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I thought this was obvious. In Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub Zero it was kinda clear Bi Han had morals
You'd be surprised how many people tell me I'm wrong about bi han being a Dick but never fully evil
No one played mythologies, and for a good reason. If they could eventually adapt it into a comic or something, it could be more mainstream.
@@Eduardesuper Or make a remaster. I think it definitely had potential. The comics are somewhat more niche I feel.
@@darthmisogyny3828 Those people have probably never played a Mortal Kombat game before MK9. Or they played the original three and completely skipped MK 4 and the 3-D era.
>Hanzo begs for mercy
>rips his head off lmao
>gets duped by Quan Chi, puts all of Earthrealm in jeopardy
>has to get browbeaten into doing the right thing and fix his own screwup
>morals
What morals? Where? :v
I always had the head canon that after Bi-Han’s death in MK1, Shinnok personally tortured him in the Netherrealm as revenge for how the Lin Kuei inconvenienced him, burning away pieces of his soul until all that was left was a literal shadow. Then Noob was born as an exaggeration of all Bi-Han’s worst traits, while retaining all of his skill.
Looking back at that Games it hinted Bi-han did get annoyed that his brother was copying him as he said you always mimic me showing He knew he was trying to live up to being like him it also hinted Sektor might've used it and made him feel he could get whatever he wanted as don't forget not everyone starts off awful untill Someone like Sketor comes into the picture
damn thats dark :(
@@TheNightsideChronicles thank you.
Sub zero even alludes to something like this happening during their pre fight convos
The skill did not remain, lol
The main point of Scorpion's story was about how quan chi's lie made scorpion kill an innocent man.
Making bi han evil would contradict a lot of what makes scorpion a tragic character
To be fair, Bi-han did kill Scorpion so there was some vengeance to be had. But it was purely professional because they had conflicting goals. Quan Chi tried to make it an eternal hate by tricking scorpion that Bi Han also killed his clan.
MK9 actually shows a good way of this that the two clearly have a history but Quan Chi was very much manipulating Scorpion. Especially before he kills Bi Han. "That was not me!"
His conflict was minimally-based on killing an innocent man. His conflict arose from being manipulated by his family’s killer, who was Quan-Chi. But Scorpion could give quite few f**** about smoking Bi-Han because Bi-Han was an opp
I mean, I'm just glad they are doing something different with their stories, I don't think it would be cool if they just did the same thing, if you're gonna reboot, then do it properly. I just hope they don't just make a silly villan arc for him in the future.
@@andrepersan i 1000% agree with you. The one thing i liked about that modern mk live action movie was making a actual evil bi han.
It's so freaking cool seeing not just a new perspective on him but also getting to see a evil sub zero.
@@melbiamil5144 I swear to god Sub Zero and Scorpion are the only savable things from that movie
Bi-Han never hated his brother, Noob Saibot did.
In one of Bi Han's MK1 lines with Liu Kang, he also shows remorse for apparently trusting Shang Tsung. He didn't know about Shang Tsung's experiments, and shows remorese for going along with them.
He might actually be more complex than just a pure bad guy. This is especially because in the story footage we can see he doesn't hate his brother, and even tries to convince Kuai and Smoke that leading Earthrealm is a greater purpose than protecting it. He clearly has distrust for Liu Kang, but trusts his comrades (even if he doesn't show it as much as his brother).
I don't think he's evil in MK1, I just think he's overly ambitious.
@@juliankanzuki2013 Totally overly ambitious for sure. Bi-Han was never really a nice guy or good guy in the original times, but he veered more on the dark side of neutrally gray while having some set of standards that kept him from jumping into the side of true villainy or evil. All of that was lost when he died.
EDIT: Just corrected a spelling typo, lol
@@juliankanzuki2013 Spot on.
Maybe even to the point, where he might make potential choices that he'll probably regret.
I would honestly like the idea of Bi-Han beginning a dark path for what he sees as the best for his clan and especially his brother but for his allies to help him realize the error of his ways. Or that he has some sort of big moment of realization and begins to correct his wrongdoings.
All nuance is disregarded the moment he killed his dad, so its pointless to try to bring depth unless the dad actually did something objectively bad, rather than simply disagreeing with how the clan should be run. Bi-Han doesn't bow to Liu like he did Raiden in Mythologies, while Scorpion does. Scorpion's bio suggests he's gonna have to kill his brother.
Bi Han deserves better, he's more than just "Evil Edgelord"
Yeah but I do get massive Morally Ambiguous Edgelord from M1K though. Having him be Ambitious is a nice touch too
@@mettatonneoex i doubt he'll be with liu kang until the end but I'm really hoping the impossible that he will do the right thing on mk1
too late
@@jmgonzales7701he's scorpion now
i know, im just saying kuai liang was always the superior sub zero@@diamonshade7484
In my view, I've always thought of Bi-Han as a tough brother, the kind that very clearly loved and cared for him, but was tough on him to make sure he could endure the life they were being brought into. As a longtime fan of the Sub-Zero brothers, I've always wished and desired to see Bi-Han acting like the brother we should believe he was. He was never a bad brother, just probably a stern one.
What I'm really excited for is to see them talking to each other so we can nip it in the bud. That is if NRS doesn't fumble it, of course.
I've felt the same.
@@fairlywren3664They did.
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 They fumbled it way too hard. I thought the betrayal was a fakeout so he could help Scorpion and Smoke get away but no, he just turned on a dime. Then bro is like "hurr durr I let our father die". Like, what??? Bi-Han is all about the Lin Kuei, why would he not help the Grandmaster? They turned him into Sektor and it sucks.
@fairlywren3664 It's funny that they claim it's "A New Era" when all they've basically done is pallete swap and appropriate previous character backstories to returning ones. Glad I gave up on MK after X cause I knew they'd never make it better. I'll still check in now and again to see if maybe they can restore any goodwill but nope. It'll be like 20 years before another reboot happens.
Bi-Han didn't seem like an evil character, maybe a relatively cut throat character but not evil. Even in MK9 while he was still alive he was a hired killer but objected to being accused of killing innocent families. Partly because he didn't do it but also it's probably not something he would proudly do. Cyrax, Kuai Liang, and Smoke were willing to make moral stances putting them odds with their clan and leading to their heroic alignment, we just don't get a chance to see how Bi-Han felt or would've reacted in these cases because he's dead and under mind control throughout the vast majority of the series.
>objected to being accused of killing innocent families
lmao, did we play the same game?
Scorpion goes "you'll pay for killing my family and clan," and Bi-Han literally goes "bitch, FUCK your clan!" It's only after Hanzo beats his ass, and now it's Bi-Han who's begging for mercy that he goes "ohnonononono p-please I actually had nothing to do with killing your family, scout's honor".
@@NucleaRaptor that still doesn't state it. Not compassionate thing to state but I'm willing to call it more rude dismissal and outrage than a clear implication.
@@NucleaRaptor why tf would he apologize for something he didn't do, as well as a a literal beneficial event of his main rivals being wiped out? He's not evil, but he's not a good person either. A level of nuance that neither NRS nor some of their critics seem to grasp
@@midoriyaweed5508 The point is that Bi-Han is a fucking asshole, and any argument to the contrary is blatant revisionism. At best you can argue that maybe he's not an irredeemable asshole, but other than sparing Sareena for no adequately explained reason, there's no evidence that he actually took Raiden's words to heart and tried to course-correct. This whole "ACKSHUALLY BI-HAN DINDU NUFFIN" thing that's been going around ever since Legacy is really starting to get on my nerves.
@@NucleaRaptor When he gets accused in Mythologies on the other hand, he sounds confused about the accusation and tells Scorpion Quan Chi did it. He didn't mock their deaths in the slightest.
Finally someone who actually understands Bi-Han’s character and his relationship with his brother. Bi-Han is my favorite character, and to see him get constantly slandered by everyone is frustrating. Really hope he’s not getting corrupted again. Great video.
He gets slander because new players that were 1st introduced to the game with MK9 thought Noob Saibot was the true Bi-Han & Scorpion was innocent one because that's how Ed Boon had it written SubZero(s) = Bad Scorpion = Good.
I miss Bi han as a good guy.
Ed Boon ruined him again
@@dragonk4833 I wouldn't say that, this is an another alternate universe, remember.
Bi-han fit the anti-hero alignment but a much darker version. Motivated by self-preservation, though was capable of heroic deeds. Combined with his abrasive and a few redeeming personality traits as well.
Yep Bi-Han is the perfect character for an anti-hero archetype. Specifically the ‘does the right thing for the wrong reason’ kind of character.
Can my man Bi-Han not get slandered by the devs every time as this evil cruel bastard?
About as much as Stryker can actually not get jobber status I'm afraid
Pov kung Lao fans: it HAS BEGUN
It’s the same with rain man he was an anti hero in the original timeline then they made him a villain
@@arezlopez6021i think it's weird how Kung Lao barely talked shit about others in story mode but everyone treats as shit
@@wholesome_masochist4113I'm sorry, but who is this "Stryker" person you speak of? /s
I've always felt like Bi-han had to be a good brother for Kuai Liang considering the young Sub-Zero went through the trouble of avenging him in both continuities.
My headcanon is that Bi-han wanted to kill Shang Tsung in MK1 so that he would get that bounty and run off with Kuai Liang and provide him a peaceful life through the money and reputation he has made for himself
You’d think people would already assume that Bi-Han isn’t really a bad guy after knowing that it was Quan-Chi who killed Hanzo’s family. But for some reason, the fandom and Nether Realm treats Bi-Han as if doesn’t make a difference if he did kill Hanzo’s family or not.
A lot of people forget that Netherrealm isn't exactly the same as hell. It's implied that dying sends you there regardless of if you were good or evil, as characters like Stryker, Jax, Nightwolf and others were sent there while being on the good side.
They just assume that going to the netherrealm means going to hell = bad
It basically is hell though, it's canon that satan ruled it before Shinnok and Quan Chi took over
It is Hell though. its been stated multiple times to be hell and Quan Chi only had those souls due to Shao Kahn giving them to him (Which should be beyond his power as he doesn't own Earth but whatever)
Unbelievable Snake. Obviously everyone is talking about the live action evil version of Bi-Han smh XD
Nah, that's me, soon, in my new Kombat Theory short.
@@The4thSnake I remember my dad watched that movie and began thinking of Bi-Han as this absolute despicable villian with no good traits at all due to the 2021 Mortal Kombat movie, i had to explain the actual MK lore to my dad because that movie highly missinforms the facts about the characters.
That movie was fan service to Ed Boon cause the director knew he couldn't get enough of his Boyfriend Scorpion.
Now it's on game too, cool
Miss how Bi Han used to be this multi-dimensional character, he used to have so much mystery as to exactly what his character was and so much untapped potential for who he could have been if he had not become Noob Saibot, and there was so much potential for a Kuai Liang seeking to save his brother from his horrible fate.
But then the writers just kept ignoring him and only dragged him into games cause fans love him.
Human Bi-Han was always intended to be a morally grey character even in the original MK from 1992.
Scorpion: "You took everything from me!"
Bi-Han: "I don't even know you?"
Let's hope for a redemption arc for bi-han in a dlc or something, but only if ed bum don't go full anti sub-zero and destroy his character ever more
Hard to ever forget Bi-Han's morality if you're familiar with Sareena
Literally, sareena is the living proof that bi-han had some type of morality and Kuai-liang pursuit of honor for his brother redemption in the Original timeline.
Then there’s the fact that the man tried to leave the clan so he could cleanse his soul but was killed before he could.
How could I if she only ever mattered in Mythologies? She only made two playable appearances and one of them was for a GBA port.
@@_insomniac_423 well her character didnt matter but bi hans actions towards her did especially when u spare her and even if u account the ending where he kills her he still saves earthrealm indicating he does give a shit about his realm instead of being evil and risking his realm for the dragon army
So disappointed they made Bi Han evil again in MK1 😵💫
His not fully evil. His against Shang tsung experiments and killing children
In all fairness they had to do it to give us back the rivalry that MK always advertised. And I guess they wanted to make it seem stronger by making Sub-Zero and Scorpion actual brothers and originate from the same clan
Well…that’s his character so….
Bi han has always been a dick tbh
@@bn-tc2tkdid you not watch the video?
Was saying pretty much this to Fantim on our recent Tarkatan Bitesized episode, albeit in much lesser detail! People assume Bi-Han was always evil but just that scene alone in Mythologies of him being concerned when hearing he had evil in his soul demonstrates the exact opposite for me.
He is corrupted upon death and resurrecting in the Netherrealm as the tainted Noob Saibot, not prior!
Yeah but remember when in mk9 Shang Tsung tells Johnny cage to kill baraka in the first chapter Johnny cage looks at Bi-han and he nodds NO...that shows that he still had good in him not taking a life.
Im gonna wait for the inevitable "Bi han wasted potential video "
At the very least, I now have an appreciation for Bi-Han as a complicated guy who really needs a redemption arc
I’m glad someone finally mentioned that weird mention of Sektor in Kuai’s MK11 ending. The best I can get from that is that Bi-Han approved of the Cyber Initiative and Sektor planning to become a cyborg before he fought Scorpion, because the Cyber Initiative was planned weeks to months in advance, and Cyrax was only finding out about it right when the first tournament started. Not sure if Bi-Han would’ve approved of being a cyborg though.
In the MK2 prequel comic, Kuai Liang talks about how Bi Han rejected a lot of modern tech. This is contrasted with Liang arriving in a jet.
He seens like he is almost blindly loyal to the Lin Kuei and it's decisions. but he also reject tecnology. so it can go either way i think.
@@naos8116 I was going to say that it could be another way he changed when he was transformed, but the hourglass appears to be showing him and Sektor, both human, standing over a cyborg. I think the only explanation left to us is that MattSayYay's timeline is right and comic Kuai Liang is just totally wrong for some reason about his brother not liking technology.
@@Xick Perhaps the new timeline Bi-Han is less distrusting of modern technology as seen with his somewhat darker personality overall.
@@BlueSunStudios1To me it seems more like one more of the 10 million retcons in the NRS era.
I actually have A LOT to think about Bi-Han's potential in the MK universe so bear with me for a moment.
One thing that I always found it fascinating about Noob Saibot was his Arcade Ending in MK9
I always liked the implication where he betrays both Shinnok and Quan-Chi to rule the Netherrealm himself because it works with the idea that Noob is just the worst emotions of Bi-Han taking form. He now hates his brother, relishes on killing, wants more power than ever, serves people that are clearly evil with genocidal and not just mercenaries that kill some people for money, but most importantly, his hatred got stronger, and what are the people he hated the most when he was alive? The Shirai Ryu, Quan Chi and Shinnok. Which is why he ended up betraying them and taking control of the Netherealm (He says in the trailers that they could lead Earthrealm meaning he possibly feels a bit like he could genuinely makes things better and now as Noob he is distorted to believe he can do that by force, which is why he took over Netherealm as opposed to just leave it there after defeating Shinnok and Quan Chi.)
This can also apply to his corruption still not fully erasing his old self but just realizing what Bi-Han wanted in the wrong way, now that he conquers the Netherrealm and it's friends with Havik maybe he can revive Sareena, maybe he can also turn his brother into a Wraith so he can be with him again, the Netherealm are the source of Scorpion's power, maybe now he can make Scorpion weaker and kill him definitely, and he may even be able to finally stop killing after all his conquest is done.
Another way this could be interpreted is that the Wraith transformation is flawed because it keeps corrupting the revived corpse making him more and more evil which is why Noob betrayed Quan Chi despite being a supposedly more loyal servant than Scorpion, which could also explain why Quan Chi kept changing ressurection methods until he finally hit it gold with the Revenants who couldn't be lead astray by sympathetic moments like Specters and wouldn't get so evil they would plan to betray him like Wraiths.
Bi-Han's current positon could also make for some pretty interesting relationships with characters like Ahsrah and Sareena, Ahsrah could start the story hating Bi-Han and deciding to terminate him but later learning about what happened to him and end up feeling sympathetic for him since he was basically forced to be a demon like creature like her once was and maybe she could try to help him get better, there is also Sareena who was spared by Bi-Han once and almost got saved by him so now she can save him to finally thank him properly, hell there is dialogue in MKX that hints that she may even love Bi-Han so this makes the whole thing more interesting. Both Ahsrah and Sareena can even team-up for a while (which could result in other great interactions on it's own but we will talk about that other time)
Overall Noob Saibot corruption has so much potential and I hope M 1 K can capitalize on that because it's genuinely fascinating.
😂 this just proof, the most of the fans have at least better ideas for the plot but keep in mind i really think as franchise as big like MK games and movies doesn't exploit the real potential of the story because there is so much to cover. NRS they're trying their best but my God they come with bad takes.
I think a great way to better address this in MK9 would’ve been to have Bi-Han defeat Sonya. Raiden then intervenes, preventing her death, and scolds Bi-Han, reminding him of his potential fate, to which he would reply that he is earning Tsung’s trust in order to betray and assassinate him for his last mission, thus earning his retirement.
It would tie into his MK1 ending, give reason for the Lin Kuei fighting on Outworld’s side in the first tournament, and it would be a development of Raiden and Bi-Han’s interactions in Mythologies. It would show the grey area, where he is willing to commit cold-blooded killing in the name of his mission but also knowing he has to eventually change in order to save his soul; his death after this would be all the more in line with the tragic downfall.
And, it would rectify the stupidity of having Sonya defeat him at all. The chapter system was stupid but that was one of the more egregious examples.
This is really good. It’s a shame that this wasn’t thought of
This is fire
Really good plot. That would have shown how complex Bi Han actually is rather than a one dimensional "villain" character, which he never was in the first place. Truly, Bi Han deserves way more presence in the game and be one of main characters
In that case Ermac definitely should not have lost to anyone in 1v1 fights unless they all ganged up on him.
@@gabrieltejada1697 You’re right, he shouldn’t have. Ermac shouldn’t have been losing to Sub-Zero twice, Stryker, Takeda & Jacqui.
it always made me sad that ever no one saved bi-han/noob but saved scorpion
Its why i dislike it when people say they want Bi-Han full evil in this timeline. If NRS makes him a completely unredeemable prick, whats the point of noob?
Imagine they pull Twindel all over again but with Bi-Han, saying "he looks evil so he is evil and caring about brother is not what evil person would do"
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
Fucking Bi Han is now more like Shao then Shao Is in 1
So, as someone who watched the story... you're gonna be dissapointed about Bi-Han, Snake, just so you know.
Oh I know I was devastated
@@Zaire_39same 😔
Their writing for Bi Han was an utter tragedy 😞
@@pt7930 how Bi-Han can never get redemption but hanzo can despite Hanzo being objectively worse than Bi-Han will always astound me
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
I don't think this Bi-Han is evil his intro "it is better now that we serve ourselves" suggest that he cares about his clan he wants them to be self reliant and strong of couse it also suggests that he wants more power enough power to stand above the rest but obviously cares about his people
Yes. He’s just a leader who wants his clan to stop being second fiddle, that’s all.
Well even then he has an intro in MK1 where he is shown to be horrified by Shang Tsung’s experiments so he’s not unforgivably evil, just heading down a dark path!
I do think his ambition it's definitely way higher than most other timelines. He wants to become a Titan
I always found Bi-Han more so as an anti-hero who is willing to gets his hands dirty for his benefit or the greater good.
It would make sense since he comes from the Lin Kuei, a clan that decided cyborg themselves because of their leader and abandon their humanity.
But the new timeline seems to merge his Sub Zero and Noob Saibot personas into one.
I think Bi-Han's new personality is actually taken mostly from Sektor.
@@avaragehomuraakemienjoyer
Which is gonna suck for the people who wants to see a living or alive Bi-Han being his own person regardless of moral alignment; make him morally good or neutral or evil in a way that is supposed to compliment his pre-existing earlier Khrarakterization BUT knowing NRS with their Black & White mentality (which still seems to continue), keeping our expectations low is all the more wiser
Alive Bi Han was an assassin for hire. It was simply his living. Had Raiden hired him, he would’ve done his job. The only people who think he’s always been evil are the popular shills who probably weren’t around for the early midway games.
I'd forgotten how much better Noob's default MK9 look was over that of MK11.
And his voice was much less cringe. Just a normal deep distorted voice; much better than the wannabe inspector gadget villain bullshit we got in mk11
My only problem with the story of Bi Han is they turn him into a different character and don't expand on it at all. They make him into another henchmen for the bigger villains, but it's obvious that his has motivations of his own. He's not like the others. He's always been seen as a very powerful and mysterious character but nothing ever happened. If the writers won't make Noob follow through with his goals and just make him a background character even though he has so much potential to be bigger, than at least follow through with Kuai Liangs story to cure Bi Han to get his brother back. In his mk11 dialogue, he talks about the circumstances that made him into Noob. Let him pursue his goals: Getting revenge on Scorpion for killing him, getting revenge of Quan chi for framing him. There is so much potential for development to make a great story for Bi Han and it pains me to see this character go to waste.
have him be a neutral character for ffs and not just a gatekeeper to get washed by our good guys for the 1000th time, dude got humilated as noob in the past timeline by jacqui of all people who herself lost to goofballs like ferra torr smh
In Mythologies isn't he a sort of anti hero not a 100% villain?
He's a loyal assassin within his clan (of assassins). Not really a villain or anti-hero. Just a salaryman.
@@pious83 Gotta pay zee bills
@@seasonembrace3624 Exactly!
@@pious83 He honestly seems relatable minus the killing of course😅
Yup, and he being worried by the fact he has a dark soul indicates the guy isn't just a bad guy, just a ninja who kills for a living and feels desensitized killing ppl, yet have morals and want to do good for his ppl.
Midway: Bi-Han is a complex character
Player: How So?
Midway: He's got (backstory 1) and (backstory 2)... not to mention he (Shujinko ending 1) and (shujinko ending 2). He also has a troll hammer
-20 years of retcons later
NRS: Bi-Han hates his brother
Player: How so?
NRS: Because I said so. We write the canon
Player: Based on what?
NRS: Our shitty Shao Kahn Armageddon ending x Funny Kronika fanfiction
A perfect way to describe to the whole video context
This comment is gold.
The lady who played Serena back then is so damn fine
😄
I'm glad you're committed to calling the game "Mortal One Kombat"
I mean, that's what it says on the box.
@The4thSnake Technically, MK11 did as well, but it makes sense to distinguish this new game as such in order to differentiate it from the first game.
In my mind these games are: "Mortal Jeden Kombat" (MK1) and "Mortal Jedenaście Kombat" (MK11). I'm Polish.
Bi-han was a ruthless assassin and probably cared more for for the future of the Lin Kuei than for the good of Earthrealm. However, I find it hard to believe he would be needlessly cruel to his brother, his expected heir. Hard, certainly, but he would want him to excel, to showcase the best of their clan's strength. I can see them arguing over the future of the clan, Bi-han worrying over his brother's morality making him weak, but not him actively hating him from the start.
the typical older brotherly rivals was a good way to put it. but Bi-Han was definitely born anew as Noob. his mk deception ending was my taking point. especially with him killing his old "self" and his brother who was his last connection to that.
And they even kinda tied it back to his showing his compassion in Mythologies. Sareena arrives and saves Sub-Zero from getting killed there canonically. Because of Bi Han's compassion (which was stripped from him), he saved his brother down the line. Obviously, not intended, but when you think about it, it's really cool.
FINALLY! Someone with common sense! I’ve already subscribed, and I’m glad I did.
Welcome aboard.
Developers only made Bi-Han (prior to becoming Noob) evil just so Scorpion would come across as “the good guy”. Which is total BS considering Scorpion was actually a villain who would cause problems for the protagonists. Ed Boon is a big Scorpion fan, so that’s why Hanzo is all of a sudden a hero.
While joe taslim did a great job portraying him in the new movie, I hate how they basically made him a pawn for Shang Tsung, and completely evil. He’s a conflicted man who at the end of mythologies questions his actions, but like you said it’s too late by the time he can really change
I hope the next game re-rails Bi-Han's characterization to be closer to how he was in the older timelines; still a prick but a prick with standards
If Jin Kazama from Tekken can be redeemed, the same can be done for Bi-Han
That would mean putting effort in which they won’t. Also, why is that Bi-Han can’t get redemption but Hanzo can despite doing far worse than Bi-Han?
Fuckin thank you! Him being evil to the point of cliche in MK1 was really annoying. I was really hoping to see him be more of an actual character and see his relationship with his brother but, fuck me I guess.
I've always thought this, story wise it's so much more tragic to see an innocent man brutally slaughtered for a crime he didn't commit, i also find it strange that Kuai Liang doesn't realize his brother is brainwashed, and hates him now and sides with the guy who was blind with vengeance and murdered his innocent brother ? To me the ultimate wasted plotline is Kuai Liang and a reformed scorpion trying to restore bi han. Scorpion should have died at the hands of noob saibot, but is okay with it because he's THE ONE WHO MURDERED BI HAN FOR NO REASON. absolute waste of 3 characters who had such potential for a tragic/heartfelt storyline.
I don’t blame people making this misconception when most of Bi-Han’s development occurred in a universally panned game from the late 90s.
Yeah but you would think that Dominic the guy who is supposedly more knowledgeable of MK than Ed Boon (Boon’s words by the way) would know about Mythologies but nope he continues to prove he knows nothing. MK11 was big proof of that.
Sure is hell is evil now unfortunately. Boon has to get his scorpion style eternal revenge on bi-han
never viewed him as evil but just a ruthless assassin. his brother is more human while he is just on the job. he has his own code of honor which is the lin kuei above himself while his brother put family above the clan.
I really hope Bi-Han’s relationship with his brother is represented well in MK1. I’m a sucker for a good brother story and I’d love to see a good one between two brothers and an adopted brother because of how close to home it hits.
This aged well. Mk1 Bi Han is not only evil, but really dumb, douchy and naive to believe deadly alliance and betray his brothers in a span of like 10 minutes. This, ladies and gentlemen, is on par with Sindel mk11 retcon
Well really if they wanted this rivalry between sub zero and scorpion they could have had bi Han betray all of them the deadly alliance and Shao and the heroes to use the dragon army to protect and keep Lin Kuei away from Liu Kang and Shang Tsung being a neutral faction instead of just siding with the deadly alliance and according to the dialogues for the future mk13 game freeing general Shao giving him a full heel turn, like they got to give him the noob saibot treatment again smh
Its worst, because atleast in sindel case, her good side is said in bios, but we have a entire game showing that sub zero is not just a asshole
@@shawerful5209I think this is not too bad as it serves a puroose
I think this is far better as it serves a purpose to the story to serve. A new rivalry
@@thedarkroom6416what does it serve really other than Kuai Liang getting all the wins especially when he has Liu Kang and Outworld by his side to support him while bi Han is getting betrayed by General Shao after freeing him btw, if anything its a one sided rivalry which we will see Bi Han become a jobber like in the previous games again
Kinda sucks that for this timeline reboot, they're trying to insist that Bi-Han was always evil. Like in MKM:SZ he had morals, in MK9 it was the same, he was innocent for murder he didn't commit.
Only the live-action of the first MK movie and the reboot is Bi-Han portrayed as being evil.
If i was tricked into reviving the devil by an occult wizard and then got burned and decapitated by a vengeful spirit for a crime i didnt commit i would also be kinda angry ngl
I think Kuai Liang also rejecting his brother in MK 11 and labeling him as a lost cause also contributed to the unfair judgement of Bi-Han's character. But that's just bad writing in MK 11's story
Or it was just the…years and years of Noob trying to kill him and rejecting him as well lmaooo
It's funny, both in the story and in his dialogues with Noob, Kuai Liang rejects his brother and says that he is a lost cause, but in his dialogues with Fujin he says that he wants to save Bi-Han. How bipolar was MK11's Kuai Liang .-.
Honestly I agree with you
Bi-han always gets labeled as the evil one without going deep into the research.
I personally became a fan because of how bi-han was before his death. Hyped that we get him in m1k but I'm worried netherrealm may fumble the ball. And just make him evil...Though kuai as the new scorpion gives me some hope that bi-han won't be a villain as time goes on. He's yet to become noob and from what it seems he doesn't have something that makes him consider his actions yet so he'll have that taint... So it may make sense why he would be so cold on this game
Hopefully by the next MK we'll be given something that shows his good side as he will go from possible villain to anti hero. Maybe sareena will have something to do with it or maybe we'll have a version of Noob that'll be that bi-han's literal evil clone so in that case he does not have to die and gives him the chance to reform... who knows we just gotta cross our fingers and hope on this one
To be fair even Shujinko had a Taint on him as well mentioned by Nightwolf.
Having Kuai Liang as Scorpion gives me some hope they aren't just going to instantly kill him off in the first game he comes back. It would be strange to have a game without a Sub Zero.
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
He’s probably gonna be a twist villain traitor or something
Hope not tho
Finger's crossed lad
I love your passion for this franchise.Respect to you my dude ❤
And this is why you're one of the few MK content creators i watch & trust. Informative & concrete; which is something majority of MK content creators lack & instead are filled with ignorance.
And MK fans' indifference..
I've said this for years. People really judge morality black and white. Morality has shades of grey as well. As my favorite character I relate with him. As a bit of a tortured soul. I get his personality 100%.
Finally someone acknowledged this. 4th Snake I can't thank you enough for making this video. You are an absolute legend. I'm tired of defending Bi-Han against Scorpion fanboys who knows nothing about the lore. I mean you can like whoever you want but at least use logical arguments. They always say "Bi-Han was evil because" but there is nothing after the "because" part. Yeah, he was ruthless unlike Kuai Liang but he wasn't a bad person. He was an assassin just like Hanzo. Clan orders him and he does what he needs to do. That's it. He even spared Sareena. Myhtologies was a goofy game yes but on lore standpoint it was good imo. Dark and creepy vibes were perfect. It showed even in that Bi-Han was just a soldier who will complete the mission no matter what.
Such a good video. Wish I could like it more than once or donate you some money. You definitely deserve it. No joke or sarcasm.
Your kind words are enough.
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My personal headcanon who Bi Han is as a person is what most people wanted Kuai Liang's arc to be, but with him almost refusing to fully change. Basically, he's a person that keeps the Lin Kuei first and foremost, even if others try to reach out to him and thaw his frozen heart
He clearly has compassion for Sareena and concern of things being too late to save his soul. He seems like the type of person that understands where he is in the world and is mostly content with it. Granted, Sareena and the compassion he felt for her may have made him rethink that position, suggesting a thawing heart, but he purposefully keeps his true emotions locked up
Thank you for saying this. I’ve been getting sick of people thinking he was always evil. It’s way more interesting anyway for him to go from good to bad than for him to go from bad to worse.
the idea that Bi Han is evil because of what he said in MK11 is also dumb because the same character in intros shows the human element trying to break free like when he talks about how Scorpion killing him and looking for justice, only to get told to get fucked by the good guys. Bi Han wasn't always a good person but to claim he never had any good parts or had some kind of love for his brother is absurd.
I think he's essentially Neutral, but that neutrality may be construed as being on the darker side due to the setting he's in. I mean, in a world where it's normal to kill someone in a fight, Liu Kang is seen as a paragon while still having a body count
Everyone likes Kuai Lang but I always preferred Bi-Han as the original Sub-Zero. He is much cooler to me.
I'm actually surprised some people think pre-noob saibot Bi han was always evil, kind of a dick maybe, but evil?
I don't really see Bi-Han as evil in the new timeline, so I don't know why everyone thinks he is based off the few dialogue we get from pre-fights in 1. If anything, what Bi-Han is doing in 1 is what he feels is best for the Lin Kuei even if others disagree with him. In every timeline, it's all what he did before his soul was corrupted into Noob Saibot after death. It seems like it's a case of the community making Bi-Han out to be a villain because they want to see the villains already
Bi-Han arguing that the Lin Kuei settling for being defenders rather then leaders of Earth realm is what based for the Clan? Plus the pre-dialogue is important enough to let us know Bi-Han is clearly being a lot more ruthless with his actions costing lives as Liu Kang says, plus he him wanting what is inside the Temple of Elements doesn’t give off any type of good intentions. It’s obvious where NRS is going with Bi-Han.
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There's a stark difference between ruthless and evil. Bi-Han has always had a ruthless streak in the games he has appeared as Sub-Zero by the very nature of the Lin Kuei being a clan of assassins. The dialogue with Johnny Cage implied that he was on less than good terms with his father, almost as if thinking about his him brought him pain. We won't know where he would fall until the game releases, but this iteration of Bi-Han strikes me more as troubled and wanting to free himself from generational trauma by any means necessary than being evil
I also think the biggest hint was after Scorpion was shown the false past of Sub-Zero killing his family and clan, Bi-Han tried to plead with him that he didn't do that at all. If Bi-Han was indeed a total irredeemable person, why would he even try to deny something that he had supposedly had caused? It would go against of pretty much everything of what he had done prior during his life as an assassin, and he would know directly what he has caused and the people he has killed since he is an assassin.
I always saw Bi Han as an asshole, not evil. I do hope this is all a set up for a redemption story.
How was he an asshole?
@@shamarbarrett9958lol😂 what kind of question is that?
I sort of like how MK1 is turning Bi-Han into an asshole but not evil. Bi-Han may be self serving but I dont imagine he will betray his family and clan
Sub-zero is my favorite MK character. I love his powers and backstory and the fact that there were two of them. Mythologies was one of the stories where I saw him as a conflicted good guy.
bi han is a child soldier, so darkness was forced on, him... he most likely took on more morally ambigiuos missions simply to protect kuai liang, and all that messes with your mind. is isnt straight evil more of a lawful version. and quan chi just brought that part out to the front like how scorpion is hanzo's darkest emotions....since those 2 became so strong chi didn't do the same to the others
I always seen Bi-Han like Itachi from Naruto teetering between anti-hero and full on villain, but in MK1 he’s the worse, letting your own dad die, going as far to hurt your brother just to prove a point how much of a asshole you are just to have power, he treated Smoke like shit too. He’s irredeemable
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han; these are the same writers who wrote the BS Twindel kharakter Retcon in MK11
*Didn't Bi Han save the Earth? I believe Raiden mentioned this and it was in the original canon. I never thought he was evil based on the original story.*
Unfortunately Ed Boon with his bias reasons made Bi-Han's new MK 1 variation more into Sektor instead of the Bi-Han from the last 2 timelines. Once again he stripes everything that made the Zero brothers stand out & awesome in their own way & gaved it all to Scorpion in this variation. People don't understand Bi-Han wasn't evil to begin with from the last 2 timelines he had morals but with him being an assassin there's always going to be impurity from that line of work. Bi-Han when he was transformed into Noob was stripped from any emotions & brainwashed by Quan Chi which destroyed any little amount of good & compassion within him. People really need to do their homework because non of these ninjas were by any means innocent since majority of em were assassins especially Scorpion isn't so innocent as well. Too bad the writing in MK has gone down ever since John Tobias is hardly involved with game lore because Boon & his writers clearly can't stay consistent but only with certain characters Scorpion being one smh.
Gotta agree. It seemed like MK9, X, and 11 couldn't quite make Bi-Han evil because the events of Mythologies still existed as well as Kuai Liang's desires to save him as the second Sub-Zero. MK9, he was a dick but is killed because of something he actually hasn't done to Hanzo. MKX, Sareena aids Earthrealm due to Bi-Han's actions while Kuai Liang finally absolved Bi-Han of the accusations Hanzo believed him to have done. MK11, even after all that, Kuai Liang still wants to save Bi-Han's soul even if it's the most questionable act he'll commit to do so.
...So MK1 completely wipes that part of Bi-Han clean and let his darkness grew so he can be hated proper. Even then, I bet they'll eventually write Kuai Liang as wanting to save Bi-Han again despite all he did because of course, he's the "good" Sub-Zero at heart. Not too disappointed but yeah.
@DevilPogoStick Thank God you get the character. I ain't giving Ed Boon the benefit of the doubt anymore honestly. Now since Hanzo is back as a child in smokes ending I would suspect he's going to recycle Bi-Han becoming Noob Saibot again but this time him dying by his brothers hand using kid Hanzo as a means to kill him. One thing to notice he writes Scorpion better since the reboot in MK9 & until now I'm not holding my breath. Only time will tell if they decide to add an add on story like they did with MK 11 by adding Aftermath.
Well spoken my friend, very troubling that Ed gives to much to scorpion lore and keeps taking from Sub-Zero his bias is ruining the franchise.
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
BI- Han is not completely evil but he is more valent then his brother who was more likely to pair people
As soon as the game dropped I came here 😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve never really got people believing the revenants when they say they like being evil. The only corrupted character that didn’t talk about enjoying it was Scorpion. Jax as a revenant said he loved it! But when he’s back to normal that time haunts him, and nobody questions his sincerity.
Bi-Han was a ruthless killer, noted for his efficacy. He was one of the Lin Kuei’s best fighters, and the best fighter before his death. He was not a very good person, but he was NOT evil yet. He had arrogance and pride, yes, but also honor, compassion and a capacity for mercy.
The new game comes out in a few weeks so we will see if I’m right, but I suspect Bi-Han will be an antagonist in the since his pride and ambition lead him astray. He talks about wanting to do more for Earthrealm than just waiting to protect it. He doesn’t want rule it (yet), but his ego wants a bigger role. This could lead him to the path of corruption and death like previous timelines, or it could be his brother dies instead and he is snapped out of his quest and feels guilt. ( if Kuai Liang becomes Noob Saibot that could be intresting.
I don’t mind him being a jerk, but he was NOT evil until his death. Except for the film, he was definitely evil there. And maybe this new timeline.
I think people say that because it is easier thinking everything was always the same than accepting that the character changed, like how everyone will always default that Sub Zero and Scorpion will want to kill each other unless specified otherwise
Maybe they think Noob was always the same so there are no need to restore his past self
Who needs two characters with ice powers when you can have one with ice and other with shadow powers?
Man I needed this video, also in mk 9 even raiden couldn’t make it more obvious about bi han morals and why he didn’t want hanzo to kill him
Pretty much all interpersonal dialogue from revenents was 'I know you, so I know what I can say to hurt you the most, espicially when it comes from the mouth of dead friend/family member', which is not the same as 'I'm just saying what I was always thinking now that it doesn't matter'.
i’m thinking Bi-Han is doing what he thinks is best for the Lin Kuei, and it’s to not be just a simple “guardian”
I’ve always thought that since bi han hated quan chi, Quan chi turning him into his servant as kind of like it or not I can control you type of thing
Thank you!! Ever since the trailers came out I felt that there was something off about Bi-Han being power-hungry and ambitious as his natural state
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 Yeah and also from a story-telling standpoint. It's much more impactful to have a (although flawed) hero become an avatar of evil, than to have a bad guy turn...more bad 😒
Why do hey want Bi-Han to always have been bad? This makes me think that "Twindel" is here to stay...
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
You know what I'm truly afraid of @The4thSnake ? They make him fully evil in Mortal 1 Kombat and end up with him somehow transforming willingly into Noob Saibot.
I FUCKING HOPE NOT
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
Bi-Han's gonna be the new Sindel. Just watch it.
and it happened. God dammit...
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
This is what I've been trying to tell everyone Bi-Han isn’t an evil guy rather a misguided one just like the rest of his clan which includes his brother Kuai Liang, Smoke & Cyrax. In MK9 Raiden states that Bi-han once helped him in protecting the Earth realm. Bi-han deserves a happy ending like Hanzo. It would've been much more interesting if Bi-han gets injured instead of dying & becomes cyber-subzero while Kuai Liang becomes Subzero & both brothers working together.
Gods, I hate how the MK1/12 story basically had Bi Han breathing that "I'm a Bad Guy™! I have Bad Thoughts™, and I Don't Like Ethics or Beta Boys" that I hoped when they got to the Lin Kuei joining the Bad Guys, he would've subverted expectations, but no... NRS is dead set on pushing the "Scorpion is the good guy retroactively" bit 😒
Welp...I knew that when bhan turns evil from start peoples will think that he always was evil incarnate
cause people lack the brain cell to understand characters arent stereotypes like mk11 sindel
@@Layd36 Eeeee...XACLY!
@@nerdodragonnerdpl4167I mean even if they make him evil give him a good showing for heavens sake, with this god awful chapter system most villains end up as jobbers to defeat and now bi Han will end up as one sadly, I say same thing with Sindel but really all they did was make her dumb enough to trust Shang Tsung and gets her soul taken and forgotten
@@Layd36 ye!
Mostly true
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
In either MK11 or MK9 (maybe both); Kuai Liang restores Noob Saibot into Bi Han, and he's now partners with his brother as the sub-zero duo
You'd think that hard-confirms that Bi-Han's disdain for his brother comes from his corruption, and acutal living Bi-Han cared for his brother, but i guess expecting reading comprehension like taht is too much.
Hopefully he won't get dropped after one game this timeline. I think him being Neutral, makes more sense, he's rough, but has some level of honor. If Kuai has to be scorpion this time, I would like it for Bi-Han to stick around and grow more as a character.
I think there is plenty of evidence to suggest that Noob Saibot is akin to “Venom”/“Symbiote” from Spider-Man: it is the enhancing of darkness that is present in a character.
I literally cackled when he paused inside the treasure room like. Has he never seen money before? Is an army and shiny gold coins literally all it takes for him to turn "must rule the world" evil?
but really man if they wanted that betrayal arc they could have had him betray shang tsung and scorpion taking the dragon army with him, instead of being sidelined for the plot like dude was only used as a shock factor moment and when his times gone he fucks off from the story, doesnt even show up teaming up with his brother for once even if he betrayed him like seriously wasted potential
Sindel: First time?
You at least got the point:
What you said… Sadly became reality with MK1.2 😢 😡 where NRS has Twindeled Round 2 to Bi-Han
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I wonder which character they finna turn into some psycho next.
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You mean making that kharakter psycho for no logical reason? That is what NRS is doing to a good amount MK kharakters who are originally Grey zone kharakters
Can you think of any other MK kharakters who are also being reduced to caricatures from the corpse of a multifaceted MK kharakter by NRS “writers” who are too immature about human morality?
Been fighting for my life on Tik tok about this Neatheralm will do anything to make scorpions past crimes justified no matter how bad they were
It wouldn't be a tragedy if homeboy was already evil.