Robbed of a Win at Formula Drift Atlanta
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
- I was feeling better than ever at Road Atlanta - and was definitely bummed about what happened. I cannot stress enough that I do not fault Field or the judges - but I do think the judging system needs to be changed for calls like this.
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You should have gotten that win against Field. I understand why you would rather drive Drift Masters instead of FD now.
Because his over seas BMW is caught up in customs he decided to run this event
@@JaredR1996the dmec e36 didnt make it into europe in time for the first round because of the collapsed bridge in baltimore
I think we all know why his car isn't in Europe and why he drove this round.. it's more of the fact that we know why he'd rather compete in DRIFT Masters competition than FD USA, because of this situation..
@@mk8rline I know. I guess I should’ve said the bridge collapse is what held it back
@@MrHiangawas about to type exactly that 🍻
I can’t wait to see Chelsea Denofa’s video dissecting the incident because you know he is not going to hold back at all
do you think there's a bias to give points to people who are doing every event over someone like adam who only shows up to a select few fd races? I can see that happening even subconsciously
@@partickstar1135that was my thought too!!
@@partickstar1135 Oh yeah, definitely. I can see it too.
@@partickstar1135they did. listen to the commentary
@@partickstar1135 I can see it but it’s so dumb but this isn’t the first time Matt field have gotten the judges on his side… should have been Adam winning right away and a bad call would be omt now the two American judges made it so obvious that the FD is directed…
"Not impactful enough to cause disruption" = 21:41. The Fact that Adam held on to the steering and saved what could have been a major crash is just as amazing as the judges "Final Verdict"
See 26:11. right after contact, adam lifts. This unweights the car and rotates. Notice he gets back in it only to prevent the spin. This is liftoff oversteer. It was entirely elective, the incident didn't almost cause a spin. Best of luck to both of em.
@james95050 watched and rewatched that exact moment you can completely see the disruption not only on his car but in his steering wheel. Your blind if you couldn't see it not only that he shows the damage on his car which was on the outside edge of the bumper not the flat edge it 100% affects the rotation and your just ignoring physics if you disagree
@21:43 he knew there was slight contact. He just clutched in, and quit. That’s weakling you ask me, but I’m also not into drifting really (so idk the exact rules of this). In my view the contact couldn’t have been more slight, and had Adam known that field messed up his chase I bet he would’ve finished the run. Drifting is motorsports figure skating, and figure skaters touch each other when doing their doubles…
Was a classic FD weekend where Matt Field is crashing people into people to get himself wins, Forsberg is brake checking the chase driver, and the Judges blowing calls.
Truer words have not been spoken. Don't forget the fuckery they pulled on RCP.
Forsberg also had to shut down cause his car was breaking up
FD is a joke and gets worse every year. They are down 10k in viewers during live streams than last year. If they don’t do anything, FD will die off.
The calls aren't blown they're just rigged. Got real obvious a few years ago when Aasbo would have the most mediocre run and still get all 3 votes
Its as rigged as it can be without them making it obvious.
*I don't follow professional drifting, but I've watched enough to have learned the rules and it's clear the judges decided "LZ only here for one race, Matt is racing for a championship, give him the win"*
100% this
My thought exactly
@@elmeesio They literally said it lol
The amount of times the referred to Matt as a ”championship contender”. I knew no matter what Adam would do it wouldn’t be enough
"...And Adam was not intended to be here" tells us all we need to know lmao
I love the new rules where youre allowed to just beeline the car straight and cut the corner just to catch up and and you can still win the battle. Everybody wins a trophy!
Exactly bro straight bullsh1t. Judges were trash and this wasn't the only fck up of the event either. Adam got robbed clear as day
pausing to say - mike editing the in car footage in right after Jared says "adam makes a mistake" is 900iq lol
Yooo lol I had to go back and rewatch. That is classic. Then goes back to the live clip.
The slow mo outro too, so good
Field straightened twice in his chase and that was before he even hit you. What a crazy call… but you said it perfectly.
Apparently you can drive in a straight line for 2 whole seconds in a drift competition. Isn't FD great? 😅
that was what i seen too
@@eyedeekay143 they changed the rules this season, you can straighten. it makes no sense. actual clowns of drifting at this point.
@@eyedeekay143do u know how other drifting competitions work?
@@lightofscorpio9396 now we see why Chelsea left
Collette can't hide how pissed she was in the trailer
Man… I was about to say the same thing.. She’s pissed. Bs call by the judges. Don’t worry, everyone is calling it bs brother.
I vote we lock the judges in a room with her and let her “explain” how she felt about it
U ca just tell she wanted to go to the war for Adam lol. She a real one
She's super competitive and that's awesome
Shes a pro driver too so knows what is good and bad driving too so probably fuming
On a positive note- man. You look mad comfortable in that E36 its crazy
your explanation on the live stream was well worded, especially since you would have still been very emotional, handled perfectly, and offered a solution in the end, great job, lots of respect
hard agree!
You can clearly see LZ's rear "catch" as he initiates the transition, causing the late flick. This is supported by the in car footage. The announcer keeps emphasizing that LZ isn't supposed to be there and is messing up the points battle. 100% political.
FACTS!!!
Adam, we welcome you to Europe where (hopefully) this shit doesn't happen.
The fact that they got rid of protesting says enough. FD is dying.
Facts 💯
I’m pretty sure they got rid of protests because of that idiot that protested Chelsea last year for his hood oin and the shit show that turned into it really needed to go honestly
Major facts
Conor first round now you bets on who's next round
There like this dude thinks he can pop into the fd and then head off to Europe for the rest of the season, so they were never gunna be kind to ya,
Wow that sucks. I'm very grateful that you handled this as you did. You're setting the kind of example we need
Looks like Adams confidence is growing. Driving getting better and better. Come along way last few years. Keep it up mate. 🤙
The commentator calling you a spoiler is enough to never take this series seriously ever again.
Agreed. But I also don’t like how people can just show up for an event or two, like Adam and Vaughn. But yea, just him the commentator saying what he said makes it just that much worse and proves the point exactly.
@@jasonbrown31485 why? in DMEC you have the "wild cars" i think is called, and it's so good. If a driver that runs the whole session gets eliminated they should of have done better. I don't see the problem.
@@jasonbrown31485a lot of people show up, some make the show, some don't. It's America, of you got the money, you got the right to do whatever you want
@@jasonbrown31485yeah I’m not a fan of people attending for only 1 or 2 events either. But as long as it’s allowed by FD they shouldn’t let it influence any decisions.
@@bfife22 agreed
I was at the event and you 100% got robbed. My jaw was dropped to the floor when they announced Field got the win. Dude straightened and had a shit line. Bring back protests
Insane the blame the lead driver at all. That shit was clear as day
Bro I have no idea how you kept your cool for the interview and said it all perfectly. That was as classy as it gets man, props to you. Should gain you even more fans and maybe FD will consider ending their unfair treatment of you at every single event.
Bro the outro still gets me every time please please never change the song
Your just out running your own lead run and Field is chowing daisies and rocks, straightens, doesn’t stop, then runs into you twice. Then wins the battle somehow
Favouritism is a thing my friend Adam never has it lucky in these events lowest seed and allways gets done dirty somehow
Man how crazy is thatttt
Big ups to Robbie Nishida my man (JPN)
The only one with OMT
Its so crazy to hear
" AdamLZ wasn't inteded to be here
But now here we are
We seen AdamLZ disrupting "
Matt 100% straightened
Yup, Field was out the moment he straightened so shouldn't even have been trying to get back on chase. Absolutely terrible call by the judges to give him the win after considering he was out, decides to continue and impedes the lead driver.
I think they take exception to drivers who aren't competing full season. Bad calls at Long beach with Connor vs Tuerk where they re-ran it for some strange reason. Hate the judging at FD.
"bro dude bro i don't think the contact was enough bro dude"
Thanks for the technical breakdown. What an absolute clown fiesta of a call that was. Makes me think there is some corruption going on.
*looses his bumper* - " I don't think the contact was enough" 😂
Matt's response as well 'I don't know what happened to his car to not make the transition'. Ofc dude you just hit him. All I see is corruption there. Judges hiding something
@@izzacdagoon Calling people dumb while talking about something entirely different to what they were talking about is crazy
America + Sport = Corruption
Meh if LZ won on a bad call you would be defending him, that’s how it goes, y’all just some fanboys
Absolutely love your explanation and yes they need a way to judge the level of impact somehow and your options sound really good
So much respect for you and how calm and composed you were during everything.. these calls were AWFUL, hope they sort something out before Orlando. Regardless of the terrible calls, you look great in the e36 and were killing it!!!! Keep up the incredible driving! #justiceforLZ
You can tell from the in-cabin camera (starting at 21:42) that Field collided and forced Adam into an unsalvageable over-rotation. The judge's call was absolute highway robbery and the refusal to entertain a review or a challenge is a blight on FD.
It's funny because even the announcers were confused as to how Adam didn't get the win
For sure, they should have at the very least given them a OMT on the spot. it was blatant in the replay
Although i agree with your view, at the best of times they can be biased asf @Bmxchrome
Exactly what I was thinking. In car footage makes it clear as day the impact disrupted to cars self steer changing the lead path. Had judges seen that footage would’ve been a different call
Adam, you handled that interview as a gentleman. Much respect, sir!
I must say, the evolution of your drifting career, is exciting.... I was very excited when this battle against Matt Field started, because shit!, that Beemer looked good and probably felt good too. I watched the entire round and the judges made shitty calls throughout the evening and I definitely felt that there was favouritism, however... Please don't stop or let this get to you. Make us proud like you always have been. From a proud supporter!🙌
Totally agree with you Adam, they had some weird calls this event with collisions. If this continues I feel it will only encourage the chase drivers to hit the lead cars. I get that taps are expected in drifting, but when a car is in transition it is very hard to predict what effects a collision can have on the car. I just cant see how they could have ruled in favor of Matt with the glaring mistakes he had in the chase.
Happy you got some good testing for orlando though, you seem happy and comfortable with the car. An impressive feat for running your own program again. Don't let this get you down, you had a very impressive showing for the cars new "big power" setup. So excited to see how you do in Driftmasters. Chin up and find a way to make the change you want to see to prevent this from happening to others.
Definitely makes sense why you'd rather do Drift Masters over fd
100% should have gotten the win. Matt had already zeroed, so his car shouldn’t have even been in play after that, and even the slightest hit from him after should have been deemed him at fault.
Sucks that they wouldn’t let you protest.
The footage is clear that it disrupted the transition and self steer.
Great job and keeping composed in the interview and respectful with everything.
this season they allow straightening (which is dumb yes and just makes the event sloppy af. idk how they thought a sloppier tandem would be better for viewers or the drivers)
Had an awesome weekend and it was nice to meet you! Hope to see you next year!
ahhhhh seeing Adam still so happy is so awesome to see, perfect reaction and it was genuine
the way you handled the interview was very classy, good shit.
Totally agree, tbh honest it reminded me of how Lewis Hamilton handled being a robbed of the F1 championship a few years ago…pure professionalism
Lz is going to explode someday, he maintains the composure like a boss.
He can do that off camera
Waiting for his Denofa moment 😂
“And respectfully, I don’t think that the judges are in a place to determine what type of impact affects the lead driver or not.”
That line right there! Pro drifting is happening on a knife’s edge. A cup full of sand can impact a driver, or a puddle, or HAVING A BUMPER RIPPED OFF YOUR CAR… please fix this FD. Impact should require fault be assigned. Anything immediately after impact is the fault of the faulted, period.
Great driving Adam, sorry to you and your team, we’re all absolutely gutted for you. Was easily a podium caliber weapon you brought to the fight!
you handled that better than most would, props for being respectful when you didn’t need to be
I think your interview was immaculate! That was so well put! If the judges weren’t willing to admit their mistakes then I’m extremely disappointed with them, and it says a lot about their character. The fact that the one judge didn’t even want to put the headset on says a lot too.. kinda sus
Who the one in the middle? Thats Robbie Nishida and he voted OMT.
Robbie was neutral, voted OMT. Didn’t want nothing to do with the other 2 judge’s favouritism
That was unbelievable same thing with Romecp “he didn’t got hit hard enough” like what.??? Yesterday was a shit show
I totally agree, Adam covered it from 33:45 with solutions.. totally agree with you 💯
Even minowa vs jones was a stupid call imo jones caused a debead that made minowa unable to follow a good line in his lead and then he did an ok chase but no OMT jones got it....
@DaeveMc that was the one I was trying to think of but for some reason I was thinking it was Johnathon Castro but I wasn't sure so didn't say anything..
@DaeveMc I have to add the commentators didn't help that situation either
@@MrHiangathe commentators were so bad, they didn’t know their shit, and what’s worse is that the have to side with the judges call no matter what. Commentators are the first thing that misleads the viewers, and Jarod calling Vaughn a flop is really a new low for the sport
Adam, your interview response with Lauretta after the battle was amazing. Shitty situation, for both the drivers and the fans. We’re all tired of the bad calls, and removing the option to protest makes it even worse now. It’s been great to see you mature and keep composed even while being super frustrated at the outcome. Wishing you the best, dude. 🤙🏼
Wasn't an LZ fan before this video, but I feel differently after for sure. Way to handle yourself after what was an obvious robbery. Keep killing it.
Adam's chase was really good I'm surprised even the commentators were being so critical
BIG FACTS 💯
My favorite is Adam on Fields Door, then them saying he could have done better.... Then the fact the neither one of them was able to realize that if you put pressure on a swinging object going one way it gets rubber banded in the other direction!!!!! I turned it off and finished watching Drift Masters! Rather have my views and money going to a good group of guys!
To bring a positive out of all of this, I just gotta mention how respectful and professional Ginge is. All I had to say
Good job stayin frosty and maintaining your class. Proud of ya. I would have likely flown off the handle and said or done something I'd regret. That decision is pretty insane.
This year I finally got to meet Adam at Atlanta bro was cool ash hopefully see him next year judges were on some BS love the vids man keep it up💪🏽
The biggest Robbery of FD ATL saying Adam wasn’t hit hard enough is the dumbest call. Second to last inner clip field looked to be a bit far off from it. Also on the chase field straighten for 4-5 seconds just to catch up
The call against Rome was up there. Judging shit show
@@Pointless-fishing-adventures Rome got punted off the track which was crazy
even if the call was bad what really pissed me off was that they'd spend 10 minutes looking at runs at long beach to make a call just to call a OMT then all of a sudden FD ATL they're making "confident" calls within 30 seconds.. dafuq!?!? i get they were told to speed up the judgements on runs but find a middle ground, don't just immediately go from one extreme to the other. sucks because i was really enjoying the changes they made for this season but ATL was just straight up dumb.
I agree that giving the win to Field was the wrong call, but Rome got hit once on the rear and then immediately hit again in the front sending him straight off the first turn. The judges said the same about that incident too. If the chase driver can just throw the lead driver off track and get the win the rules and judging are flawed, seriously flawed.
The moment field sees his win slipping he drives into people 😂
Then some how gets a win out of it. wild.
@@YungAntoine scripted
When you 0 a chase, you bump the lead to make them 0 also... winner winner.
Even practice! 😂
Only Matt wins practice.
I love the outro clip. Showing us the perfect angle of field driving straight into your rear bumper.... you will bounce back though, Adam. You are a talented driver and a demon behind the wheel of that E36. 😈
Straight line, HARD pull and then ram the lead and rip a rear bumper off?? Yes indeed, I do declare you the winner!! What a scam!!
Formula drift will never move forward with the most inconsistent and terrible judging in every seen
Fd and ufc have something in common....
That was nuts. The judges couldn't see through the smoke I guess!! Even though you could see the wing bend and the bumper blow off!!
bro what?....NO lol....the judges have like 15 different camera angles, so if i can see through the smoke and see how long that cc6 is and how deep it is PLUS Adams bumper flying off...then those guys can too!!! Also they should see the contact from Adams and the other guys car reacting to a hit, especially considering theyre all drifters themselves
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 im pretty sure the OP is being facetious.. as in, of course they could see through the smoke because everyone could.
Adam, you're such a class act! Saying what you said in the interview was incredible! Now what Matt said seemed a little deceitful. Saying he wasn't sure..... He for sure knew he racked your bumper. 🙏
Very professional and well spoken, respect.
That fact that a judge thought it should be a one more time is insane!
honestly, still a better call than giving field the win
I think he did that to make the other judges not look even dumber then they already where
Was pretty frustrating but it was still awesome seeing how well the E36 drifted.
bro you were a monster all weekend. great driving bro. keep your head up.
Just pumped to see you in a better system at DMEC
Crazy to see how much more comfortable and confident you are in the e36
Respect you a lot for that preface during your interview. True sportsmanship and setting an amazing example. Very impressive from you!
man Colette looks pissed! You were doing awesome man, I hope to see you in Atlanta next year
Couldn't have worded or dealt with it any better, class act.
It’s Matt (FD favourite) Field, always the same with him. The judges have their favourites like field and Odi, and it showed last night big time. The crash with Rome was a shocker that even after Odi hit him twice and the second being on his back wheel and they said he could have and should have kept drifting is just a shocking statement. It’s a joke because they could have reviewed like they over turned the Connor and Ryan result in long beach.
And that was after Odi’s questionable win over Sorensen for the very same thing be he later did to Rome
@@ChuckThree well said sir.. very bad weekend for FD
Higa did the same to Rome, and Higa lose, them Odi does, and he won.
Just focus on drift masters at this point
Firm handshakes for how you handled that interview and the situation in general.
At the end of the day, the days over. What an epic car and on this track aswell keen for the next video. Maybe more rally content?? 😮
It is soo sick to see how much you improved at drifting. The driving in this video is incredible. Glad you found what makes you happy and that you get to do it for a living. Keep killing it brother.
Watched live thought you had that one in the bag for sure!!!!!!!! Robbed is an understatement
The battle right after had the same exact issue too.
But no reason to stop, could have clutch kicked and reinitiate the drift and win. Adam error on this one to not try to end the run. From the judge perspective, it looked like a technical issue like in Long Beach.
@22Epic he was full lock when you say he should have been able to clutch kick it. Going downhill and with momentum he would have spun. Either way it's Matt's fault
22 epic is just a sped and has no idea what hes talking abt just wants to run his mouth@@eyedeekay143
I totally agree with you LZ, so much respect the way you and your team handled yourselves mad respect man 👊
Damn, I don’t ever comment on your stuff bud, but that pedal cam showed it clear as day for my eyes. Definitely disagree with the call, you should have been awarded the win, if not a OMT @ the least.
You have progressed so much as a Person/ Driver Adam. Very proud of ya brother! Keep on pushin.
When this happend Formula Drift died for me. Bad job by the judges. You did great!
Even the announcers knew that was weird and said Field “hung” you. Which is crazy because most of the time the announcers have no clue wtf they’re talking about.
Note - To further this, this is why I like Driftmasters camera equipment more, slo-mo cameras everywhere on track, in car live video feeds for the judges to see what the drivers are doing. Quite clear how that hit on Adam left the wheel to get caught mid transition, causing him not to be able to transition.
Differences between redbull doing the streaming and a small series like Fd doing it. Haha
@@nicoking_ redbull tv does multiple action sports. FD is tiny compared to redbull
You can see he hit his front tire at the end which completely stopped him from continuing with his line so Matt should have been at fault for hindering the drift line
I hope so much to see you in Riga.
It’s have been my dream to see you in person.
Keep cooking with E36-s.
Your interview was perfect. Well handled. Totally agree with these facts you spit
"I don't hate the players, I hate the game"; same Adam, same. FD Atlanta was a shit show of a game. Such a weird event, couple close calls and a couple robberies. The consistency is the problem.
Adam is too kind. 99% of people would be livid with how bad that judge call was. No wonder more and more pro level drivers are leaving FD and going to Drift Masters. If I were Adam I would pull out of Orlando and all other FD events. Absolutely joke of a series lately. You can even tell by watching the judges that they can barely see what's going on. They have tiny tablets in full direct sunlight. How can they even make calls? Their commentary on it after the fact is all you need to hear about how bad the judging system (and honestly these bogus judges). "I don't think the contact was enough to disrupt." Where do they find these judges? What's their seat time? Have they been in a situation identical to what happened here? Wild BS from Formula D. Matt's chase run was absolute garbage and he was playing catch up the whole time until he rear ended LZ. Like how can you say their chase runs were similar??!?!
Fucking delusional judges. I really want to know what they’re smoking
Matt even turned opposite to the angle of his drift going into OZ3, which is a zero. Worst case this was a double zero. The irony of the "didn't hit him hard enough" calls made repeatedly is that those rules seem to have come after MF himself took a flop SO MANY times they had to change the rules.
Saw the discontent i joined just after their run and was like ooooo you're right i think moderators were scared 😂
I’ve not followed drifting since the very first FD in Atlanta, but I have enjoyed following your channel Adam. I was pumped to cheer you on at the track this weekend and it’s a crying shame that you were robbed.
The more I saw of FD and the inner workings, the more distaste I have for it. I’d love to see a more attainable, genuine feeling series grow in the US.
Also, well handled on the stream Adam.
Adam you are an amazing drifter. Well done
Thank you so much for posting when you did... I almost started studying for my ap calc exam
I really hope you book all your events next year the same times as FD. RIP Formula Drift.
Agree with you Adam, Even if the chaser car only touches slightly from the back or side when drifting or switching, they should calculate a safe distance or be very close but not touch. It is true that the judges do a very difficult job, but it is very unfortunate that judging at this very prestigious international drifting event, when there are cases that look "strange and doubtful" the racers are not given the opportunity for OMT, if this opportunity is used it will result in different race results. can satisfy all parties. Proud of you dude.. keep the spirit. 🔥🔥🔥
you are drifting better than ever in the bmw keep it up that sim rig your using must be helping as well
You were killing it! The amount of poor calls was so infuriating. You got screwed, rome got seriously screwed. Its sad that with all the available views, tech, and experience, the judges still cant seem to make correct calls in these situations. Cant wait to see you slay orlando!
Been waiting for u to post .
Love the content and I wish I good luck on the next round 💯🤜🏽🤛🏽
That end slow mo clip is a real eye opener as to what that would have done to your lap.
Aye you did what you thought was best and I don’t see nothing else that could have been done he clearly tapped you and you showed us. You are Helluva driver and it was a helluva good lead and chase Adam, but yeah we know the judging was poor I’m just ready to see where you go forth from this point.🤘🏾 stay up stay real🫡
must say, if there's anything really positively standing out here it is your response to the presenter about what happened. concise, professional and giving every piece of important information. "i dont hate the players, i hate the game" was the perfect way to sum it up. and fwiw, yeah you should've had that
Man your driving is reaaally good, watching your evolution from all your chassis you for sure found a home with this one, looking forward to seeing you drive Drift Master this season..
Adam I was sooo bummed looking at FD live over RUclips and you did a Killer follow to start with making me soooo Hyped ! And then..... Yeah we all know 😢
Hey Adam ..the onboard footage tells a drift story that will go untold forever ... petition for onboard replays in FD
I actually was actually fuming myself when I watched this live, respectfully to the judges as I know it’s a hard job, but that was madness! you handled it like a true professional and this is why I love following your career! Well done Adam and Blow their doors off next time!
Hahah Adam on that interview was great! Mature way to make your point!!
I really felt that comment about don't hate the players hate the game a subtle dig at FD. Head up Adam as Mad Mike says its a judged sport and it doesn't always go the way it should. thats why when he made his comp in NZ he got sensors and stuff for that. Love the video mike and the crew killed it.
I’m a field fan but I do agree with you. That should’ve been in your favor. The last clip really shows you
That should’ve been your win can’t lie .
I've only been watching FD for about 3 years now but it's insane how year after year judging has been either inconsistent straight up worse and rule changes have been made worse and worse every year
I’m trying real hard to like the sport but without empirical evidence showing what the cars are physically doing (like sensors or thermal imaging for the smoke) it’s basically figure skating with cars.
@@ianj8505Hah, I think even figure skating has more rigorous and objective evaluation criteria
@@ianj8505 drift masters does it really well the hardly have any missed/bad calls and they don't use any of that you don't need thermal imaging when a normal camera shows exactly where Adam was hit and can show the physical damage done by the other car
I love watching because you grow and you gorw with you team.! i love it.! A boss benefits others not himself!.
The silver lining is the character you AND your team showed afterward 🤘
That run at 17:50 is absolutely artistic. You drive this car so well Adam.
I watched it over and over at the time on the FD stream and it seemed pretty clear when looking through the smoke that the bumper was hooked by the chase driver causing LZ to straighten. The judges and announcers said LZ straightened on his own. Felt like they didn't give it a close enough review.
Great job though Adam and the team !
Bummed not to see you here in Spain! Maybe you can compete without politics here in Europe! Man it´s a pleasure to see you driving confidently with a car you know well