Chrysler Straight 8s in the 1930s
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Walter P. Chrsyer with his first car in 1924 and with Straight 8 in 1930. Then see Chrysler factory building cars and coming off the line. The Straight 8 and other Flathead 6s and 8s gave way to more powerful engines in the 50s for cars but survived as reliable powerplants for industrial and other applications.
The film also shows manufacturing and a new DeSoto.
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Cars back then look way cooler than they do now
I learned to drive on my dads 49 Plymouth Special Deluxe. Cars back then were finished much better than todays vehicles inside and out 👍😉
No they weren’t. What an absurd thing to say. Cars “back then” were worn out before they hit 100k miles. The *average* age of cars on the road today is 12.5 years and there are plenty of 20 year old cars still doing service as daily drivers.
@@oldcountryman2795 I didn't say mechanically
@@oldcountryman2795I I think a case could be made that older body on frame cars were more repairable by the home mechanic than today's unibody, computer controlled cars. Modern cars are junked for the slightest damage, because everything is so expensive to fix. Older cars were more environmentally sustainable, in that sense.
@@oldcountryman2795 Better finished means better paint jobs, better detailing, things of that nature. And the reason cars were often worn out before 100,000 miles, (not all were), is because lubricants were a far cry from what we have today. Today's Japanese wonder cars would probably be shot by about 60,000 miles if motor oil was still the same as it was before the 80s. And there was a fair number of cars over 20 years old still in service back in the day. They were easy to fix and easy to overhaul. Today's tin cans are nearly unfixable - when worn out, you simply throw them away.
@@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL FACTS!
OK you've convinced me - now where's my nearest De Soto dealer?
If you time travel back to 1961 , you can find the last year they sold the DeSoto brand name.
You'd find them at your Plymouth dealer....Oh, wait....Nevermind...
The last DeSoto came off the assembly line in November of 1960 - It was a 1961 model....
It's on Main Street, between the Hudson Dealer and the Studybaker Dealership
@@janoldland8265 "STUDYbaker"? LOL Is that someone cramming for an exam while stoned? 😂
My Dad owned straight eight flathead Hudson hornet in the fifties. As a 7 year old I remember I looking at that flathead straight eight and it looked like those plugs went on forever!🙂
1955 was the last year of the straight 8 ,,Packard''. Pontiac had the straight 8 until 1954, maybe 55 , Buick, early 1953 and Chrysler's last straight 8, I think was 1954. Buick likely had the best straight 8 OHV , 285 c.i.d.. The others were flat heads and all above above 300 c.i.d. to equal Buick's horsepower. The Packard straight 8 had seven main bearings. RUclips,, coldwarmotors channel has a great 6 part straight 8 re-build and race two junked straight 8 old cars.
@@pauldudakadanielthomson8890 Last straight eights were - Pontiac and Packard, 1954, Buick 1953, Chrysler 1950, Hudson 1952, Oldsmobile 1948.
I knew a guy who had a Hudson around 1950 vintage. He blew the straight 8 and replaced it with a 6. the starter kept jamming, so he stopped using the car. We scrapped it in the mid 70s.
Always liked the DeSoto. I miss my '55 Plymouth Plaza!
I had a 55 Plymouth Belvedere. Wish I’d never sold it.
@@bradhampton6457 - They were roomy, reliable, cheap to run and maintain... I’d love to have my Plaza again!
Yep, nearly bought a 53 Firedome from the States, but instead found the 52 Diplomat.
Chrysler made a big mistake in dropping the DeSoto and bringing out that cut-rate Newport series. The DeSoto was a nicer car, it just didn't have the prestige of the Chrysler name.
@@michaelbenardo5695 - DeSoto was a popular car in its day.
My Dad and many of his friends always spoke well of the DeSoto as a decent car with a nice ride, plenty of power, and reliable.
Sad that we lost so many fine marques between the Great Depression and the post WW2 dominance of the "Big Three"... Also those "Big Three" models which were discontinued as well.
When cars were cars, not laptops on wheels!
Haha, laptop on wheels 🎡
Walt would be so upset if he knew how his company was now being run.
Oh him and Lee iacoca both are rolling on top of one another furiously almost sexually in the same grave right now!!!😂😂😂😂
Got hold of a mint 52 Diplomat. Very rare in NZ, have rebuilt the flathead 6, twin carbs, two pipes off of a bespoke set of headers /exhaust used at Bonneville for racing. Lovely car, and some great models over the years.
My dad was into stock cars, as the builder he used the engine setup and ported mentioned, a gutted coupe,and a larger Ford brake adapted front left. He said they were beating Ford flatheads
Glad you like it, as those were very good cars.
Got a kick out of "when a body meets a chassis comin' off the line" (as the Scots say, "comin' thro' the rye!").
Now I know the meaning of that song😊
@@javierdenardo2607
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My uncle always owned Chryslers, and DeSotos. My Aunt loved Plymouths, she thought Uncle Lin's Chrysler's & DeSotos we're too big!
The DeSotos shown are 1937 models.
Thank you for video ! Very interesting !
I had a 1950 Pontiac with a straight 8,not so peppy but reliable.
plymouth was still using the flathead 6 in 1955. I Was 10 and a neighbor had one. when I was 15 in 1960 we had a really tired used 51 cranbrook plymouth. I learned never buy a used car from a old farmer. They run them till there is nothing left. that old flat 6 was so tired when it was warm it could not get away from the starter. burned 2 quarts of 40 bulk oil for every half tank of gas. I tried to get my dad interested in rebuilding the engine but he wisely noted the whole car was shot. spent 500 on a good used 55 chevy 210 2door 6 stick. much better car.
Yes, I'd take the Chevy over the Plymouth, too. Those flat heads needed valve jobs almost when new. Plymouth used that engine through 1960.
@@1940limited I would have fixed the Plymouth. The 51 Plymouth was not a thing of beauty, but it was an excellent car. Better than a Ford or Chevy.
DeSotos were six-cylinder cars throughout the '30's.
It should of been possible to get a straight 8 in a Desoto.
@@paulshaffer9674 You could get an 8 cylinder Desoto in 1930. I'm not sure after that. For some reason Desoto and Dodge only got 6s. Dodge was 6 only after 1934.
There was a straight 8 in 30 and 31.
I would dare say some people would buy these Chrysler cars new today if possible......with disc brakes and A/C. They probably ride/drive better than new Chryslers today.
I have a 1937 Plymouth. Drum Hydraulic brakes, inline 6 cylinders. Armstrong Steering (Non-power), 3 speed transmission. It is not fast and does not drive like a modern car but is a whole lot more fun. Given a choice as to which new car I would want for my daily driver, I would take my Plymouth every time. It is a much more comfortable car to drive and ride in.
I would take an old flathead Chrysler six or eight over anything Chrysler makes today, if I could get a new one at the price they charged back then.
I would buy one even without disk brakes and AC. No damn computers, no catalytic converters.
The whole world should acknowledge that the standard of living that we enjoy today principally comes from the US mastering mass production hence lowering prices and making goods within reach of the masses , but nobody these days give them credit for anything like Britain which changed the world with the Industrial revolution .
The ENTIRE modern world was invented by the U.K. and the U.S. FACTS. Everything is a copy of Anglo-American concepts.
@@jamesslick4790 Now it's all made in China. I remember when everything was "Made In The USA." You saw that stamped on just about everything.
De Soto !
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It’s funny. That cars are still made in the same manner
Except for then.... They were built by over 10,000 HUMANS.
Now all those great paying jobs have been replaced by ROBOTS! 😖😞
That's not real progress.
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks Not that the ending result is good either.. pathetic plastic waste, unfathomably thick stout tires with ugly weak rims, and a copy over copy of ideas they claim as their own. Oh ya Tesla was definitely the first electric car....
They are made by computerized robots instead of assembly-line workers.
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks You can thank the Japanese for that.
In 1964 the American steel companies change the steel formula
Buick had an overhead valve straight eight well before this time...
Buick also pioneered aluminium in engines in early 20th century! No one realizes that all modern engines have Buick tech to thank!
Chrysler was president of Buick here in Flint till he got in a argument with Billy Durant...
True, but with 1930s rpm and compression ratios the better breathing of overhead valve engines didn't make a great deal of difference.
Laura Halliday Overhead valve engines back in the thirties did not have much of an advantage mainly because of their low compression ratio. The lack of high octane gas mandated a relatively low compression ratio.
But one advantage the OHV engine had was better thermal efficiency because the combustion chamber was smaller, therefore lower heat loss.
I had one of the first aluminum v-8's... in a little Buick convertible from the 60's.
Já é de muito tempo que essa empresa tinha uma preocupação com a QUALIDADE E A EXCELÊNCIA .
Volta para o Brasil 2021 !!!
Interesting the side mounts had just a wheel with no tire.
Much of the machinery in this film would be used years later when Chrysler would begin manufacturing military equipment, tanks and weapons for WWII. 🇺🇸
Chrysler is just a name any more. Seems like everything they sell is loaded with Fiat parts.
I hope the Fiat parts are made in Italy. I recently owned a 2002 Chrysler LHS . It was an okay car . I did not trust the fiber timing belts they use, so I sold the LHS and bought a 1998 lincoln mark 8 that has timing chains rather than belts.
Lousybarber could that be because Fiat owns Chrysler?
Changed the timing belt on my 2000 Dodge Neon @ 185,,000 miles, hardly any wear, no checks or cracks, edges on cogs still clean and sharp,could still clearly read printing on belt ( Gates ) put 247,000 miles on it with few issues, my 2013 Dodge Dart requires no timing chain replacement for life of engine..... 300,000+ miles
@@lincolnpaul1814 Fiat no longer owns it, Peugeot owns both Fiat and Chrysler.
And the Air flow?
Good!!
1:11-Men wore smocks then.
2:31-Frame "spotters" were located at strategic points in the plant
to catch the occasional upside down frame.
3:13-Each line had it's own 'Smock Boy'.
3:48-Ciaos ruled when a new Chrysler came through that would run. As you can see
people celebrated, flung their arms about and swung from the ceiling for hours.
It's interesting that back in the thirties worker welfare was so important that it was a major selling point. What happened?
I can't explain it. My relatives in South Dakota wouldn't be here except for the Federal programs that kept the family alive during the Depression. Somehow that's all been forgotten and people have been trained to vote against their best interests.
Post more of this stuff. This is right after I connected with you.
Walter Chrysler began as a workman in a railroad roundhouse, up until a few years ago the Chrysler company still had his old toolbox on display in the Chrysler building. He and other auto company executives took an interest in their employees but that was done away with years ago by the unions and government agencies. The new breed of CEOs know nothing about working with their hands and think only of enriching themselves even if it means ruining the company they are supposed to be running. It's not their fault, it's the system that has changed.
Once the accountants started running the company, Labor was just an expense item, not real people.
@@KingRoseArchives my family egg farm closed in the depression. I didn't even know we had an egg farm. Looked up the address. Sometime in the late 50's they built a housing complex on the land.
1:05 Shockingly similar to "body drop" footage up into the 1980s.
Shocking? Are wheels and tires shockingly similar?
@@georgewetzel4380 Ehh, DUH. Cars still have wheels/tires. Yay, you are a genius. Radios (cellphones are actually radios!) still use electromagnetic radiation to send / receive information in 2020 as they did in 1920. But HOW how a 1920 radio was made is not how a 2020 radio (yer iPhone fer example.) is made. Cars are NO LONGER made this way. The car (today) is a unitized body/chassis with parts bolted on to that ONE unit. That the chassis, with all the running gear and suspension ET AL, was a separate, functional device WITHOUT THE BODY was still a concept until the 1980s was what I was commenting on. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
There is no mention of any motor in this video. It is mistitled.
Thomas Talbot Well the first part shows of the Straight 8 vehicles and then it goes to manufacturing and a longer blurb on a later DeSoto. It's how it was all spliced together when I rescued it from oblivion in a Chrysler factory.
King Rose Archives fair enough. I really enjoyed the video. Its a real find. Just thought the title was off. Was hoping for details on those engines?
2:38
What Chrysler plant if you don't mind saying...
I think the silent part in the beginning was cars with the new Chrysler straight 8, but there's no mention of it. They also had 4 speed transmissions.
I thought this was going to be about the Straight 8 - a FASCINATING bygone engine. But there was nothing about it. 😣
I have always wondered how many main bearings on such a long crankshaft ...
Most had 5, but some, like the Packard and the Nash, had 9 mains.
I would buy one to
So the first SUV was started in 30's!👍🤗😎💓
Id be a good mechanic in the 30s..
Today cars are too unnecessarily complicated
This is when people literally broke their back‘s building cars 🚘
I got tired watching this video, now I got to rest.
Wonder how safe it was in that DeSoto plant. Doesn't look like there were a lot of safety rules in place.
People were working and didn't have all the safety crap! I worked on safety jobs that you were afraid to perform and get something done! Today as long as you can run a laptop your just great but I've never saw a computer get in a mud hole and repair equipment!!laughing
Beauty?
The new straight 8 engine with all of its 85Hp lol
It was only 240 cubic inches.
AM radio with 5 channels...lol
Stations!
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...and one day, a group of men will come and say WE ARE FOR YOU THE WORKER, and convince the workers to form a union. And once that union asks for more than the Owners are willing to pay, the workers will be replaced by Machines.....
Public pressure can put an end to Reaganism and make it Socially Unacceptable to be a cheap-skate.
Straight 8 ?????? Where
Chrysler fell apart all too soon.
It didn't fall apart, President Bill felt that the ever tightening regulations would later kill it, so he allowed Mercedes to buy it. They later sold it to Fiat, and Peugeot eventually bought Fiat.
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The advertising lasts for two minutes.
That's insane.
I refuse to watch this.
Don't complain when you can do something about it. Get an ad blocker or pay for RUclips Premium.
@@dlwatib Ad blocker is great. I couldn't stand the internet without it. At this moment I'm blocking 7 ads. That's why I won't watch network TV.
Cars back then were so ugly compared to cars now.
Back then, cars were so much better looking than the unspeakably ugly things coming off the lines today.
High quality because there wasn't any "African American" workers on the line.
You fucking racist
@The Raisin
Guzzling the orange koolaid huh raisin?
Better drink up, it runs out in November! 🤣🇺🇸
Back when whitewall tires were popular.
@@JTA1961 back when white wall tires weren't known for their association with route 66 and the 1950s.
There were quite a few "African American" auto workers. What country are you from? Quality fell due to to much pre-occupation with cost-cutting, and the ever tightening EPA and later, CAFE rules.