Her posting that text screenshot proved absolutely nothing. And it also shows how stupid she is for sharing so called “evidence” to be possibly used in court against Tory.
Thats the same text she leaked to TMZ when the incident happened lmfao. She grasping at straws if thats her only evidence. Funny how she accuses Tory talking to blogs when thats its clearly her team
@@abztraktt6403 Exactly. Accusing him of talking/leaking info to the blogs when all she’s done throughout this whole thing is run her mouth tweeting and along with that Instagram Live that she did first airing “her version” of the incident. I’d be suing her ass for defamation if it were me.
Idk y’all. Tory’s been keeping the same energy and been talking real confident for months about this situation along with maintaining his innocence. Somebody’s who guilty of something like this isn’t talking this tough and/or this situation would’ve been done and wrapped up by now, especially if they had some hardcore evidence against him. He knows something we don’t and I think there’s been a lot of details left out and covering up from her and her camp.
Watch the entire video Joe did on this plus the recent evidence with the DNA and you'll see why Tory can act that way. Jussie Thee Stallion's case is falling apart before our verry eyes
Am I the only one who remembers when Meg said that Tory shot her from inside the car yet the court case says the witness saw Kelsey and Meg fighting and saw the gun go off closer to Kelsey?!!! How is that possible if Meg claims Tory shot her from inside the car?!!! There’s been so many inconsistencies in her story
Yea I believe there was a fight inside the truck. Then they exited the truck they was probably still tryna fight and thats why the shot was fired. Megan was probably just too aggressive trying to get at kelsey and somehow she got that gun . But you're definitely asking questions that nobody wants to ask megan. In this situation theyre stance is that Megan dont have to prove anything smh
@@godbiblewriter83 Bro if you was in a car with someone and both of you got out the car and he shot you, would you really get back in the car with that person? And then still defens that person when police showed up?? C'mon make it make sense yo
@@godbiblewriter83 no she didn’t she just said “you know who really hurt you “ that could mean meg shot herself the security guard or tory she did not admit tory did it
Like the Jussie Smollett situation, Joe was once again on-point with his position on this from the jump. Take away Joe's bluster, and his takes are usually nuanced likely from his experiences and his off-kilter way of looking at things
All I ask is for this not to brushed under the rug if he's found innocent. I see Megan and her team playing the "okay but a black women still got shot" card
Yo sadly she ain’t gonna face any consequence from this. Judging by the social climate of “protect black women” and her blind fan base. She’s gonna win in the court of public opinion to a wide demographic of females.
Meg has to stick to her guns at this point. She 2 years deep into the narrative. She has to Jussie this…ride the lie to the end and never let up. Lie so hard that you start believing it. No other choice at this point. If she switched up now, her career is beyond over.
How exactly is she lying about being shot? The doctor pulled bullet fragments from her foot. Y’all stupid! The court can see through witnesses testimony when they are lying. One person was shot and all three denying they did it gtfoh. Someone did something and she believes it’s him for a reason, just because her lawyer is not giving a bunch of people who don’t matter in the case his or her strategy does not mean he will walk away.
Bruh.. I broke my foot before and I was on crutches for like 3 months, down for a total of 6 months, and have permanent nerve damage. She gets "shot" in the foot and was twerking like 2 Saturdays and half a margarita later. 🤔
I keep saying this! I've never broken a foot but I fractured my ankle and I was out for months too! Plus I needed physical therapy! Leg injuries take so long to heal because we use our legs so much daily! That's how I knew this was shady! Only people who have had similar injuries understand this!
Twerking or not. She has hospital records to prove she was shot. I definitely didn’t see her twerking but if so, she’s moving her back side not her feet to dance. Plus, he knows he was apologizing for the gun shot in those text messages. No way he would admit to cheating on her. He’s using the public for sympathy and you all are falling for it. Court has the last word not podcasters or RUclips legal teams.
Also, it all makes so much sense now why Kelsey and her are no longer friends (he was smashing both of them); like why else would they not be cool anymore….and she’s also been saying the same thing like Tory about how the situation didn’t go down the way Megan said soooo she doesn’t look too good right about now 🤷🏽♂️
Kelsey had the gun Kelsey had tory before Meg. Kelsey found out that nite they all got to arguing. Tory was trying to get the gun from Kelsey it went off. The security said he seen the gun go off by kelsey.
@@timoaksproductions you saw him afterwards right a lot of couples fight he was supposed to get beat on and take it huh CB human hence why RiRi n him we’re cool afterwards they’d still be together if it wasn’t for PO imo
@@timoaksproductions I’m sure you have skeletons so stop holding on to others faults, if they don’t have them faults anymore!!! I hate perfect people talking crap about others!
Than meg lied in her ig stories she said Kelsey and her didn't fall out cause of tory that's another lie. Cause a year ago Kelsey went live and made a diss track back call Bussin Shot.
at this point i think megan and her team trying to drag this out as long as possible cus once its over and tory is innocent he gon go on a tell all and spill everything that actually happened and megan gonna be done. If they stall long enough ppl wont care
@@Waters.. I feel like his team is pushing it back in order to get all the evidence on the table, I think they want a solid case where they’re gonna embark on everything that really happened that night so there’s no space to speculate and have doubts, because even though this is a court trial it’s also a trial in the public opinion and I think what they’re trying to do is clear his name to the public as well, because listen to what joe said, even if he gets found innocent his reputation will forever be ruined and tarnish
@@theathenaking5375 that’s exactly what’s happening, but the original comment tryna say that Meg team is dragging this out and change the narrative and I was only responding to that. But yeah you are correct, just tell the original commenter cause they’re the one who’s loud and wrong
Okay, they all are saying “idk what happened. I’m not taking sides” but when it first happened, they tried to shun Tory and said “let’s not mention his name, like duke and nem (that’s what they called 69)” and they talked about why a black women would lie only to now backtrack and act like they were impartial… 👎🏾👎🏾
If you knew who shot you and these random niggas came at you saying you delusional you’d be mad and calling people names too. “ aggrieved nature” yall say this every time a black woman defends herself
@@countlessmelanin8650 First off her demeanor is completely different than at first. Usually blk women get aggressive when the truth is about to expose that ass.
The thing about the text also is the text from her right before that was her telling him her battery died. No chick that got shot is trying to talk to the shooter. There is one person she stopped talking to immediately. And her feet experienced a miracle and the fragments are missing...
Jussie Thee Stallion The "no gun powder on Tory" pretty much sealed it for me Plus Joe being an industry person pretty much sealed it with his explanation of why things happened the way they did with people back working with Tory. Jussie (Meg) wont face anything for her lies UNLESS her label sees her as a toxic liability like Joe explained in his previous video on this.
@@Kaylakayyx That's exactly what she did like she did recently. She went straight to victim mode and let her stans defend her while not refuting anything said
if you gone talk abt it TALK ABT IT!!!! I'll say it for you, if he wins this case and it comes out that she lied her ass need to be kicked bc she played on this mans life knowing danm well he didnt do it and made hella money off it
Let's be clear there's literally nothing a black woman has went through that the black man has not went through..... So nope is not OK to make black man guilty until proven innocent ever not even for black women...... We as black men should always!!! be innocent!! until proven guilty
What a stupid thing to say We are black Black men have their struggles And black women do too Not you trying to compare who has it worse when we are all black
I think its a possibility that she was not shot at all. Possible reasons: - She claims she was shot in both feet, but she was walking at the scene of the crime (referring to the video of the three of them being instructed to get out the car) - this would be physically impossible if it happened the way she said she did. Also, only one foot was bleeding and when she went out a few weeks after the incident, only one foot was bandaged up. - She said no bones or tendons were broken after being shot in both feet - feet are basically all bone, so this is pretty much impossible. - The bullet fragments that were allegedly removed from her feet are now 'missing' and 'cannot be located' (were they there in the first place?). Her injuries were also deemed to be 'superficial' by the doctors, which can be perhaps backed up by how she was able to walk right after it happened, and the wound she posted on instagram. - Tory denied that he did what he was accused of doing on his DAYSTAR album and Instagram live. Kelsey's disstrack to meg includes lyrics like 'Who shot you?' - i think they are both insinuating that she never actually got shot, esp when Tory says 'how you get shot in your foot and it hit no bones or tendons?'. In Kelseys disstrack, she also says 'said her back was turned, but you know who really HURT you' (note: she didnt say SHOT you) - On an Insta post to do with the a situation last year by a blog (i think shaderoom), someone commented 'there were rumours that Kelsey shot her' - Tory himself replied to the comment saying 'thats not true'. Note the comment says 'SHOT', and Tory says he didnt do it and has questioned how you can be shot in the foot and it hits no bones or tendons. She could potentially have either been cut by glass (from where though? Car windows? Alcohol bottles?) as she said from the start, or it could have been bullet fragments (which now 'cannot be located' - were they ever there?) from the bullet(s) ricocheting off a surface (a gun did go off that night). Who knows? Also, just because a gun went off or was shot does not mean that she was injured by this specifically.
That's exactly what I'm thinking because other than that the story jus doesn't make sense like it literally gave me a headache trying to figure it out cuz it made no sense the way she explained it
If somebody shot at the ground & the bullet ricocheted….. by the law she (technically) was shot even if it was just fragments from the bullet exploding near her feet.
@@yoooo9947 but where are these fragments (they're 'missing')? what was pulled out of her foot? - paramedics and doctors that treated her at the scene and hospital will need to confirm/clarify how they treated her and what was in her foot. This, along with any footage from the incident (which does apparently exist), along with accounts from the security guard, the independent witness, neighbours, the best friend Kelsey will be needed to help clarify what exactly happened that night and how she got injured (along with any evidence)
It's not emotional. Meg lied. The quick foot recovery made no sense. It's not fans of this person or that person. Y'all just be followers & love liiiieeesss
The definition of inconclusive means the dna evidence is neither included or excluded. It’s many factors that come into play when DNA evidence is inconclusive.
Its disgusting that no accountability is being taken by Megan ❗❗ that last comment was ignorant ( still gonna rock with black woman even if they lied , wrong etc ) smh
The text message didn’t prove what he was apologizing for but it highlights that he was speaking of an isolated incident and he admitted to him only doing it because he was drunk. If he was dealing with both of them as he stated then I’m sure it wasn’t one isolated incident.
And Joe was right on his original take in that the foot has so many connecting bones, when you brake something in your foot, your whole foot is f*****. Theres almost no way around that lol
@@julienezemka3476 probably stepped on glass and tried to oversell it (in my opinion) You're not getting shot in the foot amd walking away with nothing more than a few stitches.
@@julienezemka3476 unless it was a graze maybe? Which is highly possible. But im still not buying lol my gut on this one says meg is full of shit, but your theory is highly possible hell yeah.
But Joe did say last year he owed Tory an apology when Tory started dropping music. Joe been subliminally saying Meg full of shit without getting him backlash. He even said the industry knows the truth about the Tory and Meg situation. That’s why certain rappers still fucked with Tory and making music with him. Let’s start the conversation of how Meg is a shitty friend and she has been since she crossed over. Ask all her A1 day 1’s who came with her at the start of her career and now they no longer around and distance themselves from Meg. There’s a pattern. ☝🏿
Joe i thank you so much for breaking it all down for people who don't use common sense and their brain and pick sides without looking at the shit that's in front of them. I've been saying this shit for two years, TORY really liked Meg and they was kicking it super tough, I've been around 🔫's, robbers, and dealers all my life and no man or no woman gonna text you sorry after they shot you. PERIOD. From the beginning to the end, this whole story has made no sense, why serve tory the gag order and let Meg trash him for two years. Meg has the industry backing her and tory working solo, but the industry knows what happened.! But I'm sticking to my story and MY STORY IS TORY DID NOT SHOT MEG.! I believe in the bottom of my heart that kelsey got scared and shot the gun and it git glass or could have ricochet off something and hit her in the foot, but the evidence shows Meg wasn't shot. Fuck the DNA, it's simple logic, if you are shot in the foot it would takes months, maybe a few years to get your foot back to normal and learn how to reuse the foot, wouldn't be no twearking on ig live the very next day, wouldn't been no tour a few months later when your shot in the foot. Meg lied and she's been trying to tear tory down. AK has someone from the inside and it ain't tory, AK has even said that.! But when the truth comes out, then Meg owes TORY an apology
An apology? I think she would owe him more than that. Saying sorry doesn’t fix the damage to Tory’s rep or compensate the money he’s lost. And I’m sure he’s lost millions. Tory was about to get the SERIOUS bag for Quarantine Radio til this happened
Meg owes more than an apology. She owes him money and the public an apology and she would do us a great favor by going away forever after this for this complete circus act she pulled.
Man I have a friend just like MeganTheeStallion. And when she gets drunk? She lies and makes up scenarios it’s weird asf tbh. That’s why we aren’t friends now, but Individuals who overly drink and smoke do need to sit and listen to the sober mouths around them cause mfers can really be delusional
This is weird to me bc I tore ligaments in my ankle and it took a total of 8 months for it to heal and I also needed surgery.. how did Megan get shot and was back to tweaking within a month. I can’t even run anymore bc of my ankle yet Megan doing the most. Megan is lying and it’s sad bc there is enough innocent black men in jail.
Her gunshot wound was “superficial”, NO ligaments were torn or affected….superficial wounds don’t take long to heal ……sorry about ur injury, sounds serious
@@joemillionaire6470 “no way around it” 😳 …a superficial wound is basically a scratch lol..if that’s wht happened to Meg, then it obviously healed in a short amount of time…real simple 🤷🏻♀️
@@goldie2011 you know where the fragments are ? Explain to me how a gsw can be superficial when she said she was shot in both feet ,oh she changed that to one foot ,oh she wasn’t looking maybe she has super powers ,she talked about glass too ,all witnesses don’t support her story
Kelsey shot the gun. Meg was drunk drunk drunkity drunk. Tory was sexing both of them and they fought that night. I don't even think Meg got shot, it's possible that she got injured from the broken glass, who knows? God, kelsey, the damn security who witnessed it all lol...Meg needs to stay off the bottle.
At this point I feel like ALL 3 not including the bodyguard have something to loose in this : Megan who was messing around w her friends man/lover they were fighting : Tory I heard was also fighting w Kelsey hence why she has never come out and totally defended Tory but hasn't supported Meg either Not to mention Kelsey DID have GSR on her so why implicate yourself ??? Megan is playing a game she gonna loose now Kelsey is her friend again she the one trying to get people on payroll and sending info to TMZ all the things she accused Tory of she just a liar simple!!!!
@@MakaveliG17C what your talking about is when the gun went off I'm talking about what Kelsey friend stated have you saw the video?? If not again I'm sticking to what I said !! Just pay attention and don't say I didn't tell u
I agree...stay quiet Tory. You're a black man, don't give them additional reason to throw you under...especially if you innocent. Keep the talk after victory. And this comment is not me saying Tory is innocent.
Naw he innocent. Once they said he had no gun powder on him….that sealed it. Can’t shoot a gun and not have that on you plus he wouldn’t have time to wash it off before police came plus they’ll know…. Just Meg and her team stalling and look how she’s talking out of anger now and Tory been confident lately
@@jaymesmean I feel you a 100% they just defending her because she’s fine but ignoring the facts but I still have a small hutch that they’ll say Tory guilty because you know…a black man or just a man period plus he’s not from America and like I said Meg is fine so idk Justice system can fail again..
All the proof people need is that she was in the club few days after "claimed getting shot in both Feet" there's no way people can walk few days after that. Then it was proven to only be fragments
She’s exempt from this whole situation because she’s the right color and it’s beneath her…oh the privilege…must be nice to have luxuries that nobody else have solely for being born a certain shade.
Proof or no proof, Tory shot Meg regardless of who or what it was about. All I can say is I don't know what made him shoot her but he did. If she was willing to get out and walk then he should have just her went on about her business instead of shooting at her, she must have hurt his feelings real bad in order to shoot her in the feet and I hate that he tries to blame it on the alcohol because he wasn't drunk.
What I don’t understand is what Megan would’ve gained from this.. she must’ve had so many people in her ear telling her how to go about this situation.. now she sitting up here believing her own lie.. Meg a liar and she get everything she deserves.. like I’m intrested to know what happens to the both of them after this
JBP was part of gettin tory out of here when the news broke. to say now its not for the boys to call - after condemning what they thought happened is crazy. Looks like a back track, joe's best excuse is Mal (sampled on tory's album) is outta here. He was going the hardest. the emotional reactions to brand new events before facts. and then ignorance to them after the fact is crazy
This black woman stuff be killing me. If a man is accused of doing something whether he wins or lose his reputation is tarnished! Ish need to stop acting like Meg isn’t setting him up to be hung no matter the outcome he won’t be injured he will be hung!
I’m not shutting up… he was silent while she tried to destroy him for years. Now he has the opportunity to speak and he is 🤷🏽♀️ I’m not a fan of either party but this one speaks for itself
I'm appalled at the lack of Anatomy understanding or developed interest after hearing someone got shot in the foot & all that was needed was a saline wash & ace bandage. The stupidity so ingrained in black thought & understanding is astounding
@Naambo Taimi Amakutuwa why ASSUME my comment is racist? Why is it anyone's responsibility to educate the wilfully ignorant? Y'all be real life confused when the first & last name ain't rooted in : my mama is a hoodbooger
being as though this would be more of a domestic violence kind of situation, it’s not THAT unlikely that he would text her apologizing the same day. When I was physically assaulted by an ex (beat to a pulp, fractured ribs, head split open, etc) he was calling me crying and apologizing hours later. I feel like people are looking at it more from a street perspective, (i.e. if he shot a gang rival or so it would be very unlikely of him to apologize after, but you can’t apply that to this situation).. Now do I 100% believe that’s what he was apologizing for in the text messages? Not really
BULLSHIT!!!! In her Gayle King interview she said he stood over the window and shot her then she crawled in a driveway and he immediately started to apologize and "offered them 1 MILLION DOLLARS not to say anything...." Does that make sense to you??? I shoot u INTENTIONALLY and immediately after apologize and offer u millions?? C'mon y'all THINK!!!! 🤔💭🤦🏾♀️
Tory is innocent until proven guilty SIMPLE 🙏🏽
Her posting that text screenshot proved absolutely nothing. And it also shows how stupid she is for sharing so called “evidence” to be possibly used in court against Tory.
Thats the same text she leaked to TMZ when the incident happened lmfao. She grasping at straws if thats her only evidence. Funny how she accuses Tory talking to blogs when thats its clearly her team
@@MB-es9ft Exactly!!!!!!!!!! When THATS her evidence, it’s over for her
@@abztraktt6403 Exactly. Accusing him of talking/leaking info to the blogs when all she’s done throughout this whole thing is run her mouth tweeting and along with that Instagram Live that she did first airing “her version” of the incident. I’d be suing her ass for defamation if it were me.
Yea she’s not as intelligent as she thinks she is. Super air sign energy.
@@MB-es9ft exactly bcus if she had anything else she would rush to post that shit. Thats all they got.
Yo, a Nigga shot you then text you “my bad” does sound insane…
I would 1000% believe Kanye did something like that tho
@@willbeard4835 🤣🤣. Kanye would've invited her to the Donda 2 sessions afterwards
@@SolidSnake240 💀💀😂
Puffy would have taken them shopping.
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Idk y’all. Tory’s been keeping the same energy and been talking real confident for months about this situation along with maintaining his innocence. Somebody’s who guilty of something like this isn’t talking this tough and/or this situation would’ve been done and wrapped up by now, especially if they had some hardcore evidence against him. He knows something we don’t and I think there’s been a lot of details left out and covering up from her and her camp.
You sure about that? We’ve seen MANY idiots in Tory’s position who put on a tough front and then fall flat on their face anyway
Watch the entire video Joe did on this plus the recent evidence with the DNA and you'll see why Tory can act that way. Jussie Thee Stallion's case is falling apart before our verry eyes
@Gee Andrezzi explain y the best friend had gun residue on her hands?
@@burnthrust nobody knows what happened that night. Trying to explain why somebody had gun residue on their hands is literally pointless.
@Gee Andrezzi but there was no residue found on tory hands. It's a simple process of elimination
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…and didn’t even sweat when hitting 5 three’s from half court eyes closed. 🔥🔥
Am I the only one who remembers when Meg said that Tory shot her from inside the car yet the court case says the witness saw Kelsey and Meg fighting and saw the gun go off closer to Kelsey?!!! How is that possible if Meg claims Tory shot her from inside the car?!!! There’s been so many inconsistencies in her story
Struggle's that a black man goes through.... All evidence pointing away from Tory but he's still fighting for his innocence.
Like she said she got shot in both feet and her in the dr report it was a SUPERFICAL WOUND in ONE FOOT
Yea I believe there was a fight inside the truck. Then they exited the truck they was probably still tryna fight and thats why the shot was fired. Megan was probably just too aggressive trying to get at kelsey and somehow she got that gun . But you're definitely asking questions that nobody wants to ask megan. In this situation theyre stance is that Megan dont have to prove anything smh
You on one it’s so much lies that another big one is no one ever goes to urgent care for gun shot wounds
Not to mention the “dance bitch dance” claim
Meg's bff is not even coming to Meg's defense over the situation if that is not telling then idk what is
Listen to her diss song she pretty much admits Tory shot her damn ??? Y'all did listen to the song
@@godbiblewriter83 Bro if you was in a car with someone and both of you got out the car and he shot you, would you really get back in the car with that person? And then still defens that person when police showed up?? C'mon make it make sense yo
@@godbiblewriter83 no she didn’t she just said “you know who really hurt you “ that could mean meg shot herself the security guard or tory she did not admit tory did it
@@them.u.d.4385 I done seen bitches damn near die argue with the police when they tried to arrest the nigga and go right back in the crib with him
@@godbiblewriter83 Ain't those the same type to lie about anything as well??! Stop being slow bro
Like the Jussie Smollett situation, Joe was once again on-point with his position on this from the jump. Take away Joe's bluster, and his takes are usually nuanced likely from his experiences and his off-kilter way of looking at things
Naw he was on Megan side in the beginning
I can partly agree but I won't give him too much credit for Smollet. Most people knew the deal but didn't speak out bc of optics
He was back and forth
He would have made the best damn defense attorney
He was with Meg until Ish called him out for going through domestic accusations
All I ask is for this not to brushed under the rug if he's found innocent. I see Megan and her team playing the "okay but a black women still got shot" card
She never got shot though. Tory lawyer will prove it in court
@@MakaveliG17C I agree. But her team will try to still spin it
Yo sadly she ain’t gonna face any consequence from this. Judging by the social climate of “protect black women” and her blind fan base. She’s gonna win in the court of public opinion to a wide demographic of females.
@@migvel1711 And It's a VERY Valid assertion to make.
Meg has to stick to her guns at this point. She 2 years deep into the narrative. She has to Jussie this…ride the lie to the end and never let up. Lie so hard that you start believing it. No other choice at this point. If she switched up now, her career is beyond over.
Till the wheels fall off is the go to when you young and dumb
Or just be a decent human being and admit you were wrong, apologise and deal with the consequences of her actions
Ahahaha! Not the Jussie on Tupac mode.
She thought JayZ and Beyonce could help bully her through this situation. . . It's a hard one though.
How exactly is she lying about being shot? The doctor pulled bullet fragments from her foot. Y’all stupid! The court can see through witnesses testimony when they are lying. One person was shot and all three denying they did it gtfoh. Someone did something and she believes it’s him for a reason, just because her lawyer is not giving a bunch of people who don’t matter in the case his or her strategy does not mean he will walk away.
Bruh.. I broke my foot before and I was on crutches for like 3 months, down for a total of 6 months, and have permanent nerve damage. She gets "shot" in the foot and was twerking like 2 Saturdays and half a margarita later. 🤔
I keep saying this! I've never broken a foot but I fractured my ankle and I was out for months too! Plus I needed physical therapy! Leg injuries take so long to heal because we use our legs so much daily! That's how I knew this was shady! Only people who have had similar injuries understand this!
Twerking or not. She has hospital records to prove she was shot. I definitely didn’t see her twerking but if so, she’s moving her back side not her feet to dance. Plus, he knows he was apologizing for the gun shot in those text messages. No way he would admit to cheating on her. He’s using the public for sympathy and you all are falling for it. Court has the last word not podcasters or RUclips legal teams.
@@lanalang1243 boy you gonna eat these words hard
@@tae48tv79 Yes sure little boy, right in your dreams.
Logic. She is capping, and I stop supporting her and her music.
Also, it all makes so much sense now why Kelsey and her are no longer friends (he was smashing both of them); like why else would they not be cool anymore….and she’s also been saying the same thing like Tory about how the situation didn’t go down the way Megan said soooo she doesn’t look too good right about now 🤷🏽♂️
Kelsey was fw Tory first & Meg secretly went behind her back to fw Tory. Shit hit the fan when Kelsey found out at the party,
Kelsey said the same thing Megan said which was that she did not shoot her.
Kelsey had the gun Kelsey had tory before Meg. Kelsey found out that nite they all got to arguing. Tory was trying to get the gun from Kelsey it went off. The security said he seen the gun go off by kelsey.
Chris Brown, Look how they still hold what he did 100yrs ago against him!
That's why nothing will happen to Jussie Thee Stallion UNLESS she becomes toxic to the label like Joe explained in the previous vid
@@662chillin Jussie?😂😂😂😂WTF
@@timoaksproductions They over it! So we should be too.
@@timoaksproductions you saw him afterwards right a lot of couples fight he was supposed to get beat on and take it huh CB human hence why RiRi n him we’re cool afterwards they’d still be together if it wasn’t for PO imo
@@timoaksproductions I’m sure you have skeletons so stop holding on to others faults, if they don’t have them faults anymore!!! I hate perfect people talking crap about others!
Than meg lied in her ig stories she said Kelsey and her didn't fall out cause of tory that's another lie. Cause a year ago Kelsey went live and made a diss track back call Bussin Shot.
I don't have no horse in this race... genius🏇🤣😭
THANK YOU JOEEEEEE FOR ALWAYS TALKING THE TRUTH!
The truth in these situations for sure 😎
at this point i think megan and her team trying to drag this out as long as possible cus once its over and tory is innocent he gon go on a tell all and spill everything that actually happened and megan gonna be done. If they stall long enough ppl wont care
yet his team is the one that keeps pushing the trial back.....
Ayo that’s smart asf LMAOOOO never thought of that 😂😭
But it’s his team that keeps pushing it back so keep being loud and wrong.
@@Waters.. I feel like his team is pushing it back in order to get all the evidence on the table, I think they want a solid case where they’re gonna embark on everything that really happened that night so there’s no space to speculate and have doubts, because even though this is a court trial it’s also a trial in the public opinion and I think what they’re trying to do is clear his name to the public as well, because listen to what joe said, even if he gets found innocent his reputation will forever be ruined and tarnish
@@theathenaking5375 that’s exactly what’s happening, but the original comment tryna say that Meg team is dragging this out and change the narrative and I was only responding to that. But yeah you are correct, just tell the original commenter cause they’re the one who’s loud and wrong
Okay, they all are saying “idk what happened. I’m not taking sides” but when it first happened, they tried to shun Tory and said “let’s not mention his name, like duke and nem (that’s what they called 69)” and they talked about why a black women would lie only to now backtrack and act like they were impartial…
👎🏾👎🏾
I remember… they crucified Tory when the story first hit (Joe talked big shit), now they have switched up.
Meg started off crying screamimg protect blk women. Now she cursing everyone out and name calling. Very aggressive nature. I wonder why?
Signs of a career finna get clapped
lol aggressive nature?
If you knew who shot you and these random niggas came at you saying you delusional you’d be mad and calling people names too. “ aggrieved nature” yall say this every time a black woman defends herself
@@countlessmelanin8650 First off her demeanor is completely different than at first. Usually blk women get aggressive when the truth is about to expose that ass.
@@body46 black women get more aggressive or do you mean psychologically as (humans)when people are guilty of something they get more aggressive
The thing about the text also is the text from her right before that was her telling him her battery died. No chick that got shot is trying to talk to the shooter. There is one person she stopped talking to immediately. And her feet experienced a miracle and the fragments are missing...
That text was from earlier that day or a day before that
@@MrDweeny still... That'll clearly indicate everything was cool w them before all this... Something still won't add up with Marcus' story.
@@jlking0098 y’all childish for calling her that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was laceration that girl is crazy
@@MrDweeny aye bro. She wanna finesse like a nigga, it's time to stand on it... 10 toes..
Tory should drop a freestyle on the "who shot ya" beat
LMFAO. That would be hilarious
I was thinking this but it ain’t funny
Why did I think about this yesterday 😂😂😂
That would break the internet if he’s found innocent 😂
Megan already disgraced that beat on her flop album she put out trying to diss Tory. I knew she was cap and looking for attention at that point.
We protect black women, but question who protects black men?
Facts
Exactly….and nobody, we always have to protect ourselves like we’ve always done
We have to protect each other. 💪
@@jeffreyzetrenne716 💯🤙🏽💪🏽
Gtfoh! Black femicide is rampant.
Jussie Thee Stallion
The "no gun powder on Tory" pretty much sealed it for me
Plus Joe being an industry person pretty much sealed it with his explanation of why things happened the way they did with people back working with Tory.
Jussie (Meg) wont face anything for her lies UNLESS her label sees her as a toxic liability like Joe explained in his previous video on this.
Did u read court documents stating there was no gun powder on tory or u just going what is going around the net?
@@cassio2034 It literally came out the last time they went to court, and she did the exact same thing… complain online
@@Kaylakayyx That's exactly what she did like she did recently. She went straight to victim mode and let her stans defend her while not refuting anything said
if you gone talk abt it TALK ABT IT!!!! I'll say it for you, if he wins this case and it comes out that she lied her ass need to be kicked bc she played on this mans life knowing danm well he didnt do it and made hella money off it
Let's be clear there's literally nothing a black woman has went through that the black man has not went through..... So nope is not OK to make black man guilty until proven innocent ever not even for black women...... We as black men should always!!! be innocent!! until proven guilty
FACTS
Heavy on the Facts
Yeah his reasoning behind that was weird
I was thinking this exact thing. If anything black men had it harder…people are even more cruel to men
I didn’t know black men gave birth
That’s the answer I was looking for @ 4:12 we’re losing either way as a community! Dude said that perfectly
He tried to tell us this on his album and they all said “I’m not listening to it” 🤦🏾♂️
I listened to it right away, believed him and it was 🔥🔥🔥 by the way! It’s in heavy rotation to this day for me.
@@notjustaprettyface I remember that when mal and Rory said they didn’t want to pay a listen ngl joe said it too and they were all wrong
@@AlexGarcia-yp6ov joe a flip flopped
@@jpjuster2352 until he found out behind closed doors
Thank you Joe for stating the obvious NOBODY GONNA SHOOT YOU AND TEXT YOU AND SAY I'M SORRY, THEY NOT
I mean, it would absolutely make no sense if anybody ever did that ... Meg is on something...
Meg was wasted & don’t know what really happen
Trust me!
There it is, case closed!
Ahhhh... But is that actually what you read...
I'll say......prep yourselves for the Whataboutism when this is over.
I think black men have been through way more than black women. The black woman being a victim is a social media talking point.
What a stupid thing to say
We are black
Black men have their struggles
And black women do too
Not you trying to compare who has it worse when we are all black
However I will say black women not only deal with being black but also being woman
@@countlessmelanin8650 yea ok!
I think its a possibility that she was not shot at all. Possible reasons:
- She claims she was shot in both feet, but she was walking at the scene of the crime (referring to the video of the three of them being instructed to get out the car) - this would be physically impossible if it happened the way she said she did. Also, only one foot was bleeding and when she went out a few weeks after the incident, only one foot was bandaged up.
- She said no bones or tendons were broken after being shot in both feet - feet are basically all bone, so this is pretty much impossible.
- The bullet fragments that were allegedly removed from her feet are now 'missing' and 'cannot be located' (were they there in the first place?). Her injuries were also deemed to be 'superficial' by the doctors, which can be perhaps backed up by how she was able to walk right after it happened, and the wound she posted on instagram.
- Tory denied that he did what he was accused of doing on his DAYSTAR album and Instagram live. Kelsey's disstrack to meg includes lyrics like 'Who shot you?' - i think they are both insinuating that she never actually got shot, esp when Tory says 'how you get shot in your foot and it hit no bones or tendons?'. In Kelseys disstrack, she also says 'said her back was turned, but you know who really HURT you' (note: she didnt say SHOT you)
- On an Insta post to do with the a situation last year by a blog (i think shaderoom), someone commented 'there were rumours that Kelsey shot her' - Tory himself replied to the comment saying 'thats not true'. Note the comment says 'SHOT', and Tory says he didnt do it and has questioned how you can be shot in the foot and it hits no bones or tendons.
She could potentially have either been cut by glass (from where though? Car windows? Alcohol bottles?) as she said from the start, or it could have been bullet fragments (which now 'cannot be located' - were they ever there?) from the bullet(s) ricocheting off a surface (a gun did go off that night). Who knows?
Also, just because a gun went off or was shot does not mean that she was injured by this specifically.
That's exactly what I'm thinking because other than that the story jus doesn't make sense like it literally gave me a headache trying to figure it out cuz it made no sense the way she explained it
Jussie Thee Stallion went from "You shot me" to "I was shot". Plus with Joe's explanation in his previous vid on this, it pretty much cleared Tory IMO
I ain’t reading all that but facts
If somebody shot at the ground & the bullet ricocheted….. by the law she (technically) was shot even if it was just fragments from the bullet exploding near her feet.
@@yoooo9947 but where are these fragments (they're 'missing')? what was pulled out of her foot? - paramedics and doctors that treated her at the scene and hospital will need to confirm/clarify how they treated her and what was in her foot. This, along with any footage from the incident (which does apparently exist), along with accounts from the security guard, the independent witness, neighbours, the best friend Kelsey will be needed to help clarify what exactly happened that night and how she got injured (along with any evidence)
I can’t believe she lied like this on him. That’s some devilish shit. God will deal with her in due time.
It's a woman
It's easy to believe. Some ppl lie about anything
Wow. You have the evidence and court docs at your house. That's solves everything.
@@WhoCares3001 you too were you there during the shooting ?
lmfao "thoughts and prayers"
It's not emotional. Meg lied. The quick foot recovery made no sense. It's not fans of this person or that person. Y'all just be followers & love liiiieeesss
FYI you can 100% say you didn’t do this. You don’t have to talk about it but you can definitely say you didn’t do it. Celebs say it daily
The definition of inconclusive means the dna evidence is neither included or excluded. It’s many factors that come into play when DNA evidence is inconclusive.
Its disgusting that no accountability is being taken by Megan ❗❗ that last comment was ignorant ( still gonna rock with black woman even if they lied , wrong etc ) smh
She went from I walked away from the car and somebody shot me. To YOU SHOT ME! To he yelled dance bitch dance 🤦🏾
Megan Smollet’s career is in trouble. This doesn’t look good for her.
Nancy Dillion was not in the court house that day.
The text message didn’t prove what he was apologizing for but it highlights that he was speaking of an isolated incident and he admitted to him only doing it because he was drunk. If he was dealing with both of them as he stated then I’m sure it wasn’t one isolated incident.
You know where the fragments are or the gun residue or the gun shot wound ?
Maybe he was apologizing for letting it slip to Kelsey dat he and Meg betrayed her 🤷🏾♀️
But how y’all gon tell a man WHO IS ON TRIAL AND CAN GET 22 YEARS TO NOT SAY NOTHING. What type of shit is this. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
And Joe was right on his original take in that the foot has so many connecting bones, when you brake something in your foot, your whole foot is f*****. Theres almost no way around that lol
but megan showed a pic of her heel with the stitched wound and shit. she had a lot of chance
@@julienezemka3476 probably stepped on glass and tried to oversell it (in my opinion)
You're not getting shot in the foot amd walking away with nothing more than a few stitches.
@@doomassthenightcrawler right but it depends of the shot, maybe the bullet went through something before hitting her
@@julienezemka3476 at point blank range!?! Come on my brotha.. lol
@@julienezemka3476 unless it was a graze maybe? Which is highly possible. But im still not buying lol my gut on this one says meg is full of shit, but your theory is highly possible hell yeah.
We not gone forget Joe, Parks and Mal shitting on Tory when this happened 2 years ago without even knowing all of the facts.
But Joe did say last year he owed Tory an apology when Tory started dropping music. Joe been subliminally saying Meg full of shit without getting him backlash. He even said the industry knows the truth about the Tory and Meg situation. That’s why certain rappers still fucked with Tory and making music with him. Let’s start the conversation of how Meg is a shitty friend and she has been since she crossed over. Ask all her A1 day 1’s who came with her at the start of her career and now they no longer around and distance themselves from Meg. There’s a pattern. ☝🏿
Facts I was like they lame as hell for that
Mal was the one really in his feelings.
Joe i thank you so much for breaking it all down for people who don't use common sense and their brain and pick sides without looking at the shit that's in front of them. I've been saying this shit for two years, TORY really liked Meg and they was kicking it super tough, I've been around 🔫's, robbers, and dealers all my life and no man or no woman gonna text you sorry after they shot you. PERIOD. From the beginning to the end, this whole story has made no sense, why serve tory the gag order and let Meg trash him for two years. Meg has the industry backing her and tory working solo, but the industry knows what happened.! But I'm sticking to my story and MY STORY IS TORY DID NOT SHOT MEG.! I believe in the bottom of my heart that kelsey got scared and shot the gun and it git glass or could have ricochet off something and hit her in the foot, but the evidence shows Meg wasn't shot. Fuck the DNA, it's simple logic, if you are shot in the foot it would takes months, maybe a few years to get your foot back to normal and learn how to reuse the foot, wouldn't be no twearking on ig live the very next day, wouldn't been no tour a few months later when your shot in the foot. Meg lied and she's been trying to tear tory down. AK has someone from the inside and it ain't tory, AK has even said that.! But when the truth comes out, then Meg owes TORY an apology
And a big bag
An apology? I think she would owe him more than that. Saying sorry doesn’t fix the damage to Tory’s rep or compensate the money he’s lost. And I’m sure he’s lost millions. Tory was about to get the SERIOUS bag for Quarantine Radio til this happened
Meg owes more than an apology. She owes him money and the public an apology and she would do us a great favor by going away forever after this for this complete circus act she pulled.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not to say I believe meg story but why everyone say she twerked the day after where can I find this video ?
Man I have a friend just like MeganTheeStallion. And when she gets drunk? She lies and makes up scenarios it’s weird asf tbh. That’s why we aren’t friends now, but Individuals who overly drink and smoke do need to sit and listen to the sober mouths around them cause mfers can really be delusional
My sister is the same! And she’s very violent as well. She reminds me so much of Megan and it’s pretty sick.
This is weird to me bc I tore ligaments in my ankle and it took a total of 8 months for it to heal and I also needed surgery.. how did Megan get shot and was back to tweaking within a month. I can’t even run anymore bc of my ankle yet Megan doing the most. Megan is lying and it’s sad bc there is enough innocent black men in jail.
She wasn't shot that's why it's no bullet fragments 😩
Her gunshot wound was “superficial”, NO ligaments were torn or affected….superficial wounds don’t take long to heal ……sorry about ur injury, sounds serious
@@goldie2011 it’s still her foot there’s no way around it
@@joemillionaire6470 “no way around it” 😳 …a superficial wound is basically a scratch lol..if that’s wht happened to Meg, then it obviously healed in a short amount of time…real simple 🤷🏻♀️
@@goldie2011 you know where the fragments are ?
Explain to me how a gsw can be superficial when she said she was shot in both feet ,oh she changed that to one foot ,oh she wasn’t looking maybe she has super powers ,she talked about glass too ,all witnesses don’t support her story
This is why the best thing they could have done was handle this behind the scenes and not legally against each other
Bruh I've been waiting for this!!!!!
Joe keeping it 💯
Been waiting for this
Kelsey shot the gun. Meg was drunk drunk drunkity drunk. Tory was sexing both of them and they fought that night. I don't even think Meg got shot, it's possible that she got injured from the broken glass, who knows? God, kelsey, the damn security who witnessed it all lol...Meg needs to stay off the bottle.
Some ppl slow🤦🏾♀️. Perjury is a felony 🖤👑💋💯
No as A Black Woman I totally disagree Black Women protect Black Men too... This is sad
It’s the Jordan peele version of spike lee’s bamboozled.
Eh
Cancel MEG
Thoughts and Prayers
At this point I feel like ALL 3 not including the bodyguard have something to loose in this : Megan who was messing around w her friends man/lover they were fighting : Tory I heard was also fighting w Kelsey hence why she has never come out and totally defended Tory but hasn't supported Meg either Not to mention Kelsey DID have GSR on her so why implicate yourself ??? Megan is playing a game she gonna loose now Kelsey is her friend again she the one trying to get people on payroll and sending info to TMZ all the things she accused Tory of she just a liar simple!!!!
Tory didn’t fight with anyone. He was simply framed. The fight only involves meg and Kelsey. The witnesses confirmed it
Wait Kelsey and Meg are friends again??
@@MakaveliG17C what your talking about is when the gun went off I'm talking about what Kelsey friend stated have you saw the video?? If not again I'm sticking to what I said !! Just pay attention and don't say I didn't tell u
WHEN YOU POINT AND SHOOT A FIREARM YOUR FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THE FIREARM.
And hands
And hands n wrists especially gun shot residue between thumb n index finger
Been waiting for y’all to get to this 😂
If we cant figure this one out... how are we going to figure out 2Pac and Biggie????
Those have been figured out the night both incidents took place loool
Karma awaits Meg
I agree...stay quiet Tory. You're a black man, don't give them additional reason to throw you under...especially if you innocent. Keep the talk after victory. And this comment is not me saying Tory is innocent.
Naw he innocent. Once they said he had no gun powder on him….that sealed it. Can’t shoot a gun and not have that on you plus he wouldn’t have time to wash it off before police came plus they’ll know…. Just Meg and her team stalling and look how she’s talking out of anger now and Tory been confident lately
@@King4oe i agree. just making sure the Meg trolls don't blast me lol
@@jaymesmean I feel you a 100% they just defending her because she’s fine but ignoring the facts but I still have a small hutch that they’ll say Tory guilty because you know…a black man or just a man period plus he’s not from America and like I said Meg is fine so idk Justice system can fail again..
Yall forget the black MAN is the oppressed one smh
Y'all assumed Tory was guilty, talked all that bs, and is now ya'll salty. 🧂
All the proof people need is that she was in the club few days after "claimed getting shot in both Feet" there's no way people can walk few days after that. Then it was proven to only be fragments
Did everyone forget that Kylie Jenner was also there ?? She should be a witness I’m so confused
She’s exempt from this whole situation because she’s the right color and it’s beneath her…oh the privilege…must be nice to have luxuries that nobody else have solely for being born a certain shade.
The first time I heard the term "hub bub" was on 'The little rascals" which came out back in the 20's...100 years ago.
Idk who “we” is but I’m not fucking with Meg if she lied tf that’s weird.
What is the conversation going to be when ROC NATION gets sued? Because it's coming..they've played this angle too many times
Proof or no proof, Tory shot Meg regardless of who or what it was about. All I can say is I don't know what made him shoot her but he did. If she was willing to get out and walk then he should have just her went on about her business instead of shooting at her, she must have hurt his feelings real bad in order to shoot her in the feet and I hate that he tries to blame it on the alcohol because he wasn't drunk.
Explain the muzzle flash and gun residue. Man, hush. Let's just see what happens.
Ha!! The way they all tried not to laugh at “might get postponed again” ☺️
They’re saying that Tory is young the guy is almost 30 are you people kidding me? At what age do we take accountability for our actions wtf
Seeing a mega promo mid video as an ad was nasty
Entire comment section full of people who don’t know anything but feel like they KNOW Meg is lying. Y’all are awful.
What I don’t understand is what Megan would’ve gained from this.. she must’ve had so many people in her ear telling her how to go about this situation.. now she sitting up here believing her own lie.. Meg a liar and she get everything she deserves.. like I’m intrested to know what happens to the both of them after this
Sympathy, payola, and awards. If this situation never happened she would not be popular.
@@damarcusmomm05 that’s why I’m confused she was already on the rise.. she prolly wouldn’t of been as famous but deff famous enough
Now that Rihanna and so many dropped her from Fenty and unfollowed her on Instagram hmm
I told y’all Tory was innocent!!!
TORY LANES DID NOT SHOOT THAT WOMAN. AND WHEB HE WINS IN COURT... SHE NEEDS TO PAY HIM FOR FALSE CLAIMS
She also said the police scared her
So basically they are saying she’s lying 😏
Pod just got back good out of no where
Been
JBP was part of gettin tory out of here when the news broke. to say now its not for the boys to call - after condemning what they thought happened is crazy. Looks like a back track, joe's best excuse is Mal (sampled on tory's album) is outta here. He was going the hardest. the emotional reactions to brand new events before facts. and then ignorance to them after the fact is crazy
This black woman stuff be killing me. If a man is accused of doing something whether he wins or lose his reputation is tarnished! Ish need to stop acting like Meg isn’t setting him up to be hung no matter the outcome he won’t be injured he will be hung!
How have bw been victimized for soo long? I’m really confused 🤔. Please enlighten me on the plite of a BW
I think kelsey had the gun tory security said it
And y we don't here if he is guilty and how hard meg is going to have it
Madam justice rock a LV blindfold, Tory better be careful regardless.
I’m not shutting up… he was silent while she tried to destroy him for years. Now he has the opportunity to speak and he is 🤷🏽♀️ I’m not a fan of either party but this one speaks for itself
Damn, havent listened to JBP in a min. I see Parks is still annoying AF...as usual. Whatever.
Someone pulled the trigger by mistake.
It might be cool if Joe would have Bruce Rivers on the criminal defense lawyer
The fact that y’all seen this coming lol
Joe is a smart cookie🍪
All witnesses gotta be subpoenaed
I'm appalled at the lack of Anatomy understanding or developed interest after hearing someone got shot in the foot & all that was needed was a saline wash & ace bandage. The stupidity so ingrained in black thought & understanding is astounding
this isnt black thought, most people were skeptical at her even walking on the foot, dont be a racist bro,
Instead of being racist all you could do is educate our black thoughts 💭 😬
@Naambo Taimi Amakutuwa why ASSUME my comment is racist? Why is it anyone's responsibility to educate the wilfully ignorant? Y'all be real life confused when the first & last name ain't rooted in : my mama is a hoodbooger
Y’all fired 🔥
Megan smollet
being as though this would be more of a domestic violence kind of situation, it’s not THAT unlikely that he would text her apologizing the same day. When I was physically assaulted by an ex (beat to a pulp, fractured ribs, head split open, etc) he was calling me crying and apologizing hours later. I feel like people are looking at it more from a street perspective, (i.e. if he shot a gang rival or so it would be very unlikely of him to apologize after, but you can’t apply that to this situation).. Now do I 100% believe that’s what he was apologizing for in the text messages? Not really
BULLSHIT!!!! In her Gayle King interview she said he stood over the window and shot her then she crawled in a driveway and he immediately started to apologize and "offered them 1 MILLION DOLLARS not to say anything...." Does that make sense to you??? I shoot u INTENTIONALLY and immediately after apologize and offer u millions?? C'mon y'all THINK!!!! 🤔💭🤦🏾♀️
I really don't like when they don't take a stand on something out of fear of criticism 🤦🏿♂️