Oh yea, fun fact: these (dusacks/tessacks) were the most used type of swords in Norway in the 1600s. The Type G have the sea-snake/dragon motive to the fittings. So if you ever wanted to know what swords the sons of Vikings end up using, well, this is it! Yea... not a look one would associate with the Scandinavians. 😅
People should look for The Tessak of Norway and look at the classification proposed there (after looking at about 500 dusack pieces in museums in Norway). It fits the Type G perfectly for the hilt. Since Landsknecht Emporium is a Hungarian company, I think they just chose a yelman for the blade rather than a clip tip (probably to fit the blade on other projects as well, like the Antonia), which indeed is more characteristic to the Hungarian styled sabres (where the curvature is the same as it transitions to the yelman at the tip, compared to the abrupt transition as in the case of the Ottoman Kilij).
You are pretty close to the truth. Dussacks with yelmans are quite rare, but they exist even with type G hilts - unfortunately we can not add pictures to this comments - but due to our exposure to a lot of sabers, we indeed modified the more typical shape of the yelman. It wasn't a conscious choice, but drafting and re-drafting the design until it felt right led us here and even our head designer Adam only realized this years after we launched the product.
@@landsknechtemporium6616 That's kinda funny to hear. It means that you need to stop Adam from overthinking, or he will improve all swords until they are all Hungarian sabres 😅. Btw, there is a late 19th century painting by Zsigmond Vajda of Erzsebet Szilagyi (the mother) taking a sword away from a child Matthias Corvinus (king of Hungary during its golden age). Do you know that sword? That's the Hungarian sabre I'm thinking about (and it looks in part like the Antonia ☺). By the end of the summer, since it was showcased so much in the last few months (and I'm thinking about it for a week now), I think I'll contact you guys for a nice sharp Karl (something like you showed on your FB a while back, maybe a few dancing skeletons on the scabbard 😇). That will also let Adam finish his projects, because I'm suspecting he is working on a new or a custom dusack (I guess I'll find out). But after that, I want to pester him about a type F dusack or a type H (the Italian shell look, maybe even with a straight blade). We'll see...
@@FiliiMartis The piece on Vajda's painting is an interesting one with the saber like curved blade, the crossguard with the sidering and the seemingly messer like grip section. Here comes the big BUT - Vajda painted this in 1890, way after any of the associated weapons (messers, tessacks, dussacks, early hungarian sabers) were in widespread use, even if different types of military sabers were occasionally used in battle by Hungarian military forces for about another 50 years (yes, even in World War II) and they remained an official sidearm for officers for a couple of more decades; mostly as badges of rank though. Historicization was over the top in the late 19th-early 20th century but most of the depictions or recreations of historical items are just that; idealized fantasy pieces born from the overexaggerated lust for the good "old times".
@@landsknechtemporium6616 I knew that the painting in question is from 1890, and I naturally viewed it as a romanised depiction (all European countries did that around that time, I just took it for granted that Hungary did the same). But you bring on a very good point that I didn't consider. I saw the depiction as being a-historical, but using historical elements (e.g. weapons). So the clothing, weapons, setting were not of the time of the characters in the painting, but they were real pieces from later centuries (but not 19th century in his case). What you are pointing out is that the sabre depicted could be historicisms pieces to start with (so 19th century idealised or fantasy pieces; which, funny enough, at this point they considered antiques as well). I think I'm seeing better what you wanted to say in a different exchange, about the problem of identifying correct messers from history and balancing that with the public perception. Yea, it may be harder than I thought. Good! If it was easy, everybody would do it, and it would be uninteresting. 😏 To end, I'll choose a glass half-full view. If that was a "fantasy" sabre similar to the heroic style of armour and weapon from the late Renaissance, man did the sword designers of those pieces had taste. Cuz these days, fantasy swords just have anime spikes all over. 😇
I stumbled across this sword last night looking on koa's website. I usually purchased budget blades in review them... And this is safely in the mid-tier but oh my god I've been drooling over it... It quickly went up in my listening of mid-tier swords I'd like to add to my collection Actually scratch that it went up and rank in general for swords I wanted in my collection
This is such a generic statement that is misleading. A Kilij has a pronounced and abrupt bend before the yelman. Ignoring that aspect is a misrepresentation of what a Kilij is. And yelman on blades can be found on other swords. Is this based on what we refer as a Hungarian sabre blade? Yes, probably yes. Were those influenced by Ottoman designs? Yes, probably yes. But you cannot ignore the steps in between that differentiate a design when it comes to swords. Otherwise, everything is some a copy of some bronze sword from some 6000 years ago.
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Oh yea, fun fact: these (dusacks/tessacks) were the most used type of swords in Norway in the 1600s. The Type G have the sea-snake/dragon motive to the fittings. So if you ever wanted to know what swords the sons of Vikings end up using, well, this is it! Yea... not a look one would associate with the Scandinavians. 😅
People should look for The Tessak of Norway and look at the classification proposed there (after looking at about 500 dusack pieces in museums in Norway). It fits the Type G perfectly for the hilt. Since Landsknecht Emporium is a Hungarian company, I think they just chose a yelman for the blade rather than a clip tip (probably to fit the blade on other projects as well, like the Antonia), which indeed is more characteristic to the Hungarian styled sabres (where the curvature is the same as it transitions to the yelman at the tip, compared to the abrupt transition as in the case of the Ottoman Kilij).
You are pretty close to the truth. Dussacks with yelmans are quite rare, but they exist even with type G hilts - unfortunately we can not add pictures to this comments - but due to our exposure to a lot of sabers, we indeed modified the more typical shape of the yelman. It wasn't a conscious choice, but drafting and re-drafting the design until it felt right led us here and even our head designer Adam only realized this years after we launched the product.
@@landsknechtemporium6616 That's kinda funny to hear. It means that you need to stop Adam from overthinking, or he will improve all swords until they are all Hungarian sabres 😅. Btw, there is a late 19th century painting by Zsigmond Vajda of Erzsebet Szilagyi (the mother) taking a sword away from a child Matthias Corvinus (king of Hungary during its golden age). Do you know that sword? That's the Hungarian sabre I'm thinking about (and it looks in part like the Antonia ☺).
By the end of the summer, since it was showcased so much in the last few months (and I'm thinking about it for a week now), I think I'll contact you guys for a nice sharp Karl (something like you showed on your FB a while back, maybe a few dancing skeletons on the scabbard 😇). That will also let Adam finish his projects, because I'm suspecting he is working on a new or a custom dusack (I guess I'll find out). But after that, I want to pester him about a type F dusack or a type H (the Italian shell look, maybe even with a straight blade). We'll see...
@@FiliiMartis The piece on Vajda's painting is an interesting one with the saber like curved blade, the crossguard with the sidering and the seemingly messer like grip section. Here comes the big BUT - Vajda painted this in 1890, way after any of the associated weapons (messers, tessacks, dussacks, early hungarian sabers) were in widespread use, even if different types of military sabers were occasionally used in battle by Hungarian military forces for about another 50 years (yes, even in World War II) and they remained an official sidearm for officers for a couple of more decades; mostly as badges of rank though.
Historicization was over the top in the late 19th-early 20th century but most of the depictions or recreations of historical items are just that; idealized fantasy pieces born from the overexaggerated lust for the good "old times".
@@landsknechtemporium6616 I knew that the painting in question is from 1890, and I naturally viewed it as a romanised depiction (all European countries did that around that time, I just took it for granted that Hungary did the same). But you bring on a very good point that I didn't consider. I saw the depiction as being a-historical, but using historical elements (e.g. weapons). So the clothing, weapons, setting were not of the time of the characters in the painting, but they were real pieces from later centuries (but not 19th century in his case). What you are pointing out is that the sabre depicted could be historicisms pieces to start with (so 19th century idealised or fantasy pieces; which, funny enough, at this point they considered antiques as well). I think I'm seeing better what you wanted to say in a different exchange, about the problem of identifying correct messers from history and balancing that with the public perception. Yea, it may be harder than I thought. Good! If it was easy, everybody would do it, and it would be uninteresting. 😏
To end, I'll choose a glass half-full view. If that was a "fantasy" sabre similar to the heroic style of armour and weapon from the late Renaissance, man did the sword designers of those pieces had taste. Cuz these days, fantasy swords just have anime spikes all over. 😇
I have the sharp and blunt version, it’s a great sword.
(It’s a thumb ring)
A scabbard is available from the manufacturer
I have one. Mine's a sharp and left-handed. Landsknech Emporium did a great job.
Glad to hear you like it :)
I stumbled across this sword last night looking on koa's website. I usually purchased budget blades in review them... And this is safely in the mid-tier but oh my god I've been drooling over it... It quickly went up in my listening of mid-tier swords I'd like to add to my collection
Actually scratch that it went up and rank in general for swords I wanted in my collection
I miss the cut testing you use to do! This sword seems like a sweet cutter, have you seen it cut?
We haven't had any tatami mats, however we just got some back in stock so regular cut testing can resume!
This would be fun if I knew how to sword fight.
this style of blade shape was an Ottoman influenced design - Kilijized
This is such a generic statement that is misleading. A Kilij has a pronounced and abrupt bend before the yelman. Ignoring that aspect is a misrepresentation of what a Kilij is. And yelman on blades can be found on other swords. Is this based on what we refer as a Hungarian sabre blade? Yes, probably yes. Were those influenced by Ottoman designs? Yes, probably yes. But you cannot ignore the steps in between that differentiate a design when it comes to swords. Otherwise, everything is some a copy of some bronze sword from some 6000 years ago.
Kilij copy.
No! Not even close.