a few things you might want to note if you update the guide... 1) kamaitachi will spam his boost and waste all your orbs if seimei has his buff up and his built in violent keeps proccing... so ppl want you to either use bunny or kamikui (aoe bar decrease... like prebuff verad) for bar manipulation. Also, for dps shiki I'd say the acceptable ones are, in order of desirability, max skilled susabi> ootengu> ibaraki> ubume=yoto. Since susabi is pretty new mostly the whales will be the only ones with max skilled ones.. but he will simply solo waves.. including orochi himself. Ibaraki users MUST have enough speed on him to be the fastest dps, and yoto owners must have her slow enough to NOT be the first dps... so it's important to tune dps speed if you're using one of those, not just speed tune supports.
oh I would also say that if you're not running at least s7 it's not worth wasting ap on orochi at all... should just be farming hard scenario and upping grade on shikis.
note that kamaitachi will ONLY waste orbs if he is paired with seimei with atk boost skill, any other skills or any other onmyoji kamaitachi will just spam skill 1, and if you have him on fortune cat this will actually generate orbs.
This is some excellent info. I'm really glad that you were able to clarify the Kama thing. That explains what I was hearing. If I could have one thing to say about the Susabi, I get what you mean but much like Ibaraki, I worry that the person needing this guide will be nowhere close to having the souls to do this correctly and will simply waste orbs. The person who has become very familiar with Orochi will be able to design a proper Susabi.
ya that's true, and susabi needs at least 10 skill ups to be even viable. While I prob wont have the resources to build my susabi for like 10 weeks (ugh) it was actually really easy to build a s10 viable Ibaraki. as long as you can consistently hit for even like 20k it will be fine. You don't need to clear the wave with him like the whales do, you just need to overkill enough for the next aoe to finish the job. The only hard part is keeping him speed tuned to go first. I imagine the susabi won't be too different but I could be wrong. I don't have firsthand experience since I have no black daruma :(
In time Jewbagel you'll get it. How often are you playing now? If you get your bond high enough with Strad you can use his rep several times a day to help clear solo content for progression.
lol it kind of rubs me the wrong way the way you pronounce the names, but I like the info you give. Also I don't think Semei will be the one that everyone will go for you're saying speed, but kagura with her skill to give an extra turn will be the one people would go for from what I hear.
The problem with Kagura is that Yama will not bunny dance the second turn, thereby wasting orbs and not getting the attack boost. The idea is going for the universally best option. In a group of people that know each other well, this may be the best move.
Yes. A good rule of thumb for speed is: Puller (Yamausagi, Kamaitachi etc.): 161+ speed Seimei: 128 speed 1st (aoe) DPS: around 125 speed, must be below 128 for buff (if needed) 2nd (aoe) DPS: around 120 speed 3rd (cleanup) DPS: around 115 speed, slower the better Zashiki: anywhere between 1st and 3rd DPS
The fastest team you can build for s10 is possibly Kamikui(shadow), sermei (128 speed ) ibaraki (high cad and full ca) , 2 yoto (Seductress) and Zashiki (Azure Basan, speed between 4 and 5 but cant be the last). You have to notice that your Kamikui need to have some damage to make enough damage to the Kusa in stage 1 because she heal after she get attacked which might make her not the lowest health rate, and ibaraki only attack the lowest health rate person in auto, you have to make sure he attacks Kusa. usually the Kamikui should be G5 with speed, Attack and Ca on 246 slot. This can allowed you to complete S10 in 35 seconds or lower. And it is the fastest team until Tamamo no Mae patch where you can use Kamiku, ibaraki, Ushi no Toki and Tamamo no Mae to build a 24 seconds team. But of course 2 AOE and one yoto is the most stable team use for S10.
Did you use footage from someone else in your party when recording the fight? Because when you were showing your collection, you didn't own an Ootengu, yet the oro10 fight shows you using Tengu! :O Small confusion aside, good video, solid information, I agree with the opinions you show! :)
I usually use Inugami, Zash, Yama, Kusa, and the last one changes a lot, but I tend to use Samurai X or a secondary DPS, usually Shuten or Hakuro, or a backup healer, like Momo or Chocho.
I always host (becus no one does) and two other people both bring zashiki + dps & click “ready” right away. I ask them to bring a bunny but they both don’t (probably not paying attention to the phone). And we get wiped. This happens pretty often. 😪😪
Yeah it's a bit of a problem in the game. I hope they (a) incentivize hosting like extra gold or something and (b) make a system that encourages fill roles out better. Sadly I don't know how to fix option b but I can tell you that it gets much better at s10.
Actually it was at S10 T_T Even today, someone lvl 50 was using fast iba & yoto (me with bunny, zashiki & my dps was slowest) but he kept aiming the middle enemies instead of lowest hp ones like kusa or shuten. I aimed at ootengus but he changed it to orochi instead & we almost got killed. I thought "hmmp ! Hope he learned his lesson" but he kept doing the same. We were fighting by tapping the target very fast. Then I changed to another team, I brought my dps & bunny, 2nd person brought dps & zashiki, but the host (lvl 50 ish) brought bunny and said "dps pls". We don't have 2nd dps of course & ended up with two bunny & got wiped. Sigh
BRO IM SO GLAD I FOUND UR CHAN... IM LVL 48 BUT ONLY HAVE 3 SSR SHIKI. YOTO, SHUTEN, AND Lord Adam. I was told. I'm a regard and should never duel. It makes me sad
SAY MAY lol,..dude did you not even listen to a single time his name was pronounce through the entire story, it was only called out several hundred or even a thousand times... its SEH MEI,... not saymay, it sounds like he's gonna be a siamese cat
i went public orochi 10 with this guy and he was using a slow ibaraki(my ootengu was at 118 spd) and here he is making s10 guide.wasting people ap in public
Not only have I not built the Ibaraki I have, but I also have no friends with an Ibaraki. There is exactly one time that I can recall where I can think of where I accidentally dropped in the Ibaraki instead of the yoto or ubume which I do have built and regularly run s10. If this happened to be the run you were in, I apologize that the run was messed up because of that but you should probably not jump to conclusions as regardless of the results of the run, you should know well (if you regularly run s10) that this is legitimate information.
a few things you might want to note if you update the guide... 1) kamaitachi will spam his boost and waste all your orbs if seimei has his buff up and his built in violent keeps proccing... so ppl want you to either use bunny or kamikui (aoe bar decrease... like prebuff verad) for bar manipulation. Also, for dps shiki I'd say the acceptable ones are, in order of desirability, max skilled susabi> ootengu> ibaraki> ubume=yoto. Since susabi is pretty new mostly the whales will be the only ones with max skilled ones.. but he will simply solo waves.. including orochi himself. Ibaraki users MUST have enough speed on him to be the fastest dps, and yoto owners must have her slow enough to NOT be the first dps... so it's important to tune dps speed if you're using one of those, not just speed tune supports.
oh I would also say that if you're not running at least s7 it's not worth wasting ap on orochi at all... should just be farming hard scenario and upping grade on shikis.
note that kamaitachi will ONLY waste orbs if he is paired with seimei with atk boost skill, any other skills or any other onmyoji kamaitachi will just spam skill 1, and if you have him on fortune cat this will actually generate orbs.
This is some excellent info. I'm really glad that you were able to clarify the Kama thing. That explains what I was hearing. If I could have one thing to say about the Susabi, I get what you mean but much like Ibaraki, I worry that the person needing this guide will be nowhere close to having the souls to do this correctly and will simply waste orbs.
The person who has become very familiar with Orochi will be able to design a proper Susabi.
I have pinned this comment so that others can pick up the extra info as well.
ya that's true, and susabi needs at least 10 skill ups to be even viable. While I prob wont have the resources to build my susabi for like 10 weeks (ugh) it was actually really easy to build a s10 viable Ibaraki. as long as you can consistently hit for even like 20k it will be fine. You don't need to clear the wave with him like the whales do, you just need to overkill enough for the next aoe to finish the job. The only hard part is keeping him speed tuned to go first. I imagine the susabi won't be too different but I could be wrong. I don't have firsthand experience since I have no black daruma :(
"some of you don't know what you're doing"
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In time Jewbagel you'll get it. How often are you playing now? If you get your bond high enough with Strad you can use his rep several times a day to help clear solo content for progression.
lol it kind of rubs me the wrong way the way you pronounce the names, but I like the info you give. Also I don't think Semei will be the one that everyone will go for you're saying speed, but kagura with her skill to give an extra turn will be the one people would go for from what I hear.
The problem with Kagura is that Yama will not bunny dance the second turn, thereby wasting orbs and not getting the attack boost. The idea is going for the universally best option. In a group of people that know each other well, this may be the best move.
Yes. A good rule of thumb for speed is:
Puller (Yamausagi, Kamaitachi etc.): 161+ speed
Seimei: 128 speed
1st (aoe) DPS: around 125 speed, must be below 128 for buff (if needed)
2nd (aoe) DPS: around 120 speed
3rd (cleanup) DPS: around 115 speed, slower the better
Zashiki: anywhere between 1st and 3rd DPS
The fastest team you can build for s10 is possibly Kamikui(shadow), sermei (128 speed )
ibaraki (high cad and full ca) , 2 yoto (Seductress) and Zashiki (Azure Basan, speed between 4 and 5 but cant be the last). You have to notice that your Kamikui need to have some damage to make enough damage to the Kusa in stage 1 because she heal after she get attacked which might make her not the lowest health rate, and ibaraki only attack the lowest health rate person in auto, you have to make sure he attacks Kusa. usually the Kamikui should be G5 with speed, Attack and Ca on 246 slot. This can allowed you to complete S10 in 35 seconds or lower. And it is the fastest team until Tamamo no Mae patch where you can use Kamiku, ibaraki, Ushi no Toki and Tamamo no Mae to build a 24 seconds team. But of course 2 AOE and one yoto is the most stable team use for S10.
Did you use footage from someone else in your party when recording the fight? Because when you were showing your collection, you didn't own an Ootengu, yet the oro10 fight shows you using Tengu! :O
Small confusion aside, good video, solid information, I agree with the opinions you show! :)
QueenBee, Ootengu HubBee and BaeBee, I am glad I have all the dmg dealers you mentioned :DD
I usually use Inugami, Zash, Yama, Kusa, and the last one changes a lot, but I tend to use Samurai X or a secondary DPS, usually Shuten or Hakuro, or a backup healer, like Momo or Chocho.
I always host (becus no one does) and two other people both bring zashiki + dps & click “ready” right away. I ask them to bring a bunny but they both don’t (probably not paying attention to the phone). And we get wiped. This happens pretty often. 😪😪
Yeah it's a bit of a problem in the game. I hope they (a) incentivize hosting like extra gold or something and (b) make a system that encourages fill roles out better. Sadly I don't know how to fix option b but I can tell you that it gets much better at s10.
Actually it was at S10 T_T Even today, someone lvl 50 was using fast iba & yoto (me with bunny, zashiki & my dps was slowest) but he kept aiming the middle enemies instead of lowest hp ones like kusa or shuten. I aimed at ootengus but he changed it to orochi instead & we almost got killed. I thought "hmmp ! Hope he learned his lesson" but he kept doing the same. We were fighting by tapping the target very fast. Then I changed to another team, I brought my dps & bunny, 2nd person brought dps & zashiki, but the host (lvl 50 ish) brought bunny and said "dps pls". We don't have 2nd dps of course & ended up with two bunny & got wiped. Sigh
Great work man, keep it up
It goes without saying that all of this info also applies to Evo dungeons. Hope it helps!
i love your videos i just started playing omioyji O>O what do you think about yuki ona???
Yuki onna was good when i first started out, but as the game progressed I found her not as powerful as some SRs like ubume, youko, or other SSRs
BRO IM SO GLAD I FOUND UR CHAN... IM LVL 48 BUT ONLY HAVE 3 SSR SHIKI. YOTO, SHUTEN, AND Lord Adam. I was told. I'm a regard and should never duel. It makes me sad
Hey that's my rep!
SaiMai lol
Welp, I don't have Ootengu, Yoto Hime or Ubume ._.
SAY MAY lol,..dude did you not even listen to a single time his name was pronounce through the entire story, it was only called out several hundred or even a thousand times...
its SEH MEI,... not saymay, it sounds like he's gonna be a siamese cat
Thanks and my team is slow af hehehehehe
4+4 is 8 6+6 is 12 its not double! QUICK MAFFS! :P
ahhhh.. huh?
4+4=8
There is more than one way to do 7+1 6+2 5+3 That is what I want to teach
i went public orochi 10 with this guy and he was using a slow ibaraki(my ootengu was at 118 spd) and here he is making s10 guide.wasting people ap in public
Not only have I not built the Ibaraki I have, but I also have no friends with an Ibaraki. There is exactly one time that I can recall where I can think of where I accidentally dropped in the Ibaraki instead of the yoto or ubume which I do have built and regularly run s10. If this happened to be the run you were in, I apologize that the run was messed up because of that but you should probably not jump to conclusions as regardless of the results of the run, you should know well (if you regularly run s10) that this is legitimate information.