as someone who watch ALL of team secret's game, i can say that they are not usually this disciplined . this feels like a whole new team. Props to coach warbirds
The discipline was the first thing i noticed as well such a great improvement for them. Next stop will be NAVI (Masters 2 champion FPX with Cned) and that's going to be the real challenge for them. Hope they pull off again another upset.
Yea man. Its just feels like PRX has lost their magic now after masters copenhagen and bind removed. And whats even more annoying They dont even try to hire new analyst or coach despite the finance given to franchising teams. Just hope they get back on their feet asap before korea and tokyo
TL probably got tilted at the end of those rounds. They didn't imagine themselves losing to a "C tier" team. They thought they will have an easy game and TS punished that misguided notion. Underestimating any team will only bite you in the *ss.
Man, I am infinitely grateful for the dedication and hard work you do as a Valorant Content Creator. Your videos are insightful, your watch party is amazing, and your comments and quips when watching the matches are great. All the best and success for you this year fam. I hope we can see more of you in future tourneys and matches.
I think that not watching main at 10:25 is not as big of a mistake because they heard raze blast in, fade prowler, breach ult, saw enemies stimmed by brim, and cypher got picked by the time they were turning around together
Bro I swear TS has improved soooooooooo much I am a bit of a their fan and will say they played extremely well here and they played a lot more disciplined than they mostly have but gotta say they are in with a shot to win
HAHA I absolutely love the F1 reference!! I'm not usually this hyped when it comes to F1 references but I did NOT expect that from you TMV I'm totally HYPED
Actually I'm a very big liquid fan and I'm so sad that they got eliminated yesterday. I hope that the team stays the same, and that they will come back stronger.
sure liquid will come back stronger. maybe tweak a bit on the roster. So sad for Nats exiting early. Im a TS and Nats fan. Yesterday's game was a bit of a dilemma for me who to support.
Same, but them coming back stronger is pretty much a guarantee so you dont have to hope. I mean their performance was abysmally so it can’t get worse. I think they were the worst emea team at the event
i feel like having proclaimed "Worlds best lurker" on ur team is kinda a downside of nAts, the other team will just keep someone on the opposite site until the entire team is ready to retake site cuz they know nAts will be lurking somewhere
This series, nAts didn't really lurk. Sayf was the one lurking, particularly in Icebox. He was part of entry; maybe they did it to "surprise" TS. But, it showed that TL didn't prepare much for them have setups for nAts to lurk.
What's funny is, the few times nats did lurk during this series it worked out great for him. Sayf was unfortunately main lurk on like 90% of the rounds. Weird call.
im a TS fan. I was already happy for TS getting 1 map from Team Liquid even if TL won the series. Navi is a different monster tho. All members either are major winners or champions. I'll be happy for TS even if they lose 0-2 to Navi but put up a good fight. Maybe 13-11 game 1 and and overtime game 2.
one question: isnt it an oppertunity for jammpi and soulcas to push site through the smoke, as Team Secret breach ults, cuz they know team secret is probably gonna push ct, so they have favorable fight onsite, could be wrong but thats what i thought
I dont think they "know" theyre gonna push spawn. They have no info on site (unlike us with spectator mode) and they might just be ulting ct and playing site(which happens usually). And by the time that they see TS pushing ct, its already too late to do what you said. but if they knew there was only 1 on site they probably wouldve pushed like you said
Jamppi can't play any agent for shit when he doesn't have an op and tp to escape like a rat...the only thing the dood knows is just pray people walk into his crosshair and he gets lucky
nah that isnt the main reason why they performed really well. TS back then is quite unrefined and lack fundamentals. This new TS change A LOT. Probably because of their new coach, if yes then man what a good pickup! Secret vs Navi going to be a scary match for us TS fans since the roster is the previous Master winners (replaced by cNed) and they are looking fine as hell. If somehow they win against them, that is going to be a big achievement and possibly the biggest upset this year yet
I like how to prove your point further how baffling the start of r19 was after Borkum gets the kill on Jampi he's almost certain someone is gonna try and trade him from B main and quickly starts to hold it, not knowing that TL had 0 plan for Jampi's retreat.
Both teams are looking insane right now. If either team gets a 2-0 on the other, then I'd say it's safe to assume the team who wins makes it to the grand final to play against Loud.
Yeee the things you mention are just a part of the problem unfortunetely :/ And also - Sage on Icebox is always like that :D you put anyone else here, here purpouse is just to plant the spike and die. And as I 100% agree Sayf should play main duelist, i'm not sure if Jamppi as initiator is a good idea.
@@mateuszradwanski2410 jamppi was great as sova on breeze and played also many Times breach, skye and Omen. All of them looked better than his jett unfortunally. But i think Liquid will Figure their problems Out and going to win a Tournament this year
Team liquid is such a waste of talent. Theyre some of the most mechanically skilled players and yet they dont seem to have any strats or discipline. It's like theyve never played together or theyre playing ranked.
Navi have better individual players, I would say Navi has the advantage but man anything could go wrong because how disciplined and calm TS players are.
Liquid looked like one of the strongest teams coming in, nAts is obviously insane, Jamppi is probably one of the most underrated oppers, Sayf is one of Guild's stars, Redgar finally brings an IGL to the Liquid fans, and soulcas despite getting a lot of shit has been really solid during LCQ and Champs. Really surprising that one of the less known pacific teams destroyed them
@@billjohnsubillaga2408 Let's be honest here TS isnt as popular as you thought. Pretty sure Bleed and 1 or 2 indonesians team are more popular. Although TS have better credentials comparing with the rest of APAC excluding the 2 big brothers.
as someone who watch ALL of team secret's game, i can say that they are not usually this disciplined . this feels like a whole new team. Props to coach warbirds
Absolutelly, either the coach or the new players did wonders to this team
team secret is gonna have a great year
@@ninjasaurio6611 probably combination of both
The discipline was the first thing i noticed as well such a great improvement for them. Next stop will be NAVI (Masters 2 champion FPX with Cned) and that's going to be the real challenge for them. Hope they pull off again another upset.
yeah, I've been watching them since BREN days and their discipline is the first thing I noticed.
As a PRX and nAts fan this tournament is just way too sad to watch. But Team Secret played just so much better I can't even be too mad
Bro ikr
Yea man. Its just feels like PRX has lost their magic now after masters copenhagen and bind removed. And whats even more annoying They dont even try to hire new analyst or coach despite the finance given to franchising teams. Just hope they get back on their feet asap before korea and tokyo
TL probably got tilted at the end of those rounds. They didn't imagine themselves losing to a "C tier" team. They thought they will have an easy game and TS punished that misguided notion.
Underestimating any team will only bite you in the *ss.
Man, I am infinitely grateful for the dedication and hard work you do as a Valorant Content Creator. Your videos are insightful, your watch party is amazing, and your comments and quips when watching the matches are great. All the best and success for you this year fam. I hope we can see more of you in future tourneys and matches.
TMV, appreciate the new time stamps.
I think that not watching main at 10:25 is not as big of a mistake because they heard raze blast in, fade prowler, breach ult, saw enemies stimmed by brim, and cypher got picked by the time they were turning around together
Bro I swear TS has improved soooooooooo much I am a bit of a their fan and will say they played extremely well here and they played a lot more disciplined than they mostly have but gotta say they are in with a shot to win
INVY IS GOATED. Invy actually destroyed team secret before dropping 30 on breach on haven.
invy played aginst team secret? what was his former team?
@@BxJct0 oasis gaming
@@BxJct0 ruclips.net/video/Gw1bIHOQlck/видео.html map 2
@@BxJct0 Invy is also rank 2 radiant in Asia servers constantly.
HAHA I absolutely love the F1 reference!! I'm not usually this hyped when it comes to F1 references but I did NOT expect that from you TMV I'm totally HYPED
Love how the last timestamp just says “Go home”
1st ever flick with a stun
Actually I'm a very big liquid fan and I'm so sad that they got eliminated yesterday. I hope that the team stays the same, and that they will come back stronger.
This was embarrassing from liquid, but this roster has far to much potential to break up after only one game.
sure liquid will come back stronger. maybe tweak a bit on the roster. So sad for Nats exiting early. Im a TS and Nats fan. Yesterday's game was a bit of a dilemma for me who to support.
@@zensawa271 yo mean nats exiting from the tournament, not from the team right?
@@anonymusrymus118 yep i meant the tournament. Nats should not be replaced in TL imo.
Same, but them coming back stronger is pretty much a guarantee so you dont have to hope. I mean their performance was abysmally so it can’t get worse. I think they were the worst emea team at the event
i feel like having proclaimed "Worlds best lurker" on ur team is kinda a downside of nAts, the other team will just keep someone on the opposite site until the entire team is ready to retake site cuz they know nAts will be lurking somewhere
This series, nAts didn't really lurk. Sayf was the one lurking, particularly in Icebox. He was part of entry; maybe they did it to "surprise" TS. But, it showed that TL didn't prepare much for them have setups for nAts to lurk.
What's funny is, the few times nats did lurk during this series it worked out great for him. Sayf was unfortunately main lurk on like 90% of the rounds. Weird call.
@@mckinleyostvig7135 I think Nats got thrown off by Dubstep constantly catching him on the Lurk.
I like the timestamps, great video as always, like the hero ball phrase looool
team secret probably wont win against navi but they do look so good
im a TS fan. I was already happy for TS getting 1 map from Team Liquid even if TL won the series. Navi is a different monster tho. All members either are major winners or champions. I'll be happy for TS even if they lose 0-2 to Navi but put up a good fight. Maybe 13-11 game 1 and and overtime game 2.
@@zensawa271 i agree! i’m a ts fan as well. i just see navi being THE team to beat. and as good as ts looks atm, navi’s just on a different level
team 1 minute
And this guy put team secret on D tier on his vct tier list💀
Love your vids man!
Those internet cafe hours paid off for Team Secret.
one question: isnt it an oppertunity for jammpi and soulcas to push site through the smoke, as Team Secret breach ults, cuz they know team secret is probably gonna push ct, so they have favorable fight onsite, could be wrong but thats what i thought
I dont think they "know" theyre gonna push spawn. They have no info on site (unlike us with spectator mode) and they might just be ulting ct and playing site(which happens usually). And by the time that they see TS pushing ct, its already too late to do what you said. but if they knew there was only 1 on site they probably wouldve pushed like you said
they have no info. their only option was push spawn side or they can hero play other sides
They don't know that at the time
love the f1 reference
Soulcas and redgar have declined greatly tbh. Liquid need an igl who can keep a leash on jaaampi.
Jamppi getting stuck underneath B is just so stupid. If you were *trying* to die for no value, you'd have a hard time finding a better play.
Jamppi can't play any agent for shit when he doesn't have an op and tp to escape like a rat...the only thing the dood knows is just pray people walk into his crosshair and he gets lucky
Did i hear Max verstappen?? 👀
Nahh.Fernado is faster than you.
„Ouh thats good stuff“ how it hits when u watch good valo and not jail valo
neverforgetti
LAKAD MATATAG
TONDO GAMING :)
Normalin Normalin
ADOBO BUFF
🅱️INOY 🅱️RIDE
TS: *HA HA HA Stayin ' Alive*
Team Liquid just weren't solid enough
We all know why ts really won. Because of jessies smite phantom ofc
people are trying hard to ignore the fact that Soulcas is really bad as a pro player
Notice how he said Max Verstappen and not Fraudmilton
Please not here. 🤢
dupstep borkum jessievash together since 2020 during Bren Esport days so that helps
nah that isnt the main reason why they performed really well. TS back then is quite unrefined and lack fundamentals. This new TS change A LOT. Probably because of their new coach, if yes then man what a good pickup!
Secret vs Navi going to be a scary match for us TS fans since the roster is the previous Master winners (replaced by cNed) and they are looking fine as hell. If somehow they win against them, that is going to be a big achievement and possibly the biggest upset this year yet
it felt like liquid were playing ranked and ts actually had prepared strats to counter the really simple things that liquid were trying to do
💯,Team liquid didn't come prepared,everyone was doing their own thing
@@sachinacharya2681 i think they were prepared but they clearly have fundamentally different views on the game
redgar had visa issues (again) so they had less practice time. also soulcas is a bot.
Day 1 of asking TMV for a Vod channel like Sliggy.
I agree, TMV's vods are too valuable to be lost to time.
I would love to see his old talk and analysis on games and his reactions
Maybe when I get better internet, which hopefully I will in a couple months!
@@ThinkingMansValorant
me living in the uk, knowing that smooth internet is never guaranteed:
@@ThinkingMansValorant i’m gonna start to miss the Fs
Warbird: Alright boy, all you had to do was follow the plan.
TS boys: *HA HA HA STAY ALIIIIIIIVEEEEEEEEEEEE!*
I like how to prove your point further how baffling the start of r19 was after Borkum gets the kill on Jampi he's almost certain someone is gonna try and trade him from B main and quickly starts to hold it, not knowing that TL had 0 plan for Jampi's retreat.
Team botquid spam where ya at
right here, team botquid
Fak takuuuuu 🛐🙏
@@kilba7695 ayo prohoessor
60sec in and the Max Verstappen metaphor just made me respect you so much more 😂
nAts carrying the game
Liquid: wtf, you're playing at a high level🤨? Banned.
Imagine team secret win against navi
That's the real challenge right now for them. I hope they pull off another upset again.
tbh Navi also looks strong from their match Im excited to see what happens
Both teams are looking insane right now. If either team gets a 2-0 on the other, then I'd say it's safe to assume the team who wins makes it to the grand final to play against Loud.
Lev is better than TS
@@solaris218fr who ever win in that series will meet drx in the finals
this genuinley looked like a ranked game in my plat lobbies
After watching this match, I can only say I'm a nAts fan but I'm definitely not a Liquid fan.
liquid made two mistakes:
jamppi should play initiator and sayf main duellist and
put soulcas never on sage again. thank you
Does that even matter? When their fundamentals are that bad?
they just looked unprepared, doesn't matter who is playing what if you're not working as a team
the first comment is right. They have good players but bad fundamentals is 100% Lose in an actual Squad vs Squad match
Yeee the things you mention are just a part of the problem unfortunetely :/ And also - Sage on Icebox is always like that :D you put anyone else here, here purpouse is just to plant the spike and die. And as I 100% agree Sayf should play main duelist, i'm not sure if Jamppi as initiator is a good idea.
@@mateuszradwanski2410 jamppi was great as sova on breeze and played also many Times breach, skye and Omen. All of them looked better than his jett unfortunally.
But i think Liquid will Figure their problems Out and going to win a Tournament this year
Thank you for the timestamps Mr TMV!
Team liquid is such a waste of talent. Theyre some of the most mechanically skilled players and yet they dont seem to have any strats or discipline. It's like theyve never played together or theyre playing ranked.
idk why but Liquid never been a good team LOL
Dude spilled the beans
dude every team i support is being eliminated, i should now support for sentinel
👁️👄👁️
Bro...
oh man...
Yoooo????
there goes my pickems
Wasn't expecting the F1 reference.
Major upset as any team beat team liquid
You should coach a team
props to jessie.. man still playing like his 20s
Yeah timesptamps!
Navi definitely gonna prepare for the worst now
Navi have better individual players, I would say Navi has the advantage but man anything could go wrong because how disciplined and calm TS players are.
@@ViperDivinity navi heavy prep team btw
@@nilakshachandula7185 yeah, I think Navi will win the series 2-0 because how prepped they are. Its no wonder if they can 2-0 TS.
I saw a Smite Phantom. I love the Smite skins. :)
Liquid looked like one of the strongest teams coming in, nAts is obviously insane, Jamppi is probably one of the most underrated oppers, Sayf is one of Guild's stars, Redgar finally brings an IGL to the Liquid fans, and soulcas despite getting a lot of shit has been really solid during LCQ and Champs. Really surprising that one of the less known pacific teams destroyed them
TS is one of the popular teams in Pacific lol. DRX, PRX then TS. Maybe some regiond will not notice that of course lol.
how are they less known compared to Global esports and detonation gaming who have never been on lan once?
@@billjohnsubillaga2408 Let's be honest here TS isnt as popular as you thought. Pretty sure Bleed and 1 or 2 indonesians team are more popular. Although TS have better credentials comparing with the rest of APAC excluding the 2 big brothers.
@@billjohnsubillaga2408 they aren't popular outside of apac
@@billjohnsubillaga2408 DRX PRX ZETA XERXIA(talon,x10)