IBM 5155 teardown + portable Model F repair. IBMs first Portable PC

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2023
  • Part 2 here: Hacking the MOBO :) • XT motherboard hacked ...
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  • @Epictronics1
    @Epictronics1  Год назад

    Part 2 here: Hacking the MOBO :) ruclips.net/video/F_AFgeEWewE/видео.html
    Support my work on patreon.com/Epictronics

  • @thomasives7560
    @thomasives7560 Год назад +5

    That dead bug looks like a carpet beetle larvae (baby). Aw, soooo cuuuute! Cheers!!

  • @RichMye-wx1ob
    @RichMye-wx1ob 2 месяца назад +2

    I admire your patience! From the risk of breaking the plastic I would keep my fingers away unless it was really not useable. Great video :)

  • @podnaponom
    @podnaponom Год назад +1

    I bought one 5 days ago. It's amazing, just waiting for the IBM PC DOS 2.10 to arrive from USA.

  • @partycatplays
    @partycatplays Год назад +1

    What a fiddly thing! Goodness you have a ton of patience

  • @johnackley3982
    @johnackley3982 10 месяцев назад +1

    I had a luggable Compaq similar to this. Thought to make it a sleeper, but never did.

  • @jamesmaxwell4447
    @jamesmaxwell4447 Год назад +1

    Good to see the miniscribe isn't a brick. But it maybe as useful as one if it decides to not cooperate.

  • @jordanleewalker
    @jordanleewalker Год назад +1

    I enjoy replacing the foam in Model F keyboards, but it's very difficult with the 5155 Model Fs. The plates are made out of a lighter, more flexible metal than the rigid steel assemblies of every other Model F. This means new foam does not compress as the metal isn't strong enough to do this. The amazing key feel of a Model F comes from the plates and foam pressing the switch housings tightly against the PCB.

    • @kami-kun_va
      @kami-kun_va 11 месяцев назад

      Foam-and-foil kbs suck because basically every one of them left has probably had the foam decompose. God bless membrane keyboards nowadays for portables.

  • @johnas2004
    @johnas2004 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video, I openned up my 5155 PSU to check for Rifa caps, thankfully none there (some PSUs have them on the filter board apparently). At 13:28 can clearly see that the drives are bolted into slots. You only need to remove one long bolt from the other side of the floppy drive and just loosen the other three bolts with a spanner. The floppy drive then slides back and can be removed (if there are no ISA cards in the way) - no need to remove the CRT.

    • @RichMye-wx1ob
      @RichMye-wx1ob 2 месяца назад

      I've just got my hands on one of these, before I open it and start to clean up are there common failure points apart from the tantalum caps? Great news about no RIFA though

  • @BigBadBench
    @BigBadBench Год назад +2

    Beautiful work on that keyboard restoration! Very cool that you had the same RAM expansion board that I had in my 5150. Looking forward to the next part!

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +3

      Thanks John, very lucky find indeed. I have been looking for a six-pack plus for ages, not realizing I already had one lol

  • @SnipE_mS
    @SnipE_mS Год назад +1

    Just ordered one as well! These things are super cool. Kind of on a portable kick lately :)

  • @crabdonkey6381
    @crabdonkey6381 Год назад +3

    Critters looked like meal worms. We had to buy them to feed our chameleon!

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +3

      You can have these for free : )

    • @ovalteen4404
      @ovalteen4404 Год назад +3

      Apparently they didn't find much of a meal in that keyboard though :)

  • @Rivenworld
    @Rivenworld Год назад +2

    Love your videos man, brings back some memories of working on XT's and AT'. Love this.

  • @sumplais
    @sumplais Год назад +1

    I picked up a Compaq Portable from a fellow who was also selling a Kaypro II I bought for my father. A few months later I found someone selling a 5160 for cheap...I didn't really have a need for it, but I just had to have the Compaq Portable and the 5155 running side by side.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      I'm still looking for a Compaq too. It would be an interesting comparison

  • @tony359
    @tony359 Год назад +1

    Wow that's a project! How many pieces and screws and bits do you have scattered on your desk now? :) That keyboard restoration was epic, I'm not sure I would have had the patience to do that! The capacitor soldered on the mains socket should be to avoid sparks when the mains cable is plugged in. You'll see it on modern PSUs as well. Something @TheTechknigt taught me :)

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      Thanks, The pile was huge! No less than 7 different types of screws to keep track of. But it's now hacked, repaired, and reassembled in part 2 here: ruclips.net/video/F_AFgeEWewE/видео.html

  • @sergioaguayogarciara
    @sergioaguayogarciara Год назад +6

    14:50 Yes, the drive cage is indeed a bit too narrow compared to a regular size computer. What I did with my 5155 is to sand the sides of the front plate of the drive. It doesn't have to be perfect because the sides are covered by the 5155's front panel.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +2

      Thanks, that sounds like a good hack. I guess IBM didn't check if an HDD would fit since it was only offered with single or dual FDDs.

  • @nickwallette6201
    @nickwallette6201 Год назад +1

    No notes on the video content. :-) Just loving the new set, the useful teardown / assembly documentation, and the awesome theme music that makes me feel nostalgic for something, but I can't quite put my finger on it. 👍 I guess it just feels like the early 90s.

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois Год назад +4

    I just love the 80s idea of portable. Sure, it's portable if you don't mind back pain afterwards. 🤣

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 Год назад +1

      and shoulder pain.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +2

      yeah, it's laughable with today's standard :) But imagine back then! About a third of the size and weight of an XT :)

    • @kami-kun_va
      @kami-kun_va 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's a suitcase, when was the last time you did your back in carrying a suitcase?

  • @AlejandroRodolfoMendez
    @AlejandroRodolfoMendez Год назад +1

    I always thought that lugable PCS should had wheels like in airport luggage.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +1

      Maybe it should have, that thing is insanely heavy

  • @Wombletronix
    @Wombletronix Год назад +3

    Watching the disassembly of the 5155 was a painful kind of entertainment - what a lot of frustrating design decisions. Though maybe slightly easier than glued-together modern garbage.
    Really appreciated seeing the servicing run on the keyboard though. I am working on restoring a Model F 122 and not gathered the courage to tackle the foam yet, due to it being totally disgusting. A little more courage now. Spacebar advice sure is handy too. Thanks.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +1

      Thanks, and good luck with the restoration

    • @jordanleewalker
      @jordanleewalker Год назад +1

      Hi Wombletronix, did you get round to this? I have carried out a lot of Model F foam replacements. I can give you some advice if you'd like some help.

  • @Putersdcat
    @Putersdcat Год назад +1

    trip = zip tie, also it’s strip, rhymes with tip, just the tip.

  • @zachz96
    @zachz96 Год назад +1

    13:55 At least it's not a brick.

  • @garrettnievin5812
    @garrettnievin5812 Год назад +1

    What is that pry bar you are using on the knobs and the hard disk? Looks like a handy tool.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      That is indeed a very useful tool for vintage PCs. It's a trim removal tool for cars. You can find these on ebay

  • @saleendriver
    @saleendriver Год назад +2

    Northgate OmniKey was the best keyboard ever made.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +1

      I hope to find one someday and make a comparison

  • @THEtechknight
    @THEtechknight Год назад +2

    I have never seen a Model F restoration video, so seeing this was awesome. Luckily the foam pads are available according to google, just pricey. Also, the belts are melting on my FDDs for my 5155 so Console5 now stocks those. And yeah, the drive cage opening is too narrow before the later XT/AT standards defined things. the HDD probably has a stuck stepper because it was flashing an error code in your video.
    The other problem I am having, the black coiled keyboard cable is also melting so i need to fabricate a replacement for that.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      Yeah, I'll place a drop of oil on the stepper in the next video. I noticed that the kb cord was a bit sticky but it cleaned off with some IPA

    • @THEtechknight
      @THEtechknight Год назад +2

      @@Epictronics1 Yeah you can clean that cable off, but it'll keep degrading and you get the same result until it eventually cracks and falls apart. We need to find a suitable replacement for that cable.

  • @Morinaka25
    @Morinaka25 Год назад +1

    26:55 I've only ever seen this tool used for punching holes in leather, so that might explain why it doesn't do well with neoprene.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      I think you're right. This tool was brand new when I used it on my first Model F restoration and it didn't work well. The neoprene is probably too soft for the tool

  • @IkarusKommt
    @IkarusKommt Год назад +2

    What a weird keyboard layout, with European-style keys, diacritics but without national letters. I wonder where it was bought.
    It seems they took some Scandinavian keyboard and replaced the ÄÖÅ with US keycaps from a different batch of plastic. Very interesting.

  • @dzaga7123
    @dzaga7123 Год назад +3

    Just wonder how the keyboard was initially assembled! Did the use dental floss too? :)

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      haha, dude, there is actually a VHS video on YT showing how it was done: ruclips.net/video/mEN6Rry4ekk/видео.html

  • @sneugler
    @sneugler Год назад +1

    Looking forward to seeing the motherboard ram modification, was planning on doing the same with mine. What's the model of that hercules card? Rare to see one with the internal composite pin header designed for a 5155.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      Thanks. Yeah, that Hercules turned out to be an oddball. It's a Hercules Color Card GB200. More on this in the next video

    • @douro20
      @douro20 Год назад +1

      I'd like to do that to my 5150 but I'm afraid of ruining my original 5-slot mainboard.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад

      @@douro20 I think an AST six-pack plus or similar is the way to go with the 5150

    • @douro20
      @douro20 Год назад

      @@Epictronics1 I have a 640k memory card. I want to eventually eliminate it but I want to get another mainboard first.

    • @sneugler
      @sneugler Год назад +1

      @@Epictronics1 Thanks for the model number, overall is the card an improvement compared to the factory IBM CGA? I've been looking for ways to get rid of the notorious snow effect, but the ATI Wonder cards are ludicrously expensive

  • @succuvamp_anna
    @succuvamp_anna Год назад +2

    Please consider getting a nut driver lol
    Better than using a Flathead Screwdriver.
    Edit, oh you do have one, just not the right sizes?

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +4

      Yeah, I have all the common nut drivers. But this PC was nuts ;) it had 7 different screw types and some I didn't have the proper tool for

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 Год назад +1

      Or instead of a nut driver, just a socket set with all the sizes.

  • @KrissyD-px9gj
    @KrissyD-px9gj Месяц назад +1

    The ur-lenovo

  • @Raul_Gajadhar
    @Raul_Gajadhar Год назад +2

    You keep grabbing the Dental Floss... I am gonna grab a beer. That's a heck of a complex design for a kb.

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1  Год назад +2

      haha, well, I had a beer after I was done with the dental floss. Complex and a bit tricky to restore but that is a hell of a kb when it's restored and clean

    • @Raul_Gajadhar
      @Raul_Gajadhar Год назад +2

      @@Epictronics1 I can't wait to see! Cheers man.