Sue Cook and Nick Ross present. Cases include a rape in West Kensington, the murder of George Leitch in Redhill, Kent and a wages robbery in Hull, Humberside
Thanks as always, Redcard74, you're the regular reliable one, the one who makes sure I DON'T have nightmares, and do sleep well......(not) keep up the excellent uploads.....😀😀😀😀👍👍👍
@@leval1000 Yes, he's excellent, along with another guy, can't remember his name, but he has plenty of crimewatch episodes posted up on his channel as well, there are so many episodes I hadn't seen, and so many crimes that are still unsolved, unto this day......
Good Evening Crimewatchers.Good Evening Red Card.Thanks as always for the upload.Time to put my feet up and enjoy tonight's episode !!! Have a great weekend one and all
The George Leitch case is a really strange reconstruction, I feel. The brother in law, and the man named Richard in his mothers house are portrayed pretty distant, and cold. Richard especially. It really seems deliberate. We see George 'embarrassing' him at squash, then when he visits his mum, the guy gives him proper daggers. Then when the cop is talking afterwards, he mentions its 'really strange he wasnt seen after Richard dropped him off, he was well known and should have been seen'. Are they intimating that Richard may have been lying? I started thinking 'time to sleep Roman, you're reading way too much into this'. Then I looked up the three men that were charged but released. One of them was named Richard. Theres also a load of stuff about dodgy cops, and the Masons. Oh, and the brother in laws car happened to be blue. Same as the paint found at the scene. This one is an absolute doozy.
Aladdin's Cave was very dull - but at the time, when I was watching alone in my bedroom as a youngster, it was always a welcome break for me ... I knew I could relax and wasn't going to be scared shitless for the next five minutes :)
This month, as we didn't get as many requests for appeals, we've been down to the BBC props department to find any old crap for Aladdin's cave. Basically raided the Lovejoy production set.
Love the still you've chosen for this episode! If you can, you should do my favourite next - the boy playing with the ball. You just know no shady business would go unnoticed with HIM around! 😃
Dandruff DNA nets robber 2004 A man was today jailed for 15 years for carrying out an armed robbery 11 years ago after dandruff linked him directly to the crime. Andrew Pearson, 40, of Gipsyville, Anlaby Road in Hull, and two other men escaped with £38,000 in cash after raiding a caravan company in the city in June 1993. The storyline was so irresistible that the advertising copywriters for Head & Shoulders anti-dandruff shampoo didn’t even need to sex it up. The half-page advertisement that appeared in papers across the UK simply reproduced a tear-out of an article about the 2004 court case, adding the slogan “Don’t get caught with dandruff.”😂😂
@gayham that doesn't seem his style. Napper was quite gratuitously violent and probably would have killed her. That guy seemed to be a controlled type of evil. Sounds like this guy had some links to the criminal underworld.
Evening everyone!! I was just going through looking for this episode (as I've been catching up for over a week) didn't have to wait long!! Thanks Redcard 74
4:18 Back in the days when you could freely use your mobile (or car phone as they were called then) at the wheel, they weren't considered dangerous and they would show someone doing that in a Crimewatch reconstruction and it wasn't the criminal.
@@Elmwood-ze3crNot sure that one fits tbh, mate. Just looked it up. Says he was found guilty for rapes between Jan 92 and Jan 93, but the featured case was in June 93. Also, it says he was only 14 years old at the time. But there was no mention of him being so young in the CW episode. Couldnt find mention of the Sondico GK shirt either in the article I found. Did they mention that element in the news update you watched?
George Leitch was a compassionet man who was a manager of Gossips winebar in gypsy hill in 1989. Gossips was a bit out of control with drunken punters. I believe it was running at a loss.1992 the premises was taken over by new management. By that time George was edgy like he was in fear of something. Bless George, kind man you will never be forgotten.
I think he came across as a nice bloke in the portrayal photos and home vid. At least the home vids are something for the family to hold onto, especially his daughter...
It does usually but there have been cases where it's done the opposite. I recently watched an episode on here of Medical Detectives or New Detectives or FBI Files lol one of those (I watch so many, they tend to merge 😉) the same thing happened. A man murdered his wife, used lime to speed it up but instead it preserved her perfectly!
Who started the famous do off at the venue The Bar - surely that was first place George would go after being dropped off, especially if he was organizing the Hen Night. Did he come into his brother in law's place to start evening off at any time that day? Surely his brother in law wondered where he was ? Did George go to the Bar after being dropped off or did he never turn up at all? The Brother in law didn't seem as frantic as George's partner re him not being around, or was George always doing things like this or not turning up till late and the Brother in law was used to it perhaps.
😂😅🤣 or he was on his way to appear on Stars in Their Eyes & snuck in a rape along the way!! 😅 Could you describe your attacker? Y'know he looked so much like John Lennon. Right ok...... (Traces John Lennon from his Imagine album). But he had scruffy blond hair. (Adds a bright yellow pineapple hair cut) How does this look? Omg that's him! 😅
29:15 Could you describe your attacker? Y'know he looked so much like John Lennon. Right ok...... (Traces John Lennon from his Imagine album). But he had scruffy blond hair. (Adds a bright yellow pineapple hair cut) How does this look? Omg that's him! 😅
AND AGAIN CRIMEWATCH BEGS FOR HELP IN THE MURDER OF GEORGE LEITCH BUT FORGETS DO MENTION HE IS A DRUG DEALER WITH A LONG HISTORY OF OFFENCES. Well the police are to blame really, but then again they actually fitted up one of their own for this murder, go check it out. I just hate how many details they would leave out, especially when it could help the investigation. And this is far from the first time they done this on the show.
Easy with hindsight of course, but if only poor 'Julie Smith' had said 'my husband' or similar when asked by the raping scumbag if anybody was home. His cowardly, weasly demeanour indicates he would probably have buggered off. But alas...hindsight a luxury we don't have.
@@AACE73I had a female passenger in my car about 20 years ago who said her husband/boyfriend was a policeman. I thought she was saying it as some sort of "threat" at the time - really put me off. Basically stopped doing favours for women not long after that. Bugger them.
Possibly it didn't cross her mind because this part of London isn't full of family homes but posh flats for single people working in well-paid jobs. It's west London bedsit-land, full of big houses converted into apartments. In 1991 houses were much cheaper than they are now and families who could afford to live there would buy a house in the suburbs.
Strange... Before it was a Sierra. Before that it was a Transit. Before that, an Escort. Then again, Fords are/were really simple to fix back in the day...
so companies used to pay wages in cash envelopes just like that? (Atlas Robbery) Seems strange to me and an obvious general security risk come pay day.
Yup, they did pay like that. People were often also paid weekly - I remember my dad telling me in the 80s how every week you were summoned to the office and had to count out the cash in your pay packet to check for errors. In some places, Men's wives used to wait outside the husband's work place on pay day, and Would take the pay packet off him to make sure he Didn't drink or gamble the money away. Absolutely unbelievable looking back, although that kind of thing was increasingly rare by the early 90s. Things were changing by the early 90s and a lot of companies were beginning to insist on paying to your bank account. Some people of the older generation then didn't have bank accounts (up until the early 70s, it was illegal to pay people in anything but cash, so people of a certain generation grew up having no direct need for bank accounts - cheques could also be cashed in shops. Also, up until around the late 1960s or so, banks charged for bank accounts and you were considered "posh" if you had one - there was a real class divide, so you had a whole older generation of people who had grown up having no contact at all with banks and unless you had a lot of money you didn't need one). The older generation often used to keep all their money in the house - absolutely asking for trouble. I remember my grandmother used to put her pay packet underneath the carpet. Insane.
@@zeddeka amazing response and insight - thank you very much 😊 had to laugh at the bit about wives waiting outside to save the day and about banks being “posh”… funny how things change and perhaps even more so how some things don’t 🙂
@@b1ueocean no problem! It's unbelievable looking back. My dad still moans to this day about how things were "better then" being paid in cash coz you "knew where you stood". Fairly baffling for anyone younger! I remember everything being paid in cash too in the early 80s. My parents used to spend saturdays on the high street going round various shops paying bills in cash. Maybe one of the reasons why the high street declined - no need to do that these days. Society was so different then, and the 90s were really only the very start of the modern world we live in now, when technology started to change things. You're absolutely right though to say how dangerous all that being paid in cash was - it's one of the reasons violent crime is lower now - so much less cash floating round the system. In the 1970s there were a couple of very high profile armed raids where the payrolls of large companies were stolen on payday - the Daily Mirror and Daily Express newspapers were targets. There was suspicion that corrupt police had been involved.
That George Leitch murder doesn’t make no sense. “Whoever killed him probably needed help” yet the detective after the reconstruction says there’s 2 people involved. He tried to stop drug dealing in his own bar and it got smashed up and was in financial difficulties. Then he disappears only 100 yds from his brother in law’s pub?
Apparently three men were charged and remanded in custody before the charges were dismissed. it is bizarre that no one on the high Street would remember seeing him.
Its also a really strange reconstruction, I feel. The brother in law, and the man named Richard in his mothers house are portrayed pretty distant, and cold. Richard especially. We see George 'embarrassing' him at squash, then when he visits his mum, the guy gives him proper daggers. I was thinking 'time to sleep Roman, you're reading way too much into this'. Then I looked up the three men that were charged but released. One of them was named Richard. Theres also a load of stuff about dodgy cops, and the Masons. This one is an absolute dozy.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 no many were taken over by rivals then branches closed. Bradford and Bingley, Friends Provident, Alliance and Leicester, RBS, Midland Bank, there are absolutely loooads of building societies that no longer exist.
Well, that receptionist didn't know much about guns did she? Also lol at wasn't scared of that but of the baseball bat, even if the gun was fake if he hits you with it that wouldn't be very nice.
That first reconstruction… that woman did everything that she shouldn’t have done tbh. When he asked who was in her flat she should have said my husband, father etc. She should have screamed in the hall there, people would have came out the flats to investigate. Bang on neighbours doors on way up to her flat, being as loud as possible. He surely would have got spooked and ran off then?
With hindsight you can say lots of other things would have been better but it's difficult to just make things up on the spur of the moment whilst frozen with fear. If I was thinking straight, I probably would have said "My husband, he's a policeman, & our two Doberman dogs" 😉 Edit to say: At least watching these makes one think about ways to react in similar circumstances. They might just come in handy one day.
@@katiebear you don't really know what you'd do if a knife was being pointed at you. You'd go into shock and may well do whatever you could to make sure the sharp end isn't squeezed any tighter into you, which could have happened had she not cooperated and she might not have been found for days.
@LANCSKID Yes, of course. I'm sure that the Detective Jacqui Hames of 1993 is waiting for you. I'll politely wait until you have shown her - via some form of time travel - the absolutely unforgettable time of her life. I'll have to step up my game, of course, if I am to match the level of scintillating conversation you were able to provide her - a mixture of your wit, funny anecdotes and no doubt your innovative suggestions for modern policing in the early 90s and your repeated questioning as to 'what's it like being a woman on the police force?'. If all this, combined with your natural charm and Janet Frazer catalogue model good looks wasn't enough to make her standard police issue underwear eagerly fall from her body - a body at this stage no doubt experiencing sensations and desires never before felt with mere mortal men, then you could always resort to your usual tactics with 'tricky' members of the opposite sex - passive aggressive verbal bullying, gaslighting, implied violence, the surreptitious use of GHB in her drink or just a good old fashioned slap to show who is in the driving seat. So sure, I'll just wait in 'the queue' until you've dipped into your generally successful repertoire - yet another triumph for you in your ongoing conquest against women. Bravo!
@@user-zr3pj5tk7k average presenter ? She was amazing on Crimewatch UK. The pace and detail were amazing and what made the programme so great. Never liked any of the others after her.
In the last reconstruction they describe the leader of the gang as large with a very mauscular build who's going a bit to sea with a beer belly???? what is that???? and the witness saying that same man was more frightened than she was?? what with a shotgun in his hands and 2 friend's with hand guns?. no love I really don't think they were. I hope people are not still as dumb up there.
It's amazing how many of us were teenagers watching this lol
Literally it amazes me how our parents didn’t seem to care what we watched back then Xx
Try 9 Yrs old 😅😅
Thanks as always, Redcard74, you're the regular reliable one, the one who makes sure I DON'T have nightmares, and do sleep well......(not) keep up the excellent uploads.....😀😀😀😀👍👍👍
Eddie Edwards Andy JS is good too. I highly recommend him.
@@leval1000 Yes, he's excellent, along with another guy, can't remember his name, but he has plenty of crimewatch episodes posted up on his channel as well, there are so many episodes I hadn't seen, and so many crimes that are still unsolved, unto this day......
Good Evening Crimewatchers.Good Evening Red Card.Thanks as always for the upload.Time to put my feet up and enjoy tonight's episode !!! Have a great weekend one and all
The George Leitch case is a really strange reconstruction, I feel. The brother in law, and the man named Richard in his mothers house are portrayed pretty distant, and cold. Richard especially. It really seems deliberate.
We see George 'embarrassing' him at squash, then when he visits his mum, the guy gives him proper daggers. Then when the cop is talking afterwards, he mentions its 'really strange he wasnt seen after Richard dropped him off, he was well known and should have been seen'. Are they intimating that Richard may have been lying? I started thinking 'time to sleep Roman, you're reading way too much into this'. Then I looked up the three men that were charged but released. One of them was named Richard. Theres also a load of stuff about dodgy cops, and the Masons. Oh, and the brother in laws car happened to be blue. Same as the paint found at the scene.
This one is an absolute doozy.
Thought exactly the same thing 👍🏻
Dodgingtons
12:59 See they caught Tobin quickly .Pity he got out eventually
I notice David Hatcher has stopped saying mustosh and now says mustash.
Cringed when he said mustosh lol
Haaaa great detective work. It is mustosh though.....😅
Haha I noticed that too. Maybe the BBC had words
I dislike whoever raised the issue of his pronunciation with him and made him change it.
He still lets it slip out every now & now.
Aladdin's Cave was very dull - but at the time, when I was watching alone in my bedroom as a youngster, it was always a welcome break for me ... I knew I could relax and wasn't going to be scared shitless for the next five minutes :)
Yeah i agree. Sometimes you could do with a bit of light relief.
It gave one sufficient time to evacuate ones bowels ahead of the final, grim run-in.
Simon Pitt 😂
This has just made me piss ha ha Exactly how I felt with Aladdins Cave ha
So right.
I only watch these during the day. When I watched in the evening I used to keep waking up at the slightest noise
Same here. Makes me twitchy.
You did have nightmares, you didn’t sleep well.
Yasss was about to turn in and then this popped up. Loving your work
This month, as we didn't get as many requests for appeals, we've been down to the BBC props department to find any old crap for Aladdin's cave.
Basically raided the Lovejoy production set.
Lol
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Twelve bore shotgun cartridge followed by mega bore … Eric Knowitall.
Love the still you've chosen for this episode! If you can, you should do my favourite next - the boy playing with the ball. You just know no shady business would go unnoticed with HIM around! 😃
X
Evening gang! Happy weekend to you all
Food shopping twice a YEAR?! Wtf.
Looked quite wealthy. Probably ate out a lot
This episode sparked an old memory .It was George leitch being buried under that lime that stuck in my mind at the time
Thank you for your continued service Redcard - hope you have a good weekend! BTW, I think this episode features Sue's worst hairdo.
Omg was JUST going to say that!!!!!
Very true, and she had such a great look in the 1991 episodes (hair wise) especially
Brendan Meskell the short style didn’t really suit her.
@@Lushgirl81 I agree, it makes her face look hard.
👍🤣🤣
Farouk Nasri in October 1993 and his son Fadi Nasri in May 2006!
Sound like a wonderful family...
Dandruff DNA nets robber
2004
A man was today jailed for 15 years for carrying out an armed robbery 11 years ago after dandruff linked him directly to the crime.
Andrew Pearson, 40, of Gipsyville, Anlaby Road in Hull, and two other men escaped with £38,000 in cash after raiding a caravan company in the city in June 1993.
The storyline was so irresistible that the advertising copywriters for Head & Shoulders anti-dandruff shampoo didn’t even need to sex it up. The half-page advertisement that appeared in papers across the UK simply reproduced a tear-out of an article about the 2004 court case, adding the slogan “Don’t get caught with dandruff.”😂😂
That reconstruction of the woman robbed and sexually attacked in her flat by that bloke really gave me nightmares as a kid. Was he ever caught?
I wonder if it was Robert Napper? He did that a lot before he started to kill?
@gayham that doesn't seem his style. Napper was quite gratuitously violent and probably would have killed her. That guy seemed to be a controlled type of evil. Sounds like this guy had some links to the criminal underworld.
@@gayham Looked more like Barry Foster
@@tomgraham6071 Way too old for Napper as well-this guy was about 15 years older than him.
Not the first time that CWUK have used the name "Julie Smith" for someone who didn't want to be identified
futureisgosub I suppose it's the female equivalent of John Smith - completely generic
They often used the name ‘Sarah’ for some inexplicable reason. Why not Gertrude?
38.06 going a little bit to seed with a beer belly! 🤣😂
13:15 Justin Martin Clarke was only caught in 2018 after fleeing abroad. Now serving a life sentence
She goes shopping twice a year 😂😂 Wish I could.
That amazed even me! I've always hated shopping so I'm very thankful for the internet shopping. I haven't entered a shop in years now! 😂
Evening everyone!! I was just going through looking for this episode (as I've been catching up for over a week) didn't have to wait long!! Thanks Redcard 74
THANKS REDCARD KEEP UPLOADS COMING YOU AND ANDY; J,S ARE GODS
I completely forgot about the pub robbery in Stirling as it was someone I knew who ran it and lived above it.
Linda Grace Watson is that pub now the Brewers Fayre next to the Premier Inn ?
4:18 Back in the days when you could freely use your mobile (or car phone as they were called then) at the wheel, they weren't considered dangerous and they would show someone doing that in a Crimewatch reconstruction and it wasn't the criminal.
That's all u need when your doing a move on the getaway is to be stuck behind a learner lol
That, and dandruff.....! lol
@@FOREIGNSLOTMANIAC … and your bali on the wrong way round.
It's typical 😊
13:25 I like how Nick, goes to call Jackie, Hattie James, then sort of laughs about it. Also David, bumbling at 30:00 until 30:09
Hackie James 😆
Hatchet-Job bumbling? Surely not …
The rapist from Darlington with the goalkeepers shirt was caught and jailed , not sure of his name or sentence
How do you know this? Regards.
@@bennym5244 It was on the local news in the North East think it was a lad called Mark Sandford and got 4 years
I wonder how he got caught ?
@@Elmwood-ze3crNot sure that one fits tbh, mate. Just looked it up. Says he was found guilty for rapes between Jan 92 and Jan 93, but the featured case was in June 93. Also, it says he was only 14 years old at the time. But there was no mention of him being so young in the CW episode. Couldnt find mention of the Sondico GK shirt either in the article I found. Did they mention that element in the news update you watched?
@@Romanplaystation Im sure ive got it right BUT i might be slightly off target , i,ll have to get my Detective Head on ha ha
George Leitch was a compassionet man who was a manager of Gossips winebar in gypsy hill in 1989.
Gossips was a bit out of control with drunken punters.
I believe it was running at a loss.1992 the premises was taken over by new management.
By that time George was edgy like he was in fear of something.
Bless George, kind man you will never be forgotten.
unsolved Still
I think he came across as a nice bloke in the portrayal photos and home vid. At least the home vids are something for the family to hold onto, especially his daughter...
Maybe his wife had a hit man kill him
@@christinematthews330 They were in debt. Did she benefit from his death?
I'm guessing he had some debts with non financial institutions and the creditors killed him
In this edition Susie goes all Lady Di … as did so many of my mistresses at that time. Lovely.
FYI, 13:00 was Peter Tobin
29:01 - You'd think if you were going to carry out an awful assault on someone you'd both dress and groom yourself a little more inconspicuously.
A man with long blonde hair and gold rimmed glasses and a green jacket 🤦🏻♂️ he must have got caught
I wonder if these uploads will lead to any new evidence etc
Let's hope so
28:51 looks more like Shirley from eastenders
I thought it was John Lennon
Poor woman.
Thats one driving lesson that woman will not forget
how did the lime preserve the body? isnt it supposed to do the opposite?
No
It does usually but there have been cases where it's done the opposite. I recently watched an episode on here of Medical Detectives or New Detectives or FBI Files lol one of those (I watch so many, they tend to merge 😉) the same thing happened. A man murdered his wife, used lime to speed it up but instead it preserved her perfectly!
13:14 the beastie boyz
“A mound of white powder…” I had better tell my mate, Nozza.
Was that Paul o grady doing the jokes in the bar pub? George leitch
Lol Nope!
Paul o Grady from wish.
@@golgotha3938 🤣 Paul O'Grady On a Wish or Temu Budget 🤣 That guy "wished" he was Paul O'Grady! 😉
@@AACE73 It was my mate, Wonk’s Dad before he had the operation.
Who started the famous do off at the venue The Bar - surely that was first place George would go after being dropped off, especially if he was organizing the Hen Night. Did he come into his brother in law's place to start evening off at any time that day? Surely his brother in law wondered where he was ? Did George go to the Bar after being dropped off or did he never turn up at all? The Brother in law didn't seem as frantic as George's partner re him not being around, or was George always doing things like this or not turning up till late and the Brother in law was used to it perhaps.
29.15..is that John Lennon in a blonde wig?? 🤣🤣🤣
Ffs looool
@@daniellebishop5599 😅😅😅
Or is it shirley from eastenders and hers wearin her sexy specs
@@daniellebishop5599 Dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😅🤣 or he was on his way to appear on Stars in Their Eyes & snuck in a rape along the way!! 😅
Could you describe your attacker?
Y'know he looked so much like John Lennon.
Right ok...... (Traces John Lennon from his Imagine album).
But he had scruffy blond hair.
(Adds a bright yellow pineapple hair cut)
How does this look?
Omg that's him!
😅
Ughh...Aladdin‘s Cave is back.
I always skip it mate
Slow crime month.
I hate it!!
It's always full of old junk....
It really boils my piss.
'it was the baseball bat that i knew was real' haha >
So, what was the gun … only a f**king cardboard cut-out?
When did Hatcher stop saying moostosh and start saying moostash?
About 1992.
@@RogerJJSmith love it how' we're all so obsessed with this
A few shows back. But he still slipped up now n then! 😅
@@AACE73You are still referring to his ‘night stick’?
They caught one of the atlas caravan robbers through dna from his dandruff :)
He should have used Head And Shoulders.
What was his little black hat he was wearing at 35:40? Or did wardrobe leave it on top of the wig?
@@bennym5244 wtf is that thing on his head. Good spot
Evening all!
Cheers for these mate
29:15
Could you describe your attacker?
Y'know he looked so much like John Lennon.
Right ok...... (Traces John Lennon from his Imagine album).
But he had scruffy blond hair.
(Adds a bright yellow pineapple hair cut)
How does this look?
Omg that's him!
😅
wage packets still in 1993, pretty sure most wages were paid in your account by then.
Trab Ali depends on the company I think. I had a job in 1998 that still paid by cheque!
I worked in a supermarket in '93/94.. little brown envelope, best days
@@Darlingnikki84 I worked for gateways in 93-94 and got paid into my account, but i do believe some companies still paid cash till the late 90s!
I had a little brown envelope in 98
I was paid in cash in a brown envelope up until 2017.
AND AGAIN CRIMEWATCH BEGS FOR HELP IN THE MURDER OF GEORGE LEITCH BUT FORGETS DO MENTION HE IS A DRUG DEALER WITH A LONG HISTORY OF OFFENCES. Well the police are to blame really, but then again they actually fitted up one of their own for this murder, go check it out. I just hate how many details they would leave out, especially when it could help the investigation. And this is far from the first time they done this on the show.
Easy with hindsight of course, but if only poor 'Julie Smith' had said 'my husband' or similar when asked by the raping scumbag if anybody was home. His cowardly, weasly demeanour indicates he would probably have buggered off. But alas...hindsight a luxury we don't have.
Exactly. I know now if that ever happened to me, I'd say my husband who is a policeman & our two Doberman dogs! 😉
@@AACE73I had a female passenger in my car about 20 years ago who said her husband/boyfriend was a policeman.
I thought she was saying it as some sort of "threat" at the time - really put me off.
Basically stopped doing favours for women not long after that.
Bugger them.
Possibly it didn't cross her mind because this part of London isn't full of family homes but posh flats for single people working in well-paid jobs. It's west London bedsit-land, full of big houses converted into apartments. In 1991 houses were much cheaper than they are now and families who could afford to live there would buy a house in the suburbs.
Ong the photo fit on the first reconstruction looks like Mick Hucknall (simply red)...
1st cheers RedCard74! Evening everyone!
Omg I did a temporary assignment job placement at ATLAS in December.
Did you paid in cash in one of those nice, handy little envelopes?
Always a cavalier used as the getaway car
Strange...
Before it was a Sierra.
Before that it was a Transit.
Before that, an Escort.
Then again, Fords are/were really simple to fix back in the day...
Cortina, Sierra and Traarnsit (as CSI David likes to say) and Rovers were more common until the late 90s
Trabant is my favourite.
Is THIS the point where David Hatcher switched from ‘Mous-tosh’ to ‘mous-tache’? Call us if you can help.
That was a few shows back. He slipped up every now n then though!
@@AACE73You are obsessed with his truncheon., aren’t you?
George used to hang out in a bar called the bar-how imaginative.
It says he helped set it up with his brother in law...
Tut tut talking on mobile while driving 😂😂😂😂
Was no law against it back then. That's what they were for.
@@gujh03 lol alright officer calm doon
@@colincampbell815 no worries captain.
so companies used to pay wages in cash envelopes just like that? (Atlas Robbery)
Seems strange to me and an obvious general security risk come pay day.
Yes they did
Yup, they did pay like that. People were often also paid weekly - I remember my dad telling me in the 80s how every week you were summoned to the office and had to count out the cash in your pay packet to check for errors. In some places, Men's wives used to wait outside the husband's work place on pay day, and Would take the pay packet off him to make sure he Didn't drink or gamble the money away. Absolutely unbelievable looking back, although that kind of thing was increasingly rare by the early 90s. Things were changing by the early 90s and a lot of companies were beginning to insist on paying to your bank account. Some people of the older generation then didn't have bank accounts (up until the early 70s, it was illegal to pay people in anything but cash, so people of a certain generation grew up having no direct need for bank accounts - cheques could also be cashed in shops. Also, up until around the late 1960s or so, banks charged for bank accounts and you were considered "posh" if you had one - there was a real class divide, so you had a whole older generation of people who had grown up having no contact at all with banks and unless you had a lot of money you didn't need one). The older generation often used to keep all their money in the house - absolutely asking for trouble. I remember my grandmother used to put her pay packet underneath the carpet. Insane.
@@zeddeka amazing response and insight - thank you very much 😊
had to laugh at the bit about wives waiting outside to save the day and about banks being “posh”… funny how things change and perhaps even more so how some things don’t 🙂
@@b1ueocean no problem! It's unbelievable looking back. My dad still moans to this day about how things were "better then" being paid in cash coz you "knew where you stood". Fairly baffling for anyone younger! I remember everything being paid in cash too in the early 80s. My parents used to spend saturdays on the high street going round various shops paying bills in cash. Maybe one of the reasons why the high street declined - no need to do that these days. Society was so different then, and the 90s were really only the very start of the modern world we live in now, when technology started to change things. You're absolutely right though to say how dangerous all that being paid in cash was - it's one of the reasons violent crime is lower now - so much less cash floating round the system. In the 1970s there were a couple of very high profile armed raids where the payrolls of large companies were stolen on payday - the Daily Mirror and Daily Express newspapers were targets. There was suspicion that corrupt police had been involved.
@@zeddeka my mum worked in the "cash office" at our local Asda until about 93 ish, they still paid in cash then
Videofit t at 29:00 looks like that Jewellery robbery in 1994 tho I think his hair was a wig .
Malcom Eynon announcing
That George Leitch murder doesn’t make no sense. “Whoever killed him probably needed help” yet the detective after the reconstruction says there’s 2 people involved. He tried to stop drug dealing in his own bar and it got smashed up and was in financial difficulties. Then he disappears only 100 yds from his brother in law’s pub?
Apparently three men were charged and remanded in custody before the charges were dismissed. it is bizarre that no one on the high Street would remember seeing him.
Whoever kills needs help
.......deep psychiatric help!
@@meskbren I wonder if they know and are too scared to come forward.
Its also a really strange reconstruction, I feel. The brother in law, and the man named Richard in his mothers house are portrayed pretty distant, and cold. Richard especially.
We see George 'embarrassing' him at squash, then when he visits his mum, the guy gives him proper daggers. I was thinking 'time to sleep Roman, you're reading way too much into this'. Then I looked up the three men that were charged but released. One of them was named Richard. Theres also a load of stuff about dodgy cops, and the Masons.
This one is an absolute dozy.
The pub in the George Leitch murder is now called the George Inn. (According to Google Street view) I guess the family kept hold of it
Do you mean the former place called The Bar?
@@IanP1963 yes unless I'm mistaken?
@@rs-vp7re A very sad and mysterious case !!
Thats not the george inn …. The george inn has been a pub and still is in beckenham been there for a long long time
Half these banks & Building societies
don't exist anymore!
You sound surprised? It was nearly 30 years ago - a long time ago. Things change.
@@zeddeka 28 at the moment
A lot of the shops you see in the high streets don't exist either.
Lots of high street names gone. My first bank was The Midland Bank and the name got changed to HSBC around about 1997/8
@@treasurehunteruk9718 no many were taken over by rivals then branches closed. Bradford and Bingley, Friends Provident, Alliance and Leicester, RBS, Midland Bank, there are absolutely loooads of building societies that no longer exist.
Have they found George Leitch's killer?
I know comedy is subjective but I couldn't figure out the stand-up routine punchlines at all.
Redhill is Surrey not kent
Ask Bono.
£350 for a watch in 1993 is £900 now!
Thanks
good work
36.54
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Last know V5 issued 23rd June 2004.I had a 1995 Black SRi 16v now that was a fun car ❤
Thanks Redcard I'm sure your telephatic 😀
Must be loads of people that know the attacker from the shirt. Disgusting that none of them have come forward. Shame on them! 🤬
Why does everyone in the 80s/90s have a pockmarked face?
less treatments for ache and shit, compared to now i suppose. lots suffered with pockmarks in the 20th century
Maybe cheap aftershave
They were poor darts players.
Could the first rape be Robert Napper? It was during his spree and does have all the hallmarks.
They could match his DNA if it was.
Or was it the guy they found recently. Who had a fetish about dead bodies.
Napper was about 6ft2 - 6ft3. The rapist was described as being 5ft7. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t him.
No, Napper wasn't known for targeting wealthy women or stealing expensive jewellery. He mostly went after women and girls in south-east London.
@@gujh03 Wasn't that in Tunbridge Wells?
Darlingtons goalkeeper got away with it.
Nah, it was the kit man. That's why the keeper had to play in his vest that Saturday.
28:53 - John Lennon! 😂
29.13 looks like sue pollard in drag 😂😂
james c I thought Sue Pollard was a bloke anyway 😆
Looked like good entertainment
I like to 36:41, 36:41
Well, that receptionist didn't know much about guns did she? Also lol at wasn't scared of that but of the baseball bat, even if the gun was fake if he hits you with it that wouldn't be very nice.
Cracking work Redcard
That first reconstruction… that woman did everything that she shouldn’t have done tbh. When he asked who was in her flat she should have said my husband, father etc. She should have screamed in the hall there, people would have came out the flats to investigate. Bang on neighbours doors on way up to her flat, being as loud as possible. He surely would have got spooked and ran off then?
Agreed but if a knife is waving in front of you the situation takes on a new dimension
@@f32440i So true Machiavelli. You never really know how you'd react - especially when you're at the mercy of someone with a weapon.
Strange for a jeweller in Hatton garden not to have cctv? Also jewellers usually wear white gloves too so the cops should have lifted a finger print?
With hindsight you can say lots of other things would have been better but it's difficult to just make things up on the spur of the moment whilst frozen with fear. If I was thinking straight, I probably would have said "My husband, he's a policeman, & our two Doberman dogs" 😉
Edit to say: At least watching these makes one think about ways to react in similar circumstances. They might just come in handy one day.
@@katiebear you don't really know what you'd do if a knife was being pointed at you. You'd go into shock and may well do whatever you could to make sure the sharp end isn't squeezed any tighter into you, which could have happened had she not cooperated and she might not have been found for days.
Redhill is surrey not kent
Wow
Dc Jaqui is gorgeous. I wouldn't mind her tackling me and using those cuffs
She still is, she is on twitter!!
mr mike very much so - lovely lady
Super fit! Copper's uniform helps as well. Very attractive lady in a mumsy, wouldn't mind 'knocking the neighbour off' sort of way.......
@@gargantukPlease get in the queue, matey.
@LANCSKID Yes, of course. I'm sure that the Detective Jacqui Hames of 1993 is waiting for you. I'll politely wait until you have shown her - via some form of time travel - the absolutely unforgettable time of her life. I'll have to step up my game, of course, if I am to match the level of scintillating conversation you were able to provide her - a mixture of your wit, funny anecdotes and no doubt your innovative suggestions for modern policing in the early 90s and your repeated questioning as to 'what's it like being a woman on the police force?'. If all this, combined with your natural charm and Janet Frazer catalogue model good looks wasn't enough to make her standard police issue underwear eagerly fall from her body - a body at this stage no doubt experiencing sensations and desires never before felt with mere mortal men, then you could always resort to your usual tactics with 'tricky' members of the opposite sex - passive aggressive verbal bullying, gaslighting, implied violence, the surreptitious use of GHB in her drink or just a good old fashioned slap to show who is in the driving seat. So sure, I'll just wait in 'the queue' until you've dipped into your generally successful repertoire - yet another triumph for you in your ongoing conquest against women. Bravo!
Wow alot of cctv was black and white in 93
Yet no cctv even in Hatton garden at the time?
There were still black and white televisions around that time and you could pay a cheaper rate for your licence if you had one.
@@gujh03still can
First case its willy wonka
26:45 Has Hatchet-Job been on the sauce, again?
Sue is starting to look a bit ropey now. Especially the hair. Not her best look.
She was 44, so the years were catching up.
Never got the obsession with her. Plain looking, desperately changing her looks. An average presenter, as well.
@@user-zr3pj5tk7k average presenter ? She was amazing on Crimewatch UK. The pace and detail were amazing and what made the programme so great. Never liked any of the others after her.
When a woman cuts her hair short she’s given up. Her husband probably wasn’t getting any either.
She is gorgeous. Anyone who says otherwise will have me to answer to. A very gracious woman.
The actor playing George lietch is awful.
In the last reconstruction they describe the leader of the gang as large with a very mauscular build who's going a bit to sea with a beer belly???? what is that???? and the witness saying that same man was more frightened than she was?? what with a shotgun in his hands and 2 friend's with hand guns?. no love I really don't think they were. I hope people are not still as dumb up there.
28.53 eek creepy photofit
i wasnt prepared for that one!
Looks like the lovechild of Trevor Horn & Geoffrey Wansell
I used to cover my eyes when they came up, n my older brothers n mum would tell me when they had gone
Jesus! Blonde Lennon
I deffo recognise one of the guys in the robbery reconstruction..ive seen him on the tele..this must have been before then.has he been caught?😂😂😂
Going to seed lmao