mm.
I was surprised about how low ArieForce One ranked in prime ride time.
I feel there's no way JDC is dead last in pacing unless the POV was before it warmed up. It's like giving Iron Gwazi's it's stats based on the first ride in the morning. It is night and day between when it's warmed up and not, so I can only assume the POV gave it bad pacing.
Making the Pythagorean theorem useful since 2020
Says a certain shirt out there
Dude you need to add the amount of elements covered in the pacing stat. The way you do it straight track at top speed could make or break a coasters pacing which doesn’t make any sense. Pacing is about how fast a coaster takes “x” amount of elements, not just how fast it covers the track.
My biggest surprise is that Zadra has more pacing than Iron Gwazi. That honestly shocks me and I LOVE Iron Gwazi because of that incredible pacing that feels out of control.
That’s very interesting
Have you done Zadra? I've not done IG but I can't even fathom a ride having better pacing than Zadra.
@@TheWolfXCIX I’ve never been to Europe before so sadly no
But Iron Gwazi is just an insane ride to say the least from start to finish.
Kind of wild to see that despite it always being criticized for being "too short" Goliath is actually longer than Outlaw Run is, which you never hear criticized for its length. Must be that crazy pacing just fooling everyone.
I actually say OR is a short ride. But its pacing definitely makes it feel way shorter than it is
I'm legitimately shocked Iron Gwazi wasn't number 1 in pacing.
It's painfully close
people think goliath is short but it just has good pacing
True. I dont like how it only has 4 worthwhile elements
Buy or sell: Great Adventure uses parts from Top Thrill Dragster for Kingda Ka now because the companies have merged.
Goliath is an underrated coaster is what I took from this video...
supermefan it is
Before: I wouldn't usually recommend this, but if Steal Vengeance doesn't have the most prime ride time: in November 2023: I'll volunteer to die in the longest and most painful way possible. I cast Airtime Thrills as "God". I also Know Wonder Woman Golden Lasso, Railblazer and Stunt Pilot will have the shortest prime ride time, the shortest, followed by Twisted Cyclone.
After: You did exactly what I'd predicted. Thanks for posting!
"heigth" is not a word
Where in the video did he put that because I only see the correct spelling.
If i misspelled it once then its mispelled everywhere
I think you said it lol. Still loved the video@@AirtimeThrills
he said it@@ShockinSammy
In my opinion no coasters in the Cedar Flags chain should be getting scraped anymore, considering that there are so many smaller/lesser parks for them to go to. Like SFA, Frontier City, Darien lake, Worlds of fun, La Ronde, and more.
I am really surprised that Lightning Rod is so high up there… from my two rides this October, it felt only a little longer than Twisted Cyclone. The layout part anyway.
My first guess would be steel vengeance
texas giant is amazing
Everyone says goliath at sfgam was "made to be cloned" when its always been 100% speculation. Iron wolf was never cloned (epmhpais on the word clone). It's not a fact, still speculation, however likely us enthusiasts think it is.
Both Wicked Cyclone and Jersey Devil have been running faster this year, especially Wicked Cyclone’s third laps.
Another great vid by Airtime Thrills
Wildcat’s Revenge (ranking at #13a) will get me to drive an hour and a half every couple of weeks. I think it’s that good!Ranking at #12 in almost every category, I see why it should rank higher than most of my other RMCs. As for the rest of my ridden RMC’s, I feel it still delivers a better ride than Wicked Cyclone, which sux. I also like it better than Lightning Rod, mainly because WR packs a punch in such a compact foot print, and it’s reliable. I need to ride Steel Vengeance more because I didn’t get the hype. I never felt much love for Millennium Force either. But SV make the number crunchers happy💦
Love your videos man! Keep it up!
I’m surprised that all 3 European rmcs ended up having the same prime ride time.
Didn't even notice that
Can you do another tier list for the new combined Cedar Fair and Six Flags company. I’m curious if any of the top tier parks will be downgraded and have less priority in terms of investment from the company.
Great vid as always
I have been asking for this
Next: Arrow Corkscrews By the Numbers
I’m interested to see what the prime ride time and pacing would be for Iron Gwazi in the morning and at night.
Most RMCs suffer from this slow to warm up issue but Iron Gwazi seems to have it worst.
How it's in a warm climate so it should be much quicker?
I know everyone wants to see the mythical RMC T-Rex. If and when it gets built, how do you feel the pacing would be? I can imagine that it would probably have a very long track which could mess with pacing, however, The speed and height will be insane. Where do you think a creature like T-Rex could land on a fun and informative list like this?
Part of me wants to see something that rides like Steel Vengeance, only more hardcore, but part of me can also see it being a smooth and long ride with pops of airtime, but also great like 325? Do you see T-Rex falling in between these two or will it be just cray-Z?
The drop on Lightning Rod is 150ft. The actual height is 206ft.
i think its funny how all the raptors are the first things then WWFOC and jersey devil are in the top 10
Long and sluggish
@@AirtimeThrillsI loved JD more than I thought I would, it’s a beauty of a ride that delivers everything you want in a single rail
I always wanted this!
RMC needs to stick with their slightly slower, longer layouts, then iron gwazi type. If you got the height and speed... USE IT. Don't let it all go to waste on breaks.
I know this Is not a Buy or Sell video, but in the wake of the Six Flags/Cedar Fair merger, which rides from Great America could you see being moved to Discovery Kingdom when Great America closes?
i have often timed Steal Vengeance from the prime time and it is 82 secens it is ofen windy and in back seat when that happens
Wicked Cyclone at SFNE ran faster this year, and was actually completing the cycle in 52 seconds. It also hit 56 mph during the year. How does that affect the pacing?
If its "by the numbers", then why is outlaw run above golaith, when goliaths numbers all higher than outlaw run? I guess it's cuz time in seconds is the only # actually considered.
I don't know why I feel like lightning rod is shorter than iron rattler?🤔
LRod fooled me too. The launched lift just gives the illusion that its short
@Airtime thrills.
But it sure will feel longer with the chainlift instead of launch!
Lightning Rod's prime ride time shouldn't begin until after the train enters the pre-drop directly after the lift hill. I wouldn't count any other rides lift hill, not sure why you're counting this one. Would be different if it was still a true launch, but not as Maverick's lift hill. lol
I think the launched lift is thrilling enough to consider it prime ride time
Um actually the 315 foot RMC that I built in planet coaster is better than all of these sooooo.
Dang how could i forget
Huh, wouldn't have guessed that Stunt Pilot adding two cars made it *slower.*
Seems like every coaster with longer trains runs a little more sluggish
Guess there's a point where the added friction outweighs the added momentum. In any event, Roller Coaster Tycoon lied to me.
SteVe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Any new RMCs coming soon?
Family coaster for silver dollar city replacing fire in the hole in 2024. Also a pair of raptors for one of the walibi parks in 2025
Steel vengeance is 205 ft tall not 200ft.
I go by drop when the stats available
I think zadra is faster than iron gwazi
WICKED
W Airtime Thrills and buy or sell: by 2050-2060 universal is going to destroy Harry Potter land and expand jurassic world with an RMC Hybrid themed to the Jurassic World movies
I don’t see it. Universal is not going to destroy Harry Potter World
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hi, first
Hey chris, you got the height of steel vengeance wrong. Its 205, same as magnum
Drop is 200 though. I know I use height and drop interchangeably, but that's because some coasters have a height stat and not a drop stat. I use drop when available.
@@AirtimeThrills ah okay man, makes sense 💯