HAYABUSA ADVANCE SERVER CHANGES: STRONGER OR WEAKER?
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- HAYABUSA ADVANCE SERVER CHANGES: STRONGER OR WEAKER?
Ready to unleash the storm with the NEW Hayabusa? Advance Server is testing some BIG changes for our favorite shadow assassin, and we're breaking it all down!
➡️ Energy depletion nightmare? His skill costs more, but the cooldown is insane!
➡️ Single target ultimate: friend or foe? No more bouncing around, but is it a good thing?
➡️ Mobility nerfed? His second skill takes a hit, but at least it's free now!
➡️ Is Hayabusa still a jungling beast? Let's test his early game and see!
➡️ Purple buff dependency? He needs that juice to stay energized! ⚡️
Plus, epic jungle invades, turtle steals, and clutch teamfights! Witness the NEW Hayabusa in action and decide for yourself: buff or nerf?
Share your thoughts in the comments below!
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His playstyle has changed drastically just for the sake of the revamped ultimate.
If the developers want to buff Hayabusa for the next patch, revert all the changes made and just reduce his ultimate cooldown from 50 down to 45 or 40. And fix the part where flicker/dash skills cancels his ult.
That's enough for me, as a Haya main.
Hell no, he farms wayyyy too slow
@@justever5301they reduce his skill 1 cd by -10 or -20 points of dmg why does haya get like middle finger nerfs from moontoon after every buff now ever since his revamp this time I hope he will be playable but not ban worthy in the end in official server
As an Haya user i agree. One of the most annoying part is that his ult stops when enemies are suddenly far away from where you started your ult. Ult cd reduction is good but the one in official server is too much its a bit broken. longer 2nd skill cd is so unnecessary, it slows his farming ability.
I stopped haya after his first revamp. They destroyed him
@@ersatz6805yes bro, you speak my mind bro.
They spoiled hayabusa
Haya's ultimate is basically a scarier Saber Ultimate minus the CC
+ Invulnerable
+ It will always stick to the target you select, so the old "group together to save your teammate from Haya" tactic is basically useless now
+ More Passive marks equals more slashes
Either nerf the damage or cd
But now wind of nature and winter item can fully immune and dodge his ultimate
@@LeeIanID His ultimate is like 10 seconds with 30% cdr 40% 10 seconds only so if mm use wind, just give haya 10 seconds and he can fight again
@@Tl.2255oh right 😅 i forgot the ultimate has low cd yup definitely hayabusa now broken need nerf 😂😂😂
@@Tl.2255 Alright looks like Haya is good then
As haya main i wish if they make the haya ult like
wanwan when kill an enemy he change his target
Id agree but his ult cd will be nerfed in exchange to make it more balanced
sure. it woul be fair with the cost of his invisibility
So you want official server Haya. Well enjoy
you can actually change the target at will with the old hayabusa. It was way way way back. but ofcourse, they need to nerf other heroes while chinese heroes gets all the buff.
@@kamote4067tf, Why're you being xenophobic?
he became a more versatile version of saber now. 😅 meant for precise one hit kills. 😅
0:35 since his first revamp haya become buff dependant
I remember when he can be used in the sidelane
I remember when Hayabusa used to have mana, gud ol days @@Badget007
first adjustment after the first revamp
Revamped Hayabusa
first skill energy cost=40
second skill energy cost=0
ultimate energy cost=0
As a Haya main, I think this is a slight nerf because of it's 2nd skill, I prefer old haya's ult cd and 2nd skill (so it will be balance), because mobility is one of the reason why haya is strong becausen of it you can gank solo, exit then re- enter a teamfight and rotate faster
He is also versatile to use honestly if you know how to use it
For me they messed haya with his first revamp.From that time his popularity drops drastically.
This is not slight Nerf they r killing haya slowly and wants to make haya like saber which is utterly b.s
@@itzanemotion9169 yeah like who would love to see the shurikens removed and replaced it into a dagger :')
@@kylesenshi2309 yeah before revamps he's too smooth but now he feels edgy
They definitely massacred his split pushing abilities with that 2nd CD and Ult wave clear nerf.
as a haya main,this is a huge L,this buff is ridiculous,now haya doesnt require any skill and everybody will be picking him
No one pick Hayabusa after the revamp 😂. Before the revamp he was underrated too. But they still chose to revamp him. I don't know why. Old Haya was perfect.
I'm happy flicker can't cancel his ult!
ya it's annoying
For those who said he is Broken for his Damage,Then what is Assassin? Assassin has Highest Damage in the game but you wanted Mage or Marksman as the highest Damage
Assassins are not meant to have the highest dps in the game, they're meant to be heroes who have high burst capabilities with exceptional mobility
Marksman and mages are literally known for their exceptional damage output but are prone to damage.
Fighters are generally heroes who are all rounders in damage, mobility, and sustaining
Tanks are heroes who initiate team fights, setups for the team, take damage for the team, and serve as heroes who take risks for the team and check bushes
Supports are heroes who are meant to aid you in battle and farming, usually through healing, slows, cc or some other mechanic exclusive to the hero.
Hayabusa has just been getting Nerf after Nerf after Nerf. One good buff made him "powerful." And BOOM. Straight to Nerf nation.
They should've let Hayabusa or Lunox win in M6 skin voting event cuz there's already a Marksman in it, but what did they vote to win another Marksman 😑
Idgaf Claude is the goat
Nahh, it's the community who like to vote marksman, Moonton has no intention to manipulate the vote directly
Don't bother,after all there are tons of retards
Hayabusa needs CDR boots and hunter knife as his first 2 items. Adding purple buff + those 2 items now gives him 30% CDR right away which solves his 2nd skill CD issue
The problem here is his mobility and wave clearing potential they did him opposite of Nolan first he was not worth to wave clear with Nolan now all he's good for I wave clear
@@spikeyyyyy not everyone can be good at everything
Next update: each mark consumed will reduce 2nd skill cooldown. just like any other assassins out there.
Moontoon is standardizing heroes, same gamestyle, same skill sets
Game becoming more and more saturized
He overcomes a lot of problems that he was facing before but overall his game play changed.They nerfed his mobility and laning means no more aggressive plays and split pushing.He will have more time in jungle and have to use his mobility skills carefully. But i don't like maintaining the blue buff part as we all know how hard can it be in solo ranks just to take your own buffs time to time.
I think this is a buff
+You can save your shadow except of spending one
+faster ult means faster escape
+not clunky jung because i use shadows to reduce cd of first skill so ah yes
-split push
-shorter immunity
-does not transfer (less enemy killed)
-farming for two reasons
first the passive no longer get extra dmg
second bluebuff
Similarly to other heroes like moskov and Melissa, they should make the second skill cd reduce with each basic attack or everytime you deal damage with the ultimate, I don't think it would be that op and would make hayabusa the agile hero he is supposed to be
It's a nerf for haya cuz his pick rate is going to go down(over 69% ban rate) in rank 💀
This is basically a nerf to Haya tbh, because his mobility is now limited, and he has became saber. Maybe revert all the changes and make the ultimate cd shorter is better
sad to see this haya update wasnt fully applied
Well as a new haya player that I have been practicing him for about a month, I would say I would mind so much that his 1st skill has a higher energy drain, we gotta make it balanced gameplay. My problems are the 2nd and 3rd skills. Which is the duration cooldown of the 2nd skill is longer which makes him harder waiting to do mobility moves. I wouldn't mind at all if it was his 2nd skill still to have energy drain sightly higher but duration cooldown cut short. That would make him the perfect ninja of mobility. 3rd skill would be perfect as singles target which I love, but has a twist which is similar like Martis ulti, upon successful kill, he could spam his ulti to the next. But for sure his duration and slash depends on energy cost or ,his mobility shadow remaining will help to attack so it cuts down his mobility for making him balance. 😅 Just my own opinion, mark kunai can be decreased to 3 max,wont see that much changes if moonton able to pull this and alot of players would be happier I guess.❤
Stronger? Weaker? Naw his broken
he's*
Only broken if second skill CD is reduced. His mobility now is pretty poor
Nawh, it's pretty fair, his ult has always been his main damage, and unlike other assassin, he's now pretty limited in terms of mobility.
He is balance but if this update arrive he will be really op
Not broken this one is indirect Nerf his split push up has been nerfed significantly he needs more blue now or he is useless shit .
I think they'll adjust his ult cd a bit since 16sec cd is a bit too fast
Why did they even change his ULT mechanics? It's OKAY and it does not have any problems in the official server.
As a haya main, I think they should just increase his atk growth and lower the cool down of his ultimate. In addition, they should make his ultimate inescapable. If he marks 5 heroes, his ultimate will do aoe dmg. It really annoys me when his ultimate jumps from one person to another.
I'm one of the person who personally message their customers service regarding about changing of hero adjustment skills and that's Hayabusa. I thought they really buff it for sure but after seeing this one I think they over do it. And here's my message opinions and advices concerning to this hero.
First of all, I really do understand that in last season they nerfed his first skill damage because its too op. But you see, his range is very short compared to old hayabusa that has wide range and big shurikens and that's why I'm concerned with.
So I hope you need to widen the first skill range.
For second skill, I don't have any concern regarding of its skill adjustment because it is smooth, instant and shadow positions is wide although the cd is longer, its still acceptable. But for some reason, they change a little bit its skin shadow effects. One of his skin is the sushi masters shadow effect when transfering to another.
Lastly the third skill. My problem is the cancellation of last skill when flickered by enemy and the way you cast the special skill makes me wonder why the shadow counts is either decreased or increased.
Man they really took hayabusas skillset that separates the good hayabusa players to newbie ones. Now hes just a newbie friendly alrdy sad (I just got back on playing ML recently and this video helped me hayabusa main btw)
Hayabusa being master yi now with the short cd of ultimate
Kinda
Finally we have another (indirect) wanwan nerf 😀
I love wanwan nerfs
imo moonton should just bring his old skill set back and his old stats
They nerfed his split pushing ability and the viability of being used as a exp/gold lane hero, but buffed him immensely as an assassin hero in isolation.
His ult used to be the best at clearing waves and now…
*look how they’ve massacred my boy*
Rest easy old reliable 😔
I think the 2nd skills is not same anymore when using ultimate and trying to get back before ult expires
The 2nd Skill Cooldown💀
This is going to be bad for him. Good Adjustment tho.
It's fair though because his 2nd cd can be reduce thru emblems and items.
I think Haya is great if ignored by the enemy, however if all of the enemy team aims to get him like invading his jungle or just even having a Natalia to proc his second skill then it would severely limit what he could do. That's what I have observed anyways.
As a haya main. I love this update. The only problem i had with haya was his ult targeting random minions or creeps but now they fixed that.
Personally I feel like they are killing my Ninja guy💀
I think you can build him with energy stealing item so every time you use skill 1 you can accumulate more energy.
IIR. Hayabusas' ultimate is single target before it was revamped.
He is strong in some aspects but I would much prefer that he sticks to one enemy but if other enemies have marks they will receive dmg from his ult and those with the max marks should receive some form of debuff or dmg
ult should just get a little cd reduction 50 to 45 or 42 the other changes can stay
They need to tone down his Ultimate a little bit in CD then atleast lower down a bit the cd of his 2nd ability. I don't care if he needs more energy in first skill I can manage it even without purple buff but the 2nd skill CD I think he is not that fast now when it comes with his mobility if this revamp will be applied.
Basically becomes an immune spammer
Ah yes, Lance but with less mobility
Bruh the play style has changed a lot... I think I'll need to go back to advance server to practice him first
Moontoon pls make hayas ult still for multiep enemies but still add that single targeting mode but after the hero is killed he can just jump his ult in another player
I think they shouldn't revamp him bc the old one is much better and his ultimate needs to be targeting the enemy since u can just damge him by you shuriken or basic attack
Man i might use the ult to clear jungle wave that the 1st skill 😂😂😂
Istg moontoon keeps making easy to play op heroes. Miss the times when assassins were much harder to play but still very scary.
Remember everyone including mm and mage go semi-tnk build he ain't killing with that ulti nor split pushing with 20sec CD on 2ns skill
I need a moskov buff, he is straight up unusable on high rank, easy to bully, weak crit damage compared to other crit heroes even on late game, trinity build is all he can use, mark that up with his extremely short range and many unnecessary nerf that no one asked for he is just straight up poop right now
I think its a nerf especially on the Ult as it stops when the target dies. No one would want to use it on the Tank just so that all slashes will be utilized even though it cleaves. So surely he is just another kind of Saber through this. It would be hard to kill 2-3 heroes with this setup.
I hope they just gave most of these to Saber and did a different change to Haya..
3:42 - what in the hell was that ?!?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
There a hero that have long cd skill than ultimate...for example hanzo first skill have 25 sc while his ult only 21 sc
Skill 2 cd too long,feel like they could've done something like "skill 2 cd reduce by 1s for each stack consume by ulti".Also not being able to clear a minion wave with ulti is a joke💀
I miss old Haya with shurikens instead of daggers.
Cant wait to use him again 🥷👀
Could be nice if enemy kills reduce the cooldown of his second skill by 1 or something,Or maybe regen his energy
i thought i can use him in exp lane now that he doesn't need energy to cast his ult and 2nd. I'm so dead wrong, i wasted of 100 dia for his seasonal elite skin and i thought i can still play him in exp 😭😭 (I'm not a jungler player)
Energy consumption is much higher pre-nerf even though 2nd skill no longer consume energy so I get why you were unable to play him in EXP.
@@Sei003 exp haya is meta back then, and I love that meta. and now that he's not only buff dependant. buff dependant + potentially getting harassed by the enemy roamer. delaying his farm
finally a low cd ult like a true asassin what the hell 50 second cooldown is this a tank
haya in official server still randomly jump into jungle creep or enemy tanks so this revamp is overpowered as f*ck.
Everywhere i go everywhere there will be 3phase kof😑lots of doubt cuz dawning star also postponed for no reason and kof also can still do phase 3 on 20jan and still have time😑😑and i m stuck on 5digit pattern after using all my Christmas saving and getting nothing my 40draw all wasted just getting 4 owned epic skin😑😑😑
I think that's a buff with a little nerf😅
We bring back old haya
ML loves making heroes OP by buffing them for no reason 💀
What even warranted a Hayabusa buff of this degree? It's not like he has been underperforming in the current patch. If they really wanted to shake up the game and make it more interesting, instead of creating uncounterable heroes the ML dev team could implement new map changes or objective changes to shake up the meta.
I have grown tired of playing around different OP heroes which is why it was a relief for me that we got a 10-ban system. I hope Moonton does more than a temporary band-aid fix.
This is definitely not balanced I think they need to trim his skills more, yes the skill 2 cd just sucks and the ultimate dmg is too high plus low cd but I guess they want him to snowball but yet again like elgin said haya is more blue dependent? God that means if he no blue he will be very useless
Ultimate and skill2 can be used without energy.....energy is only forskill1
@@arsalanph7 his ultimate need energy what u mean it doesn't?
@@Tl.2255 doesn't
@@arsalanph7 O wow I check it doesn't they didn't really mention everything in the patch notes
@@Tl.2255 yeah, maybe because it's still in testing phase
Now this is a nice revamp... Not like Masha revamp
I think the developers have no idea what to do with him.
this new hayabusa feels like its just better saber
How is his second skill longer than ultimate?
It is a buff because they overbusted his ultimate and improved the other skills as well but I think veteran haya players won't like it. He is now easier to play but more buff dependant and has bad AOE. his marks helped you focus on one target and when an enemy was low health and got killed you could redirect all the remaining damage to another enemy. He can't clear waves fast now. I feel they took away versatility for assassination capability and reduced his skill floor and ceiling. Probably broken but I don't like it very much
@elgin, how can i share my replay so u can post it on ur shorts?
I miss the pre revamped hayabusa 😞
For new players : haya DMG s broken
Meanwhile me: As a long time assassin player I'll Miss your style
Cannot help teammate anymore to transfer ulti
Ngl what i like about his ultimate is more shadows 12 to 8 is uh not good in my opionion
Feels like another version of saber
if the quad shadow became ult, copyright strikes might happen because its kind of similar to Zed (even though his character already is similar)
Saber V2.0. no stun but improved mobility
Haya got butchered, now he is a Bootleg saber and the 2nd skill Cd nerf was fucking unnecessary
Bring back old haya ult
Bro learned the secret ninjutsu
Its broken dude. Moneyton getting ready for Exorcist Skin man.
-Haya Main
Moonton buffed PH Haya mains, mainly Kyle, Hadess, Demonkite and Kairi. Lol.
So using tig ult and carmila ult= 3x more damage for haya? He already have aoe so tig ult and haya ult works but if we add carmila ult then what happens? Enemies automatically delete?
I feel like hayabusa is no longer my worries rn i just have to avoid his ultimate which is easy cus no extra damage plus less slashes to his ult just wind chant or any defensive and i just kill him immedietly
They should add more CD to ult and lower CD on second skill or he's not going to be a ninja
he been balanced not nerf or revamp
How does he have an item list on the side?
pick SABER : hayabusa Stronger? 😂😂😂
Perhaps moontoon is planning to release a new hayabusa skin, after several months they'll nerf him really bad.
huge nerf on haya,non transferable ulti,long cd for 2nd skills,purple buff dependent.
Much more stronger than before
just build the item freeze 😂 15sec later hayabusa will comeback after u use it.I like its ult but the secondskill😢
Lord Riki:Finally
This is a mess😂😂😂....
They have to adjust a looo...tt of things or It will be bad hero....
Is it necessary to use ult on a 1hp targer :))
Global no 1 haya now have to play a few classic just to test the buff because is gonna get ban in every match
It's like saber on steroids
I think this hayabusa is inderect nerf
But nerf to split push
Buff for primary target
So......alpha but invulnurable instead of CC?
They just need to buff him like why do they change all of this all over again ? So stupid and why do they change the attack delay it was supposed to be irithel passive now every mm got it they even make tanks like Akai and baxia have more damage then assassin like ling
Damage is also buffed btw. Ult's ATK scaling is now 100% of the extra physical ATK and now has bonus damage from the shadow marks of 130-150.
for me just bring back his old 2nd skill for f** sake
He just became a weaker saber. At the very least saber can be played on multiple roles coz he is not buff dependent.
Even A.I training haya is broken. They gonna come for your ass