I upgraded to warm-white LEDs in my Marantz 2250, and to get that hard-to-duplicate, proprietary Marantz teal color, I used a sheet of light tan colored 24 lb (or higher) paper, then sprayed both sides of it with some gloss clear-coat spray paint. After letting it cure for a few days to avoid any outgassing, I cut a strip off, and installed it behind the dial, and, VOILA; it's 1975 again!!!!!
Thanks for this, i have a 2230 which also had thay aqua look from yellowed paper, i swapped to new paper and warm white leds, the blue looks really good now but a little bit of a hot spot look, should i put double layers of paper, do you have any suggestions?
I have seen a couple of different variations of filament lamps. Both were 250 millivolts and both were 1¼” long, but some had only about ½” of actual filament. These short filament lamps are sure to leave you with hotspots on your dial. I have heard of people doubling up on the Velum, (I use standard kitchen parchment paper), but I am not sure how much that that will help.
@@JukeboxAlley It has been a while since I did this video, but I just do not remember there being any meter papers. I think that the backs of the meters are translucent white, and the lamps shine from behind them.
@@KKnockk On the 2230 there is paper on the tuning meter, glued at the top and bottom, but it has a cutout for the connections, its just like the dial paper just a custom cut pretty much, its looks to be a real pain to change.
How do you wrestle the light panel out on the 2240? There is a lot in the way including the pulley in the center just behind the panel. Not enough room to get it past?
It has been a long time since i did this, and I can't remember if I replaced the lamps from the front (when I was changing the velum) or from the rear. I believe that if you take the black shield off of the tuning box, and carefully release the mechanism below, it can be moved enough to allow the lamp board to be removed without having to remove the dial cord from the tuner. I do not really recommend this method, but If you do, proceed with extreme caution.
@@KKnockk Thank you very much for the reply. There is no room to maneuver the light panel as far as I can tell. If removed from the front, will I be able to solder the 2 pin lamps?
One touch of your soldering iron on the dial string, and I am sure that you would swear so loud that I could hear it from Canada. I usually drape a couple of layers of paper over the dial cord to help prevent that. OR You could try to move the box that holds the tuning mechanism back by enough to remove that lamp board.
The blue LEDs are so bright, they overcome the yellowing velum. I don't feel that it is important to change the velum if you are going with blue lamps. The colour LEDs that you use is purely a personal choice; depending on how much of a purist you are. (How much of the intended original look you want to keep).
@@jackstiles1874 Without knowing how yellowed your velum has become, I would have to suggest that you buy one of each of the different colour LEDs that you are considering, and put them at opposite ends of the dial. This way you can determine which one you like the best.
I just used parchment paper. I've heard that some people use 2 layers, but I find that that is totally unnecessary. One layer does a good job of diffusing the light; AND it will stand up to the heat of filament lights if that is what you want to light your unit.
Gimme that original aqua-marine aged vellum color. So nice.
You got it; see my post!
I upgraded to warm-white LEDs in my Marantz 2250, and to get that hard-to-duplicate, proprietary Marantz teal color, I used a sheet of light tan colored 24 lb (or higher) paper, then sprayed both sides of it with some gloss clear-coat spray paint. After letting it cure for a few days to avoid any outgassing, I cut a strip off, and installed it behind the dial, and, VOILA; it's 1975 again!!!!!
OG for me...always.
I agree, the original (with aged vellum) looks amazing.
The bottom one looks the best and original.
Thanks for this, i have a 2230 which also had thay aqua look from yellowed paper, i swapped to new paper and warm white leds, the blue looks really good now but a little bit of a hot spot look, should i put double layers of paper, do you have any suggestions?
I have seen a couple of different variations of filament lamps.
Both were 250 millivolts and both were 1¼” long, but some had only about ½” of actual filament. These short filament lamps are sure to leave you with hotspots on your dial.
I have heard of people doubling up on the Velum, (I use standard kitchen parchment paper), but I am not sure how much that that will help.
@@KKnockk thanks, and the 2230 meter paper looks to be a pain to get out and change, havent tackled that yet.
@@JukeboxAlley It has been a while since I did this video, but I just do not remember there being any meter papers.
I think that the backs of the meters are translucent white, and the lamps shine from behind them.
@@KKnockk On the 2230 there is paper on the tuning meter, glued at the top and bottom, but it has a cutout for the connections, its just like the dial paper just a custom cut pretty much, its looks to be a real pain to change.
thank you....where is vellum found?
You can just use parchment paper. Check out your wife's cooking drawer. DO NOT USE waxed paper.
What combo is the middle ?
How do you wrestle the light panel out on the 2240? There is a lot in the way including the pulley in the center just behind the panel. Not enough room to get it past?
It has been a long time since i did this, and I can't remember if I replaced the lamps from the front (when I was changing the velum) or from the rear.
I believe that if you take the black shield off of the tuning box, and carefully release the mechanism below, it can be moved enough to allow the lamp board to be removed without having to remove the dial cord from the tuner.
I do not really recommend this method, but If you do, proceed with extreme caution.
@@KKnockk Thank you very much for the reply. There is no room to maneuver the light panel as far as I can tell. If removed from the front, will I be able to solder the 2 pin lamps?
One touch of your soldering iron on the dial string, and I am sure that you would swear so loud that I could hear it from Canada.
I usually drape a couple of layers of paper over the dial cord to help prevent that.
OR
You could try to move the box that holds the tuning mechanism back by enough to remove that lamp board.
do you only put the blue LED in if you're keeping the original velum? that wasn't clear
The blue LEDs are so bright, they overcome the yellowing velum.
I don't feel that it is important to change the velum if you are going with blue lamps.
The colour LEDs that you use is purely a personal choice; depending on how much of a purist you are.
(How much of the intended original look you want to keep).
Thanks! In your experience...Are the soft white LEDs enough to overcome the yellow? i'd rather not change the vellum and I'd like to see more blue.
@@jackstiles1874 Without knowing how yellowed your velum has become, I would have to suggest that you buy one of each of the different colour LEDs that you are considering, and put them at opposite ends of the dial.
This way you can determine which one you like the best.
Hi Thanks for this Video, very Helpful.
What Thickness Vellum is best for the diffusing of the LEDs ??
Thanks again
Graham
I just used parchment paper. I've heard that some people use 2 layers, but I find that that is totally unnecessary. One layer does a good job of diffusing the light; AND it will stand up to the heat of filament lights if that is what you want to light your unit.
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