He gives her a library. And, more importantly, he learns how to pay attention to her cues and then he actively tries to do things that will bring her joy and make her feel seen and respected. And even though he doesn't always get it right, it's his earnest effort that really starts to change Belle's heart.
Guys jeez try to read deeper... try even to read full stop 😅 fairytail are not skindeep. They are packed with double meanings and powerful archetype. The story is about a woman making a cursed man going from beast back to man with her love. That's the archetype that guy is talking about and you can find it in many maaany popular media.
@@chrisathian5450 GURL this makes me so happy to hear 🥰 I don’t know u but I know u deserve that. I never let anyone do that for me except him & it feels so nice & it feels so nice too to treat him like a king especially bc I know nobody did that for him 😭🤚🏼🩵 I always went for the ones who were overly nice to me & overly nice to EVERYONE but realized I personally need a beast who is an angel to me bc I am such a pushover oh my godddd🤣🤣😭😭( he is kind but not like OVERLY, it’s like just authentic kindness & care for humanity - while I am way too much sometimes ) anyways bless you and I wish you a long & healthy happy life together 😘😘😘
All of the girls I knew were afraid of my hubby when I met him (like activity avoided him while we were at work lvl of afraid of him)... reality is that he's such an incredibly good man. He's sweet and does everything he can for the kids and me, but I know he's capitals of keeping all of the true monsters away from our family as well
my boyfriend was a hothead and had humor some people wouldn't like. not a lot of girls got along with him because nobody else wanted to handle him. but what nobody knew was the "beast" was a front. he was gentle and would have done anything for me. he was the kindest person ive ever met. he was my beast. I love reading and science and he was a strong hero and caring person. he was selfless. he died on Monday being the beast and protective man he has always been. ladies- find your beast.
I'm sorry for your loss. Your beast will always protect you, until you meet again. Remember, every day you wake up, is a day closer to seeing him again.
Monique enters the "story"and makes a statement. Stuart enters and shames her like a Disney villain. Slobro rides in on his dragon and defends Monique's honor. Disney movie!
that wasn't what the movie was about. she didn't like the beast at all because he was generally a jerk, and she only warmed up to him once he began letting his guard down and became kinder. that's how it works.
@@laveniajohnson2283 i wasn't trying to school anyone. i was commenting that the point of the movie was to be kind, and that belle didn't love the beast until he was. that's what happened/
I would urge you to read the original fairytale about the beauty and the beast. You can find it on RUclips either on *a little bit frank* or * a bit late*. I'm curious if you change your mind after that.
When my sister and i were little kids, beauty and the beast had first come out. the first thing we thought when the beast turned back into the prince was "the prince is ugly....i like the beast better"😂 I love this explanation It doesn't put anyone down This is absolutely a beautiful perspective of relationships
The beast never was a ‘bad boy’. She didn’t like him at first. BUT he started paying attention to her, what she liked, expanded her mind with the library, learned kindness. And only in changing his toxic ways, she began feeling for him. What frikkin fantasy this man is talking about i don’t know. He missed the mark. And the beast didn’t have options. The story isn’t about taming the beast, it was about patience and understanding. Jeez
He's talking about the real story not the disney one xD but even in the movie yes the beast is bad boy. He has anger issues and is egoistical. That's why he was cursed in the first place. But for her he change into a man, quite litteraly. That's the archetype the man is talking about. 😅 you can find this in many popular chickflick. Pride and prejudice twilight etc...
I believe the Beast and Guston were both terrible, but Th Beast was much worse. First the Beast imprison Belle's dad because he got lost. Belle was no threat. The Beast is very strong and he has an army of furniture. Her dad was literally about to die and the Beast literally didnt care. Instead of letting Belle dad go, the Beast rather her dad die. Belle sacrificed herself and Beast just said yes instead having a heart and letting both go. The Beast wasnt even nice to Belle and screamed at the top of his lungs her for not eating dinner with him when is imprisoned which freaking crazy. He exploded when she went to the wrong room. The Beast is super controlling, evil, and cruel. Anybody who think the Beast isnt nothing but evil is blind. The Beast cant even read and Belle favorite thing is to read. I wonder when the dad was sick and imprisoned by the Beast... he though this Beast will be the perfect husband for my daughter. This story is Ridiculous!
Depends. Funny can also be sociopathic. Had a friend with which we could laugh our asses off for no reason endlessly, seemed to have that connection and triggered my earliest sense of humour. He ended up using me as a tool, when i was genuine and disinterested. Helped him many times, never wanted to give me the actual stable friend thing back. He exploited me and tried to out me down whenever he could as if all this time he was admiring me with a feeling of jealousy. I didnt care about his dark side because i loved him regardless. Great relationship even if he chose to betray and leave
What beauty and the beast did he watch? Belle was disinterested in relationships in general and HATED the beast at the start. She didn't go to him because he was " tamable" , he kidnapped her sick father and was worried he'd die locked up in the castle, she only gave him a chance when he changed and became kind and compassionate , and loved him when she saw how much he was willing to sacrifice for her and her father. The moral of the whole damm story is that your looks only get you so far( in the case of gaston) but your personality and how you treat the others around you is what seals and completes the deal. This dude is on a wild delulu trip. Also this guy did not just call women who are victims of abuse dumb and naive.
Stupid women do like them....and they are not victims....they are knowingly attracted to their bad traits. Any guy that has ever been a SIMP understands this.
Has he watched the movie? She is not picking the beast, she exchanged her fathers freedom for hers. Then the beast saves her life and she understands that only his outer appearance is of a beast, but he is a good, caring person.
😂 Did you only watch the first 30min of the movie? Belle definitely chose the Beast. They fell in love after he saved her from the wolves. She taught him to read. She ran to save him at the climax of the movie.🤷🏾♀️
According to two advice websites one claims you can never tame a narcissist & they can never change, whilst one other website says that maybe some narcissist are able to reform and change and be aware of their condition
Knowing the difference between arrogance and real confidence be careful there is a fine line between the two, but not if you know what your looking on.
Dont tell a man about ALL YOUR TRAUMA, failed relationships, pain, past sins, weakness, etc... he will use that against you. Don't tell a new man what you like In a man, that weasel of a demon that's occupying that body will pretend to be what you described until he hook you, if he's a broken, traumatized child in an adult body (a narcissist) he will use all that information against you also. Let him show you who he is, it won't take him long. Demons are impatient & rages with anger. And do NOT 1. Get all excited if you go to dinner, buy you flowers etc.. 2. Do NOT give him the oh nah nah! Keep your precious body on lock for the single, ready for a woman to be a wife, ready to be YOUR husband, Born-again, Holy Ghost filled, Baptized, profoundly in love, surrendered his whole lifeto the Lord Jesus Christ. His life will bare the fruit if he's genuine. Watch for the🚩. You ain't thirsty & You ain't no prostitute. Sis, YOU have been warned ⚠️.
Is this why "Beauty and the Beast" is literally my favorite Disney movie. 🤷♀️. I learned from a young age. The movie was great! I watched it many times.
He is spot on. I don’t think there are many men that fit the profile of a strong good looking man while having a tender demeanor. Someone that will stand up for you in all ways and be giving and sharing is a rare combination.
In that, like stockholm syndrome, it's fictional, and like stockholm syndrome, you have no idea what you're talking about when you make smartass comments about it that you read somewhere else on the internet? Yes, in those two regards they are quite similar.
@@Merlewhitefire give me the definition of Stockholm syndrome then if I don’t know what I’m talking about. Fictional doesn’t mean it can’t be Stockholm syndrome.
@@atheistskeptic8748 Stockholm syndrome was retroactive propaganda used to justify the fact that the police in the Stockholm robbery incident were more reckless with the hostage's lives than the robbers were, leading the hostages to turn on them. Even if it was real and had any actual evidentiary basis, it never had anything to do with romance or the idea that people would fall in love with somebody who imprisoned them.
@@atheistskeptic8748Stockolm Syndrome implies that the victim sympathises with the captor or thinks to deserve punishment from him/her In BatB I'd say that belle gives a chance to the beast once he starts lowering his guard and not being a beast., that's different from my perspective.
Tale of leaving the village man and going with a beast .beast who isn't really a beast just looks from outside as one and actually kind , caring and all that .but the villager man was also the same from inside
No actually it's not. Wait till you find your your dream tale man has another family somewhere or left you out of his will or gave you a disease or was a criminal mastermind. You are interpreting this all wrong..women have to take a very tight line which means 99.999% of men do not qualify. You think your man qualifies but after studying men I realize most women are profoundly deluded.
@@macrofrommicro6241 no the villager was a different kinda full of ego sexist chasing but the rest accurate. My husband was rough on the outside emotionally because of his past but with time love patience time and support he found his way.
"Now you have someone that can keep the real beasts at bay" 💯 but only until she could see herself ,the beauty within the beast. Now she has something to connect with.
It doesn't mean the man is a horrid being, it means he is tough and has patches that made him mean in some way but he still has a pretty good/ok moral compass with capacity for improvement
True, but also men and Gentlemen are not the same. I have seen men treat Ladies worse then dirt and after they left screaming how they are toxic and repeat the cycle. The Beast changes in the presence of a Lady. Now will a Man want to do the same or just think he is the Man so deal with it woman?
I'm living this in my marriage for the most part. The only thing that isn't actually accurate is that women are NOT to try to tame the beast. The beast chooses to tame himself only around her. Respect means not trying to change the other person, but being supportive enough for them that they feel free to change on their own.
Bell took her fathers place as a prisoner after the beast kidnapped him. Later he gives her a master library to bribe her compliance. The movie is better example of the dangers of stock holm syndrome. Guston was a total narcisist but also the strongest in the village by far. Bell was smart, beautiful, and arrogant. No one in the village was good enough. Took a literal prince to bring her on board with the idea of companionship after being his extended prisoner. She would have happily just kept reading books. No interest in anyone at all. All of Jordans points are solid about the trials of women finding their spouse but it feels like he is reaching a bit with this movie.
One of whom trued to kill her? Was not the mansion with lots of servants, she was not afraid of hard work since she was the only daughter of a merchant who had 3 sons. Read the real Grim story. What the Beast had was a mansion with books and people who were kind, full of places where she could just be by herself and he could observe her while she let him see her so she could make him feel accepted even though he was a beast. What won the curse was not money, was comprehension, reciprocal trust and the will to be heard in the noise of no words.
Men are more inclined to think money and power. Is normal he feels the girl went for the money😅. In the original story, the castle was cold and very uncomfortable, she suffers in there and was scared. The Beast in time makes it a comfortable place. If he reads the real story he will understand that the Beast made a house for the girl even if he wasn’t in love. Hopefully he also will find inspiration to first be the man than deserve the real woman. Unfortunately men today are too spoiled and women are not real 😂
The other issue is that every loser village woman thinks she's Beauty so none of them want the loser village men and they all chase after Beast or Gaston and everyone loses.
A loser is someone who doesn't shoot their shot. All you have to do is ask and you immediately advance from loser, even if you miss your shot. It works both ways. Just remember, if they were kind enough to ask respectfully, be kind enough to decline respectively, if you're truly not interested. First, get comfortable with making requests for yourself. Good practice is ordering from a restaurant menu with confidence. This shows YOURSELF that you understand what you want and are not afraid to ask for it. Once you can talk to a waiter or waitress with RESPECT and CONFIDENCE, you will gain the confidence to invite someone to eat there with you. The bottom line is the difference between a no and a yes is YOUR confidence. The part about being generous and productive, sharing, is demonstrated by picking up the check. The person who ASKS, is expected to pick up the check. If the person who was ASKED on the date, knows that there will not be a second date, it would be good to offer the split the check. This is a kind way to communicate that you appreciate the opportunity but there was no connection, without having an awkward conversation about it. If the person asks why, tell the truth using kind words, like you would give to console a sibling or friend. Be in their corner but make your intentions clear. Don't tolerate abuse or disrespect. You don't have to make a scene, unless you need to because the situation has become unsafe.
I was thinking something similar. He was turned into a beast for being a horrible person. And Gaston was going to have her father committed into an insane asylum to have her. He wanted to kill the beast as a trophy to prove his masculinity. Getting Belle was just another perk but still all about him. One was a reformed narcissist, Beast. Gaston was a narcissist who had not been humbled yet.
@@lillybelle544i rewatched part of the movie and you make a good point.. in my memory Gaston tried to save Belle but she was already back in the village when they came for the beast
He’s absolutely right, but only immature woman that are still finding themselves would try to tame a beast, I’m not doing that, come right or don’t come at all. I’m not doing all that extra unnecessary crap, you’re a grown man. If you can’t live up to my expectations, then we don’t need to be seeing each other.
That is why you are not a Belle but one of the girl in the village. 🤷🏻♀️ Takes a woman to tame a beast, and she needs a lot of strength in herself to keep herself grounded and never give into the beastly nature. That is not possible if you are egoists and not wanting to do the hard work, because expectations means you are looking for something that you want, but will not give the same back. Who tames the beast, has done the work in herself and now has x-ray vision to distinguish rough diamonds
@@user-me6cf6hr8b how did you know? Well, let me tell you, he is the best husband and man a woman can wish. Still cannot believe GOD gave him to me in the moment before he made the jump from hooligan songs to church hymns, but is fun to see. Should have seen the face of his biker friends when he got baptized 😅 I understand your point tho, I really do. My whole circle was worried and made my life hell, but now they all love my husband. He is completely different from how he was judged. I just advise, don’t let a wonderful man pass by because is not the prince you dreamed. Have some courage but also discernment to see under the spell. Not always, sometimes you have just an ape in front😅, but at times you can find a prince under the beast/frog skin as you can find a beast behind the prince facade. The meaning of the story is to grow yourself to the point to be able to really see. I have great friends that are not considered by women because of the standards of today, and they are really wealthy, they just don’t advertise that. This said they are very modest, so women don’t even bother to talk to them because they have not Prince Charming visuals. Well, in reality they can buy him and his kingdom. Is sad but is true. They keep distance because got burned badly by gold diggers, and judged even worse by vane women. Is just an advice, you can just pretend you didn’t read it, but don’t you know putting work on their men is what all women do in marriage?😂
1. Belle never had the intent to tame the beast 2. Taming a man does zero good for a woman, hell leave her for a woman who never knew he was weak every time.
It never was like that and it wasnt like that in beauty and the beast either. Belle didn't pick the beast to tame him. Belle treated him as he behaved. She wanted nothing to do with him until he made the effort to be better on his own. The lesson isn't for women to pick the beast, but for men to work to be better of they want to be picked.
Huh?? Have you read the story? She was the daughter of a rich merchant and Gaston was not poor😂 Gaston just didn’t see her, he wanted the trophy of being able to have the girl. He didn’t want the girl at all. He even tried to burn them both to death by using the fear of others because he lost. The Beast just wanted someone human enough to be around him and remind him of his lost humanity. He takes time to observe and learn about the girl, even in his pain and fear of remaining a beast. He didn’t lure her with money, he gave her the opportunity to see him while he was doing the same.
Everyone has to control themselves..man has to control that monster ..female must control her wilds. She knows just like he knows; we are just growing together, mating together..working together. He protects me and I protect him..the world is crazy..do the work on yourself and your mate will find you
Wow, so if you're a victim of trauma, you don't deserve to be in a loving relationship? And we should abandon anyone we find out experienced trauma? You'll be alone forever with that kind of mentality.
Everyone is deserving of a loving, caring and safe relationship, except the ones who choose otherwise. Perhaps this person tried to help a traumatized person within their relationship, but that person didn't want to be helped. Therefore, a professional is perhaps a better option, and perhaps in doing so walking away is healing for both sides. Maybe staying in that situation wouldn't allow either to grow out of trauma (past or inflicted in the relationship). My two cents.
You must survive and protect your self first. There are crazy people out there and be careful who you are '' helping''. Sometimes is it not your job to help and leave it to a professional therapist.
Agreed. There's so much more to the story than credit is being given. The Beast also CHOSE to change because deep down he didn't like where he was at and in general he was aware of his flaws. He made the change because he saw Belle as worth it. He made her a priority. Belle also reciprocated. She showed appreciation for his change and encouraged him in a positive way. She helped him on his journey, the one HE chose for himself. He became a proper prince because of this and she only helped where he needed it. Both sides have to choose each other and see how they can grow together.
These days i think Mr. Peterson Speaks of the ideal, perhaps small percentage of western rich elite class of people. For most of the world its not that simple. There are mullion other factors. There will be umpteen number of good relationships that does not match his description at all.
That’s true that’s why he said it’s rare and women are picking on a very tight line so no doubt that it doesn’t happen for everyone. But very rewarding and meaningful if it does work out.
She was disinterested until he was kind
Yep and when he started to make an effort in their relationship and didn't expect blind obedience
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No. Women fall for narcs because they're usually hot as shit ! Who can resist a hot guy. And he,LL be her dream come true. Until he isn't !
Silly ol’ beast… lol 💗
Yeah that story was so strange when you look back at it like watching a hostage 😂
Every girl wants a bad boy who will be good just for her, and every guy wants a good girl who'll be bad just for him.
So darn true
That's fire.
The truth in that statement is crazy
Wow. Wisdom drop. So true
100%
He gives her a library. And, more importantly, he learns how to pay attention to her cues and then he actively tries to do things that will bring her joy and make her feel seen and respected. And even though he doesn't always get it right, it's his earnest effort that really starts to change Belle's heart.
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Mic drop
Yes
Guys jeez try to read deeper... try even to read full stop 😅 fairytail are not skindeep. They are packed with double meanings and powerful archetype. The story is about a woman making a cursed man going from beast back to man with her love. That's the archetype that guy is talking about and you can find it in many maaany popular media.
Sure! He gives her a library weeks or even months after he kidnapped her, how kind of him!
I definitely found me a beast. This made my perspective change on him. The moment I saw his kindness I understood him , and his pain
while i found an angel. the kindest, sweetest man, who pamper me so much. i love him. love him. ❤
@@chrisathian5450 GURL this makes me so happy to hear 🥰 I don’t know u but I know u deserve that. I never let anyone do that for me except him & it feels so nice & it feels so nice too to treat him like a king especially bc I know nobody did that for him 😭🤚🏼🩵 I always went for the ones who were overly nice to me & overly nice to EVERYONE but realized I personally need a beast who is an angel to me bc I am such a pushover oh my godddd🤣🤣😭😭( he is kind but not like OVERLY, it’s like just authentic kindness & care for humanity - while I am way too much sometimes ) anyways bless you and I wish you a long & healthy happy life together 😘😘😘
Argh man this is so sweet congratulations to you two❤❤❤🎉🎉
aah hope my girl will think the same
All of the girls I knew were afraid of my hubby when I met him (like activity avoided him while we were at work lvl of afraid of him)... reality is that he's such an incredibly good man. He's sweet and does everything he can for the kids and me, but I know he's capitals of keeping all of the true monsters away from our family as well
Don't forget that the Beast was rich.
Adam is a prince. So duh.
Eggxactly!
Yeah so conditional love but by God is Men have their own conditions now all of a sudden conditions for love is transactional go figure
Imagine trying to watch a movie with this guy...
broooo lolll
He who makes a beast of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man. - Samuel Johnson
It's also the ego is the beast and the beauty is the self.
my boyfriend was a hothead and had humor some people wouldn't like. not a lot of girls got along with him because nobody else wanted to handle him. but what nobody knew was the "beast" was a front. he was gentle and would have done anything for me. he was the kindest person ive ever met. he was my beast. I love reading and science and he was a strong hero and caring person. he was selfless. he died on Monday being the beast and protective man he has always been. ladies- find your beast.
I'm sorry for your loss. Your beast will always protect you, until you meet again. Remember, every day you wake up, is a day closer to seeing him again.
Rest and Peace to his Spirit;
Cherish the Love ❤️ you had together
Sorry to hear of your loss
Sincere condolences on your loss. happy you found your beast and he his beauty. may your heart be healed.
I'm so sorry for your lost. Special people are rare, and you know you have had something special, that is rare. Love is forever
Thank you for this. ❤
This guy never fails to amaze me
Yeah his capacity to talk utter nonsense and convince dumb people it has some deeper meaning is quite impressive.
@@stuartbrierley103 Or The capacity to make ignorant people think they are smart while they don't even wanna try to understand what he's saying
@@stuartbrierley103Dogs think humans are barking at each other always
Monique enters the "story"and makes a statement.
Stuart enters and shames her like a Disney villain.
Slobro rides in on his dragon and defends Monique's honor.
Disney movie!
@@stuartbrierley103he wasn’t wrong here. Or some points made perfect sense
that wasn't what the movie was about. she didn't like the beast at all because he was generally a jerk, and she only warmed up to him once he began letting his guard down and became kinder. that's how it works.
Don't forget the dadnapping
Are you actually trying to school Jordan Peterson😅. He knows what the movie is about and is talking about it on another level.
@@laveniajohnson2283 i wasn't trying to school anyone. i was commenting that the point of the movie was to be kind, and that belle didn't love the beast until he was. that's what happened/
@@laveniajohnson2283 she wasn't trying to tame him whatsoever.
I would urge you to read the original fairytale about the beauty and the beast. You can find it on RUclips either on *a little bit frank* or * a bit late*. I'm curious if you change your mind after that.
When my sister and i were little kids, beauty and the beast had first come out. the first thing we thought when the beast turned back into the prince was "the prince is ugly....i like the beast better"😂
I love this explanation
It doesn't put anyone down
This is absolutely a beautiful perspective of relationships
Doesn't put anyone down? You must have missed the part where he called women, who are victims of narcissistic abuse, stupid!
The beast never was a ‘bad boy’. She didn’t like him at first. BUT he started paying attention to her, what she liked, expanded her mind with the library, learned kindness. And only in changing his toxic ways, she began feeling for him.
What frikkin fantasy this man is talking about i don’t know. He missed the mark. And the beast didn’t have options. The story isn’t about taming the beast, it was about patience and understanding. Jeez
You’re not smarter than Peterson young lady. That’s a dumb take with regard to your opinion also.
He's talking about the real story not the disney one xD but even in the movie yes the beast is bad boy. He has anger issues and is egoistical. That's why he was cursed in the first place. But for her he change into a man, quite litteraly. That's the archetype the man is talking about. 😅 you can find this in many popular chickflick. Pride and prejudice twilight etc...
He is talking about real life not the cartoon. Also no one likes anyone at first, it happens gradually
The beast was indeed a bad man
Girl please read the story. Read the real one, you will see 🤦🏻♀️
My ex Beast was a narcissist. No amount of love, kindness, and healing can change the beast to someone he's not.
I believe the Beast and Guston were both terrible, but Th Beast was much worse. First the Beast imprison Belle's dad because he got lost. Belle was no threat. The Beast is very strong and he has an army of furniture. Her dad was literally about to die and the Beast literally didnt care. Instead of letting Belle dad go, the Beast rather her dad die. Belle sacrificed herself and Beast just said yes instead having a heart and letting both go. The Beast wasnt even nice to Belle and screamed at the top of his lungs her for not eating dinner with him when is imprisoned which freaking crazy. He exploded when she went to the wrong room. The Beast is super controlling, evil, and cruel. Anybody who think the Beast isnt nothing but evil is blind. The Beast cant even read and Belle favorite thing is to read. I wonder when the dad was sick and imprisoned by the Beast... he though this Beast will be the perfect husband for my daughter. This story is Ridiculous!
His explanation was so fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I went for what I thought was a beast and turned out to be a covert narc! The worst!!!
Did you see something bad and immediately assume that is a victim? Okay, don't flip the card and assume the good-looking isn't a monster.🎉
Yes it happens if u read too much into their actions when whatever they did was out of impulse 😂
No, You wanted a beast & you got one.
What were you expecting to happen
She wants the man that’s going to provide and protect her🙏
Belle was always my favorite. ❤️
HOLY SHIT JP's last sentence puts it into words PERFECTLY!
I picked the funny type of guy. A great sense of humor is attractive.
Depends. Funny can also be sociopathic. Had a friend with which we could laugh our asses off for no reason endlessly, seemed to have that connection and triggered my earliest sense of humour.
He ended up using me as a tool, when i was genuine and disinterested.
Helped him many times, never wanted to give me the actual stable friend thing back.
He exploited me and tried to out me down whenever he could as if all this time he was admiring me with a feeling of jealousy. I didnt care about his dark side because i loved him regardless. Great relationship even if he chose to betray and leave
What beauty and the beast did he watch? Belle was disinterested in relationships in general and HATED the beast at the start. She didn't go to him because he was " tamable" , he kidnapped her sick father and was worried he'd die locked up in the castle, she only gave him a chance when he changed and became kind and compassionate , and loved him when she saw how much he was willing to sacrifice for her and her father. The moral of the whole damm story is that your looks only get you so far( in the case of gaston) but your personality and how you treat the others around you is what seals and completes the deal. This dude is on a wild delulu trip. Also this guy did not just call women who are victims of abuse dumb and naive.
Yes finally just the way he talks is like a one sided conversation and his hand movements spell out arrogance to me
This!!!
Yep, I'd love to hear his perspective of Mulan. Belle seems like a misandrist at the beginning. A "good beast"; okay.
Stupid women do like them....and they are not victims....they are knowingly attracted to their bad traits. Any guy that has ever been a SIMP understands this.
@@CorrynAliceyou should blame the content creater for this ..not JP
Has he watched the movie? She is not picking the beast, she exchanged her fathers freedom for hers. Then the beast saves her life and she understands that only his outer appearance is of a beast, but he is a good, caring person.
He read the real thing, the actual story 🤣🤣 Read it too, is much more than the Disney movie
😂 Did you only watch the first 30min of the movie? Belle definitely chose the Beast. They fell in love after he saved her from the wolves. She taught him to read. She ran to save him at the climax of the movie.🤷🏾♀️
@thelifeofmaryd.2494 exactly my point. She doesnt chose him because he is aggresive and rude. She choses him when he starts showing kindness and care.
@@Ardiane1the Disney story makes more sense 😭
How could you be so out of touch from abstract thought?!
I just love our options 🥹
😂 Right?!!
our options aint virgins but bring nothing to the table but drama. you still got it better
And men still won't understand this and say women pick losers
She didn't go to the beast, she had no choice at the beginning. It was later that she changed her mind because he gave her a chance to know him.
That one was on point right now
It's giving "I can fix him", my delulumind thought he's going to say along those lines lol
According to two advice websites one claims you can never tame a narcissist & they can never change, whilst one other website says that maybe some narcissist are able to reform and change and be aware of their condition
Yeah it's all up to the person if they're willing to change or not
SPOT ON Dr.
Wow well said Jordon
Knowing the difference between arrogance and real confidence be careful there is a fine line between the two, but not if you know what your looking on.
I couldn’t have explained that any better. Amazing guy, father, Husband, educator, HUMAN.
I would never in my right mind tell someone to go to hell
Dont tell a man about ALL YOUR TRAUMA, failed relationships, pain, past sins, weakness, etc... he will use that against you. Don't tell a new man what you like In a man, that weasel of a demon that's occupying that body will pretend to be what you described until he hook you, if he's a broken, traumatized child in an adult body (a narcissist) he will use all that information against you also. Let him show you who he is, it won't take him long. Demons are impatient & rages with anger. And do NOT
1. Get all excited if you go to dinner, buy you flowers etc..
2. Do NOT give him the oh nah nah! Keep your precious body on lock for the single, ready for a woman to be a wife, ready to be YOUR husband, Born-again, Holy Ghost filled, Baptized, profoundly in love, surrendered his whole lifeto the Lord Jesus Christ. His life will bare the fruit if he's genuine. Watch for the🚩.
You ain't thirsty
&
You ain't no prostitute.
Sis, YOU have been warned ⚠️.
This is so good!
Is this why "Beauty and the Beast" is literally my favorite Disney movie. 🤷♀️. I learned from a young age. The movie was great! I watched it many times.
Beauty and the beast was always my favorite Disney princess movie growing up
He is spot on. I don’t think there are many men that fit the profile of a strong good looking man while having a tender demeanor. Someone that will stand up for you in all ways and be giving and sharing is a rare combination.
Beauty and the beast is a better example of Stockholm syndrome than actual love
In that, like stockholm syndrome, it's fictional, and like stockholm syndrome, you have no idea what you're talking about when you make smartass comments about it that you read somewhere else on the internet?
Yes, in those two regards they are quite similar.
@@Merlewhitefire give me the definition of Stockholm syndrome then if I don’t know what I’m talking about. Fictional doesn’t mean it can’t be Stockholm syndrome.
@@atheistskeptic8748 Stockholm syndrome was retroactive propaganda used to justify the fact that the police in the Stockholm robbery incident were more reckless with the hostage's lives than the robbers were, leading the hostages to turn on them.
Even if it was real and had any actual evidentiary basis, it never had anything to do with romance or the idea that people would fall in love with somebody who imprisoned them.
@@atheistskeptic8748Stockolm Syndrome implies that the victim sympathises with the captor or thinks to deserve punishment from him/her
In BatB I'd say that belle gives a chance to the beast once he starts lowering his guard and not being a beast., that's different from my perspective.
I’m that stupid women! Learnt the hard way. Thank God for the wisdom he gave me, to change my ways.
Jordan Peterson is my proff and im never tired or bored from hearing from him
Now, imagine if he was my dad🎉🎂😇
King Kong is in my opinion perfect example of Beauty and the Beast
😂😂😂
This is beautiful ❤and what I believed all along .
I have never heard anyone explain quite this well
This is a good description regardless of how accurate the disney movie reference was.
So women only choose between a narcissist or a guy with anger issues. Got it. smh
Lol we are doomed. Yet there’s better choices. The “beast” at the end showed the real ideal
Mamy woman are attracted to typical masculine faults unconciously mistaking it for strenght. It's not that complicated 😅
A narcissist IS someone with anger issues
Belle chooses. There are more women like Cinderella, aurora and more. If u know what I mean
No, she could also choose the timid nobody-men of the village who weren't even interesting enough to be characters. He mentioned those.
I love this. And ladies it’s possible. I’m living this tale today.
Tale of leaving the village man and going with a beast .beast who isn't really a beast just looks from outside as one and actually kind , caring and all that .but the villager man was also the same from inside
No actually it's not. Wait till you find your your dream tale man has another family somewhere or left you out of his will or gave you a disease or was a criminal mastermind.
You are interpreting this all wrong..women have to take a very tight line which means 99.999% of men do not qualify. You think your man qualifies but after studying men I realize most women are profoundly deluded.
@@macrofrommicro6241 no the villager was a different kinda full of ego sexist chasing but the rest accurate. My husband was rough on the outside emotionally because of his past but with time love patience time and support he found his way.
I hate to admit this but JP...a man explained women better than any woman I've ever heard
"Now you have someone that can keep the real beasts at bay"
💯 but only until she could see herself
,the beauty within the beast. Now she has something to connect with.
Like the lyric in one of Dorothy's Songs. "I need a man with a black heart of gold"
RIP the guys who have their shit together and are decent human beings 😂
It doesn't mean the man is a horrid being, it means he is tough and has patches that made him mean in some way but he still has a pretty good/ok moral compass with capacity for improvement
I love when he smiles❤
Beast character is relatable.
Cartoon vs real life..
Meta truth
John Doyle Moment
You are confusing women for ladies, 2 different human beings 💯
True, but also men and Gentlemen are not the same. I have seen men treat Ladies worse then dirt and after they left screaming how they are toxic and repeat the cycle. The Beast changes in the presence of a Lady. Now will a Man want to do the same or just think he is the Man so deal with it woman?
You're too delusional to be saved
I'm living this in my marriage for the most part. The only thing that isn't actually accurate is that women are NOT to try to tame the beast. The beast chooses to tame himself only around her. Respect means not trying to change the other person, but being supportive enough for them that they feel free to change on their own.
Bell took her fathers place as a prisoner after the beast kidnapped him. Later he gives her a master library to bribe her compliance. The movie is better example of the dangers of stock holm syndrome.
Guston was a total narcisist but also the strongest in the village by far.
Bell was smart, beautiful, and arrogant. No one in the village was good enough. Took a literal prince to bring her on board with the idea of companionship after being his extended prisoner. She would have happily just kept reading books. No interest in anyone at all.
All of Jordans points are solid about the trials of women finding their spouse but it feels like he is reaching a bit with this movie.
The beast had a mansion with servants
And Gasto was rejected because he didn’t have these or he was a creepy narcissist?
One of whom trued to kill her? Was not the mansion with lots of servants, she was not afraid of hard work since she was the only daughter of a merchant who had 3 sons. Read the real Grim story. What the Beast had was a mansion with books and people who were kind, full of places where she could just be by herself and he could observe her while she let him see her so she could make him feel accepted even though he was a beast. What won the curse was not money, was comprehension, reciprocal trust and the will to be heard in the noise of no words.
Why you are so materialistic.
@@Ardiane1 I think he is just so materialistic and cares only about money.
Men are more inclined to think money and power. Is normal he feels the girl went for the money😅. In the original story, the castle was cold and very uncomfortable, she suffers in there and was scared. The Beast in time makes it a comfortable place. If he reads the real story he will understand that the Beast made a house for the girl even if he wasn’t in love. Hopefully he also will find inspiration to first be the man than deserve the real woman. Unfortunately men today are too spoiled and women are not real 😂
The other issue is that every loser village woman thinks she's Beauty so none of them want the loser village men and they all chase after Beast or Gaston and everyone loses.
"loser" is an entry level position.
Being bitter without saying you are bitter
And every loser man probably thinks he's the shit or thinks he is shit, never achieving anything in life. Be the beast friends, be the beast.
A loser is someone who doesn't shoot their shot.
All you have to do is ask and you immediately advance from loser, even if you miss your shot. It works both ways.
Just remember, if they were kind enough to ask respectfully, be kind enough to decline respectively, if you're truly not interested.
First, get comfortable with making requests for yourself.
Good practice is ordering from a restaurant menu with confidence. This shows YOURSELF that you understand what you want and are not afraid to ask for it.
Once you can talk to a waiter or waitress with RESPECT and CONFIDENCE, you will gain the confidence to invite someone to eat there with you.
The bottom line is the difference between a no and a yes is YOUR confidence.
The part about being generous and productive, sharing, is demonstrated by picking up the check. The person who ASKS, is expected to pick up the check.
If the person who was ASKED on the date, knows that there will not be a second date, it would be good to offer the split the check.
This is a kind way to communicate that you appreciate the opportunity but there was no connection, without having an awkward conversation about it.
If the person asks why, tell the truth using kind words, like you would give to console a sibling or friend. Be in their corner but make your intentions clear.
Don't tolerate abuse or disrespect.
You don't have to make a scene, unless you need to because the situation has become unsafe.
@@TreasureByMeasure dude this is perfect. I completely agree
Das stimmt absolut! Ein tolles Short ♥️
Jordan is brilliant
Oh I love how intelligent and articulate this wonderful man, Jordan Peterson is😊
Most importantly he was kind.
Remember ladies you love monsters 😂
If I can tell monsters to go to hell and be there just for him I damn sure expect the same in return, if not goodbye 💅
The beast got cursed for being a narcissistic asshole, and Gaston was prepared to fight a beast for Belle..
I was thinking something similar. He was turned into a beast for being a horrible person. And Gaston was going to have her father committed into an insane asylum to have her. He wanted to kill the beast as a trophy to prove his masculinity. Getting Belle was just another perk but still all about him. One was a reformed narcissist, Beast. Gaston was a narcissist who had not been humbled yet.
@@lillybelle544i rewatched part of the movie and you make a good point.. in my memory Gaston tried to save Belle but she was already back in the village when they came for the beast
This has always been my favorite fairy tale ❤️
The best was charming .. I loved Dr. Jordan's explanation
He’s absolutely right! I married a beast of a man but he is a lamb with me and his family but NO ONE will ever dare to mess with him or us ! ❤❤❤❤❤
Maby the beast must tame it's self first
The beast is also wealthy...
Exactly
Gosh! So true. ❤
People who fall for narcissists are not stupid or naive. It's about being manipulated, not mistaking arrogance for confidence
He’s absolutely right, but only immature woman that are still finding themselves would try to tame a beast, I’m not doing that, come right or don’t come at all. I’m not doing all that extra unnecessary crap, you’re a grown man. If you can’t live up to my expectations, then we don’t need to be seeing each other.
Agree!!!
That is why you are not
a Belle but one of the girl in the village. 🤷🏻♀️ Takes a woman to tame a beast, and she needs a lot of strength in herself to keep herself grounded and never give into the beastly nature. That is not possible if you are egoists and not wanting to do the hard work, because expectations means you are looking for something that you want, but will not give the same back. Who tames the beast, has done the work in herself and now has x-ray vision to distinguish rough diamonds
@@Ardiane1😂😂😂
@@Ardiane1 you’re a lost cause. be gone taming beasts for all of us lolololol 😂😂😂😂
@@user-me6cf6hr8b how did you know? Well, let me tell you, he is the best husband and man a woman can wish. Still cannot believe GOD gave him to me in the moment before he made the jump from hooligan songs to church hymns, but is fun to see. Should have seen the face of his biker friends when he got baptized 😅 I understand your point tho, I really do. My whole circle was worried and made my life hell, but now they all love my husband. He is completely different from how he was judged. I just advise, don’t let a wonderful man pass by because is not the prince you dreamed. Have some courage but also discernment to see under the spell. Not always, sometimes you have just an ape in front😅, but at times you can find a prince under the beast/frog skin as you can find a beast behind the prince facade. The meaning of the story is to grow yourself to the point to be able to really see. I have great friends that are not considered by women because of the standards of today, and they are really wealthy, they just don’t advertise that. This said they are very modest, so women don’t even bother to talk to them because they have not Prince Charming visuals. Well, in reality they can buy him and his kingdom. Is sad but is true. They keep distance because got burned badly by gold diggers, and judged even worse by vane women. Is just an advice, you can just pretend you didn’t read it, but don’t you know putting work on their men is what all women do in marriage?😂
And if they can tame the beast they get bored and search out another beast to tame
1. Belle never had the intent to tame the beast
2. Taming a man does zero good for a woman, hell leave her for a woman who never knew he was weak every time.
That explains “I can change him” trope..
Woman aren't like that anymore though. Veryyyyyy few are willing to pick the "beast" and know there's something there.
They already chose the bear though
🤣🤣🤣@@johnpaulumbalin7992
woman never where like that. it is just in movies like that. but not in real life. thats why it called a movie / fantasie
Then there are the men that think they're a tortured beast when they're realistically a whining child.
It never was like that and it wasnt like that in beauty and the beast either. Belle didn't pick the beast to tame him. Belle treated him as he behaved. She wanted nothing to do with him until he made the effort to be better on his own. The lesson isn't for women to pick the beast, but for men to work to be better of they want to be picked.
He’s a wealthy prince, but she's just a simple peasant. That's hypergamy right there for you
Huh?? Have you read the story? She was the daughter of a rich merchant and Gaston was not poor😂 Gaston just didn’t see her, he wanted the trophy of being able to have the girl. He didn’t want the girl at all. He even tried to burn them both to death by using the fear of others because he lost. The Beast just wanted someone human enough to be around him and remind him of his lost humanity. He takes time to observe and learn about the girl, even in his pain and fear of remaining a beast. He didn’t lure her with money, he gave her the opportunity to see him while he was doing the same.
Gasto was a creepy narcissist as many men. You don’t see that that’s the reason you get rejected
But she's the smartest, most educated peasant!
@@Ardiane1fantastic analysis! 👍🏾
YOU explained it so well
I just got called stupid by Dr. Peterson...ouch I'm already hurting enough.
The beast can only be tamed by beautiful smart, kind and loving women not useless, stupid and ugly ones that think they are what they are not.
The second type oftentimes produces the beasts. 🤣
Everyone has to control themselves..man has to control that monster ..female must control her wilds. She knows just like he knows; we are just growing together, mating together..working together. He protects me and I protect him..the world is crazy..do the work on yourself and your mate will find you
It's concerning how you said "man " and "female" instead of man and woman.
Absolutely... God I love you Mr. Peterson!!
That's why vampires are so popular
I think Beauty and the Beast is about Stockholm syndrome
Read the story people!!!🤦🏻♀️
@@Ardiane1it's too hard for them to read let along give a deep analyze of what they read 😅
How as a man is he capable of describing the female mating selection experience so accurately? Amazing.
He has a daughter and study psych and his insight has tripled lately. 😂
"female mating" wtf are you talking about
My husband and I equal each other out. We both found each other at our worst and somehow made a pretty great recovery and scared our ghosts out.
I feel called out 😂
How likely is it for women to tame that monster? As likely as it is they are the beauty.
Dang, that does sound a light on something most ppl overlook or don't give thought on😲
it’s just a movie man
Yeahh for ppl like u 😂
Very insightful, yet soooo complicated.
My husband was the beast and still is to others but is my loveable teddy bear to me. I'm thankful for him every day.
Or, you can also leave the traumatised man to a professional and move on..
Wow, so if you're a victim of trauma, you don't deserve to be in a loving relationship? And we should abandon anyone we find out experienced trauma? You'll be alone forever with that kind of mentality.
This might be the most heartless thing I've read in a while.
Everyone is deserving of a loving, caring and safe relationship, except the ones who choose otherwise. Perhaps this person tried to help a traumatized person within their relationship, but that person didn't want to be helped. Therefore, a professional is perhaps a better option, and perhaps in doing so walking away is healing for both sides. Maybe staying in that situation wouldn't allow either to grow out of trauma (past or inflicted in the relationship). My two cents.
You must survive and protect your self first. There are crazy people out there and be careful who you are '' helping''. Sometimes is it not your job to help and leave it to a professional therapist.
I mean crazy is not the same as traumatised... But how I supposed to know that?... 🥺 You get may point I am sure.
Oh lets just ignore how the beast had a whole freaking Castle he was living in. I am with JP on general things, but he sees what he wants to see.
Agreed. There's so much more to the story than credit is being given.
The Beast also CHOSE to change because deep down he didn't like where he was at and in general he was aware of his flaws. He made the change because he saw Belle as worth it. He made her a priority. Belle also reciprocated. She showed appreciation for his change and encouraged him in a positive way. She helped him on his journey, the one HE chose for himself. He became a proper prince because of this and she only helped where he needed it.
Both sides have to choose each other and see how they can grow together.
I missed this Jordan Peterson
I feel dehumanised every time this mountebank opens his yap
I been trying to say this for the longest 😊
He is kind. Kindness. Periodt. Don't generalise women over a stpry wrotten by a man.
Victime blaming... Way to go Jordan!
These days i think Mr. Peterson
Speaks of the ideal, perhaps small percentage of western rich elite class of people.
For most of the world its not that simple. There are mullion other factors. There will be umpteen number of good relationships that does not match his description at all.
You don't need money to be in a good relationship...
That’s true that’s why he said it’s rare and women are picking on a very tight line so no doubt that it doesn’t happen for everyone. But very rewarding and meaningful if it does work out.