Worcester: The Sad State of the Greendale Mall (November 2017) Dying Mall?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @icecat516
    @icecat516 6 лет назад +5

    I know some of the Greendale Mall stores were moved out to Millbury “Shoppes at Blackstone Valley”. I used to love Greendale Mall when I was a kid - Dream Machine arcade anyone?! Across from the Old Navy was Lane Bryant. Lens crafters used to be downstairs next to Waldenbooks - where DSW is. There was a Sam Goody across from where DSW is. The Gap was down near Marshall’s (now Big Lots). There was a Bath and Body Works across from Claire’s. EMS was where Rue 21 was. It’s so sad to see the Mall in that state. So many awesome 90s memories there! Solomon Pond Mall started the downfall of Greendale.

  • @Martys2DGaming
    @Martys2DGaming 2 года назад +1

    This Mall and the Auburn Mall live on in my childhood memories. In the very early 90s, I loved the arcade downstairs and Electronics Boutique upstairs. My mom brought my brother and I there a lot. I enjoyed watching this. Thanks

  • @matthewcorrao8468
    @matthewcorrao8468 7 лет назад +6

    I grew up shopping here I personally got to witness the decay of this mall, their first mistake was putting all the anchor stores at the entrances, thus leaving no reason to walk through the mall and patronize the other stores

  • @stevefisk4652
    @stevefisk4652 5 лет назад +4

    I love this video. Also your Worcester Center elevator stuff.
    Used to go to this mall all the time when it first opened. I remember a time when at peak hours it was hard to find a parking space.
    George how about a tour of the Auburn Mall and the former Searstown Mall?

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  5 лет назад

      I only toured this one because of how bad things are here (as well as Midtown Mall downtown Worcester). Good malls (or those running well enough) don't get views, dying ones do.

  • @naiche.
    @naiche. 7 лет назад +3

    I remember going to this mall about a decade ago as a kid. There were many well known stores here, including Gap, AE, Aeropostale, Hot Topic, Marshalls. I've watched it slowly fall to pieces over the years; this place has met its demise and its sad to see. Over time, the stores slowly got replaced by no-name furniture stores, wig shops, and other garbage. Starkly contrasted to the bustling place this used to be, the most recent time I went I could look out in the main hallway and see... nobody. The mall was bought out in 2016 by a company who wants to restore it, but considering what happened to the Galleria, the Greendale is next. It's too late to fix anything. Thank you for the video.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      Glad you enjoyed the video.
      The original anchors were Lechmere, and Marshall's. TJ Maxx/Homegoods was added on, as it was the place to be.
      Then came Solomon Pond (with the Sears), and it was never the same.
      It'll be interesting to see what becomes of this place, post-mortem.

  • @KogeyFox
    @KogeyFox 7 лет назад +6

    I use to come here as a kid and it was pretty full, I remember loving the windowed elevator.
    Been there within the past year, it's empty and falling apart. Bestbuy and Big Lots are the only thing keeping it open.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      Rumor Mill has it if Best Buy does another round of closings, this one will get the ax.
      It'll be a miniature version of the Galleria Mall all over again.

    • @KogeyFox
      @KogeyFox 7 лет назад

      Someone get Dan Bell over here lol

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      It's not that far gone yet, but still a walk through in total darkness (outside) will really set off how dark it is....inside.

    • @matthewcorrao8468
      @matthewcorrao8468 7 лет назад +1

      you forgot tj maxx

    • @laurawhitney9272
      @laurawhitney9272 5 лет назад

      big lots is now closed!

  • @cruggiere
    @cruggiere 7 лет назад +5

    Simon no longer owns Greendale mall, it was sold. Last I heard, no one knows the plans for the property but it remains open. There is a TJ Maxx, Best Buy and a Big Lots occupying the anchor spots but the long term status of all are unknown.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад +1

      I know that, forgot to mention it, though.
      Rumor Mill has it that struggling Best Buy may close this location, if there's another round of closings, and that'll hurt big. No ideas on the other anchors. I see a lot of cars, but no mall traffic, so my guess is that they're heading to the anchors only.

    • @joeflynn4139
      @joeflynn4139 5 лет назад

      Relient Medical Group just bought it

  • @KyleHartley_crazybangles
    @KyleHartley_crazybangles 7 лет назад +2

    Very sad. I’ve watched you since 2012, and I remember the original videos here. Sad to see this.

    • @SamSitar
      @SamSitar 7 лет назад

      Greendale Mall is falling apart.

  • @elevatordailies
    @elevatordailies 7 лет назад +1

    Wow! That mall could have been updated a little, add some new tenants but the owner just let things go downhill. I miss old malls as they always had character to them.

  • @bruh-bd1tr
    @bruh-bd1tr 6 лет назад +1

    R.I.P Greendale. This mall used to be the best back then. Aww the good days.

  • @neilouellette3004
    @neilouellette3004 6 лет назад

    Growing up in Greendale, I remember when the mall was built in the early 80's. Before being built, it was a beautiful open thick meadow from West Boylston St. up to the back of Higgins Armory Museum. This open thick meadow was beautiful with wildlife such as pheasants etc.. Now its a dumpy dank mall which is a eyesore for Greendale.

  • @thejackdrees
    @thejackdrees 7 лет назад +2

    Interesting video, I actually live less than 20 minutes away from the Liberty Tree Mall in Danvers, MA, which like this mall, is owned by Simon.
    I've actually been many times in the past few years, typically not to shop, but to see movies. For the record, they have an AMC at this location. Part of me is somewhat surprised that it's not showing more signs of being a dead mall like this one because the mall in this video may have quite a few malls around it, but there is literally another mall across the street that's bigger than Liberty Tree and also owned by Simon!
    Although if I look at Liberty Tree and dissect it, what they got right is that they have more anchor stores. While Greendale may have Best Buy, Big Lots, and TJMaxx, Liberty Tree has Best Buy, Kohl's, Marshall's, AC Moore, Target, Home Depot, and even a big liquor store.
    Liberty Tree is a single story mall, so no escalators are walled off, in fact the only elevator I've seen in the mall is in the AMC which from what I can tell is meant for employees to access the projection centers.
    They currently have two major restaurants, Buffalo Wild Wings and Panera Bread, and their food court has a good amount of space filled. The court contains eateries like China Max, Regina Pizzeria, McDonald's, Subway, Sea Lion Sushi, and Dunkin Donuts. Although the court also contains unrelated spots including an Armed Forces Recruiting Center, Metro PCS, and The Tech Center.
    Another surprise is that many of the stores are occupied, there's some space available, in fact there's a spot in the food court if another tech shop is interested.
    Speaking of space that's occupied, part of it is occupied by guess what? An arcade! This arcade has been in the mall for a couple of months at least, and it's not even the first time it was here. It was also in the mall for a brief time from 2015 to 2016. Right now it's either in the same space as it was from 2015-2016 or next to it. There was also an arcade when I went in 2006, which I remember being in a different spot.
    The big thing to that I believe gets people coming back is either the fact that there are stores here that aren't available at Northshore Mall across the street (in fact I can relate), plus the Sky Zone, which I haven't mentioned yet, and the AMC. In fact, I believe more people might go to the AMC now since they're making renovations such as from what I hear, reclined seating, and I also noticed that they started working on reserved seating. I honestly thought it was fine the way it was (It was cheap compared to other theaters in the area, it had good sound, large number of theaters, plus an IMAX), but then again, I go to movie theaters based on picture and sound, as opposed to seating arrangements. Well that and I'm a Stubs member at AMC. If some of the stuff I mentioned wasn't put into place, Liberty Tree would either be hanging on a cliff or falling to its death.
    Overall, I really enjoyed this video, and if you manage to come across more dead malls or potential dead malls in the future, I'd love to see them.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад +1

      I always wondered how Liberty Tree could survive with North Shore Mall across from it.
      I do remember Aladdin's Castle (arcade) back in the day, tucked in the back all by itself.
      Last time I've been dragged to North Shore, it was single-story. Shows you how long it's been.

    • @thejackdrees
      @thejackdrees 7 лет назад

      georgef551 Man, it was always two stories when I went.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      You're young then. :)
      I remember family and friends going to Burlington when it had it's new 2nd floor installed. Was a bit strange. You can tell as some department stores didn't line up with the mall's 2nd level.
      If you wonder what it looked like single-story, I did a "Rockin' the Gauntlet" video through Auburn Mall, which was it's identical twin. Only difference is Auburn's ceiling was painted white, while Burlington's was stained. (So was Auburn's, not sure when it got painted.)

    • @thejackdrees
      @thejackdrees 7 лет назад

      georgef551 Yeah, I kinda knew about that. I've actually seen both the Burlington and Auburn gauntlet videos plus I believe I came across older images of Burlington.

  • @marcobaldassarre3853
    @marcobaldassarre3853 6 лет назад +1

    I remember dsw location had a Waldenbooks by the garage door entrance and opposite that was Dream Machine!

  • @OldCBnGuns
    @OldCBnGuns 6 лет назад

    Another Factor was in the early 2000s shops at black stone valley were built. Some stores left the mall and relocated to the shops in millbury.

  • @stevejohnson1321
    @stevejohnson1321 6 лет назад

    Bigger challenge to this mall was probably upper Lincoln street, which has much better highway access. The non-level terrain makes Greendale a poor candidate for a grocery store, which can sometimes bring life back to a mall. Who else would go in? Sears and Penney are failing, and Target is already up on Lincoln. We'll just have to wait and see..

  • @josda1000
    @josda1000 6 лет назад

    you mentioned around 7:50 that it's a sign that a mall is dying when they replace a store with an arcade.
    Pheasant Lane Mall actually, of all places, did this very recently on the second floor by the Target, and I believe the unit used to be a Harrison's. I'm floored, since this mall is always jam packed, at least on the weekends.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  6 лет назад

      PLM was showing some signs of weakness, but still doing OK. Arcades are usually filler for when the management can't find tenants. Other signs of (possible) trouble are medical clinics and gyms residing there.

  • @stevefisk4652
    @stevefisk4652 5 лет назад

    There were originally three jewelry stores in this mall. Two of them were upstairs on either side of the elevator.
    Where that cheezy arcade is now was the Zales. (What a contrast.) On the other side of the elevator was Kay jewels, now vacant.
    Outside of Best Buy, (originally Lechmere), on the corner heading to TJMax was Hanoush Jewelers. When they left, an employer took it over and it became Thomas Diamond.
    Alas, Thomas has stated that they are going out of business.
    So with Payless gone, Rue21 gone, and now the last jewelry store leaving... That's going to be a dark empty section to greet anyone who ventures out from Best Buy into the mall.
    Looking kinda grim in Greendale. Shame. Its a nice mall.

  • @ryanwest1379
    @ryanwest1379 7 лет назад +3

    2 things 1 dsw used to be a restaurant a big popular restaurant 2 just closed the mall Greendale

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      Come to think of it, I barely remember a restaurant there. Fits with the whole "Food Court" thing.

    • @ryanwest1379
      @ryanwest1379 7 лет назад

      martianspy yea that was the name Charles

    • @Stangchild1
      @Stangchild1 6 лет назад

      Yes Charlie's and a very good eatery it was. So sad now...

  • @KateLove21
    @KateLove21 6 лет назад

    I grew up near Worcester so I was always here in its heyday. I used to work at Walden's Bookstore in the early 2000s before that closed. It's in such a sad state now. TBH I think Solomon Pond is the next to die. I was just there and so many stores have closed in the past year or so. Everyone goes to Natick now if they do malls at all. Blackstone is another shopping area in a style more popular these days than the mall. In general malls just aren't really as popular nowadays.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  6 лет назад

      Many were guessing Auburn would die, not Solomon Pond. Hmm.....

  • @lifeisgood1980
    @lifeisgood1980 6 лет назад +2

    DSW used to be Charlie's restaurant

  • @marshahovenesian8142
    @marshahovenesian8142 4 года назад

    As of the end of November 2019, there are probably six stores left. Big Lots and Best Buy are now gone. DSW is still there along with TJ Maxx. There's a furniture store, a massage shop, Bath and Body Works, the arcade (which had no one in it), and maybe one or two other small stores. MALL OWNERS HAVE NOT LEARNED, IF THERE IS NO LARGE DEPARTMENT STORE, A MALL WILL NOT STAY IN BUSINESS. IN GENERAL WHERE HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENT STORES GONE? I REALLY DON'T CARE TO DO ALL MY SHOPPING AT WALMART AND AMAZON. Completely disgusting!

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  4 года назад

      Simon built Solomon Pond about 20 miles away a few years after this, and it died slowly from there. It was around when the Galleria was still that, but two decent-sized malls surrounding this killed it.
      Typically when things go this far, either something new will become of this, or it'll die. From what I heard, the current owners have plans. That's all I read.

  • @juliadennehy
    @juliadennehy 6 лет назад

    Auburn. Then, Solomon Pond... Solomon Pond is leasing to ANYone now. I actually worked for Simon at Greendale when they purchased it from NED... Solomon Pond (when Mark R. managed it), booted CVS when their lease was up, to get a more upscale tenant in there to compete with the Natick Collection (lol). Now, Solomon is on life support, NED never even built the fifth anchor on the north side in 1996. Sad...

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  6 лет назад

      CVS likely got the boot, because CVS is trying to ditch renting mall space, and have stand-alone stores. Some can't do it, but where they can, they will. Since it's known in the industry, it's easier to kick them out, knowing the ultimate fate is to leave anyway.
      I believe all malls will lease to anybody at this point. Some have even sectioned off dead areas to be filled by businesses, and more often, health clinics.

  • @KogeyFox
    @KogeyFox 7 лет назад

    on an unrelated note the Tedeschi/lil peach on north main street by Masons is gonna officially close on Sunday, should check it out before its gone

  • @shovelheadsteve1172
    @shovelheadsteve1172 3 года назад

    I don't have a problem with the low lights, it kind of looks like street lighting at night.

  • @JoshCraver9000
    @JoshCraver9000 7 лет назад +2

    That place is fucked!

    • @SamSitar
      @SamSitar 7 лет назад

      people can ride the wrta to the greendale mall.

  • @amyd5093
    @amyd5093 3 года назад

    I worked at Sweats F/X back in 89-91. in the beginning of the video it was actually where the nail place used to be.

    • @amyd5093
      @amyd5093 3 года назад

      I had friends who worked in the arcade. There was also a restaurant on the way into the food court from the outside as you came in from the parking lot on your left, before you got to DSW. I can't recall the name? Charlie's? It was a pretty fun place to go.

  • @karencanali9754
    @karencanali9754 6 лет назад

    The escalator's were not working when I moved in 2014.......They were always problematic.....

  • @hottrash8090
    @hottrash8090 7 лет назад

    Holy hell I saw your comment on my vid and you weren't kidding! It's way darker and deader.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      ....and it's not going to help when the Olympia is closed.
      Wasn't the best idea to use the store's own lighting to partly light the mall itself.

  • @matthewcorrao8468
    @matthewcorrao8468 7 лет назад

    4:55 the mall never bouned back the stores were filled, but no one was going to them

  • @brianchorsaway2778
    @brianchorsaway2778 7 лет назад

    A lot of the stores here didn't fail.. it was purely the mall failing.. it's a shame it can't bounce back quick and make a move to attract people.. an odd location is all a place needs to be a fail in the makings.. my guess is that the few things bringing people = Best Buy, tj max, bath and body works, and big lots.. been here a little bit recently and it's doing okay..

  • @jeremypollard81
    @jeremypollard81 7 лет назад

    I go there for Best Buy once in a while. The rest of the mall is completely useless, though, and the food court is perhaps the saddest mall food court I've ever seen.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      It's actually a bit better. There was a time only one restaurant was in the food court, and it was a Chinese place, if I recall.

    • @brianchorsaway2778
      @brianchorsaway2778 7 лет назад

      georgef551 in 2016 ish when I did go there, there was nothing in the food court at all! Just an out of order subway and another out of order restaurant next to it.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      THAT, I don't remember. Missed that one. At least it's got two crappy choices now. I think that might be a thing with food courts now, where malls will put anything crappy in. Whitney Field is doing OK, but the food court is no-name tenants.

    • @brianchorsaway2778
      @brianchorsaway2778 6 лет назад

      georgef551 I think auburn mall had like pretzel Annie's and then maybe the Solomon one had some more corporate companies. But yeah I always sorta remembered most malls having small companies for food court stuff.

  • @karencanali9754
    @karencanali9754 6 лет назад

    A very successful "CHARLIE'S" Restaurant was originally where DSW is/was....

  • @dominickgoparian8728
    @dominickgoparian8728 4 года назад

    I was always here with my grandma

  • @OECEntertainment
    @OECEntertainment 7 лет назад

    They should try street level retail downtown

  • @kevincanali9165
    @kevincanali9165 6 лет назад

    I believe claires was the longest run store in the mall

  • @SamSitar
    @SamSitar 7 лет назад

    a minecraft version of greendale mall is very dangerous. arcades make a place fun though.

  • @OECEntertainment
    @OECEntertainment 7 лет назад

    I'd say it's on its on its death bed, from the last time I was there only months ago, and I thought there was some hope then, but now it looks done for. In comes low income houses(wordplay with sadness). I really liked the mall, one of the best for tj maxx shopping.

  • @karencanali9754
    @karencanali9754 6 лет назад

    CVS never had a pharmacy at the Greendale Mall.....

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  6 лет назад

      They had mall convenience stores, which it did have (that is their storefornt design).

    • @icecat516
      @icecat516 6 лет назад +1

      CVS was at Greendale - top floor going towards Lechmere on the right.

  • @bruh-bd1tr
    @bruh-bd1tr 6 лет назад

    CVS Used to be where "Dollar 'n things" were.

  • @BostonElevatorDude
    @BostonElevatorDude 7 лет назад

    So, I take it Greendale Mall is being demo'd?

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      Not that I know of. It's just failing with bigger malls nearby.

    • @BostonElevatorDude
      @BostonElevatorDude 7 лет назад

      georgef551 Ah, gotcha. So, will it close permanently or?

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  7 лет назад

      Nobody knows. A new entity bought it, and making zero attempts to fill the empty voids, and killing the escalators is not a good sign.
      Then again, before The Mall at Whitney Field became that (Searstown Mall beforehand), that was far worse off than this, and it's doing fairly well, minus a couple empty spots, but just a couple, maybe a few.

  • @someguy23475
    @someguy23475 6 лет назад +1

    I don’t see any churches so it’s not totally dead... yet

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551  6 лет назад

      Got a point there. My "Midtown Mall" video had a ton of those in the lower level.

  • @ventues9751
    @ventues9751 6 месяцев назад

    DSW was a shoe store

  • @SonGoku-ut3nd
    @SonGoku-ut3nd 4 года назад

    there is a ghost in that mall