The Irish of Newfoundland, Canada 1981
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2021
- ‘The Forgotten Irish’ is a community of Irish people living over two thousand miles from Ireland in Newfoundland, Canada, whose ancestors left their home country six generations ago. Radharc looks at a colony of Irish people for whom time has stood still.
They speak with Irish accents, use Gaelic phrases, sing Irish songs, use old Irish farming techniques and gut fish the way their ancestors did in the 18th century. Aidan O’Hara encounters this community of sixth generation Irish in Cape Shore, Newfoundland, Canada.
On his journey Aidan speaks to Professor John Mannion, Memorial University of Newfoundland, who has carried out detailed research into the Irish story in Newfoundland. Prof. Mannion argues that the Irishness is largely due to isolation but sees that this isolation is becoming less and less and the Irish communities are becoming more and more open to influences from American and Canadian mainstream society. O’Hara also speaks to George Careen, Paddy Judge, Caroline Brennan, Alban Powers, and Mick Nash, who tell their stories of how their families came to live so far from Ireland and yet retain so many aspects of their Irishness.
There are scenes of dancing and singing that would not be out of place in the rural or Gaeltacht Ireland of times gone by.
Religion is central to community life and while the priests may be Canadian many of them have been trained in Ireland and maintain a strong Irish connection. At the funeral of Ignatius McGrath, it is evident that the traditional Irish wake continues. But will this tradition die with him? Fr. Charles Kelly believes that much of the folklore and oral traditions will be lost in everyday life and become purely a subject for academic study.
The cultural isolation in which the Irish immigrants lived has meant the survival of Irish traditions, beliefs, superstitions, folklore and culture. However, new roads, electricity supplies, improved services and of course television are opening up the Cape Shore to outside influence. 
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Thanks to @CRsVideoVaults for uploading this. The man behind the documentary, Aidan O'Hara, was my father. He died June 2023, aged 84, in Ireland. I know it would mean a lot to him to have this important film available for all to see. Keep singing, folks.
Your reply on Twitter brought me here. It’s a tad late now, but can’t wait to watch your late father’s documentary asap. Thanks for sharing!
Kathleen, nice to hear from you, you are rightfully proud of your father. ( Dan in Montreal.) Remember the bookstore?
Conor, I was very sorry to hear of your father's passing this summer. My late father Donal Wylde was cameraman on this series. It would be nice to connect and share some stories - these programmes have sparked a lifetime of interest for me.
At 7:12 there is a ballad being sung. I tried to google some of the lyrics but I can't find a match. Can anyone help me out? Especially the lyrics. Thank you.
Let me fish off cape st Mary's by the irish decendants. Stan Rogers does a nice version too@sundaydriverinnewyork261
I’m Irish born, but raised in Ontario Canada. I’ve been to Ireland, once in my public school yrs, once in my teens and once in my 30’s. I’ve never been to Newfoundland, but I’ve been to the other maritime Canadian provinces several times. I intend to move to Newfoundland in my retirement in a couple of years. I already feel like “those are my people” as a guitarist and guitar builder, I hope to “fit in” to the local culture to the best of my ability! It’ll be my life’s last great adventure!
Peace
Don't leave it too late , it is a dream of mine that will never happen. All my family there have passed, relatives live in other provinces, now at an age that it has become impossible to do so, but my heart will be there forever, and in my soul. The best people in the whole world! God bless you .
It has changed so much…I hope it will feel like home for you.
Our East coast is Irish, Scottish and Welsh, makes for some unique accents, great people, all of them.
@@barbaragrant9337Same. I suffer every day. I should never have left.
No they are Canadians because Newfoundland is not a County nor Province in Ireland or Northern Ireland.
I just came across this Newfoundland video, I got so excited as I too am an Irish Newfoundlander , my father's mother and father came directly from Ireland , and settled in Placentia Bay. They had a large family my father being the baby, he lost his father when he was only two, and as was the tradition in the times the older children were put in the Catholic Orphanage in St John's. When the paper mill was built in Central Newfoundland in 1909 , some of his brothers were already 18, they applied for jobs, when confirmed the mother , my father, and the rest of brothers and sisters moved there together for a much better life.
Growing up my life was built around Irish songs, traditions , plays & education . I have wonderful memories of my father singing Irish songs , he was always humming or singing around the house. He had an Irish tenor voice. To this day being Irish still makes me so proud .
Barbara, God bless you, from Ireland
@@Jimmy-nr4kr Thank you Jimmy, my biggest regret was never taking a trip to Ireland to see where my Great Grandfather & Great Grandmother lived, and , if there were any living relatives of my generation. If you have never visited Newfoundland you should, it has so many things that are similar to Ireland I'm told. When Irish folks have been there, the reports are they felt they were un Ireland , the hospitality is bar none. There are no friendlier people on the face of this earth. Truly! Sights are spectacular. God bless you !
@PercyHabibi 3135 My dear o'h how I wish I could, my heart pines to see Ireland , but, have gotten to the age where too many ailments stop me from going, but. I can still dream !
@PercyHabibi 3135 Percy my dear, unfortunately old age found a way to creep upon me , wish, o'h wish, but, it will remain one of those things, shudda, dunna! .
@@barbaragrant9337 Don't worry Barbara. Our Irish eyes will always look for you, on this plane or the next. Ireland loves all its descendants.
If it gives you some solace, I'm touching Irish soil for you, thinking of you, wishing you all the best.
Is breá le Éireann tú.
One might as well be in a pub in West Waterford or South Kilkenny or the coastal areas of south Wexford listening to those people in Newfoundland! What a beautiful tradition to have retained those Irish accents for two centuries. Grateful thanks to Aidan O'Hara from Donegal for presenting this very special programme. Aidan has a huge love and respect for Newfoundland and was the first Irish person to record Pat Murphy's Meadow, a song that originates from Newfoundland. I would love to go there some time.
definitely come for a visit, sounds right up your alley. all the old bys especially the fishermen out the bay still have that strong accent
Got as far as PEI & nova Scotia a few years ago. Didn't make it to newfoundland unfortunately. One day!
Thanks for letting all of us know our history from centuries ago 8:48 love from Ireland 🇮🇪 I was born here 1968 age 55 yrs live in Northern Ireland. This video is truly amazing 👏 x⚘🌍🌈
This is fascinating their irish accents are still strong after so many generations.
It sure is Sean
like the Pakistanis in England lol
I couldn't tell the difference and I'm Irish I thought they were pulling me leg..
@@MsRichycon lmao
I'm American and when my Newfie great grandmother used to call I would have such a hard time figuring out what she was saying lol
I'm South Side of Chicago Irish. When I was young in the 1950s and 60s I didn't have any interest in Irish history or culture. The Catholic Church encouraged assimilation into American culture. Now I'm thrilled to learn anything about Ireland so this video is fascinating!
Same Daley's from this area are those Daley's from your area. Running whiskey from Ireland, and rum from Guyanna.
This documentary was truly beautiful from start to finish. Thank you for sharing it. Sad to think that most of these people are no longer with us now.
What a beautiful documentary, it brought tears of memory to my eyes. My great grandparents were from Ireland, immigrated to Newfoundland, late 1800's-early 1900's - family names of O'Brien, Whalen, Gulliver + Hickey - many still in Nfld, I personally was born in St. John's, NFLD, now residing in Ontario, Canada. I tried, once, many years ago to attempt a legal family tree project, as a gift for my Nanny's 80th bday, how I wish now today, I had completed that project!! Again, I thank you for this love light blessing. Keep safe, stay healthy and be careful out there.
Agape Love
Maggie O'Brien
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Am an Irish woman and fairly new to apps like Tiktok I recently came across a few Newfie vids and content on there. I love how alike their accent and mannerisms are like our own , then today this vid popped up on my home page on here .Thanks for posting ..x
I'm Irish & I can't get over the super strong Irish accents these people still have. Quite amazing
Not this strong now. This video is old.
Your never lose the accents… it’s ingrained in the culture.
@@patriciakeats1621
The Americanization of the world, I suppose. Pity, that.
Unfortunately mostly just the older people now with those accents. Young folk are pretty Americanized now
@@Hsalf904
What a shame. But often the same story in Ireland itself.
A 500 year old fishery ruined by government incompetence and greed.
Did they overfish it?
The issue wasn’t the people of Newfoundland over-fishing. Newfoundland’s population was never big enough for that, and their fishing vessels were relatively modest.
The over-fishing was more from the large trawlers, both from mainland Canada and international locations.
@@sweetshelly739 thanks, as often the case, unfortunately
Letting the asians come with big draggers didnt help either, we got shafted
@@sdrtcacgnrjrc they let foreign fishing come in and they where pulling cod out by the boat loads and it didn’t help they made sealing illegal they ate up all the fish
I am a Quinlan and have family in Newfoundland! Have been to Ireland 4 times along with 2 of my 3 sons . My family are in, I believe BirchyBay! Am retired from C N, and my next trip for my wife and I will be Newfoundland. 🇨🇦🇮🇪☘️🙏
I love culture because you can never learn enough. Amazing how far Irish culture has stretched and still exists
This is a wonderful video. When we visited Ireland a couple years ago we made sure to tell everyone we’re your family from Newfoundland lol.
As a Irish citizen living in Ireland 🇮🇪beautiful video memories of our gealic Irish seas to newfoundland
Both my parents were born and raised in Ireland. My father met a woman named Bridie one day who became a close friend of the family. For YEARS I was sure she was from Ireland. I was shocked when she told me she was from Newfoundland. Her brogue was perfect Irish.
I spent the summer of '82 in Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo Counties. I stayed with members of my dad's family on two different farms. One was a dairy farm and the other a regular farm. Many of the farming ways in this film were still practiced in those areas; the haying was done with scythes, pitchforks and donkey carts! We weaned the lambs with baby bottles, we picked nettles and stones from the fields before the haying. We tended the gardens, the cows, the chickens. We harvested peat in the bog and both families used turf fired stoves. Hot water for a bath was heated in a big pot on the peat stove. There was electricity, but no hot water heaters. these farms are still being worked but with modern machinery and with the people having to have outside jobs to make a living! I am so fortunate to have experienced that summer.
Times change!
@@dinkster1729
Shut up fool
In
In a museum in Waterford there is a huge mural showing newfoundland and Ireland on a map and in script in between the words "Newfoundland is Ireland only parted by the sea"..very similar in accent and culturally..love them both
That is lovely - only parted by the sea
What lovely words. Are you a Newfoundlander too?
I'm from Waterford (Tramore) and I didn't even know that. I must investigate 😊
Newfoundland only joined Canada in 1949.
Maybe they made a wrong move.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 Well Newfoundlanders at the time felt they were tricked by the Federal liberal government in Ottawa and Old Joey Smallwood into joining Canada. But no matter, although we are loyal Canadains we will forever be Newfoundlanders in heart and soul!
I'm Irish, fair play lads. Great to see them proud of their roots.
it's truly beautiful.
newfoundland is Irish as can be, and their accents tell a beautiful story of our forefathers fleeing Ireland and finding sanctuary in newfoundland.
God bless our newfie cousins.
I worked in Canada for years and the Newfs were the best , most generous, fun loving and hard workers I ever met anywhere , many’s a pint we enjoyed and occasionally the Screech would come out , quite the buzz it gave but left you with a bangin’ head in the morning .
The accent sounded either Irish or Cornwall as the people that settled there obviously came from the south of Ireland or the south west of England and some Portuguese.
“ Lard Jaysus boy have you ever kissed a cod?” they’d say , getting Screeched in , kissing the cod and drinking a shot of Screech is part of a Newfoundland welcome. Happy days ☘️
Oh we work hard and play hard
The screech in was invented for tourism and is not in any way a part of actual Newfoundland culture. Very, very, few Newfoundlanders actually drink screech, so it’s not hard to tell you were among expat Newfoundlanders who’ve been on the mainland for a while, or Newfoundland descendants. They both tend to be quite different from Newfoundlanders who actually live in Newfoundland.
@@caitlinhickey6 I live in Ireland and I’m fairly sure our culture, sense of humour etc isn’t that different, yes I’m sure there’s lots of invented stuff for the tourists but it’s all in good fun so lighten up and enjoy your unique heritage .
Kiss the cod or kiss my arse 😂
@@pugmahone9439 The term is for people of Newfoundland is Newfoundlanders.
@@caitlinhickey6 How about Swish? LOLOL! Have you ever made swish from an empty barrel that used to hold rum? LOLOL! I think actually quite a few Newfoundlanders did drink rum, did they not? If not, Screech. I remember buying a mickey (is that word allowed) of rum for my father at Christmas in 1970 and taking it home to him in Ontario.
Fantastic video, thanks for uploading! I was travelling in Nepal twenty years ago and while getting on a bus and asking the driver a question in English (with my county Down accent) a lovely Canadian couple behind me, asked if I was from Newfoundland as they'd heard similar accents originate from there.
Paddy Judge sure had a beautiful voice.
His song was everything!
I visited Ireland In 2015. An Irishman I was speaking to said he had met two young men visiting Dublin, and hearing their accent asked them what part of Ireland they were from, the northwest perhaps ?
They told him, "No, we are from Newfoundland, Canada.
He got quite a kick out of that!
What I found while there was that although the Irish think a lot about the US having many historical connections there, they were not at all like Americans, they were like us in Canada.
This is a brilliant resource! Thank you for sharing your archive, sincerely.
Ah, my home sweet home! I’m a proud Newfoundlander and always will be! My father fished off the cape shore and raised in the placentia area. This warms my heart.Also I can’t stop singing to the background music lol Also, depending where you are on the coast, the accent changes.
That one woman speaking was from the Cape Shore, but obviously, sort of remembered the folk traditons, but couldn't remember them well enough to talk about them clearly. She'd be in her 70s or 80s today I would imagine.
@@dinkster1729 shut up, you daft mainlander. You’re from Ontario, you didn’t even know what the hell the Cape Shore was until you came across this video.
@@dinkster1729
Fibber
This is so decent and the people are such gentle folk
Pray you never see them when they get a head of steam on - just ask the Turks at Gallipoli!
You've never seen one that you have offended. If it was minor, you could become the victim of a satire, along Celtic lines (fatal by legend). If the offense was major, you find out about the Irish fighting reputation.
@@chuckhainsworth4801 Yeah! The Newfoundlander satirizes a lot when other people would hit the roof (be very angry!)
You can hear the Kilkenny, Waterford, Wexford and Carlow accents . And the “have you ever hear tell” phrase is commonly used in north Kilkenny . Heaps of Brennan’s from Kilkenny
You are so right about the Wexford accent. I spent a wee bit of time in Ballyhack, County Wexford in 1976 and some of these accents are very similar to the people I stayed with.
I have great respect and thanks for the people of the Cape Shore. They provided a living for my family for almost 30 years. My father used to go up with a van full of vegetables, meats, and baked goods, they used to call him the peddler. Although I knew most of the people once I got older, but i recognized a few of these people.
Ireland was never just a place but a people too. God save the gaels of Talamh an Éisc!
Well said
Top coment Bob.
The Irish can't really be described as gaels.
Gaels are relatively new to Ireland.
@@edwardtanner6393 TANner suits you well.
@@blythwood1973 yes not a common name in Ireland Bob.
But I like it ok .
Leather worker =Tanner
But statistically speaking probably not 100 % gael.
Like most on the the island of Ireland.
"The richest fishing grounds in the world" Literally brings tears to my eyes on how they let modern foreign boats and whoever they wanted take anything. The fishery industry our Island was founded on is dying quick and painfully. RIP the great fishermen of the past.
@Shane Gallagher It's Newfoundland and that's where I live.
I don't think Canada own the areas the foreigners fish in?
@@leeweisshaar1035 they most certainly do as they were fishing inside Canadian waters. There is no foreign fishing allowed inside of the border today, but that was only enforced in the last few decades, prior to that foreign fishing trawlers could fish wherever and it’s a huge reason why the fishery collapsed due to overfishing.
The cod fishery was huge just off of the Grand Banks in Newfoundland and that’s where foreigners would also come to fish. The waters off of the Grand Banks is Canadian territory and today is off limits to foreigners. Far too late though, the fishery was past the point of no return by the time any laws to protect it were enacted.
@@leeweisshaar1035 yes, the 200 mile limit is ignored by foreign vessels
It was a hard life though and who eats salt cod nowadays? These people even in the 1960s and 1970s were ecking out a lving and subsisting on unemployment insurance over the winter I would imagine. A lot of the fathers probably worked in construction in various places I would think and their families just stayed on the Cape Shore because housing was cheaper than in ST John's or Gander or Clarenville.
Ah, over 40 minutes long, will save watching thin until Friday night with a pint 👍
Or a cuppa tea 😀
@@bretdouglas9407 feck off cup 🙃
That’s a great idea!!
@@MyFoxworld Gobshite!
"watching thin"
I miss Newfoundland, can't wait to be back!
My great-grandfather Edward O'Brien arrived in Newfoundland in the 1870s. He was from the Cork area. His mother's maiden name was Minehane. That's about as much as we know right now.
Beautiful!! Beautiful!!! My ancestry from my Mum's side. Makes my heart happy to see and hear this
I'm a Tobin and my wife a Maher, born and raised in Newfoundland. Sure would be nice to take her "home" to Tipperary.
Maher is a common name around Tipperary and other places around Ireland, lots of Tobin's around my area too
It's a long way !!! ..hope you make it though
BEST NAME EVER!!!
I look at the young people in this film and wonder where they're at today, are they doing well and I hope they're happy.
It's heartbreaking as an Irish person watching this, I'm glad the east coast of Canada is keeping parts of our culture alive
Our country has been sold out by greedy parasites in our government
Most newfoundlanders aren't Irish, there's a big group that were, like on the south coast but most of us came from Dorset, devon and somerset... That's where the accent came from...
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@@sabbath8864 you’re correct in the fact that the Southern Avalon is the only Irish place in Newfoundland and that today, most Newfoundlanders aren’t Of Irish descent besides the Southern Avalon folks. (The Cape shore is part of the Southern Avalon) but you’re completely incorrect by insinuating that Newfoundland only has one accent. Newfoundland traditionally has twelve different accents. The rest of the island largely speaks in West Country English accents while the Southern Avalon has a number of different Irish accents.
@@GreyWhiteBlue they’re Irish descent you mean. They’re Newfoundlanders, not Irish.
@@GreyWhiteBlue So cringeworthy. I’m an NL’er and we’re Newfoundlanders, nothing else.
@@GreyWhiteBlue I’m from the Cape Shore where this video was filmed. It’s a formerly Irish speaking area. The only difference between Newfoundland’s dialect of Irish and Munster Irish was that NL Irish had a lot words that are unique to Newfoundland English that had been gaelicised. Some of them are still in use by older people in that part of NL.
We had penal laws back when NL was still a British colony, it’s one of the reasons we lost the language.
i was there in 1986 and couldnt believe the accents.The local hospital in St Johns was called The Waterford Hospital I think,and a bloke there i became pally with told me he's played with a St Johns school band in Croke Park in the 70's!!!The accents seem to be a mix of Waterford/Wexford/Carlow and is quite amazing.I brought 10 or 12 cassettes of Newfie folk music home when I left Canada and people at home were stunned yet more than a few knew of the connection.Montserrat is also connected to Ireland and is worth a visit.
Ya I went a few years ago to monserat passport stamped with shamrock
The Waterford is the mental/psychiatric hospital.
@@slake9727 Makes you wonder about his sanity, doesn't it? lOLOL!
What a great show thank you so much for posting this 🙂
I'm Irish and these people sound 100% Irish to me.
As an Irishman who's been to many trad parties the first scenes could be in Dublin. Kerry, or Newry in my opinion. The blood of the Irish has music and dancing as one of it's talents
What's trad about it? That's the way outport Newfoundlanders celebrate. Usually, there'd be a club with dancing on a Friday or Saturday night. Bingo the rest of the week. That kitchen was a might crowded.
I'm a Newfoundlander I grew up in St. John's the capital of Newfoundland. Now that COVID 19 is somewhat under control I 'need & long' to visit Ireland.
🍀☘️ My father's name was dad
Pat Murphy loved all the ole'
songs, Irish music, a great
story teller & loved a joke!
amazing doc. thank you for uploading
Great too see the Irish all over the world
Paddy Judge, l wonders is he related to my people in Mayo, my maiden name is Judge. Such a brilliant upload.
I am Irish and this video is wonderful. My God they sound Irish, they must be. They have the laughter, the Craic, born to be happy.
Growing up with newfie family, I really never realized how unique the accent was until I was in my teens. When my friends couldn't understand the accent or slang and looked at me like they were speaking another language 😂
The likes of us will never be here again ☘️❤️🇮🇪
Wow what an amazing documentary, thanks for sharing 👍🏼
It is amazing actually, a lot of documentaries about NL are shot from a mainland perspective, but this one is from a European perspective. Very interesting.
I'm from Nova Scotia, when I was younger I went on a youth event and people from New Jersey thought I had an Irish accent.
aint no shame there buddy, i hear they are they are the best working at height in high rises
Go to Utila, Honduras. That island is populated by Irish who left Ireland at the same time
@@FuzzyDunlots English is the frist language of Utila right. Where Spanish is spoken in rest of Honduras.
@@francisdoran8992 yes it is!
@@FuzzyDunlots That's very interesting. Do you no way that is
That first beat is a jam!
Totally agree Radwizard. That guy on the accordian could play. Great tune. And the dancin was good too. My kinda party.
New Ireland! Love it!🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪☘️☘️
Thank you for uploading this!
One special culture are the ☘️ Irish!
Sinn é!
Those accents are amazing 👏
Amazingly well put together doc. Really enjoyed it.
That's my Uncle Andy at 28.40 playing the bodhrán. R.I.P
So impressive
It’s amazing that the Irish accent remains so strong to this day. Great video. Many thanks for sharing it 🙏🏻
Why would it change if the people had limited or no contact with other English speakers? You notice how the Gaelic has totally disappeared though, right?
@@dinkster1729 it’s not call “the Gaelic” you daft mainlander. It’s called Irish and Irish words are still in regular use here. Irish disappeared due to penal laws in Newfoundland.
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Pipe down you crabby old 🤡
@@caitlinhickey6 But Irish itself is not spoken now.
Always brought great music along with us .
I know Father Charlie Kelly. I have known him since I was a child. He was there when my father died, and, my cousin. I am not overly religious, but one thing that I can say, is that Charlie Kelly is a very kind, loving, intelligent, well educated man. There are many Roman Catholic priests who ain't worth nothing. Charlie Kelly is what a priest is supposed to be. A man who cares for his people.
I recently found out that my great grandfather and great, great grandfather were not born in Ireland as was told to me in my childhood, but in Trespassey, Newfoundland in the Irish Loop. They were there at least two generations if not longer before immigrating to Milwaukee in the U.S. It's been very difficult to trace more than these two generations though, as once you get back to Newfoundland, there's no census before the 20th century and because there were so many families that had the same surname. The names in my family are Curtis, Waddleton and Fitzgerald. When I go look at records it seems like half of Newfoundland has one of those three names. With the very common Christian names like John, Henry etc. that I have to work with, there is no way for me to know how long my family were in Newfoundland. They could have come a few years before my great great grandfather was born (1850) during the famine, or they could have come a hundred years earlier. Thank you for uploading this video. It's amazing to hear a North American accent that sounds like western Ireland. I guess it's not a surprise that people thought of them as Irish when they came to the U.S.
This is class. Unreal. I hope the culture is just as strong today and not wiped out by globalisation.
still pretty strong here yeah, but under threat from Canadianization after joining canada in 1949
@@juniper4009 Probably television and electricity and roads had an impact!
Sadly the accents are mostly dead now especially in the capital city its more of a mainland ontario accent, the southern shore on the ‘Irish loop’ still has the accent pretty strong, all of my family came from Ireland hundreds of years ago
The accent in town is all over the place, the southern shore is barley the bay lol. Come out a bit further, you can hear it better.
Is there places to stay on the irish loop if i came from ireland to visit
@@davefish4763 Definitely, A lot of cottages that you can rent for a weekend. I would suggest asking on the Newfoundland sub reddit, they'll be able to point you in the right direction!
If have to disagree, obviously it isn’t as prevalent in the city, but that’s to be expected with a bigger mix of people, but the vast majority of the city are baymen who moved in for school then work, you can literally hear every dialect (what it actually is) in the city, it’s just not every single person you run into like you’re out the bay.
@Logan Mccoy mostly newfoundlanders who moved there lol
Loved this thank you
Thanks for all these great vids!
Excellent video, thank you for uploading it. From Colorado, USA. Kristine Kelley
my grandpa left St. Johns Newfoundland at 14 years old in the year 1900, and went to Boston. He said that, "he didn't want to work as a fisherman for the rest of his life." In Boston, there were a lot of "Newfies", and a lot of jokes about "the Newfies", like my grandpa. It was affectionally joked about them that "the Newfies were too poor to take the boat all the way to Boston, so they had to get off in Newfoundland."
My great-grandparents left NL for Boston around the same time.
@@vanzarockin The U.S. was called "the Boston States" by modern Newfoundlanders in the 1970s and earlier. Modern Newfoundlanders seem to have ended up in Texas because of the offshore oil industry, I suppose.
My Dad’s grandfather was St. John’s too. Came down here to Boston. I always wondered what made him come down here. Your comment kind of answers that ❤️👌🏻
My grandfather also told me that he didn't like living under British rule in Canada, and that the USA was much better because we don't have a monarch or a dictator, and we have an elected government.
As a Waterford native, I loved this video. It's not just the accents but the way they speak, the grammar and the vocabulary that reminded me of home immediately. It's sad to think that the culture and accent will probably be lost in the younger generation.
Every generation thinks that the younger generation is going to lose everything and mess everything up. But that is usually not the case. I'm a Roscommon native living abroad and when I go home the young people sing Luke Kelly songs and Christy Moore songs. Life is good enjoy it.
Still alive and well my friend
@@Jimmy-nr4kr Even in 1977 when I taught French and ran the library in Long Harbour, Placentia Bay, all the students wrote in their compositions, "Je deteste la musique Western." I think they preferred "Mainland" music--rock and roll and the Beatles. The culture was fading before the onslaught of North American pop culture.
I'm Irish and a regular visitor to newfoundland because my sister married a newfie, in Saint John's the accent is a bit diluted with the Canadian accent but along the coast it's still strong, they are proud of their accent
@@regandeileenkingston5768 Some are ashamed. Some aren't. It a sign that you are not that educated although Ray Guy a well known Newfoundland essayist and columnist always flaunted his, I think. I recall years ago a lovely young woman who was doing her Master in Nursing Science at Queen's University at Kingston telling me she was from the Maritimes. Her St John's accent gave her away to me though. She was from the middle class of St John's, not "the Maritimes." Lots of Newfoundlanders up here in the Mainland deny that they are Newfoundlanders or hide it a bit.
Never met a shy Newfoundlander, always generous and great fun to party with.
Plenty are shy. Me included.
Your man at 20.58 got the sh*t hot dance moves to a banging tune, proper floor for it❤️☘️🇮🇪😍
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In 1990 I was in NY on a J1 working in a warehouse on Long Island. One day someone said to me I should meet John Branagan as he was Irish, saying he was Irish usually meant he had Irish descendants. Anyway, I met John and it turned out he was Irish (As in from Ireland - Or so I thought based on his accent). As we were chatting I asked him what part of Ireland he was from and he gave me this strange look and told me he was from Newfoundland!!
I had the odd experience at hearing a woman doing her Master's in Nursing Science give a talk at our local university. She had a St John's accent. I said to her afterwards, "Oh, you're from Newfoundland." and she looked at me sharply and said, "I'm from the Maritimes." LOLOL! Some Newfoundlanders won't admit they are Newfoundlanders. It's incredible! I guess they are sick of the racism displayed often from Mainlanders. Man, I know a St John's accent when I hear it.
Well I prefer the Maritimes, any of that area, hands down to the mainland - no offense to the rest of Canada.... well, except that Montreal was without exception exceptionally rude when I was there....
@@wildwoodsgirl1706 people have this incorrect stereotype of mainland Canadians being very friendly. They’re not. They’re a more serious, arrogant and patronizing version of Americans, and are often just as ignorant.
The ‘mainland’ is a term used to refer to rest of Canada outside of Newfoundland including the other Maritime provinces. The people are called ‘mainlanders.’
@@caitlinhickey6 I get along with Hamilton, Ontario & Kahnawa:ke ok, but I have experienced that overly serious (even humorless), arrogant, patronizing 'tude oh, yeah. In fact I went on a date with a guy from BC once & omg, for him that's an understatement. My brain hurt, he was trying so hard to appear intellectual so I politely tried to discourage further contact then had to insist, then get mad & finally exasperated... He followed me around for over two years bc he couldn't fathom not being seen as he saw himself. I'll add misogynistic bc he is but one source of experience that "women don't know what's best for them," & there was a string of incidents in Quebec of various guys capturing women & holding them prisoner in backwoods areas my oldest sister remembers from the late 70s & 80s, & 2 I saw on the news from the 90s. A pattern... I know Bear Patrol exists for a reason & RCMP harass First Nations young women on the regular, bc videos live-streaming for safety bc of bullying behavior (& probably far worse if not on vid) is a common enough thing. That guy walked silently up behind me when I was watering the lawn one day & I turned & a tiny drop of water got on his waterproof Teva sandal & he wigged as bad as the Habs' (Montreal Canadiens' hockey) PK Subban when he was harassing the Bruins bench & Shawn Thornton squirted his water bottle towards him playfully laighing, got a little bit on his clear face shield which sheeted right off, & MTL acted like it was assault & demanded he be fined, ignoring completely that Subban had been waving his stick towards people's faces & whacking it on the rail inches from them, trying to look tough & intimidating, & they have a habit of committing game misconducts (dangerous penalties) but whining & turtling, faking that a penalty was committed when one was not to affect a game or get a goal thrown out. I flashed on that as he threw his tantrum over one drip of water at 98° (so, quick to dry too) & pondered that I was lucky the St. Lawrence seaway was between me & mainland Can., growing up. I know some cool people there, but man there are some devious, self-important, nasty, jerks around them, yes, faking politeness. I think the constant apology stereotype comes from poor self esteem not manners. Halifax is nuts, but I have only met really nice folks in & from the Maritimes, but even the fishermen there were trying to scupper boats & cutting lines, dumping traps, burning a lobster pound etc, off Nova Scotia & lying about practices over moderate livelihood fishing rights treaties when Sipekne'katik ("Shubenacadie" comes from a misspelling, sounds close-ish) Mi'kmaw legally dropped lines in accordance with the Marshall Act upholding the treaties, & filmed everything they did. I have a long such list of examples of "I'll f up all I want, you will not protest, & if I'm walking all over you how dare you not just let me! Just do what I want or I'll lash out forever about it." Entitlement to the extreme. & Of course there are always also a bunch of Canadians saying they're screwing up & it won't fly, but it is a recurring theme. There is a considerable number of sheer assholes up there thinking that as long as they don't raise their voice no matter how outrageous their behavior is, they're in the right & you should obey them.
...That guy's dad found my number in his son's phone bc what he was hearing concerned him, & went with me to get a restraining order bc the jerk kept being so learned-looking & mild mannered to police they didn't know who to believe, & he spelled it out, thank goodness, do the dad was even a good man, a very good one. But that type wears their fake manners like a cloak & if the mask falls they still insist they're right no matter how wrong their behavior, & it is always the other person's fault. They don't learn, don't want to, & don't care. Sociopathic & narcissistic. We have that here but not with that blatant a level of it. & Not with such a deep real belief that if female it matters even less what you want, think, say or feel. There's a reason the Mohawks react as they do & show up for other tribes. That type fears them & they are needed when communities as a whole get dangerously pushy. People remember Oka. Canada is easily as racist as the US & Nazi flags have been flying at houses over the last couple years at least by people copying the US's most backwards trogs. That mentality is why Bear Clan exists, to keep an eye out for racial violence, bring community together, feed whoever has probs getting a job out west bc of ethnicity... I laughed when people in the US said they'd go to Canada if we turned fascist here or over racism. Same sh*t different latitude. Just a bit more confusedly self-assured when doing the. wrong. thing. I struggle not to be prejudiced against French Canadians for their dug-in bigotry & abject supremacy. Professionals with their company at the top of their profile will sexually harass & get really creepy psychotic at young girls or grandmas over a hockey game. Tons of them do it, as if it were normal & fine to threaten graphic violence & try to terrify some little old lady or 14 yr old girl! If anyone thinks all Canadians are mild tempered sweeties they have not met very many of them. A waiter in MTL wouldn't serve Dad bc he was Native, "sauvage," told him he had no biz wearing a suit, & called my mom an unrepeatable expletive in French & me the product of a filthy whore, etc., & as a hockey admin I now know it was NOT just that guy. I expect 50/50 trogs to humans elsewhere, but Montreal is filled with hate. They take overt pride in the "rude French," image & way overdo it. & If I went back as an adult I'd probably be arrested. I'll stick to making those idiots crawl back under their rocks in well deserved shock that they earned some verbal brutality, bc I won't put up with that. In the Maritimes, the illiterate in human decency ones, who are fewer there at least, at least expect a suitable response when acting like trogs & no one EVER treated Dad like a savage or was anything but friendly to him, and a sense of humor exists! Lol, /rant. 😂
@@caitlinhickey6 Mainlanders are not too helpful for sure. Not too friendly either. I think it's the fact that Newfoundland and Labrador is so thinly populated that people have to be friendly and helpful to survive and, generally, they are.
Awesome video - the songs, the accents - this could be in Ireland
My home! Gonna save it for later when I won't be interrupted.
They sound so Irish Sort of a Co.Waterford accent and I'm in Cork.
@@philipocallaghan They are from Waterford and Wexford and some are from Cork. They were recruited by the Bristol merchants to fish in Newfoundland for the season.
thanks for your hard work
I spent 6 months living on the rock, teaching in a Seventh-day Adventist church school. Six months of very interesting times. Being born and raised in Manitoba, which is as different from Nfld. as east is from the west, with the houses painted in stand-out colors, and for those who didn't paint their houses, or couldn't the entire house was laid with asphalt shingles on the exterior. I lived in Corner Brook, there was a large paper mill in those days called Bowaters. Probably not there anymore, at least not turning out the amount of newsprint paper that they did in the 1970,s what with the internet and all that it has brought.
The mill is still here in Corner Brook. No longer owned by Bowaters though, now run by Kruger. Definitely scaled back quite a bit from the 70s, but still running and the whistle still blows at 8am and 4pm!
Very interesting ! Thanks
My mother cane from the the West Coast of Newfoundland and in addition to the Irish and English, that area of the province was also mixed with Scots and Acadians.
A small % of Dutch and don't forget a Chinese restaurant.
@@speez6106 And a lovely pizza parlour down on Duckworth Street in the 70s. Who's says it's not multi-cultural. LOLOL!
Not many Scot’s actually or Acadian’s. Lots of French on the west coast
@@MOI-qq8zc True. The West Coast os probably all mixed. Nobody is truly Irish, Scottish or Acadian there anymore. My mother is a mix of all above with traces of Mi'kmaq.
@@nodreb123 very few Irish on the west coast of the island.
Mary said Passage west in Waterford. Passage west is in Cork, Passage east is in Waterford. Charming lady just the same.
Theres a few passages, but we won't get to that..lol
true - but she was reviewing old stories told to her of a place she'd never been
I grew up in Newfoundland on the southern shore, also called the Irish loop, and when I went to the mainland to work ... everyone thought I was from Ireland lol I didn't realize how thick my accident was till I moved away, literally they couldn't understand me it was soooooo thick lol
Having a thick Newfoundland accent is not something to be proud of. You’ll be thought of as stupid and uneducated by everyone else, including Irish people. A lot of Irish people compare our accents to Irish traveller accents which is terrible and I’ve already seen quite a few of them call us uneducated.
@@caitlinhickey6 No we don't. We are proud of all all expatriate sons and daughters. Accents don't matter a jot.
@@punchthedogThat’s your opinion, but that’s certainly not the sentiment I’ve seen especially among younger Irish people. Older Irish people certainly have more tact when it comes to Newfoundlanders. I’m from the Cape Shore, some of the people in this video are my family. Ive warned other Newfoundlanders that we’re not viewed in a very good light by some of you.
@@caitlinhickey6 Younger Irish people would know Newfoundland if it pissed in their eye. Older people like myself are proud of any Irish exclave. You guys are the next stop over.
@@punchthedog I’m a young Newfoundlander and I find the arrogance of your younger generation absolutely shocking. Hard to believe that you guys were one of the poorest countries in Europe just 30 years ago.
They seem to have completely forgotten their history and where they come from, what’s up with that? Such arrogance would never be tolerated in Newfoundland.
They should broadcast this doc on RTE.Well one can dream.
Doing around the world flight a few years back we discovered the short overnight flight from St Johns into Heathrow and discovered Newfoundland . Many years before we had travelled from Prince Edward Island to Victoria BC but never got to Newfoundland . Loved the people and accents , definitely a mix of Irish , West Country England and many others but quite unique in North America . Would be there again this year but for this covid thing.
Yeah, did you know that the first trans -Atlantic flight was made from a St John's field to a bog in Ireland by Alcock and Brown? There's a statue erected in their honour somewhere in Heathrow airport. I once stayed a couple of nights in the Gower Street Hotel and the plaque in the room said the two had stayed there. Back in December, 1970.
@@dinkster1729 Did not know that , we did visit Signal Hill where the first radio message was sent across the Atlantic . Quite a lot of firsts and yet very few people know where it is .
@@grosvenorclubLindbergh got all the glory! I think Marconi received the first radio signal on Signal Hill St John's.
@@grosvenorclub The New Gower Street hotel is no more apparently. I didn't know if Alcock and Brown had stayed in that very room or if every room had that plaque. Probably the 2nd case.
It’s interesting to see the opening and closing music being played on an Acadian accordion. When I first heard the music I was not sure if this was about Irish history or Cajun history. A pretty cool adaptation of the regional accordion to play Irish music.
There's a lot of borrowing of folk traditions between the Newfoundlanders and the Acadians. Look at the Mi-Careme tradition and Christmas Mummering in Newfoundland outports. Christmas mummering was still going strong in Newfoundland outports when I was teaching on the NE coast in the 1970s. I don't know if the Irish R.C. outports had that tradition though. There's a video of the Mi-Careme celebration in Cheticamp, Nova Scotia and a lot of the traditions are exactly the same as the Christmas mummers. The masks aren't the same but I've seen photos of the Mi-Caremes in the 1930s from Cape Breton and you'd swear these folks were Mummers from NL in the 1970s. The button accordian was a well known instrument played for danses in the local "clubs" in the 1970s. It's surprising that there are no "clubs" in this part of NL or maybe, the film maker didn't want to show them.
Not even born here and know more Irish and music traditions than me .From Dublin. i remember going up to Donegal where the girlfriend is from and they couldn't believe i didn't know any Irish or even Dublin music.
@beentheredonethat St John's is like that, too. Some townies can't even understand Newfwoundland English. Rick Mercer confessed he can't on a video. I couldn't believe it.
My grandfather he's name was also Ned Brennan ,Edward brennan my grandmother was a kelly
We are proud of our heritage. BTW I am of Newfie Norwegian stock and from one of the oldest families in Newfoundland
Can someone please tell me what version of Cape St Mary's is singing at 5:30? It seems to be al o donnell but the version only seems to exist for this documentary which is pretty crazy considering it sounds like the best version ever. Why the hell is it not available anywhere?
This was great, lived in Placentia until 84 where we moved to North Harbour then s few years later to Colinet then in 94" to Town.
These are my kind of people!
This is my hometown.. Branch :)
Imma Newfy , we have a place here in Dublin called Blanch, Blanchardstown it's a well known globalistic hub now, but I can remember when it was a lovely little village.
@@johnpaulwilliams6300 I lived in Co. Furbo about 20 years ago for 6 months and worked at The Connamara Coast Hotel :) I LOVE Ireland.. so many awesome memories !!!
Imma you in up in a beautiful place with beautiful people
Delightful music
I'm from Waterford, if Mrs Brennan was in a pub here chatting away - Not a single person in the pub would think she was out of place.
I remember about 20 odd years ago I was in a chatroom and heard some voices that sounded Irish, only to find out they were from Newfoundland. I couldn't believe their accents. They were older, I doubt the younger generation has preserved the accents like these.
Aye bi some have , if you get In the outport you hear her well bi.
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Aye you should come visit are beautiful Island bi . All are welcome.
I'd swear the man Alban Power, half an hour in, spent his whole life living in the shadow of the Comeragh mountains by his accent "Dya ever her talk of a scythe" 😂
@@jamesryan3059 Even the people of English descent in NL would understand that and think it very standard Newfoundland English. You can tell the difference among various Nwfoundland accents, but I think there's a common element perhaps.
Fascinating.
What forgotten Irish we are all accoumted for and you can't forget one whe.n you meet one, so there's not one lost or forgotten. 😜👍🤣
I wouldnt agree with ya there Keith
@@seamusburke9101 Its not a statement but a comment of pride. 😜👍🇮🇪
I for one will always accept and respect our diaspora I have been one myself for over thirty years
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@@keithwhittygmail Yis, sure, b'y! Nobody in NL would think that they were Lost Irishmen. LOLOL! They'd see the commonality in their culture with the Irish culture though.
that song they're singing in the church reminded me of Shane MacGowan singing Kitty in a pub.
That sounds like a banger il have listern to that
Oh' Kitty, me darlin' remember. That the doom will be mine, if I stay........
Patty Judge was my great Uncle he was married to my Grandfathers sister
Omg awesome video thank you
Is this RTE footage ? Wonderful to hear those accents barely changed several generations after they left Ireland. Also wonderful to hear the late Al O'Donnell, I think it is, singing a couple of songs on the soundtrack at the start. Though there's some great singing from the Irish Newfies too
To my eye It's either NFB (Canadian National Film Board) or CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation), or a joint effort.
BTW, you don't want to let anyone from The Rock hear you use that word "Newfie" - you run the risk of a Proper Kicking (speaking from experience!)
...but then in the end credits I see "RTE"...so there's my head on a plate!
@@robertmacdonaldbespokekilt3063 Leave a bit of space on the plate so for my head so - I should have watched all the way last night to see that. I see it's one of the 'Radharc' documentaries that I remember as a kid / teenager back in Ireland. The credits also confirm it was the late great Al O'Donnell singing. If I ever have the funds / good fortune to get to visit that part of the world - I'll bear in mind to keep the term 'Newfie' out of earshot. I'll call them people from 'Talamh an Éisc' instead.
@@seanoconnell8577 I’m from Newfoundland and I think I only know one person that ‘newfie’ offends. You’ll be ok if you use it with genuine intentions:)
@@seanoconnell8577 Perhaps the three entities (CBC, NFB and RTE) had some common guidance or inspiration for their documentary style back in the day...
As to the word - folk can make an insult of ANY noun - it's all 'intent' and 'intonation' (I was walking past a grammar-school yard the other day and I heard a child say "What, are you SPECIAL or something?" )
my memories are a few years old - back in the 70s and 80s it was a risky proposition for a 'mainlander' to use it (I can remember some epic barrack-room brawls that erupted after the word)
In hindsight. this was maybe because of the popularity of "Newfie jokes" on the mainland plus a growing disaffection with 'Confederation' on the part of the Newfoundlanders.
I'm proud to have been to Newfoundland, I went there in 1988 with my wife who's Father was a Newfie. When I first met my father-in-law I thought he was Irish but in fact his distant relatives came from Poole in Dorset. People came from all over the country to fish the grand banks.
When we look back a hundred or more years, many of us would be surprised where we come from
@@jamesbradshaw3389 absolutely
My mom's family is originally from ireland and moreso poole Dorset as well. Dad's family are all from cork and waterford. :) Loved seeing Father Kelly on this and Mick Nash
@@hollywhelan I have distant cousins in Co. Tipperary named Whelan, from over Co. Cork. We may be cousins, a hundred times removed, lol.
CR any information on the artists who performed the music in this doc?? this version of Let me fish off cape st mary's is extremely rare and probably the best one i've heard
What time is it at in the video?
@@user-oo8wt3hr1t around 5:22
@@crackerackadingdong I thought that was Like Kelly but listening again it sounds like someone doing a Luke Kelly impression lol, sorry I'm not sure who it is
I went on discogs to try and find every version that was ever pressed on wax. Still wasn’t able to find it. My best guess was the version on Songs of the Anchor watch which was a compilation made by the original songwriter but I couldn’t find a digital upload of the track anywhere. Might have to order the record. The production and audio fidelity on the tracks from it I could hear sounded quite a bit different though. I just want to hear a good old stripped down version like the one in this doc. Most of the others are more modern or have overdone arrangements
@@crackerackadingdong you know what but this might have actually even been recorded during the filming of this documentary possibly?
The tempo of the song in the opening scene reminded me strongly of listening to hardcore techno around twenty odd years ago a particular genre of that type of music that was very popular in Ireland and northern Britain at the time...... Probably not a coincidence I'd imagine.