Great video. I have no chrony. And am always glad about such videos from a reliable source. Thank you for your work The results also coincide with the experiences I have made.
And not only the final draw force is, what counts, but the elongation-force chart. The area below the chart is the energy we invested into the draw. This will accelerate the ball.
Nice weather there in Alabama. Terrific video with loads of useful info. I make up bands with all types of materials including the Golds Gym stuff, but not having a chrony, I don't really know what kind of velocity I'm getting.. You can tell though when you have a good combo of band material, taper and ammo cause you get a lot of zip and hitting power. Love that zip!
Very informative video.Dan lots of people including myself sometimes use the #107 rubber bands. The regular band using 1 band per side and the pale crepe gold using 2 bands per side both cut to 9 to 9.5" active. The one with 2 bands per side will have pseudo taper at the fork if you overlap them correctly. Have you ever tested these. They are very easy to use cause you don't have to cut them. They seem pretty fast to me at around 40" draw.
I have been testing several different types of bands myself as everyone has different opinions, my results are always the same , I'm not saying there right but they are for me , firstly I've found the GZK stiff gives move hand slaps ,and tends to come out of the wrap and tuck after a while I got the band's from eBay so not my wraps , GZK I dont like it .TB gold is very good as everyone knows I like that, But for me Double silver TB from 30mm to 25mm is the best seems to last longer ,it's faster and I hit the spinner far more times, So for me Double silver TB is a clear winner, Nice clip by the way
That chrony should go into decimal places for a better reading. 1 meter is almost 3 feet so in the conversion it will make a significant difference when averaging the 3 shots.
A very interesting video Cheers Dan. I use .8 Snipersling black from China with 3/8 Steel. I cut my Bands at 30mm to 20mm with about 7inch active Band length I get great speeds and its hard hitting But the Bands don't last at all long as they snap pretty regularly unfortunately
you probably are over powering the ammo. that a monster bandset for 3/8. if you upped the ammo to 7/16 or even 1/2 your bands could last longer i bet. and also could be your tying method with how tight you tie the pouch on the latex etc. alot of factors can go into what causes frequent breakage.
@@richyoung4051 Tying the pouch is definitely a factor! .Have got to be very careful not to overtighten the band im attaching etc ..But i am finding recently that the. 8 Green Snipersling is working well for me and Although some would say that I am using too much Elastic for 3/8 Soft Steel Bearings i would say that i get a Damn Good Wallop to All that i hit and easily punch straight through a Baked Bean tin at 25 yards and to my mind thats ok for an Elastic Band and a Tree Branch!😆
I shoot double and triple layer bands made with Theraband Blue to specifications from 1611torsten's RUclips channel. They are very zippy, but have a relative short life span. It was fun to experiment with them though.
I even made a replacement spaz 12 sho gun i shoot like 4or 5 steelies at once shit is bad ass the paint job on the spaz 12 is coller than most crappy ppl t making on the net
Hey Dan when or will we get an update on bands With all the new bands some are pretty heavy duty nowadays but do they last as long as the next What about the quality of some etc.This is still a great video either way💯👍
The Problem is you have not indicated the thickness of the band. GZK comes in everything from .54- 1.2 depending which color you choose. Was the Black a .54, .62, .72, .80, or even more out of the norm? Same with several of the other bands? .54 is not apples to apples to .80. This would be even more telling.
At the time this was made there were not a lot of different widths available. Gzk was .70 standard which is the same as all the other widths in the test with the exception of 40 latex
thanks for this. nice to see real side by side comparisons. would be interesting to see the same with each firing lighter and heavier ammo. 1 gram mud 3.5 gram steel and 5.4 gram lead. (all in the 9-10mm). would be a 'better' test of band bound, or am i thinking too much?
Very informative. If you had a 30 inch draw length and bands 6 inches long, how does velocity compare to 42 inch a 8.5 inch bands? Just getting started and wondering which style draw to learn, accuracy vs velocity. Thanks again
You will get a small increase in velocity with a longer draw but not enough to sacrifice accuracy. Decide which style your most accurate with and you can always adjust your band size and taper with ammo size to get your desires velocity.
3/8 inch steel ball is around 3.55 grams, let's say it is going 80m/s(262 ft/s) it is just over 11 joules of energy. It is not very impressive to be honest.
@Ford Prefect I don't even use theraband gold anymore...Iike Precise latex or Snipersling latex...it lasts much longer and performs better...especially in cold weather. I hunt all year round in Canada during the coldest winter days...the bands barely slow down. No need to keep them inside my jacket like I had to with TBG
@Ford Prefect the Precise and Snipersling is even more faster in the summer heat. I get 300+fps with 3/8 steel with .70....only get about 260fps with the same cut TBG...and thats with my old stock TBG before they changed the formula. Dan does a video on comparing the new Chinese latex to the current TBG...he says it is garbage
Hey Dan . Did you break in all the band sets with a least 20 shots to get a true side by side comparison ? The latex doesn't shoot optimal until its pre-streched at least 20 times as compared to a stiff fresh set .
treefork100 all were shot way over 20 times but some much more than others. the 40 latex is an old set as was the gum rubber. the results really only apply to this certain taper at my draw length at my house with me shooting..so take it with a grain of salt but i did find it interesting that they were all very close..
Wanna get some real speed use a crutch as your frame drill out the studs holding it together but leave the one all the way st the bottom and flip the bottom part around makes it like a ft. Longer I use the whole crutch I'm using 2 __3ft long loops like the medium weight there dark greenvgot them at dunhams i sit n a stoil and can draw back past the butt of the crutch I gotta b shooting well over 400 cuz I have a real pocket shit and I'm blowing that out of the water, I shot a hole threw a concrete wall in my basement with a split shot for fishing it bounced up under the floor in my living room I have an archery and sling shot range in my basement I also have a tubular plastic pipe rod holder for the ocean I rigged up with a 8 in long 2 wide PC of the lightest bands and mounted it to a pallet facing vertical I even can put a whiskey biscuit in and shoot carbon arrows, only thing thats gonna come close to what im doin wud b dankung chinese tubes give it s shot super super fast
Interesting, but not really useful test. It is obvious, that stronger band achieves higher speed. So, if we are looking for the best material, then we have to cut and compare same force bandsets. This test shows us, what happens if you cut same dimension sets from different materials.
This is how a test of bands should be done. Very thorough. The best I've seen Dan. Thanks
Great video.
I have no chrony. And am always glad about such videos from a reliable source.
Thank you for your work
The results also coincide with the experiences I have made.
would love to see more videos like this. that compares products over a chrony. you're the Man, Dan! thank you.
Great video mate. Just seen some other video beating on theraband gold. Your test proves its still a very viable choice. Good info well done.
Great informative video, Dan. Thank you.
Also it should be intresting to know the draw weight of each bandset so we could know the real efficiency.
And not only the final draw force is, what counts, but the elongation-force chart. The area below the chart is the energy we invested into the draw. This will accelerate the ball.
Word cant describe how much i appreciate this video, brother.
A big Ebear hug to you for doing this. GREAT JOB!
Slingshots are hella underrated
Radical Edwards yup
I got the same metal sling shot with the skull and gzk normal bands, great slingshot. Awesome test,s
Nice weather there in Alabama. Terrific video with loads of useful info. I make up bands with all types of materials including the Golds Gym stuff, but not having a chrony, I don't really know what kind of velocity I'm getting.. You can tell though when you have a good combo of band material, taper and ammo cause you get a lot of zip and hitting power. Love that zip!
Thanks for watching Ronnie
@@danshootsslingshots1261 how much do those 3/8 BBs weigh?
This is one of the first videos I watched when I started.
Thanks for taking the time to create and share
excellent video Dan
Thanks for the video!
I am glad the chrony was stuck to m/s :D
Greetings from Germany
Very good video! Thank you for sharing!
Very nice test. Thank you for sharing with us !!!
40 latex ye ah with 1/2 steel glad I bought last few rolls bands last forever even the ones with the white spot faults can't beat it
brilliant video. great information. thanks bro
Very informative video.Dan lots of people including myself sometimes use the #107 rubber bands. The regular band using 1 band per side and the pale crepe gold using 2 bands per side both cut to 9 to 9.5" active. The one with 2 bands per side will have pseudo taper at the fork if you overlap them correctly. Have you ever tested these. They are very easy to use cause you don't have to cut them. They seem pretty fast to me at around 40" draw.
Thanks for such amazing information! Very illustrative and helpful! Hope you could do the same with dankung tubes. Cheers!
Resorteras Bat I do need to do a tube speed test. there's not that many different types of tubes in similar sizes but still would be fun to test a few
Slingshot Dan Ambrosius Yes! ir would be fun and interesting to see speeds, effective shooting distances, durability, etc. Cheers!
I have been testing several different types of bands myself as everyone has different opinions, my results are always the same , I'm not saying there right but they are for me , firstly I've found the GZK stiff gives move hand slaps ,and tends to come out of the wrap and tuck after a while I got the band's from eBay so not my wraps , GZK I dont like it .TB gold is very good as everyone knows I like that, But for me Double silver TB from 30mm to 25mm is the best seems to last longer ,it's faster and I hit the spinner far more times, So for me Double silver TB is a clear winner, Nice clip by the way
Is TB= Theraband Gold?
That chrony should go into decimal places for a better reading. 1 meter is almost 3 feet so in the conversion it will make a significant difference when averaging the 3 shots.
A very interesting video Cheers Dan. I use .8 Snipersling black from China with 3/8 Steel. I cut my Bands at 30mm to 20mm with about 7inch active Band length I get great speeds and its hard hitting But the Bands don't last at all long as they snap pretty regularly unfortunately
you probably are over powering the ammo. that a monster bandset for 3/8. if you upped the ammo to 7/16 or even 1/2 your bands could last longer i bet. and also could be your tying method with how tight you tie the pouch on the latex etc. alot of factors can go into what causes frequent breakage.
@@richyoung4051 Tying the pouch is definitely a factor! .Have got to be very careful not to overtighten the band im attaching etc ..But i am finding recently that the. 8 Green Snipersling is working well for me and Although some would say that I am using too much Elastic for 3/8 Soft Steel Bearings i would say that i get a Damn Good Wallop to All that i hit and easily punch straight through a Baked Bean tin at 25 yards and to my mind thats ok for an Elastic Band and a Tree Branch!😆
I shoot double and triple layer bands made with Theraband Blue to specifications from 1611torsten's RUclips channel. They are very zippy, but have a relative short life span. It was fun to experiment with them though.
that chronograph is so damn smart
thank you, this is selfdefence sufficient
Wow. I think 0.3 latex Is Faster 3-5% than TBG. i seen the video of Torsten has tested Those Speed.
Nice nice work Dan
Great video, very grateful.
Thanks brother
Great video. Thanks.
Thanks a lot. Awesome video.
My math puts you at about 8 ft.lb.s energy for those slingshots.
Thanks, very useful. Good job.
What do you typically use for your bands.
Thank you great comparison, I just got my Dankung Pocket Thunder delivered today, I'm gonna tie on the green bands shortly!!
I even made a replacement spaz 12 sho gun i shoot like 4or 5 steelies at once shit is bad ass the paint job on the spaz 12 is coller than most crappy ppl t making on the net
Hey Dan when or will we get an update on bands With all the new bands some are pretty heavy duty nowadays but do they last as long as the next What about the quality of some etc.This is still a great video either way💯👍
That is a good suggestion. Lot of changes in the last few years
So nice slineshote i like
hi which is better flat or tube rubber? pls do a comparison! thanks!
The Problem is you have not indicated the thickness of the band. GZK comes in everything from .54- 1.2 depending which color you choose. Was the Black a .54, .62, .72, .80, or even more out of the norm? Same with several of the other bands? .54 is not apples to apples to .80. This would be even more telling.
At the time this was made there were not a lot of different widths available. Gzk was
.70 standard which is the same as all the other widths in the test with the exception of 40 latex
@@danshootsslingshots1261 interesting video sir..i would love watch it..god bless you sir
what are the dimensions for butterfly shooting and tape thickness thank you friend
thanks for this. nice to see real side by side comparisons.
would be interesting to see the same with each firing lighter and heavier ammo. 1 gram mud 3.5 gram steel and 5.4 gram lead. (all in the 9-10mm). would be a 'better' test of band bound, or am i thinking too much?
Interesting..and use different thickness of the flat band..
what a tease of a finish.. 15.00 (incase its a fault) or is that an in joke...
Thats all we got to defend ourselves in the uk. I wonder if it would go through a bad guys skull?
depends on what you use, but yes. just ask joerg....
It'll definitely be a hospital job if you bounce it off their forehead lol.
I didn't know you could use gym bands
Very informative. If you had a 30 inch draw length and bands 6 inches long, how does velocity compare to 42 inch a 8.5 inch bands? Just getting started and wondering which style draw to learn, accuracy vs velocity. Thanks again
You will get a small increase in velocity with a longer draw but not enough to sacrifice accuracy. Decide which style your most accurate with and you can always adjust your band size and taper with ammo size to get your desires velocity.
3/8 inch steel ball is around 3.55 grams, let's say it is going 80m/s(262 ft/s) it is just over 11 joules of energy. It is not very impressive to be honest.
I may have missed it but what size shot are you using
Steel ball weight?
viteza este mică, atunci cum reușești sa ucizi cu praștia?
Where buy the slingshot , and the elastic??
Dan I shoot a lot how do u avoid band slap I try to get my form down an flick my wrist after the shots but still cant avoid them what do u think
I should do a video on this. No simple answer
I figured it out I just wasn't pulling to full draw wen I did mutch better
hashtag bring back 40 latex
1milimeter gzk coming out now. it may take the place of 40..testing coming this week
Slingshot Dan Ambrosius where can i get the gzk
How fps TBG 22.11.165mm?10mm steel balls?
Where do you get the gum rubber?
Am I seeing the numbers right? The gum rubber had the same numbers as the TBG?
Lenley Melvin basicly
@Ford Prefect I don't even use theraband gold anymore...Iike Precise latex or Snipersling latex...it lasts much longer and performs better...especially in cold weather. I hunt all year round in Canada during the coldest winter days...the bands barely slow down. No need to keep them inside my jacket like I had to with TBG
@Ford Prefect the Precise and Snipersling is even more faster in the summer heat. I get 300+fps with 3/8 steel with .70....only get about 260fps with the same cut TBG...and thats with my old stock TBG before they changed the formula. Dan does a video on comparing the new Chinese latex to the current TBG...he says it is garbage
Yea I saw simple the shot veidow tryed that but still get band slaps some time its Discouraging Cause I love to shoot
What was the temperature Dan?
jesse harris 85 F
We are still hanging out in the 50's so I am still using the dankung psuedo tapers. Can't wait to get the flats back out.
Amber latex 0.65mm
So the pure latex is for real the best? Uhm im upset.
Do you know the sheshou band??
Metric is better anyhow
What was the weight of the ammo? I would like to calculate the energy.
9.5 mm
do you know how much they weight in grains or grams?
@@benzo430 56 grains.
Hey Dan . Did you break in all the band sets with a least 20 shots to get a true side by side comparison ? The latex doesn't shoot optimal until its pre-streched at least 20 times as compared to a stiff fresh set .
treefork100 all were shot way over 20 times but some much more than others. the 40 latex is an old set as was the gum rubber. the results really only apply to this certain taper at my draw length at my house with me shooting..so take it with a grain of salt but i did find it interesting that they were all very close..
I found the closeness very interesting also . I need to nock the dust off my chrony and do some tests also .
Wanna get some real speed use a crutch as your frame drill out the studs holding it together but leave the one all the way st the bottom and flip the bottom part around makes it like a ft. Longer I use the whole crutch I'm using 2 __3ft long loops like the medium weight there dark greenvgot them at dunhams i sit n a stoil and can draw back past the butt of the crutch I gotta b shooting well over 400 cuz I have a real pocket shit and I'm blowing that out of the water, I shot a hole threw a concrete wall in my basement with a split shot for fishing it bounced up under the floor in my living room I have an archery and sling shot range in my basement I also have a tubular plastic pipe rod holder for the ocean I rigged up with a 8 in long 2 wide PC of the lightest bands and mounted it to a pallet facing vertical I even can put a whiskey biscuit in and shoot carbon arrows, only thing thats gonna come close to what im doin wud b dankung chinese tubes give it s shot super super fast
Interesting, but not really useful test. It is obvious, that stronger band achieves higher speed. So, if we are looking for the best material, then we have to cut and compare same force bandsets. This test shows us, what happens if you cut same dimension sets from different materials.
They are all the same width and thickness, just different types and manufacturers
About 7 to 9 fpe
Hello 240p! I missed you...not! 😛
Does speed = distance?
I'd say it's got to. This is comparing one ball to the same, but the heavier ball you use, the more the speed drops off and thereby, the distance.
What is the brand of this 40. I am from China
an wu it was distrubuted by Simple Shot in the USA. It was discontinued last year because the manufacturer no longer makes it
@@danshootsslingshots1261 Which is SAD man, 'cuz I was ready to order a mess of it after watching this!
@@garychandler4296 order the .8 Simple Shot Black. Its virtually the same
@@danshootsslingshots1261 Yup, next best choice I reckon.
My hearing is poor and your camera doesn't zoom in on the chronograph. Not a video helpful to me.
I bought a slingshot and find it terrifying to shoot, keep thinking I'm gonna shoot my own hand off.
Steel ball weight?