Thanks for the video Chad. I have been thinking in swap my Scip for the Gorgo on the commander swap event (if possible), because i really need a garrison to random tp without worrying on getting rallied. The video helped me a lot to decide that, thanks bro!
Yes I do not have the same results. Even used William against 1365 and gave it one more try. Gets melted and brings the trades way down. Just not enough damage. And glass cannon. I have run it and run it and run it. And William just doesn't cut it.
@@WarDaddyChadski Opposite experience. William preforms better than Beli but the biggest for me is all my other marches doing far far better with William than with Beli. Turns out 750 rage and 100% defense for 3 seconds is pretty good. And super conditional 12% all damage that isn't even active for 80% of reports is pretty medicore.
Zero seige? It's an ideal choice for sixth march IMO. Ranged trades better than anything (naturally), and while they have no pushing power, they provide great support pressure and KP farm while your main five does the real work.
When new commander comes out, I will probably bench Nevsky like I said in the vid. Beli does way too much to help the other marches. He is the only commander with an instant and perpetual rebuff. Essentially equipping all your marches with 2 critter rings (12% damage on the target from everyone). Beli is fast and gets out of trouble. William is glass cannon and just doesn't do the damage anywhere close to the other commanders. I was William advocate for years, but Beli just performs better for me and all the marches. Like a lot.
When new commander comes out, I will probably bench Nevsky like I said in the vid. Beli does way too much to help the other marches. He is the only commander with an instant and perpetual rebuff. Essentially equipping all your marches with 2 critter rings (12% damage on the target from everyone). Beli is fast and gets out of trouble. William is glass cannon and just doesn't do the damage anywhere close to the other commanders. I was William advocate for years, but Beli just performs better for me and all the marches. Like a lot.
@@WarDaddyChadski To each their own. He did much worse for me and its a conditional 12% it doesn't stick on ever unless you fight people who are afk or rallies (he is good vs rallies). Go look turn by turn through reports and you can see it drop off completely or to 6% or 9% constantly throughout the reports. Only takes the target moving just a tiny bit off of one march for one split second for you to lose your 12% or 9% buff and end up with a lower percentage or nothing. It is clearly looking at the number of marches doing normal attack damage that exact turn, and if you disconnect for that split second it won't show up in the commander who is disconnecting report but all the other reports will show the all damage drop down. I found instance after instance where this was dropping down to 6% or no buff on the turns of active skills effectively making his expertise useless. If you look at my slowest march (archer) it was present in this one report every single turn of a 22 turn report. Meanwhile, on my cavs which were having more total turns despite the same fight due to disconnecting less you will see frequently that buff was dropping down to 6% of nothing as the target march would move just an inch and for that one split second only 1 or 2 or 3 marches out of 6 were actually touching. We had a whole group of us going through reports after our zone fight from two kingdoms and all were finding the same disappointing thing and meanwhile when William was out on the field instead, especially when William was behind Huo I was seeing significantly better reports from all my marches due to the rage buff keeping their skill cycles shorter.
@@georgeosamaaI think the big issue with Philip will be how heavily targeted he’s gonna be. People will quickly realize how critical it is to get that march off the field IMMEDIATELY. MAYBE if you’re already running 6 or 7 marches, he can probably pay you favor. But as put of a 5 or less, mehhh… Besides, Alex’s 30% damage taken for 4 seconds is pretty sick in itself as part of your mb.
Also Chadski please confirm if Phillip is primary is the 2 seconds on his active skill long enough to boost the second commanders active skill. For some reason I always thought it would need to be a minimum 3 seconds.
For commander reset. Should i switch my 5551 scipio to ragnar? And run him with my expertise lc? But scipios debuff is nice and he has the proc synergy with lc? 🤷♂️
Depends on who you’re taking LC from to start with. If you’re running him with Alex or WW, might just be best to keep your scipio, and work on Ragnar over time. Besides, you only get the true value from Ragnar expertise anyways. And like you said, scipios health debuff is huge, just short of Alex’s 30% damage taken.
@@12banana58 that might not be so bad. I’ve also since benched my guan since expertising Ragnar. That’s not to say some commander may come some ways down the road that pairs great with Guan, but Ragnar is a super solid upgrade.
I also think Herman is better than ZL and I also thought Huo is better than nevsky. Alot of people ripped on me when I said Huo is better lol. Great video
It is OK. People who do not want to have to invest in more commanders are very apprehensive and sometimes closed minded. Hermann probably just as good as Zhuge. If they are equal, then I give the nod to Hermann because he works better with other archer coms. And is faster. Huo is just better. Straight up. Does more damage, Fires off quicker.
Hey Chadsky, I only run 1 cav march and I’ve felt recently that my Nevsky/Joan is my worst trading march, would you recommend swapping some commander for Huo and bench Nevsky?
@@icecube4030 Make the decision easy, and just go for 2 inf marches 😂😂😂😂 Nah, depending on how long it takes you, you could do scipio/LC, then wait to see what the next inf release is. If it’s a little meh, then you could always do Wallace and Ragnar, and you’ll have 2 of the best mb marches in the game with Wallace/LC, and Scipio/Ragnar. I’m an inf main on both of my accounts, if I were only running 1 inf marches on both instead of 2, I’d also have a hard time with the decision. Just keep in mind, while scipio is a great commander right now, and part of the inf meta, he IS old. So no guarantees that he’ll last a long time, as he already has.
@@GrowmietheGreen thank you for your response, I do plan to quit the account after the next kvk because it has no future. so if you werent thinking about the future what would you run?r
@@icecube4030 no future? I’d say just go with the scipio/LC then. MB tried and true. It’s a clapper 🫵😎 if you have GOOD arch armaments, go with those. But if not, wedge is fine
Chadskii. If cavs get a commander that deal combo attacks with 25% chance or greater like Luiche, William might get a revival. Considering Lui che gave Alex a revival based on his instant proc. Williams instant proc might not be as good as Alex but the rest of his kit is pretty good. Also if he can get a museum buff maybe health who knows how good William will be in the future. One thing is for sure is to not invest in William, more for the people who already have, I have hope 😅
William would need a museum buff. Desperately. Just doesn't do enough damage and has no defensive stats. I can see the combo logic from William proc, but it is not near as potent as Alex's
@WarDaddyChadski i guess one way to test is to use a kvk artefact for William and put him behind Lui che and see what happens....has anyone tried this already?
Advice for a new player on what to invest in? I am about 3 weeks from the end of kvk1 (aka in kvk1 right now)? Particularly advice for upcoming kvk2 marches? I am FTP, have Sun Tzu expertised, ethel 5523, YSG 4110, martel 4111. I was thinking some combo of those for next kvk? Thank you!
The nevsky slander tho :( I dunno man, with equal gear, my nevsky still consistently outperforms my huo in the field. Also william has additional instant proc, he does damage just fine. The real answer is you just run 3 cav marches whenthe new comms come.
@@WarDaddyChadski yeah that's probably true. I guess you're right, cos since you can't run huo/joan and nev/joan at the same time, it always comes down to 2 march performance for me. i find that nev/joan, huo/joan, and huo/william basically perform ballpark similar in the field, while other combinations such as nev/will are clearly worse, which does indicate huo to be the stronger primary. personally, my 2 cav marches are still my best performing field marches so i'm not likely to bench anything from them any time soon ultimately. the plan is to swap into beliP in jan, and then add it with the new field comm as a 3rd cav march in feb/march.
People having opposite experiences about Beli Prime. You guys should start comparing apples to apples and say how many marches you run etc. Maybe he's good with 6+ marches but bad with 3 marches or whatever.
I been telling people how under rated beli is since the first day he was out. Everyone was so pissed,said he was trash. Complete aoe fanboys, not capable of actually evaluating commanders
I think Hermann Prime is mad overrated and the only reason he gets the fame he does is because archers choices right now are not stellar. All they have is ZL whos high damage but super boring and Mrs true damage who probably won't shine until the next archer cycle.
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Thanks for the video Chad. I have been thinking in swap my Scip for the Gorgo on the commander swap event (if possible), because i really need a garrison to random tp without worrying on getting rallied. The video helped me a lot to decide that, thanks bro!
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I've had beli maxed since the first week. William is MUCH better than beli in the field. Beli is only good for swarming.
Yes I do not have the same results. Even used William against 1365 and gave it one more try. Gets melted and brings the trades way down. Just not enough damage. And glass cannon. I have run it and run it and run it. And William just doesn't cut it.
@@WarDaddyChadski Opposite experience. William preforms better than Beli but the biggest for me is all my other marches doing far far better with William than with Beli.
Turns out 750 rage and 100% defense for 3 seconds is pretty good. And super conditional 12% all damage that isn't even active for 80% of reports is pretty medicore.
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Great video as always... thank you
100% i agree with all of these. Thanks chadski
Zero seige? It's an ideal choice for sixth march IMO. Ranged trades better than anything (naturally), and while they have no pushing power, they provide great support pressure and KP farm while your main five does the real work.
Benching Nevsky is crazy. The beli P is def getting benched.
Beli P isn't good. More and more people benching him for William back for the way better buff that actually works.
I benched Nevsky for Huo
When new commander comes out, I will probably bench Nevsky like I said in the vid. Beli does way too much to help the other marches. He is the only commander with an instant and perpetual rebuff. Essentially equipping all your marches with 2 critter rings (12% damage on the target from everyone). Beli is fast and gets out of trouble. William is glass cannon and just doesn't do the damage anywhere close to the other commanders. I was William advocate for years, but Beli just performs better for me and all the marches. Like a lot.
When new commander comes out, I will probably bench Nevsky like I said in the vid. Beli does way too much to help the other marches. He is the only commander with an instant and perpetual rebuff. Essentially equipping all your marches with 2 critter rings (12% damage on the target from everyone). Beli is fast and gets out of trouble. William is glass cannon and just doesn't do the damage anywhere close to the other commanders. I was William advocate for years, but Beli just performs better for me and all the marches. Like a lot.
@@WarDaddyChadski To each their own. He did much worse for me and its a conditional 12% it doesn't stick on ever unless you fight people who are afk or rallies (he is good vs rallies). Go look turn by turn through reports and you can see it drop off completely or to 6% or 9% constantly throughout the reports. Only takes the target moving just a tiny bit off of one march for one split second for you to lose your 12% or 9% buff and end up with a lower percentage or nothing. It is clearly looking at the number of marches doing normal attack damage that exact turn, and if you disconnect for that split second it won't show up in the commander who is disconnecting report but all the other reports will show the all damage drop down. I found instance after instance where this was dropping down to 6% or no buff on the turns of active skills effectively making his expertise useless. If you look at my slowest march (archer) it was present in this one report every single turn of a 22 turn report. Meanwhile, on my cavs which were having more total turns despite the same fight due to disconnecting less you will see frequently that buff was dropping down to 6% of nothing as the target march would move just an inch and for that one split second only 1 or 2 or 3 marches out of 6 were actually touching. We had a whole group of us going through reports after our zone fight from two kingdoms and all were finding the same disappointing thing and meanwhile when William was out on the field instead, especially when William was behind Huo I was seeing significantly better reports from all my marches due to the rage buff keeping their skill cycles shorter.
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Infantry is just cracked right now, 4 aoe commnaders that you can play with...
I really hope they release an aoe commander for cavs.
No to mention, reasonably fast too 😂😂😂
100% agree HQ/JOAN no.1 march , ZL/Herman very good damager but cost a lot of rss as they are targeted 1st in high seed kvks
Nice video
When I ran 3 cavs Attila was always my weal link and the last to need refreshing
With an artifact, you can put a smite damage commander behind him and he will not be your weak link.
Do you think Belisarius P will be replaced when the next cav commanders released?.
Because i don't have him, so I'm gonna ask should I swap for him?.
I think if you are just entering soc Philip will be must with LC especially for f2p
No way, Phillip is bad, if you want his buff it's only 2 seconds in every 8 seconds.
I would agree with this. Phillip way too strong and his buff is insane. He is all damage so you can literally put him with anyone.
Best video ever
If you say Huo-Joan is the best march what is the next Cav March for the open field?
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I have got boudica and ysg maxed and just returned to the game should I leave them and do another march or swap?
Witch two cav marches would you run ??
Huo/joan and nevsky/belli??
Nevsky/Joan, Huo/William
Huo/Nev and Joab/Beli. For whatever reason Joan doesn't get targeted.
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@@WarDaddyChadskiwe love it bro
Awesome bro
I take it Chad likes atilla.
So do i
bro please, how about using swapping Liu/Alex for Philip/Liu and still use infantry gear non-crit?
I don't know if that would work better or not. If your gear is critical for infantry
@@WarDaddyChadski it is not crit for infantry, just level 2 iconic all non crit
@@georgeosamaaI think the big issue with Philip will be how heavily targeted he’s gonna be. People will quickly realize how critical it is to get that march off the field IMMEDIATELY. MAYBE if you’re already running 6 or 7 marches, he can probably pay you favor. But as put of a 5 or less, mehhh… Besides, Alex’s 30% damage taken for 4 seconds is pretty sick in itself as part of your mb.
@@GrowmietheGreen you are right in all aspects, thanks man
Which is better attila liu? Or liu attila? With accesories to change skills
If you are caravlry main, Attila / Liu. If infantry main Liu / Attila. To put attila primary get full buff and people avoid hit open field too.
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Better Ragnar or Philip ? I run guan/scipi, liuche/alex, Zgl/herman, nev/joan and huo/william.
Good question. I need to see more results from Phillip
let me know if you find it Chads , thanks 😊
Also Chadski please confirm if Phillip is primary is the 2 seconds on his active skill long enough to boost the second commanders active skill. For some reason I always thought it would need to be a minimum 3 seconds.
Yes it is set for secondary active skill. For a commander like Gorgo it does not because she delays her active smite by 1 second
For commander reset. Should i switch my 5551 scipio to ragnar? And run him with my expertise lc? But scipios debuff is nice and he has the proc synergy with lc? 🤷♂️
Depends on who you’re taking LC from to start with. If you’re running him with Alex or WW, might just be best to keep your scipio, and work on Ragnar over time. Besides, you only get the true value from Ragnar expertise anyways. And like you said, scipios health debuff is huge, just short of Alex’s 30% damage taken.
I am planning to swap my guan for ragnar , guan doesn't seem good now always bad trades
@@12banana58 that might not be so bad. I’ve also since benched my guan since expertising Ragnar. That’s not to say some commander may come some ways down the road that pairs great with Guan, but Ragnar is a super solid upgrade.
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I also think Herman is better than ZL and I also thought Huo is better than nevsky. Alot of people ripped on me when I said Huo is better lol. Great video
It is OK. People who do not want to have to invest in more commanders are very apprehensive and sometimes closed minded. Hermann probably just as good as Zhuge. If they are equal, then I give the nod to Hermann because he works better with other archer coms. And is faster. Huo is just better. Straight up. Does more damage, Fires off quicker.
@WarDaddyChadski big facts
I'm running 2 marches cav only.. I use Huo+Joan and Nevsky + William.. Should I replace William with Beli P?
Probably not unless you have a ton of gold heads.
Anybody else miss Saladin/william?😢
The good old days Saladin William
Hey Chadsky, I only run 1 cav march and I’ve felt recently that my Nevsky/Joan is my worst trading march, would you recommend swapping some commander for Huo and bench Nevsky?
If you only run 1, then Huo would be better. But I would wait for the next Cav generation in February
Huo with Philip or i'm wrong?
would you recommend I use liu/ragnar in kvk 3? or do liu with 5551 scipio and save sculptures for a cav march. ( I have no cav gear yet)
You are all good with Liu/Scipio. I would not max ragnar to put scorpio on the bench
@WarDaddyChadski I dont have scipio. I need to decide between making a 5551 scipi or a max ragnar
@@icecube4030 Make the decision easy, and just go for 2 inf marches 😂😂😂😂 Nah, depending on how long it takes you, you could do scipio/LC, then wait to see what the next inf release is. If it’s a little meh, then you could always do Wallace and Ragnar, and you’ll have 2 of the best mb marches in the game with Wallace/LC, and Scipio/Ragnar. I’m an inf main on both of my accounts, if I were only running 1 inf marches on both instead of 2, I’d also have a hard time with the decision. Just keep in mind, while scipio is a great commander right now, and part of the inf meta, he IS old. So no guarantees that he’ll last a long time, as he already has.
@@GrowmietheGreen thank you for your response, I do plan to quit the account after the next kvk because it has no future. so if you werent thinking about the future what would you run?r
@@icecube4030 no future? I’d say just go with the scipio/LC then. MB tried and true. It’s a clapper 🫵😎 if you have GOOD arch armaments, go with those. But if not, wedge is fine
Chadskii. If cavs get a commander that deal combo attacks with 25% chance or greater like Luiche, William might get a revival. Considering Lui che gave Alex a revival based on his instant proc. Williams instant proc might not be as good as Alex but the rest of his kit is pretty good. Also if he can get a museum buff maybe health who knows how good William will be in the future. One thing is for sure is to not invest in William, more for the people who already have, I have hope 😅
William would need a museum buff. Desperately. Just doesn't do enough damage and has no defensive stats. I can see the combo logic from William proc, but it is not near as potent as Alex's
@WarDaddyChadski i guess one way to test is to use a kvk artefact for William and put him behind Lui che and see what happens....has anyone tried this already?
So if I'm running nev/Joan now and I have a 5411 huo. Should I still max him?
I think eventually you want to max him. He will last longer than nevsky as more can commanders are coming out
@WarDaddyChadski ok sounds good.
I'm running nev/Joan, ww/lc, zl/herm, ragnar/scipio, and boudicca/ysg( normally gets benched first ha)
Pair Philip LC and Attila WW untill next smite aoe? Also if attila gets targeted for his age ww punishes them 👀
Yes I ran WW behind Atilla some in KvK and loved it.
Hello chadski thanks for the vidéo, i'm a mid spender with 2 inf marches, is ragnar P/scipi better than lc/alex in your opinion ?
Good question. I think LC with anyone is always going to be your best trading march. But My Ragnar/Scippy did almost as good as Liu/Alex
@@WarDaddyChadski and would you put ragnar primary or scipi ?
@@louismeurice6341 ragnar in my opinion for open field and scipio for canyon
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Can you run Phillip with non crit inf gear?
Sure. You can run him with any gear
Atilla still busted till this day fr
I totally agree with nev, he is falling off and Ragnar is op, he last longer on filed!
Advice for a new player on what to invest in? I am about 3 weeks from the end of kvk1 (aka in kvk1 right now)?
Particularly advice for upcoming kvk2 marches?
I am FTP, have Sun Tzu expertised, ethel 5523, YSG 4110, martel 4111. I was thinking some combo of those for next kvk?
Thank you!
I have a video for that.
@ thank you!
The nevsky slander tho :(
I dunno man, with equal gear, my nevsky still consistently outperforms my huo in the field.
Also william has additional instant proc, he does damage just fine.
The real answer is you just run 3 cav marches whenthe new comms come.
Yes three Cavs and you are set. Hahaha.
I tested Huo/Joan vs. Nevsky Joan. Ran them all day fighting and Huo/Joan consistently traded better.
@@WarDaddyChadski yeah that's probably true.
I guess you're right, cos since you can't run huo/joan and nev/joan at the same time, it always comes down to 2 march performance for me.
i find that nev/joan, huo/joan, and huo/william basically perform ballpark similar in the field, while other combinations such as nev/will are clearly worse, which does indicate huo to be the stronger primary.
personally, my 2 cav marches are still my best performing field marches so i'm not likely to bench anything from them any time soon ultimately.
the plan is to swap into beliP in jan, and then add it with the new field comm as a 3rd cav march in feb/march.
If new cav combo skill is like Sargon active skill where you need to stay connected I feel it’ll be worthless for field
Agreed
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Can you use the artifact on philip? For his second skill
I was wondering when he came out, that would be 35% atk, def and health
Ohhhhh Decent idea. But I don't think that works on Leadership coms
Of course huo John best cavalry I use both nevsky too 💪
Hi chad, i have two archer, zl+herman and body+ysg, what do u think if i swap boudy to ash, run with ysg behind?
That is a massive upgrade. Ash is soooooo good in the field and with YSG is damage crazy
@WarDaddyChadski okay, thanks chad
wait wait hermann primary ?
Hell yeah. Run Ash or YSG behind and see what you think'
Just buy the dailies, you got nothing to lose. At $5 a day for months. Seems like a lot to lose.
Stop ur coffee and get a few heads per day (1-2)🥲
Yeah I mean if you invest in axilla you have nothing to lose. He is going to be relevant for a while. And buying the dailies is a separate notion.
is iat worth swapping nevski for huo?
Absolutely not.
No not at all. You can still utilize Nevsky. Do not trade a commander you are utilizing for an upgrade if you can help it.
People having opposite experiences about Beli Prime.
You guys should start comparing apples to apples and say how many marches you run etc.
Maybe he's good with 6+ marches but bad with 3 marches or whatever.
Yeah it is just a matter of experience. Beli and the 12% debuff for any player running 5 marches is just insane. So good.
All those who invested in Sargon, "Bless your Heart". He is still a good swarmer but always has been meh for me
Hi pls make video about tier list delta formation
Broskii until we get a commander to put the Delta on, I cannot make a tier list. We must test first.
I don't get along well with Hermann
I been telling people how under rated beli is since the first day he was out. Everyone was so pissed,said he was trash. Complete aoe fanboys, not capable of actually evaluating commanders
you need 5 marches to swarm target for Beli prime expertise to work. Normal if you swarm with 5 marches, target still die, without beli expertise.
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I think Hermann Prime is mad overrated and the only reason he gets the fame he does is because archers choices right now are not stellar. All they have is ZL whos high damage but super boring and Mrs true damage who probably won't shine until the next archer cycle.
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